Searching For Justice

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, glad you with us saying to all the
fathers out there, Happy Father's Day. This weekend, I was
telling Linda was all big joker joking about it. Um,
And that's the funny thing about Father's Day. I always said, well,
fathers always get short changed. That Mother's Day is the
bigger holiday by far. And I actually argue rightly so.
And she took issue with that, and um, I just

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you know, I say that you took issue with that.
I think you know, you just think you took it's
But I'm a dad. I don't really care. You know,
first of all, you still care. I don't. I honestly
don't know you do. I'm not a man. But you
want to be recognized? Do you want? Like a minute?
All right? A minute? Is? Mother's Day is different Mother's Day.

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You gotta go all out Mother's Day. It's gotta be flowers,
it's gotta be a handwritten note, it's gotta be emotional,
the same thing for my dad. I would get my
mom flowers and like her favorite you know, dessert or whatever.
And I would always get my dad a card and
like lobster tails or something. Yeah, like that's the stuff
likes listen. I guess everybody's different, you know me, and
when people giving me gifts, I hate it. I'm like

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Christmas time I get here, you yah yeah, and I'm
just like slipping them to sweet Papy James. Here. You
take this, you take this? You Okay. First of all,
don't say that that's not They know it. They know it,
and they're like they just gave up. Most of them
have now given up. They think. You know, I'm like
a type of guy when you need something, whatever you
needn't get it for you. Now, I want to give

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the I like to give things away. And it's not
a cliche. It's better to give them receive. That's not
a cloche. That's true. It is. I hear you. I
gotta give you props because on Hannity dot com you're
putting up send us stories about your dad this Father's Day.
Just go to Hannity dot com. And yes, so we

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also are gonna do something really cool on the website
that we've never done before. Go ahead, it's actually on
your Facebook page and we'll go ahead. Keep going. Okay,
And that is well, John Rich is involved. Should I
give it all the way? Now, what do we tell
people like, I mean, we're going to talk about it tomorrow,
but I mean the crux of what we're doing right

(02:08):
now is, you know, we are going to have this concert.
It's free. You go on Sean's Facebook page. We're gonna
Facebook live at tomorrow after the radio broadcast, and John
is just an awesome dude, and he's gonna play some
great songs, and it's going to be a dedication to
all the dad's out there. And what we'd love to
do is intermix in between songs, reading the stories about
all these great dads and fathers around the country that

(02:30):
listened to the show, you know, from their kids, their
grandkids or family members, to tell us, you know, sentimental
or funny, heartfelt, whatever, and we can read them during
the during the online content. It would be fun. You know. Look,
my dad died now in my twenty fifth year of Fox.
He died. I started in October of ninety six. He
died in March of ninety seven. Actually I was recently

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at the grave site, I can tell you that. And
he served in the military four years Navy, grew up
in a depression. I mean I remember saying to him
at the end of his life, your life was brutal.
He goes to me, No, not at all, And I said,
I was a horrible son because I was never there.
I was independent since I was you know, eight, and
and I left for sixteen years before I ever got

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back to New York. Five years, Rhode Island, five years, California,
two years, Alabama, four years Georgia, which was a great
life experience. But I didn't have the money and nor
the time. And I don't mean this and that I
couldn't find time. I didn't have the money time to
actually stop working because I was, you know, gulping water
every day. My life hasn't really changed much, but I
don't gulp it every day now, and but it's been

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all that time, and I still miss him every day,
and I to this day just know what a great
you know, he had a hard life, but he loved
his life. And you know that's why I say about
this election. In one hundred and thirty eight days, the
America he grew up in, and our grandparents grew up at,
and we grew up in, it's all to me. It's
all on the line and one hundred and thirty eight days,

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and and we'll get into it later. We have a
special by the way box first edition of the book
that will be out now we've been announced the date.
It's going to be August fourth, But you get a
beautiful gift certificate. You can even print it out Sunday
if you procrastinay, give it to dad. First edition, special
bound edition. Um. There's only a certain number of them,
UM for Dad as a as a game. And it's

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really nice. It's it's it looks it's just like the
Mother's Day set that we did. It's just as it's
just as lovely, it's just as well put together, you know,
and it's something that you can give you dad on
Father's Day morning. You could literally buy it that morning
and give him this gift card and then you'll get
it in August fourth, when the Books of the Week
it comes out. All right, let me start with, oh,
we have a lot of news on Ray Schard Brooks.

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Now we had the prosecutor U what is Paul Howard
yesterday going out Fulton County DA and makes this case.
And oh we have new developments we're gonna get to.
I can't wait to tell you about those. We'll look
at the legal side of this. Remember when you indict somebody. Okay,
you can indict a ham Sam. We've been over that
aspect of the law many many times on this show.

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And we've talked a lot about prosecutors, prosecutorial abuse obviously
the last three years over charging. You raise expectations and
then the result doesn't come out the way people were
told it was gonna come out. And we've seen when
the results can often be and that's terrible, like in
the in Ferguson or in Baltimore. And I'll explain all

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of that in a minute. I'm just gonna I'm not
gonna spend a lot of time on John Bolton and
John Bolton's book. I've known John Bolton for many, many years.
There's a personal aspect of this to me that is,
you know, maybe I'm just so cynical now, I kind
of it just rolls off me like water off a

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duck's back. I can tell you John Bolton lobbied everybody,
everybody to get the job as working for the president.
And I had once specific conversation with him. I said, John,
your foreign policy viewser the direct opposite of this presidents
he goes. I said to her, I said, these words,

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are you going to serve your agenda there, or are
you there to serve the president's agenda? And he swore
the president's agenda during his time there. I had numerous calls.
I think they were meant to be private, but I
could just tell you what I am hearing in this book.
Whatever this book is that he's put out is not

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what I was told by him at all in any way, shape, manner,
or form. And so that's troubling to me. But it
is what it is, you know. And then you know,
it's an interesting thing that we have the ability to
now go back and look at people's comments and compare
what they said before to what they're saying now, you know.
And you know, John Bolton, for example, you know, is

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you know, he praised the President's policy on China and Russia.
President gets criticized for being soft on Russia. I'm still
waiting to see any evidence of that. President Trump is
time and time again taking a strong stand against Russia's
malign activities. He said that then, for example Bolton, you know,

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we got a little problem because when you go in
and you take these jobs where you have access to
highly classified information, you sign a waiver that you're not
going to do what John Bolton just did here, And
now we're learning, and these affidavits filed last night that
in fact, what he's releasing is classified and would be

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damaging to national security. So that now that now we're
in the middle of a lawsuit about them, what is
he trying to hide? Nothing? And he leaked the whole
books of the New York Times, and there's not one
thing I've read in it that impressed me at all
in any way and is contradicted by his own words
that are numerous on every single topic we're talking about.
You know, during the National Security Advisories in Trust to

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be classified information, during the review, the NSC identified significant
quantities of classified information in Bolton's book, which they asked
him to remove. While he made changes, the process was
still not over. Whoopsie Daisy, now they leak it. Administration
seeks to protect our national security blah blah blah blah.

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Bolton's attempt to publish this book containing classified information is
a clear breach trust with the federal government. And that's
why this may not end well for John Bolton in
the end. And it makes you wonder. I think he
was embarrassed the way he was fired and he just
wanted to revenge. By the way, he also did the
same thing I forgot about. Dana Perino had said something

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on I think it was Tucker's show last night about that,
you know, as it relates to, for example, the president's leadership.
He praised the president's foreign policy on China, Iran and
Russia and NATO, and he, you know, liking President Trump's
piece through Strength policy. His exact quote was, I think
President the President believes in Reagan's approach of peace through strength.

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I think that I think that's what he's carrying out. Well,
that's not what's in the book at all. He highlighted
the president's willingness to stand up to China. Wow, that
doesn't sound like what's in the book either. The pressure
now is on the president. He responded in a way
that the Chinese confused. They've never seen an American president

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this tough before. But the president feels very strongly that
China has taken advantage of international order for far too long,
not enough Americans have stood up to it, and he's
doing it. I think the President has done something no
previous American president has been willing to do. He called
China out on their behavior. He praised the President and

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his efforts in North Korea. He credited the president's maximum
pressure campaign on Iran on NATO. Bolton publicly plays the
President and the effort to highlight the importance of you know,
the fair burden sharing. I mean, it's just instant after
instant after instant. John Bolton his own words contradicting his

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own words now and by the way, Democrats don't even
trust him. You know, when all of this came up
with him getting this job, you know, New York Times
had charging with that John Bolton was not truthful in
answering questions about his record. They called him a liar.
Democratic Staff Senate Foreign Relations Committee. It's the judgment of

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the Democratic staff that four distinct patterns of conductors qualified
Bolton for the post of UN Ambassador. He's repeatedly sought
the removal of intelligence analysts who disagreed with him in
preparing speeches and testimony. He's repeatedly tried to stretch intelligence
to fit his views in his relations with colleagues and

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subordinates in and out of government. And he has exhibited
repeatedly abusive behavior and intolerance of different views. He's repeatedly
made misleading, disingenuous, non responsive statements to the committee. Even
Adam Schiff accused him of lacking credibility and politicizing intelligence.
So there's not really you know, I look, I know

