December 5, 2023 • 29 mins
Sean Spicer, Host of the Sean Spicer Podcast, is in Alabama all week doing his show and talking to candidates and GOP officials ahead of tomorrow’s debate. He also has plenty to say about the debate last week between Governors Newsom and DeSantis.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, news, round up, information, overload, hour, toll free.
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Our numbers eight hundred and nine to four one Shawn.
If you want to be a part of the program.
Coming to you from beautiful Davenport, Iowa. Tonight, we have
our town hall with former President Trump. As we now
get ever closer to the all important Iowa caucuses, we're
still getting a lot of reaction feedback to the debate
that took place last Thursday between Governor Rondo Santis and
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Governor Gavin Newsom. Our friend Sewn Spicer commented a lot
on it, joining us. Now, our friend Sewn Spicer is
back with us. Sir, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm great, And I just got to say. I know
it's your show, so I don't want to jump in
and take control, but I got to tell you you
did a fu.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I know it's your show, but I'm going to take
it over. Go right ahead, Sean, take right over. Your
name is Sean, so you're halfway there.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
That's what I'm thinking, you know, But I'll tell you, Sean.
I know you won't say it for yourself, but I
thought you did a great job. Too often, the moderator
becomes the story you did something that I just you
brought a Democrat from a blue state who knew how
well you do your job. And that's what I just
I cannot tell you the guy who's been involved in
these debates and these forums now for over a decade,
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you exemplified what's supposed to happen. Tee up an issue,
throw out some facts, and let the candidates go at it.
And this is a model. And the funny thing is
you said at the top of the debate, you know,
here's what my biases are, and here's whatever. But this
is what I did it, and it was better than
any of these people who fake that they're a journalists.
I just I cannot commend you enough for how well
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you did that. And it speaks volumes to you and
your years in this business that Gavin knwsome and I
give him credit for showing up, but more than him
showing up, it speaks volumes to you that he said,
you know what, I can go on Sean Hannity and
he'll treat me fair. And I think everybody got it
from the jump that your conservative credentials are impeccable, but
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you are somebody that people can trust to come in
and have a fair discussion and debate the issues, and
so I just i someone, like I said, who's been
involved in this for a while.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I really cut look coming from you, I mean that
means a lot to me.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
And you've always been a dear friend.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I'll tell you one thing that I think people are
uncomfortable with if they're moderating. And because I started radio
in nineteen eighty seven, not that I want to age
myself here, so it's not my first rodeo. And I've
moderated so many debates over the years on radio. And
one of the things that I always that I've learned
to do, that I've gotten better at, is to try
and let and let a debate breathe.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
And if the.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Participants are just a little bit cooperative, they don't have
to be a lot cooperative. A little bit cooperative. What
I have noticed is the debate can take on a
whole energy of its own. Occasionally have to step in
and say, guys, one at a time.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Please.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
At one point I was going to say, don't turn
me into person A, person B or person C.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I decided not to take the shot.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I don't know, maybe I'm getting a little weak in
my old age, or I just you know, what's the point.
Why don't I want to start more fights? I have
enough enemies in life, right.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
But it was fun to.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Do, interesting, I think, very revealing, and you know, we
do have this phenomenon, Sean, that is real. I mean,
people are leaving California, they're leaving New York, they're leaving Illinois,
they're leaving New Jersey, and they're flocking to Tennessee, the Carolinas,
They're they're flocking to Florida, Texas in numbers we've never
seen before. There's a mass migration of American citizens. And
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I think there's a good reason for it.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
There is, And I think the thing that was interesting
is that when you put that question to Gavin Newsom,
you just put up the statistics, the numbers from the
Census Bureau, and he refused to acknowledge the migration from
his state to Florida and Texas and the Montana, et cetera.
And I think that was telly. And that's why I
love the debate is because here's a statistic, here's a question,
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Now answer it. And his avoidance of that spoke volumes.
So I actually I love the way that it was
laid out and you really revealed who these individuals were
in terms of Desantus and Newsome, whether or not they
wanted to own their own record and back up, you know,
the reality of what's happening in each of their states.
And so I found it interesting because what I think
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is important these debates is giving them, like you said,
an opportunity to breathe to lay out their case. And
when DeSantis spoke, he backed everything up and said, this
is what we did in Florida, this is the result
that it's having. And then when Newsome did it, he
refused to talk about his own state and he would
put it back on Disantas and make some disparage in common,
but he didn't want to own his own record, and
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I thought that was so revealing.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You know, it's there's such a difference, I mean, diametrically
opposed governing philosophies. And I've asked this question before and
I'd love for you to weigh in on it. How
do you possibly reconcile with those that believe in defund
dismantle no bail laws or quote reimagining the police. Let's
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send in shrinks instead of cops that are armed to
deal with people that have mental health issues. Well, people
with mental health issues often can be very violent. That
could be a very scary situation. Or you know, and
those that believe in law and order, how do you
reconcile sanctuary states and open borders versus law and order
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and secure borders. How do you reconcile the understanding that
the lifeblood of the world's economy is oil, gas, and
coal with those that want green energy now, regardless of
what the cost is and regardless of whether or not
the technology is available. I don't see any middle ground.
People always say, well, you know, let's find some middle ground.
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Tell me what the middle ground is, because I don't
see it. You know, I know there's a No Labels
party that is serious about bringing in a presidential contender. Okay,
what is their platform going to be a hodgepodge of
you know, the left and the right, and nobody will
know what they stand for on any given issue.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I have no idea what they could possibly run on.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, they can't. It's interesting. On my podcast today, I
had a former Obama administration official and I said to them,
I will let's play a game. In thirty seconds, I
will tell you why I'm supporting the Republicans and President Trump. Right,
So here's what happened for four years in foreign policy
and then a domestic policy. The border or secure taxes
were lower, employment rates were lower across the board. Okay,
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now you go, give me thirty seconds of what has
happened under Biden. And they said, well, you know what
the problem is their trumping. They said, no, no, thirty seconds.
Tell me something positive in the Biden mistressue, just give you.
I gave you thirty seconds of Trump. Give me one
positive thing of Biden. And they can't. And that gets
to the nut of what you're asking. None of these
people want to defend their policies. They don't want to
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live under their policies. They want to philosophize about why
the cops should be defunded. And you say, okay, will
you live in that city?
