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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Coming up next our final News Roundup and Information Overload Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
All Right, News Roundup, Information Overload Hour, Toll free. Our
number is eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn if
you want to be a part of the program. So,
Jim Jordan House Judiciary Committee had their hearings today with whistleblowers.
We're going to introduce you to one of them in
a minute. Stephen prend is his name. He's also a
Senior Fellow for the Center for Renewing America and he
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joined Jim Jordan and House Republicans as a whistleblower testifying
on the issue of retaliation from the FBI and others
for simply telling the truth about what is happening in
the agency and GOP. Members of the Weaponization Committee of
the Judiciary Select Committee heard the testimony from Steven and
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three other whistleblowers. It was eye opening, it was shocking.
It should shock the conscience. This should not happen in
this country, but it did place. Some of the testimony
as Steve Friend as he talks about the FBI's campaign
of intimidation after he became a whistleblower and how the
FBI is working against the American people and how it
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is in need of drastic reform. All we've been telling
you listen.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
At each level of my chain of command leadership caution
that despite my exemplary work performance, whistleblowing placed my otherwise
bright future with the FBI at risk. Special agents take
an oath to protect the US Constitution. The dangers of
federal law enforcement overreach were hammered home to me when
I was required to attend trainings at the Holocaust Memorial
Museum and MLK Memorial. I cited my oath and training
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in my conversations with my FBI supervisors. Nevertheless, the FBI
weaponized the security clearance processes to facilitate my removal from
active duty within one month of my disclosures. In addition
to an indefinite unpaid suspension, the FBI initiated a campaign
of humiliation and intimidation to punish and pressure me to resign,
in violation of hip hop in the US that the
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FBI leaked my private medical information to a reporter at
The New York Times. The FBI denied my request to
seek out side employment in an obvious attempt to deprive
me of the ability to support my family. Finally, the
FBI Inspection Division imposed in a legal gag order in
an attempt to prevent me from communicating with my family
and attorneys. The FBI is incentivized to work against the
American people and in dire need of drastic reform, Particularly
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in these areas.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
The integrated program.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Management system incentivizes the use of inappropriate investigatory processes and
tools to achieve arbitrary statistical accomplishments. Mission creep within the
National Security Branch has refocused counter terrorism from legitimate foreign
actors to political opponents within our borders. The FBI weaponizes
process crimes and reinterprets laws to initiate pretextual prosecutions and
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persecute its political enemies. Euerintelligence analysis capability increasingly dictates operations,
turning the FBI into an intelligence agency with a law
enforcement capability. FBI collusion with big tech to gather intelligence
on Americans, censor political speech, and target citizens for malicious prosecution.
A dysfunctional promotion process fosters a revolving door of inexperienced,
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ambitious FBI supervisors ascending the management ladder within the agency.
FBI informant protocols that are broken and abusive. The FBI
skirts the Whistleblower Protection Act and exploits the security clearance
revocation process to expel employees who make legally protected disclosures.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Now after that, Linda Sanchez, a Democrat, then tries to
smear one of the other whistleblowers, in this case, Marcus Allen,
for using tweets from a quote bot account.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Thank you, mister Allen. Have you ever used Twitter?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yes? Or no?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I have utilized Twitter?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Day?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
And is your account at marcus A nine seven zero
five zero six four five?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
That is absolutely not my account.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Okay, that's not your account.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Well.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
On December fifth, twenty twenty two, on account under the
Marcus Allen retweeted a tweet that.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Said, that is not my account. Ma'am.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
You haven't let me finished the question, sir football player,
you haven't let me finished the question. On decend the
time is mine. On December fifth, two, an account under
the name of Marcus Allen retweeted a tweet that said,
quote Nancy Pelosi stage January sixth, retweet if you agree
end quote?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Do you agree with that statement?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yes? Or no? That is I don't know, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
That's not my account at all. All right joining us now.
Stephen Friend, he testified earlier today, a whistleblower in his
own right, and he joined Jim Jordan. He was before
the Judiciary Committee. He's blockbuster hearings from earlier today and anyway,
we appreciate you being with us, Stephen Friend.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Thank you, oh, thank you very much for having me.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Sell.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Let's talk a little bit about your background. Tell me
about your law enforcement background.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Yeah, I was a police officer in Georgia for of
years and joined the FBI in twenty fourteen. And one
of the things about being a cop and joining the
bureau is they are more inclined to send you to
more locations and deal with some more obscure crimes. So
I spent my first seven years in the FBI working
in northeastern Nebraska on the Indian reservations there and dealing
with violent crimes. And that was really impactful to me
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because I had the opportunity to forrest about one hundred
and fifty violent criminals and over about two hundred cases
in my time there. And then in twenty twenty one,
elected to relocate my family to Daytona, Bechlorida, with the
understanding I was going to be working child pornography investigations.
But after a few months there the new fiscal year
old around, I was told that those were now going
to be deemed a local matter and I was going
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to be focusing on domestic terrorism here on out. And
at that point was when I got my first access
to the January six cases, which I eventually became a
whistle rower about.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
You know, it's amazing and I understand that people thought
that Donald Trump did something wrong on January sixth, that
that should be investigated. But what the sad part is
what they did not investigate. At the top of the
last hour, we had the former Capitol police chief sunned
on this. He's one of only ten Capitol police chiefs
in the history of the country, and he was devastated.