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it's the media. You know. Now they'll love him for
a minute, but they still hate him, and the book
will not have any impact. So that's why I'm not
going to spend any time on it. I mean, it's
you know, Adam Schiff saying you're a no patriot, and
you know, I just read it and then I compare
it to all those past comments and I'm like, this
is just stupid at this point to even spend any

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time on him. Now, we had the prosecutor come out
yesterday in Fulton County, Paul Howard, and we've often talked
about how you can indict a ham Sandwich. By the way,
you can't. You only got one side of the issue.
Now tape has emerged, and I'll play it on the
other side of our first break where just two weeks ago,

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different case, not the shooting in the Wendy's parking lot,
in the case of Raychard Brooks, where he actually said
that a taser is considered as a deadly weapon under
Georgia law. Now, police officers under Georgia law are allowed

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to use force if in fact that they believe that
person presents a threat with a deadly weapon. Whipsie daisy,
you know, And they rushed to judge. We also found
out that one of the officers was tased in this
and the other officers suffered a concussion. All right, eight

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hundred ninety four one, Sean has our number. Got a
lot coming up today. We have our legal panel on
these very issues. Jeron Jeron Smith is with US, Deputy
Assistant to the President. We'll get to that today, and
we have so much more to get to. You've heard
the phrase you can indict a ham sandwich. Well, you
can remember when the prosecutor Fulton County DA came out,

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Paul Howard yesterday. He laid out his case. Now there's
certain things that he kept out of it. And I
know I had the same exact observation of him forty
one minutes whatever many seconds. Everybody was professional, was courteous.
I thought the officers were kind, they did their job,
and I would also argue that raychard Brooks the same thing.

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Curtis courtesy, respect, until the moment where we get to okay,
they were trying to cuff him, and then he's the
one that initiated a conflict and resisting arrest, and struggle
ensued and fight on the ground. Stop fighting, stop fighting,
I'm gonna have to tas you. I'm gonna have you
ta you don't touch my taser, don't. He ends up

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being I wouldn't say victorious, but he hit the cops,
stood up, starts running with a taser in his hand. Now,
what we've learned today which we didn't know at least
according to the lawyer for one of the officers in
this case, and that would be Devin Brosson before he
was fatally shot, that in fact, while they were fighting

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over that taser, that in fact, mister Brooks grabbed the
taser from him and actually shot this officer. Devon got
shot with the taser. The lawyer added. He also then
fell over and landed on his head and the pavement
and got a concussion. And what's what's really interesting, the
lawyer again for this officer Brosson, is saying that his

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actions were exemplary. He was the one that was saying,
I'm so sorry about your mom. We got to do this.
I know you're doing your job. Mister Brookes said, okay,
now he rejected outright any any violation of any law
leveled against his client. Well, those client quote is going
to say that turnstate witness of some kind. That's what
the prosecutor said. He said that the concussion, he didn't

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even realize that Brooks had been shot when he put
his foot on it on the arm to make sure
that he didn't have access to another weapon as he
lay on the ground. He said, it's not an assault.
It's actually a man suffering from a concussion. Well, that
takes on a whole different, entirely different feel to things
when you know when you that's the new situation that's

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involved here. So anyway, I'll take a quick break here.
When we come back, we'll give and give you more
details of all of this as we continue. It's the
Sean Hannity Show, all right, twenty five till the top
of the hour. Thank you, Scott Shannon eight hundred and
nine four one, Sean, you want to be a part
of this extravagance, you know, Davis in Pennsylvania. I'm interested

(15:36):
in this call. Apparently an attorney doesn't believe these police
can get a fair trial. How are you, sir, Why
do you believe that? Hi, Sean, Well, there's jury intimidation
of iver. Remember that jury knows or shouldn't all they
have to vote guilty. They have to find them guilty

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or the whole country's going to be in a riot
and their life might be in danger. Normally, an attorney
would ask to judge for change of venue, to have
it somewhere else in the state, but anywhere in the
country this trial will be held. It can't be a
fair trial because no matter what the burden of proof is,
whether he's guilty or not, the jury is going to

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be thinking what's going to happen to me or the
country if I vote not guilty in this case? So
he can't get a fair trial in my opinion. Listen,
there might be a move for a change in venue.
None of that would shock or surprise me in any way, shape,
matter or form. But I'll tell you you know, I
saw this coming in Ferguson, Missouri. Why, because we do

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something very few people in the mob and the media do.
We actually call people and we get sources. And I
had so many police sources out of Ferguson, Missouri that
told me there were many African American witnesses that were
going to corroborate this story of Officer Darren Wilson. That

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the initial the initial conflict started while Darren Wilson was
in the car and Michael Brown in that case, tried
to wrestle his gun away from him, and that's where
a shot was fired. Nobody got hit, and then Michael
Brown ran away, and then Michael Brown started charging at
Officer Darren Wilson, who repeatedly said stop charging, stop charging,

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stop charging. Okay, they backed up his story completely. Now
we don't think about the fact that this guy's dream
of being a police officer, because most guys that I
know that become police officers, they've dreamed about that their
whole life. I have members of my family in every
aspect of law enforcement, starting with my mother and my
dad in some way, capacity or form, and family members.

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And the two people that were deity made it to
the FBI, and let me tell you something, they're still
deity compared to the stupid talk show host would just
you know, defied everybody and never listen anyone to get
into either medicine or to get into police work now
knowing again you only hear from a prosecutor what he

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wants you to hear. And I'm not questioning the motives,
the intent or the prosecutor here, but at the end
of the day, getting an indictment before a grand jury,
there's no defense making the case for the officers. Everybody's
entitled to a defense, everybody, I guess, with the exception

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of Roger Stone, because we had a jury four person
in that case that actually was prejudiced against him and
stated at all publicly before she was chosen to be
on that jury. We usually have a questionnaire process to
wed such people out. Didn't happen there that case should
have been thrown out immediately, or the horrific things that
happened to General Michael Flynn. They didn't think he was lying.

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They didn't think he was lying. They threatened to put
his son in jail, which has to stop, I think
as a process. And he's like, you mean, if you
want me to lie, even though you did anything, I'm
lying so that you won't go after my son and
try to put my son in jail. Okay, a good soldier,
what did he do? He impaled himself and he dove
on the sword for his family. That makes me like

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what General Flynn a lot more to be honest, shows
what character he has. There will be justice, I am.
I am convinced beyond any any shadow of a doubt.
Now in this case, what are we learning here today? Well, finally,
the attorney for one of the officers involved, not the
officer involved in the shooting, Officer Brasson's his name is

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Dan Samuel, has actually given us new information today and
he said that in the conflict, again, everybody was professional,
courteous by the book up until the moment they tried
to put handcuffs on him. And you might say, why
didn't they just let the guy go? He wasn't that drunk.
That's not an option for police. Let's say they said,

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all right, we're gonna let you walk home, and let's
say the cops leave and he goes back, here's another
set of keys at home, and he opens that car,
drives the car and kills a kid. I guess who's
responsible at that point, the officers that didn't follow through
and do their job and arrest the guy. I mean, look,
nobody wants a duy. The simple answers I would argue
uber the simple answers don't do it. But at the

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end of the day, a d uy is probably gonna
end up and you take an alcohol addiction classes, community service,
and maybe have a suspended license for a while. It's
it's not a jail term unless maybe it's a second
third offense. So it just so he initiated the conflict. Okay,
Now we learn from the attorney of the one officer

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that was not involved in the shooting aspect of this
that not only remember he was saying, stop fighting, stop fighting,
I'm gonna have to Tasia will tas you, I have
to stop get your hands off of my taser. Well,
then we saw that Richard Brookes stole the taser, and
his attorney now is saying that he got taste that
he grabbed the taser and he literally used it on

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that officer. And then the lawyer added then he fell over,
landed on his head on the pavement and gets a concussion. Well,
all of a sudden, now we're not in a grand
jury room with only one side of the case being presented.
We believe in a fair and am partial jury and
evidence gets to be presented. Here, I would say that's

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going to be pretty compelling evidence for a jury for
that particular officer. Now you add to that, well, okay,
under the law. I went through it in great specificity,
in detail yesterday on the show and last night on TV,
and I'll get into more detail maybe later today and
on the program tonight. But under Georgia law, it's pretty
pretty simple. You're allowed to use deadly force if somebody

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has a deadly weapon that is either a threat to
themselves or others. Well, it just so happens. Unrelated case
two weeks ago that the e A. Paul Howard said
this about tasers. Listen and charge with aggravated assault of
miss Pilgrim. And this is for pointing a taser at

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missus Pilgrim. In as many of you all know, under
Georgia law, a taser is considered as a deadly weapon
under Georgia law. As you know, under Georgia law, a
taser is considered as a deadly weapon under Georgia law.
Lepsie Daisy. Now that brings in the whole issue of
Professor of the Police officer Rolfe. It's not as cut

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and dry now, George Floyd, no brainer that it's not
police procedure. Excuse me to ever put your knee on
the neck, the most sensitive part of the human anatomy.
I won't repeat all the arguments we've made there for
we watched seven minutes and fifty five seconds. It went

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on for over eight minutes, nearly nine minutes. It's gonna
end every time in death, you know, and watching people
saying stop, look at what's He's not even conscious? What
are you doing? Take your take a knee up the neck?
Why don't you tell him? Help this guy? Uh? It
shocked the conscience and soul of a nation. It absolutely did.
And and I would argue rightly. So we have something

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else that is now unfolding before our eyes. For examples CNN,
Fake News, Washington Post, WWRBL, People dot Com, People Magazine,
I guess quote. A blue flu now has spread across
Atlanta's police ranks, with officers insisting that Wednesday evening they're

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too sick for their night shift. In other words, they
called in sick, and you go to your doctor this
terrible cough. I may need a COVID test. My back
is out. I wrenched my back. It's called it has
a name. It's called blue flu. And This is what
I was getting into in great detail yesterday. And this

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is now a clear and present danger for this country
because you know, everyone can talk about defunding the police
all you want. You can talk about dismantling the police
all that you want. Now you've got some questions. Who
are you going to call? What are you going to do? Now?

