Senator Rand Paul

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
I glad you with us right down our toll free number.
Thank you, scot chatting it's eight hundred and nine four one. Sean.
You want to be a part of the program, Big
Breaking News expose Caught on tape Project Veritas James O'Keeffe
fake news CNN. Yeah, one of their technical directors on tape, Yeah,

(00:22):
we got Trump at CNN. We we're the ones that
got him out of office. And then going on to saying, yeah,
admitting that fake news CNN. They brought in medical experts. Yeah,
we did that on purpose to create a story to
damage Trump because oh, we didn't really have much else
to do, and then admitting that, yeah, we tried to

(00:42):
portray Joe Biden as you know, a healthy, older person,
like show him in his aviators on etc. Etc. Remember
that tape of him in the basement bunker, and you
know you got the take and then you got the retake.
Oh should they put him on now? We mean, it
just is so obvious what they were doing, and just
in a way that they put them in the candidate

(01:04):
Protection program. It's all on tape. Our goal was to
get Trump out of office. It's on tape. We'll play
later in the program at the start of our next hour,
climate change will be the new COVID fear that they're
gonna sell. So it's everything extreme radical democratic socialist extremists,

(01:25):
which is everything that we've been telling you that they
want to do. Now I want to go back. There's
a lot of new news as it relates to this
case in Minnesota and the shooting that took place over
Dante Wright, and a lot of news that we better

(01:46):
start paying attention to. And there were all these incidents.
We described them in detail, the case of this army
lieutenant and Nazario is his name, Karen Azario, and that
what happened in Virginia. Then of course we got the
body camp footage of a police routine, although there's no

(02:08):
such thing as a routine traffic stop New Mexico getting
killed by the person that gets out of the car
kills the cop, or all the injuries of police officers
around the country, or the many police officers whose name
you have not heard, that have been killed in the
line of duty this year alone, and I you know,
and then you see the you know, here we go.

(02:30):
It's looks like we're headed right back to where we
were last summer, unfortunately, and none of it is any
good for anybody any place, anywhere, and it is it's
it's getting ugly out there, and it's getting very very ugly,
you know, And you know we've got it now when
you get to a point, we're a city manager like

(02:52):
the one in Brooklyn in Minneapolis that now says, well,
I'm not going to rush to judgment. We're gonna have
due process, and that person gets fired for saying they
believe in due process. Now, just as a side note,
you know, Biden even said there's absolutely no justification, none whatsoever,

(03:15):
No justification for violence. Peaceful protest is understandable, which is
progress for him, especially in light of last summer. And
he went on to say, we've got to wait to
see what the investigation shows. Biden, for one, Scott it right,
the entire investigation. Yes, you've all watched. I assume as
I did, the body cam, which is fairly graphic. The

(03:39):
question is was it an accident? Was it intentional? That
remains to be determined by a full blown investigation. They
actually fired the city manager for this. Now, in what's
happening in Minneapolis, you have the GOP blasting the Democratic
governor for smearing police and his post post shooting statement,

(04:04):
you know, smearing all officers. You know, now we have
you know, our state warns another life of a black
man taken by law enforcement. And now we also have
a tape of the officer in question. And now this officer,
by the way, he was a female officer by the
name of Kim Potter. Kim Potter and the chief, Tim

(04:27):
Gannon have now resigned from the Brooklyn Center Police Department
in outside Minneapolis. And in light of the eruption of
more violence and looting and all the stuff we saw
last summer that the media mob ignored and refused to
call rioting, and the Democratic Party Joe didn't even mention

(04:47):
it at the DNC convention. And you had to remember,
if you could recall, this was back in on September
of twenty twenty, Kamala Harris, you know, praising the group
Black Lives Matter, not people chanting. And there's a distinction
the group that is on tape chanting, what do we
want dead cops? Why do we want him now? You know,

(05:09):
pigs in a blanket? For I am like Bacon. The
group is different than some people. After the death of
George Floyd's saying black lives matter very different from the
group we make that distinction. But anyway, now the police officer,
we have the body cam video and you can hear

(05:32):
this police officer names Kim Potter. It's out in the
public domain. Otherwise I wouldn't give out anybody's name here
as is, by the way, Dante, so again, I just
wait for others to release names. Anyway, he's twenty years old, Dante, Right,
what if you listen to this now you're getting a

(05:53):
different picture. It does need to be a full investigation here.
We need to find out how this went so wrong
because a twenty year old is now dead. And but
you can hear the cop now. I'm not the biggest
fan of tasers, and I've gone through this in great
specificity and great detail on this program. Why it's it's

(06:15):
I don't like the strings attached, I don't like I'm
just not a fan of it. It's a close range,
close encounter option. I like the idea of non lethal
options for police. I don't think this is the best
one my own personal opinion, and I think there are
two things that well really three things. If you want

(06:36):
to solve these problems completely you're gonna have to deal with.
One of them is you're gonna have to have more
specific training for police officers, and it's got to be
like lifelong learning all throughout your career. You continue to
go back to the academy again and again and again
and get refresher courses. I think part of that training
has to be some level of martial arts training, some

(07:01):
level of conflict resolution training, how to talk people down
that might be on edge, or might be on drugs,
or whatever situation they're facing. Also, people have got to
understand that the cop never knows. There is no such
thing as a routine, you know, traffic stop. It's never
routine for the cop because the cop in that situation

(07:23):
and drivers, every driver needs to acknowledge and understand that
the police officer that's pulling them over as no idea
who you are, except whatever information might have popped up
on their screen or if they called in the license plate,
and they have no idea what to expect on the
other side. As we saw in the new Mexico tape
that was released yesterday, cop blown away in broad daylight

(07:47):
and they don't know what they're to expect. So they're
on edge right from the top. And there's got to
be an understanding of the public also, and it's we've
got to teach our kids how to deal with police
and how to me. It's a yes sir, no sir, yes, ma'am, no,
ma'am situation. It's not the time to argue while you
are pulled over. It's a time to just de escalate

(08:09):
and comply with whatever the police officers asking you to do.
If the police officer says, put your hands outside the car, okay,
open the car door, put your hands behind your head
and walk backwards, you do it. That's what I would do,
and that's what I tell my kids to do if
they ever get pulled over. I think everybody you know

(08:29):
has a part to play in all of this. So
part of its training, part of it is both sides
have to want this to work. If you listen to
that entire tape, you know, look at the way New
York police are being treated now with a billion dollar
cut to the NYPD. We saw last summer, we saw
them being you know, huge, massive buckets of water being

(08:51):
portal over their heads. A tape that came out this weekend,
and police are in a squad car and they're being harassed,
and they have these these little pig faces that they're
putting on the cars and calling them pigs. Listen to
the whole tape here here, I susy. I like the

(09:13):
fact that you got a punner, you spell, will we
catch them any education? That's a pig. That's a gift
for you. You get the get and and things are

(09:51):
on edge now the police officers now resigned, but we
do have a tape. And on the tape, and this
is why you don't rush to judgment. This is why
you believe in due process. One time Joe Biden got
something right. And on the tape you hear Officer Potter. Now,
if you're in a closed situation, in this case that

(10:14):
there was resisting arrest, there had been an outstanding apparently
a gun warrant when he was pulled over by Minneapolis police.
I don't know, it's not been reported yet. I've not
seen anybody ask yet whether or not that information popped
up in the cops car, whether they knew in fact
that it was that this arrest outstanding gun warrant existed.

(10:39):
But he did start resisting arrest, and that's when things
started to escalate, and then in close quarters you can
hear the police officer, this woman by the name of Potter,
Officer Potter start saying taser, taser, taser, and then at
the end, oh, shift, I just shot him. And the

(11:03):
argument that the police chief was making yesterday that it
was an accidental discharge, that she had planned on using
the taser, which is why she was warning everybody at
close rains, that's a danger to everybody that's there. Listen.

(11:31):
So you hear taser, taser, taser, Oh shiff, I shot him? Now?
Could it be a tragic accidental shooting. I'm not the
judging jury here. I'm just giving you facts, and so
you understand that that part we know, and there's going
to be a full investigation into all of this, and
we're not going to rush to judgment like so many

(11:52):
others do so quickly. I don't know, and I assume
at some point we'll find out whether or not the
police knew that Dante Wright had been sought after failing
to appear in court on charges that he had fled
from officers and possessed a gun without a permit during

(12:13):
an encounter with Minneapolis police in June I don't have
the answer whether or not they were aware of that
when they pulled Dante right over and he was wanted.
There was a warrant out for carrying any legal gun,
and he had fled from cops once before when they
tried to enforce the warrant. And you know, like the

(12:34):
New Mexico case, we saw when the cop pulled over
a guy politely asked him to surrender his gun, while
that CoP's family is now making you know that they
made funeral arrangements for that cop. Does it help when
politicians immediately rushed to judgment, like the governor of Minnesota. No,
that doesn't help the situation at all. It's even that

(12:58):
much more unfortunate light of the events that are unfolding
with the trial of officer Chauvin and the George Floyd
case simultaneously. So tensions are already high on this. All right,
we're gonna get to a lot of this. We're also
going to welcome back to the program Sergeant de Metric
Penny from the Dallas Police Force twenty one year Vet

(13:21):
Horace Lorenzo Anderson. You might recall he lost his nineteen
year old son and the chop Chaz autonomous Summer of
Love Zone last summer and community activists and friend of
Horace Lorenzo Anderson Senior Andre Taylor will be with us
as well, so we'll get to that. We'll have the
James O'Keefe tapes exclusively on the show, and much much more.