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Will you live and.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You know, do you want to be coverab Well, not me,
but it's okay for everyone else to live there. It's
the same thing with all the folks that argue about
climate change. They don't want to They want to take
their own private planes, they want to travel the way
they do. It's just everybody else should be on a
carbon neutral bus powered by green energy. They don't want
to live under the policies that they espouse. And that's
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the big difference between the right and the left now,
whether it's foreign policy or domestic policy. They want to
tell everyone else how to live. But when you ask
those various same people, will you live by the policies
that you espoused, they immediately would try to change the subject.
And that's the difference. And you heard that in the
debate that you had with the Santas and Newsom. Newsom
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didn't want to own his policies. He wanted to talk
about Florida and all these other random things in the
Biden administration. He won't do that.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And that's my favorite was if Gavin, can you answer
the question?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
No, I'll get to that.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I think he used that line on me at least
four times.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
But again after I go it back once twice or
even a third time. And somebody's not going to answer
a question, I've learned, they're never going to answer it right.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
And that's the thing. But that's my point is that
it's not just Gavin Newsom, it's any Democrat. Ask them
name one thing that Biden has done that you're of
and you can't. They'll say, well, under Trump, no, no, no,
name one thing that you are proud of that the
Biden administration has, and you will never get an answer
because they can't. I can list off, probably go for
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much more than thirty seconds, a minute, maybe two minutes,
of things that President Trump did domestically and internationally. They
kept us safer, more prosperous, etc. And all I can
keep going. They can't do the same. And it's because
their policies are indefensible. And that is the big difference
that we face right now, and every time that we
highlight that, whether it's the debate that you have or
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any of these other interactions, Like I said, I did
it for two minutes on my podcast today, that you
can't that the less can't do it because they're not
proud of the policies and they don't want to defend them.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
All Right, quick break more with our friend Sewn Spicer
on the other side, as we continue from Davenport, Iowa,
the site of tonight's town hall with former President Donald Trump.
That's all happening nine eastern tonight on Hannity. Then we'll
get to your calls. Eight hundred and nine to four
to one, Shawn our number. If you'd like to check in.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
With us today.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
We continue now Davenport, Iowa, with our friend Sean Spicer,
who's with us. What I have said over the years,
and I believe this with all my heart, or else,
why would I believe the things that I believe. I
have been a consistent, solid Conservative all these years I
have been on the air. My value system I've gotten
a little smarter. My value system is not changed. The
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principles that I believe in have not changed. I stand
by that conservatism is by far the best ideology governing philosophy.
It's one of that is predicated on freedom, limited government.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Less taxation, less regulation.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
One that believes in the power of the individual and
stays out of the way, that believes in a strong
national defense, peace through strength, free and fair trade deals,
secure borders, law and order, safety, Security is a prerequisite
to pursue happiness. Constitutionalists on the bench, not people that
legislate from the bench. I don't think conservatism is that complicated.
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If I can explain it in a minute, every conservative
ought to be able to explain it in a minute.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That's right, But that's the difference between the right and
the left. You and I can sit here and espouse
our conservative principles. We can back them up, we can
point to examples, and we're proud of them, and we're
unwavering on them. When the left does things, they don't
want to defend it, they don't want to back it up.
They pivot, they off, you skate. You saw them in
the debate that you had that they don't want to
own their own policies. And that's the fundamental difference. I
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will fight for our policies every day of the week.
I will want to live under them. Will you know
I will abide by them, etc. The left will tell
you why everybody else should live under their policies, but
they don't want to do themselves.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
And you brought it.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I got brought up to the debate. Youson brought it up.
The French laundry incident. Right, So here's COVID California locks down.
But Gavin Newsen says, no, no, no, not for me.
I get to go out to dinner where I want.
I get to live by a separate set of rules.
And that's continuously whereas we as on the conservatives say hey,
we don't want to be lockdown. We want to be free,
and we espouse the same principles that we would want
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to live by, and that is the fundamental difference between
the two sides.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
You know, it was interesting when I interviewed him one
on one, and by the way, I made a promise
to him going into that interview, not about any questions
or topics or anything like that. I just said, I
will give you time uninterrupted to answer the question, rather
than just sit there and he speaks, you know, four words.
I know he's not answering the question and just jump
down his throat. That was the only reason why I
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think he was willing to do this debate, and I
tried to do that. I just think I don't think
the left has the arguments that the American people want. However,
what they're really good at is that they're much better
at the game of politics than Republicans are. And by
that they'll they'll pull out their playbook that they do
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every two years, every four years, although now it seems
like almost every day, which is Republicans are racist, that
they are sexist, that they're misogynists, they're homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic, transphobic,
they want dirty air and water, and they want to
kill your grandmother, kill your grandfather and throw them over
a cliff and that. And by the way, they're maga Republicans.
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That's scary word, Maga Republicans. And that's basically the platform
they're going to run on. They are not going to
want this election to be about Joe Biden's record. If
it was Gavin Newsom running, they would he would not
want the election to be about California's record.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
And then the other thing that they're good at.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
To be honest, they're doing a lot better job when
it comes to voting, early voting by mail. I know
Ronald McDaniel has started, you know, bank your vote. That's
part of what needs to be done. The second part
of it needs to be legal ballot harvesting. Democrats are
great at that. Also Republicans are and even in that game.
And lastly, I think state legislatures, especially run by Republicans,
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you know, they have dropped the ball when it comes
to integrity issues with voting, and that means voter IDs,
signature verification, chain of custody, command controls, updated voter roles,
partisan observers watching the voting all day and the vote
counting all night, and I don't think Republicans have done
a good enough job making sure we put integrity measures
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in place, by the way, which benefits every side. I mean,
why are people against voter id I'll give you the
last word, not just.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
That, but why are people Why are we having to
negotiate border security when we know that people on the
Terrist watchlister coming in that sentanels pouring over the Southern board.
Why is that something that we have to negotiate with Democrats?
The idea that that is not a universe or principle
of every American, but it just again it shows you
where they're at. I agree with everything you said, the
idea that voter integrity is not a universal principle, that
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we should know that one person, one ballot is something
that we all agree on. Unless you have some kind
of alter ulterior motive, then you should be on board
on all that. And that just goes to their motives.
But I'm with you one hundred percent again, I would
just my last word is this, congratulations on another great
job done. This is a guide as I'm down here
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in Tuscaloosa for this debate, and I think everybody should
have to watch how you handled yourself and say that's
how a moderator does their job. Good job, Sean Handed.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
And you know why I know I didn't do a
horrible job is you know there are one or two articles,
sweet baby James pointed out, But I didn't get the
crap kicked out of me.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Trust me if I screwed up or one of my.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
We we did so much fact checking ahead of that
debate to make sure everything was factual. I said at
the beginning of that debate it would be a fact
base debate had I gotten one thing wrong, I promise
you the entire country would know by now. Shawn Spice
appreciate it as always, my friend, God bless you. Thank you, sir.