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What's happening. We're seeing a run on the country and
it's been building, and it happens a lot in terms
of people feeling the need for their own personal self defense.
You know that this is now a serious problem. This
could now especially in these big cities where all of
these liberal mayors and governors that keep denying the president

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who keeps begging them for help. Okay, they're not restoring order.
You know, this is the This is the absolute sin
and shame of Chicago and New York and Seattle and
washing the President's offering to help. Where the president involved themselves,
it stopped. It stopped at Minneapolis, stopped in DC, stopped
at Minneapolis. So and now we're at the point where

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police you know, I know I've talked about the one percent,
the deep state, the abuse of power, the corruption, but
I always made a delineation. I don't talk badly about
the ninety nine percent of America and the world's premier
law enforcement agency. I don't do that. I've often talked
about why was I right on Ferguson because I did

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with the mob and the media didn't do, and I
had sources telling me this is going to happen. The
same thing with Freddie Gray and Baltimore, everybody, even then
President o'mama ways in on all of these high profile cases.
They raise expectations that a certain result is going to happen.
They rush to judgment, and now we've got, you know,

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these broad sweeping generalizations about cops. Well, I don't know
those cops, and if those that we identify as such,
they need to go. I don't hear a lot of
people in the media talking about over eight hundred cops
now that have been injured ricks bricks and rocks and
bottles and Molotov cocktails and knives in their necks, or

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the cops that have died, or the you know, we
now have, you know, a whole litany of what's happening
here and a never ending smear campaign against the ninety
nine percent of good, decent, brave police officers. If we
don't end this, nobody will ever take this job. And
if they're ever on the job, they're going to make
a right turn because they think this trouble. If they

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make a left turn, they're not going to involve themselves
if they feel that there'll be no support. If they
in fact have to use some kind of force in
a dangerous situation, that's not good for the safety of
any American. And you know, you see, for example, hundreds
of cops in New York's with all the and there
were peaceful protesters, I make a distinction, but there were

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a lot of rioters too, and a lot of people
that had agenda, And there was a lot of arson,
and a lot of looting, and a lot of bricks
throwne and a lot of rocks thrown and molotov cocktails throne.
You know, we saw the cops being pelted with these objects.
We'll know one incident officer has a head injury after
getting mauled with a metal fire extinguisher. Another cop in

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New York stabbed in the neck. As I said, in Police,
we all saw the video of a police mowed down
by a guy drive in a car over eight hundred
cops to date now have been injured, others have been killed,
and others now in the case of this officer shot
in the head in Vegas, he's now paralyzed from the
neck down. He's not an old guy. That's the rest

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of his life, and his life will probably be in
jeopardy for the rest of his life. And the amount
of medical care, you know, it's incalculable and it's all unnecessary.
Got a sheriff's deputy murdered in the line of duty
in Mississippi over the weekend. A cop shot in Baltimore
in the Torso you know, if you want some real numbers,

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I'll give you real numbers because we've got them. You know,
eighty nine police officers in the year twenty nineteen were
killed in the line of duty. That's a lot of officers.
And they have families. They want to go home and
see two every day. But they put the uniform on,
they go into the tough areas, they go where the
crime is. They try to protect and serve their community,

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and they don't even get the benefit of the doubt,
they don't get the presumption of innocence, and then they
get called racist by everybody. And you know, ironically, in
a lot of these big cities, these police departments, a
majority minority, I think sixty percent, for example in Los Angeles,
happened to be Hispanic Americans. And they're out there every
day doing a very tough job. You know, you want

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you know other you know instances, We can give it
to you because in twenty eighteen, police in this country
arrested nearly twelve thousand people for murder and for manslaughter,
and twenty five thousand people for rape, and nearly a
million five for assault. And the overwhelming majority of law
enforcement community, you know, they perform their duties. They protect

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and they serve, and they do it with integrity and
honor and decency. And this is the things that they get.
The cops that were climbing up those tower stairs along
with their fireman brethren and their EMT brethren, while everybody
else is racing down the stairs to get the hell
out of what was eventually, you know, the mass murder

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of nearly three thousand of our fellow citizens. They were
going up bravely knowing they may not come down that
day to protect other people. How do we forget the
two officers, Remember the shooting and the softball field with
Steve Scalies got shot. You know you got a guy
with a rifle hidden and the two officers. Is the

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shooting breaks out Capital police, Well, they walked in the
middle of an open baseball field. You wanted to fine
heroism because let me tell you, as somebody, well, I
have a lot of firearms. I've been trained since I'm ten.
A rifle with some cover versus two police officers with

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a pistol, it's no contest. The guy with the rifle,
if he has any level of skill, will win ninety
nine point nine percent of the time. But they did
it anyway. They took the risk anyway for other people.
But they're all racist, right, They deserve to get bricks

(30:34):
thrown at him, bottles, rocks, molotov cocktails. No, you know
who is gonna ever want to do this job? Now?
You have talks about sickouts, the blue flu. You know
I can't support it because if it happens, I know
it's gonna end badly. But there's another part of me
that says, you know what, these people deserve better, We

(30:58):
owe it to them because they do it for us.
It's unbelievable. These are the eleven charges against Officer Roth.
The first charge is felony murder. This is a death
that is as a result of an underlying felony, and
in this case, the underlying felony is aggravating salt with

(31:21):
a deadly weapon. And the possible sentences for a felony
murder conviction would be life life with our parole or
the death penalty. We are asking Officer Roth and Officer A.
Presidan to surrender themselves by six pm on tomorrow. We

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are because Officer Brosdon is now becoming a cooperating witness
father state. We are asking the court to grant a
bond of fifty thousand dollars and to allow mister officer
Brosnan to sign that bond, as I indicated that he

(32:09):
would become one of the first police officers to actually
indicate that he is willing to testify against someone in
his own department. All right, that was the announcement yesterday
about the charges that were brought up in the case
in Atlanta, Raychard Brooks. I did not know this, nor
did he mention it yesterday when he was announcing the

(32:31):
charges that were made. According to Officer Bronson's lawyer, who
apparently is turning state witness. According to the prosecutor, his
lawyer said that Devin ends up taking out his taser
and yelling at him stop fighting, stop fighting. Mister Brooks
grabbed the taser from him and shot this one other officer,

(32:55):
not the one involved in the shooting. Aspect of this incident,
the lawyer added, he then falls over, lands on his
head of the payment gets a concussion. And by the way,
the lawyer then said, he called Bronson's actions exemplary, claimed
prosecutors didn't bother looking at the officers. Medical records also
rejected the aggravated assault charge levied against his client, who

(33:17):
prosecutors said stood on Brooks's shoulder after he was shot,
and Samuel said the concussion Bronson didn't even realize that
Brooks had been shot when he put his foot on
the arm to make sure that he didn't have access
to a weapon as he lay on the ground. He said,
it's not an assault, it's a man suffering from a concussion.
You know, it's interesting we always say these words you

(33:38):
can indict a ham sandwich, which is true in a
lot of ways. There's a lot of truth to that
statement because remember when a case is presented before a
grand jury, they're in no, you don't get the other side.
The bar to indet is extraordinarily blow versus what will

(33:59):
be very high in a courtroom where you have real,
hopefully hopefully impartial jurors, fair and impartial jurors, the opposite
of Oh, let's say the trial of Roger Stone, which
we had a jury four person that had written previously
about how much they hate Roger Stone, Trump, supporters Trump
and everybody else in between. How that case didn't get

(34:20):
thrown out is beyond any comprehension I have. It is
a travesty of justice. So as we get down deeper
into all of this, now you know why cops are
now saying, you know what, enough is enough? And you know,
you get all these lengthy liberal comments about, well, what
will life look like without police? What will life look

(34:42):
like when we defund the police? Okay, you don't need
to go to Harvard and get a degree in psychology
or criminal justice to figure out it's not gonna end
very well at all. That's your answer. The danger, too,
is that you know what we're seeing play around the
country that the eight hundred officers now injured with rocks

(35:05):
and bricks and bottles and molotov cocktails. Some have died.
We have the one officer paralyzed from the waist down.
Now I think actually from the neck down. You know,
look at this New York City. You have one officer
stabbed in the neck as a result of this. Eight
hundred officers total and now have been hurt. You have
another officer with a head injury after getting mauled with

(35:28):
a metal fire extinguisher. New York City. Hundreds of police
officers injured after being pelted with bricks and other objects.
All told, this is happening around the country. So it is.
And by the way, if you want numbers, statistics, the
year twenty nineteen eighty nine officers killed in the line
of duty. Now the ninety nine percent. And I said

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this even when I was exposing a lot of abuse
of power and corruption on the deep state with my
ensemble cast, which was amazing, I always said, not the
ninety nine not the ninety nine percent, the one percent,
the one. I always make the distinction. Nor on this
show do we rush to judgment. We saw what happened Obama,

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Rock and Joe. They rushed to judgment on Ferguson. They
rushed to judgment in Baltimore. So many rush to judgment UVA,
so many rush to judgment, Duke lacross a lot of
Richard Jewel. I've been right on all of those cases.
When everyone else is wrong, they haven't heard from the defense.
The defense now is going to make their case known.

