Paul and Big Tech - September 15th, Hour 2

Senator Rand Paul, of Kentucky, joins today to talk about his exchange in his hearings yesterday, with both big tech and Fauci. 

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our two Sean Hannity Show toll free. It's eight hundred
and nine for one, Shawn, if you want to be
a part of the program. A lot of new developments
as it relates to COVID nineteen the CDC. AH, Yeah,
we were kind of wrong about that vaccine and the
information that we were putting out there a little bit
too early, which is mind numbing to me, it really is.

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And now they want to give They're coming up with
new boosters for new variants of COVID, but they haven't
tested them on human beings. They've tested them on mice
in Denmark. They have now banned the COVID vaccine for
people under fifty and less specifically approved by a doctor.
Senator Rampaul got into it with Anthony Fauci yesterday and

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threatened to investigate the royalties to Fauci and other officials. Hopefully,
if the GOP takes the Senate, he would lead that investigation.
The federal government may have accidentally sent one point three
billion in COVID relief to people in foreign countries. According
to the Inspector General Small Business Administration quote inadvertently sent

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over one point three billion in COVID relief to individuals
in foreign countries. According to this government watchdog group, the IG,
you got to be kidding me. New data the CDC
points out that STD rates have shot up in twenty
twenty one. The WHO, which has done nothing but cover
for China the whole time, says the end of the

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COVID pandemic is in sight. That probably means just the
opposite is true, because I will never listen to them again,
nor the NIH, nor the CDC, nor any politician, because
they've been wrong the entire time. Also, the House Republicans
are probing if COVID funds were used for critical race
theory in schools. You've got to be kidding all this money,

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and look where we are with the economy. Anyway, here's
part of the exchange Senator Rampaul, Doctor Rampaul, medical doctor Rampaul,
and Anthony Fauci yesterday. She really has the flu. If
she really has the flu, she definitely doesn't need a
flu vaccine. Yeah, she really has the flu. She should
not get it again. She doesn't need it because it's

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the best, it's the most potent vaccination is getting infected yourself.
This is an ongoing question, and you know we've had
ever evolving opinions from you, doctor Fauchi. Currently, anibody surveys
show that eighty percent of children, approximately eighty percent of
children have had COVID, and yet there are no guidelines
coming from you or anybody in the government to take

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into accounts there naturally acquired immunity. You seem quite certain
of yourself in two thousand and four, but in two
and twenty two, there's a lot less certainty. A vaccination
following infection gives an added extra boost. And that film
that she showed is really taken out of context. I
believe that was when someone called in Coot had a

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reaction to a vaccine. And furthermore, we've been asking you
and you refuse to answer whether anybody on the vaccine
committees gets royalties from the pharmaceutical companies. I asked you
last time, and what was your response. We don't have
to tell you. We've demanded them through Freedom of Information
Act and what have you said? We're not going to

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tell you, But I tell you this, when we get
in charge, we're going to change the rules and you
will have to divulge where you get your royalties from,
from what companies and if anybody in the committee has
a conflict of interest, we're going to learn about it.
I promise you that doctor Senator Rampaul joins us now,
great exchange, Senator. It has got to be frustrating for
you because we've been lied to on pretty much everything,

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or misled on pretty much everything. Certainly lied to us.
It relates to the Wuhan Virology Lab and the funding
of the lab and the knowledge of what takes place
that that lab gain a function research on coronaviruses. Where
do you think we are now? You know, the dishonesty
is astounding, and some of it goes right to the
core of trying to make decisions. So, if you're a

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parent in America and you've got a five year old kid,
you want to know should I vaccinate them? You would
ask the fundamental question, Well, my kid already had COVID
last week. Should I vaccinate them? Did my son get immunity?
Did my daughter get immunity from having COVID? Well, they
won't tell you the answer to this, and one of
the reasons they won't tell you is they don't like

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the answer. So I've asked doctor Frausy this question. If
my kids had COVID and they're not vaccinated, but they've
already had COVID. What is the chance that my kid
will get COVID again and go to the hospital and die.
I think the answer is zero. I don't know of
any instance of a kid who's already had COVID who
came back and got it again, went to the hospital