(13:43):
All right, twenty five to the top of the hour,
eight hundred and nine four one, Sean, you want to
be a part of the program. Some bizarre statements of
Anthony Fauci that have been coming out, and I'll tell
you where this is going. And you know, look, my
advice to all of you, just to be very clear
on the vaccine is this read every single thing you

(14:08):
can get your hands on. I strongly recommend that you
educate yourself. There are three separate vaccines, Faiza, Maderna, Johnson
and Johnson. There's been a halt temporary stay on the
Johnson and Johnson vaccine as six women temporary halt of
the use develop blood clots. This is out of nearly

(14:30):
seven million people that have received the vaccine, six women
apparently at issues involving blood clotting, one that died. The
FDA announced the pause say a half dozen reports of
rare severe type of blood clot and patients that receive
the vaccine and they're looking into it. But six out
of six million, I'm not gonna I'm not here to

(14:53):
talk you into or talk you out of what you're
going to ultimately decide for yourself in consultation with your doctor.
There is a wealth of information out there, and I
strongly urge you to even seek out opinions that maybe
specifically differ from what your own opinions are, and then

(15:13):
bring that information with you to your doctor and have
the conversation and the ultimately you're going to decide. You know,
when we now have gotten to a point where we
want to vaccine, shame people like for example, doctor Rampaul
will join us at the top of the hour. Rampaul,
when public admitted he at COVID, he now has the antibodies.

(15:36):
Antibodies usually, you know, begin to decline over a period
of time as your body adjust But then there would
have known as t sell antibodies. I'm not going to
give you the whole medical understanding of it that would
still recognize the virus that previously had been inside the
body that they fought off successfully. Then you have this
whole issue of vaccine passports, which I am totally completely against.

(16:00):
And I'm also a big believer in medical privacy. You know,
I got to the point I'm so sick of you know,
there's like this vaccine shaming movement going on. You're an
anti vaxer. I'm not an anti vaxer, neither as Rampaul.
I know what Rampaul's position is. He'll tell you. I'm
sure he'll probably mention it. His position basically is, if

(16:21):
you're over forty, and if you're overweight, he recommends. As
a medical doctor, I'll let him make the recommendation himself
that he probably didn't need to get the vaccine. He's
not an anti vaxer guy. But then, on the other hand,
somebody does natural antibodies may not want to get the
vaccine as quick and then, but that's something personal. It's

(16:41):
a decision between you and your doctor. You know. I
noticed that there was a report out now Erie County
Executive Mark Polling Cars I don't know how to say
his name, given it my best shot says all fans
will need to be vaccinated to attend a Buffalo Bill's
game this season. Quote. It literally says on this returning

(17:03):
all fans to stadiums, no need for mass testing. To
buy a ticket using this new pass app, you can
enter the game assured of your safety, and all others
at the game are vaccinated. No vaccine, no entry. What
about people that have natural antibodies? Now, I don't know

(17:25):
specific conditions, but there might be specific medical conditions that
give a doctor medical professional pause for one of their
patients to get the vaccine. That should be personal and private.
You know, I'm trying to understand why, why does anybody
think they have a right to know what other people's
personal decisions are. Now I'm having a hard time understanding.

(17:49):
I mean, are we gonna now? You know? Are you
have you ever been vaccinated? Now? As long as now,
stores certainly have the right to tell you that if
you want to enter the store, you want to enter
the stadium, you want to enter the concert, you got
to wear your mask. But you know, I get very
nervous at the idea of a passport. People choose to

(18:10):
do it. I guess that is a choice that they
might want to make. I'm I'm just to the point
where it's like, man, we want to get intrusive into
people's lives. Make make an smart, educated decision in consultation
with the medical professionals in your life that you trust
the most. That's my best advice for you. I don't

(18:33):
think it's my position to be telling people what to do,
and I'm advising you to get educated, to be smart
to talk to medical professionals. I don't want anybody else
dying from COVID ever. All right, back to this other issue.
So top officials now in Brooklyn Center in Minnesota, there
is just one right after the other. Now the police

(18:56):
chief has resigned. The police officer involved in this case
is now signed. Now there's there's a push to ban
police from even carrying a firearm when they make a
traffic stop. Did anyone missed the new Mexico bodycam video
yesterday that was released. If this officer murdered routine traffic stop,

(19:18):
did they have a right to go home safely too?
And then others saying, well, they're gonna ban cops from
using tear gas and rubber bullets, Well, what is the
alternative for dispersing a crowd? I mean, who's ever gonna
want to be a cop these days? You see the
environment that they're working in. It and I am still

(19:40):
even at the height of all of my criticism of
the deep state and those that abuse power, those that
were corrupt, even many now had been oh, knowing what
we know now, No, I never would have signed off
on that FISA warrant using that Russian disinformation that always
was Russian disinformation, that never was Verify a bull that
was paid for by Hillary Clinton, which they knew, and

(20:02):
they knew from Christopher Steele himself and from the subsource,
you know, very early on when they kept renewing the
WARP based on the dirty dossier that in fact it
was all BS. I'm putting that aside. So they've now resigned.
We have members of the squad now calling for an

(20:22):
end of all US policing. I'm not making this up.
Congresswoman to leave is now posted on Twitter that in
light of the death of Dante Wright, that it wasn't
an accident. Okay, I guess she's not going to be
allowed on the jury. She's now made a definitive conclusion.

(20:44):
If there is such an indictment or a case, there
has to be an investigation. You can hear the police
officer saying taser, taser, taser. Then oh, Schiff meaning, oh,
I just shot him. It sounds like the officer meant
to fire the taser, which is what the police chief
said yesterday, And when the city manager said we need

(21:06):
to process, he was just fired. Even though Joe Biden actually,
for the first time I could say in his presidency,
actually got something right, which is that we all watched
it and it's very graphic. Was the question is he says,
was that an accident wasn't intentional that remains to be
determined by a full blown investigation. Wow, Joe Biden is

(21:28):
actually rice right about something. We now have a new
crime wave. Now now we have the taunting of police
all over the country. This incident that happened over the
weekend in New York City is bad with it taking
little figures of like pigs and shoving it in the
faces of patrol officers in their car and threatening them

(21:51):
while they're in the car. And we saw what happened
last summer, and this idiot mayor of New York doesn't
do a darn thing about it, nor does the governor.
So now we have squad member to leave say it's
time to abolish the police, the police literally saying it's
intentionally racist. Can't be reformed. In the aftermath of this shooting,

(22:14):
which we've not been able to draw a complete picture
on yet we will overtime. It was in an accident.
Police in our country are inherently and intentionally racist. In
many major cities, if not most police departments are majority minority,
majority minority police officers. And she's saying that all police

(22:38):
officers are racist. No more policing, no more incarceration and militarization. Okay,
how's that going to work? From slave patrols to traffic stops.
We can't reform this, Okay. Then Biden now also went
as you know, there's no justification for violence, he says,

(22:59):
and rioting in Minneapolis, and why is it happening? It's
not what Kamala Harris was telling us back over the summer.
They're not going to stop. They shouldn't stop. It's gonna continue.
And you, you know, take note, you be warned. Beware
on both levels. Remember this. They're not stop. They're not
going to stop, and that's they're not This is a movement.

(23:21):
I'm telling you, they're not going to stop. And everyone
beware because they're not going to stop. It is gonna
They're not gonna stop before election day in November, and
they're not going to stop after election day, and that
should be everyone should take note of that on both levels,
that this isn't They're not going to let up, and
they should not, and we should go up. They should not,

(23:41):
We should not. Looks like the White House has haulted
plans to create a National Police Oversight Commission. Well instead
focus on changing policing through legislation. According to the Director
of Domestic Policy Susan Rice, We'll see what that evolves
into overtime. You know, we went over the past issues.

