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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, news roundup and information overload hour. Here's our
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toll free number. It is eight hundred and nine point
one seawn if you want to be a part of
the program. A number of years ago we had on
this program, and he will join us here in a second.
Osab Hassan Yusev, a Palestinian author of the best seller
Son of Hamas. Now, his background is that he grew
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up on the West Bank. He worked for IS the
Israeli security and intelligence community as a double agent, and
he knows the inner workings about all things Hamas and
just how evil their worldview is. I mean, all you
really need to do is just take a look at
Hamas's own charter, which calls for the destruction of Israel.
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Or look at what happened on the seventh of October,
or look at the you know, last however many years,
and the hundreds of thousands of rockets that Hamas has
fired into you know, neighboring border towns, like they wrote
where we were, we were there, and the night before
we got there, a kabutz the neighborhood was hit with
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a rocket.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It's so difficult.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I mean, in ten years, ten thousand rockets have been
fired into that one town. Imagine that, imagine living with
that every day. Anyway, before the age of twenty one,
Masab Hassan Yusev saw things that no one should ever see.
He saw poverty, abuse of power, he saw torture, he
saw death. He witnessed the behind the scenes dealings of
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top Middle Easter leaders who made headlines around the world.
He was trusted at the highest levels of Hamas. He
participated in what they call Antifada, and he was held
captive deep inside Israel's most speared prison facility, and his
dangerous choices and unlikely journey, you know, through all these
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places made him a traitor in the eyes of the
people that he loves and gave him, you know, access
to extraordinary secrets. And he wrote about it, and you
know he's this This book became a huge bestseller, The
Son of a mass And anyway, we welcome back to
the program. Mosab Hassan Yusef, Sir, welcome back to the program.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Hi Sean, thank you for having me back.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Let's talk about your life and your time with the
group Hamas, and I want you to bring as much
color and insight so people really understand what Israel's enemies.
Why something like October seventh happened. Why why out of
Gaza Hamas fires, you know, hundreds of thousands of rockets,
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almost always in a state of war. You know why
they build three hundred miles this network of terror tunnels
instead of infrastructure and hospitals and schools. Just tell us
about your life growing up with them?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yes, well, you know, growing up, I did not see
the true nature of Hamas because you know, that was
my family's business and we had advantages, you know, to
be the son of a top Hammaz leader in that culture,
I was like a prince, you know, I had the
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protection of the family or the father, respectability, status, money, power, fame,
all that. So it was very hard for me, you know,
to see the danger of Hamas organizations. But as you mentioned,
when I was in Israeli prison and Hamas in that
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prison was killing our own people. I experienced firsthand Hamas brutality,
and when I say brutality, I mean killing, butchering, torturing
in the worst possible way, and that was against our
own people, was not against Israel. Long story short, this
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is when I started questioning the true ure of Hamas
and I started the journey to uh realize what Hamas is.
It was very hard for me to disconnect because it
meant going against the flow of my society, going against
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the interests of my own father, going against the interest
of our tribe basically, and that was the most dangerous
decision I made in my life.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Let me talk about the first of all, you just
mentioned how they treat each other. What was the what
was the general thought process about Israel and Jewish people?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
What were you taught as a kid.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
There is lots of hatred towards the Jewish people. It's
not a secret, and from early age that was expressed,
you know, by the parents, by the mosque, by the school,
on the streets here and then I said, is considered
as a hit crime there. It's just part of the culture.
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You know, to stab a Jew or to kill a Jew,
to blow up a us Uh, it's praised in that culture.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Is it praised? You know this whole idea of convert
or die? Were you taught that philosophy that the mission
of radical Islamis is that they are to convert the
world or kill those that won't convert.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
This type of conditioning doesn't happen just overnight. You know,
it's a process.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
But I'm asking was that what you were ultimately.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Taught in somehow some way? Yes?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Now, were you led to believe?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Were people led to believe that if they killed the
infidels that or Jewish people or people that were non
Muslim Again, we're talking about radical Islam as we're talking
about the terror group of mass Were they taught that
if in fact they chose martyrdom, that they would be
rewarded in heaven with seventy two virgins?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Is that true? Yes?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
But it's not only about temptation. You know, this is
really watering down, you know, the danger of such a group.
