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Gregg Jarrett fills in for Sean and sits down with Peter Schweizer, Host of the Drill Down, to talk about Ukraine's future.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. I'm Greg Jarrett
filling in for Sean. I'm a Fox News legal analyst.
You can follow me on Twitter at greg Jarrett. Hope
you read my legal columns and listen to my podcast
The Brief on my website, the Greg Jarrett dot Com.
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You can also learn about my new book, The Trial
of the Century. It's now available for pre order online.
That famous trial helped form the legal bedrock on which
our civil liberties depend today. Was a battleover science, faith,
free speech, academic freedom, and the power of ideas that
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nobody should be told how to think. Legendary defense attorney
Clarence Darrow's stunning takedown of William Jennings Brian was the
most amazing courtroom confrontation in Anglo Saxon history, wrote The
New York Times, the surprising outcome of the trial foreshadowed
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today's bitter culture wars. So I hope you'll read the book,
The Trial of the Century, available now online. For those
of you who have read my many columns about the
Biden family corruption, it's encouraging that Congress is now finally
finally investigating the volumes of evidence that appear to implicate
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President Joe Biden in his son's lucrative influence pedaling schemes,
selling access and promises of potential influence to countries like China, Russia,
Ukraine and other foreign nations. Despite a laptop with reams
of incriminating evidence, no charges have ever been filed in
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a federal investigation that is now in its fifth year.
Five years no charges, and that of course invites the
inevitable question, is Joe Biden's Department of Justice protecting the President? Well,
it sure looks like it. The FBI, after all, has
had the laptop in its possession since December of twenty
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and nineteen. Whistle blowers that the bureau say top officials
at the agency buried that's smoking gun evidence. And we
know from the Twitter files that the FBI pressured, if
not directed, the social media giant to censor and suppress
the laptop story. For more, let's turn out of Peter Schweitzer,
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one of the best investigative journalists in the nation. He
is the best selling author of several books, including Red Handed,
the most recent Profiles in Corruption, Secret Empires, and Clinting Cash.
My all time favorite is pocketar website and podcast is
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the drill Down. Peter great having you back with us.
There is a terrific column and podcast on your website
to drill Down. It's entitled did the Clintons inspire the Bidens?
What's the answer to that question? I think they did.
The answer is yes. You know, Greg, you and I
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both know, having followed corruption and cronyism in Washington, DC
for a long time, everybody in Washington loves a business
model that can allow them to get rich through public service.
There are very few exceptions to that rule. And I
think in this particular case, what the Clintons did was
they globalized corruption. You know, we think about globalization with
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the economy, labor or all that kind of stuff. Corruption
got globalized too. And it was really the Clinton's the
first ones who said, you know, we're gonna cash in.
Not so much by going to you know, Wall Street
or big Tech, although we'll do some of that. We're
going to cash in by going overseas to these corrupt
political cultures places like Russia and China, and we're going
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to peddle our wares there and sell access there. That's
what the Clintons did, and I believe that the Bidens
were inspired by that. In fact, you see in the
Laptop when Hunter Biden is talking about setting up the
Biden Center at the University of Delaware, he actually compares
it to the Clinton Global Initiatives, saying, we can do
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with this what the Clintons did with the CGI. Yeah,
and in fact you go through it in great detail
in as I mentioned my favorite book, Clinton Cash, how
they the Clintons used their foundation, their Global Initiative really
is a personal piggy bank, and in particular the tens
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of millions of dollars from Russia that flowed into their foundation. Yeah,
really quite breathtaking, you know. Tell us a bit more
about that, Yeah, I mean, you know, look, Hillary Clinton
was Secretary of State the first term of the Obama administration,
and that provided a real opportunity for the Clinton family
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to cash in. I mean, they were doing pretty well
after Bill left the presidency and Hillary was in the Senate.
But once she became Secretary of State, all these foreign
entities wanted to curry favor with chief diplomat, and the
perfect avenue was the so called charity, the Clinton Foundation.
So they would make these charitable donations to the Clinton Foundation.
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The Clinton Foundation, of course, subsidized the lifestyle of the Clintons.
It became sort of a dumping ground for their political operatives,
and Russia was one of the main players, and it
centered around really sensitive important issues like uranium. You and
I discussed this on the air when this story first broke.
Uranium won this uranium company that had roughly half of
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the Uranian assets in the United States. They also had
some very very deep and rich uranium mines in Kazakhstan.
Bill Clinton essentially got the Kazakh government to sell those
uranium minds to a friend of his, a guy named
Frank Justra, who then donated one hundred million dollars to
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the Clinton Foundation. And then Justra turned around and sold
those minds and the minds in the United States to
the Russian state owned uranium producer. So they were essentially
doing the bidding of the Russian government itself. It's it's
funny to meet Greg when you look at the demonization
of Vladimir Putin today and by the way, in my mind,
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he has always deserved it. But you know, back in
ten years ago, the Clintons were very much doing the
bidding of Vladimir Putin. It wasn't just the money from
uranium one. They also took in a lot of Russian
money because of something called Skokovo, which was a Hillary
Clinton initiative as Secretary of State to create a silicon
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valley in Russia. You know what could go wrong, And
they cashed in there as well, and that enhanced the
Russian military. So Russia was for the Clinton's sort of
the the the golden calf, as it were for the Bidens.