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In the days leading up to January sixth, they had
actionable intelligence and they ignored that intelligence. He saw what
was coming and he begged for National Guard troops. Then also,
the media would have you think that Donald Trump didn't
think this could be problematic. But we have four people
on January third, in a meeting in the Oval Office,
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actually there were five people in the meeting President Trump,
Mark Meadows as Chief of Staff, Chris Miller, the Defense Secretary,
his chief of Staff, Cash Betel, and the Chairman of
the Joint Chiefs, General milly I have on tape and
I played it earlier in the show for the five
of them, saying that Donald Trump asked if they needed
troops on January sixth, then would they be available? And
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General milly in according to who the Inspector General report,
said something similar that it was definitely discussed. So that's
five out of five people in the days leading up
to now. If somebody wanted an insurrection, I'm not sure
they would be looking for guard troops.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Then.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Of course, we learned from Lester Holt in January of
this year they finally caught up to us that federal
law enforcement had in their possession actionable intelligence that they
could have shared with law enforcement, and in fact they
did not, and otherwise all of this would have been prevented.
And that's sad too. I mean, what is your reaction
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when you hear that, and what were you hearing inside
the Bureau at the time when you tried to point
things out.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Well, I think the unfortunate part of what January sixth
has become such a political football that those issues are
being disputed in the verscy of everything is as the
question on the matter who you talked to. But from
my perspective, my concern was not even about the fact
that day. It was how the Bureau is now after
the fact, manipulating statistics concerning January sixth in order to
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boost its domestic terrorism numbers and further a narrative that
domestic terrorism was on the rise around the country. And
I was also very concerned about our use of SWAT
teams and large scale arrest operations to arrest January six subjects.
Regardless of whether or not those charges were righteous or
completely farcical, it didn't matter to me. I thought that
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that those decisions were put in the public safety at risk.
And I said that as somebody who was almost watching
for five years. But these were people who are charged
with misdemeanor crimes in many situations, and even for those
who were charged with felonies, they had agreed to cooperate
with law enforcement. And that's just not in keeping with
the use of the lowest possible force mountain and needed
to put somebody in the custody if there are a
law enforcement So.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
You were a whistleblower, you were you were trying to.
The FBI retaliated against you. They suspended you, and all
you were doing was pointing out that the bureau was
working the numbers on the plastic violent extremism cases. What
exactly did you see and do you maybe have evidence
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to back up everything you saw?
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Well, I can tell you from my experience of having
opened up a couple of hundred cases, that the FBI
is not following the rules that are spelled out for
it in order to manage its cases. So January sixth
righteously should be one case that's run from Washington, DC.
But instead the decision was made to open up a
separate case for every single person, and instead of on
paper running those from Washington, d C. Wherever the person lives,
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that office around the country was the on paper office
of origin. Meanwhile, a task force was stood up in Washington,
d C. That was actually calling the shots and giving directives,
and that was giving me impression to the nation that
genetic rorism is on the rise. In Daytona Beach, Florida,
where I was, or that Sacramento, California, or Milwaukee, Wisconsin,
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wherever the case was opened, and the President and the
Attorney General and the FBI director were able to go
up and say the the stats back us up on
domestic charism being on the rise and secure funding. We've
seen the FBI get a huge surge. And I think
the most disgusting part that I was I related to
the committee and we got into a little today, is
senior executives at the FBI get compensation. They get bonuses
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because they've been able to hit the metrics that they
predetermined for themselves to hit these domestic terrorism numbers.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Oh so if the numbers are right, they get to
they get a nice bonus for themselves. So there's a
financial incentive. Uh, maybe to fix the books. That's that's
not the system you need. A law enforcement in my view,
let me ask you. Tell me about the day that
you were suspended. Tell me about what was said to
you and how this all came into being.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Well, the day that I was actually suspended in September
was pretty uneventful other than just arriving and then being
squared out. With the actual lead up to that where
I made my protected disclosures, where at three separate occasions
I was cautioned against becoming a whistleblower. I was told
that this was going to jeopardize my career. And in
my meeting with two of my assistants special Agents in charge,
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I was told that my duty was to the FBI,
not to the Constitution, and they alleged that I was
insubordinate and refusing me to my job. My contention to
them was look notes to the Constitution, and I believe
that what we're doing could be risk to the public safety,
it could be illegal. And I received training when I
was in the FBI academy about abuse of power. We
went to the Holocaust Memorial Museum, we went to the
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Mlcame Memorial, and we were taught that only the civil
rights atrocities can occur and GENNSI can occur when people
with members of law enforcement don't step up and ring
the alarm bell, so when they could be the bad
guys in fact. And the other response to that was
that I really need to do some soul searching and
decide if I wanted to be a member of the
FBI going forward.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
And then they just took their own liberties to suspend you.
I thought we had whistleblower protection laws in this country.
Did not. Did I misread that we do have them?
Speaker 5 (11:59):
But the FBI has found the hack, and that is
the security clearance. So you can't work as an FBI
agent without a security clearance. So the FBI contrived ways
to suspend security clearance is because that is the years
and years long process in order to investigate, and it
has to be just based on an allegation of wrongdoing.
In my situation, the FBI said that I improperly access
the employee handbook and that was grounds to suspend my
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security clearance and keep me in an unpaid status. Meanwhile,
I'm still an employee and I need the fgi's permission
to work outside and provide for my family, and I'm
limited with outside employment earning seventy five hundred dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Quick break more with Stephen Friend, a now suspended FBI whistleblower,
testifying earlier today before the House Judiciary Committee. All right,
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fake news edits. This is the Sean Hannity Show. So
let me tell you what life was like. You know
my background, my family, and you've heard me say this before.
I know in my life that I stand on the
shoulders of my parents. Both of them grew up very poor.
My dad grew up in bedste in Brooklyn. My mom
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grew up in the South Bronx. They were the children
of immigrants from Ireland. All four of my grandparents, all
four of them came from Ireland, and they had no
money in their pocket when they got here, and they
they had hard lives. Anytime I like to complain and
whine and bitch and moan and grown, you know, I
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think about their lives and I'm like, I have nothing
to complain about here. It's not it's simply just wrong.
