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An hour two Sean Hannity Show, Thank you for being
with us, toll free. It's eight hundred and nine one Sean,
if you want to be a part of the program.
You might recall that there were two people that then
Kevin McCarthy, Minority leader, put up to be on the
jan sixth committee. One was Jim Jordan of Ohio. The
other was Jim Banks of Indiana, and Nancy Pelosi would
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not hear of it. So then at that point Kevin
McCarthy said, what's the point if you're not going to
let our people on the committee? Anyway, With that said,
we're gonna be joined in a second by Jim Banks
of Indiana. And regarding his announcement, I'll let him make
it himself. And if you haven't heard about it yet,
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he wrote an op ed out this weekend, you know,
tackling the woke as a joke agenda, and he says
rightly that it's paralyzing the success of this once great country.
Let me read to you a little bit about what
he said. He said, we no longer live in a
normal America. The issues that Congress used to take up,
like healthcare, the economy, or are withdrawal from Afghanistan are
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regrettably pale in comparison to the creeping tyranny which nearly
all Americans now feel. Our nation's most powerful forces are
intelligence agencies, corporations, the press, our universities, even are military.
Are all pressing further and further into uncharted territory which
it's not clear America can return, and for the time being,
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saving America rest in the House of Representatives, he said.
The most toxic part of this tyranny is its doctrine wokeness.
Everyone has by now heard this word, but it means
something very specific. It means that all the so called
the pressor groups must be punished for their past and
present alleged sins, and there are many steps to punishing them,
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inducing self hatred through indoctrination, stripping away their rights, not
enforcing the laws on their behalf, public humiliation, hatred, and
ultimately possibly violence. That's why the left has done so far.
It's not exactly clear how far they may go. And
what does wokeness mean for the so called depressed. Well,
it means privileged status, exemption from certain laws and norms,
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and the public recognition that their views are unimpeachable. Unimpeachable.
They cannot be contradicted by reason, they can't be doubted.
They must be believed anyway. Congressman Jim Banks of Indiana
joins us. Now, sir, how are you glad you called? Hey? Sean,
gonna be with you. What's going on, sir? Well, you
you have a you have a little bit of an
announcement to make I know what it is. But it's interesting.
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I do, thank you, Sean. I'm in Indiana today, back
in God's country. I've kicked off my campaign for the
United States Senate. I believe that the Senate needs a
shake up, it needs a new generation of conservative fighters.
And I've been in the House. I've been on the
front lines of the fights in the House these past
six or seven years. Mike Braun, our current senator, is
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running for governor, so he's opened up the Senate seat.
And I just feel like Indiana, being the conservative great
state that it is, deserves a conservative fighter for to
go to Washington, to serve in the Senate, to fight
for who's your family. So I've kicked off off the
campaign today. Go to thanks for Senate dot com. You
can watch my kickoff video and get involved. I'm excited
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about the long campaign ahead. Oh, this is going to
be a long campaign. This Senate season is going to
be vital, and it's going to be crucial. Let me
talk to you about something a little more as something
that I don't believe most people are paying attention to.
I believe, and at any point interrupt me tell me
that I'm wrong. I believe elections and the election process
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in this country has changed dramatically, and I think Republicans
are sort of like at iPhone version one or two
point zero, and Democrats are at iPhone fourteen or fifteen
that version of elections. And what I mean by that is,
I don't see I don't see Senate candidates, presidential candidates
doing what candidates traditionally would do to campaign. I don't
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see them out They're kissing babies, taking selfies, making press avails,
giving speeches, doing town halls, doing rallies. I don't see
any of that. Three quick examples would be Joe Biden
in twenty twenty or in twenty twenty two, Katie Hobbs
or John Fetterman. They hide in their basement. They seem
to collect, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars in
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money that they spend on negative ads. They stay on
the air pounding their Republican opponents. If they show up
to a debate, it'll be like after a month's worth
of voting has taken place in their respective states. If
they even show, many don't show, like in the case
of Katie Hobbs, and I think they're they're in the
ballot harvesting business. Now, I've done a lot of research
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on this, and ballot harvesting is allowed in a number
of states. Twenty five states and DC have laws allowing
the voter to have someone of their choosing return their ballot.