They looked at the other part of the world. They
looked at Asia and particularly China as the place to
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cash in the most. Yeah. So you know, if I
remember correctly, about one hundred million dollars in Russian money
flows into the Clinton Foundation and their Global Initiative. Well,
at the same time, you know, Hillary and Bill are
greasing the sale of America's uranian to Russia, their their
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ownership of it. I mean, good lord, it's to me,
it's the definition of corruption. Let me come back to
something you said a moment ago. The Bidens followed the
business model of the Clintons. In fact, i'll quote from
your book Red Handed quote the Biden's father and son
together apparently followed a business model offering access to the
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highest levels of powering Washington in exchange for big money
international deals end of quote. And Peter. This is while
the elder Biden was Vice President of the United States, right, Yeah,
And that's the key ingredient here, Greg. As you know,
you know with the Clintons, Bill Clinton's speaking fees doubled
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or tripled overnight when his wife became Secretary of State
in two thousand and nine. It's not because became more eloquent.
It's because foreign entities wanted to pay them to get access.
It's the same thing with the Biden's Hunter Biden sets
up an international finance firm called Rosemont in June of
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two thousand and nine. This is, you know what, five
months after his father has sworn as Vice President of
the United States. He had never done international business before.
He couldn't have gotten a meeting because his father was
simply a senator. But now that his father was vice
president of the United States and Barack Obama gave Joe
Biden the villet for policy towards China, policy towards Ukraine.
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Now suddenly these foreign entities wanted access, they wanted favor,
they wanted favorable treatment. So what did they do. They
went to the son who had set up this international
financial business and said, we're happy to do deals with you.
So Hunter Biden, who I don't think could have gotten
really any meetings in China within a year of setting
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up his business, he's going to China and he's meeting
with the equivalent of China's head of the Federal Reserve,
the Treasury Secretary JP Morgan Goldman Sachs Ubs. He's meeting
with eleven of the hop finance executives in China. Why
because he's got some great, you know, investment scheme, because
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he's got some great expertise. No, because his father is
now in charge of policy towards China. And that's how
it works. And look, the Clintons and the Bidens absolutely
know this. They know how the game is played. And
one of the reasons that they run the money through
a family member. In the case of the Clintons, when
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Hillary was Secretary of State, it went through her husband Bill.
In the case of the Bidens, it's run through the
son or the brother, James Biden. The reason they do
that is it gives them some form of plausible deniability.
But when you look at actually what's going on. It's
very clear what's going on, and it's not fooling really anybody. Yeah,
it's it's corrupt influence, pedaling promises of access as well
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as potential influential decision making it would favor, for example, China.
You know, US banks flagged a staggering a hundred and
fifty suspicious activity reports stars is, they're known with a
financial crimes unit at the Department of Treasury reflecting tens
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of millions of dollars paid in suspected illegal transactions. Right, So,
Joe Biden suddenly becomes president United States and the Treasury
Department under Biden will not do what they've always done,
which is turn over those reports to Congress. Instead, they
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have refused so far to turn them over. What do
you make of that? Yeah, it's remarkable, Greg. You know,
what they're claiming is it would violate the banking secrecy laws.
But of course there are numerous times in the past
when Congress has requested for access to these sorts of
financial records and has gotten them from our federal government.
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In this particular case, it's a cover up, pure and simple,
And this is the sort of thing that leads to
further and further legitimate concern and suspicion, I think even
by supporters of Joe Biden. I saw a poll that
was done I think by Trafalgar just a couple of
days ago, showing that at least one third of Democrats
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believe that Joe Biden has a massive conflict of interest
when it comes to China because of his family's business dealings.
These are Democrats that probably are not listening to news
outlets such as Yours or Fox where they're actually being
exposed to the detailed information we're discussing. So it's very
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very clear to me that this is a cover up,
and I think that it's going to be interesting to
see where Democrats who don't want Joe Biden running for
reelection because they think he's too old or they don't
think he can win, where they are going to line
up because we are setting up, i think, for a
battle royale for access to this information. There's all kinds
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of things they can do to make sure that you know,
nothing personally secretive that would violate the banking rules would
be not disclosed. You can release the form, you can
redact all sorts of things. They simply don't want the
American people to know who and how much money the
Biden family has received from China. I've got about a
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minute left, so let me ask you the ultimate question.
Is it a legitimate concern that Americans should be worried
about that Joe Biden is compromised when it comes to China,
that he has essentially jeopardized America's national security. Just look
at the discussions we have in Washington all the time
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about campaign contributions by big tech, or big oil, or
by Wall Street. Those are legitimate debates. In this case,
we're not talking about tens of millions of dollars going
into campaigns. We're talking about tens of millions of dollars
going into the pockets of the first family of the
United States. So by any measure, any measure, it is
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absolutely a legitimate concern and one that I believe is
the central issue that we're facing as a republic today. Well,
I hope the Judiciary Committee as well as the Oversight
Committee in the House get to the bottom of it.
Peter Schweitzer one of the best investigative journalists, best selling
author of several books, his most recent Red Handed. Check
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out his website and podcast. The drill down, Peter, thanks
for being with us. Thanks Greg for having me. We're
gonna take a quick break. I'm Greg Jarrett filling in
for Sean on the Sean Hannity Show. We'll be right
back and Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. I'm
Greg Jarrett filling in for Sean. You can follow me
on Twitter at greg Jarrett. Read my legal columns, listen
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to my podcast The Brief on my website, the Greg
Jarrett dot Com. You can also learn about my new book,
The Trial of the Century of available for pre order online.