But they worked hard in the hopes that future generations
would be able to do have better lives than they had,
and they sacrificed their lives for that way. And by
the way, so many of you have similar stories to tell.
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Mine is not that unique anyway. So my grandfather on
my mother's side came from Ireland and his brother also
came and I will tell you that. So as I
was growing up, I mean when my mom became a
prison guard. You know, law enforcement was huge in my family.
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So many cousins, relatives, you know, outside my immediate family.
You know, we're on the NYPD. My mom was a
prison guard. She worked double shifts pretty much all the
life till she died young. I think from over work
in my opinion, and U I spent you know, twenty
five years of a life in a jail. I think
that would kind of suck. Sixteen hours a day. And
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my dad was a family corp probation guy, waited tables
on the weekend, and they didn't take vacations. They didn't
buy new cars till much later in life because they
couldn't afford them, and they spent all their money on
a Catholic education because they believed that that was the
latter to success. Now, growing up in my family, if
you were in law enforcement, you know what you were
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looked at it as Wow, you're the American dream. You
made it. You're on the NYPD. This is awesome. Now.
My grandfather on my mother's side had a brother who
had two sons that made it to the FBI, and
in my family growing up, they were deity. They were it.
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They were a pinnacle of success that they made it
to the premier law enforcement agency in the entire world.
One of my cousins has since passed away, but another
is alive and he's actually on our Newsmaker line right now.
My mother's maiden name was Flynn, and Billy Flynn is
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on the line. Bill. Great to have you, my friend,
God bless you. I'm sorry we missed your brother. And
by the way, your other brother became Jack became what
a Christian brother, if I'm not mistaken. And how many
years did you serve in the FBI?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Twenty eight years, Sean. You know it's funny you say that. Well,
I didn't call in with this in mind, but what
you just described I call the Irish American privilege. You know,
we had the loving parents, work ethic gave us a
marral Coude and turned us loose. No checks, no nothing.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
That's true. I was on my own, you know, since
I had my first payper out. I paid for every
meal I ever had. I just you know, we didn't
have meals at six o'clock like a regular family.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
You know what, You know, short, I'm in a sweet sput.
I'm too years older than Trump and two years younger
than Biden. Let me tell you something. Trump is a
freaking wonder kid. He's unbelievable. I couldn't begin to compete
with his stamina. And the other guy he is on
his way to dementia city. This is from my observations
from this age I am. I'm from what we call
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my friend's cause we call ourselves twentieth century feds. Our
careers were in the last quarter of the twentieth century.
But the thing I'm describing there, that silver spooner thing.
I didn't call him with this in mind. But you
know what, maybe that's the problem with this Ray guy,
because that's what he is, a silver spooner. As I
recall his background, I think he was born in Manhattan
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to a well to do lawyer father. He went to
prep school in Manhattan and then Yale law. He gets out,
he gets himself a job in a preferred law firm.
No problem there. He gets out of that, he does
a couple of years in justice, has no FBI experience,
and the next thing you know, he's the director of
the FBI. I mean to me, I just think this
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guy was mosfully inadequate for the position he was put in.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
He had an opportunity to clean house after all the
Shenanigans of James Comy. You know, we know James Comy
went three separate times with PISA applications, and Andrew McCabe
said without Hillary's dirty dossier, those applications never would have
been improved. And he lied to a court and said
that it was verified. It says at the top of
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a visa court application verified. And he submitted to them
every time. And then we learned this week from the
Durham report that they had no predicate at all to
even open this investigation and that they will Warner repeatedly.
Early October, before he signed that first application, we know
that the FBI had agents fly over the Pond to
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London and meet with Christopher Steele. They offered him a
million dollars if he could corroborate his dossier. He could not,
but yet they included it as the bulk of him
for me to get that pizor application to destroy Carter
Page's life and backdoor into all things Trump world. How
did he never get held accountable for that?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I don't know. It's extraordinary, isn't it. This guy put
his thumb, put his put his cinder blocks on the
scale of the last election. If anything, Hopefully the Republicans
will have somebody in there in twenty four to turn
it over. You will never get them to go back
after Cally and the rest of those dirt bags. But
this guy should be made an example of. He absolutely
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affected the election in twenty twenty by putting by you know,
hooking up with the social networks, telling him his Russian
pranks coming, and then he then, of course the laptop
shows up and then they sit on it. Two weeks
before the election. Some independent surveys said that could have
affected the outcome of the election had they known that,
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had the post not been squashed. You know, So I
would like to see him cross That's my goal. Sorry,
this is what I really called in for. So I'm
just off the top of my head here but the
idea I called in for was to do with the
border showing. I know that the governors of Texas and
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Florida have been shipping the buses up. It's well known
what happened in New York. We got Mayor Adams in
their Springing University. We're not a sanctuary city anymore, et cetera. Well,
you know, there's a lot of universities in this country,
a lot of wolf politically correct universities that have empty
dorms during the summer, you know, and a lot of
them rent them out. I would love to see, maybe,
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in particular, let's go after these Catholic and name only universities.
Let's drop off a couple of loads of these illegal
immigrants in their dorms for the summer. Maybe they could
take some of that they're well endowed monies that they have,
they must be hugely profitable with their exorbitant tuitions, and
let them take care of these people for us, and
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maybe during that summer they could figure out a more
permanent lodging for them in the communities in which they live.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Well, I mean, why don't we enforce the law if
you enter this country illegally, you don't respect our laws,
borders of sovereignty. You should be sent home, by the way.