You know, we just they're not only tempted by a
promise in the other life, you know, it's a lot
more than that. There is the national dimension that first
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of all, they considered that they are oppressed, so now
they are victims. Once an individual agree to become a victim,
this is a very strong motive. Then this motive advances
when there's a religious dimension to it, you know, ideological
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dimension that Allah himself, you know, hated the Jewish people
and this is very clear in the Qur'an. And many
people say, no, this is not in Islam, And I
say no, it is in Islam. You know, there was
a big problem between the prophet Muhammad and the Jewish
communities of the Arab Peninsula. So Muhammad himself struggled against
them and he killed them. He fought against them many
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military campaigns, many raids. So in the Quran, you know,
you find that the Jewish people were disobedient and therefore
Allah punish them in the worst possible way. So now
you bring nationalism on the top of ideological extremism, then
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you have personal hatred to add to the recipe. Then
this very toxic brew, you know, would lead to a
solside bombing attack. So it's not as simple as okay,
you know, you take a kid and you tell him, listen,
you go kill a Jew or you go kill let's
say an American, and I promise you s having two versions.
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You know, then he goes It's a lot more complicated
than that. It's brainwashing. It's very sick conditioning and does
not take place. You know. Of course, not everybody in
that culture also fall into the strap.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Well, you know, let's go to for example, you know,
in the years leading up to this past October seventh,
where fourteen hundred Israelies were slaughtered. I think the sickest
part of this is many of the terrorists, the Hamas
terrorists used go pros, and as part of their go
pro you know, they wanted a chronicle. And a very
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dear friend of mine saw all of these videos and
said it was the equivalent of Nazi Germany, that the
lack of humanity was shocking. It shocks the conscience, it
shocks the soul. So what is in the mind of
the Hamas killers, the Hamas terrors as they are beheading
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even babies.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
You know, this is hatred in action. You know. The
Hama's brutality really does not differentiate, you know, and as
I told you, even against the Prestinian people, they through
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their rival party Fatah members from the twenty seventh or
twenty first story building alive. You know, this is how
bad it was in two thousand and seven. So Hamas
blow up buses, you know, indiscriminately, and they killed all
types of people, including Americans in the nineteen nineties and
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in the two thousands, every two thousands, so can you
imagine also a suicide bomber, you know, and they blow
themselves up at a market, or at the beach, even
university school, synagogues. They targeted everywhere, So that was also
very ugly. So if they have this kind of mentality,
that someone to blow himself up and just ruin so
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many innocent people's lives, there's no limit for how far
they can go. Hence I was not I myself wasn't
surprised by their brutality and what they did in the
communities surrounding us, but the scale of their attack was
much bigger than I expected. You know, that was my surprise.
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But their brutality to kill all types of people, even
the most innocent like children, women, stories about rape, even
they went beyond that. You know, they kidnapped corpses. You know,
they kidnap dead people because they think there's a value
to this corpse and they can exchange it for money
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or for prisoners. You know, they took dead people as hostages.
You know, there is nothing, you know that can be
compared to their brutality. Even when you say natism, it's
actually under a statement in comparson to what Hamas did
on October seventh.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
So I guess now you understand this. Do you think
that the people of Gaza the Palestinian people sympathize, tend
to many of them tend to sympathize with the terror
group of Mas or do they feel tyrannized by Hamas
because for example, As Israel was warning the people of
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Gaza to get the hell out or die, you know,
it was a mass that was stopping them from doing so.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Listen, even the Guzzan silence, you know, the Palestinian silence
that I don't hear a clear voice that stands firmly
and say Hamas does not represent the Palestinian people. Not
even one solid individual can say that. And this silence
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by itself is participating with Hamas directly or indirectly. Now
sympathizing with Hamas, of course there is there is a
big class of people in Gaza. I don't want to
say a majority because I don't have statistics, but there
are lots of people in Gaza who support Hamas, give
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them materials, support, and they voted for them. You know,
Hamas were elected in As the stript It has been
a while, but they were elected. Means that a majority
of people of Gus voted for them. And now a
majority of people in Gaza failed to renounce Hamas to
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reject Hamas, to say this does not represent us. And
this silence, you know, and inability to stand for the
truth makes them partners in this. So we can say civilians,
there are innocent civilians. Those could be the children, but
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the majority, I'm not sure about their their innocence.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Should it should?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Should the world understand that they are dealing with the
worst terrorists that want people that are not like them dead?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Is that how they should be viewed?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And do you think the only way to deal with
them is to destroy them?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
The only means I'm.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
The only cure for Hamas today, you know. And I
speak on the authority of someone who knows them very
very well. I was born in the heart of their leadership,
the founder of the movement, one of the founders of
the movement.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I bet that I bet they love you, Dad, wouldn't I.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
It doesn't matter what they wish. The truth is that
they are brutal and uh. The international community tried with
Hamas in every possible way, and Hamas still insist on
annihilating the state of Israel, and now they are gambling
with the children's blood, you know, and this is unforgivable.