I wrote it with Don Yeager, terrific writer who dug
deep into the history of the case. Don was kind
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enough to join us in the first hour. He's going
to rejoin us in just a moment, so be sure
is stay tuned for that our further discussion on The
Trial of the Century. You can get it preorder it online.
This is the Sean Hannity Show. I'm Greg Jarrett filling
in for Sean. We'll be right back. Welcome back to
the Sean Hannity Show. I'm Greg Jarrett filling in for Sean.
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You can follow me on Twitter at Greg Jarrett. You
can read my legal columns and other articles on my website,
the Greg Jarrett dot Com. Listen to my podcast The Brief.
In a couple hours ago, I was talking to my
co author of my new book, Trial of the Century,
which you can pre order right now online at all
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usual online website. It's Amazon, Barnes and Noble. It's about
the Scope's Monkey trial, the Trial of the Century in
my judgment, because it's set the bedrock principles for free speech,
academic freedom, intellectual enlightenment, and the power of ideas. These
are cherished principles upon which our civil liberties depend. Today.
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We cherish these principles and the work of the greatest
trial lawyer who ever lived, Clarence Darrow. We owe great
gratitude and credit, certainly my hero in my lifetime and
joining me once again to talk about it as my coauthor,
Don Jeger, New York Times bestselling author, a longtime associate
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editor at Sports Illustrated, a popular public speaker, and done.
Thanks for sticking around for another half hour to talk
about the Trial of the Century. You know, one of
the things that people get to read about in the
book is the incredible tense courtroom scenes which I mentioned earlier,
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The New York Times described as the greatest courtroom confrontation
in Anglo Saxon history. But you can also see the
photographs of it because they were maintained. This is, you know,
almost a hundred years ago in the archives in Tennessee
at Brian College, which is in Dayton, Tennessee, and you know,
just across from the courthouse somewhat. You can see it
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from the top floor of the courthouse. And I put
together forty photographs of the trial game permission, and you know,
I go in there and I spent I don't know,
ten or twelve hours. You have to wear white cotton
gloves to handle these old, fragile photographs. And I used
this huge high resolution scanner to copy and download the
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incredible photographs. And let's talk about what they show, because
don you know, it was a circus like atmosphere at
that trial outside the courthouse enterout the town, complete with
a trained chimpanzee named Joe Mendy, which was sort of
a nod to the mistaken impression that man evolved from
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eight So talk about the circus at the trial of
the century, you know, Greg, One of the things that
really stood out as as we had a chance to
experience the town and to to walk through that courthouse.
Was that you know, at the time, the court room
where that case was tried was actually the largest courtroom
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in all of Tennessee. It was UH and and yet
it was filled to its to its complete capacity, standing
room only. People from around the country, journalist from around
the world came to be part of this event. It was,
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you know, ironically the city of Dayton arranged this trial.
They they they actually sought out the teacher John Scopes
to see if they could find someone who might have
violated the recently passed law there in Tennessee, because they
wanted the opportunity to to showcase their community. And it
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turned into it was as for many many years, it
was quite an embarrassment of black eye for for for
the for the community. But but yes, I mean one
of the things that that stood out to me was
that it was the first trial ever UH broadcast live
on radio. Every every minute of the trial, including all
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of the UH, the the actions of the judge and
and the and the UH the individual lawyers were broadcast
on WGN. UH first trial broadcasts from from beginning to
end on America An American Radio Network. So in many
ways it was the court TV version of what you
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might have experienced in some of your work. So yes,
constantly it was. It was It was seen all over
as something that everyone in the country was paying attention to,
front page of every newspaper. You know, I covered the O. J.
Simpson trial, which everybody compared to a circus. Frankly, it
paled in comparison to what unfolded in nineteen twenty five
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in Dayton, Tennessee. But similar to court TV, in which cameras,
you know, we're in the courtroom for the Simpson trial.
There were cameras in nineteen twenty five in the courtroom
in Dayton, Tennessee, for the trial of the Century the
name of our book. And they would fly these newsreel
footage every day to Chicago. There was always a plane
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that was waiting on the outskirts of town in Dayton, Tennessee,
at a small airstrip, and they would fly newsreel to Chicago,
where it would then be distributed across the nation in
movie theaters, which was how people would get their their
news through these newsreel news shorts as they were known,
and they could watch some of what was unfolding inside
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the courtroom. There's still some newsreel footage available. I found
it on YouTube. You know, it's not pretty stuff, but
you know, by today's standards, but it still exists. This
trial really impacted almost everybody who was involved in it,
In particular the defendant John Scopes. Now Scopes was arrested
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and charged with a crime of teaching evolution under this
new statute that Tennessee had passed. But other states were
doing the same thing. They were also banning books that
gave instruction textbooks on evolution in other states. Scopes life
was in so many ways, wasn't it done ruined by
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by this case? But without question, one of a chunk
of our book is dedicated to UH to kind of
the retelling of what happened to John Scope's afterward. I mean,
he he disappeared in many ways. He um, he became
an alcoholic, he lost relationship with his own family and children,
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moved you know, to UH to Central America. He there
were there were so many places where where his life
went in in a direction he was not anticipating, because
so many people were bothered by the idea that he
was um, that that he had put himself in this place.
He was clearly a bad person. And what it, what
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it did, and even some of those who tried to
chronicle it, he wouldn't allow others to talk about it.