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and died. So if there's no chance of hospitalization or death,
maybe if my kids had COVID, which is eighty percent
of the kids now, maybe there's no reason to vaccinate
the And it's not that I'm irrationally fearful of the vaccine.
My wife got it, my in laws got it. The
only reason I didn't get it has already had COVID
and so I had immunity. But the thing is is

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for kids, if there are any unknown, long untoward effects,
why would we vaccinate kids that are at no risk
for hostilization or death because they've already had COVID. But
he won't answer the question. He used to believe this,
so we showed him a clip of two thousand and
four when he adamantly said, if you've had the infection,
you have been inoculated. This is what doctors have believed

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throughout all of the modern era, and yet he no
longer really believes this. He's like, oh, you know, I
kind of believe that, but you know, they don't give
any guidelines two parents whose children have already had COVID.
It's just completely ignored. It's ignored in all of their studies.
You know. It's very frustrating because I think people in
good faith you wanted to listen to people like Fauci.

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I mean, I'm guilty as ever anyone else. In the beginning,
I did give him the benefit of the doubt. Then
over time I saw the ever shifting positions. I mean
when he first went on sixty minutes I believe it
was March of twenty twenty and said, a mask isn't
gonna help it anyway. It may stop at droplet, but
that's not going to stop this. And then it became
one mask, then two masks, then the possibility masks in

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perpetuity that we'd all be wearing, and he became mask
obsessed at that point. And then it's well, if you
get the vaccine, you're not gonna get COVID. That's what
that was the message from people like Fauci that was
a CDC message, the NAH message, and others like Joe
Biden said the same thing repeatedly. And then we had

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a little variant called Delta that broke through every vaccine
and if you were fully vaccinated, you were getting COVID. Now,
if you're fully vaccinated and boostered and had a previous infection,
you can get it a second or even a third time.
I know people now that have had it three times.
Stock Paul Well, and they're not just advocating one vaccine

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for children, they're advocating three vaccines. Well, in England they
think no childhood or twelve should get vaccinated at all
now And Faucie still wants your kid to get three vaccines.
And so I ask him the third vaccine, the booster
vaccine for children, does it prevent transmission? And he says no.
I said, well, does it prevent hospitalization or death? He says, oh,

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there's not enough evidence. Well, there's not enough evidence, because
he answers zero. They have no deaths of people coming
back and needing this third vaccine, and yet they're approved
it based only on the fact that if they give
your kid one of these mr Anda vaccine, your kid
will make antibodies. But I said, well, if that's your
basis for approving the vaccine, I can give your kid

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a hundred vaccines and they'll make antibodies every time. But
that doesn't mean your kid needs a hundred vaccines. And
so it's completely ridiculous. They're not based on prevention of disease.
They're basing it on whether or not your child will
make antibodies. It gets even worse. This new mixture as
a new vaccine for this year. It's going to be

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a mixture of the old vaccine plus the omicron variant.
And they didn't do any human chiles. There is no
safe Yeah, they tested it a mice. If I'm not mistaken, correct,
eight mice, you know, so eight eight they're science that
follow that's following the science. Go ahead. Yeah, so if
you feel good about that eight mice getting it, go
ahead and give it to your kid. But still the

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question would exist. Anybody with a brain would ask your doctor, well,
that's fine, it may be safe and all that, but
my kids already had COVID. What does that mean? So
they have the data, They have data on thousands, if
not millions. The only time they released this data was
about a year ago. They released a million person study,
that's a big study, and they said, if you've had

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the infection, you're fifty seven times less likely to go
to the hospital than someone who hasn't had the in fact,
with no vaccine, So just have the infection without a vaccine,
you're fifty seven times less likely to be in the
hospital than someone who has had no vaccine and no infection.
It was twice as good as actual twice as good

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as actually getting the vaccine. But they won't give us
the data. Now, I mean, what's the difference between having one,
two or three for a child? What's the difference between
having zero but having had COVID? Is it better to
have three vaccines or have had the disease? And then
eighty percent of our kids have had it? Why won't
they release information because it doesn't support giving your kid