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Let me tell you this is unforgivable. Haas gambled with
children's blood, and this is a red line for any
individual with consciousness. Hence, the final resort, and the last
resort is the use of force. There is no other
option and there is no way around it. Hamas must
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be removed from power. Hamas must be eradicated, and this
is what Israel is doing now. On behalf of you,
on behalf of me, on behalf of children of Gazza,
and on behalf of the free world.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Masab Hassan Yousef, the book is called was best seller
Son of a Moss. Thank you for that insight. We
appreciate it. And now I hope you stay safe so
you can continue to tell the world.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Thank you, sir. Eight hundred nine point one Shawn or
number if you want to be a.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Well.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Our two tier justice system, as we discussed in the
last hour of President Trump's attorney Alena Habba and Greg Jarrett,
is alive and it's well. Let me take you back
to July of twenty sixteen. Remember Hillary Clinton had all
those top secret classified documents on her servers, and that
does not include the thirty three thousand deleted emails with
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bleach bit on her servers that they never retrieved. That
does not include the same emails that were on devices
like BlackBerry's and iPhones that were smashed with hammers and
simcards removed. But remember this is James Comy talking about
no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute. Now, no reasonable prosecutor will
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prosecute Joe Biden. He's just going to get a stern lecture. Okay,
that's all. He's going to get slap on the wrist.
And then compare that to how Donald Trump was treated
on the same issue about classified documents that of Mare
at Lago.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Listen from the group of thirty thousand email else returned
to the State Department in twenty fourteen, one hundred and
ten emails in fifty two email chains have been determined
by the owning agency to contain classified information at the
time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains
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contained information that was top secret, thirty six of those
chains contained secret information at the time, and eight contained
confidential information at the time. Although we did not find
clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to
violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is
evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling a
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very sensitive, highly classified information. Although there is evidence of
potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information,
our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such
a case.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
No reasonable prosecutor wouldever of our prosecute ocase. Really, oh okay,
now this whole issue not only have classified documents that
he's getting away from. Now it looks like, you know,
in spite of all the lies we've caught Joe Biden
in as a candidate as a president, I never talked
to my son Hunter, I never talked to my brother,
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I never talked to anybody for that matter, about their
foreign business deals. And then Devin Archer testifying that well,
in fact, he was on the call twenty times when
Hunter Biden was talking with his foreign business partners, and
then of course dinners at Cafe Milano, you know, with
people like oh, the former first Lady of Moscow, or
Russian oligarch who interestingly never got sanctioned like other Russian
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oligarchs after Russia invaded Ukraine, and they gave three and
a half million dollars to Hunter Biden, and according to
Devin Archer, invested over one hundred million dollars in a
real estate venture. Now, Seamus Brunner is the director of
research at the Government Accountability Institute. He has a new
book and he calls it controlla art guards control of guarks,
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exposing the billionaire class, their secret deals and the globalist
plot to dominate your life. And that kind of scares me,
especially in light of President She and his visit with Biden.
And you know, considering Biden has never called out China
on unfair trade practices, intellectual property theft, never called them
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out on COVID, never called them out on the spy balloon,
never calls them out on their hostile maneuvers against our
fighter jets in international airspace, or hostile maneuvers in international
waterways against our navy. Could it be that Joe Biden
is compromised by China? Makes you wonder, Here's Biden talking
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about the upcoming meeting with President She. We're not trying
to decouple from China.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Listen, how would you define success with your meeting with
President She?