Um he was he was, as you said, crushed by
by the moment. I mean, it was really a sad
epitaph to a law and this was a guy who
was very bright and he I think he wanted to
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be a lawyer. But you know, he almost enrolled I
think it was a university in Kentucky law school, and
that he realized that his fame or infamy was haunting him,
and you know, that's a great word, realized that he
could never be a lawyer, especially in the shadow of
his famous trava a journey Clarence Darrell. What a great
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what a great description of it. Haunt was would be
the word that you would have to look for if
you're trying to understand what happened to him next and
over the remaining the course of his life. Late in
his life, he tried to to regain some of that fame.
Actually signed up and was part of game shows and
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a couple of other things where he tried to use
what little fame was left to help him recover some
of his lost finances. But yeah, I mean it was
the promising career of a young teacher. Um was never
the same. Let's talk about the journalist who had more
influence on this trial across America than anybody in his day.
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He was the most famous journalist in America, Hl Mencin,
who was this gifted writer and a very intelligent, thoughtful person,
but with a very acerbic pen or typewriter. And you know,
he took direct aim at William Jennings Bryan, whom he mocked,
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ridiculed and demeaned, and everybody across America read Mencon's column
during the trial. Yeah, one of the one of the
great ironies though that it stood out to both of
us as we were kind of digging into this, because yes,
Mancin became quite fair amos over time and even more
famous during that trial. But while he was there covering it,
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he had made a decision when he realized that the
that that Clarence Darrow was not going to get to
put on his expert witnesses, he made the decision to
go back to Baltimore, to leave Dayton because he he thought, wow,
this is this is over and so he actually missed
and was not there for the peace of the trial
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when William Jennings Bryan actually took the stand. He wasn't
there for the very for maybe the most significant piece
of the entire event. Um, you know, you know today
you get fired for going home early and missing the
most pivotal part of the of the Trial of the Century. Again,
my guest is John don Yeger. Is is my co
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author of The Trial of the Century. You can order
it online. Pre order it now. It's an important book,
I think, And you know, in the book, I talked
so much about how I admired and respected Clarence Darrow
his principles. He was known as the Attorney for the damned,
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but he was also flawed. We opened one of the
chapters where Darrow shows up at the door of his
one time girlfriend. He is drunk, he is got a gun,
he lays it on the table and announces he's going
to kill himself. We've only got about a minute or
so left. But he was not a perfect person. But
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I identified with that because I'm not. Nobody is. We're
all afflicted with human frailty, and Darrow was certainly among us. Yeah,
you know, Greg, I don't want to spoil it, but
I will tell you that maybe my favorite part of
the entire book is where at the end you take
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you take the reins of the of the writing machine
that we had to talk about why you saw this
as such an important, such an important cultural event, and
how it plays into many of the things we are
thinking about today. I hope readers make sure that as
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they as they dig into this book, that they absolutely
listen in to your words there at the end. It
was really powerful. Well, you know, there's another battlefront that
has risen an education, not unlike the Trial of the Century.
There's vocal conflict that is so fierce over a different
kind of academic freedom, the teaching of a doctrine known
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as critical race theory. And I, you know, I don't
shy away from it. In the epilogue, and I give
an analysis of what Darrow would do today in the
face of critical race theory. And I think it will
surprise people who are expecting me to take a particular
point of view, but I try to be as fair
as I possibly can. I talk about the good and
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the bad, because the problem with CRT are the disparate
definitions of it and the use of it in various
classroom settings. There is the more benign appropriate history approach,
but there are other approaches that are less benign, and
states have reacted to it. I recount how Oklahoma has
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enacted as statute that restricts lessons on race and gender,
and the ACLU once again has stepped in, ensued, and
the case still penning. Regardless of its outcome. This is
a case that could go all the way to the
United States Supreme Court. So today's version of the Trial
of the Century is not creationism versus evolution, but critical
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race theory and under what circumstances it is appropriate or
inappropriate for it to be taught in America's public schools.
Don Jeger, thanks for sticking around for another half hour
discussion on our book, which comes out very soon but
can be pre ordered now online. It's called The Trial
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of the Century. Great, Don Jeger, thanks very much for
taking the time. Thanks for having me friend. I'm Greg
Jared's sitting in for Shawn Hannity on the Sean Hannity
Radio Show. We're going to take a quick break. We'll
be right back with Moore and welcome back to the
Sean Hannity Show on Greg Jared filling in for Sean.
It's been a pleasure over the last three hours, particularly
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talking to my co author Don Jeger. He and I
have written the book, The Trial of the Century. It's
available now for pre order online. Just go to Amazon
dot com, Barnes and Noble dot com, any other online site.
The book comes out shortly, but you can pre order
it right now. Trial of the Century. It is, I think,
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a gripping history of the great legal battle between renowned
attorney Clarence Darrow and three time presidential candidate William Jennings
Bryan in the famous Scopes Monkey trial, Evolution versus Creationism,
and the outcome set the bedrock principles for academic freedom,
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free speech, intellectual enlightenment, and the power of ideas, all
cherished rights and principles that we enjoy today. Again. That's
Trial of the Century, available for pre order right now,
and you can follow me online on my website, the
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Greg Jarrett dot com, where you can get my columns, articles,
my television and radio hits, as well as listening to
my podcast and the Brief. I'm Greg Jarrett. Thanks for listening.
I've been filling in for Sean Hannity on the Sean
Hannity Radio show
Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. I'm Greg Jarrett
filling in for Sean. I'm a Fox News legal analyst.