(24:03):
I don't I would like an answer to the question
of whether or not the police were aware of the
warrant for Dante Wright and the specific charge that was involved,
because it had to do with a firearm and policing.
But it's also a question of two you know, we
we need we need people need to understand how to

(24:24):
how to be how to handle being pulled over, and
police need also conflict resolution. Sometimes the tone and how
you speak and make a big difference. I've also, um,
I'm gonna show videos tonight on the show. I've talked
about that I'm not the biggest fan of tasers, I
mentioned that I don't remember. A friend of mine is

(24:45):
actually the one to turn me onto this product. It's
called Burner b y r n A. We'll actually show
you on TV tonight. We'll post it on Hannity dot
com after TV tonight and their videos and these are
it's It's got a five magazine capacity projectile with two
separate types of tear gas I'm sorry, two specific types

(25:09):
of pepper spray and tear gas. Although you can't have
the tear gas component in the state of New York,
of course, so I have to buy the other one
that's less you know less. This is a non lethal alternative,
but less effective. And I'm gonna show you and you're
gonna take a look at this thing. The good thing

(25:30):
about it is because I'm I'm a customer, I bought
mine and a friend of mine told me about it.
And what I like about it is it gives me.
He gives others an opportunity short of a shotgun or
a pistol that I have, you know, all strategically located
all throughout my house. But it gives you an alternative

(25:51):
to the firearm. And it's also for people that just
are afraid of firearms, the just are maybe this is
something that they would feel more comfortable with. I happen
to be a Second Amendment enthusiast, and I just you know,
I wish I could shoot more than I do, but
I can't because my hearing is, you know, after thirty
three years of radio, it's pretty shot. And I can't

(26:16):
stand it because sometimes when I go shooting, even with
interior and exterior hearing protection, I'll still get ringing in
my ears and it drives me up a wall. The
GOP House members have proposed the Constitutional Amendment to prevent
packing the Supreme Court. If Joe Mansion and Kristen Cinema

(26:37):
keep their promise to preserve the filibuster, the results of
a new poll would probably explain why. In West Virginia,
the nonprofit Foundation for Government Accountability, fifty two percent of
likely voters said they support keeping the filibuster, only thirty
two percent oppose it. In Arizona, very similar results, fifty
three percent say they they want the filibuster to stay

(26:59):
as it is, thirty three percent say they impose it there. Now,
what's the guy's name, the other senator Mark whatever his
name is from from Arizona he's up for reelection in
twenty twenty two. Between that and the border wall, that
could be an easy pickup state. A lot of talk
herschel Walker may run in the state of Georgia against

(27:19):
Rafael Warnock. Warnock actually is admitted that he signed an
email containing false information about Georgia's election integrity law. Yeah,
that's the one that Joe Biden was calling Jim Crow
two point Oh. They lie through their teeth about it
because it is far more inclusive than anything Delaware ever
had or even contemplated. It's more inclusive than New York.

(27:43):
It's more inclusive. Where they moved the Major League Baseball
All Star Game to Colorado, which I will not be
watching my own personal choice. I'm not leading a boycott.
I don't participate in boycott's and you know, and if
now you're going to need a passport to get in
to go see a Buffalo Bill's game, I will not
be going Buffalo Bill's game. And with all the politics
that they're sticking in sports now, I'm sick of it.

(28:05):
One of the reasons, you know, I love the fact
that if you look at a football crowd on a Sunday,
if you look at a baseball stadium. You get people
all backgrounds, all political points of view, and they're there
to enjoy their home team and escape a little bit
from the stress of life, which we're all feeling, especially
in the last year plus. And nobody wants to go

(28:28):
there and get lectured or hear politics. We want politics. Well,
you got the shows like this, you got Hannity on TV,
you got other shows. I think it's time that give
people a break. They want to break, and sports was that,
but now they're losing that and people are just fed up.
They don't even want to go. They want to get lectured,

(28:48):
they want they want to be able to everybody, all
political points of view, all backgrounds, races, religions. They cheer
their home team. That's a common It's something that bonds
people of different points of view for once. We love
our sports team. By our two Sean Hannity show toll
free at numbers eight hundred and ninety four one Sean,

(29:09):
you want to be a part of the program. Well,
Project Veritas has now struck again. Now I've said this
many times forever. Donald Trump has branded CNN fake news.
And by the way, the rest of the media mob
also and their mob. Why don't I say, Hannity, why
are you calling them a mob? Because they have a
mob mindset, you know. And if you look back on

(29:32):
all of these issues that we run through our list,
where we were right, they were wrong. We were right
about Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, right about Ukraine, right
about impeachment, right about Muller, right about you know, going
back early in my career, Richard Jewel, we were right
about Ferguson. We were right about Freddie Gray and Baltimore.
We were right about Cambridge Police, Uva. We were right

(29:55):
about Duke Lacrosse. We end up being right, right, right, right, right,
and nobody's ever going to write the no one's ever
going to tell that story. And meanwhile, your media mob
pedals lies in conspiracy theories constantly. Now we got a
quick update from James O'Keefe last week, which is a
huge win in the New York Supreme Court where he

(30:15):
now gets to challenge and frankly Discovery, which will now
be Project Veritas's next step of the New York Times
based on false reporting of him. And by the way,
Sarah Palin her case has advanced as well. Now they
have struck again, in this time listening to a CNN

(30:36):
technical director, a guy believing that CNN got Trump out
of office, admitting that CNN brought medical experts to create
a false narrative and story to damage Trump because they
had nothing else, admitting that CNN portrayed Biden's health in

(30:58):
a way I got him through the election, and saying
straight up CNN's goal was to get Donald Trump out
of office, and then saying, yeah, now we're going to
move on to climate change, the new COVID fear that
they will sell. It's all on tape. Let me play

(31:19):
it for you. I think when we did, we've got
Trump to him day. Believe it that if it wasn't
say it, I don't know that Trump would have got
voted that. I really don't think. I think if COVID
had I think I COVID hadn't happened, it wouldn't matter
what cover over. I know. I believe I came to

(31:42):
CNN because I wanted to be a part of that. Yeah,
I mean, like Trump, we did it. Like when Trump
was I got him, like his hand was shaking or whatever.
We brought in like so many medical people, so like
all tell a story that like it was all speculation,
but he was like neuralotic damage like that, and he

(32:02):
was losing it. He's unfit or you know whatever. We
were and we were creating story there we didn't know
anything about, you know, so that's that's what I think.
That's a propaganda you know. Um, we had nothing else
to run with him that time. We were like just
taking shots off about hoping something to tempt him, you know,

(32:25):
our presidential Like I want to just like I just
want to like pay ter of him and make sure
he's again Like he's definitely the whole thing of him
running during the entire president like run for the campaign,
showing him jogging, he's obviously a deflection and they're trying

(32:45):
to make him like, oh healthy about what we did,
I don't know, Like what do you mean weld o
sho shots of him jogging and that I'm healthy, you know,
blah blah blah and him and aviator Chase and like
it's like you haton as a young jeriatric, I like

(33:06):
so many arguments about like my dad be like you're
um where you know you're voting in famala Harris because
when he's gonna die, here's a presidency and I'm like,
I don't think I'm okay with that, right, I'm okay
with that. I think you could be better, but probably

(33:27):
could be and you'd hate her a boss, but he's
real and better than that regardless. Yeah, I don't I
don't see. I think I think we got him through
this term. I think there's just like a coach of fatigue.
So like whenever a new story comes up, they're gonna

(33:48):
latch on it. They've already announced in her office that
once the public is will be open to it, we're
gonna start focusing mainly on clim um uh climate it
like global warming, and like that's gonna be our next like, um,

(34:10):
it's our it's gonna be our focus. Like like our
focus was to get Trump out of office, right without
saying it, that's what it was, right, So our next
thing is gonna be for climate change head of the
network like just sucker. Yeah. I imagine that he's got
his counsel and they've all like discussed like where they think.

(34:35):
So that's like the next pandemic like story like that
will yeah, that will will be to death. But that
one's got longevity, you know what I mean. It's not
like does it defend at the ending to the pandemic
or you know, like it's gonna taper off to a
point that it's singularly not a problem anymore. Probably think

(34:56):
it's gonna take a year or so. They'll probably be
able to Milka quite a good climate change overload she prepared.
Unless that was just a cold arms. You get people
to start writing and then we'll assess it. I don't know,

(35:18):
but do you think it's gonna be just like a
lot of like fear climate Yeah, fear selves all right?
Joining us now with some insight into all of this.
He is the founder, the CEO of Project Veritas. We
had him on last week about his big win in
the New York Supreme Court. There will be discovery and
his case against The New York Times, which will be

(35:41):
a great test case, just like Governor Palin's as it
relates to the standard of reckless disregard and proving malice
if you're a public figure. James O'Keefe is back with us.
You want to talk about a bombshell. Wow, this, I mean,
you can't be anymore flagrant and exposing and expressing an

(36:02):
agenda and abuse of bias of an audience in a country.
Then what CNN is admitting here, Yeah, Sean, this is
probably the most explosive takes we've gotten from withinside CNN.
Charlie Chester, CNNs director, one of CNN's directors, and this
is a guy who witnesses what happens in the newsroom.