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And now the big question is, Okay, even if you
don't defund the police, will the police even bother, you know,
staying on that job or seek other careers that probably
will even pay more and put them at far less
risk in their lives. All Right, we have a lot
to sort out here. Leo Terrell, American civil liberties attorney,
talk show host at the Leo Terrell. David Shoon, civil

(36:53):
liberties attorney, Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal analysts, author of
the two best sellers, Russia Hoax and The witch Hunt. Leo,
I start with you again. I mean, we seem in
alignment here. Okay, the first forty one minutes and whatever seconds,
everything went perfectly professional courtesy um. You know, on both

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sides everybody was being being nice. What it was it
was turning into just us sorry, you blew one, you know,
one point one er. Whatever it is above the legal limit.
They don't have the option to not arrest you at
that point, they have to arrest you. Okay, please put
your hands behind your back, and all hell breaks loose.
The cops I saw got hit. We see what We

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now know that one officer, according to his attorney, has
a concussion. The taser was stolen. The other officer is
in pursuit. As the guy has the weapon, he turns
around seemingly to fire that weapon at the officer. It
ends with two shots in the back. Thoughts, I'll take Sean,
you laid it out perfectly. I learned more now about

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some of the defense that's going to be used by
these officers. A concussion. Hear that prosecutor at all during
this carnival show that he gave Minchen by the way,
he never he never asked. That's even worse. You know,
they glade out their whole case yesterday. If you're a
defense lawyer, you know where they're going. You know exactly
where they're going, and they put the instances on what

(38:17):
happened after the shooting. But the fact that one of
these officers had a concussion, that's the type of evidence
that that reaps an affirmative defense and the basis for
his conduct. Look, that district attorney should recuse himself if
he wants to be fair. Those officers have a legitimate
right for a change of venue. Again, I want everyone
to understand this is not the George Floyd case, and

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there's definitely over charging in this case. I will submit
to you that a lot of these charges are going
to be dropped if this case ever goes to trial,
and any good attorney, defense attorneys, civil rights attorney is
going to tell you that this is a tough, if
not impossible case to get a conviction. Why because the
what's the state of that mind of that officer who

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shot have to be evaluated by a reasonably objective standard.
And he's going to have great police experts from throughout
this country who's going to test five that his contact
with reasonable And final point, you're dead on about the
state of affairs of police officers in this country. I
just left the union from the La County Sheriff Department,
and these guys are being blamed like throughout this country

(39:21):
for the mistakes of a few bad officers. These individuals
want these police officers are the people who protect us
at two and three o'clock in the morning. You know,
as you look at this, all right, so we have
eleven charges in all, Greg Jarrett, as it relates to
this case against the officer that fired the weapon. Eleven charges,

(39:43):
first one being a death penalty potential charge of murder,
then all the other charges. Now my question is did
they just load up the charges. If we can't get A,
will take B. If we can't get B, will take CE.
If we can't get C, will take D. No. I
agree with Leo, this is completely overcharged. And the defense

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it's a classic case of self defense. The standard jury
instruction in Georgia says you are allowed to use deadly
force if you are facing deadly force. So the question
is is a taser a deadly weapon? And according to
this District Attorney Paul Howard, two weeks ago, in an
unrelated case, he stood in front of television cameras and said,

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under Georgia law, a taser is a deadly weapon. And
there is a Supreme Court decision in Georgia that supports
that a taser can cause serious bodily injury or death.
And so this is a da well I think is
acceding to an angry mob. He's overcharged the case, and

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he's undermined his own case with his own words by
saying that a taser is a deadly weapon under Georgia
law and charge with Egmont assault of miss Pilgrim. And
this is far pointing a taser at missus Pilgrim. In
as many of you all know, under Georgia law, a

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taser is considered as a deadly weapon under Georgia law. Wow,
so two weeks ago, Georgia law says you're allowed to
use deadly force if you're facing deadly force. Correct, yes, yes,
And he himself said a taser is a deadly force weapon,
David Shone. Yeah, look you said it. Rush to judgment.

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That rush to judgment badly serves everybody here, any defense
lawyer worth his or her assault. Now we'll use that
to attack the integrity of the case. They missed it,
as to Brasman, they missed the most relevant facts. As
to Brosman, and Ralph's lawyer will use that too. It
looks like, on the face of it a self defense case.
Those are the cases you have to take particular care
with and presenting them the grand jury. The forensics here

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may be subject to a different point of view. You know,
mister Ralph's lawyer already has said it's wrong. He was
not running it. Brooks was not running away from him.
I assume he intends to get an forensic expert who's
going to say, while the two shots are in the back,
they were at an trajectory is such that indicating mister
Brooks was turning. So it's gonna it's gonna the case

(42:13):
will turn on that. It's a classic self defense case. However,
even if great's one hundred percent right. In fact, there's
a case in the eleventh the US Court of Appeals
right now in which a guy grabbed the officer's taser.
I was then shot and the officers entitled to qualified
immunity according to what the lower court said from that.
But but you know, we have there are a lot
of facts here that really have to be sorted out.

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As to the police union and the walk out of
the job, it's understandable, We've said it before. The cops
are our heroes period. However, many of these unions have
abused their power. We have that, I've said before. The
Jermaine McBean case in Broward County, Florida, the evidence was clear,
but the prosecution took their time. This was one hundred
and sixty eighth killing by police officers in the thirty

(42:57):
year period. They took two years to have the grand
review it. They finally indicted an officer, and then the
police union intervened and a crooked judge threw it out
on standard ground. The public won't stand for that. The
evidence was clear in that case. So the unions have
overstepped their bounds to some degree. But on the other hand,
the solidarity is understandable. We're gonna have to see how

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this plays out with the self defense. The shooting in
the back looks bad, but the rushed judgment was a
political decision. That is always a mistake, you know what.
I just I just looked at this and I'm dying.
I'm like, oh, so much that was not said yesterday.
It's pretty amazing, and in this case, a taser is
considered a deadly weapon under Georgia law. Now, the prosecutor,

(43:43):
he laid out his case yesterday before everybody as it
relates to what happened in Atlanta. He didn't mention that yesterday. Leo,
maybe I missed it, but I was watching it I
don't think I missed it. No, I saw the whole
press conference, and he didn't mention that at all. Listen,
let me tell you right now, that press conference was
a side show where he went well beyond what a

(44:05):
prosecutor does when he presents charges for the public consumption
by allowing these civil attorneys to come on board and
basically plead their case. But I want to make sure
this is clear, coming from me as a civil rights attorney,
as an African American. Those officers did not take action
because Brooks is black and they're white. There is no
racial issue here, if anyone has any question about that.

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Watched the first forty minutes of the tape, okay, because
there was a good, very good relationship among the three
of them, and then they got ugly when Brooks assaulted
the officers and became a fleeing spellon Black Day News
for you, and what Greg said is true. That tape,
which I hope you played the night on Hannity regarding
the taser's a deadly weapon, came over just game is over.

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I look, I don't like to say game over, you know. Greg.
One of the reasons forget that we were all of
us here right, as it relates to the deep state,
by some views, premeditated fraud. Dacier's you know, the amazing
thing is I've also been right. I was right on
Ferguson because I had my sources that told me that
these witnesses were there. I was right about Richard Jewel,

(45:12):
my gut instinct. I was right about Baltimore, Maryland. I said,
nobody's going to get convicted there, and everybody's expectations were,
you know, through the roof, we know what happened there.
And then you have you know, Brock and Joe. They
always would rush to judgment anyway, and it ends up terribly.
You know what about those that are rushing to judgment
again here, Well, it's a rush to misjudgment under the law.

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I mean, the law is basically clear and most jurisdictions,
and certainly in Georgia, that if a police officer reasonably
believes he is facing imminent death or serious bodily injury,
he's allowed to use lethal force. I mean, that's standard.
It obviously turns the question of did he reasonably believe?

