November 25, 2021 • 28 mins
On this "Best of Sean Hannity" Thanksgiving, hear the quick wit and music of Joe Pags and Carol Roth. Plus, hear from the creator of "The Chosen", Dallas Jenkins.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My friend Joe Paggs is at it again as a
special tribute song to those thirteen Rhinos that voted for
the one point two trillion dollars infrastructure. And by the way,
if they didn't vote for it, it wouldn't have passed.
Great job these thirteen Republicans anyway, our friend Joe Paggs
honors them with this song. Each time we vote for them,
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we believe what they say. It's time to take a stand.
It's our future at play. They had their shot to
stop fighting's mass. Why did those thirteen rhinos say yes
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one day they say, then sing with just what we
want and now it's just the same, had their shot
and squad each time, I'm hopful, eye musket fast. Why
did those thirteen rhinos say yes, we send the nap
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believing what they do. They vote with the left to us,
they say, screw you. We need to call them out.
We should take their seats back. Showed what they're all about.
They might be smoking crack. You know we can't give
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them a free masks. Why did those thirteen rhinos kiss
joes as they had one job not to even bob
stand firm against this chuck, don't side with the mob.
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Well here we are, and this we know. These reps
are turned coats. Didn't know they go this load voter
in misspending load, Betsy Blowsy. They tried to in press
why Davy's thirteen Rhinos cave? And say yes, Why Davy's
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thirteen Rhinos cave? And say yes, why Davy's thirteen Rhinos cave?
And say yes anyway, buddy, Joe PAGs is with us now.
I mean, you know, all these years I know you.
I never knew you had this talent. Carol Roth is
with us as well. She has her podcast, The Roth
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Effect and the author of the War on Small Business.
You know, you learned something like you think you know somebody,
your friends with somebody, and then you find out they
have these incredible gifts And I'm like, well, why need
you tell me beforehand? I could have I would have
put in request like for the last twenty years. Well,
I didn't know that I should have said anything, because,
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first of all, I don't think it much of a singer.
But I have a really good time exposing these idiots
when there's a big news story and I get to
have some fun with it, and I got a little
bit of musical talent. I guess just a tiny bit shun. Yeah,
well you have amazing talent actually, and you, like me,
you probably have two much time on your hands. I
am a total complete loser, and I admit it. You
know it, really, I will tell you this Between Mitch McConnell.
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You know, at the last minute, two straight months, carol
Ian Republicans said no, they're not going to help Biden
on the debt ceiling, the Democrats on the debt ceiling,
and they could have stopped everything right there dead in
its tracks. But at the last minute they changed their mind.
The same thing with the thirteen Republicans. Why would you
assist Joe Biden in giving him what is perceived as
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a win when he did not have the votes in
his own party to pass this. We can't one point
two trillion, never mind the additional three point five trillion
they're trying to get still. Yeah, I mean stuff like
this undermines when people say that conservatives and the GOP
are fiscally conservative. And then you have thirteen Rhinos, as
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Joe so brilliantly saying about, came out and not only
did something that would make no sense absence of who
was in charge. But then given the state of inflation,
and given the fact that they didn't have the votes,
there's absolutely no reason that I can think of why
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this made sense. I mean, the bills, not actually for infrastructure.
We're in a scenario where we have runaway spending, runaway inflation.
These people need their head examined. It's really unbelievable. All right,
I've got to ask you both. I did not think
I would gets as interested as I got and am
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in the case involving Kyle Rittenhouse. I can't believe you
know that. Well, I should predict it. The rush to judgment,
no due process, no presumption of innocence. That crowd always exists.
But it included the president, and included the media mob,
people in Hollywood, all the predictable people, Joe PAGs And
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as I watched this trial unfold, you know, and I
see the video, and I listened to the eyewitness testimony,
and then I listened to the star witness of the
prosecution say yeah, I pointed the loaded gun at Kyle
Rittenhouse before he shot me. The whole thing seems to
just fallen apart. Yet again, I couldn't agree more. You know,
we went into this, months and months now of hearing
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the left media tell us what this guy did wrong.
He was a mega guy, he was a white supremacist.
He was out there to kill some protesters. Joe Scarborough,
I literally said, the guy brought an Air fifteen, which
is a huge gun, across the border to start shooting protesters.
None of that even happened. First of all, an air
fifteen is of a huge guy. As I watched this,
sean I'm looking at an indictment of the Second Amendment.
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I'm looking at an indictment of rifles, which is strange.
The prosecutor seemed to allege that Kyle Rittenhouse should have
had a handgun for some reason, because I guess that's
less deadly, and tried to say that protecting property while
holding a gun means you're using lethal force. What you
just alluded to? All these lefties in the media, all
of these lies about him, really remind you of Nicholas Sandman.
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There was a lie out here about Kyle Rittenhouse. There
was a lie about what he did that night. Here's
a kid putting out fires, giving medical aid to people
who were injured by rioters, and then defended himself. You
could see it absolutely and exclusively in those videos that
he was defending himself. And still you've got people at
t m A an MSNBC alleging he's a white supremacist.
And now the judge somehow is a racist. You've got
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white prosecutors and a white defendant. Somehow the judge is
a racist because he's interjecting and telling that this assistant
district attorney that he's doing it wrong. This is a
microcosm of exactly what's wrong with the left media in
this country. Thank god we're getting the true story. You know,
let me play for example, how bad Carol will let
you respond to this first, how bad and abusively corrupt
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and biased the mob in the media has been in
this case. Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse, he murdered two people.
By the way, Rittenhouse is basically what you would have
had in a school shooter. He's a seventeen year old kid.