Eight hundred and ninety four one. Sewn you want to
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be a part of the program. We are in Davenport.
We're in beautiful Iowa. I wish it was a little warmer,
but the people are awesome. They have warm hearts, the
heart and soul of our country, and the people here
are wonderful. I've been coming here, you know, for every
presidential election, and it's always an honor to meet the
good folks here. Anyway, I look forward to seeing many
of you tonight. Quick break right back your calls on
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the other side. Straight ahead, just about what three hours
and twenty five minutes from right about now, we will
be starting our town hall. We're in Davenport, Iowa with
former President Donald Trump. Looking forward to seeing many of
you tonight, and tickets are free, by the way, Hannity
dot com. If you're in New York, we have audience
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shows tomorrow and Thursday night.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Again, tickets are free.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
You know, people, does anyone believe me when I say,
oh no, there are a million dollars apiece. I hope
people figure out that's a joke. If you can't figure
out that's a joke, you can't You cannot be a
listener to the show.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Certain basic fundamentals have to apply that qualif five for listening.
Just kidding anyway, We're in beautiful Davenport. We're having a
great time. Everybody we've met here, it could not be nicer.
I mean, it's it's so refreshing whenever you get out
of New York, how much nicer people are in the country.
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I can't explain it. Now New York they're just not
that nice. Now, my friends are nice. The people that
I work with are nice. Linda has her days, but
you know, putting that little aspect of it aside.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
But the rest of the country doesn't need to ride
the subway.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
The rest of the country, doesn't it true?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
You know, I wouldn't want to ride the subway with you,
to be honest, you look so mean down there.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Listen, let me tell you something. That face has saved
me a lot of problems because they look around the subway,
they look for who's on their phone, who's not paying attention,
and then they see me and I'm eyes wide open,
I'm looking right back at them.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
I'm like, go ahead, and they make the sense they
see me.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
And by the way, Linda looked at the temperature in
Iowa today and said, I think Blair is going to
go today. And sweet baby James right by the way,
and I said, what did I say? I said, no problem.
I said, you never have to travel ever. You got
a beautiful seven year old son. He's like my adopted nephew,
love Liam. Nobody's bought more trains. Nobody bought him more trains,
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and Uncle Sean. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
I've been able to manage being a good mom and
a good employee. So I think I'm doing okay.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I'm not going to blair. Am I complaining?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
What did I say? I didn't I say? Over and
over again, I'm good. I'm glad you stayed home.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
So this is what happens when you two travel alone.
You start to side with one another. Because that's the problem.
That's not going to be allowed.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Linda, help, Linda, help, help with what I'm being nice?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Can't handle this one, I'm nice. Why can't you just
accept that, you know, we're perfectly happy.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Because I don't want the audience to think that as
a working mom unable to balance.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
While I appreciate it, sounds like a California snowflake right now.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
I don't drink Coco or color anymore, so that's not
even an option.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Second of all, she drinks that disgusting I dream green machines, projectiles, vomit, puke,
shake of yours.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
Well, yeah, sometimes you need to do it on you know.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Now sometimes I've lived my whole life without that that puke,
green vomit to whatever you And now.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
You're eating kale and broccoli, so you're dang close.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I don't eat kale I will eat broccol. You're so
full of crap. You totally do.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
I've seen you eat kale chips.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Go ahead, think about It's not.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
That on me because I have no recollection of eating
at it.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
On the plane, and I told you do not eat
that on an airplane.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
We didn't. I would have known. I wouldn't have touched.
I bet you I didn't like it, did I?
Speaker 6 (18:43):
You said it was better than you thought it needed salts?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I noticed creeen.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Jean Pierre had a hard time commenting and refused to
comment on Congresswoman Giapaul's comments on rape.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Listen to this.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
Do you think the representative needs to clarify her remarks?
So look, I'm going to let the representative speak for herself.
I just can't speak for her. I speak for the
President of the United States. I am the White House
Press Secretary obviously, So that's who I speak for and
what I can say. And I said this in Sarah's
question when I answered it, which is it is when
it comes to rape, that's reprehensible. When it comes to
using rape as a weapon of war, that's reprehensible. We
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are very very clear about denouncing Hamas's actions and that's
what the President has been clear about, and that's as administration.
More broadly, we're going to continue to.
Speaker 8 (19:33):
Think because of her perch, though as a progressive leader,
she should clarify her remarks.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
I speak for the president, she has to speak for herself.
We have been very, very progressively, very clear. Anyway, the
word progressive is a misnomer.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Well, she's the chair of the Progressive Call Create Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Now, if it was about MAGA Republicans, I guarantee Colleen
Jean Pierre would have a lot more to say. Let's
go to Marshall. He's in South Carolina. Next eight hundred
and ninety four one, Shawn on number as we continue
from Davenport, Iowa.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
What's going on? How are you, Marshall? Glad you called.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Good afternoon, Sewan, Thanks for taking the call. I'm a
fan when I listen, and I just had a question.
I heard you mentioning on the radio yesterday that no
one could assume to know the outcome of an election.
Now not knowing the outcome, but wanting to get some
insight on what the lead up to the election is
in small community circles, unaligned circles, no real party affiliation.
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The buzz that I've heard is that how does President
Trump's name get so much airplay in the conversation at
this time, with party posturing leading up to caucuses and
debates and things of the sort. How does he survive
legal hurdles and keep his momentum feeding up to any election.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Listen, you're raising questions that I can't answer, and I
don't think anybody else can answer either. I can give
you my best educated guess, but we won't know in
eleven months from now, which is when we'll be voting.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I don't know what the driving issues will be.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
What state will the economy be in, what state will
Joe Biden's mightn't be in? Will Joe Biden even be
on the ticket at that point? What impact will these
criminal trials have on President Trump? What about the possible
impeachment of Joe Biden? What impact would that have on
the country. So I just think there are so many
issues out there. What is going to happen on the
world stage. What's going on with China, what will they
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do with Taiwan, What's going on with Ukraine and Russia
and more in Europe? What's going on with the war
in the Middle East and Israel and Amas and maybe
his Ballah, maybe the Huti rebels, and maybe Iran at
some point. You know, God only knows what they're capable
of doing. So I don't think I can intelligently really
give you an answer except to say that, you know,
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these are times unlike any I've ever seen before. I've
been telling friends and I mean it, and no one
passed elections I've said it, so maybe it sounds like,
you know, I just say it every election season. I
have never felt this concerned about the future direction of
our country. I can tell you that that is a fact.