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All right, I'm gonna pick it up on that point though.
On the other side of this break up. We're going
to hold our guests over Leo Tterrell David shown, Greg Jarrett.
Eight hundred and nine four one sewn. You want to
be a part of the program. All right, twenty five
down till the top of the hour. Eight hundred and
nine four one sewn. You want to be a part
of the program. Let's go back to what we were
discussing in the last half hour with Leo Terrell David
shown Greg Jarrett. And so we heard from the prosecutor

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Fulton County yesterday about the charges that were now laid
out for the officer involved in the shooting at the
Wendy's anyway two weeks ago. This is what we've been
talking about. What he said. Now, remember in Georgia, you're
allowed as a police officer to use deadly force if
you believe a deadly force weapon could be used against

(46:47):
you or someone else to hurt somebody. And just so
happens unrelated matter, the DA actually said the following about
a teaser and charge with aggrevating assault of miss Pilgrim.
And this is for pointing a taser at missus Pilgrim
in as many of you all know, under Georgia law,

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a taser is considered as a deadly weapon under Georgia law.
A taser is considered a deadly weapon under Georgio law. Okay, uh,
David Shone Uh? Okay? Is it now based on the
tape that we have? Now we're in a legal realm.
It's not just the prosecutor laying out charges that they're

(47:30):
going to have. There are people like yourself and like
Leo and like Greg that are great defense attorneys. They
have yet to make their case. We don't know where
they're going. We didn't know until today. And I saw
it in the New York Post that one of the
officers ended up getting a concussion and had apparently been
tased and the process of struggling with with this this

(47:51):
man Rashid Brooks. So the question is what does what
an impact does that have? Because I got to imagine
that those comments are gonna be brought up in that courtroom.
Should we get to that point, absolutely, I mean you
should lead with that taint. Probably. This is what we
were discussing yesterday. Was talked about Tennessee versus Gardner, and
I mentioned yesterday that the question is the law is

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a police officer has the right to use deadly force
to shoot and a fleeing felon or a fleeing person
if he has reason to believe that person is armed
and poses an imminent threat of danger to either the
police officer or to any other third party. That's why,
as we said yesterday, it's relevant that a taser is
considered a deadly weapon in this case. It's even more

(48:37):
than that. Nobody asked to guess the mister Brooks had
already shot the taser, possibly twice, we're told. So that's
the way, you know, the defense of this case goes.
I have to tell you, you know, by the way,
the Georgia Bureau's investigation is as livid as our guests
are that District Attorney Howard did this. They were supposed
to be conducting an investigation, in this case, an independent investigation,

(48:59):
and they had no idea that Attorney Howard was going
to have this press conference or return these charges. So
they're also livid about this rush to judgment. It's against
everybody's best interests. You know, again, I see this. Let's
say they can't get the murder, you know, death penalty
charge that they're seeking here, Greg Jared. Let's assume that

(49:21):
and then they go to the other charges, the other
ten charges in this case, based on what we know,
what we see, the evidence we have at this moment,
and that's always changing. You know, we learned two big
new things today. How do you see this playing out?
David Shoon made the point that they might even try
now for a change of venue, which would be interesting.

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Do you think that's valid? And based on what we
know now? Where do you see this case, especially when
you look at it against the charges that have been
brought against the two officers, and the one in particular,
self defense applies to all of the charges. So you
know that defense, which appears to be a valid defense
under the law, you know, can result in an acquittal

(50:06):
on all of those charges. I agree that the Georgia
Bureau of Investigation may come back with a different result.
And I think this is a da who, since he's
undermined his own case, has to now disqualify himself. On
top of that, because of his outrageous comments of condemnation
against the accused, which are presumed innocent, this demands a

(50:31):
change of venue. He has ruined his own case, by
his own words two weeks ago and by his words
yesterday at the news conference and you're tag Leo based
on all of this new information. Well, I'll just say
I mean at the end of my opening statement was
change of venue and this guy should be recused. It
just proves once that part because people got caught up

(50:51):
in the George Floyd case. And all this tells you
what bothers me, Sean, is that it's all politically motivated.
It's most like the mayor of Lamanta and the DA
got together and say we got to do this, and
there is no legitimate legal basis to file these over charges,
but they did it anyway for the wrong reasons, to

(51:12):
satisfy a vigilane group. We are a nation of laws.
Those officers deserved due process, and what happened yesterday was
a denial due process and the overcharging of two officers
who were only trying to do their job. It is
a disaster and an embarrassment to the legal system. All right,
amazing analysis, all three of you, Leo, Terrell, David, shown Greg, Jared,

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thank you all for being with us. We really appreciate it.
Eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean, if you want
to be a part of this program, all right, let's
get to some phone calls here. One thing I haven't
talked a lot about this. This is sad. It seems
I think it was Tom Cotton that tweeted out, well,
if you want to be a lawmaker or you want
to be like an opinion person, maybe just Roberts found

(52:01):
the wrong profession is ruling on DACA defies any logic
today ruling against the president's administration and effort to end
the DOCA program. Remember, we went through this long period
of time when Barack Obama was president and he says
I'd like to do it by executive fee up, but
I just don't have the power to do it, said
it maybe fifteen twenty times, and then he ended up

(52:23):
doing it anyway. So there's now controversial five four decision
with Chief Justice John Roberts joining the liberal members to
author the opinion. You know, the court said that the
Department of Homeland Security ZEPHFORT to move to eliminate the
program was done in an arbitrary and capricious manner, although
they did not rule on the merits of the program themselves.

(52:46):
We do not decide whether doc or it's we're sending
this or sound policies. The wisdom of those decisions is
none of our concern, Roberts writes in his opinion. We
address only whether the agency complied with the siegural requirement
that it provided a reasoned explanation for the action. The
President's pretty annoyed about this. This comes after days after

(53:10):
an opinion from his own appointee, Neil Gorss such that
said employment discrimination et etc. But these horrible and politically
charged decisions coming out of the Supreme Court are literally
shotgun blasts into the face of people that are proud
to call themselves Republicans and conservatives. The president suggesting that
the Second Amendment could be at risk if he doesn't

(53:31):
get reelected, and I don't really disagree with him, because
that's not the job of the US Supreme Court. You know,
there we have enumerated separation of powers and coequal branches
of government. You know. Obama hails the decision, even though
he himself at the time spoke out many times thinking
he didn't have the power to do this. And Roberts

(53:54):
in the opinion, writing that the administration failed to consider
the conspicuous issues of whether to repay retained forbearance, referring
to the non enforcement of immigration laws, to remove those
with DACA protection. You know, it's it's it's like to
try and to thread every needle and avoid any real decisions,
because it seems to me that we've politicized in many

(54:17):
ways the judiciary in this country now too, another reason
in one hundred and thirty eight days, that your vote
matters a lot. All right, let's get to our phones.
Let's say hi to Bernie Louisiana. Next Sean Hannity Show.
How are you, Bernie, Hey, Sean, glad to be on
your show. You're a great American. Yes, thank you, sir,
You're a great American. What's going on? I listened to
this DA talk yesterday and there is a few contradictory

(54:41):
statements that he made referring to the taser. He used
it a couple of weeks ago in an NBC News
article that was written on June tenth, saying that the
taser was a deadly weapon, and now during this incident,
it's not. I mean, Greg I think nailed it by
saying he now probably has to recuse him in many ways.

(55:02):
And I'm sorry David Shoon saying I would play that
right at the beginning of the trial, because once they
know that the prosecutor in the case said those very
words that a taser is considered a deadly weapon under
Georgia law. Okay, now the law matters. This is what
I was saying yesterday. You know, you watch a lot
of these these high profile cases, and almost every time

(55:26):
they always overcharge, and what happens when they do it
is extraordinarily dangerous, and that is they raise the expectations
of a particular result that when you get into what
the law is, is not going to ever work the
way they want it. Now I'm not I'm not. I
have no idea how this is going to end here,

(55:47):
but I do believe in our system of laws. It's
not perfect. It's we're always trying to become a more
perfect union. But I would say that, you know, you
only got one side of the story yesterday. You know,
they kept talking about the tape and you know, the
forty one seconds, and that in fact, in the case,
Ray Schard Brooks was being peaceful and he was all

(56:07):
but he was courteous and professional. The cops were courteous
and professional. And then it was only at the moment
of the beginning of the arrest that it was a
decision of Ray Schard Brooks to resist, fight the cops,
hit the cops, steal the weapon, runaway, and turn and
fire the weapon, which, according to the prosecutor, is considered
a deadly weapon under Georgia law. It makes a difference.

(56:30):
A good defense lawyer is going to make a very
compelling cases. The most obvious thing that we know will
happen here, Sean, when I was in law enforcement, I
was issued a taser. It was the X twenty six.
It's an old model. I think they discontinued it. But
even after it fires the prong, you can still use
it as a stun gun. If you hold it or

(56:52):
press it up against the body and pull the trigger,
will you will send fifty thousand volts of electricity, you know,
through whatever clothing or whatever the person has on. I've
actually experienced it in training, and it will drop you
to the ground. Yeah. Well, apparently Devin gets shot with

(57:12):
his own taser, the other officer, Devin Bronson, and then
we find out he has a concussion. Okay, that adds
a whole new that adds so much context to this
whole case. None of that was brought out yesterday, and
that's you know, This is exactly what happened in Ferguson.
You know, people say, we're wondering, scratching their heads. How
comes Sean Hannity got it right. We all got it wrong.