He shouldn't have had a gun. He crossed eight lines
to supposedly protect property. No, he was going out to
shoot people. Kyle Rittenhouse, the seventeen year old vigilante Kyle Rittenhouse,
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and vigilante Kyle Rittenhouse, the armed teenage vigilante. The seventeen
year old vigilante arguably a domestic terrorists, picked up a rifle,
drove to a different state to shoot people. Kyle Rittenhouse,
a guy who's deeply racist, went with weapons to a
Black Lives Matter protest looking to get in trouble. He did.
He murdered a couple of people. Rittenhouse the seventeen year
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old kid just running around shooting and killing protesters. S
seventeen year old who was radicalized by trumps Um took
his AR fifteenth to Kenosha and became a killer. Hey
White Trump supporting MAGA loving Blue Lives Matter social media
partisan seventeen years old picks up a gun, drives from
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one state to another with the intent to shoot people.
A seventeen year old boy who drove across state lines
with an AAR fifteen and started shooting people up, including
a guy with a skateboard. Kyle Rittenhouse, who has killed
protesters unarmed protesters. Rittenhouse a seventeen year old that went
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with a weapon into the middle of protests and then
provoke people and then shot and killed him. Kyle Rittenhouse
is the enemy. A boy from out of state drives
up to the state with an AAR fifteen around his neck,
and he kills a couple of people, shooting wildly, running around,
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acting like Ridica drove across state lines armed with a
rifle to go and shoot people. What a dark a
dystopian scene where a seventeen year old boy is carrying
around a rifle, running around and gunning down protesters. They
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have a carol that that is your fair and balanced
and objective, non opinionated, non biased media. Yeah, because I
mean it really hits home hearing it one after another,
and if you really look at what stands out there,
so much of it is not about an individual. It's
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about a narrative that Kyle Rittenhouse isn't really the one
on trial. It's anybody who owns a gun, anybody who
supports Maga, anybody who supports Trump, anybody who doesn't think
like the media does. That is really what's on trial.
What I will say about it is that it is
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so blatant that a lot of people are starting to
wake up. Bill Ackman, who is a well known hedge
fund manager who I think leans a little bit lefty,
went on a rand on Twitter yesterday saying how he
had watched the testimony and cross examination and said, quote,
we came away believing that Kyle is telling the truth
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and that he acted in self defense. Went on this
whole tweet stream about talking about him being a civic
minded patriot and whatnot. Then posts a little bit later,
just got a call from the media asking if my
Twitter account was hacked. That is, the reporter couldn't conceive
of the idea that I could believe Kyle's innocent because
I am not a right winger. I think that pretty
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much sums up what is going on here. Look, I
know I have too much experience in this that you
just really can't interpret where a jury is going to
go and how they're seeing it differently, maybe in the room.
But my thought is he gets acquitted pretty much everything.
Maybe the gun charge sticks, but that's a mistimetor. I
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don't even think that. I don't even think he's going
to get in a lot of trouble for that. In
terms of the shooting of three people, I thought it
was a pretty compelling case that was made with eyewitness testimony,
video testimony, and the star witness of the prosecution testimony
that this was self defense. Joe PAGs is a pleasant
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No should should Kyle in retrospect should people be putting
themselves in a position with maybe they have the greatest
of intentions and they want to help. Maybe looking back,
maybe you want to stay the hell away from areas
we have problems like this and that means good people,
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would you know, don't go to help other innocent people
that are being hurt like stores that are being looted
and arson that's taken place, etc. Well, I think it's
a great point for first and foremost, we're not talking
about the thing that he even started this entire event
that night, the riots over a guy who had a
knife fighting police, who was where he shouldn't have been
in Jacob Blake being shot by police as he was
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reaching into his car. We're not talking about the riots
that were burning down a city they were attempting to Minneapolis, Kenosha. Minneapolis,
you had hundreds of minority owned businesses burned to the ground,
and you were going to see that in Kenosha as well,
just because people wanted to riot with a very small
amount of information about Jacob Blake in that situation. I'll
bet Kyle in retrospectives you said Sean would go back
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and rethink the events of that night, because again there
were riots happening, people burning things down, and being a
good Samaritan ends up being no good deed goes unpunished.
But what he did that night and how he did
it that night was so misrepresented we got the real
facts here. I think you're right the gun charge, maybe
sticks self defense is evident when the star witness for
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the state said I pointed my gun at the guy
before he shot me, and then there's video and photographic
evidence of that as well. What makes me sick is
that entire montage you just ran is just a very
small amount of the misinformation since since August twenty fifth
of last year that's been out there there. I will
bet you five to six to seven out of ten
Americans think this guy went there and was really nearly
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shooting anybody he saw. And just one note if I can,
about the AR fifteen that they keep on saying air fifteen.
They're not saying a rifle. AR fifteen. Air means army light.
It doesn't mean assault rifle. Yeah. By the way, it's
just it's just dumb. They're representing it like it's a bazooka.
It doesn't make any sense. Yeah, well, you know, of course,
they don't even know what the difference is. You'd like,
For example, I own a R fifteens, but they're modified
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in ways that are so ridiculous to make them compliant
with New York laws. Joe, you'd love this. It's all
about cosmetics. It is zero to do with with the
weapon itself. Nothing, So I guess it makes them feel good.
They don't know a darn thing about about a fire
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un right, they're changing the way it looks, although a
much more powerful weapon can look I guess more noculous.
The AR fifteen is a war style machine. Nobody's going
to war with an AR fifteen. It doesn't make any sense.
And the bullets that he had that night, we're two
two threes, which are basically a twenty two caliber bullet.
I don't understand why they're trying to vilify it. Sean
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again and Carol, I think this is an attack on
the Second Amendment, an attack on so called assault rifles,
and they're trying to do something bigger than Kyle Rittenhouse
out of this. That's my opinion. All right, I gotta
let you both go. Thank you, Joe, PAGs. We appreciate it.