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I have never in my life felt this concern about
the world and what's going on in the world.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Either.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
This is what the world looks like when America abdicates
its role on the world stage as the world's leader.
This is what it looks like the economy. I worry
about the sixty plus percent of Americans living paycheck to paycheck,
And of that sixty some odd percent, a significant portion
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of people, you know what, they're having to borrow money
just to get bare necessities. You know, they're putting, they're
building up credit card debt that I don't think they're
ever going to be able to pay back or cashing
in pensions that you know, with massive penalties just to
make ends meet every month. I don't know when the
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housing market comes back, don't know the impact on inflation
and interest rates. I mean, these are all things that
concern me. And you know, maybe one of the best
things I think that God did for me in my
life is for twenty years of my life I did
real work. I won't regurgitate every job I had, but
ten years in the restaurant business, ten years in the
construction business. And I'm just telling you that I know
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what it's like to live paycheck to paycheck, and it
kind of sucks.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
There's a lot of pressure on you.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And you know, to have that pressure when you have
a family, you know, makes it ten times harder, a
thousand times harder because now you have to take care
of other people, and that's what people are living through.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Look.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I live in a fairly i'd say, upper middle class,
affluent town, and I can tell you that two of
my best friends, they donate their time and they help
out at the local food pantry. And I always tell them,
whenever you guys are up against you know, get in
trouble or you need more money, and you're really as
I said, anytime you get to that point, just come
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to me. And they have come to me a number
of times, by the way, which I want them to do.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
And you know, I went down one time and I just.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Could not believe the number is a sheer number of
people that were online just to get the bare necessities,
just to get food. Now, in one case, you'd see
people that had actually pretty nice cars, and you see
in some cases and you would think, well, they must
be taking advantage.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
They weren't taken advantage.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
But what had happened is they assumed things would stay
the same.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
They assumed that they'd be able to.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Afford their home, their insurance, the school for their kids,
clothes for their kids, their car payment. They were making
ends meet, they were probably even saving a little bit
of money. But Joe's economy has sent them reeling to
a point they can't they can't meet a budget any longer. Well,
a lot of those people end up probably selling those
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cars and buying cheaper cars. Yeah, but then they weren't
taking advantage of anybody. They're they're desperate and I'm hearing
that or anecdotes anecdotes like that from friends all around
the country. So there's so much that will happen between
now and them, and I'll tell you that it's pretty scary. Anyway,
I appreciate the call, Marshall. God bless you, buddy. Let's
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see what happens. Let's say hi to John in Virginia,
the Commonwealth of Virginia.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
John, Hi, how are you glad you called?
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Hey? Sean, how you doing?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Welcome to Davenport. What's going on?
Speaker 4 (25:36):
All right?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
So?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I just wanted to know your opinion on Trump's campaign
sactic of avoiding the R and C debates and do
you think it would have benefit him come twenty twenty
four and earning the elections.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
You know, look, there's two schools have thought.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
If I put on what I would prefer to watch,
of course I'd rather watch Donald Trump. That debate is
going to be a hell of a lot more interesting
if he's there. Do I think if I was his
political advisors and I'm looking at polls one after another
after another after another that show him with a significant lead,
do I think the advice that I would give him
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would be, Yeah, go throw yourself in the arena so
they can beat the crap out of you for an
hour and a half, two hours and not expect that.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
You know, what's the upside for him?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
You always got to ask upside downside, what is the
upside for him to show up?
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Tell me, well, honestly, he's been doing really good, to
be honest with. He's up in the polls. And I mean,
you know, as they say, the more you would tag
Donald Trump, the stronger he seems to get. Well, it
seems like he's been holding up pretty well. Without going
into the dates, it seemed like it wouldn't be doing
many good show up.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Listen, he has defied, as I've said many times, do
he defies all conventional political gravity. If somebody, if a
candidate got arrested, indicted, and arraigned, you would think their
poll numbers go down. Nope, his go up. He made
a comment recently it's kind of glib and he's like,
I'm just one arrest short of being guaranteed victory in November.
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I mean, it's kind of funny. Eight hundred nine four one,
Shawn is our number. Let's say hi to Tony in California. Tony,
how are you hey?
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Sean?
Speaker 8 (27:14):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I can hear you what's going on? Welcome to Davenport, Iowa.
Speaker 8 (27:17):
First of all, I've been listening to you forever.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
I mean, thank you.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
I Uh.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
The debate the other night cracked me up because let's
just say that I drive a heavy equipment tractor on
the roads down in LA for a company, oh wow,
working down here over twenty years. And after listening to Newsom,
I wish I could have just a word with him
because I've watched the progression. I watched the homeless when
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it started. I watched the road, the roads and everything,
and it's getting worse, and it's we're headed down to
bad path and everything he says, I realize, unfortunately, I
think he's not always telling the truth, and he's pledging
the numbers. Because the freeway thing with the high freeway
ten catching up, Sean, I've been driving under that road
for the last twenty years to get on the freeway,
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and I see all the homeless stint, all the junk
and everything, and it hasn't been monitoring in surprise, surprise,
a fire star. So it just blows my mind. And
I listened to Richard Kyleie the other day at the
US House Representative of course. I don't know if you
saw that Sean where he did a blistering fact check
of Governor Newsom on the House floor and just completely
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blew him out of the waters. And I'm not surprised
at all.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I appreciate the call. God bless you, sir. Thank you
for your kind words. It means a lot. Thanks for
being out there. That's going to wrap things up for today.
Many many thanks to our friends here in Davenport, Iowa.
And really looking forward to seeing all of you tonight
nine Eastern Sey you DVR Hannity on the Fox News Channel.
It's going to be a great town hall former President
Donald Trump. We haven't done one with him in a while,
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looking forward to it tonight. We've got a lot to
talk about director race testimony. On top of everything else,
Iowa caucuses right around the corner, primaries, polls, what he
is running on, what his plan for another term would
look like, what he thinks about what's happening economically, what
he thinks about what's happening around the world, how he
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would be handling things different. Anyway, We'll see you to
night at nine. Back here tomorrow Hannity dot Com. Tickets
are free. If you want to go to the TV
show Wednesday Thursday night. Thank you for being with us,
and thank you for making this show possible.