(57:34):
And if you remember, Barack Obama waited, he rushed to judgment,
so many others rushed to judgment, and the media mob
the same thing in Baltimore, the rush to judgment. Well,
in the case of Ferguson, I had my sources and
they all confirmed to me that, in fact, there were eyewitnesses,
numerous eyewitnesses, that we're going to testify that Darren Wilson's

(57:57):
behavior is and his testimony was exactly accurate, That Michael
Brown was told to stop and continue to charge against
Darren Wilson, and that the initial altercation where the first
gunshot happened, it was in fact Michael Brown reaching in
the car trying to grab the police officers gun and
there was a struggle there. In the case of Freddie Gray,
everybody said, oh slam dunk, these six officers are going

(58:19):
to jail. They were wrong again, and they had raised
expectations and the results were not good. You know. Look,
and then in other cases, Richard Jewel Duke Lacrosse. We
were right too. We don't rush to judgment. Now that's
very different from George Floyd. There's no eight minutes, you know,
seven minutes and fifty five seconds and eight minutes and

(58:40):
forty six seconds total. Yeah, there's no ambiguity here. Some
cases of you slammed the door shut. You believe your eyes.
I got time for a quick call. Let us say
hello to Jay in Brooklyn, New York. Jay, Hi, how
are you? And You've got the next minute and ten seconds.
It's all yours sir, my brother Sean Hannity, big fan

(59:03):
of yours, patriot here unashamed of believing in God and
his son Jesus Christ. And I just wanted to I
just wanted to point out the fact that you know,
regarding on the death of George Floyd, it was tragic
and seeing the peaceful protesting and at times it's been
hijacked here of what we've been seeing. But through all that,

(59:26):
we've been seeing the Pandocratic Party and the Rechumplicans not
literally voicing the protection of religious a freedom of religion.
And I've been seeing how certain faith based groups in
New York have been mistreated even under a pandemic crisis,
like locking down parts and chaining them. I'm up, but

(59:50):
allowing the peaceful protesting through pandemic crisis has been justified.
Could you expand a little on that and how this
must be rectified? Because according to a person in their
right let me give you the quick answer, because I
don't have a lot of time. The quick answer is
every American, one glorious nation. You said it, under God,

(01:00:14):
one American family. We're failing. We're failing miserably. The first
thing children need, our kids, our grandkids, every kid in
this country. They need a safe, secure environment where they
can grow up. They deserve that. We can do it
with the United States. We're not doing it. They need
an education. It is the latter to success and more

(01:00:34):
liberty and freedom in everyone's life. We failed them miserably.
There's only one way to fix it. Don't vote for
these radical, extreme socialists. They're phony promises that will literally
destroy the America that we grew up in one hundred
and thirty eight days. You're the ultimate jury. All right,
got a break, We'll come back other side. Jeron Smith,

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Deputy Assistant to the President, Deputy Director of the Office
of America innovation. That's next an amazing Hannity nine Eastern
and your calls next hour eight hundred and ninety four
one Sean. You want to be a part of the program,
stay right here for our final news round up and
information overload can't really fix the heart of people, but
you can fix of the individual pieces that deal with

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the real problem, which is access opportunity. If you talk
about the police force, you know, it's about having a
police force that represents the community. When we talk about education,
it's about access to education. When we talk about access
to capital, access to capital, and those are the things
that we're really dealing with. That was Jeron Smith. He's
the Deputy Assistant to the President, deputy director of the

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Office of American Innovation. Will introduce him in a minute.
You know, it's an amazing time that we're living in here.
You know, you watch, for example, look at coronavirus, and
you know, pretty amazing a job by the President in
terms of the fastest and the largest medical mobile in
the history of mankind. And you know, he basically had

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to do the job of every state for them, because
even a state like New York that should anticipate events
like this, they were prepared for nothing, and they were
telling people go out on the town in early March.
They had no ventilators. They never listened to their healthcare
task force. Donald Trump built the hospitals, man in the hospitals,
converted the hospitals COVID nineteen all the pp It's amazing

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how they fell, but he bailed them out, and then
the entire food supply chain. They bailed out New York
and other states as well as did the people that
never shut down, working that were producing the medical equipment
for everybody in record time. An incredible job that they did.
They're not talking about reopening because they never shut down.

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They worked harder than ever to help other Americans at
a time of need. You know, you see the same
thing here now as I've been mentioning, especially in the
last hour. You know, we have many cops now reconsidering
their entire careers. And I can't blame them. You know,
the ninety nine percent that risked their lives every day,

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they don't get paid a whole lot of money. They
can make a lot more money, probably doing outside work
and many other things with less aggravation and certainly not
the abuse that many cops have been getting eight hundred injured,
rocks and bricks and molotov cocktails and bottles, some dead,
some permanently forever, you know, paralyzed. It's horrible. Nobody seems

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to want to talk about it. There were peaceful protesters,
but there were others within that group that didn't wanted
anything other than peace. Then you got the madness in
New York and the madness in Seattle, etcetera, etcetera. But
you know, for eight long years, Barack and Joe, they
had an opportunity, after Ferguson, after Cambridge, after Baltimore, after
a whole series of incidences, to make some fundamental changes.

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But it always comes down to there are those that
talk and those that do, and in this case, the
changes getting rid of the chokehold unless there is extreme danger,
imminent danger to the life of any officer. That happened
under Donald Trump. All the other reforms that the President mentioned,
and I'll also point out criminal justice reform, opportunity zones,

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a long term commitment to historically black colleges, record low
unemployment for every demographic group in the country, African Americans,
Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, women in the workplace, youth unemployment
in African American youth unemployment. None of this resurgence happened
in the Joe and Barack days. Didn't happen. They didn't

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get the job done. Just the opposite. We had thirteen
million more Americans on food stamps, eight million more in poverty,
lowest labor participation rate since the seventies. So, you know,
there's a lot to talk about in the next one
hundred and thirty eight days, and especially now that we're
seeing every indication the economy will bounce back quicker. Well,
you know, we don't know what the what the deciding

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factors will even be by the time we get to October. Anyway,
to talk about a lot of the reforms. Jeron Smith
is with US Deputy Assistant to the President, Deputy Director
of the Office of American Innovation. You've been watching, sir,
you know all of this go on around the country.
I watched the President daily. He did it last night
on my own television show. He's offering cities like Seattle,

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and cities like New York and Chicago all the help
they need to restore order. They keep rejecting it. He
help is offering the governors of those states similarly, Washington State, Illinois,
New York, other places the help, when in fact, the
President did help in Minneapolis, well, he put an end
to what was going on, and the same thing in Washington, DC.

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Why do you think these governors and mayors steadfastly refuse
to accept the help that the President is pleading to
give them. I just don't think it makes any sense.
You know, so many of the people that these elected
individuals were elected for was to help revitalize and strengthen
their communities, and what they're doing now is quite the opposite.

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But again, the President stands ready and willing to work
with any local leader to do what's right by their community.
But it starts with public safety first. If you don't
have public safety, it's hard to get to other things
like access to capital or revitalize the neighborhood. And so
to me, I think more leaders need to do the
right thing and keep their communities safe. Well, I think

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it's to me. You know, I know we have the
Insurrection Act. I know what the Attorney General is said
about it. Constitutionally, the language is clear, there's no ambiguity.
The President can go in and restore the order if
he wants to it may come to that. I pray
it never comes to that, but he's obviously ready to

(01:06:52):
do it if needed to do it. It's really though,
the jobs of the mayors now. The mayor, for example,
in Seattle is talking about an entire summer of of
where anarchists get to take over streets of a particular city.
I know they're negotiating, we'll give you these blocks back,
but we'll keep these blocks. I mean, it's madness to me.
There are homes in the area, there are businesses in

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the area, and there's absolute lawlessness, and she's talking. No,
it's a festive atmosphere, and they're pot luck, spaghetti dinners
going on everywhere, and it's like one big, you know,
summer of Love festival and all the other nonsense we heard.
I don't see that as beneficial to anybody when literally

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the mayor of the city is aiding and abetting the anarchists,
that's exactly right. I mean, here we are trying to
recover from from the pandemic and getting many of these
vulnerable communities back to work and being a part of
the American dream, and what these actions are just holding
up progress, and in many cases they don't even represent
the people who've had the disparity when it relates to justice.