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three vaccines? And they are dead set on you submitting
and they're dead set on you getting these vaccines, which
gets us to the next question, are any of these
doctors promoting the vaccines? Any of the doctors on the committee,
Are any of them receiving royalties? And the fact that
they won't tell you concerns me that they might be
receiving royalties. Well wait a minute, you're saying that the

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people that are giving us this vice without any science
behind it, are likely benefiting financially from it. We know this.
We asked them the question. They wouldn't answer us. We
went to a judge and the judge forced them to
the Freedom of Information Act and give us some information.
They brought. They blacked it all out, they redacted it,
but we did learn that eighteen hundred doctors at NIH

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have received one hundred and ninety three million dollars. Ninety
three million dollars is not chump chains. That's a decent
amount of money for eighteen hundred scientists. Is this money
for them personally or is this money for some type
of medical program? No, it's their personal money. It's not
for researches or royalties. These are allies that they got

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personally for their own personal consumption and income. But we
don't know which companies the money came from, and we
don't know which doctors it went to. They just told
us eighteen hundred doctors one hundred and ninety three millions.
And what about Fauci himself? Is he making all those money. Also,
he won't evolved. He goes off on some long in
Cachamaney story, but he won't actually tell you the name

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of the companies. So I ask him directly, has he
gotten any from Fiser or Maderna and he said he
didn't think somebody wasn't sure. But it's bigger than just him.
I want to know the doctors who are on the
vaccine committee. It's the very least conflict of interest that
you should have to reveal to be in public service.
You cannot be on a committee approving a drug by

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a company if you're also receiving money from that particular
drug company. I don't know if they are, but if
they aren't, why won't they reveal it. I've been asking
for over two months on this, and Fauci's response is
that he doesn't have to tell me that the law
from nineteen eighty allows them to keep secret who gives
them money and from what companies. I think that's a disgrace,

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and if they want us to be less hesitant and
to believe their pronouncements, they have to come clean and
they have to say I'm not receiving any royalties from
the company that is making this vaccine to continue with
the Kentucky senator also medical doctor Rampaul is with us.
This might be right at the top now of one
of the reasons why the Republicans need a majority in

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the Senate, because if we get that, Senator Rampaul is
in charge of the committee that would be leading the
investigation into all of this, and you'll be able to
send out those subpoenas and get those records and get
that information. And there's got to be a history of
those payments being made. And if in fact that conflict existed,
if it's not against the law, which to me it

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should be certainly that needs to be remedied sooner than later.
The idea that you could profit or benefit from a
decision such so severe as this is mind numbing to me.
I mean, what a revelation. And on top of Houchi
being the highest paid government official we have and people
have to realize this is what will be the consequences

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of the election. So far, a million Americans from COVID,
six million people around the world died. And do you
know how many hearings the Democrats have had about the
origin of the virus? Zero? None, not one. There's been
never been a public discussion in Congress of did this
come from a lab? Is this malfeasance? Is this type

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of research where you create a supervirus? Is that dangerous?
So if we win, that's going to happen and we're
not talking, are you convinced based on Fauci's emails, NIH emails,
the intercepts, nine hundred pages, and even some mark or
project vericas, all that information that is now in the
public domain, do you have any doubt at all whatsoever

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that through the Eco Alliance, the NIH gave monies that
ended up directly in the hands of the Wuhan Virology Lab,
with the knowledge that gain a function research took place
there on coronaviruses without question, without question. They knew it
was gain a function, without question. They knew it was dangerous,
and they knew that night when Faulci is busily sending

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emails at two thirty in the morning to his assistance saying,
we must look at this paper and we must talk
about it tomorrow. I have many things for you to do.
He knew from that moment that there would be blame
that would attached to him and to NIH for giving
this money to Wuhan because it came from this lab.
He knew it. He knew this was so we helped
pay for the coronaviruses, don't you're saying we the taxpayers. Yes,

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you paid for the research and it went to Wuhan.
They did this research. We can't prove that it came
from the lab, but we have a mountain of evidence
on one. I don't think it came from a wet market.
I've never been convinced of that ever, especially when you
have the Wuhan virology lab that does gain a function
on coronaviruses. It seems pretty transparent. Senator, Great work, doctor,