You can follow me on Twitter at greg Jarrett. Hope
you read my legal columns and listen to my podcast
The Brief on my website, the Greg Jarrett dot Com.
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You can also learn about my new book, The Trial
of the Century. It's now available for pre order online.
That famous trial helped form the legal bedrock on which
our civil liberties depend today. Was a battleover science, faith,
free speech, academic freedom, and the power of ideas that
(00:43):
nobody should be told how to think. Legendary defense attorney
Clarence Darrow's stunning takedown of William Jennings Brian was the
most amazing courtroom confrontation in Anglo Saxon history, wrote The
New York Times, the surprising outcome of the trial foreshadowed
(01:04):
today's bitter culture wars. So I hope you'll read the book,
The Trial of the Century, available now online. For those
of you who have read my many columns about the
Biden family corruption, it's encouraging that Congress is now finally
finally investigating the volumes of evidence that appear to implicate
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President Joe Biden in his son's lucrative influence pedaling schemes,
selling access and promises of potential influence to countries like China, Russia,
Ukraine and other foreign nations. Despite a laptop with reams
of incriminating evidence, no charges have ever been filed in
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a federal investigation that is now in its fifth year.
Five years no charges, and that of course invites the
inevitable question, is Joe Biden's Department of Justice protecting the President? Well,
it sure looks like it. The FBI, after all, has
had the laptop in its possession since December of twenty
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and nineteen. Whistle blowers that the bureau say top officials
at the agency buried that's smoking gun evidence. And we
know from the Twitter files that the FBI pressured, if
not directed, the social media giant to censor and suppress
the laptop story. For more, let's turn out of Peter Schweitzer,
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one of the best investigative journalists in the nation. He
is the best selling author of several books, including Red Handed,
the most recent Profiles in Corruption, Secret Empires, and Clinting Cash.
My all time favorite is pocketar website and podcast is
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the drill Down. Peter great having you back with us.
There is a terrific column and podcast on your website
to drill Down. It's entitled did the Clintons inspire the Bidens?
What's the answer to that question? I think they did.
The answer is yes. You know, Greg, you and I
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both know, having followed corruption and cronyism in Washington, DC
for a long time, everybody in Washington loves a business
model that can allow them to get rich through public service.
There are very few exceptions to that rule. And I
think in this particular case, what the Clintons did was
they globalized corruption. You know, we think about globalization with
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the economy, labor or all that kind of stuff. Corruption
got globalized too. And it was really the Clinton's the
first ones who said, you know, we're gonna cash in.
Not so much by going to you know, Wall Street
or big Tech, although we'll do some of that. We're
going to cash in by going overseas to these corrupt
political cultures places like Russia and China, and we're going
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to peddle our wares there and sell access there. That's
what the Clintons did, and I believe that the Bidens
were inspired by that. In fact, you see in the
Laptop when Hunter Biden is talking about setting up the
Biden Center at the University of Delaware, he actually compares
it to the Clinton Global Initiatives, saying, we can do
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with this what the Clintons did with the CGI. Yeah,
and in fact you go through it in great detail
in as I mentioned my favorite book, Clinton Cash, how
they the Clintons used their foundation, their Global Initiative really
is a personal piggy bank, and in particular the tens
(04:49):
of millions of dollars from Russia that flowed into their foundation. Yeah,
really quite breathtaking, you know. Tell us a bit more
about that, Yeah, I mean, you know, look, Hillary Clinton
was Secretary of State the first term of the Obama administration,
and that provided a real opportunity for the Clinton family
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to cash in. I mean, they were doing pretty well
after Bill left the presidency and Hillary was in the Senate.
But once she became Secretary of State, all these foreign
entities wanted to curry favor with chief diplomat, and the
perfect avenue was the so called charity, the Clinton Foundation.
So they would make these charitable donations to the Clinton Foundation.
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The Clinton Foundation, of course, subsidized the lifestyle of the Clintons.
It became sort of a dumping ground for their political operatives,
and Russia was one of the main players, and it
centered around really sensitive important issues like uranium. You and
I discussed this on the air when this story first broke.
Uranium won this uranium company that had roughly half of
(05:58):
the Uranian assets in the United States. They also had
some very very deep and rich uranium mines in Kazakhstan.
Bill Clinton essentially got the Kazakh government to sell those
uranium minds to a friend of his, a guy named
Frank Justra, who then donated one hundred million dollars to
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the Clinton Foundation. And then Justra turned around and sold
those minds and the minds in the United States to
the Russian state owned uranium producer. So they were essentially
doing the bidding of the Russian government itself. It's it's
funny to meet Greg when you look at the demonization
of Vladimir Putin today and by the way, in my mind,
(06:41):
he has always deserved it. But you know, back in
ten years ago, the Clintons were very much doing the
bidding of Vladimir Putin. It wasn't just the money from
uranium one. They also took in a lot of Russian
money because of something called Skokovo, which was a Hillary
Clinton initiative as Secretary of State to create a silicon
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valley in Russia. You know what could go wrong, And
they cashed in there as well, and that enhanced the
Russian military. So Russia was for the Clinton's sort of
the the the golden calf, as it were for the Bidens.