(36:24):
He's friends with all these people, and he says, quote,
look at what we did. We CNN got Trump out
of office. I a hundred percent believe that Trump would
not have gotten out unless CNN. And he says, I quote,
I came to s because I wanted to be a
part of it. And what's most interesting to me, Sean
is Charlie's admission in this tape. Charlie works for CNN

(36:46):
and has for some time that they don't want people
to know that's what CNN's intent is. There's this one
quote where Charlie says, you know, even though that's not
what we're saying, we're doing, we're doing it. And that's
the part that I think is the most because I
think if CNN would just go out publicly say hey,
we are the Biden administration and we want everyone to

(37:07):
know that. But Charlie here is making sure that while
they're doing this, they're trying to hide this from the
American people. And that's the part that's disgusting. Because Google
and Twitter all rely upon CNN to be their assignment editor.
There algorithms prefer CNN's news, if you want to call
it that. So they need to come out publicly admit this. Sean,
I think that's a big part of this. I mean,

(37:29):
you know, look at Jack a little late admitting, oh, yeah,
we should have published the New York Post story. Now,
I could tell you right now that I know for
a fact, having been briefed on people that have that
hard drive of Hunter Biden, which has been authenticated, I'm
not even able to legally take possession of it without

(37:50):
putting myself in legal jeopardy. And I think you understand
exactly what I'm telling you, Yes, yes, Well, you know
this is one of those bomb shows where there's multiple
installments here, and you know, he talks about how the
climate change is going to be replacing COVID as the
fear mechanism, he says, fear fear cells. It's pretty I mean,

(38:11):
if you haven't seen this, I encourage you to go
online YouTube, our website. It's actually trending on Twitter right now,
which is ironic since Twitter Jack Dorsey has banned Project
Viratas from Twitter, but the story is still trending. They
can't stop a good story like this one. And this
is Charlie Chester at CNN saying that fear cells so

(38:32):
the new thing is going to be climate change and
these these are just sean. This is just so devastating.
I think he's going to be fired or trying to
get confirmation from the network. Indeed, he's taking down his
LinkedIn page. Charlie Chester, the director has taken down. Why
is he going to get fired? I mean he's implicating
also the president of CNN, and that of course being

(38:53):
Jeff Zucker. In this tape, he's saying it's coming from
the top. And by the way, I mean, all you
have to do is look at their cover rgin you
can see that what he's saying is absolutely true. It's true.
But you know, we live in this Orwellian age where
you're not allowed to say that quiet part out loud.
In fact, one of the quotes from Chester, the director
of CNN, is that he actually uses the phrase quiet

(39:16):
part out loud. So it's all everyone knows this is true.
This is not shocking to your audience, but it is
the first time ever we've had a director at CNN
say it verbatim say, quote, we are trying to help Biden.
Quote we are trying to get Trump out of office
one hundred quote without saying it, that's what it was.

(39:39):
And our next thing is going to be climate change
awareness because fear cells and and you listen. I mean,
I can't emphasize this enough. Twitter and Google prefer this
propaganda network as part of its algorithms, so there needs
to be congressional hearings. I mean, if this is an
FEC issue, they're they're preferring a candidate that tech companies

(40:01):
are are are preferring this crap and labeling it news.
And Senna's gonna fire this guy, probably Sean. I'm willing
to bet that's what's going to happen when he's just
relaying the truth about their network. Now he's participating in it,
he's going along with it, and that's why I think
he Well, he actually says that's why he went to
work there. That's why he went to work there, so

(40:22):
he's not innocent. But I think they're between a rock
and a hard place, because rather than change the behavior,
they're going to terminate anybody who's honest. I called Oliver
Darcy and Bryan Stelter. Oliver Darcy hung up the phone
on me a little while ago, and we are trying
to get comment. I would encourage your audience to publish
the story. It's already got a million views. Get it

(40:42):
out there. You know. I had a rare moment where
I sent my team a tweet from me to Humpty
dumpty any comments about this. I saw that. I saw
that to keep doing those sorts of things because I
think that's putting pressure on the network to react. No,
I'm not allowed. I'm a like entitled to one tweet
a month that comes from me because my staff just

(41:05):
feels protective of me and too many late hours, you know,
fighting Alec Baldwin and Jimmy Kimmel and other lefties out there.
I do need to get some rest and get some
sleep as well. All right, quick break, we'll come back
more with James O'Keefe on the other side. Eight hundred
and nine for one. Sean is our number. We'll get
to your calls as well right as we continue. He's

(41:25):
the founder the CEO of Project Veritas, James O'Keefe is
with us, but there's something profound and important here. I'd
be negligent if I don't ask you my predictable question,
which is important because you even teased it when you
release this today and we'll show it on Hannity tonight,
you'll be our guest tonight on TV. And I think
people really need to see it because it becomes even

(41:46):
more believable when you see the person saying this and
the confidence with which it is stated, and that is
there's a lot more to come. Apparently, Yes, this is
a multi part series. This is headlined part one. It
gets worse. The next installment, probably released tomorrow after this,

(42:06):
is Yougether. Like I said, this is now trending. I'm
looking at the Twitter right now, number number six, number
seven worldwide, and the next installment they're talking more about
the COVID numbers and some fraud and malfeasans and some
and some things they've done on the screen to foment
and basically fraudulent I don't know how else to put it,
fraudulent journalism. And they admit it in part two. So

(42:31):
we're looking for a reaction from Matt Dornick, who's the
communications person at CNN right now, Sean their strategy is
to go radio silent and not utter a word. So
I think they're going to be forced too. And I
appreciate you putting it onto camera because I think the
imagery of this guy's face is I'm sure it'll be
all of Humpty Dumpty's unreliable liberal leftist socialist sources this weekend.

(42:54):
I'm sure. Meanwhile, they obsess over all things Hannity and
Fox News twenty four of it. I mean, it's like
these these people are just they need to get lives. Listen,
great work. When will we expect the next installment? Is
it tomorrow or the day after because we want to
book you in advance, It'll be tomorrow. And if it
gets trust me when I say the content is more

(43:16):
shocking than today, and keep in mind more thing we're
gonna you know, I admire you for doing it this
way because you make people focus on one part of
every story at a time, because it's often hard to
absorb it all on the other half. I want to
in a friendly way you've we've known each other for years.
I want to strangle you because you know here you're
laying out this huge tease on like what is it?

(43:36):
What is it? I couldn't wait to find out what
I got for Christmas as a kid, and I used
to scour the whole house to find the gifts. Well,
we have to do it this way to circumvent they're
they're trying to deprive a comment. But absolutely, Sean, and
one more comment. We stud the New York Times. We
intended to seeing them for defamation as well. And this
is what we have to do, holding men accountable. You're
gonna hold you. So you're announcing a CNN lawsuit, Yes,

(43:59):
and I'm happy to talk to you on your show today. Yes,
we were desaved by Anna Cabrera. Shed made some false statements.
So we are going to be suing the CNN for defamation.
It's about discovery. We've gotten past motion to dismiss in
New York Supreme Court in that defamation lawsuit. We're going
to do it again at CNN, and stay tuned. I
can't wait to come on your show tonight. All right,
James O'Keefe, thank you. We'll show you this at nine

(44:19):
eastern on Fox. All right, Our two. Sean Hannity's show.
Thanks for being one of us eight hundred and nine
four one seawn, if you want to be a part
of the program. So a lot has come up as
it relates to doctor Anthony Fauci. We now know how
political he is and it's gotten very, very frustrating for
so many on so many different levels. A year ago

(44:41):
and we've played this many times. Now he goes on
sixty minutes. Uh, a mask is gonna help. Maybe maybe
it'll stop one little droplet, but that's about it. Wearing
a mask is stupid, you know, now emerging into not
only you must wear the mask, now you wear two masks.
And now he's actually saying that even if you vaccinated,

(45:01):
people have to be careful indoors. You can't go to
a bar. What's the point? You know, we need COVID
booster shots, we may need that down the line. You
need a universal wearing of masks for the next one
hundred days or maybe in perpetuity or longer. I'm like,
when does this end? Then we got this whole issue
of vaccine passports, and another little phenomenon has happened as well.

(45:23):
I happen to believe in something called medical privacy. What
I've been advocating people to do. I am not a doctor,
and even if I was, I'm not your doctor. And
if I'm not your doctor, I ought not be telling
you whether you should or should not be getting a
vaccine or what is in your best medical interests. I

(45:44):
could tell you what I know and all the experts
that I've interviewed, and I could tell you that, yeah,
the initial two articles that went out on HCQ, for example,
had to be rescinded. And now we have, starting with
the Henry Ford study, now seven separate studies that prove that, yeah,

(46:05):
it actually is pretty helpful ivermectin as another treatment that
many doctors we've had on this program recommend. We've gotten
into deep depth on this program about regeneron and ELI
Lily's version of it, etc. And it just gets frustrating.
Here's Fauci. These are his most recent comments. And then
Senator Rampaul, also a medical doctor, will join us. So

(46:28):
should we be prepared to get COVID vaccine booster shots
now every six months twelve months like we get the
flu shot. That's something we should platform, you know, we
need to be careful about that six month number. The
study one only went out as far as six months,
so we know for sure it's effective for six months,
but it's highly likely that it will be effective for

(46:50):
considerably longer period of time. No, it's still not okay
for the simple reason that the level of infection, the
dynamics of infection in the community are still really disturbingly high.
Like yes yesterday they were close to eighty thousand new
infections and we've been hanging around sixty seventy seventy five thousand.