You know, it's funny. I want to go back to
our own family, if you don't mind. I bet you
and your brothers had no idea that everybody else in
the family looked up to you the way we did.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Did you no idea at all? Seuck, I got it.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I was in college. I was in Manhattan College. It
was in night school, paying my own way, I would say,
at the same time as Rudy Giuliani and Jane Statterson.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Wow, you know, it's pretty amazing. You know. The sad
part is, and you and I had private conversations when
we were dealing with this whole you know, Mueller witch
hunt and everything else that went on for three long years,
Russia hoax, and I remember telling you it was painful
for me. It kind of it went against my own
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ingrained DNA, because I was brought up to revere people
like yourself and people in law enforcement and look up
to them and believe in them and trust them, and
the idea that they were abusing power to this level.
Now again, I make an exception for the good people
in the FBI that risk their lives the good people
in law enforcement. And I always make that caveat because
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it's not fair to sweep a broad general brush and
people like yourself and people like your brother. And yet
look what has happened here. I mean, I don't know
if you've had a chance to look at this Durham report,
but it is devastating. If anyone has eyes to read
and ears to hear and a heart that's open, you
see that this was all a hoax from the beginning,
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with no evidence to even begin an investigation. And I'm like,
how is this happening in this country? That to me
is abuse of power, That is corruption. But if our
institutions are corupt I'll give you another example. Twenty twenty,
here's the FBI again. They had Hunter Biden's laptop in
December and twenty nineteen, they verified that John Solomon says
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in spring of twenty twenty, and yet they had FBI
agents meeting with big tech companies on a weekly basis,
even giving three and a half million dollars to Twitter
and pre bunking. Well, you might be a victim of
disinformation from a foreign entity, and it may be about
Joe or Hunter Biden. So that story that they knew
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was coming out because Rudy Giuliani had a copy of
that laptop. They debunk it, and then it gets censored
and the American people are denied a very important truth
about a candidate and his family prior to an election. Now,
that to me is wow. I can't imagine what would
happen to me if I ever tried to medal in
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an election like that.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
You know, I was told by someone who was in
a position to know the sad laptop shat that whole
time in a unit down at Quantico, you know, And
I call it the Dorg and Pony show Land. They're
really good at putting on lots of shows down there.
The congressman that was on ahead of me, I agree
with them one hundred percent. Do not fund any new
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facility for the FBI, because that'll be the next little
bubble that they dangle out in front of you. They
should be confirmed to the concrete tomb that they are
in right now, because they hate being there, and I
really feel they shouldn't be rewarded for the way that
they've conducted themselves throughout this whole thing. Well, I'm disgusted
and I don't know anybody, for the most part, the
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retirees that I know that have anything but lack of
respect for these people.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Every single person that I know, either currently serving or
recently retired, tells me the same thing. It is not
the agency they signed up for everything that they're looking
into now, and the Judiciary Committee about weaponization and in
how it's been politicized the FBI, it is all true.
And that to me tells us that we don't have
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equal justice or application of our laws. They're not following
standard procedures or following through on constitutional rights. Pretty scary times,
by the way. And here it is, you guys had
had created this great reputation for our family and were
you know, looked up to his deity and then it
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along comes me and I ruined the whole family reputation.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
What patters can be? I bragged anybody who listened to
me that you're my cousin, and I said, don't hold
it against him.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
And by the way, by the way, the funny thing
is probably half of them want to kill you after that.
You know, well, listen, it's great to hear from you.
And then you know, twenty eight years you served our
great country. Your brother was a hero as well. Well.
Both your brothers were here have your whole family's heroes.
I'll never forget your dad. I remember your dad. I
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think I called him Uncle Dave at the time, I'm
not sure, but he would smoke a cigarette and he
he'd pop with every drag. He used to do that pop,
remember that. And I remember your your mom, Bridy loving
a Gin and tonic. And I remember I was a
bartender at the time and I'd make.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Him for yeap real quick. My father would. He'd be
sitting there with a pipe, doing that pop thing with
the pipe, and he said, sure, Billy, I'm so happy
to tell you I gave up smoking.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
As he popped away on a pipe instead of a cigarette.
I remember him smoking cigarettes. I don't remember the pipe
well anyway, Bill, Thank you, my friend. God bless you
and our entire family. And I know you agree with
me that they had much tougher lives than we did,
and they sacrificed a lot for us, and I never
forget that we stand on their shoulders.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Thanks Sean, you are the work worse and the conservative body.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Well. But trying, my friend, I'm just trying to follow
in your footsteps. Yep, all right, eight nine one sean
our number if you want to be part of the program.
I used to call him and say, it's killing me,
it's killing me. I don't want to cover the story.
I don't want to be a point on exposing you
know what I had come grown up to Revere, you know,
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law enforcement, the FBI, and I was I was brought
up to. You know, I looked at him and his
brother and we were like, you know, we didn't see
them often, and then sometimes you'd see them and they
like had long hippie hair. You know, they were a
dressed you know, they were obviously clearly infiltrating something. Obviously
at my age, I had no clue what they were doing.
And you know, it just was, you know, we looked
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at them as the pinnacle of success as an immigrant family,
and they made it when they made it to the FBI.
And that was that was the dream of their parents
risking everything, coming to this country with no money. And
that's all for my grandparents. I only knew one of
my grandparents. I did not know the other three, and
I didn't know his dad, which was my grandfather's brother. Anyway,
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Great people. I'll say, all right, that's going to wrap
things up at today. All right, the hearings of the
whistle blowers. Today we got full and complete coverage, including
one of the whistleblowers, Jeanine Piro. Kelly Ann joins us tonight.
Lindsey Graham's of New York tonight, he'll check in with
us in studio, Tommy Laren in studio. Dagan is in studios.
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So we have a lot of fun. Ronnie Jackson and
so much more. Nine Eastern Hannity, Fox News, see you tonight.
Back here tomorrow. Thank you for making this show possible.