We always appreciate your sharing your great music with us. Carol,
thank you, good to have you back. Eight hundred and
nine four one seawn. If you want to be a
part of the program, quick break right back. So The
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Chosen is like the hottest series on television and you know,
the most streamed actually in the entire country right now.
And if you haven't found it, especially if you believe
in faith and God and the things that really matter
in life, even more than politics, way more. Everybody's flocking
to it. The amazing thing is Hollywood has always played
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to the lowest common denominator. They've always played to violence
and sex and you know, just just or just mindless entertainment.
And whenever a good product comes out, it is amazing
how people find it. They share it with their friends
and they flock to it and anyway, so it has
become a big hit. Now for the second time now
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they have coming out with Christmas with The Chosen, and
it's about a well, let me just play the trailer.
Do you know what Luke is? I didn't tell him
everything day keeping He's coming. It's time. I soul magnifies
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the world, and my spirit rejoices and caught my Savior.
And remember what your messenger said the first thing, don't
faith that jeezesous Christ. People must know fo here's the
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amazing thing. The TV show that Chosen is now it's
a new streaming TV drama. I just found out about
it recently. I'm just starting to watch it and it
is amazing. And I don't say that about many things,
especially when it comes to entertainment. Um, it touches you
in ways you won't even imagine. And get this, It's
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now viewed over three hundred and seventy four million times worldwide.
That's how viral this has become. Now you have the
Chosen for Christmas or Christmas with the Chosen to be
more official. It is now setting Fathom event records in
the first twelve hours. And anyway, Dallas Jenkins is the
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creator of all of this. He's a genius and joins
us to tell us about it. How are you, sir?
So glad to be here? Touch On, thanks so much
for having me. Tell me? Where'd you get this skill
set that you have that just you have this ability
to break through where so many do not, and you
go a whole different path. You don't follow the crowd,
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and it seems to be paying off big time for you. Well,
I think that applies to every part of this show.
So the content itself is unique in the fact that
I happen to be a strong believer. I love the Bible.
I believe it's God's words and the story of Jesus
to of course change my life, and I'm passionate about it.
And yet when it comes to the show and I'm
capturing the stories of Jesus, I'm trying to do it
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in a way that I haven't seen before, which is
really explore the humanity of Jesus and the disciples and
even his enemies. The authenticity of the stories is huge,
and I think you would probably agree with this. When
you watch the show, we really try to put you there.
It feels like you're in the first century and you
can identify with their problems and identify with their questions,
and then hopefully ultimately identify with the solution to those
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questions and problems. When it comes to the release of
the show, this is where we've just done it completely
outside the system. The show is completely free. You can
watch it and you can choose to pay for it
if you want. We are on our own app. We
are not on a popular streaming platform or on a
broadcast network. We've done this completely outside the system. We're
completely crowdfunded. We do it ourselves, and that's allowed us
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to keep control of the content and then also keep
control of how people watch it. Explain that to most people,
because most people think streaming, they think about Netflix and
Hulu and Prime Video and that and again. Three hundred
and seventy four million times, it's now been viewed worldwide.
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How how do people find it? Because when it comes
to technology, I'm probably the biggest idiot you've ever talked to. UM,
I might compete with you on that. I'm actually not
a big tech guy myself. But we've actually made this
really easy. So you just go on your phone, you
look up the chosen and we're easy to find. It's
We're our own app. Now you might be thinking, I
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don't want to watch a Jesus show on my phone. Well,
we've made it so that you can connect it directly,
free and easy to your streaming platform. So I could
go to your house and if you've got a Roku
or Apple TV or Firestick, don't You don't even need
a subscription. You don't need your email address or anything.
It casts directly from your phone to this streaming device.
It's also on a website, the Chosen dot tv www
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dot to Chosen dot tv. Oh, you can just look
it up and you find it. But that's where people
can actually watch the episodes again, free and easy. You
don't even have to sign up for anything. We've just
tried to make this as accessible as possible. I believe
the gospel is free, so we made the show free
and people can pay for it if they want, and
because they're so passionate about it, they are paying for it.
Some people are people who can't afford it, don't have to,
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but those who are have generated over one hundred million
dollars in gross revenue this year alone, just so that
we can continue to do more episodes in seasons. I mean,
it's just an incredible story. And you don't hear about
this ever in media, movies, entertainment. It just doesn't happen
like this. Tell us specifically, why you went with a
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second year Christmas with the Chosen, what that means and
what people can expect. Yeah, thank you for asking that. Yeah,
we're in between seasons two and three right now, so
we just released season two a couple of months ago,
I'm writing season three with my co writers. Well, the
fans are so rabid and they're so eager for more,
and we thought, you know what, in between these seasons,
wouldn't it be fun to do a brand new episode
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and tell the story of the birth of Christ from
the perspective of Joseph and really explore this in a
way that hasn't been done before. There's one image in
the episode that I think stands out to me as
we were making it was it shows Joseph scooping up
a pile of manure in the stable to make room
for Mary to give birth. That image alone really moved me.
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That thought of the birth of the Christ job coming
in the midst of you just would never expect the
Messiah to come to Earth in this way and in
this setting, and so that just really was passionate took
for me. I really wanted to capture that in a
way that hadn't been done before. And then we've got
these extraordinary musicians. So you got four King in Country
and Phil Wickham and Maverick City Music and some of
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these great musicians who did Christmas songs on the set
of the chosen. So we gathered a dozen of those artists,
we gathered the brand new episode, and we're releasing in
theaters in December. But it just felt like a great
opportunity for this Christmas season to get people out to
theaters again, even though Hollywood had been really concerned that
people wouldn't come to theaters unless it was a big
Marvel movie or a horror film. Are like, well, let's
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maybe see if we can pull this off. And so
it's been shattering records and it's been really funny shows
how hungry people are for the right content. It's amazing.