Eleven states have laws allowing certain people family member to
return ballots on a voter's behalf. Alabama, turns out, is
the only state that explicitly says the voter must return
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the ballot themselves. Thirteen states didn't have any specific rules
regarding ballot harvesting or collection, and sixteen states don't even
have voter ID laws. Now here's my long winded question.
Forgive me. I'm going to give you all the time
you want. Republicans, in my view, they're running old style campaigning,
thinking that it's going to be about ideas, and the
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Democrats seem to have moved on to the ballot business,
not the running for office. We have a better vision business.
Am I wrong? Sean? I think you're exactly right. And
this is why I voted to object to Pennsylvania's electoral
College votes on January sixth of twenty twenty one. And
I'll never apologize for it, because they should never be
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possible for a state to change their election laws without
the approval of their state legislature, which is the only
constitutional way to change election laws like Pennsylvania did to
help one guy beat another guy, to help their guy
beat our guy. It's it's it's a shameful example, I
think to the larger point that you're making of how
these campaigns have evolved when you have the regime and
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some of these states the establishment, and some of these
states get away what they've long gotten away with that
that would never happen in Indiana, at least we'd like
to think so. Our state legislature has passed some stronger
election integrity laws. Last year. I introduced a bill in
the Congress, and some Republicans have opposed this concept, but
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I believe there is a federal role states control our
election laws, but we should amend federal election laws. Have
another federal election laws to ban ballot harvesting and federal elections,
there is a nexus stop it from happening. I also
say that once ballots are once they start counting ballots
on election night, they can't stop counting and take a
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pause and then start counting again a day or two later.
That should never be allowed to happen. And there is
a role here for I think the federal government, but
a larger role for the states to past a stronger
election integrity laws too. So your state of Indiana allows
someone else to return a ballot, but with restrictions, typically
a household, family member, caregiver, etc. Now there are sixteen
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states that don't even have a voter ID law, which
I think is insane too. I think you ought to
be able to prove who you are. I walk into
my precinct in New York and they don't ask for anything.
They say, Hi, mister Hannity, great to see you, hy Sean,
how are you? And I say, hi, guys, great to
see it. Thank you for what you do every year.
We appreciate it. And I'm handed a ballot and I go,
and then I just have to say who I am
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now they In most cases, I'm friends with the people
because I've known them for years, having voted in the
same precinct for years. But I think that's a big deal.
There's one other issue I want to ask you about
this and then we'll move on to some important issues too,
and that is I talk about what's called accelerated migration.
We have baby boomers now hitting retirement age and big numbers,
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and what you see, for example, in New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania,
you see a lot of conservatives tired of COVID shutdowns,
tired of high taxes, tired of burdensome regulation. They're moving
and they're going to Florida and huge numbers. They're going
to the Carolinas and huge numbers. They're going to Texas
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and massive numbers. And then you have the Midwest, and
that would include Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, and to a smaller extent, Indiana.
Conservatives leaving those states. And while it's making states like
Florida and Texas renter and the Carolina is maybe renter,
those Midwestern states of which you are part of the
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they're harder now for Republicans to win, especially you know,
statewide office or in the case of a presidency. Yeah,
you know, Sean. Here's the lesson that I've learned though,
and Donald Trump taught me this lesson. Donald Trump made
the Republican Party the party the working class again, and
that's where we make up the difference when we appeal
to blue collar, working class Americans like my dad, a
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lifelong union Democrat, worked in a factory all of his life,
never identified himself as a Republican until Donald Trump became
president and started appealing to voters like him. That that's
how we make up the difference, I believe, and what
you're describing is bring those voters into the Republican Party
and even bigger ways and keep them there, cement them
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as part of the Republican Party. And that that's the ship.
That's the paradigm shift in American politics today that Donald Trump,
that Donald Trump started, and it's incumbent on the new
generation Republican leaders like myself to keep it this way.