(47:11):
So if you're not vaccinated, please get vaccinated as soon
as vaccine becomes available to you. And if you are vaccinated,
please remember that you still have to be careful and
not get involved in crowded situations, particularly indoors where people
are not wearing masks. And for the time being, until

(47:33):
we show definitively that a person who's vaccinated does not
get the subclinical infection and can spread to others, you
should also continue to wear a mask for the time being. Well,
I would just get back to what the President said
even before he was inaugurated, that we need a universal
wearing of masks. He said for at least a hundred days.

(47:55):
It may well go beyond a hundred days. Everyone should
be wearing a mask, they should avoid congregate settings, they
should keep their distance, and they should wash the hands
as often as possible. We are not out of this yet.
We had eighty thousand new infections the other day. Now's
not to time to declare victory prematurely. We have not

(48:18):
won this yet. We will win it, but we haven't
won it yet. And my advice is simple. I would
read as much as possible. I mean, we have so
much information available at our fingertips. I would read people,
seek out dissenting voices on all of these issues, and
then in consultation with your doctor, then you make up

(48:39):
your mind and what is in your best health interests.
That's my recommendation, and make the best choice for you
based on again consulting with the doctors that you know, love,
trust to understand your medical condition. Now, the FDA did
announce a pause with the Johnson and Johnson vaccines. Six
women out of about seven million that got the A

(49:00):
and J vaccine developed blood clots. One died, and the
FDA announced a pause, saying they were a half dozen
rare severe type of blood clot apparently more in the
inside the naval cavity of all places, So something to
pay attention to. Rand Paul's isn't like me now, I

(49:22):
think he's pretty much had it with doctor Fauci, the
Great doctor Fauci, the expert, Doctor Fauci. When all the models,
all the predictions, the early recommendations were proven wrong, the
only thing that proved to be right is that older
people were more susceptible of hospitalization and potentially dying of COVID.

(49:42):
That remained constant, Doctor ram Paul. Welcome back, sir, hey sean,
thanks for having me. Yeah. I think at the very least,
doctor Fauci ought to have to pay attention to his
own scientist. So scientists at his own institute this last
month came out with a study that says, if you've
been infected by COVID and you've recovered that you have
immunity to all variants. And yet he comes before our

(50:04):
committee after this study has already been published and says, oh,
we don't know if you might not have immunity to
the variants. Was own institute has a study saying that
if you've had the disease naturally, you do have immunity.
The CDC has also come out and said, the studies
indicate if you've been vaccinated, you don't carry the disease
and you don't transmit it. But he has this upside down.

(50:27):
He says that we can't come out from Joe Biden's
basement until we definitively show that those vaccinated can't transmit
the disease. Shouldn't it been the opposite. Shouldn't the government
have to prove that somehow people that have been vaccinated
or transmitting the disease to tell us we should stay
in the basement and wear a mask and don't go
to restaurants. Because the science of vaccines has historically shown

(50:51):
that when you get a vaccine, if you don't get it,
you also don't transmit it. And so what science is
he basing this on. He's not basing on science. He's saying,
someday we know the answer. But until we know the answer,
you need to cloister and hide and stay in caves
and stay down in Joe Biden's basement. But the thing is,
the reality is all the signs points towards when you've
been vaccinated or you've gotten a disease, Naturally, you should

(51:14):
get back to normal activities. Okay, I tend to agree
with you and my friends that are doctors. But again
I'm telling everybody make your own decision. There's something else
that happened, and you spoke out very forcefully on this
one issue. Now you stated publicly you decided to disclose,
and I don't understand the obsession of everybody that is

(51:35):
in the public eye. I got COVID and they're tweeting
out I have it, I have it. I mean, I
don't know. Maybe if I did ever have it, I
would say I'm not telling anybody. I don't know. Maybe
I'm just more of a private person than your average bear.
I have no idea. But but you did it. From
a medical standpoint, I understand why you did it, and
I don't know what your course of treatment was. I

(51:57):
think I interviewed you about it at some point. And
the point is you have even if even if your
antibody levels go low, correct me if I'm wrong, doctor Paul,
but T cell antibodies would remain and would have a
remembrance of the fact that COVID had already been inside
your body. Correct. Yeah, so farther not, all the studies

(52:20):
are showing you have a memory response antibodies peak for
a few months, and everybody's antibodies will go down. If
they didn't, what would happen is the body would be
overwhelmed with the protein of antibodies because every infection generates antibodies,
and you'd have too much in your blood. Your blood
would be full of antibodies, not very functional. So it's
normal that they go down. The memory response is an

(52:41):
amazing thing. This isn't. One of the most amazing things
about immunology is that you have people who had the
Spanish glue in nineteen eighteen, they measured their immunity in
the lab to see if their T cells had a
memory response. Ninety years later, they had a memory response
the SARS vaccine, which was another COVID vaccine, not vaccine infection.

(53:02):
From two thousand and four. They've measured people's immunities seventeen
years later, they still have a memory response. And here's
the thing. People say, oh, you might still be able
to get it. Well maybe, but if you have a
memory response, what it does is it minimizes it, and
if you get it, you either have a subclinical, asymptomatic
or mild disease. They need to quit scaring people. In
all likelihood, those who have had it have significant protection

(53:25):
and will probably have protection for quite some time. This
also goes and one of the reasons why kids may
be more protected is that kids probably get colds more often,
and about twenty percent of colds are in the same
family as COVID nineteen. They're coronavirus is not identical, but
they share some of the same anogens or foreignness. So

(53:46):
if you have had a reaction to a cold, a
coronavirus cold, that means you have some circulating immunity and
some memory response that helps you fight off COVID nineteen.
So when they said COVID nineteen was a novel, they
weren't exactly right. It was a novel disease, but it's
related to a family of things that your body has seen,
so we do have some immunity, most of us to

(54:07):
this virus. Let me ask you your thoughts on the vaccine,
vaccine shaming, vaccine passports, and FAUCI saying now, now, all
of a sudden, he's just started saying this, no vaccine
is one hundred percent effective, and it's still not okay
to eat or drink indoors, even if you've vaccinated, Then

(54:28):
what's the point. I'm absolutely one hundred and ten percent
opposed to the vaccine passport. Your own medical decision making
is yours. It's your private decision to make. And here's
the thing they're completely discounting. But if you're twenty five
years old, I've got a twenty five year old niece
who's a teacher in Texas. She's already had it, she added,

(54:49):
had no symptoms or very few symptoms. Should we mandate
that should be vaccinated. Should we mandate that you carry
a vaccine car. She's already had the disease, she had
no symptoms and didn't get sick. The first time we're
going to mandate people get vaccinated against their will or
to carry these cards around. We're not going to let
her on a plane. Look, I had it naturally, and
so far I've just made the decision not to be vaccinated.

(55:10):
But people tried to shame you, didn't they They tried
to put pressure on you. Meanwhile, you were even though
you already had it. You have natural antombodies, as we're discussing,
but you also have no problem. You wear your mask,
you socially distanced, You are doing all the things that
they told us to do. You're you're willing to abide

(55:31):
by those rules for the consideration of others. And meanwhile,
most of them already got vaccinated themselves. But yet they
tried I looked at it. They tried to shame you
into getting a vaccine that you don't seem comfortable getting
at this point in your life. Well, the thing is
is everybody should make their own assessment of their own risks. So,
for example, if you're over eighty, all the vaccines are

(55:53):
way more safe than the disease. The disease is difficult
for over eighty, over seventy, over sixty five, if you're
obese and over forty, it's a bad disease. And I
would recommend vaccine for all those categories. But if you
tell me I've got a twenty two year old son
who's in good health and who's very thin, you tell me, oh,
he's got to get you know, the astra's ENEKO or

(56:14):
the Johnson and Johnson, I'm going to say, Look, even
though the risks are very rare, and I would recommend
those vaccines for people at higher risk, for my son
who's twenty two, I wouldn't recommend it, frankly, and everybody
should be allowed to make their decision because his risk
of death and the disease is about one in a million.
And the thing is is, if he were thinking about it,
I would recommend you get your antibodies tested because about

(56:35):
a third of the public has already had this. Many
of them don't know they already had it. If you've
already had it, why take any risk with a vaccine
and you're already part of her immunity. But nobody's even
talking about this. Nobody's doing any antibody test to see
if they need a vaccine when they're at low risk.
And by the way, people are not hearing you. You
just said if you're overweight or over forty, you recommend
people get the vaccine. That's what you just said. But

(56:58):
people will take eighty people will isolate your other comments
about your twenty two year old son, and they'll accuse
you of being an anti vaxer. Meanwhile, you just said
what you recommend as a medical doctor. Yeah, eighty percent
of those hospitalized are overweight. And so really, when people
try to say there's this predilection for race or this

(57:19):
and that, there really isn't so much it's obesity and age.
It's age number one and it's obesity. And here's the thing,
doctor Fauci won't tell you. And if he were worth
his salt and he wanted to save lives, he should
be on CNN. He's on there ten times a day.
This is what he should be saying. He should be saying.
The monoclonal antibodies can and will save your life. But

(57:41):
you have to go on when you begin to develop
sort of a bronchitis before you get too sick. If
you wait. And by the way, that's Regeneron. I can't
even pronounce the Eli Lily version of it, but there
are two versions of it correct, yes, And the interesting
thing is this, not only will it save your life,
there was this study out this week that says these
monoclonal antibodies that Regeneron has and Eli Lily has, they

(58:03):
can actually suppress the disease at an earlier stage as well.
So they're expanding their use to earlier and earlier stages.
But let's say you're forty years old, I can't make
you lose fifty pounds. If you're fifty pounds a boy,
it's going to take you a year anyway. But what
I can tell you is, if you're forty years old
and you're fifty pounds overweight and you get sick, I'd
go in and get the monoclone. By the way, I

(58:24):
can I can get I can have you lose forty
pounds and forty days with the NJ. It actually works.
You lose a pound to day. Doctor Paul Ran, Paul,
Senator Paul, whatever you want me to call. Thank you
for being with us. Thanks a lot, quick break right back.
Coming up next our final News round Up and Information
Overload hour. I had News Round Up, Information Overload hours.