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Senator Rampaul, thank you for all this going on. This
is why the election in fifty four days matters that much.
Including by the way, if you're in Kentuck, Senator Rampaul's
up for reelection. We're not that worried about his race,
but we take nothing for granted. You gotta go out
and support Senator Paul so he can finish this great
work he's doing. Thank you, Senator. Thanks Shan eight hundred

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nine pot one Sean, if you want to be a
part of the program. He never stops working for the
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all right, twenty five to the top of the hour,
toll free on numbers eight hundred and nine four one. Sean,

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if you want to be a part of the program,
you know, there's a certain disconnect from reality now that
we're dealing with Democrats. The medium up. They like to
talk about the big lie. Let's talk about democratic lies
for a second. They lied last month, both Kamala Harris
and Joe Biden. They were just flat out lying when

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they said inflation is a zero. It's a zero, it's
it's there's no inflation. Meanwhile, it was a forty year high,
and they just they did it on the day when
the numbers came out last month. They're higher this month,
but they actually said that. You know, now, Joe Biden
is out there bragging his policies have created historic economic
resurgence and in manufacturing boom, all of which is not true.

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But listen to the lite. I ran for office to
build a better America, not just to get aspect to
how things were before the pandemic. So we launched the
One and Agenda once in the generation effort to invest
in America. We're working to deliver an economy that finally
works for working families. We started with American Rescue Plan.
It's taking us from economic crisis, economic resurgeries. Jobs are up,

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incomes they're up, people are back to work. There's nothing
we can't do. Working with so many of you here today,
My economic agenda has ignited historic manufacturing boom here in America.
Where is it written that says we can't be the
manufacturing hub of the world. Where is it written that
you just make Adam Schiff up because he's making it up,

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he's just lying. Give me another example. Down in Georgia,
Stacy Abrams literally claiming this week, I have never denied
that I lost the Georgia's governor's race. Let me play
it for you. I have never denied that I lost.
I don't live in the governor's mansion. I would have noticed.
And there's this clip that's going around and it shows

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me saying that we won. And what I was referring
to is that we won in terms of communities that
were long left out of the electoral process. Finally participated
in eighteen at outstanding ann but I'm not delusional to
say that's clear. Well, let's see if you interpret the
new interpretation anyway the way she said it numerous times

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in the past, because she said it over and over again,
then in fact she won that race. Listen to watch
an elected official who claims to represent the people in
this state ball pin his hopes for election on the
suppression of the people's democratic right to vote has been
truly appalling. So let's be clear, this is not a

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speech of concession. We had this little election back in
twenty eighteen, and despite the final tally and the inauguration
and the situation we find ourselves in, I do have
one very affirmative statement to make. We won, but I
believe was a stolen election. And I'm not saying they

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stole it from me. They stole it from the voters
of Georgia. We won, they stole it. And then she
just told us I have never denied that I lost
the governor's race. Anyway, the Free State of Florida, and
Trish is on the line. Trish, how are you glad
you called? I am wonderful, Sean. I am a first
time caller, and I'm honored to talk to you. And
I could talk for hours, so I'll definitely get to it.

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Thank you, Thank you for calling front yet, thank you
believe me. I'm honored. Senator Ron Paul, Oh my goodness,
thank you for standing up to Fauci and be a
medical doctor that can read a clinical trial and doesn't
want to jam a bunch more of lies and propaganda
down arts rots and a way to keep us all

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scared and dependent on government. I was raised in Detroit, Michigan.
Paid for my own education, have a master's degree. The
proudest moment of my life is when I became you know,
have the life I have with my husband and son.
Paid for my own school. The biggest check of my

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life was for fifty eight thousand dollars to pay off
my student loan and the pride indignity from doing so.
My dad was a teamster. He left in the early
forties to go to Michigan for a job he was
with the UAW. He was a truck driver after being
a twin times dairy milkman, didn't get out of middle school,

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couldn't read and write, and head for a girl. Oh,
I wish we had the old days of the milkman.
Remember remember growing up, we had milkman. They were the best.
I didn't I heard, and I heard it was hard
to carry ice cream, but uh, you know, and he was.
And I was raised by a very Christian family. You know,
I went on as I was always told, I'm a Democrat.