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Coming up next our final News Roundup and Information Overload Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
All Right, News Roundup, Information Overload Hour, Toll free. Our
number is eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn if
you want to be a part of the program. So,
Jim Jordan House Judiciary Committee had their hearings today with whistleblowers.
We're going to introduce you to one of them in
a minute. Stephen prend is his name. He's also a
Senior Fellow for the Center for Renewing America and he
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joined Jim Jordan and House Republicans as a whistleblower testifying
on the issue of retaliation from the FBI and others
for simply telling the truth about what is happening in
the agency and GOP. Members of the Weaponization Committee of
the Judiciary Select Committee heard the testimony from Steven and
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three other whistleblowers. It was eye opening, it was shocking.
It should shock the conscience. This should not happen in
this country, but it did place. Some of the testimony
as Steve Friend as he talks about the FBI's campaign
of intimidation after he became a whistleblower and how the
FBI is working against the American people and how it
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is in need of drastic reform. All we've been telling
you listen.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
At each level of my chain of command leadership caution
that despite my exemplary work performance, whistleblowing placed my otherwise
bright future with the FBI at risk. Special agents take
an oath to protect the US Constitution. The dangers of
federal law enforcement overreach were hammered home to me when
I was required to attend trainings at the Holocaust Memorial
Museum and MLK Memorial. I cited my oath and training
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in my conversations with my FBI supervisors. Nevertheless, the FBI
weaponized the security clearance processes to facilitate my removal from
active duty within one month of my disclosures. In addition
to an indefinite unpaid suspension, the FBI initiated a campaign
of humiliation and intimidation to punish and pressure me to resign,
in violation of hip hop in the US that the
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FBI leaked my private medical information to a reporter at
The New York Times. The FBI denied my request to
seek out side employment in an obvious attempt to deprive
me of the ability to support my family. Finally, the
FBI Inspection Division imposed in a legal gag order in
an attempt to prevent me from communicating with my family
and attorneys. The FBI is incentivized to work against the
American people and in dire need of drastic reform, Particularly
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in these areas.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
The integrated program.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Management system incentivizes the use of inappropriate investigatory processes and
tools to achieve arbitrary statistical accomplishments. Mission creep within the
National Security Branch has refocused counter terrorism from legitimate foreign
actors to political opponents within our borders. The FBI weaponizes
process crimes and reinterprets laws to initiate pretextual prosecutions and
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persecute its political enemies. Euerintelligence analysis capability increasingly dictates operations,
turning the FBI into an intelligence agency with a law
enforcement capability. FBI collusion with big tech to gather intelligence
on Americans, censor political speech, and target citizens for malicious prosecution.
A dysfunctional promotion process fosters a revolving door of inexperienced,
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ambitious FBI supervisors ascending the management ladder within the agency.
FBI informant protocols that are broken and abusive. The FBI
skirts the Whistleblower Protection Act and exploits the security clearance
revocation process to expel employees who make legally protected disclosures.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Now after that, Linda Sanchez, a Democrat, then tries to
smear one of the other whistleblowers, in this case, Marcus Allen,
for using tweets from a quote bot account.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Thank you, mister Allen. Have you ever used Twitter?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yes? Or no?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I have utilized Twitter?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Day?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
And is your account at marcus A nine seven zero
five zero six four five?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
That is absolutely not my account.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Okay, that's not your account.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Well.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
On December fifth, twenty twenty two, on account under the
Marcus Allen retweeted a tweet that.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Said, that is not my account. Ma'am.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
You haven't let me finished the question, sir football player,
you haven't let me finished the question. On decend the
time is mine. On December fifth, two, an account under
the name of Marcus Allen retweeted a tweet that said,
quote Nancy Pelosi stage January sixth, retweet if you agree
end quote?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Do you agree with that statement?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yes? Or no? That is I don't know, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
That's not my account at all. All right joining us now.
Stephen Friend, he testified earlier today, a whistleblower in his
own right, and he joined Jim Jordan. He was before
the Judiciary Committee. He's blockbuster hearings from earlier today and anyway,
we appreciate you being with us, Stephen Friend.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Thank you, oh, thank you very much for having me.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Sell.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Let's talk a little bit about your background. Tell me
about your law enforcement background.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Yeah, I was a police officer in Georgia for of
years and joined the FBI in twenty fourteen. And one
of the things about being a cop and joining the
bureau is they are more inclined to send you to
more locations and deal with some more obscure crimes. So
I spent my first seven years in the FBI working
in northeastern Nebraska on the Indian reservations there and dealing
with violent crimes. And that was really impactful to me
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because I had the opportunity to forrest about one hundred
and fifty violent criminals and over about two hundred cases
in my time there. And then in twenty twenty one,
elected to relocate my family to Daytona, Bechlorida, with the
understanding I was going to be working child pornography investigations.
But after a few months there the new fiscal year
old around, I was told that those were now going
to be deemed a local matter and I was going
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to be focusing on domestic terrorism here on out. And
at that point was when I got my first access
to the January six cases, which I eventually became a
whistle rower about.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
You know, it's amazing and I understand that people thought
that Donald Trump did something wrong on January sixth, that
that should be investigated. But what the sad part is
what they did not investigate. At the top of the
last hour, we had the former Capitol police chief sunned
on this. He's one of only ten Capitol police chiefs
in the history of the country, and he was devastated.