They looked at the other part of the world. They
looked at Asia and particularly China as the place to
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cash in the most. Yeah. So you know, if I
remember correctly, about one hundred million dollars in Russian money
flows into the Clinton Foundation and their Global Initiative. Well,
at the same time, you know, Hillary and Bill are
greasing the sale of America's uranian to Russia, their their
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ownership of it. I mean, good lord, it's to me,
it's the definition of corruption. Let me come back to
something you said a moment ago. The Bidens followed the
business model of the Clintons. In fact, i'll quote from
your book Red Handed quote the Biden's father and son
together apparently followed a business model offering access to the
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highest levels of powering Washington in exchange for big money
international deals end of quote. And Peter. This is while
the elder Biden was Vice President of the United States, right, Yeah,
And that's the key ingredient here, Greg. As you know,
you know with the Clintons, Bill Clinton's speaking fees doubled
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or tripled overnight when his wife became Secretary of State
in two thousand and nine. It's not because became more eloquent.
It's because foreign entities wanted to pay them to get access.
It's the same thing with the Biden's Hunter Biden sets
up an international finance firm called Rosemont in June of
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two thousand and nine. This is, you know what, five
months after his father has sworn as Vice President of
the United States. He had never done international business before.
He couldn't have gotten a meeting because his father was
simply a senator. But now that his father was vice
president of the United States and Barack Obama gave Joe
Biden the villet for policy towards China, policy towards Ukraine.
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Now suddenly these foreign entities wanted access, they wanted favor,
they wanted favorable treatment. So what did they do. They
went to the son who had set up this international
financial business and said, we're happy to do deals with you.
So Hunter Biden, who I don't think could have gotten
really any meetings in China within a year of setting
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up his business, he's going to China and he's meeting
with the equivalent of China's head of the Federal Reserve,
the Treasury Secretary JP Morgan Goldman Sachs Ubs. He's meeting
with eleven of the hop finance executives in China. Why
because he's got some great, you know, investment scheme, because
(10:06):
he's got some great expertise. No, because his father is
now in charge of policy towards China. And that's how
it works. And look, the Clintons and the Bidens absolutely
know this. They know how the game is played. And
one of the reasons that they run the money through
a family member. In the case of the Clintons, when
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Hillary was Secretary of State, it went through her husband Bill.
In the case of the Bidens, it's run through the
son or the brother, James Biden. The reason they do
that is it gives them some form of plausible deniability.
But when you look at actually what's going on. It's
very clear what's going on, and it's not fooling really anybody. Yeah,
it's it's corrupt influence, pedaling promises of access as well
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as potential influential decision making it would favor, for example, China.
You know, US banks flagged a staggering a hundred and
fifty suspicious activity reports stars is, they're known with a
financial crimes unit at the Department of Treasury reflecting tens
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of millions of dollars paid in suspected illegal transactions. Right, So,
Joe Biden suddenly becomes president United States and the Treasury
Department under Biden will not do what they've always done,
which is turn over those reports to Congress. Instead, they
(11:36):
have refused so far to turn them over. What do
you make of that? Yeah, it's remarkable, Greg. You know,
what they're claiming is it would violate the banking secrecy laws.
But of course there are numerous times in the past
when Congress has requested for access to these sorts of
financial records and has gotten them from our federal government.
(11:58):
In this particular case, it's a cover up, pure and simple,
And this is the sort of thing that leads to
further and further legitimate concern and suspicion, I think even
by supporters of Joe Biden. I saw a poll that
was done I think by Trafalgar just a couple of
days ago, showing that at least one third of Democrats
(12:20):
believe that Joe Biden has a massive conflict of interest
when it comes to China because of his family's business dealings.
These are Democrats that probably are not listening to news
outlets such as Yours or Fox where they're actually being
exposed to the detailed information we're discussing. So it's very
(12:40):
very clear to me that this is a cover up,
and I think that it's going to be interesting to
see where Democrats who don't want Joe Biden running for
reelection because they think he's too old or they don't
think he can win, where they are going to line
up because we are setting up, i think, for a
battle royale for access to this information. There's all kinds
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of things they can do to make sure that you know,
nothing personally secretive that would violate the banking rules would
be not disclosed. You can release the form, you can
redact all sorts of things. They simply don't want the
American people to know who and how much money the
Biden family has received from China. I've got about a
(13:22):
minute left, so let me ask you the ultimate question.
Is it a legitimate concern that Americans should be worried
about that Joe Biden is compromised when it comes to China,
that he has essentially jeopardized America's national security. Just look
at the discussions we have in Washington all the time
(13:44):
about campaign contributions by big tech, or big oil, or
by Wall Street. Those are legitimate debates. In this case,
we're not talking about tens of millions of dollars going
into campaigns. We're talking about tens of millions of dollars
going into the pockets of the first family of the
United States. So by any measure, any measure, it is
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absolutely a legitimate concern and one that I believe is
the central issue that we're facing as a republic today. Well,
I hope the Judiciary Committee as well as the Oversight
Committee in the House get to the bottom of it.
Peter Schweitzer one of the best investigative journalists, best selling
author of several books, his most recent Red Handed. Check
(14:26):
out his website and podcast. The drill down, Peter, thanks
for being with us. Thanks Greg for having me. We're
gonna take a quick break. I'm Greg Jarrett filling in
for Sean on the Sean Hannity Show. We'll be right
back and Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. I'm
Greg Jarrett filling in for Sean. You can follow me
on Twitter at greg Jarrett. Read my legal columns, listen
(14:49):
to my podcast The Brief on my website, the Greg
Jarrett dot Com. You can also learn about my new book,
The Trial of the Century of available for pre order online.