This lesson that we've learned is that we need to
we need to represent those voters. We need to represent
blue collar working Americans by holding China accountable, trade deals
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that are better for working class Americans, secure the border,
and immigration policies that put American workers first. So that's
how we change the Republican Party and have broader appeal
and pick up those voters in places like Indiana in
the Midwest. I agree, they let the left, let the
Democrats be the party of coastal elites. Um, let's talk
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about what you wrote in as op ed. It was
very powerful. We no longer live in a normal America. Explain. Yeah,
I want to go back to the case you're making
about election laws for amendment, because there's a good parallel
in Indiana. A couple of years ago, after the twenty election,
the state legislature took up a voter ID law. There
was a strong law, and they faced immediate backlash from
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some major corporations in Indiana. The NC double As headquartered
in Indianapolis, and they cried out against it. They called
it racist, just like they called the election laws and
Georgia racist. The governor kept passed down there. When we
talk about wokeism infecting corporate America, when they tell us
that we can't even disagree with them on election laws
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and tell us that we're racist because we believe in
voter id laws. That's that's what I'm talking about. That
what the left has done to change, take away our
freedom of speech, attack our freedom, our freedom of religion,
our religious liberties. That's the wokeism that we have to
uproot and fight back against and eradicate. And that's why
I've started the first ever anti Woke Caucus in Congress
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so we can strategize and do that. What do you
think of the latest now three separate locations with documents
of Joe Biden, especially in light of what he said
about Donald Trump, the rate on Donald Trump's place, and
in light of Hillary Clinton getting a pass for all
of her top secret classified information, hard deleted emails, thirty
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three thousand of them, her busted devices with hammers, her
missing SIM cards. What do you make when you put
it all together? What do you make of it all? Yeah?
I would laugh about as Sean if it weren't so serious.
I mean, there's a pattern now with Joe Biden that
you know, the way that he recklessly stored these documents,
that the sheer hypocrisy is one part of it. I mean,
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I still want to know what the documents were that
they when they rate when the unprecedented rate on Marlago
and the documents there. We don't know what those documents are,
and I have a feeling that they're not as serious
as what they've made them out to be. At the
same time, the document they found at Biden's house and
at the Biden Center, we know that those were serious
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documents with national security interests, so we have to investigate them.
Jamie Cohmer's leading the Oversight Committee is going to do that,
and we got to get to the bottom of as
soon as we can hold them accountable. Well, we wish
you the best in your campaign. You've been a long
time front of this program. You've been a stalwart as
it relates to and servative principles who are going to
watch a race closely. You've got a lot of time
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between now and twenty twenty four. I'm almost like we're
reluctant right now to even start talking about twenty twenty four,
and I think you can understand why. But these are
troubling times and electing a Republican Senate, Republican president, keeping
a Republican House are critical to me. That's right. We
have a long way to go. Appreciate opportunity to talk
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about a good at banks Percy dot com and help
us out today. All right, Jim Banks, Congressman Indiana, thank you,
my friend. So much going on today, and I wonder
and I sometimes don't even want to bring up all
the bad economic news, and I won't necessarily hear. Republicans
do plan on moving forward to impeach the Department of
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Homeland Security Secretary Mayorcus Senior. House Republicans are moving swiftly
to build the case that he's not enforcing the law,
which by the way, has proved rather easily. Congressman Jim
Jordan is intending to probe the Biden administration and their
abuses against January sixth defendants. You know, nobody, not a
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single person lifted a finger. This is what bothers me
about how hypocritical the jan sixth Committee was because we
spoke out in real time. I'm against writing you got
to protect our institutions, you got to protect elected officials.
That's basic common sense. Not difficult to figure that out.
But we had five hundred and seventy four riots in
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the summer of twenty twenty. Where's that investigation? We had
dozens of dead Americans thousands of injured cops, billions in
property damage, not even a single nothing anyway, the battle.
Let me just warning. I had conversations with people this
weekend about the pending battle on the debt ceiling. Apparently
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this is like months away. But I do like the
fact that Republicans are getting together and they're gonna have
long discussions where they plan to cut federal spending and
how they plan to handle it, because they need to
be prepared for being accused of shutting down the government.
The full faith and credit of the United States is
hanging in the balance, none of which is gonna be true.
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But the pressure will be on them, not on the
big spenders on the Senate side, not on big spenders
even on the House side known as Democrats. So Republicans
better be ready, united, have a strategy, and stand on
the principles for which they ran on and were elected on.