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In the days leading up to January sixth, they had
actionable intelligence and they ignored that intelligence. He saw what
was coming and he begged for National Guard troops. Then also,
the media would have you think that Donald Trump didn't
think this could be problematic. But we have four people
on January third, in a meeting in the Oval Office,
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actually there were five people in the meeting President Trump,
Mark Meadows as Chief of Staff, Chris Miller, the Defense Secretary,
his chief of Staff, Cash Betel, and the Chairman of
the Joint Chiefs, General milly I have on tape and
I played it earlier in the show for the five
of them, saying that Donald Trump asked if they needed
troops on January sixth, then would they be available? And
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General milly in according to who the Inspector General report,
said something similar that it was definitely discussed. So that's
five out of five people in the days leading up
to now. If somebody wanted an insurrection, I'm not sure
they would be looking for guard troops.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Then.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Of course, we learned from Lester Holt in January of
this year they finally caught up to us that federal
law enforcement had in their possession actionable intelligence that they
could have shared with law enforcement, and in fact they
did not, and otherwise all of this would have been prevented.
And that's sad too. I mean, what is your reaction
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when you hear that, and what were you hearing inside
the Bureau at the time when you tried to point
things out.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Well, I think the unfortunate part of what January sixth
has become such a political football that those issues are
being disputed in the verscy of everything is as the
question on the matter who you talked to. But from
my perspective, my concern was not even about the fact
that day. It was how the Bureau is now after
the fact, manipulating statistics concerning January sixth in order to
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boost its domestic terrorism numbers and further a narrative that
domestic terrorism was on the rise around the country. And
I was also very concerned about our use of SWAT
teams and large scale arrest operations to arrest January six subjects.
Regardless of whether or not those charges were righteous or
completely farcical, it didn't matter to me. I thought that
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that those decisions were put in the public safety at risk.
And I said that as somebody who was almost watching
for five years. But these were people who are charged
with misdemeanor crimes in many situations, and even for those
who were charged with felonies, they had agreed to cooperate
with law enforcement. And that's just not in keeping with
the use of the lowest possible force mountain and needed
to put somebody in the custody if there are a
law enforcement So.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
You were a whistleblower, you were you were trying to.
The FBI retaliated against you. They suspended you, and all
you were doing was pointing out that the bureau was
working the numbers on the plastic violent extremism cases. What
exactly did you see and do you maybe have evidence
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to back up everything you saw?
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Well, I can tell you from my experience of having
opened up a couple of hundred cases, that the FBI
is not following the rules that are spelled out for
it in order to manage its cases. So January sixth
righteously should be one case that's run from Washington, DC.
But instead the decision was made to open up a
separate case for every single person, and instead of on
paper running those from Washington, d C. Wherever the person lives,
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that office around the country was the on paper office
of origin. Meanwhile, a task force was stood up in Washington,
d C. That was actually calling the shots and giving directives,
and that was giving me impression to the nation that
genetic rorism is on the rise. In Daytona Beach, Florida,
where I was, or that Sacramento, California, or Milwaukee, Wisconsin,
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wherever the case was opened, and the President and the
Attorney General and the FBI director were able to go
up and say the the stats back us up on
domestic charism being on the rise and secure funding. We've
seen the FBI get a huge surge. And I think
the most disgusting part that I was I related to
the committee and we got into a little today, is
senior executives at the FBI get compensation. They get bonuses
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because they've been able to hit the metrics that they
predetermined for themselves to hit these domestic terrorism numbers.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Oh so if the numbers are right, they get to
they get a nice bonus for themselves. So there's a
financial incentive. Uh, maybe to fix the books. That's that's
not the system you need. A law enforcement in my view,
let me ask you. Tell me about the day that
you were suspended. Tell me about what was said to
you and how this all came into being.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Well, the day that I was actually suspended in September
was pretty uneventful other than just arriving and then being
squared out. With the actual lead up to that where
I made my protected disclosures, where at three separate occasions
I was cautioned against becoming a whistleblower. I was told
that this was going to jeopardize my career. And in
my meeting with two of my assistants special Agents in charge,
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I was told that my duty was to the FBI,
not to the Constitution, and they alleged that I was
insubordinate and refusing me to my job. My contention to
them was look notes to the Constitution, and I believe
that what we're doing could be risk to the public safety,
it could be illegal. And I received training when I
was in the FBI academy about abuse of power. We
went to the Holocaust Memorial Museum, we went to the
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Mlcame Memorial, and we were taught that only the civil
rights atrocities can occur and GENNSI can occur when people
with members of law enforcement don't step up and ring
the alarm bell, so when they could be the bad
guys in fact. And the other response to that was
that I really need to do some soul searching and
decide if I wanted to be a member of the
FBI going forward.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
And then they just took their own liberties to suspend you.
I thought we had whistleblower protection laws in this country.
Did not. Did I misread that we do have them?
Speaker 5 (11:59):
But the FBI has found the hack, and that is
the security clearance. So you can't work as an FBI
agent without a security clearance. So the FBI contrived ways
to suspend security clearance is because that is the years
and years long process in order to investigate, and it
has to be just based on an allegation of wrongdoing.
In my situation, the FBI said that I improperly access
the employee handbook and that was grounds to suspend my
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security clearance and keep me in an unpaid status. Meanwhile,
I'm still an employee and I need the fgi's permission
to work outside and provide for my family, and I'm
limited with outside employment earning seventy five hundred dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Quick break more with Stephen Friend, a now suspended FBI whistleblower,
testifying earlier today before the House Judiciary Committee. All right,
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fake news edits. This is the Sean Hannity Show. So
let me tell you what life was like. You know
my background, my family, and you've heard me say this before.
I know in my life that I stand on the
shoulders of my parents. Both of them grew up very poor.
My dad grew up in bedste in Brooklyn. My mom
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grew up in the South Bronx. They were the children
of immigrants from Ireland. All four of my grandparents, all
four of them came from Ireland, and they had no
money in their pocket when they got here, and they
they had hard lives. Anytime I like to complain and
whine and bitch and moan and grown, you know, I
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think about their lives and I'm like, I have nothing
to complain about here. It's not it's simply just wrong.