I wrote it with Don Yeager, terrific writer who dug
deep into the history of the case. Don was kind
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enough to join us in the first hour. He's going
to rejoin us in just a moment, so be sure
is stay tuned for that our further discussion on The
Trial of the Century. You can get it preorder it online.
This is the Sean Hannity Show. I'm Greg Jarrett filling
in for Sean. We'll be right back. Welcome back to
the Sean Hannity Show. I'm Greg Jarrett filling in for Sean.
(15:35):
You can follow me on Twitter at Greg Jarrett. You
can read my legal columns and other articles on my website,
the Greg Jarrett dot Com. Listen to my podcast The Brief.
In a couple hours ago, I was talking to my
co author of my new book, Trial of the Century,
which you can pre order right now online at all
(15:57):
usual online website. It's Amazon, Barnes and Noble. It's about
the Scope's Monkey trial, the Trial of the Century in
my judgment, because it's set the bedrock principles for free speech,
academic freedom, intellectual enlightenment, and the power of ideas. These
are cherished principles upon which our civil liberties depend. Today.
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We cherish these principles and the work of the greatest
trial lawyer who ever lived, Clarence Darrow. We owe great
gratitude and credit, certainly my hero in my lifetime and
joining me once again to talk about it as my coauthor,
Don Jeger, New York Times bestselling author, a longtime associate
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editor at Sports Illustrated, a popular public speaker, and done.
Thanks for sticking around for another half hour to talk
about the Trial of the Century. You know, one of
the things that people get to read about in the
book is the incredible tense courtroom scenes which I mentioned earlier,
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The New York Times described as the greatest courtroom confrontation
in Anglo Saxon history. But you can also see the
photographs of it because they were maintained. This is, you know,
almost a hundred years ago in the archives in Tennessee
at Brian College, which is in Dayton, Tennessee, and you know,
just across from the courthouse somewhat. You can see it
(17:29):
from the top floor of the courthouse. And I put
together forty photographs of the trial game permission, and you know,
I go in there and I spent I don't know,
ten or twelve hours. You have to wear white cotton
gloves to handle these old, fragile photographs. And I used
this huge high resolution scanner to copy and download the
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incredible photographs. And let's talk about what they show, because
don you know, it was a circus like atmosphere at
that trial outside the courthouse enterout the town, complete with
a trained chimpanzee named Joe Mendy, which was sort of
a nod to the mistaken impression that man evolved from
(18:16):
eight So talk about the circus at the trial of
the century, you know, Greg, One of the things that
really stood out as as we had a chance to
experience the town and to to walk through that courthouse.
Was that you know, at the time, the court room
where that case was tried was actually the largest courtroom
(18:38):
in all of Tennessee. It was UH and and yet
it was filled to its to its complete capacity, standing
room only. People from around the country, journalist from around
the world came to be part of this event. It was,
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you know, ironically the city of Dayton arranged this trial.
They they they actually sought out the teacher John Scopes
to see if they could find someone who might have
violated the recently passed law there in Tennessee, because they
wanted the opportunity to to showcase their community. And it
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turned into it was as for many many years, it
was quite an embarrassment of black eye for for for
the for the community. But but yes, I mean one
of the things that that stood out to me was
that it was the first trial ever UH broadcast live
on radio. Every every minute of the trial, including all
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of the UH, the the actions of the judge and
and the and the UH the individual lawyers were broadcast
on WGN. UH first trial broadcasts from from beginning to
end on America An American Radio Network. So in many
ways it was the court TV version of what you
(20:06):
might have experienced in some of your work. So yes,
constantly it was. It was It was seen all over
as something that everyone in the country was paying attention to,
front page of every newspaper. You know, I covered the O. J.
Simpson trial, which everybody compared to a circus. Frankly, it
paled in comparison to what unfolded in nineteen twenty five
(20:29):
in Dayton, Tennessee. But similar to court TV, in which cameras,
you know, we're in the courtroom for the Simpson trial.
There were cameras in nineteen twenty five in the courtroom
in Dayton, Tennessee, for the trial of the Century the
name of our book. And they would fly these newsreel
footage every day to Chicago. There was always a plane
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that was waiting on the outskirts of town in Dayton, Tennessee,
at a small airstrip, and they would fly newsreel to Chicago,
where it would then be distributed across the nation in
movie theaters, which was how people would get their their
news through these newsreel news shorts as they were known,
and they could watch some of what was unfolding inside
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the courtroom. There's still some newsreel footage available. I found
it on YouTube. You know, it's not pretty stuff, but
you know, by today's standards, but it still exists. This
trial really impacted almost everybody who was involved in it,
In particular the defendant John Scopes. Now Scopes was arrested
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and charged with a crime of teaching evolution under this
new statute that Tennessee had passed. But other states were
doing the same thing. They were also banning books that
gave instruction textbooks on evolution in other states. Scopes life
was in so many ways, wasn't it done ruined by
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by this case? But without question, one of a chunk
of our book is dedicated to UH to kind of
the retelling of what happened to John Scope's afterward. I mean,
he he disappeared in many ways. He um, he became
an alcoholic, he lost relationship with his own family and children,
(22:27):
moved you know, to UH to Central America. He there
were there were so many places where where his life
went in in a direction he was not anticipating, because
so many people were bothered by the idea that he
was um, that that he had put himself in this place.
He was clearly a bad person. And what it, what
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it did, and even some of those who tried to
chronicle it, he wouldn't allow others to talk about it.