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And it's fortunate that people with these worldviews are taking
advantage of a situation to make an ideological point that
doesn't even focus is on the issue at hand, which
is creating better police and community relationships. I think what
the President did was show us away we can bring
the country together. We were able to have law enforcement

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here and the families, and through the executive order, we
heard not only the law enforcement voice on how we
can create safer communities and bring the communities together, but
also the families who were affected through shootings and the
loss of life with the police officers. And so that's
a moment to heal, and I think more local leaders

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should talk about the way to heal instead of creating
more divisiveness throughout the country. Well, I'd like to see that.
I'd like to see it happen. I am beginning to
fear and apparently a lot of police. And then we
talked about other cities as well. Are calling in sick
all of a sudden, a much higher percentage than usual. Well,

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there's actually a term for that. It's called the blue flu.
We hear these broad, sweeping generalizations that put the police
are racist. Many of the big cities, though that we
talk about the police force is majority minority police forces,
So I guess that that application would be false number
one on the surface. But more importantly, you know, I

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always talk about the ninety nine percent that risked their
lives every day. Eighty nine cops were killed in the
line of a duty last year. In twenty eighteen, police
arrested twelve thousand people for murder and manslaughter, twenty five
thousand people for rape, and one point five million people
for assault. Now, if we defund the police or we
dismantle the police, which is a constant refrain we're hearing

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every day, and we allow people to burn down police
precincts or take them over completely and push the police
out of the way, I don't see that ending well
at all. That's exactly right. Let's see, they're not really
trying to solve the problem. You know, how can we
invest in these communities and promote and retain or recruit

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people from the community to serve on the police department.
How can we can and invest more so that the
wages are competitive and so law enforcement officer doesn't have
a choice with just working there or some you know
a job that's you know that has terrible wages but
doesn't have as near as many risks and UM. And

(01:10:29):
that's the problem that we're dealing with law enforcement departments
is that they have to um go far and wide
to find more people who want to police. And so
it's definitely a noble profession. And we need to create
more community policing and the recruit people from the community.
And that's what the Executive Order is calling for, a
recruitment and retention of law enforcement officers and the best

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quality law enforcement officers were we're pushing to create UM
great standards. There are standards that exist and many of
these liberal cities, like many apples, have old standards for
use of force and old standards for de escalation training. UM.
There's a way to do this, and and it doesn't
involve defunding the police, because doing that only hurts the

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most vulnerable populations. UM. The places that are affluent can
afford police department, they can afford the best police. It's
the vulnerable communities that if you defund would be hit
the hardest and or be more at risk or being
victimized by those individuals in society to which we want
police to protect us from. UM and uh. And that's

(01:11:32):
how we create safe communities. And that's what the President
is focused on, is making sure that police and community
relation is there and that trust is built, but also
making sure that public safety is that is the first
and most important thing that's always taken care of. You know,
it's very important. You know. I'm all for a lot
of the changes. One of the things I've been asking
for and really wanting, and the President addressed us as

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part of his reforms. UM. I know, most most police
departments have their officers, they have to go through firearms
certification usually every six months every year. Whatever whatever the police,
the city police demand, whatever it happens to be. I
don't see a lot of ongoing continuing education. I just

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happen to love martial arts. I'm a student of martial arts.
I trained four or five days a week. I know
a lot about Japanese, Brazilian jiu jitsu and quab McGaw
and kempo and situational street fighting, you know. And I
don't see that the cops have even the most basic
level of training. For example, in the case of George Floyd.

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It was already handcuffed. You're in full control. The conflict
for the most part is then over. If he's giving
you more of a problem, is more that you can
do with his wrist and fingers, very very specific pressure
point moves that will guarantee compliance, not one hundred percent,
it will guarantee all the compliance you want. And yeah,

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that's exactly right, and I think that's what the President
is pushing for that there's certainly a better way to
incentivize more police departments to get accredited, and that's what
we're doing in this executive order. We have on conditioned
grants where individuals get are more competitive for DJ resources

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UM if they're accredited and being accredited, make sure as
you have the updated standards on use of force, that
you have the updated de escalated de escalation strategy and
continuing education that you need, and also make sure that
you're using the best strategies to create better community and
police relationships. And another piece that we're really focused on

(01:13:38):
is corresponders. Many police departments work with social workers on
those social workers deal with issues where people have mental
health issues or are dealing with addiction or homelessness. Many
times police are overwhelmed with those type of issues and
it may not even that. So many times O doesn't
even include any violence at all. It's just someone who

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needs maybe a social worker, and we're going to invest
in that with a joint partnership between DJ and HHS.
But there's common sense ways to get there, and we've
seen some of those examples on the ground, and we
have many law enforcement agencies that really want to support
something like that, because no person hates a bad cop

(01:14:23):
more than a good law enforcement officer. All right, we
really appreciate your time. Thanks for shutting some light on that.
J Ron Smith, Deputy Assistant to the President, Deputy Director
the Office of American Innovation. You know what, when we
want to improve things where the United States of America,
we can make the changes, and that for me also
includes non lethal alternatives for police, which I've discussed a lot. Sir,

(01:14:44):
Thank you for being with us. Appreciate your time today.
All right, we got time for a quick call here.
We'll take calls for the next half hour, final half
hour of the program today, eight hundred nine four one. Sean,
if you want to be with us today, Zeke Florida.
Next Sean Hannity Show. How are you, Zeke, We'll be
watching your state in one hundred and thirty eight days.
Help us out, okay, my friends, Well, yes, sir. The

(01:15:06):
thing that I would like to talk with you about
is a term that you never hear called prosecutorial reform.
What you said was an abarition a little bit ago
in the overcharging in the land. It is quite commonplace
and quite usual, and it's what a lot of people
is calling racial injustice and stuff like that, or systematic racism.

(01:15:29):
It's quite honestly, it's socio economic disparities because the same
thing that they're doing to this police officer over here
with the overcharging happens routinely. And what they do is
these prosecutors like Comalba Hairs per se. Okay, they will
routinely overcharge to get the person in the jail system. Okay, one.
But what happens is this person has to take a

(01:15:52):
plea bargain. And if not that a lot of times
they're sitting in jail, they're losing their homes, they're losing
their families and everything like that. They overcharged them to
coerce them to take a plea bargain and then what
happens is they can stand there on election day and say, oh,
I got let me tell you something. I don't have
a lot of time this segment. We'll take all calls
on the other side, but let me tell you something.
You're und percent right. And a lot of prosecutors build

(01:16:15):
their political career on prosecutorial overcharging and abuse, and often
it blows up in their face and we don't learn
from it. It can't. It's got to stop anyway, good point,
appreciate it. Right to the phones when we get back
Hannity Tonight, nine Eastern Fox News. Hope you'll set your
DVR and we'll continue all right, twenty five nowns till
the top of the hour, eight hundred and nine four

(01:16:36):
one Sean. If you want to be a part of
this extravaganza, you know, I just I just don't have
any interest. As I said earlier in the program on
John Bolton, I just you know his statements that he
has made again and again. Oh the President, there's no
evidency soft on Russia. Uh you know what, there isn't

(01:16:57):
any evidence. Book comes out and now impeachment democrats blasting
Bolton's book after it turns out to be a nothing burger,
you know, even the corrupt compromise congenital liar shifts. Yeah,
he's no patriot, he's no Okay, well whatever, I don't
really care John Bolton. You know, look at what they're saying.

(01:17:20):
You can't you sign a paper, you make an agreement
that you're not going to divulge secrets that are of
national security importance. And as I pointed out, is yeah,
he didn't go through the process that he himself had
agreed to, and that he's attempting in this book to
contain classified information is clear. Now I'm just saying I'm

(01:17:41):
not going to go into the details. I really don't
care about what John Bolton has to say because I
now know that he wasn't telling me the truth on
a number of occasions, and my feelings hurt. No, do
I trust anything he does? And says, Nope, not at all,
because I know better and he knows I know better. Anyway,
all right, let's get to our phones. Eight hundred and

(01:18:03):
ninety four one, Sean, you want to be a part
of the program. Ed and Charlotte, you're on the Sean
Hannity Show. Glad you called sir, Hello, Sean, Great to
be on your show. Thank you for having me. Thank you.
What's happening for the Seattle? I haven't answered for the
Seattle's the zone in the six block area. And if
you can remember back in January when Roger Stone sixty
six years old and his wife who was seventy four,

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they were hit by the FBI's heavily armed guys that
rated their home. Twenty nine guys tactical gear on a
process crime and red dot lights, battering ram handcuffs. They
got Roger Stone barefoot, handcuffed them. They came on a
boat front of the house and the back of the house. Well,
where is Christopher ready to send out an elite, incredibly
powerful FBI squad and go into the Seattle zone at

(01:18:47):
five o'clock in the morning. Most of them would be
a high as a kite out sleeping and take it
over and get them out and get it straight. Now,
what's the problem with that. They can do all of that.
That's not an issue at all. The problem here is
the way I see it, and I think the President
is handling it perfectly because I think there's a bit
of a trap here and I think, a look, this

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is not the job of the president of the United States.
It is not his job to micro manage the states.
That's why people elect mayors, That's why people elect governors.
For the president. For the president to assert the power
and authority of these states when they are steadfastly rejecting

(01:19:32):
his help. Is basically plead you with them. I'll help you.
I've already done it here in DC. We've done it
in Minneapolis. We can help you in New York. We
can help you in Illinois, we can help you in Seattle.
You know, look, if it comes to that moment, I
just happen to know the president well enough that he's
prepared and they're going to be ready to go, and
they will restore order. It might not be pretty, but

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I think the trap has said, I just I would
rather while it's not that out of hand, let the
governors and the mayors, let them do their job, give
them the resources if they don't want to ask for them.
At some point, you may have to do it all
for them. We'll know when that moment comes. That moment
is not here yet, and there's something else that happens

(01:20:14):
as a result. You want to know what the New
Green Deal, socialist, radical, extreme democratic America will look like
if they win, If Democrats and ever confused Joe Biden
ever wins in a one hundred and thirty eight days,
is going to look like I'll give you some examples.