But they worked hard in the hopes that future generations
would be able to do have better lives than they had,
and they sacrificed their lives for that way. And by
the way, so many of you have similar stories to tell.
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Mine is not that unique anyway. So my grandfather on
my mother's side came from Ireland and his brother also
came and I will tell you that. So as I
was growing up, I mean when my mom became a
prison guard. You know, law enforcement was huge in my family.
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So many cousins, relatives, you know, outside my immediate family.
You know, we're on the NYPD. My mom was a
prison guard. She worked double shifts pretty much all the
life till she died young. I think from over work
in my opinion, and U I spent you know, twenty
five years of a life in a jail. I think
that would kind of suck. Sixteen hours a day. And
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my dad was a family corp probation guy, waited tables
on the weekend, and they didn't take vacations. They didn't
buy new cars till much later in life because they
couldn't afford them, and they spent all their money on
a Catholic education because they believed that that was the
latter to success. Now, growing up in my family, if
you were in law enforcement, you know what you were
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looked at it as Wow, you're the American dream. You
made it. You're on the NYPD. This is awesome. Now.
My grandfather on my mother's side had a brother who
had two sons that made it to the FBI, and
in my family growing up, they were deity. They were it.
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They were a pinnacle of success that they made it
to the premier law enforcement agency in the entire world.
One of my cousins has since passed away, but another
is alive and he's actually on our Newsmaker line right now.
My mother's maiden name was Flynn, and Billy Flynn is
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on the line. Bill. Great to have you, my friend,
God bless you. I'm sorry we missed your brother. And
by the way, your other brother became Jack became what
a Christian brother, if I'm not mistaken. And how many
years did you serve in the FBI?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Twenty eight years, Sean. You know it's funny you say that. Well,
I didn't call in with this in mind, but what
you just described I call the Irish American privilege. You know,
we had the loving parents, work ethic gave us a
marral Coude and turned us loose. No checks, no nothing.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
That's true. I was on my own, you know, since
I had my first payper out. I paid for every
meal I ever had. I just you know, we didn't
have meals at six o'clock like a regular family.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
You know what, You know, short, I'm in a sweet sput.
I'm too years older than Trump and two years younger
than Biden. Let me tell you something. Trump is a
freaking wonder kid. He's unbelievable. I couldn't begin to compete
with his stamina. And the other guy he is on
his way to dementia city. This is from my observations
from this age I am. I'm from what we call
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my friend's cause we call ourselves twentieth century feds. Our
careers were in the last quarter of the twentieth century.
But the thing I'm describing there, that silver spooner thing.
I didn't call him with this in mind. But you
know what, maybe that's the problem with this Ray guy,
because that's what he is, a silver spooner. As I
recall his background, I think he was born in Manhattan
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to a well to do lawyer father. He went to
prep school in Manhattan and then Yale law. He gets out,
he gets himself a job in a preferred law firm.
No problem there. He gets out of that, he does
a couple of years in justice, has no FBI experience,
and the next thing you know, he's the director of
the FBI. I mean to me, I just think this
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guy was mosfully inadequate for the position he was put in.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
He had an opportunity to clean house after all the
Shenanigans of James Comy. You know, we know James Comy
went three separate times with PISA applications, and Andrew McCabe
said without Hillary's dirty dossier, those applications never would have
been improved. And he lied to a court and said
that it was verified. It says at the top of
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a visa court application verified. And he submitted to them
every time. And then we learned this week from the
Durham report that they had no predicate at all to
even open this investigation and that they will Warner repeatedly.
Early October, before he signed that first application, we know
that the FBI had agents fly over the Pond to
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London and meet with Christopher Steele. They offered him a
million dollars if he could corroborate his dossier. He could not,
but yet they included it as the bulk of him
for me to get that pizor application to destroy Carter
Page's life and backdoor into all things Trump world. How
did he never get held accountable for that?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I don't know. It's extraordinary, isn't it. This guy put
his thumb, put his put his cinder blocks on the
scale of the last election. If anything, Hopefully the Republicans
will have somebody in there in twenty four to turn
it over. You will never get them to go back
after Cally and the rest of those dirt bags. But
this guy should be made an example of. He absolutely
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affected the election in twenty twenty by putting by you know,
hooking up with the social networks, telling him his Russian
pranks coming, and then he then, of course the laptop
shows up and then they sit on it. Two weeks
before the election. Some independent surveys said that could have
affected the outcome of the election had they known that,
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had the post not been squashed. You know, So I
would like to see him cross That's my goal. Sorry,
this is what I really called in for. So I'm
just off the top of my head here but the
idea I called in for was to do with the
border showing. I know that the governors of Texas and
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Florida have been shipping the buses up. It's well known
what happened in New York. We got Mayor Adams in
their Springing University. We're not a sanctuary city anymore, et cetera. Well,
you know, there's a lot of universities in this country,
a lot of wolf politically correct universities that have empty
dorms during the summer, you know, and a lot of
them rent them out. I would love to see, maybe,
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in particular, let's go after these Catholic and name only universities.
Let's drop off a couple of loads of these illegal
immigrants in their dorms for the summer. Maybe they could
take some of that they're well endowed monies that they have,
they must be hugely profitable with their exorbitant tuitions, and
let them take care of these people for us, and
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maybe during that summer they could figure out a more
permanent lodging for them in the communities in which they live.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Well, I mean, why don't we enforce the law if
you enter this country illegally, you don't respect our laws,
borders of sovereignty. You should be sent home, by the way.