That's exactly the description, hungry for content and good content.
And now you're in one hundred and ninety plus countries.
You know, There's two things that I do like to
do when I'm not talking politics. Is my faith is
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very important to me. I'm a non denominational Christian. And
by the way, I'm one of the Christians that needs
the saving kind of Christian. I'm not the perfect Christian person.
And I say that because I think Christians are often misunderstood.
You know, for example, in pop culture, it seems that
if there's a prominent Christian and they fall from grace
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or have some public scandal of some kind. You watch
this group of people, you know, almost gleeful about it.
But that's not my understanding of Christianity. And I did
go to Catholic schools for twelve years of my life.
My understanding is to be a Christian. It's simple. Is
that you acknowledge you have failed. You have a desire
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to change your heart. The Latin for repentance is to
change one's heart, and that you seek redemption through Jesus
Christ and reconciliation with God the Father. I think Christians
are very misunderstood. Am I wrong? You are not wrong?
And I think that's a great way to put it.
You know, when you said I'm not a perfect Christian,
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no one is. I like to say I'm a bad Christian,
which is why I'm a Christian. The fact that we
need the Savior is not something that we learn early
on in life and then we forget about it. It's
a daily thing. It's a daily reminder. And that's actually
what the Chosen I believe does for people. Is Jesus
came to Earth to remind us of that, and he
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had both bad news and good news. The bad news
was You're never going to get this right. You're never
going to be perfect, even even those of you, you
religious leaders. He had the most to say to them,
you religious leaders who think that you've got it together,
because as you are religious, you're just as bad, if
not worse than others, because you're hypocrites. So here's the
good news. Though, I am perfect, and I will make
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you a surrendered and broken person. And if you surrender
your life to me, you can have access to salvation
that you wouldn't if you don't. And all you have
to do is just acknowledge that. And so the show
is showing you that we were putting you, We're putting
Jesus into this situation where the people were trying so
hard to be good, and He's like, don't worry about that.
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You'll do that as a result of my salvation. But
that's not what's going to get you there. And the
show is a great reminder of that. I believe, and
it's where I'm my heart is. And that's what I
think people are resonating with, is Okay, these people in
first century that we've seen in stained glass windows and
as statues there, you know, we've called them saints they
were actually just like us. And he actually picked people
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who you wouldn't have otherwise. He picked twelve guys that
were fishermen. And I don't know, I'm just assuming because
I like to watch Deadliest Catch. I don't know if
you ever watched that. It's one of my favorite shows.
And fishermen, I imagine back in Jesus's time, probably cursed,
probably noticed pretty women. And probably we're not perfect either
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that you know, kind of like when I worked in construction,
we were construction guys. And I think the biggest, untold
part of Christianity is that, you know, here we have
And I love to debate atheists over this, not agnostics,
atheists and people, and I'll ask them, so you really
believe that all of these this energy somehow collided and
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it formed a big bang that created universes within universes
within universes and the stars and gravity and the sun
and the moon and the planets and mankind and the
animal kingdom, et cetera, et cetera, and that just happened.
Because I don't believe that that would be a far
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bigger miracle than the idea that there is something much
more powerful and greater than us that is a creator
and our job. I think part of the mystery of
life is finding that missing part and seeking finding, you know,
knocking and the door getting open. And I think that
a lot of people don't even see the majestic, the majesty,
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if you will, of creation. Well, that's the beauty of
the story, is that there is, as you said, the
majesty and beauty and epic nous of creation. And yet
the creator of the universe was one of us. He
actually came to earth, and that's what the Christmas was.
The Chosen is about this story. He came to Earth
in a barn and to a scared teenager, and all
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of that piece of it, and then the Chosen in general,
showing that Jesus came among a time of oppression, and
you mentioned earlier, you know he called fisherman. He also
actually called a tax collector, which not only back then
was rare and he wasted, as you know, you and
I probably hate tax collectors as much as anybody. To
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Jesus actually called and said I want to make you
one of mine. And that whole piece of it, the
fact that he reached down and reached to us, that
we don't actually have to fight to get to him.
Is the most extraordinary event in human history. Well, I
wish you all the best with this. It's now when
does it start. It's run in theaters December first. Yeah,
so the show is out now, of course, but the
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theatrical piece is December first through the Temphs in theaters.
He just look it up online. You look up The
Chosen in theaters, you'll find it. And that we've sat
I mean we've literally shattered records, doubled the record for
pre sales that we sold out in two days, so
they added eight more days in theaters and are really
kind of upsetting the Apple Kurt for what people are expecting.
So make sure you go get the tickets now. I'm
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not saying that as a salesman. I'm saying because they
are literally selling out as we speak. It's pretty amazing.
It's a great success story, and it also shows that
when you produce quality, a quality product like you have
produced with The Chosen, that people will flock to it.
I mean, it's it's an amazing success story and it's
also enlightening, and I think it's it's the kind of
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movie that touches people's souls. And there's not enough of
those movies that do that. I'm all for entertaining movies,
but I also like movies that make me think, touch
my soul, move me to even wanting to be a
better person. It's really nice to talk to you, Dallas Jenkins.
We'll put a link on Hannity dot com and you
want to find out. It opens in theaters on December first.
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They've added eight days. If you want to be a
part of this Fathom event, you can do it. And
thank you, sir, continued success, Thanks for being with us,
Thanks so much, appreciate it.
My friend Joe Paggs is at it again as a
special tribute song to those thirteen Rhinos that voted for
the one point two trillion dollars infrastructure. And by the way,
if they didn't vote for it, it wouldn't have passed.
Great job these thirteen Republicans anyway, our friend Joe Paggs
honors them with this song. Each time we vote for them,
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we believe what they say. It's time to take a stand.