All right, news, round up, information, overload, hour, toll free.
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Our numbers eight hundred and nine to four one Shawn.
If you want to be a part of the program.
Coming to you from beautiful Davenport, Iowa. Tonight, we have
our town hall with former President Trump. As we now
get ever closer to the all important Iowa caucuses, we're
still getting a lot of reaction feedback to the debate
that took place last Thursday between Governor Rondo Santis and
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Governor Gavin Newsom. Our friend Sewn Spicer commented a lot
on it, joining us. Now, our friend Sewn Spicer is
back with us. Sir, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm great, And I just got to say. I know
it's your show, so I don't want to jump in
and take control, but I got to tell you you
did a fu.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I know it's your show, but I'm going to take
it over. Go right ahead, Sean, take right over. Your
name is Sean, so you're halfway there.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
That's what I'm thinking, you know, But I'll tell you, Sean.
I know you won't say it for yourself, but I
thought you did a great job. Too often, the moderator
becomes the story you did something that I just you
brought a Democrat from a blue state who knew how
well you do your job. And that's what I just
I cannot tell you the guy who's been involved in
these debates and these forums now for over a decade,
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you exemplified what's supposed to happen. Tee up an issue,
throw out some facts, and let the candidates go at it.
And this is a model. And the funny thing is
you said at the top of the debate, you know,
here's what my biases are, and here's whatever. But this
is what I did it, and it was better than
any of these people who fake that they're a journalists.
I just I cannot commend you enough for how well
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you did that. And it speaks volumes to you and
your years in this business that Gavin knwsome and I
give him credit for showing up, but more than him
showing up, it speaks volumes to you that he said,
you know what, I can go on Sean Hannity and
he'll treat me fair. And I think everybody got it
from the jump that your conservative credentials are impeccable, but
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you are somebody that people can trust to come in
and have a fair discussion and debate the issues, and
so I just i someone, like I said, who's been
involved in this for a while.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I really cut look coming from you, I mean that
means a lot to me.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
And you've always been a dear friend.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I'll tell you one thing that I think people are
uncomfortable with if they're moderating. And because I started radio
in nineteen eighty seven, not that I want to age
myself here, so it's not my first rodeo. And I've
moderated so many debates over the years on radio. And
one of the things that I always that I've learned
to do, that I've gotten better at, is to try
and let and let a debate breathe.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
And if the.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Participants are just a little bit cooperative, they don't have
to be a lot cooperative. A little bit cooperative. What
I have noticed is the debate can take on a
whole energy of its own. Occasionally have to step in
and say, guys, one at a time.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Please.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
At one point I was going to say, don't turn
me into person A, person B or person C.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I decided not to take the shot.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I don't know, maybe I'm getting a little weak in
my old age, or I just you know, what's the point.
Why don't I want to start more fights? I have
enough enemies in life, right.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
But it was fun to.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Do, interesting, I think, very revealing, and you know, we
do have this phenomenon, Sean, that is real. I mean,
people are leaving California, they're leaving New York, they're leaving Illinois,
they're leaving New Jersey, and they're flocking to Tennessee, the Carolinas,
They're they're flocking to Florida, Texas in numbers we've never
seen before. There's a mass migration of American citizens. And
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I think there's a good reason for it.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
There is, And I think the thing that was interesting
is that when you put that question to Gavin Newsom,
you just put up the statistics, the numbers from the
Census Bureau, and he refused to acknowledge the migration from
his state to Florida and Texas and the Montana, et cetera.
And I think that was telly. And that's why I
love the debate is because here's a statistic, here's a question,
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Now answer it. And his avoidance of that spoke volumes.
So I actually I love the way that it was
laid out and you really revealed who these individuals were
in terms of Desantus and Newsome, whether or not they
wanted to own their own record and back up, you know,
the reality of what's happening in each of their states.
And so I found it interesting because what I think
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is important these debates is giving them, like you said,
an opportunity to breathe to lay out their case. And
when DeSantis spoke, he backed everything up and said, this
is what we did in Florida, this is the result
that it's having. And then when Newsome did it, he
refused to talk about his own state and he would
put it back on Disantas and make some disparage in common,
but he didn't want to own his own record, and
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I thought that was so revealing.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You know, it's there's such a difference, I mean, diametrically
opposed governing philosophies. And I've asked this question before and
I'd love for you to weigh in on it. How
do you possibly reconcile with those that believe in defund
dismantle no bail laws or quote reimagining the police. Let's
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send in shrinks instead of cops that are armed to
deal with people that have mental health issues. Well, people
with mental health issues often can be very violent. That
could be a very scary situation. Or you know, and
those that believe in law and order, how do you
reconcile sanctuary states and open borders versus law and order
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and secure borders. How do you reconcile the understanding that
the lifeblood of the world's economy is oil, gas, and
coal with those that want green energy now, regardless of
what the cost is and regardless of whether or not
the technology is available. I don't see any middle ground.
People always say, well, you know, let's find some middle ground.
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Tell me what the middle ground is, because I don't
see it. You know, I know there's a No Labels
party that is serious about bringing in a presidential contender. Okay,
what is their platform going to be a hodgepodge of
you know, the left and the right, and nobody will
know what they stand for on any given issue.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I have no idea what they could possibly run on.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, they can't. It's interesting. On my podcast today, I
had a former Obama administration official and I said to them,
I will let's play a game. In thirty seconds, I
will tell you why I'm supporting the Republicans and President Trump. Right,
So here's what happened for four years in foreign policy
and then a domestic policy. The border or secure taxes
were lower, employment rates were lower across the board. Okay,
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now you go, give me thirty seconds of what has
happened under Biden. And they said, well, you know what
the problem is their trumping. They said, no, no, thirty seconds.
Tell me something positive in the Biden mistressue, just give you.
I gave you thirty seconds of Trump. Give me one
positive thing of Biden. And they can't. And that gets
to the nut of what you're asking. None of these
people want to defend their policies. They don't want to
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live under their policies. They want to philosophize about why
the cops should be defunded. And you say, okay, will
you live in that city?
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Will you live and.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You know, do you want to be coverab Well, not me,
but it's okay for everyone else to live there. It's
the same thing with all the folks that argue about
climate change. They don't want to They want to take
their own private planes, they want to travel the way
they do. It's just everybody else should be on a
carbon neutral bus powered by green energy. They don't want
to live under the policies that they espouse. And that's
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the big difference between the right and the left now,
whether it's foreign policy or domestic policy. They want to
tell everyone else how to live. But when you ask
those various same people, will you live by the policies
that you espoused, they immediately would try to change the subject.