(01:20:34):
It'll look like New York, It'll look like Illinois, it'll
look like California, it'll look like New Jersey, and it
will be a mess. You'll get your sanctuary cities, you'll
get your sanctuary states, You'll get your open borders. You'll
get more money and cargo planes dropped on the tarmac
and Iran to appease Mullah's you will get higher taxes, confiscation,

(01:20:58):
false promises of everything is you'll eliminate the lifeblood of
the world's economy, and America as we know it will
look very differently by the time they're done in four years.
And I don't I don't know if if that's ever done,
if that's ever implemented, if we'd ever recover. My guess
is it's impossible. I think the damage will be done

(01:21:20):
and irreparable harm will exist. That's what I believe. That's
why I have a sense of urgency, and I'm kind
of an urgent person by nature. But it's like a
five alarm fire. All the sirens blaring in my brain.
This is not going to end well, and we can
you know, look, let me let me add it to

(01:21:40):
one other thing. You raise great questions, a good call.
I'm gonna go off and on a different tangent here,
so I want to thank you for your call. You
make a lot of great points. You know, there is
Wall Street Journal article today, Well actually I'm looking at
two of them, but one is by this guy, Daniel
Heninger's great writer, and you know it's part of their
coverage at the Wall Street Journal. They're pointing out San

(01:22:01):
Francisco's apartment market has now gone in reverse. The apartment
vacancy rate in San Francisco is now up six point
two percent. They point out the most expensive apartment market
in the US. Well, rents are tumbling, the tech sector
jobs are shedding, people are leaving in droves. Anecdotally. Was

(01:22:24):
Mike Huckabe the first pointed out to me that if
you take a U haul from California, Los Angeles or
San Francisco to Texas, you know you'll pay anywhere between
two thousand, twenty five hundred bucks. But if you take
that same U haul from that same location in Texas
back to those areas. You'll get it for four hundred
bucks or less. Why because you're doing U haul a favor.

(01:22:46):
Because the business of leaving California is a lot better
and bigger than the business of leaving Texas. People are
moving into Texas. New York is the number one state
where people are leaving. You know, at the biggest growth
industry in New York is New York government following people
that move out of state and become residents of other
states and hassling and harassing them to prove that they're

(01:23:10):
really residents of these other states. And they've got entire
departments set up. You move out, you declare your residency.
You follow the law one hundred and eighty one days
to be a resident of Florida. Huh, New York, Why
does Sean Hannity know that? M makes you wonder? Because
I pay a lot of taxes in New York. Mostly

(01:23:30):
my business or the job of television and radio has
kept me here. But the people are leaving now. If
people are going to leave these blue states, that taxs
you through the roof, that mismanage all of your money
that are incapable of fundamental safety that can't in a
state like New York with the highest concentration of people

(01:23:52):
in the smallest geographic area. Don't prepare for pandemics and
listen to their health task force if they're not prepared,
obviously for any big kind of medical emergency, if there's,
God forbid, another terrorist attack. But we are a terror
target in New York City especially, and you do wasting money,

(01:24:12):
you know, hundreds of millions of dollars on you know,
microchip companies, and you know all sorts of other green
industries and light bulb companies. People have had it, and
they're gonna leave, and they're gonna leave in droves, and
people know enough is enough. All right, Let's go to
back to our phones. Let's say hi to Grace in California. Hey, Grace,

(01:24:32):
how are you glad you called? Hi? Sean, It's an
honor to speak with you. Thank you so much for
taking my call. Discuss the app Thank you. I'm calling
to discuss the absolute hypocrisy and double standards that we
the American people, have endured over the last three months.
In light of what we've seen in recent weeks with
the protests and specifically the George Floyd memorial service in Minneapolis.

(01:24:53):
The consequences of COVID nineteen, as you're well aware, are
still going on. Many Americans are still stuck in this
kind of whole pattern while the world is going crazy,
especially in blue states like where I am. I'm a Christian,
patriotic American millennial, and for going on three months, the
American people have been told how and when we can
gather and meet together, specifically in houses of worship for

(01:25:14):
church services, funerals, and weddings, completely undermining the First Amendment.
And yet during the George Floyd memorial services, Americans watched
a church funeral service setting televised nationally showing attendee sitting
shoulder to shoulder, some masked but some weren't. Al Sharpton
preached unmasked. Singers were unmasked, which I found kind of

(01:25:36):
comical after churches have been advised to refrain from singing
to help stop the COVID nineteen spread. And the point
I want to make is that they had the right
to hold this service exactly in the manner in which
they did. But even as we speak, there are Americans
who have not been able to worship or gather in
their churches like that. The COVID nineteen patients have died
apart from their families, and their loved ones were forced

(01:25:58):
to grieve in isolation, not to mention all of the
other deaths from various other causes in the last three months. Recently,
we have seen innocent, heroic police officers murdered in anti
American violence, and no memorial services are being held for
them that I can see right now being televised across
the country. We are seeing a full display of liberal

(01:26:19):
socialist ideology that gives freedom for some these liberal socialist elites,
but not for us, the American people. And it racially
cannot be overstated, in my opinion, how much heartache the
American people have been through in recent months. And these
protests again are just another example of this liberal socialist
ideology that gives freedom. Hey, Grace, let me sum it

(01:26:42):
up for you. Okay, it is utter hypocrisy. You heard nothing,
not a word, not a peep out of Democrats about
no social distancing, not wearing masks or in the protest,
and they wore peaceful protesters. But also there were rioters,
there were looters, there were people that were arsonists, there

(01:27:04):
were people attacking the police, assaulting the police, not a word.
Donald Trump, all of a sudden, he's going to have
a rally. He's gonna do temperature checks, he's gonna have sanitizers,
he's gonna give everyone's gonna have to wear a mask.
It's all gonna be happening the way the protesters didn't. Now.
The only reason they're bringing this up is an issue
is simple because it's Donald Trump, and maybe he just

(01:27:26):
needs to say, well, it's not it's no longer a
rally but a protest. But in one hundred and thirty
eight days, let not your heart be trouble, Grace, because
you have the ability to decide. You and your fellow
Americans will be the ultimate jury. You get to decide.
You know. I'm I am. I am now about to
embark in early August on a book tour about Live

(01:27:50):
Free or Die. I go through the founding of this country,
the rise of radicalism in this country. I have a
chapter on how saying the Democrats twenty twenty agenda is
I give a case in point that this has all
been tried and failed before socialism and their history of failure.

(01:28:11):
I go through their lies and conspiracy theories and what
they've dragged this country through with their Russia collusion hoax.
I go through their their attempt to undo a presidency
and you know, because they didn't like the results with
this phony impeachment. I go through their allies and the
medium mob, the hate Trump medium mob, and their assault

(01:28:35):
on conservatism and freedoms in this country, and then of
course the president's success. Why because in a one hundred
and thirty eight days you we the people, this is
a monumental choice. This is a crucial pivotal moment for
the country, and I don't this is not hyperbole. I

(01:28:57):
shudder to think. I think America will be unrecognizable if
in fact they are successful. Now, by the way, you
can still get a copy, first edition, beautiful bound edition
for your dad on Hannity dot Com. Linda, I see
she's raising her hand for once, Linda from the Linda
from Philly, the Streets of Philly. But sounds like a

(01:29:19):
new yu WALKA. It's a combo. It's a combo. But listen,
I just want to give everybody heads up. Not only
do we have this awesome book by you, but we're
doing a little a little concert on your Facebook page
which I know we talked about earlier, but yeah, and um,
you know what we'd really love you to do, everybody
is go on Sean's Twitter, go on Sean's Facebook page

(01:29:39):
and tell us about your dad and your stories and
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going to be having this concert and you could talk
about some of the stories that we get. You know.
It's so I lost my dad six months before after
I started at a Fox, and I think about him
every day. You know, if you have your your dad's around, listen,
just a phone called, you know, to do much more

(01:30:00):
than that. Just tell them you love them. You know
what you think of how hard your parents work every day.
I mean I didn't understand this when I was young.
I was too stupid, But now I understand. Grew up
in the Depression, bought four years in the Pacific, World
War two. They're amazing people. You know. I can now
that as a parent. I can tell you the only
one thing I worry about my kids. That's the only thing.

(01:30:21):
I don't care what happens to me. I don't, Linda,
though I care. I don't care, you know, I'm not,
but I care about my kids. We all care about
our kids. If in honor of father's like you, we're
gonna say, go out, get shown this awesome book for
your dad, and tune in for this awesome concert that
we're gonna put online with John Rich. It's gonna be
tomorrow night at six fifteen. He'll be on tomorrow to

(01:30:42):
talk about it. But send your stories in Today's we
can read them. Awesome. Can't wait. I'm gonna be watching too.
All right, that's gonna wrap things up at today. All right,
we have full complete coverage, new developments, huge developments on
the indictment that took place yesterday in Atlanta. One of
the cops that was tazed had a concussion, and new
information coming out, including the DA himself saying oh it

(01:31:06):
taysers considered it a deadly weapon under Georgia law. We
got Heraldo, we got Dan Bongino, we got Greg Jarrett,
we got Sarah Carter, we got Leo Terrell, and so
many more great people news you won't get from the
Mob nineties. Then we hope you set your DVR, Hannity,
Fox News, have a great night. We'll see it at nine.
Back here tomorrow

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