It's our future at play. They had their shot to
stop fighting's mass. Why did those thirteen rhinos say yes
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one day they say, then sing with just what we
want and now it's just the same, had their shot
and squad each time, I'm hopful, eye musket fast. Why
did those thirteen rhinos say yes, we send the nap
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believing what they do. They vote with the left to us,
they say, screw you. We need to call them out.
We should take their seats back. Showed what they're all about.
They might be smoking crack. You know we can't give
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them a free masks. Why did those thirteen rhinos kiss
joes as they had one job not to even bob
stand firm against this chuck, don't side with the mob.
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Well here we are, and this we know. These reps
are turned coats. Didn't know they go this load voter
in misspending load, Betsy Blowsy. They tried to in press
why Davy's thirteen Rhinos cave? And say yes, Why Davy's
(02:25):
thirteen Rhinos cave? And say yes, why Davy's thirteen Rhinos cave?
And say yes anyway, buddy, Joe PAGs is with us now.
I mean, you know, all these years I know you.
I never knew you had this talent. Carol Roth is
with us as well. She has her podcast, The Roth
(02:48):
Effect and the author of the War on Small Business.
You know, you learned something like you think you know somebody,
your friends with somebody, and then you find out they
have these incredible gifts And I'm like, well, why need
you tell me beforehand? I could have I would have
put in request like for the last twenty years. Well,
I didn't know that I should have said anything, because,
(03:09):
first of all, I don't think it much of a singer.
But I have a really good time exposing these idiots
when there's a big news story and I get to
have some fun with it, and I got a little
bit of musical talent. I guess just a tiny bit shun. Yeah,
well you have amazing talent actually, and you, like me,
you probably have two much time on your hands. I
am a total complete loser, and I admit it. You
know it, really, I will tell you this Between Mitch McConnell.
(03:32):
You know, at the last minute, two straight months, carol
Ian Republicans said no, they're not going to help Biden
on the debt ceiling, the Democrats on the debt ceiling,
and they could have stopped everything right there dead in
its tracks. But at the last minute they changed their mind.
The same thing with the thirteen Republicans. Why would you
assist Joe Biden in giving him what is perceived as
(03:54):
a win when he did not have the votes in
his own party to pass this. We can't one point
two trillion, never mind the additional three point five trillion
they're trying to get still. Yeah, I mean stuff like
this undermines when people say that conservatives and the GOP
are fiscally conservative. And then you have thirteen Rhinos, as
(04:18):
Joe so brilliantly saying about, came out and not only
did something that would make no sense absence of who
was in charge. But then given the state of inflation,
and given the fact that they didn't have the votes,
there's absolutely no reason that I can think of why
(04:38):
this made sense. I mean, the bills, not actually for infrastructure.
We're in a scenario where we have runaway spending, runaway inflation.
These people need their head examined. It's really unbelievable. All right,
I've got to ask you both. I did not think
I would gets as interested as I got and am
(04:59):
in the case involving Kyle Rittenhouse. I can't believe you
know that. Well, I should predict it. The rush to judgment,
no due process, no presumption of innocence. That crowd always exists.
But it included the president, and included the media mob,
people in Hollywood, all the predictable people, Joe PAGs And
(05:21):
as I watched this trial unfold, you know, and I
see the video, and I listened to the eyewitness testimony,
and then I listened to the star witness of the
prosecution say yeah, I pointed the loaded gun at Kyle
Rittenhouse before he shot me. The whole thing seems to
just fallen apart. Yet again, I couldn't agree more. You know,
we went into this, months and months now of hearing
(05:42):
the left media tell us what this guy did wrong.
He was a mega guy, he was a white supremacist.
He was out there to kill some protesters. Joe Scarborough,
I literally said, the guy brought an Air fifteen, which
is a huge gun, across the border to start shooting protesters.
None of that even happened. First of all, an air
fifteen is of a huge guy. As I watched this,
sean I'm looking at an indictment of the Second Amendment.
(06:04):
I'm looking at an indictment of rifles, which is strange.
The prosecutor seemed to allege that Kyle Rittenhouse should have
had a handgun for some reason, because I guess that's
less deadly, and tried to say that protecting property while
holding a gun means you're using lethal force. What you
just alluded to? All these lefties in the media, all
of these lies about him, really remind you of Nicholas Sandman.
(06:27):
There was a lie out here about Kyle Rittenhouse. There
was a lie about what he did that night. Here's
a kid putting out fires, giving medical aid to people
who were injured by rioters, and then defended himself. You
could see it absolutely and exclusively in those videos that
he was defending himself. And still you've got people at
t m A an MSNBC alleging he's a white supremacist.
And now the judge somehow is a racist. You've got
(06:49):
white prosecutors and a white defendant. Somehow the judge is
a racist because he's interjecting and telling that this assistant
district attorney that he's doing it wrong. This is a
microcosm of exactly what's wrong with the left media in
this country. Thank god we're getting the true story. You know,
let me play for example, how bad Carol will let
you respond to this first, how bad and abusively corrupt
(07:12):
and biased the mob in the media has been in
this case. Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse, he murdered two people.
By the way, Rittenhouse is basically what you would have
had in a school shooter. He's a seventeen year old kid.
He shouldn't have had a gun. He crossed eight lines
to supposedly protect property. No, he was going out to
shoot people. Kyle Rittenhouse, the seventeen year old vigilante Kyle Rittenhouse,
(07:33):
and vigilante Kyle Rittenhouse, the armed teenage vigilante. The seventeen
year old vigilante arguably a domestic terrorists, picked up a rifle,
drove to a different state to shoot people. Kyle Rittenhouse,
a guy who's deeply racist, went with weapons to a
Black Lives Matter protest looking to get in trouble. He did.