Speaker 6 (18:52):
If you're back on a normal course of corresponding, being
able to pick up a phone to talk to one
another as your crisis, being able to make sure our
militaries still have contact with one another. We can't take
As I told you, we're not trying to decouple from China,
but we're What we're trying to do is change the
relationship for the better. From my perspective, if in fact,
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the Chinese people who are in trouble right now economically,
if the average homeowner or the homeowner, if the average
citizen in China is able to have a decent paid
job that benefits them and benefits all of us. But
I'm not going to continue to sustain the support for
positions where if we want to invest in China we
have to turn over all our trade.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Seekerts all right. Seamus Bruner joins US now. He works
with Peter Switzer at the Government Accountability Institute. They do
phenomenal work. You might remember, all of this information regarding
the Biden family syndicate came from Peter's book Secret Empires,
and his new book, by the Way, Control of Garcs,
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exposing the billionaire class, is destined to be a bestseller.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
How are you, sir, Sean.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
It's great to be with you. You know, Peter Schweitzer
and I we follow the money. We followed it to
James Comy and found the money he was getting from
defense intelligence contractors through the revolving door. We followed it
to the bidens, and now we followed it all the
way to the top, to the globalist elites. I call
them the controller arcs. And what we've found is really
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shocking stuff. First time ever we've crunched the numbers and
found that men like Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg,
all of whom love China. By the way, they don't
want to decouple from China. They want to make up
the US more like China in a lot of ways.
You saw that in the pandemic. You see it with
the censorship and the deplatforming of conservatives. We found that
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they each have added tens of billions of dollars to
their personal net worth since the pandemic began. Now that
may not surprise the savvy listeners of your show, but
what really blew me away was how they were making
their money. And they're doing it by instructing tyrannical systems
like the censorship and taking the Hunter Biden laptop story
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off of Facebook, and each of these systems that they're
building are beginning to control every aspect of our lives.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Well, it's happening. Go into what the premise of this
book is. For example, your investigation now took more than
two years, and it is unbelievable the amount of footnotes,
the amount of work you did on this. You pick
three specific investigations, the issue of COVID, the issue of censorship,
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the issue of artificial intelligence, which was part of the
deal that Biden made this week with President Chi which
I don't like, and that is that he makes this
big deal saying, oh, well, we both agree that we'll
never use artificial intelligence when it comes to any nuclear technology.
Why would we ever trust the communist Chinese ever?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Again, it's so true, Sean, and you hear this all
the time, that COVID is over, it's in the past. No,
COVID was a blueprint for the future. It showed that
the pandemic was profitable, the locker downs were lucrative, and
the control that this offered equal to a lot of
cash for these control of guards. So yeah, the systems
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you mentioned energy, Imagine waking up in the middle of
the night, drenched in sweat. You go to your thermostat,
you try to turn it down, but it's lock. You
can't control the temperature in your own home. Now this
may sound like some conspiracy theory, it's not. It's already
happening in Jeff Bezos and Amazon and Google. They're making
these so called smart thermostats, and people in Colorado and
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in Texas and even in Gavin Newsom's Communist Republic of
California have experienced not being able to set the temperatures
in their own homes. Regarding the food systems, everybody knows
that Bill Gates is buying up a lot of farmland.
But most people don't know is how or why Gates,
this former software software salesman, is doing it. And why
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you know why he's doing it is he's cornering the
food supply. He's pushing for regulations like banning cattle under
the guise of saving the planet. When AOC goes out
and says that cal flatulence is gonna end the world,
she didn't just dream this up. It comes from a
white paper from the billimal Inda Gates Foundation or the
World Economic Forum in Davos. And you know, we went
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through mountains of financial filings and I R S nine
nineties to really find out what the food agenda is here.
It's why Bill Gates is investing in these fake meat companies.
He thinks that if you eat a fake lab grown hamburger,
you're going to save the planet. Actually it just enriches him.
And then on the information front, Sean, everybody's you know,
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we're all very familiar somere you know, some more than
others about how the censorship of the big tech companies
is affecting our lives, infecting affecting how we can share
information with each other. This is just the beginning. These
control guards. They're harvesting your data, they're ratcheting up AI,
and they're going to use it to eliminate as many
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of your jobs as possible. Some estimates up to forty
percent of the jobs just gone. It's happening right now.
No coincidence that Bill Gates backed open AI. That's the
chat GPT maker is funding studies on universal basic income. So,
I mean, it's pretty frightening stuff. It's happening right now.
It's not too late. But we need to be armed
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with the facts.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Well, we do need to be armed with the facts,
all right, quick break more. But Seamus Bruner, he is
the director of Research for the Government Accountability Institute. His
new book is out, Control of Garks exposing the billionaire class.
There's secret deals and the globalist plot to dominate your life.
Amazon dot com, Hannity dot com, bookstores all around the country.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
All right, we get to you now.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Seamus Bruner is with us with the Government Accountability Institute.