And that's the difference. And you heard that in the
debate that you had with the Santas and Newsom. Newsom
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didn't want to own his policies. He wanted to talk
about Florida and all these other random things in the
Biden administration. He won't do that.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And that's my favorite was if Gavin, can you answer
the question?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
No, I'll get to that.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I think he used that line on me at least
four times.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
But again after I go it back once twice or
even a third time. And somebody's not going to answer
a question, I've learned, they're never going to answer it right.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
And that's the thing. But that's my point is that
it's not just Gavin Newsom, it's any Democrat. Ask them
name one thing that Biden has done that you're of
and you can't. They'll say, well, under Trump, no, no, no,
name one thing that you are proud of that the
Biden administration has, and you will never get an answer
because they can't. I can list off, probably go for
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much more than thirty seconds, a minute, maybe two minutes,
of things that President Trump did domestically and internationally. They
kept us safer, more prosperous, etc. And all I can
keep going. They can't do the same. And it's because
their policies are indefensible. And that is the big difference
that we face right now, and every time that we
highlight that, whether it's the debate that you have or
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any of these other interactions, Like I said, I did
it for two minutes on my podcast today, that you
can't that the less can't do it because they're not
proud of the policies and they don't want to defend them.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
All Right, quick break more with our friend Sewn Spicer
on the other side, as we continue from Davenport, Iowa,
the site of tonight's town hall with former President Donald Trump.
That's all happening nine eastern tonight on Hannity. Then we'll
get to your calls. Eight hundred and nine to four
to one, Shawn our number. If you'd like to check in.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
With us today.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
We continue now Davenport, Iowa, with our friend Sean Spicer,
who's with us. What I have said over the years,
and I believe this with all my heart, or else,
why would I believe the things that I believe. I
have been a consistent, solid Conservative all these years I
have been on the air. My value system I've gotten
a little smarter. My value system is not changed. The
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principles that I believe in have not changed. I stand
by that conservatism is by far the best ideology governing philosophy.
It's one of that is predicated on freedom, limited government.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Less taxation, less regulation.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
One that believes in the power of the individual and
stays out of the way, that believes in a strong
national defense, peace through strength, free and fair trade deals,
secure borders, law and order, safety, Security is a prerequisite
to pursue happiness. Constitutionalists on the bench, not people that
legislate from the bench. I don't think conservatism is that complicated.
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If I can explain it in a minute, every conservative
ought to be able to explain it in a minute.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That's right, But that's the difference between the right and
the left. You and I can sit here and espouse
our conservative principles. We can back them up, we can
point to examples, and we're proud of them, and we're
unwavering on them. When the left does things, they don't
want to defend it, they don't want to back it up.
They pivot, they off, you skate. You saw them in
the debate that you had that they don't want to
own their own policies. And that's the fundamental difference. I
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will fight for our policies every day of the week.
I will want to live under them. Will you know
I will abide by them, etc. The left will tell
you why everybody else should live under their policies, but
they don't want to do themselves.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
And you brought it.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I got brought up to the debate. Youson brought it up.
The French laundry incident. Right, So here's COVID California locks down.
But Gavin Newsen says, no, no, no, not for me.
I get to go out to dinner where I want.
I get to live by a separate set of rules.
And that's continuously whereas we as on the conservatives say hey,
we don't want to be lockdown. We want to be free,
and we espouse the same principles that we would want
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to live by, and that is the fundamental difference between
the two sides.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
You know, it was interesting when I interviewed him one
on one, and by the way, I made a promise
to him going into that interview, not about any questions
or topics or anything like that. I just said, I
will give you time uninterrupted to answer the question, rather
than just sit there and he speaks, you know, four words.
I know he's not answering the question and just jump
down his throat. That was the only reason why I
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think he was willing to do this debate, and I
tried to do that. I just think I don't think
the left has the arguments that the American people want. However,
what they're really good at is that they're much better
at the game of politics than Republicans are. And by
that they'll they'll pull out their playbook that they do
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every two years, every four years, although now it seems
like almost every day, which is Republicans are racist, that
they are sexist, that they're misogynists, they're homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic, transphobic,
they want dirty air and water, and they want to
kill your grandmother, kill your grandfather and throw them over
a cliff and that. And by the way, they're maga Republicans.
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That's scary word, Maga Republicans. And that's basically the platform
they're going to run on. They are not going to
want this election to be about Joe Biden's record. If
it was Gavin Newsom running, they would he would not
want the election to be about California's record.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
And then the other thing that they're good at.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
To be honest, they're doing a lot better job when
it comes to voting, early voting by mail. I know
Ronald McDaniel has started, you know, bank your vote. That's
part of what needs to be done. The second part
of it needs to be legal ballot harvesting. Democrats are
great at that. Also Republicans are and even in that game.
And lastly, I think state legislatures, especially run by Republicans,
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you know, they have dropped the ball when it comes
to integrity issues with voting, and that means voter IDs,
signature verification, chain of custody, command controls, updated voter roles,
partisan observers watching the voting all day and the vote
counting all night, and I don't think Republicans have done
a good enough job making sure we put integrity measures
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in place, by the way, which benefits every side. I mean,
why are people against voter id I'll give you the
last word, not just.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
That, but why are people Why are we having to
negotiate border security when we know that people on the
Terrist watchlister coming in that sentanels pouring over the Southern board.
Why is that something that we have to negotiate with Democrats?
The idea that that is not a universe or principle
of every American, but it just again it shows you
where they're at. I agree with everything you said, the
idea that voter integrity is not a universal principle, that
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we should know that one person, one ballot is something
that we all agree on. Unless you have some kind
of alter ulterior motive, then you should be on board
on all that. And that just goes to their motives.
But I'm with you one hundred percent again, I would
just my last word is this, congratulations on another great
job done. This is a guide as I'm down here
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in Tuscaloosa for this debate, and I think everybody should
have to watch how you handled yourself and say that's
how a moderator does their job. Good job, Sean Handed.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
And you know why I know I didn't do a
horrible job is you know there are one or two articles,
sweet baby James pointed out, But I didn't get the
crap kicked out of me.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Trust me if I screwed up or one of my.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
We we did so much fact checking ahead of that
debate to make sure everything was factual. I said at
the beginning of that debate it would be a fact
base debate had I gotten one thing wrong, I promise
you the entire country would know by now. Shawn Spice
appreciate it as always, my friend, God bless you. Thank you, sir.