He murdered a couple of people. Rittenhouse the seventeen year
(07:55):
old kid just running around shooting and killing protesters. S
seventeen year old who was radicalized by trumps Um took
his AR fifteenth to Kenosha and became a killer. Hey
White Trump supporting MAGA loving Blue Lives Matter social media
partisan seventeen years old picks up a gun, drives from
(08:18):
one state to another with the intent to shoot people.
A seventeen year old boy who drove across state lines
with an AAR fifteen and started shooting people up, including
a guy with a skateboard. Kyle Rittenhouse, who has killed
protesters unarmed protesters. Rittenhouse a seventeen year old that went
(08:39):
with a weapon into the middle of protests and then
provoke people and then shot and killed him. Kyle Rittenhouse
is the enemy. A boy from out of state drives
up to the state with an AAR fifteen around his neck,
and he kills a couple of people, shooting wildly, running around,
(09:00):
acting like Ridica drove across state lines armed with a
rifle to go and shoot people. What a dark a
dystopian scene where a seventeen year old boy is carrying
around a rifle, running around and gunning down protesters. They
(09:23):
have a carol that that is your fair and balanced
and objective, non opinionated, non biased media. Yeah, because I
mean it really hits home hearing it one after another,
and if you really look at what stands out there,
so much of it is not about an individual. It's
(09:43):
about a narrative that Kyle Rittenhouse isn't really the one
on trial. It's anybody who owns a gun, anybody who
supports Maga, anybody who supports Trump, anybody who doesn't think
like the media does. That is really what's on trial.
What I will say about it is that it is
(10:04):
so blatant that a lot of people are starting to
wake up. Bill Ackman, who is a well known hedge
fund manager who I think leans a little bit lefty,
went on a rand on Twitter yesterday saying how he
had watched the testimony and cross examination and said, quote,
we came away believing that Kyle is telling the truth
(10:25):
and that he acted in self defense. Went on this
whole tweet stream about talking about him being a civic
minded patriot and whatnot. Then posts a little bit later,
just got a call from the media asking if my
Twitter account was hacked. That is, the reporter couldn't conceive
of the idea that I could believe Kyle's innocent because
I am not a right winger. I think that pretty
(10:47):
much sums up what is going on here. Look, I
know I have too much experience in this that you
just really can't interpret where a jury is going to
go and how they're seeing it differently, maybe in the room.
But my thought is he gets acquitted pretty much everything.
Maybe the gun charge sticks, but that's a mistimetor. I
(11:07):
don't even think that. I don't even think he's going
to get in a lot of trouble for that. In
terms of the shooting of three people, I thought it
was a pretty compelling case that was made with eyewitness testimony,
video testimony, and the star witness of the prosecution testimony
that this was self defense. Joe PAGs is a pleasant
(11:27):
No should should Kyle in retrospect should people be putting
themselves in a position with maybe they have the greatest
of intentions and they want to help. Maybe looking back,
maybe you want to stay the hell away from areas
we have problems like this and that means good people,
(11:48):
would you know, don't go to help other innocent people
that are being hurt like stores that are being looted
and arson that's taken place, etc. Well, I think it's
a great point for first and foremost, we're not talking
about the thing that he even started this entire event
that night, the riots over a guy who had a
knife fighting police, who was where he shouldn't have been
in Jacob Blake being shot by police as he was
(12:09):
reaching into his car. We're not talking about the riots
that were burning down a city they were attempting to Minneapolis, Kenosha. Minneapolis,
you had hundreds of minority owned businesses burned to the ground,
and you were going to see that in Kenosha as well,
just because people wanted to riot with a very small
amount of information about Jacob Blake in that situation. I'll
bet Kyle in retrospectives you said Sean would go back
(12:31):
and rethink the events of that night, because again there
were riots happening, people burning things down, and being a
good Samaritan ends up being no good deed goes unpunished.
But what he did that night and how he did
it that night was so misrepresented we got the real
facts here. I think you're right the gun charge, maybe
sticks self defense is evident when the star witness for
(12:52):
the state said I pointed my gun at the guy
before he shot me, and then there's video and photographic
evidence of that as well. What makes me sick is
that entire montage you just ran is just a very
small amount of the misinformation since since August twenty fifth
of last year that's been out there there. I will
bet you five to six to seven out of ten
Americans think this guy went there and was really nearly
(13:14):
shooting anybody he saw. And just one note if I can,
about the AR fifteen that they keep on saying air fifteen.
They're not saying a rifle. AR fifteen. Air means army light.
It doesn't mean assault rifle. Yeah. By the way, it's
just it's just dumb. They're representing it like it's a bazooka.
It doesn't make any sense. Yeah, well, you know, of course,
they don't even know what the difference is. You'd like,
For example, I own a R fifteens, but they're modified
(13:38):
in ways that are so ridiculous to make them compliant
with New York laws. Joe, you'd love this. It's all
about cosmetics. It is zero to do with with the
weapon itself. Nothing, So I guess it makes them feel good.
They don't know a darn thing about about a fire
(13:58):
un right, they're changing the way it looks, although a
much more powerful weapon can look I guess more noculous.
The AR fifteen is a war style machine. Nobody's going
to war with an AR fifteen. It doesn't make any sense.
And the bullets that he had that night, we're two
two threes, which are basically a twenty two caliber bullet.
I don't understand why they're trying to vilify it. Sean
(14:19):
again and Carol, I think this is an attack on
the Second Amendment, an attack on so called assault rifles,
and they're trying to do something bigger than Kyle Rittenhouse
out of this. That's my opinion. All right, I gotta
let you both go. Thank you, Joe, PAGs. We appreciate it.
We always appreciate your sharing your great music with us. Carol,
thank you, good to have you back. Eight hundred and
nine four one seawn. If you want to be a
part of the program, quick break right back. So The
(14:42):
Chosen is like the hottest series on television and you know,
the most streamed actually in the entire country right now.