Is brand new book just out this week, Controller Garks
exposing the billionaire class. There's secret deals and the globalist
plot to dominate your life. Amazon dot com, Hannity dot com,
bookstores all around the country. The fact that the Biden
family syndicate, you know, and Peter pointed this out in
secret Empires and the Biden family did what one billion
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that later became one point five billion with the Bank
of China. We now have the what's app message thanks
to Congressman James Comer of the House Oversight Committee. I'm
sitting here with my father. He's talking to a top CEFC.
That's the kind of energy conglomerate state run. We're wondering
why you didn't keep your commitments. In between everybody he
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knows and my ability to hold the grudge. You're gonna
regret not following through on what you promised, and lo
and behold. Five days later, five million dollars ends up
in one of their show corporations, identified by James Comer.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Can you explain that?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Yeah, that's right, Sean. I mean, your listeners know very
well how the Biden family have sold out this country
to communist China, but they haven't done it alone. And
in a lot of ways, you look at Joe Biden
and you think he's not really in control of a
lot of his own faculties. There's got to be some
other people pulling the strings. And the big tech guys,
Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg, I mean Zuckerberg keeps a
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copy of Shijing Ping's writings on his desk. I mean,
shockingly and bizarrely, Mark Zuckerberg asked she to give his
child to the name in Chinese for Zuckerberg's first born child.
Bill Gates, likewise, he's been for decades working hand in
glove with the CCP, helping them to censor their own
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opposition within China on platforms like he's got you know, Skype,
and he has messaging platforms through Microsoft. He helps China
identify its dissident journalists. And so what all this really
amounts to? And you really saw it last night or
the other night in California with the standing ovation. People
like Larry Fink from Blackrock. They don't want to decouple
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from China. Obviously, they like China. They like the Chinese
that the efficiency, you know, they call it efficiency. During
the pandemic, Bill Gates and even Tony Fauci praised the
efficiency of China. They want to be able to use
that efficiency on us.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Well, I think that's one hundred percent true. But they
have a history of never playing fair. I don't think
Joe has the stomach or the willingness to ever confront
our number one geopolitical foe that has now been pushed
into the arms of Vladimir Putin and the Mullows in Iran,
which I call the new access of evil?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Am I wrong on that?
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Not at all? Not at all. Sean and George Soros
is a big character in this book. He has said
that China's essential for building the new World order. George Soros,
of course, is funding these anti American and pro hamask
groups that are destroying the country.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Have you been able to trace that money directly back
to him?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Well, his Open Society network is funding a lot of
these groups.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yes, and that's is that all his money.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
The Open Society Institute. Yes, that's George so money. And
what's even more shocking actually is that George Soros. We
were wondering if he was even going to be around
by the time the book came out, So we tracked
down each of his children, and Alexander Soros has just
been put in charge. He's the heir to the dark
money fortune. He's even more radical than his father.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Let me ask you about this.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
You talk in the book a lot about, for example,
the likes of Bill Gates, or you talk about other
people Silicon Valley and the great reception for example, we
saw from them. I assume that this is a big
part of why you call it control of guards. And
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I don't think you know, obviously you've coined the term
in that sense. What are they doing that the American
people need to know the most well right now?
Speaker 4 (28:49):
I the digital ID is a very important issue that
people need to know more about. I mean, just last week,
the Bill I Molend, the Gates Foundation, the United Nations,
the Rockefeller Foundation, they hosted an event called fifty in
fifty where they're saying that they're going to roll out
digital ID regimes in fifty countries within five years. That's
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just right around the corner. And you see huge push
from companies like Blackrock and Larry Fink to get behind
digital ID and once they can link all of your
data up to a centralized database and tie it to
a digital ID, this will be like your gun purchases
or you know, like anything that you buy. They are
using kind of the AI to create profiles on you
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and find out how just how opposed to the Biden
regime you might be. This is exactly what China has.
It's a social credit score system. It's a de facto
social credit score system. They're very on board with that system.
Blackrocks on board with it. Microsoft and Bill Gates are
on board with it. And so you see, like I said,
they're not trying to decouple from China. They're borrowing their
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pages from the Chinese Communist Party playbook and they're trying
to implement them right here in the USA.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Well, we appreciate it. I hope people will pay attention
to this book. It's called Controller Garks Exposing the billionaire class,
their secret deals, and the globalist plot to dominate your life.
It's on Amazon dot com. We put a link on
Hannity dot com. Now in bookstores all around the country.
Seamus Bruner, We thank you, appreciate you being with us.
Eight hundred and ninety four one. Shawn Is on number