(58:46):
Sean Hannity Show, eight hundred and nine four one. Sean,
you want to be a part of this extravaganza, all right?
We cantinue to follow the events as they're unfolding. In Minnesota.
The update news wise today, the officer that was involved
in the shooting of Dante Wright has now resigned. The chief,

(59:10):
Tim Gannon has also resigned from the Brooklyn Center Police Department.
The Minnesota GOP blasting the governor for smearing police in
the post shooting statement. I mean, you have this poor
city manager guy that was fired for saying exactly what
Joe Biden said, you know, was it an accident, was
it on purpose? You know, we need a full, complete,

(59:34):
thorough investigation. Now, if you go back to the summer,
you might remember we were one of the few shows
that were actually telling you the truth. Remember the autonomous
Chaz Chop Summer of Love Zone, Spaghetti Potluck, dinner Zone,
and city blocks taken over, police precincts taken over, police

(59:54):
precincts burned to the ground like in Minneapolis. The writing
that took place after Kamala Harris encouraging and even supporting
the bill fund for people involved in the rioting. Remember
she also said, they're not going to stop, and they
shouldn't stop. Listen, but they're not stop. They're not going
to stop, and that's they're not This is a movement.
I'm telling you, they're not going to stop. And everyone

(01:00:17):
beware because they're not going to stop. It is gonna
they're not gonna stop before election day in November, and
they're not going to stop after election day. And that
should be everyone should take note of that on both levels,
that this isn't They're not going to let up, and
they should not and we shouldn't let up. Take note
of that on both levels. Beware, she says earlier in
that tape. Okay, um, now there is some real questions

(01:00:42):
that have emerged here. I don't know the answer. That's
why you need an investigation. We do have something in
this country that it's called due process presumption of innocence.
And I know that for everybody that you know, the quick,
easy narrative is just the intellectual, lazy way to describe things.

(01:01:03):
I've gone into great detail how police in this country
need far more training than they have. I have talked
at length and I have no financial interest in this
burner gun, but I am a happy customer. And it
shoots literally projectiles. You have a magazine capacity of five.

(01:01:24):
They've just recently announced new products that they're bringing to marketplace.
And but it's but within the projectile or two tear
gases and one pepper spray. I'm not actually gonna show
tonight the impact it has on disabling a perpetrator of
some kind without killing them. A non lethal yet effective means.

(01:01:46):
I'm not the biggest fan of tasers because that's got
to be close range. Now, I want to play the
officer in this particular case. It's a female officer. The
one that I just told you resigned in this and
I want to play her saying taser, taser, taser, and
then saying, oh, sugar shif, I just you know, I

(01:02:12):
just shot him, and the police chief saying it was
an accidental shooting, and Joe Biden even saying, well, we
need a full thorough investigation. Let's play it. Taser taser, taser,

(01:02:33):
meaning because if you're in the general vicinity of a
taser being fired, you better watch out. I'm not a
fan of it. I much prefer the with the weapon
that I have purchased myself. I just think it's a
better product, and it gives you a lot more flexibility,
a lot more range than a taser does, and more accuracy,
and it gives you more more opportunities to stop somebody

(01:02:55):
without having to reach for the firearm. Joining us to
discuss this, Sergic Sergeant Dmitric Penny is with us. Remember
he's been a long time friend of the program. Twenty
one year veteran of the Dallas Police Force, President of
the Dallas, Texas National Falling Officer Foundation. Horace Lorenzo Anderson Senior,
he's back with us. Remember he lost in the autonomous

(01:03:19):
Chaz Chop Summer of Love Zone. His nineteen year old
son is Horace Lorenzo Anderson Junior is only nineteen years old.
This young man and also family friend Andre Taylor, is
back with us. Thank you all for being back with us, Horace.
It's great to have you back on the program. I
don't think anybody ever recovers from losing a nineteen year

(01:03:41):
old son or a daughter. How are you holding up
one day at a time? And thanks for having me back. Man.
I was I've been thinking about you, Louis, I said, minute,
and he was all right with me. I kind of
missed you, Louivis. I'm glad Andrea knows how to get
a hold of me. Well, you know, you can pick
up a phone and call me. I've come to be
very fond of you, and I care deeply about you

(01:04:03):
and your family, and I feel terrible about the pain
that you went through. Andre's good to have you back
to How are you doing. I'm doing well, China's good
to hear your voice. Man, Thank you for having us back. Harrence.
Let me ask you you just heard that officer. You
see what's happening? It seems like, oh, here we go again,
starting in of all places, Minnesota again, right, Well, and

(01:04:25):
you heard the police officer the city managers fired for saying,
hold on, we gotta do a full investigation, due process.
Joe Biden even said as much, what's your tech? I
think they need to start doing and start doing something
now instead of they always weren't doing it is it's
only obvious what happens. You know what I'm saying. Everybody
is serious. You can hear it. You know you've seen that.
You hear it. It's that's terrible. I mean, wow, you

(01:04:47):
know that's another parent that's got to do with that,
you know, and I can who I feel that parent? Man?
You know you'll never get that child back. You'll never
be able to hold that child again, you know. So
that's terrible. That's terrible. Yeah, and Andre, you and I
have had long discussions both on and off the air
about this, and that is better training non lethal alternatives.
You hear the cops saying taser, taser, taser, and then

(01:05:11):
the police chief saying, yes, it was an accidental discharge,
and when she ended up not firing the taser but
her firearm. But she says, oh, what are your thoughts
in a case like this, Well, well, let me say that,
you know, my organization is not this time as the
only organization that had brought forth true legislation police accountability legislation,

(01:05:32):
but that legislation didn't happen without law. Of course, the
FOP joined US Wall Cops in Wall Aspects, some of
the three largest police unions in the state of Washington.
I am not of the mind to villainize all law
enforcement officers because I know in order for us to
go forward, it's going to take a collaborative effort from
community and law enforcement. And so sometimes in these situations,

(01:05:54):
what happens is is people begin to believe that, you know,
all law enforcement officers are evil and there's intent to kill.
And as an African American man, I could say that
I've developed some great relationships with law enforcement officers that
a personally, you see, this is actually a cool thing
that you're involved in here, and that is you're proactively

(01:06:16):
working with the police to prevent incidents like this from happening. Again,
do it preemptively and find ways to integrate a better
relationship between police and the neighborhoods that they're serving and protecting. Yeah,
but it's not an easy route because people, you know,
they don't. They dislike me for that. They dislike me

(01:06:37):
because they feel like if you have any progressive understanding
of law enforcement and you want to partner with them
to change something together, then you are the enemy. But
my argument with individuals that feel that way is that
what other legislation has passed in this whole country, But
our legislation, Initiative nine forty, where we brought law enforcement
together with the community, that is the only time time

(01:07:00):
something has changed in this country. And in order for
us to continue to have changed, that's what it's going
to take. It's going to take a collaborative effort of
community and law enforcement coming together to rectify some of
these situations that we are dealing with. The reason why
somebody's continued things continue to happen because no one else
has come together with law enforcement to make something happen.