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I'm a Democrat. It's taking her the little people. The
Republicans were the rich. We're close to the cheese program.
Thankfully we don't need it. We work hard, but in
case we need the government cheese, we never want to
forget the people that are in need. Uh. And I
started listening to Russia Windbaugh and you know, got my education,
worked at Planned Parent Hearts and was trained there and

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getting a nurse practitioner degree. Um wow, and yes so
and I still do believe in that. And I am
pro choice. I'm not actually that religious. I started interpreting
stacts and looking at how they addressed me, my family,
my ideals as an American, like what the Second Amendment means,

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and it was about protecting yourself, but protecting yourself from
your government. And then the hypocrisy and my father the
day before he died after also leading Detroit and coming
to Pensacola where Ron de santiss is an amazing leader
with substance. In fact, he voted for Donald Trump the

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first time he ever voted for a Republican right before
he died, and he was a stronghold UAW teamster and
prior to the world. The world has changed. And I'll
just refer you to what has really really pissed me
off this week, and that is the advisory, the advice

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that the Armed services are giving our brave men and
women in the military because of Biden's inflation that he
says doesn't exist, that they're now finding themselves in dire
financial need and they're being advised to go on food
stamps when all of our tax dollars are going to
pay for colleges that include Hovred and Princeton and Yale

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and every other big university through this you know, debt
forgiveness program, and we can't and are military the people
that protect the ability of children to go to college
to live in freedom is protected by a military that
has to go on food stamps? Is that how we're
now prioritizing. If you want to know what parties looking

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out for the men and women of America, it doesn't
sound like the Democrats does it, you know, when they
lecture us about our SUVs and about buying electric vehicles, etc. Etc.
And then they have a thousand airplane helicopter fleet that
we pay for and they travel to give speeches on

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a climate alarmism like Kamala Harris's today, and for what
her carbon admissions are more important than ours. And I'm
just I'm just tired of the hypocrisy. But to not
take care of our military, and yet to spend all
this money on people that are going to these schools
when they willingly sign their name on that piece of

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paper to pay back that loan, like you, I paid
back my student loan. I had a student loan to
pay it back. I paid it back, and I paid
it back at a time in my life where I
really didn't have that much money exactly, and sean, even
with student loans that I for really I could take hours.
And I now I even hate being called a Republican.
And I'm the friend that nobody wants at the party

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because it's labeled. Everyone's labeling this that and whatever. I
love all people. I would just be yourself, don't worry
about what other people think. I tell my kids this
all the time. Don't don't live your life worried about
what other people think about you. Let me ask you
said one other thing. I'm very curious about your answer.
You said, you're not a very religious person. And I

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make a distinction between religion and a belief in God.
Do you believe in God? Well, absolutely, but I don't
use that as my basis. They are pigeonholing people that
have conservative values that we're all these fanatically religious people,
you know, and I am do. I believe in spirituality
and we are a cultural melting part of the country.

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I would like to debate with every friend I have
who likes to call me out, Oh you're this, and
I'm like, I'm not any of that. Debate the policy
and how it impacts you as a human being in
your family. Don't feel that you have to. Okay, let me,
let me let me you're so interesting. I'm going to
keep you on for a few more minutes. I want
to ask you a series of questions. Okay, yeah, and

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please do and I believe you. I'm sure believe in
the cause of liberty and freedom. Is that correct? Absolutely?
We are huge supporters, okay, And you support capitalism and
our Constitution. Absolutely, yea, including our first and second Amendment. Okay,
Now my next question would be do you think we're
better off with lower taxes and less government involvement in

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our life? Or are we undertaxed? Oh my goodness, we
have an example right now. Let us corporate taxes so
we don't send everything to Mexico and the unions go there,
like keep jobs in America. Less corporate taxes, I mean
less bureaucracy. Okay. Do you think that we should be
a nation of laws? And do we need to secure