And if you haven't found it, especially if you believe
in faith and God and the things that really matter
in life, even more than politics, way more. Everybody's flocking
to it. The amazing thing is Hollywood has always played
(15:06):
to the lowest common denominator. They've always played to violence
and sex and you know, just just or just mindless entertainment.
And whenever a good product comes out, it is amazing
how people find it. They share it with their friends
and they flock to it and anyway, so it has
become a big hit. Now for the second time now
(15:29):
they have coming out with Christmas with The Chosen, and
it's about a well, let me just play the trailer.
Do you know what Luke is? I didn't tell him
everything day keeping He's coming. It's time. I soul magnifies
(16:14):
the world, and my spirit rejoices and caught my Savior.
And remember what your messenger said the first thing, don't
faith that jeezesous Christ. People must know fo here's the
(16:37):
amazing thing. The TV show that Chosen is now it's
a new streaming TV drama. I just found out about
it recently. I'm just starting to watch it and it
is amazing. And I don't say that about many things,
especially when it comes to entertainment. Um, it touches you
in ways you won't even imagine. And get this, It's
(16:59):
now viewed over three hundred and seventy four million times worldwide.
That's how viral this has become. Now you have the
Chosen for Christmas or Christmas with the Chosen to be
more official. It is now setting Fathom event records in
the first twelve hours. And anyway, Dallas Jenkins is the
(17:20):
creator of all of this. He's a genius and joins
us to tell us about it. How are you, sir?
So glad to be here? Touch On, thanks so much
for having me. Tell me? Where'd you get this skill
set that you have that just you have this ability
to break through where so many do not, and you
go a whole different path. You don't follow the crowd,
(17:41):
and it seems to be paying off big time for you. Well,
I think that applies to every part of this show.
So the content itself is unique in the fact that
I happen to be a strong believer. I love the Bible.
I believe it's God's words and the story of Jesus
to of course change my life, and I'm passionate about it.
And yet when it comes to the show and I'm
capturing the stories of Jesus, I'm trying to do it
(18:04):
in a way that I haven't seen before, which is
really explore the humanity of Jesus and the disciples and
even his enemies. The authenticity of the stories is huge,
and I think you would probably agree with this. When
you watch the show, we really try to put you there.
It feels like you're in the first century and you
can identify with their problems and identify with their questions,
and then hopefully ultimately identify with the solution to those
(18:26):
questions and problems. When it comes to the release of
the show, this is where we've just done it completely
outside the system. The show is completely free. You can
watch it and you can choose to pay for it
if you want. We are on our own app. We
are not on a popular streaming platform or on a
broadcast network. We've done this completely outside the system. We're
completely crowdfunded. We do it ourselves, and that's allowed us
(18:48):
to keep control of the content and then also keep
control of how people watch it. Explain that to most people,
because most people think streaming, they think about Netflix and
Hulu and Prime Video and that and again. Three hundred
and seventy four million times, it's now been viewed worldwide.
(19:09):
How how do people find it? Because when it comes
to technology, I'm probably the biggest idiot you've ever talked to. UM,
I might compete with you on that. I'm actually not
a big tech guy myself. But we've actually made this
really easy. So you just go on your phone, you
look up the chosen and we're easy to find. It's
We're our own app. Now you might be thinking, I
(19:30):
don't want to watch a Jesus show on my phone. Well,
we've made it so that you can connect it directly,
free and easy to your streaming platform. So I could
go to your house and if you've got a Roku
or Apple TV or Firestick, don't You don't even need
a subscription. You don't need your email address or anything.
It casts directly from your phone to this streaming device.
It's also on a website, the Chosen dot tv www
(19:52):
dot to Chosen dot tv. Oh, you can just look
it up and you find it. But that's where people
can actually watch the episodes again, free and easy. You
don't even have to sign up for anything. We've just
tried to make this as accessible as possible. I believe
the gospel is free, so we made the show free
and people can pay for it if they want, and
because they're so passionate about it, they are paying for it.
Some people are people who can't afford it, don't have to,
(20:14):
but those who are have generated over one hundred million
dollars in gross revenue this year alone, just so that
we can continue to do more episodes in seasons. I mean,
it's just an incredible story. And you don't hear about
this ever in media, movies, entertainment. It just doesn't happen
like this. Tell us specifically, why you went with a
(20:35):
second year Christmas with the Chosen, what that means and
what people can expect. Yeah, thank you for asking that. Yeah,
we're in between seasons two and three right now, so
we just released season two a couple of months ago,
I'm writing season three with my co writers. Well, the
fans are so rabid and they're so eager for more,
and we thought, you know what, in between these seasons,
wouldn't it be fun to do a brand new episode
(20:56):
and tell the story of the birth of Christ from
the perspective of Joseph and really explore this in a
way that hasn't been done before. There's one image in
the episode that I think stands out to me as
we were making it was it shows Joseph scooping up
a pile of manure in the stable to make room
for Mary to give birth. That image alone really moved me.
(21:17):
That thought of the birth of the Christ job coming
in the midst of you just would never expect the
Messiah to come to Earth in this way and in
this setting, and so that just really was passionate took
for me. I really wanted to capture that in a
way that hadn't been done before. And then we've got
these extraordinary musicians. So you got four King in Country
and Phil Wickham and Maverick City Music and some of
(21:38):
these great musicians who did Christmas songs on the set
of the chosen. So we gathered a dozen of those artists,
we gathered the brand new episode, and we're releasing in
theaters in December. But it just felt like a great
opportunity for this Christmas season to get people out to
theaters again, even though Hollywood had been really concerned that
people wouldn't come to theaters unless it was a big
Marvel movie or a horror film. Are like, well, let's
(22:00):
maybe see if we can pull this off. And so
it's been shattering records and it's been really funny shows
how hungry people are for the right content. It's amazing.