(01:07:20):
We are the only ones that have done it. So,
so what we say is that you know, just believe
the work. You don't have to believe me. You could
believe the work. The work has already substantiated that you
need to bring people together and not separate people. And
that's what I'm about you know, Sergeant Dmitric Penney back
with us. You're listening to you know, Horace Lorenzo Anderson,

(01:07:43):
as you know, he lost his nineteen year old son
and that Chaz chopped autonomous zone and at last summer
and listening to Andre proactively working with the police. This
is something that's been important to you. But you also
are the president of the Dallas National, Texas National Fallen
Officers So you know, people don't seem to know I
put the names up of a lot of officers that

(01:08:05):
died already this year that would killed them the line
of duty. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, no. You know what I
want to first offer my condolescens, Miss Anderson. You know
I followed this story really closely and I empathized with
his pain. You know, as somebody you know who growing
up in the inner city. You know, if they just sixteen,
I would as my cousin get killed in front of
me the day before a wedding day. You know, they
changed my life. But I will tell you that law enforcement,

(01:08:28):
the way these guys treated my family is what changed me.
That that's what inspired me to want to become a
police officer. Now I will tell you that twenty seven
years later, that death still impassed me the same way.
I can see the incident. I can see everything that happened,
but I can't even see my cousin's face anymore. So
I can tell you that, yes, that that is trauma
associated with that. Every family that goes through these these

(01:08:50):
type of crises, they will deal with some level crisis.
But I will say that, Look, last year, we lost
twenty thousand people to to gun bother and you know what,
half of those shooters happen that they happen in inner city.
Right now, there's about forty one hundred people that have
died from shooting violence. And guess what they're happening in
the inner city. So at a certain point, we gotta

(01:09:12):
say we're gonna police our feel we gotta do something
that something to make people in the community feel that
they're not victims. We don't want to push police officers
out of our community because you know what, when get
to do that, the people that are trying to victimize people,
they're gonna have free get free rein to take advantage
of people and kill people, hurt people exactly how they
did in the child. So I'm gonna I'm gonna be
one of these guys. I'm gonna always advocate for the

(01:09:34):
interest of police, and I'm gonna always advocate for the
interest of the people who can't advocate for themselves. That's
what I've done with the falling off the foundation. I'm
gonna continue doing it. A lot of people don't like
my positions, but my position is all which or what's right.
At a certain point, we're gonna talk about what's right
and not being victims. I'm not going for the victims,
the victimhood that's being pushed in the media, that's being
pushed by Camilla Harris and all these you know, all

(01:09:55):
these these people that are pandering to the left. I'm
not gonna go for that because you know, that's not
what helps us. What helps us is hold enough accountable
for our own behaviors. What we do around. We do wrong,
yet things will happen. But the bottom line is we
want to work together whitmore for us the fixteen problems.
Let me go back to a horrasum. You know you

(01:10:17):
watch this and everybody could understand it's not a personal
listening to this program, Horst that doesn't understand that you
don't ever recover if you lose a nineteen year old kid.
I look at the life of Dante right and whatever
struggles he was having. You know, this life is about
redemption too, and about an opportunity to always be better

(01:10:39):
and strive to be your better self. Andre and I
have had long conversations about that. And you see that
this happens every weekend and every big city. I can
come on the air every Monday and give you the
shooting count, the death count out of a city like Chicago,
and they never fix it, right, They don't even lift
a finger horrors to fix it. Right. Yes, it's it's

(01:11:01):
it's it's it's not got way out of control. You
know what I'm saying. I just want to thank the
officer for, you know, giving this condolencences. I've never mentioned before,
you know, but it's nice to hear somebody say, you know,
they they understand my story because it ain't just it
real it is. It's not my story, it's a it's
really the world because there isn't man. We talked about
this before. Without the youth, we have no future. So

(01:11:24):
if if we continue, let these youths just kill each other,
kill each other, kill each other, then we where's our
future because the kid the children are our future, you
know what I'm saying. So without them, we can't move forward,
We can't do nothing. So somehow we need to come
together to protect them and you know, make them feel
protected to where they don't have to feel like they
need to run out and go get guns and protect themselves,
you know what I'm saying. And start coming together as

(01:11:46):
a community. You know what I'm saying. They come together
as fathership, you know what I'm saying. And parents, you know,
parents need to come together and talking and have to
have these little meetings and have their kids there, and
you know, you know, branch out. We need to we
need to do more branching. Now. We don't need to
do the police. We need to work together. Everybody need
to work together on this. You don't saying it's said
that you see it on TV. This happens, that happens,

(01:12:07):
This happens in police and everybody wants you know, you
used to point the finger at everybody, But what everybody
feels to realize is if you if you're not a
part of the solution and you're part of the problem.
You know. So I'll tell you, Andre I will say
this to you. I know a lot of police officer friends,
and Sergeant Penny can back me up or disagree if
he wants, and they are afraid to do their job. Now.

(01:12:30):
They are afraid to do their job, you know, and
they fear that if a situation develops. First of all,
anybody ever resisting arrest being arrested, that's never gonna look
good on video. It's never gonna look good. No, And
we women, just let me say this. Let me say this.

(01:12:51):
I think that a certain level of transparency is necessary.
There are issues in policing and there's also issues in community,
right we I mean that, let's just be clear about that.
There are issues and some policing, and there are issues
and in communities of color with violence. So we can
understand that. Let me ask in this final question, let

(01:13:13):
me ask the question this way. You saw the videotape
from Virginia, this lieutenant Army lieutenant that got sprayed with
pepper spray? What should the cops have done better and
what should the driver maybe have done differently? Well, again,
I think there is a level of transparency that needs
to be brought forth. And I think that if people

(01:13:34):
learn to listen to each other, you know, and and
and stop feeling like they have to be afraid if
there is a contact with an African American and Mayo
U there is issues with that. I'm going to ask
you all one final question. Really want a very specific answer. Now,
let's take the case of this. This army lieutenant gets

(01:13:55):
a new car, a new tahoe as doesn't have a
regular plate as one of those deal plastic paper plates.
Gets pulled over. Okay, the police are he puts his
hand outside. He followed the command of the officer. Put
his hand outside the door. Police keep saying over and
over again. Exit the car, Exit the car, Exit the car.

(01:14:15):
Exit the car. Goes on for quite a long period
of time. At another point, finally after the police reach
in try to open the door unsuccessfully, then they use pepper, spray,
mace or whatever it was that they used an agent
like that, and and eventually they end up letting the
guy go. What could And you're working on both sides

(01:14:37):
of the sandres. I wanted an honest and I just
want your perspective. There's no right or wrong answer, although
maybe there is. What do you think police in that
case might learn and do better? And what about people
that are pulled over. What can they do better to
help police? Understanding that every police officers scared to death

(01:14:57):
not knowing what's on the other side of you know,
there's no such thing as a routine traffic stop. I
think that both sides are scared to death, and I
think that we need to pause and just be able
to explain what the situation is. If the lieutenant was asking,
can you explain to me why this is going on,
I think that the officers should have paused and explained

(01:15:20):
it to him so that he can have some clarity.
I think that that's what the problem escalated, because people
were feeling like, listen, I'm feeling violated, and I want
to know why this is going on. And I think
if people pause and just have a real mature conversation
to explain this is the reason why this is going on,
I think that would have been a better outcome. Sergeant Penney,
I'm sure you pulled over many people on the course

(01:15:42):
of your career, and our thoughts on that videotape absolutely.
First of all, let me say that that was not
a technbook traffic stop. These officers got out with their
guns out, even from a tactical perspective, I mean, were
dangerous from what they did. Even if the individual had
it done or whatever. Tactically that was wrong. You know,
if they thought something was happening and trying to design

(01:16:02):
the vehicle, they should have done it. Tony stopped. And
every officer that has been trained, we've been trained on
this type of stuff, so training, the approach to tactic.
All that was wrong in that in that um, in
that video, and in fact, it escalated when the when
the one officer went up to the to the vehicle
and started making all you know, give ready, rode the
wave and all that kind of nonsense. That's not how

(01:16:23):
we talk to people. And when you started start disrespecting people, started, uh,
you know, mistreating them, of course, you're gonna have a
certain level of you think. You think it was too authoritative,
and the guns probably shouldn't have been drawn that early.
Absolutely absolutely, I wouldn't. I didn't feel I mean, I
don't know how long he rode before he undred one

(01:16:44):
hundred seconds, but when the lights went on, he did
put on his emergency blinkers and he and he drove
to a safer position to park the car right right,
And I was going to say that that's fine because
we've let people in a lighted area and when they
pull over, but we were posting. We do all these things.
And when I'm talking to citizens, I want citizens to listen, comply,
listen to the words that are coming from me. Because

(01:17:05):
you can talk about how afraid you are. I get that.
But let's not this vehicle, so I can make sure
nothing else is in this vehicle, so I can clear
it and figure out why you didn't pull a little
bit immediately, or what everybody need to do. Let's do
it that way, and everyone's talking about they're being afraid
and this that other. Look, we're never gonna get anything
done what everybody's being afraid. And frankly, I don't want
any police officer inside of me just talking about their praise.