Eight hundred and ninety four one. Sewn you want to
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be a part of the program. We are in Davenport.
We're in beautiful Iowa. I wish it was a little warmer,
but the people are awesome. They have warm hearts, the
heart and soul of our country, and the people here
are wonderful. I've been coming here, you know, for every
presidential election, and it's always an honor to meet the
good folks here. Anyway, I look forward to seeing many
of you tonight. Quick break right back your calls on
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the other side. Straight ahead, just about what three hours
and twenty five minutes from right about now, we will
be starting our town hall. We're in Davenport, Iowa with
former President Donald Trump. Looking forward to seeing many of
you tonight, and tickets are free, by the way, Hannity
dot com. If you're in New York, we have audience
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shows tomorrow and Thursday night.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Again, tickets are free.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
You know, people, does anyone believe me when I say,
oh no, there are a million dollars apiece. I hope
people figure out that's a joke. If you can't figure
out that's a joke, you can't You cannot be a
listener to the show.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Certain basic fundamentals have to apply that qualif five for listening.
Just kidding anyway, We're in beautiful Davenport. We're having a
great time. Everybody we've met here, it could not be nicer.
I mean, it's it's so refreshing whenever you get out
of New York, how much nicer people are in the country.
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I can't explain it. Now New York they're just not
that nice. Now, my friends are nice. The people that
I work with are nice. Linda has her days, but
you know, putting that little aspect of it aside.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
But the rest of the country doesn't need to ride
the subway.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
The rest of the country, doesn't it true?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
You know, I wouldn't want to ride the subway with you,
to be honest, you look so mean down there.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Listen, let me tell you something. That face has saved
me a lot of problems because they look around the subway,
they look for who's on their phone, who's not paying attention,
and then they see me and I'm eyes wide open,
I'm looking right back at them.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
I'm like, go ahead, and they make the sense they
see me.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
And by the way, Linda looked at the temperature in
Iowa today and said, I think Blair is going to
go today. And sweet baby James right by the way,
and I said, what did I say? I said, no problem.
I said, you never have to travel ever. You got
a beautiful seven year old son. He's like my adopted nephew,
love Liam. Nobody's bought more trains. Nobody bought him more trains,
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and Uncle Sean. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
I've been able to manage being a good mom and
a good employee. So I think I'm doing okay.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I'm not going to blair. Am I complaining?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
What did I say? I didn't I say? Over and
over again, I'm good. I'm glad you stayed home.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
So this is what happens when you two travel alone.
You start to side with one another. Because that's the problem.
That's not going to be allowed.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Linda, help, Linda, help, help with what I'm being nice?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Can't handle this one, I'm nice. Why can't you just
accept that, you know, we're perfectly happy.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Because I don't want the audience to think that as
a working mom unable to balance.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
While I appreciate it, sounds like a California snowflake right now.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
I don't drink Coco or color anymore, so that's not
even an option.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Second of all, she drinks that disgusting I dream green machines, projectiles, vomit, puke,
shake of yours.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
Well, yeah, sometimes you need to do it on you know.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Now sometimes I've lived my whole life without that that puke,
green vomit to whatever you And now.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
You're eating kale and broccoli, so you're dang close.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I don't eat kale I will eat broccol. You're so
full of crap. You totally do.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
I've seen you eat kale chips.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Go ahead, think about It's not.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
That on me because I have no recollection of eating
at it.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
On the plane, and I told you do not eat
that on an airplane.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
We didn't. I would have known. I wouldn't have touched.
I bet you I didn't like it, did I?
Speaker 6 (18:43):
You said it was better than you thought it needed salts?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I noticed creeen.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Jean Pierre had a hard time commenting and refused to
comment on Congresswoman Giapaul's comments on rape.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Listen to this.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
Do you think the representative needs to clarify her remarks?
So look, I'm going to let the representative speak for herself.
I just can't speak for her. I speak for the
President of the United States. I am the White House
Press Secretary obviously, So that's who I speak for and
what I can say. And I said this in Sarah's
question when I answered it, which is it is when
it comes to rape, that's reprehensible. When it comes to
using rape as a weapon of war, that's reprehensible. We
(19:24):
are very very clear about denouncing Hamas's actions and that's
what the President has been clear about, and that's as administration.
More broadly, we're going to continue to.
Speaker 8 (19:33):
Think because of her perch, though as a progressive leader,
she should clarify her remarks.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
I speak for the president, she has to speak for herself.
We have been very, very progressively, very clear. Anyway, the
word progressive is a misnomer.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Well, she's the chair of the Progressive Call Create Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Now, if it was about MAGA Republicans, I guarantee Colleen
Jean Pierre would have a lot more to say. Let's
go to Marshall. He's in South Carolina. Next eight hundred
and ninety four one, Shawn on number as we continue
from Davenport, Iowa.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
What's going on? How are you, Marshall? Glad you called.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Good afternoon, Sewan, Thanks for taking the call. I'm a
fan when I listen, and I just had a question.
I heard you mentioning on the radio yesterday that no
one could assume to know the outcome of an election.
Now not knowing the outcome, but wanting to get some
insight on what the lead up to the election is
in small community circles, unaligned circles, no real party affiliation.
(20:27):
The buzz that I've heard is that how does President
Trump's name get so much airplay in the conversation at
this time, with party posturing leading up to caucuses and
debates and things of the sort. How does he survive
legal hurdles and keep his momentum feeding up to any election.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Listen, you're raising questions that I can't answer, and I
don't think anybody else can answer either. I can give
you my best educated guess, but we won't know in
eleven months from now, which is when we'll be voting.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I don't know what the driving issues will be.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
What state will the economy be in, what state will
Joe Biden's mightn't be in? Will Joe Biden even be
on the ticket at that point? What impact will these
criminal trials have on President Trump? What about the possible
impeachment of Joe Biden? What impact would that have on
the country. So I just think there are so many
issues out there. What is going to happen on the
world stage. What's going on with China, what will they
(21:28):
do with Taiwan, What's going on with Ukraine and Russia
and more in Europe? What's going on with the war
in the Middle East and Israel and Amas and maybe
his Ballah, maybe the Huti rebels, and maybe Iran at
some point. You know, God only knows what they're capable
of doing. So I don't think I can intelligently really
give you an answer except to say that, you know,
(21:49):
these are times unlike any I've ever seen before. I've
been telling friends and I mean it, and no one
passed elections I've said it, so maybe it sounds like,
you know, I just say it every election season. I
have never felt this concerned about the future direction of
our country. I can tell you that that is a fact.