That's exactly the description, hungry for content and good content.
And now you're in one hundred and ninety plus countries.
You know, There's two things that I do like to
do when I'm not talking politics. Is my faith is
(22:21):
very important to me. I'm a non denominational Christian. And
by the way, I'm one of the Christians that needs
the saving kind of Christian. I'm not the perfect Christian person.
And I say that because I think Christians are often misunderstood.
You know, for example, in pop culture, it seems that
if there's a prominent Christian and they fall from grace
(22:42):
or have some public scandal of some kind. You watch
this group of people, you know, almost gleeful about it.
But that's not my understanding of Christianity. And I did
go to Catholic schools for twelve years of my life.
My understanding is to be a Christian. It's simple. Is
that you acknowledge you have failed. You have a desire
(23:04):
to change your heart. The Latin for repentance is to
change one's heart, and that you seek redemption through Jesus
Christ and reconciliation with God the Father. I think Christians
are very misunderstood. Am I wrong? You are not wrong?
And I think that's a great way to put it.
You know, when you said I'm not a perfect Christian,
(23:24):
no one is. I like to say I'm a bad Christian,
which is why I'm a Christian. The fact that we
need the Savior is not something that we learn early
on in life and then we forget about it. It's
a daily thing. It's a daily reminder. And that's actually
what the Chosen I believe does for people. Is Jesus
came to Earth to remind us of that, and he
(23:47):
had both bad news and good news. The bad news
was You're never going to get this right. You're never
going to be perfect, even even those of you, you
religious leaders. He had the most to say to them,
you religious leaders who think that you've got it together,
because as you are religious, you're just as bad, if
not worse than others, because you're hypocrites. So here's the
good news. Though, I am perfect, and I will make
(24:09):
you a surrendered and broken person. And if you surrender
your life to me, you can have access to salvation
that you wouldn't if you don't. And all you have
to do is just acknowledge that. And so the show
is showing you that we were putting you, We're putting
Jesus into this situation where the people were trying so
hard to be good, and He's like, don't worry about that.
(24:31):
You'll do that as a result of my salvation. But
that's not what's going to get you there. And the
show is a great reminder of that. I believe, and
it's where I'm my heart is. And that's what I
think people are resonating with, is Okay, these people in
first century that we've seen in stained glass windows and
as statues there, you know, we've called them saints they
were actually just like us. And he actually picked people
(24:52):
who you wouldn't have otherwise. He picked twelve guys that
were fishermen. And I don't know, I'm just assuming because
I like to watch Deadliest Catch. I don't know if
you ever watched that. It's one of my favorite shows.
And fishermen, I imagine back in Jesus's time, probably cursed,
probably noticed pretty women. And probably we're not perfect either
(25:14):
that you know, kind of like when I worked in construction,
we were construction guys. And I think the biggest, untold
part of Christianity is that, you know, here we have
And I love to debate atheists over this, not agnostics,
atheists and people, and I'll ask them, so you really
believe that all of these this energy somehow collided and
(25:38):
it formed a big bang that created universes within universes
within universes and the stars and gravity and the sun
and the moon and the planets and mankind and the
animal kingdom, et cetera, et cetera, and that just happened.
Because I don't believe that that would be a far
(25:58):
bigger miracle than the idea that there is something much
more powerful and greater than us that is a creator
and our job. I think part of the mystery of
life is finding that missing part and seeking finding, you know,
knocking and the door getting open. And I think that
a lot of people don't even see the majestic, the majesty,
(26:22):
if you will, of creation. Well, that's the beauty of
the story, is that there is, as you said, the
majesty and beauty and epic nous of creation. And yet
the creator of the universe was one of us. He
actually came to earth, and that's what the Christmas was.
The Chosen is about this story. He came to Earth
in a barn and to a scared teenager, and all
(26:44):
of that piece of it, and then the Chosen in general,
showing that Jesus came among a time of oppression, and
you mentioned earlier, you know he called fisherman. He also
actually called a tax collector, which not only back then
was rare and he wasted, as you know, you and
I probably hate tax collectors as much as anybody. To
(27:04):
Jesus actually called and said I want to make you
one of mine. And that whole piece of it, the
fact that he reached down and reached to us, that
we don't actually have to fight to get to him.
Is the most extraordinary event in human history. Well, I
wish you all the best with this. It's now when
does it start. It's run in theaters December first. Yeah,
so the show is out now, of course, but the
(27:25):
theatrical piece is December first through the Temphs in theaters.
He just look it up online. You look up The
Chosen in theaters, you'll find it. And that we've sat
I mean we've literally shattered records, doubled the record for
pre sales that we sold out in two days, so
they added eight more days in theaters and are really
kind of upsetting the Apple Kurt for what people are expecting.
So make sure you go get the tickets now. I'm
(27:46):
not saying that as a salesman. I'm saying because they
are literally selling out as we speak. It's pretty amazing.
It's a great success story, and it also shows that
when you produce quality, a quality product like you have
produced with The Chosen, that people will flock to it.
I mean, it's it's an amazing success story and it's
also enlightening, and I think it's it's the kind of
(28:07):
movie that touches people's souls. And there's not enough of
those movies that do that. I'm all for entertaining movies,
but I also like movies that make me think, touch
my soul, move me to even wanting to be a
better person. It's really nice to talk to you, Dallas Jenkins.
We'll put a link on Hannity dot com and you
want to find out. It opens in theaters on December first.
(28:29):
They've added eight days. If you want to be a
part of this Fathom event, you can do it. And
thank you, sir, continued success, Thanks for being with us,
Thanks so much, appreciate it.
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