Not that hard Jim Jordan, by the way, firing back
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at the White House. Republicans want fair treatment. The FBI
hasn't released pictures of Biden's classified documents as they did
with Trump. Why not? Good question? All right, quick break
right back. Your calls are next eight hundred nine one San.
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see that? I did see that, and what were your thoughts.
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I'd like to know what qualifies as African American. I'm
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to see how that money would be disseminated. And I'm
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and you want to give this kind of money away.
In DC, they want to soften the penalties for cardjacking
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and other violent crimes. And because that's a deterrent s one.
You know, when you tell criminals, don't stop, no, just
take it easy, Relax. We'll send us a psychologist, a
therapist to the scene of the crime. And you know,
when you kill them, just do it easily. You know,
take your time, be gentle. You know, this is how
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we're dealing with crime in America. Marie Osmond has now
for the second time, come out with a statement that
she refuses to give her kids any of her inheritance.
And she's really passionate about it. She says, it only
breeds laziness and entitlement. Honestly, why would you enable your children,
your child to not try to be something. I don't
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know anybody who becomes anything if they're just handed money.
And she said to me, the greatest gift you can
give your child is a passion to search out who
they are inside and to work. And one of my
rules is if you start something, you finish something. And
I just think all inheritance does has breed laziness and entitlement.
The comments reiterate the sentiment that started three years ago.
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But here's my point. You really, well, what do you
think of that you cant structure any will or any
trust to have conditions associated with it. One condition can
be that you must be, you know, gainfully employed. One
condition could be you're free of all drug and alcohol
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use or addiction, etc. Etc. Oh, maybe I misunderstood what
you said. I thought you said that she said she
wasn't giving them any money. Now, No, she's not given
the money period, So she's saying that not just when
she passes on, but while she's here right now, she's
not giving any money regardless. Right. But if you can't
put restrictions on any money that you leave for somebody,
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as long as you have somebody that's willing to be
a trustee, that would be that would enforce whatever your
wishes are. And part of that can be gainful employment.
You know, no drug use, moderate alcohol consumption. Obviously he
can't be a raging alcoholic or whatever, and whatever other
behaviors and you have to But you know, money can
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be used. Money is not the means to an end.
There's not a single person I know that that has
money that doesn't have problems. They might be different problems,
but they have real problems in many ways. Raising kids,
you know, it's a difficult thing to do. But if
you really believe in self actualization of your children, sometimes
that does cost money, and that money can assist them
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to achieve whatever whatever that talent is that she's referring to.
So I don't I understand what she's saying. It just
sounds extreme to me, it does, And I wonder if
there's obviously, you know, this is a private matter. I'm
sure there's more to this story than we know. You know,
we're reading, you know, the cliff Notes version of their lives.
So who the hell knows what her kids did? But
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oh listen, I respect her decision. It's our choice, it's
her money her I don't know that I respect her decision.
I mean, there's a lot of bad mothers out there,
a lot, and I think that there are a lot
of people that you know, there's a lot of bad parents,
and they just they don't like to take care of
their children and they like to get over, and they
put up a good front outside and they say it's X,
Y and Z, and really it's not. So I have
very strong feelings about these types of things. But I
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don't know her particular situation. But in my opinion, you know,
you can teach your children to respect money and earn
a good living and be a you know, a contributing
citizen of society without being a you know, a loafer
or you know somebody who's just looking for a free ride. Well,
we get to the phones one of the article. I'm
meant to mention this. Chila Jackson Lee, congresswoman Texas, has
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introduced a bill to combat quote white supremacy by criminalizing
certain forms of hate speech. Anyway. The bills language is broad,
could result in facing criminal charges for sharing hateful content,
including on social media. Now, it does raise the question
what part of the First Amendment does she not understand?
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But under her bill, a person that engages in a
white supremacy inspired hate crime when white supremacy ideology has
motivated the planning, development, preparation, and perpetration of actions that
constituted a crime or was undertaken. But the bill would
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impose criminal penalties for those who publish materially advancing white supremacy,
white supremacist by theology. How about racism in general, is
a virulent anti semide and racist. I mean, fair kans
is one of many, you know, I mean, we've got
there is there is an ongoing it's so interesting, there's
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an ongoing effort right now to create a nation of division.