(01:17:26):
Let me tell you what I what I think tone
could make a big difference how you say things, sir.
I just this is just a routine traffic stop. Um,
we just for for your safety and ours. We're asking
you kindly the police exit the vehicle. Say it, but
say it like that. Just try it. Maybe you can
have you you can have your your hand on your gun,

(01:17:47):
but you don't necessarily have to have a drawn or
if it's drawn, have it pointed down. Um, in a
safe position of course. And but but I don't. But
I don't. Again, I don't. I don't know why they
felt the need at that point, though, I have to
speak for themselves and on the other side of it,
at what I tell my kids, and this is for
any kid, this is not a race. This is not

(01:18:08):
about race. Is that when an officer says exit the car,
I would say yes, sir, No sir, yes, ma'am, no, ma'am.
That's how I was raised to deal with law enforcement.
Let me get you home for tonight, right, don't don't
argue with every if you if you have a problem,

(01:18:29):
call me and we'll we'll we'll take it from there, absolutely,
all right, Horace Lorenzo Anderson Senior. We'll give you the
last word on us. Um. I kind of agree on
both ends because I mean, you know, as as just
being as a civilian myself just being pulled over right now,
it's the way that you react to how the police
did if they jump out with guns and everything. Now,

(01:18:51):
everything done, it's thrown away. It's Um, I don't know
what's going on or now I'm scared. They're definitely scared.
So anything I do now could be a certain move
where he's reaching for a gun or he's doing this.
So now you'd be so scared. Now when you pulled over,
all you want to do is just put your hands
up in the air and just you know, just kind
of like agree with the police officer, just to make
sure that thing is going on. But then sometimes you

(01:19:14):
have those certain police officers that kind of overdo their job,
you know, and want to wrestle you down and make
you know, rough you up and do all that, and
you'd be like, man, you just pulled me over for
a ticket. So I agree with both ends, and you know,
we just need to come together and just understand that
we steal all human beings. Everybody has to go home.
That officer has to go home to his family. I'm
trying to get on to my family. So there's no difference.

(01:19:35):
There is no racism, there is nothing as it has
nothing to do with it. We're a human beings. Man,
Hey man, it just comes well, it's good to catch
up with you guys. You know, Harris, were still praying
for you and the rest of your family. I appreciate
you got you got a special place set in our
heart on this program. For all the good work you're doing.
We appreciate it. And if we could ever help you,

(01:19:55):
let us know. And Sergeant Penney, you're a rock star.
Thanks for me on us soon. All right, eight hundred
and nine for one, Seawn Tull free number. All right,
let's say hi to Steve Is in New Orleans today.
What's up, Steve? How are you, sir? Glad you called? Great?
Thanks for taking my call. Sean. I want to jump
right in on this because I know my time is limited.

(01:20:15):
I've been listening religiously to your show for the last
five years because of the work you guys have done
with the Russia hoax Smaller pro ball that it rings
true to me because in the last fifteen years I've
operated a small moving company where I do all the work,
including all the driving. In the last fifteen years. Last
fifteen years, I've been pulled over forty five to fifty

(01:20:35):
times for traffic violations that I didn't commit or that
were not even traffic violations at all, including looking at
a state patrol officer in Missouri and touching my head.
I've had numerous officers pull up alongside me, profile me,
and in some cases get back behind me and pull
me over. And numerous times I've had a dog false

(01:20:56):
slee alert on my vehicle when there was nothing in there.
And in one particular case, I was put into handcuffs
for two hours while my van was systematically disassembled. Can
I ask you a question, how do you get pulled
over forty five times in how many years? Fifteen? I mean,
do I have a heavy foot? No that I've never

(01:21:18):
even gotten a moving violation in my life, Sean, I've
never been arrested. I've never had any I don't have
any outstandings. I've been wanting to call and talk to
you about this for five years now. This is a
personal situation. I have eight of the fifty warnings sitting
in front of me and my home office desk. What
is the profiling that they're seeing in you? Do you believe? Well? So,
I'm Caucasian, I am of German and Greek background, I'm

(01:21:41):
olive skin, I have shaved head tattoos. I think I
fit some kind of ridiculous profile, archaic profile of what
is used still in law enforcement. That's my belief. But okay,
let me ask you, of the of the forty five times,
how many of them do you think you were treated properly?
In meaning from that meaning from the time that you're

(01:22:02):
pulled over, how they how they treated you. How many
times would you say they did it appropriately? Inappropriately the
vast majority. I don't think any law abiding citizen of
this country with no criminal record should be put in
handcuffs for two hours because of a dog falsely alerting
on the vehicle. I think what is a dog falsely

(01:22:23):
alerting meaning that they smell drugs? Are Yep, that's exactly right.
It's happened to me about five or six times, ironically
two in Dallas. Do you have your own truck or
do you rent a U haul that maybe did have
some drugs in it? Yeah, so that is definitely part
of it that I do all running of vehicles, but
some of these are cargo vans, and so you know,

(01:22:44):
smells can linger that and there's a possibility that there
were drugs in it. My issue with this is first
and foremost that there there was never a traffic violation
ever committed. I drive in the safest possible manner for
my safety and the safety of my cargo and that's
that's just how it is. So when I get pulled
over for looking at a state patrol officer and touching

(01:23:06):
my head, then there's a problem there that that can't
be used as a rational explanation to pull somebody over
just to see who they are. I don't see how
it can be viewed any other way than that if
I'm speeding. Listen, I know a lot of people, and
I've never heard of anything like this in my life.
Just so you know, I'm not. I'm not. I have

(01:23:28):
no way of knowing whether or not all this has happened.
I'm just taking your word for it. I mean, you're
saying that touching your head somehow triggered a profile or
you know, I'm not sure if your car passes that
a dog would smell, you know, drugs from a previous
haul from you haul just by you passing by it

(01:23:49):
forty miles or fifty or sixty miles an hour. That
that doesn't make sense to me at all. Um, don't
I don't know what to say. I just don't. I
can't comment intelligently on what you're telling me because I
have no idea what all these circumstances are. It seems
very odd to me completely, and I don't want to

(01:24:09):
skit in a dispute with you. I would just say
to you, and this is my recommendation for anybody is
and I've been pulled. I used to have a heavy foot.
I don't anymore. And unlike I don't have the quite
the gift of Gab or the track record of cl
Brian too, you know, can talk his way out of anything, apparently,
as he mentioned yesterday, which was pretty funny. But I

(01:24:30):
would just say my general attitude is yes, sir, no sir, yes, ma'am, no, ma'am.
That's it. And now I'm not stopping that at all.
And I have had an instance one in my life
that was negative. Every other instance the cops were professional,
and in the one case, I think this cop was
having a bad day didn't particularly like me when he

(01:24:51):
figured out who I was and wrote me five tickets,
and I sat there and said thank you, sir, and
I went on my way and I hired a lawyer
and you know, paid the fine. They all they really
want is the money. They don't even want the points
on your license. I'm sorry you went through it. I
don't know what to tell you. I would say to
everybody for your own protection, you know, I would urge

(01:25:12):
everybody to follow the commands of an officer. If the
officer says, please exit your vehicle, Yes, sir, here in
my hands, show your hand, you know, because you want
to go home. And there has to be some level
of understanding that police officers that police officers are. Their
jobs are hard and they have no idea what they're
getting into a lot of times, anyway, thank you for

(01:25:35):
the call. Let's say hi to Steve Is in Kentucky.
Steve's a truck driver. And by the way, there's nothing
you buy in any store that you can't thank a
truck driver before. What's going on, Steve? How are you, hey, Sean?
I'm good. The reason I'm con is for US truck
drivers if we get pulled over, usually it's to do

(01:25:57):
like some time inspection or something for to make sure
that everything's okay. I'm a flatbed truck driver, so they
also had inspecting cargo real good too for that. So um,
if anytime I get pulled over or I pull into
a scale, I just say hello, good mourning or afternoon,
whichever it is, to the officer, ask him what's he

(01:26:20):
needs and get what he needs. And do you find
most officers are doing a good job professional, Yeah, they
do an excellent job. For me, I'm courteous. I don't
want any trouble with highway patrol or DOT or anybody else.
I just want to get down the road. So if

(01:26:42):
I get pulled over, not a problem. I'll do what
they ask. If they have a problem, then I'll deal
with it later on down the road. I'll let my
dispatcher and all that now and then just try and
remain as curious as possible to these guys. And yeah,
I meant to be Listen. You don't want to be

(01:27:03):
a number or a statistic or have something go south.
You want to go home, you want your kids to
go home. You want to live in a safe neighborhood,
you want safe streets, you want law and order, and
there's got to be some understanding. Unfortunately, there is always
going to be the one percent. I can't stop that.
But but in those cases it's even still yes, sir, no, sir.

(01:27:28):
I will comply, sir, whatever you say, and just if
you have to take it, and then you can call
your lawyer later and argue later. I tell everybody Never
argue about a ticket when you're on the road. Never. Yes, sir,
I apologize. I wasn't watching it. You know, I didn't
think I was speeding. But if you say so, I
believe you. That's it, and take the ticket. You want
to challenge it, do it later. All right. That's gonna

(01:27:50):
wrap things up for now. Hannity Tonight, nine Eastern, Fox News.
Mike Tobin on the ground in Minnesota again tonight on
after the curfew goes into effect. Let's see what happens.
Hopefully nothing bad. Dan Bongino, Larry Elder, Leo Terrell, Lindsey Graham,
Ted Cruz, James O'Keefe nine Eastern. Set your DVR, Hannity,

(01:28:15):
Fox News. Hope you'll join us. We'll see you tonight
as always, Thank you for being with us. Back here tomorrow,

All Episodes

Episode Transcript

The Sean Hannity Show News

Host

Sean Hannity

Popular Podcasts

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

Crime Junkie

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Senator Rand Paul