You know, it's funny. I want to go back to
our own family, if you don't mind. I bet you
and your brothers had no idea that everybody else in
the family looked up to you the way we did.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Did you no idea at all? Seuck, I got it.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I was in college. I was in Manhattan College. It
was in night school, paying my own way, I would say,
at the same time as Rudy Giuliani and Jane Statterson.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Wow, you know, it's pretty amazing. You know. The sad
part is, and you and I had private conversations when
we were dealing with this whole you know, Mueller witch
hunt and everything else that went on for three long years,
Russia hoax, and I remember telling you it was painful
for me. It kind of it went against my own
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ingrained DNA, because I was brought up to revere people
like yourself and people in law enforcement and look up
to them and believe in them and trust them, and
the idea that they were abusing power to this level.
Now again, I make an exception for the good people
in the FBI that risk their lives the good people
in law enforcement. And I always make that caveat because
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it's not fair to sweep a broad general brush and
people like yourself and people like your brother. And yet
look what has happened here. I mean, I don't know
if you've had a chance to look at this Durham report,
but it is devastating. If anyone has eyes to read
and ears to hear and a heart that's open, you
see that this was all a hoax from the beginning,
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with no evidence to even begin an investigation. And I'm like,
how is this happening in this country? That to me
is abuse of power, That is corruption. But if our
institutions are corupt I'll give you another example. Twenty twenty,
here's the FBI again. They had Hunter Biden's laptop in
December and twenty nineteen, they verified that John Solomon says
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in spring of twenty twenty, and yet they had FBI
agents meeting with big tech companies on a weekly basis,
even giving three and a half million dollars to Twitter
and pre bunking. Well, you might be a victim of
disinformation from a foreign entity, and it may be about
Joe or Hunter Biden. So that story that they knew
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was coming out because Rudy Giuliani had a copy of
that laptop. They debunk it, and then it gets censored
and the American people are denied a very important truth
about a candidate and his family prior to an election. Now,
that to me is wow. I can't imagine what would
happen to me if I ever tried to medal in
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an election like that.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
You know, I was told by someone who was in
a position to know the sad laptop shat that whole
time in a unit down at Quantico, you know, And
I call it the Dorg and Pony show Land. They're
really good at putting on lots of shows down there.
The congressman that was on ahead of me, I agree
with them one hundred percent. Do not fund any new
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facility for the FBI, because that'll be the next little
bubble that they dangle out in front of you. They
should be confirmed to the concrete tomb that they are
in right now, because they hate being there, and I
really feel they shouldn't be rewarded for the way that
they've conducted themselves throughout this whole thing. Well, I'm disgusted
and I don't know anybody, for the most part, the
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retirees that I know that have anything but lack of
respect for these people.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Every single person that I know, either currently serving or
recently retired, tells me the same thing. It is not
the agency they signed up for everything that they're looking
into now, and the Judiciary Committee about weaponization and in
how it's been politicized the FBI, it is all true.
And that to me tells us that we don't have
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equal justice or application of our laws. They're not following
standard procedures or following through on constitutional rights. Pretty scary times,
by the way. And here it is, you guys had
had created this great reputation for our family and were
you know, looked up to his deity and then it
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along comes me and I ruined the whole family reputation.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
What patters can be? I bragged anybody who listened to
me that you're my cousin, and I said, don't hold
it against him.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
And by the way, by the way, the funny thing
is probably half of them want to kill you after that.
You know, well, listen, it's great to hear from you.
And then you know, twenty eight years you served our
great country. Your brother was a hero as well. Well.
Both your brothers were here have your whole family's heroes.
I'll never forget your dad. I remember your dad. I
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think I called him Uncle Dave at the time, I'm
not sure, but he would smoke a cigarette and he
he'd pop with every drag. He used to do that pop,
remember that. And I remember your your mom, Bridy loving
a Gin and tonic. And I remember I was a
bartender at the time and I'd make.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Him for yeap real quick. My father would. He'd be
sitting there with a pipe, doing that pop thing with
the pipe, and he said, sure, Billy, I'm so happy
to tell you I gave up smoking.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
As he popped away on a pipe instead of a cigarette.
I remember him smoking cigarettes. I don't remember the pipe
well anyway, Bill, Thank you, my friend. God bless you
and our entire family. And I know you agree with
me that they had much tougher lives than we did,
and they sacrificed a lot for us, and I never
forget that we stand on their shoulders.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Thanks Sean, you are the work worse and the conservative body.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Well. But trying, my friend, I'm just trying to follow
in your footsteps. Yep, all right, eight nine one sean
our number if you want to be part of the program.
I used to call him and say, it's killing me,
it's killing me. I don't want to cover the story.
I don't want to be a point on exposing you
know what I had come grown up to Revere, you know,
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law enforcement, the FBI, and I was I was brought
up to. You know, I looked at him and his
brother and we were like, you know, we didn't see
them often, and then sometimes you'd see them and they
like had long hippie hair. You know, they were a
dressed you know, they were obviously clearly infiltrating something. Obviously
at my age, I had no clue what they were doing.
And you know, it just was, you know, we looked
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at them as the pinnacle of success as an immigrant family,
and they made it when they made it to the FBI.
And that was that was the dream of their parents
risking everything, coming to this country with no money. And
that's all for my grandparents. I only knew one of
my grandparents. I did not know the other three, and
I didn't know his dad, which was my grandfather's brother. Anyway,
(27:58):
Great people. I'll say, all right, that's going to wrap
things up at today. All right, the hearings of the
whistle blowers. Today we got full and complete coverage, including
one of the whistleblowers, Jeanine Piro. Kelly Ann joins us tonight.
Lindsey Graham's of New York tonight, he'll check in with
us in studio, Tommy Laren in studio. Dagan is in studios.
(28:19):
So we have a lot of fun. Ronnie Jackson and
so much more. Nine Eastern Hannity, Fox News, see you tonight.
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