Right we're no longer Americans were Americans, and we can't
figure it out, and we can't unite, and we can't
find our way. But what we can do is we
can continue to divide and to be totally segregated from
one another, which is everything that we fought against for
the past fifty years of our lives. And so to me,
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somebody like her is standing out there perpetrating a lie
and saying that things are happening when they're not. And
at the end of the day, I think everything that
she says is racist, and I think that she is generalization.
But that's what she's that's what she's doing. Right. So
if we're all going to broad sweep and generalize and
just make blanket statements, and you know, that's that's the
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biggest problem that I have with someone This is an
elected congressional official who is taking a swipe at an amendment,
at a at an aspect of our government, of our freedoms.
Who is the objective person saying that something is or
is not racist, is or is not supremacy? Who are you?
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You know? The thing is is I never awarded hey,
crimes legislation in the sense that you you give an
additional punishment. If you can prove what motivated somebody, you
punish people for the crimes they commit. How do you
prove what was in a thought of somebody? What? Because
they maybe they wrote it down in an email or
a tweet or a tax or whatever. We're not prosecuting crimes.
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Well that's the other issue. Separate apart, all right. Patty
is in North Carolina. Patty, how are you glad you
called hey darling? I'm good, Hey darling. You know that's
the illegal to say, but I'm but you can say
it to me as often as you want. That's fine.
It's allowed on this I always call you darling. So, um,
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here's the deal. When I look at how the Democrats operate,
I think of a Jason Bourne movie. Well thought out, precision,
got their act together. Everybody is on the same plan,
and it's stilt. When I think of how we handle things,
it's more like murder, she wrote. Everybody seems murder, she wrote,
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I mean, that's that's just the way I say it.
They might get to the end, but it's just so
from peace. I guess that's the way to Jason Born
movies myself. I think they're great, and you know what
I mean now I think I know I know fully
what you mean. And so when it came out last
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week that oh, they found these documents, and I was like,
oh my gosh, So why didn't we come right out
and say, oh, you found documents, did you? Well, there's
a lot more to this story. We're not going to
sleep until we get the answers that we need on this.
And that's what should have been hammered, hammered, hammered. You're
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hiding something, we know it. We're going to figure it out.
Don't think you're gonna pull one over on us. But
that's not really what anybody came out and said. I
mean to be ready to come right back and pound
them just as hard as they pound us, and just whining,
Oh they were so mean to Trump and they're not
being that mean to Biden, No, it's not moving us
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along anywhere that we need to be. And it's just
so frustrating. I watched TV all weekend and it was
the same whining, whining, whining. Let's come out and have
some gumption and some power behind us, and somebody stand
up and say, we know what's going on. We're going
to prove it. We're going to figure it out, and
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don't think we're that big of a sucker or they
just happen to find something in a closet. I want
to hear that, Sean, Well, you want look a lot
of this is happening, and these investigations are real. I
think America now sees rank hypocrisy at a level that
they needed to see. I think there's a lot more
that behind this, a lot more to come on this.
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I just think you just, you know, follow each lead
and we're going to get to where we need to go.
But if you look at the mob, the media, and
you look at Democrats and you look at how they
reacted to Trump and Mara Lago and the raid and
classified top secret materials, it's as if Hillary Clinton never
had any you know, the way they protected her. But
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there's a different standard for Donald Trump and now a
different standard for Joe Biden. Let they handles on a
silver platter. You know, well, you couldn't write it any better.
Considering however everybody reacted to the August rate of Mara Lago.
You know, they couldn't have written it any better. You know,
the people that defended no prosecute or whatever prosecute. And
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Hillary Clinton had done far worse by a long shot,
than Donald Trump had done. But this is the world
we live in, and you know, it's the whole thing
has been unfair. I've never seen a single human being
in politics treated more unfairly than Donald Trump. And I'm
not crying me or river. I'm just telling you what
the reality is. They they had it infir him, and
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they use the powers of government to help, you know,
drive him out of the political discourse as much as
humanly possible, and they still try to this day and
they don't stop. And you know, as Donald Trump is
he guilty of one thing in the sense that he
fights back. Yeah, he defends himself, and that gets a
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little rough, and that becomes too rough and tumble for
their precious little brains to handle. But Anyway, good call, appreciated, Patty,
God bless you as always all a quick break, we'll
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