Um he was he was, as you said, crushed by
by the moment. I mean, it was really a sad
epitaph to a law and this was a guy who
was very bright and he I think he wanted to
(23:11):
be a lawyer. But you know, he almost enrolled I
think it was a university in Kentucky law school, and
that he realized that his fame or infamy was haunting him,
and you know, that's a great word, realized that he
could never be a lawyer, especially in the shadow of
his famous trava a journey Clarence Darrell. What a great
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what a great description of it. Haunt was would be
the word that you would have to look for if
you're trying to understand what happened to him next and
over the remaining the course of his life. Late in
his life, he tried to to regain some of that fame.
Actually signed up and was part of game shows and
(23:53):
a couple of other things where he tried to use
what little fame was left to help him recover some
of his lost finances. But yeah, I mean it was
the promising career of a young teacher. Um was never
the same. Let's talk about the journalist who had more
influence on this trial across America than anybody in his day.
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He was the most famous journalist in America, Hl Mencin,
who was this gifted writer and a very intelligent, thoughtful person,
but with a very acerbic pen or typewriter. And you know,
he took direct aim at William Jennings Bryan, whom he mocked,
(24:43):
ridiculed and demeaned, and everybody across America read Mencon's column
during the trial. Yeah, one of the one of the
great ironies though that it stood out to both of
us as we were kind of digging into this, because yes,
Mancin became quite fair amos over time and even more
famous during that trial. But while he was there covering it,
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he had made a decision when he realized that the
that that Clarence Darrow was not going to get to
put on his expert witnesses, he made the decision to
go back to Baltimore, to leave Dayton because he he thought, wow,
this is this is over and so he actually missed
and was not there for the peace of the trial
(25:32):
when William Jennings Bryan actually took the stand. He wasn't
there for the very for maybe the most significant piece
of the entire event. Um, you know, you know today
you get fired for going home early and missing the
most pivotal part of the of the Trial of the Century. Again,
my guest is John don Yeger. Is is my co
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author of The Trial of the Century. You can order
it online. Pre order it now. It's an important book,
I think, And you know, in the book, I talked
so much about how I admired and respected Clarence Darrow
his principles. He was known as the Attorney for the damned,
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but he was also flawed. We opened one of the
chapters where Darrow shows up at the door of his
one time girlfriend. He is drunk, he is got a gun,
he lays it on the table and announces he's going
to kill himself. We've only got about a minute or
so left. But he was not a perfect person. But
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I identified with that because I'm not. Nobody is. We're
all afflicted with human frailty, and Darrow was certainly among us. Yeah,
you know, Greg, I don't want to spoil it, but
I will tell you that maybe my favorite part of
the entire book is where at the end you take
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you take the reins of the of the writing machine
that we had to talk about why you saw this
as such an important, such an important cultural event, and
how it plays into many of the things we are
thinking about today. I hope readers make sure that as
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they as they dig into this book, that they absolutely
listen in to your words there at the end. It
was really powerful. Well, you know, there's another battlefront that
has risen an education, not unlike the Trial of the Century.
There's vocal conflict that is so fierce over a different
kind of academic freedom, the teaching of a doctrine known
(27:41):
as critical race theory. And I, you know, I don't
shy away from it. In the epilogue, and I give
an analysis of what Darrow would do today in the
face of critical race theory. And I think it will
surprise people who are expecting me to take a particular
point of view, but I try to be as fair
as I possibly can. I talk about the good and
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the bad, because the problem with CRT are the disparate
definitions of it and the use of it in various
classroom settings. There is the more benign appropriate history approach,
but there are other approaches that are less benign, and
states have reacted to it. I recount how Oklahoma has
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enacted as statute that restricts lessons on race and gender,
and the ACLU once again has stepped in, ensued, and
the case still penning. Regardless of its outcome. This is
a case that could go all the way to the
United States Supreme Court. So today's version of the Trial
of the Century is not creationism versus evolution, but critical
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race theory and under what circumstances it is appropriate or
inappropriate for it to be taught in America's public schools.
Don Jeger, thanks for sticking around for another half hour
discussion on our book, which comes out very soon but
can be pre ordered now online. It's called The Trial
(29:07):
of the Century. Great, Don Jeger, thanks very much for
taking the time. Thanks for having me friend. I'm Greg
Jared's sitting in for Shawn Hannity on the Sean Hannity
Radio Show. We're going to take a quick break. We'll
be right back with Moore and welcome back to the
Sean Hannity Show on Greg Jared filling in for Sean.
It's been a pleasure over the last three hours, particularly
(29:29):
talking to my co author Don Jeger. He and I
have written the book, The Trial of the Century. It's
available now for pre order online. Just go to Amazon
dot com, Barnes and Noble dot com, any other online site.
The book comes out shortly, but you can pre order
it right now. Trial of the Century. It is, I think,
(29:51):
a gripping history of the great legal battle between renowned
attorney Clarence Darrow and three time presidential candidate William Jennings
Bryan in the famous Scopes Monkey trial, Evolution versus Creationism,
and the outcome set the bedrock principles for academic freedom,
(30:13):
free speech, intellectual enlightenment, and the power of ideas, all
cherished rights and principles that we enjoy today. Again. That's
Trial of the Century, available for pre order right now,
and you can follow me online on my website, the
(30:33):
Greg Jarrett dot com, where you can get my columns, articles,
my television and radio hits, as well as listening to
my podcast and the Brief. I'm Greg Jarrett. Thanks for listening.
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