(25:26):
our borders so that we can I don't mind legal immigration,
That's how my grandparents got here, but we can do
background checks. Health checks in the middle of a pandemic
means test people so they're not a financial burden on
the American people. Is that better than open borders than
we have now? Absolutely? And we mandate for the military,

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but the boarders are open, and everyone in office currently
has been promoted to a level of men. We're going
to go to shorter answers only for the constraints of time. Now,
do you believe with all of America's energy resources gas,
hundreds of years worth of resources, coal, and oil, that
we should be energy independent and energy dominant. Absolutely. Do

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you believe that America needs to have law and order,
that we need to refund the police, and that we
need to eliminate the insanity of Nobel blows? Absolutely? Do
you believe that we have failed our children miserably even
though we spend more per capita per student than any
other industrialized country with the worst results. That we should

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have school choice and kids ought not be taught a
woke curriculum, but the simple things like reading, writing, maths, science, history,
and computers. Yeah, writing a resume, absolutely, exactly, Yeah, writing
a resume, good point. So. And you believe in free
and fair trade, and I'm sure you believe in the
military that can kick the ass of any adversary we

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may have you agree with that, oh my goodness, absolutely,
And I won't say anymore, but yes, all right, quick breakbook,
come right back more with Trish our call up from
Clarida on the other side than at the top of
the hour, we'll look at our latest poll numbers, with
our posters, and much more as we continue. The final

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hour roundup is next. You do not want to miss it,
and stay tuned for the final hour. Brieverall on the
Sean Hannity Show. All right, we continue. Trisian Clarda is
with us, she called him when having a long discussion
about which party represents working Americans. Let me just say,
putting aside your disdain for labels, you're a conservative. That

(27:38):
is conservatism. Do you believe people should legislate from the
bench or just interpret the Constitution as it's written? And
I will say, oh, no, interpret the Constitution as written.
That's what they were elected for. And we see hypoclicy. Yes,
oh I'm conservative. Those are the those are the defining
issues of our time. And you are a rock holid conservative.

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Forget Republican. I'm not even a registered Republican because they
can be so weak. They discussed me, you know, many
of them. Yes, if we would, just if And that's
why I am supporting what I see in Kevin McCarthy's
commitments to America the first time in twenty eight years
since the contract. I want these guys to sign their name,

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and I want them to keep their promises, and if
they don't keep it, throwing the hell out all of them.
Anybody that won't fight to keep their promises, throw them out. Look,
the family, the party, now that best represents those values
that we discussed as the Republican Party. I'm a registered Conservative,
but if we implement those policies, the people that will

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benefit the most are working people. There's a direct correlation
as to why pre pandemic Donald Trump sent one set
one record after another for low unemployment for every demographic
group in the country, and it's because he put those
policies in place. I want those policies back to save

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the country. It sounds like your father was a great
man and a great inspiration. Yes, you can see God
everywhere if you look out, you can look in the
stars in the sky and the sun and the wind
and the rain and the animal kingdom, and yeah, God
is pretty much everywhere. So I agree with you on that.
The doctrine part is, you know something specific. I happen

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to be a Christian or desiring to be a better Christian.
So but I think you believe your belief in God
sounds pretty solid to me, and it isn And I
just want to leave you with that. I just hope
that people that thing about not having the label is
because people have been so a hate for a man,
and you know Trump that I like he tweeted and

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did it that. I'm like, oh, man, you are doing
incredible things for all races in this cultural melting pot.
We love that. Get off the Twitter. I was hoping
he would so for a lot of people and ask
if the policy not the man, I want a good leader.
I don't want someone that my feelings got hurt. Oh listen,

(30:14):
I got a run. But you know, people liked that
he fought and got the money for the wall, and
fought to lower taxes, and fought to get these good
trade deals, and fought to get NATO to pay their
fair share. But they expected the fighting switch to go
off at every other point and that didn't happen. And
that's the that's the lack of understanding of Trump in
my mind. Anyway, appreciate the calls, Tricia. It's been a pleasure.

(30:36):
Glad you're out there. Thank you for listening. My best
to your family.