(22:10):
I have never in my life felt this concern about
the world and what's going on in the world.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Either.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
This is what the world looks like when America abdicates
its role on the world stage as the world's leader.
This is what it looks like the economy. I worry
about the sixty plus percent of Americans living paycheck to paycheck,
And of that sixty some odd percent, a significant portion
(22:38):
of people, you know what, they're having to borrow money
just to get bare necessities. You know, they're putting, they're
building up credit card debt that I don't think they're
ever going to be able to pay back or cashing
in pensions that you know, with massive penalties just to
make ends meet every month. I don't know when the
(22:58):
housing market comes back, don't know the impact on inflation
and interest rates. I mean, these are all things that
concern me. And you know, maybe one of the best
things I think that God did for me in my
life is for twenty years of my life I did
real work. I won't regurgitate every job I had, but
ten years in the restaurant business, ten years in the
construction business. And I'm just telling you that I know
(23:21):
what it's like to live paycheck to paycheck, and it
kind of sucks.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
There's a lot of pressure on you.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And you know, to have that pressure when you have
a family, you know, makes it ten times harder, a
thousand times harder because now you have to take care
of other people, and that's what people are living through.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Look.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I live in a fairly i'd say, upper middle class,
affluent town, and I can tell you that two of
my best friends, they donate their time and they help
out at the local food pantry. And I always tell them,
whenever you guys are up against you know, get in
trouble or you need more money, and you're really as
I said, anytime you get to that point, just come
(24:02):
to me. And they have come to me a number
of times, by the way, which I want them to do.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
And you know, I went down one time and I just.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Could not believe the number is a sheer number of
people that were online just to get the bare necessities,
just to get food. Now, in one case, you'd see
people that had actually pretty nice cars, and you see
in some cases and you would think, well, they must
be taking advantage.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
They weren't taken advantage.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
But what had happened is they assumed things would stay
the same.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
They assumed that they'd be able to.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Afford their home, their insurance, the school for their kids,
clothes for their kids, their car payment. They were making
ends meet, they were probably even saving a little bit
of money. But Joe's economy has sent them reeling to
a point they can't they can't meet a budget any longer. Well,
a lot of those people end up probably selling those
(25:03):
cars and buying cheaper cars. Yeah, but then they weren't
taking advantage of anybody. They're they're desperate and I'm hearing
that or anecdotes anecdotes like that from friends all around
the country. So there's so much that will happen between
now and them, and I'll tell you that it's pretty scary. Anyway,
I appreciate the call, Marshall. God bless you, buddy. Let's
(25:23):
see what happens. Let's say hi to John in Virginia,
the Commonwealth of Virginia.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
John, Hi, how are you glad you called?
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Hey? Sean, how you doing?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Welcome to Davenport. What's going on?
Speaker 4 (25:36):
All right?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
So?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I just wanted to know your opinion on Trump's campaign
sactic of avoiding the R and C debates and do
you think it would have benefit him come twenty twenty
four and earning the elections.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
You know, look, there's two schools have thought.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
If I put on what I would prefer to watch,
of course I'd rather watch Donald Trump. That debate is
going to be a hell of a lot more interesting
if he's there. Do I think if I was his
political advisors and I'm looking at polls one after another
after another after another that show him with a significant lead,
do I think the advice that I would give him
(26:12):
would be, Yeah, go throw yourself in the arena so
they can beat the crap out of you for an
hour and a half, two hours and not expect that.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
You know, what's the upside for him?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
You always got to ask upside downside, what is the
upside for him to show up?
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Tell me, well, honestly, he's been doing really good, to
be honest with. He's up in the polls. And I mean,
you know, as they say, the more you would tag
Donald Trump, the stronger he seems to get. Well, it
seems like he's been holding up pretty well. Without going
into the dates, it seemed like it wouldn't be doing
many good show up.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Listen, he has defied, as I've said many times, do
he defies all conventional political gravity. If somebody, if a
candidate got arrested, indicted, and arraigned, you would think their
poll numbers go down. Nope, his go up. He made
a comment recently it's kind of glib and he's like,
I'm just one arrest short of being guaranteed victory in November.
(27:06):
I mean, it's kind of funny. Eight hundred nine four one,
Shawn is our number. Let's say hi to Tony in California. Tony,
how are you hey?
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Sean?
Speaker 8 (27:14):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I can hear you what's going on? Welcome to Davenport, Iowa.
Speaker 8 (27:17):
First of all, I've been listening to you forever.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
I mean, thank you.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
I Uh.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
The debate the other night cracked me up because let's
just say that I drive a heavy equipment tractor on
the roads down in LA for a company, oh wow,
working down here over twenty years. And after listening to Newsom,
I wish I could have just a word with him
because I've watched the progression. I watched the homeless when
(27:43):
it started. I watched the road, the roads and everything,
and it's getting worse, and it's we're headed down to
bad path and everything he says, I realize, unfortunately, I
think he's not always telling the truth, and he's pledging
the numbers. Because the freeway thing with the high freeway
ten catching up, Sean, I've been driving under that road
for the last twenty years to get on the freeway,
(28:04):
and I see all the homeless stint, all the junk
and everything, and it hasn't been monitoring in surprise, surprise,
a fire star. So it just blows my mind. And
I listened to Richard Kyleie the other day at the
US House Representative of course. I don't know if you
saw that Sean where he did a blistering fact check
of Governor Newsom on the House floor and just completely
(28:25):
blew him out of the waters. And I'm not surprised
at all.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I appreciate the call. God bless you, sir. Thank you
for your kind words. It means a lot. Thanks for
being out there. That's going to wrap things up for today.
Many many thanks to our friends here in Davenport, Iowa.
And really looking forward to seeing all of you tonight
nine Eastern Sey you DVR Hannity on the Fox News Channel.
It's going to be a great town hall former President
Donald Trump. We haven't done one with him in a while,
(28:50):
looking forward to it tonight. We've got a lot to
talk about director race testimony. On top of everything else,
Iowa caucuses right around the corner, primaries, polls, what he
is running on, what his plan for another term would
look like, what he thinks about what's happening economically, what
he thinks about what's happening around the world, how he
(29:12):
would be handling things different. Anyway, We'll see you to
night at nine. Back here tomorrow Hannity dot Com. Tickets
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