November 28, 2023 • 33 mins
Economists Steve Moore and EJ Antoni have some empirical numbers that show the Biden economy is objectively worse than the Trump economy.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Well, we have come in.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
To your sentence, Donna Way, I again Thalas and saying
you a conco sound.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Will be.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
Till and if you want a little banging and yengy,
I come along.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
President Biden, what is his job approval rating?
Speaker 5 (00:22):
We measure it now at forty percent with fifty seven
percent disapproving. The significance That is the lowest President Biden
has ever measured in our poll.
Speaker 6 (00:31):
I want to talk about Governor Newsen. I want to
thank you. He's been one hell of a governor man.
Matter of fact, he could dated he get having a
job I'm looking for.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
And over the past two years along we've seized enough
fentanyl to kill two hundred and seventy million Americans. Frado
is back in style.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Welcome to the revolution.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
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against Thalas and saying can you a conscious saw New
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Speaker 7 (01:09):
And more bold inspired solutions for America.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Right, Thanks Scott you Han An hour two Sean Hannity's
show Told Free It's eight hundred and ninety four one Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program,
so we're just flat out being lined to on a
lot of issues. For example, you have Kamala Harris, Joe Biden,
you have Majorcis, Alejandro Mayorcis, the Department of Homeland Security Secretary,
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and you have the entire administration Colleen Jean Pierre. Prior
to her circle back Jens Taki, I'll circle back with
you on that. And what do we have them saying
about the border? The border has closed, the border is secure.
Not true, None of it's true. Biden literally made the
statement that the cost of food and groceries are down.
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We gave you all of these numbers yesterday, we'll give
to you again today, but just listen to them, just
flat out live.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
There was a conversation to kitchen table, I mean literally
not figuring. Those conversations have been going on kitchen tables
all across America for a while now. A conversation, a
conversation about whether we'd have enough left over at the
end of the month for my dad to be able
to used to say, have a little bit of breathing room. Well,
(02:25):
this past week, as Americans gathered around their own kitchen
tables for Thanksgiving dinner, that was our goal to get
them a little more breathing room, and together we made progress.
You know, from Turkey to air travel to tank of
gas costs went down, they went down.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And when all else fails.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
By the way, if you're a Democrat, well the next
thing is, let's blame Donald Trump. Donald Trump's been out
of office for three years. This has been your economy.
You gave us two trillion dollars in debt, you gave
us high inflation, you gave us record gas prices that
all happened on their watch. But yet they don't seem
at all to even want to face what is truth
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and what is reality?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Why do you think it is that when you say
the economy is improving and President Biden says the economy
is improving, that a majority of Americans outside of his
building are not buying.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 8 (03:23):
When we walked into this administration, the economy was on
ail sip a tailspin. That is the fact, because of
the last administration, because of the Trump administration, because of
how they dealt with dealt with COVID and the pandemic,
because they didn't have a comprehensive plan.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
All right, joining us now, Steve Moore, economists author of
the best seller of trump Bonomics, Inside the America First
Plan to Revive Our Economy.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Ej.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Antoni is back with US research fellow Regional Economics Center
for Data Analysis. Guys, welcome back, both of you. Great
to hear from you. So okay, all the reality shows
the opposite. So why are they just out blot out
lying to the American people? And when the Washington Post
even says that they're lying and that they better get
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rid of and just eliminate the term Bidenomics, I think
that says a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Steve Moore, Well.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Sean, it's very simple. When you have roughly seventy five
to eighty percent of Americans who say the economy is
headed in the wrong direction, you better start getting very
worried about things. I mean, those are worse numbers on
than you know, when Richard Nixon was president during Watergate
and Jimmy Carter in the height of the eleven and
twelve percent inflation we had in nineteen seventy nine and
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nineteen eighty. So this should be worrisome, and instead the
Biden administration simply pretends like it isn't happening. Now, it
is true to give Biden some credit the inflation rate
is down from nine point two percent to about four
percent now, although a lot of people think it's the
I more than four percent. But even still, the prices
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keep rising faster than people's incomes. And that's why I
think Trump is in a very positive position right now.
Why so many you know, voters are saying, I'm going
to give Trump a second look now because they see
and feel the fact that they are poor today than
they were three or four years ago. And that is
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not a position the Democrats want to be in. And
to just pretend to live in fantasy land and say
things are just fine. Boy, that's a dangerous, dangerous line.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Well, it really is in every way imaginable here, I
got to tell you. I mean, I think these are
scary times for most Americans, at least that's my takeaway
from this. But you know, Biden was slammed for bragging
that he's bringing prices down, even though that they are
up since he entered office.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
You know, if you if you.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Look at the facts, airfare is up twenty one percent,
Thanksgiving dinner was up twenty five percent. Guests gas is
almost a dollar more gallon, which is insane. Gas under
Donald Trump never got to a national average of three
dollars a gallon your take, EJ.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Seana, I think you're absolutely right here. Things are much
worse today than when Biden took office. But if you
go into the White House Press briefing room, there's a
very subtle sleight of hand there where the Press Secretary
starts talking about not comparing today to when Biden took office,
but comparing today to pre pandemics. And they'll talk about
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real wagers, or they'll talk about credit card debt, whatever
the case may be. And so they always have to
include part of President Trump's term in order to try
to make Biden look better. But I mean, at the
end of the day, there's just no way to make
this situation look better. We have over one point one
trillion dollars in credit card debt right now, and consumers,
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because they've maxed out so many of their credit cards
on Black Friday, they overwhelmingly had to use this buy now,
pay later option at retailers that went up by billions
compared to the previous year. Meanwhile, we're seeing all kinds
of delinquency rates, whether it's on these credit cards or
auto loans rising, and in fact delinquencies right now. Although
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the level is low because we're basically coming off the
baseline of zero, the delinquency rate is rising at the
fastest pace since the Great Recession. So, by no means
is the consumer in good shape in Biden's economy.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Now, when I look at the number Steve More, that
bothers me the most. I look at the number of
you know, the number of Americans now that you know
can't make ends meet or that a living paycheck to paycheck.
That's that number is over sixty percent of Americans. I've
been there, I've lived there. I don't want to go
back to that, but I remember the pressure of having to,
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you know, make my monthly rent payments and put food
on my table, and I really didn't have a backstop.
And that's how many Americans are now living. But how
does the president get to be that out of touch?
Remember when George Herbert Walker Bush, you know, talked about
one of those scanning machines at a grocery store and
the country went insane.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
You talk about a guy out of touch.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
This guy is not in touch with how Americans are
suffering under his policies, or he's just illusional.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Yeah, one of the big lies that I can't believe
they even tried to get away with because it was
so clearly false. I don't know if you saw them
one showng with they said this was the fourth cheapest
Thanksgiving dinner in history. What are they talking about? What
planet that they have when they make those kinds of claims.
One of the ones that bothers me is is home ownership.
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You know, the part of the American dream for the
middle class and for young people is to own your
own home. It's almost the very definition of the American dream. Well,
guess what. The mortgage payments on a median value home
now are twice as high as they were under Trump,
twice as e Sean, So people can't afford to buy
a home now. It is a very dangerous situation for
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the country. I think we could turn things around pretty
quickly if we would just get back to the lower tax,
less regulation policies. I love what Trump' said.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
But it's never going to happen with this administration. We
know that they're not.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
You know, the irony by the way of the fact
that you know you have sixty percent of Americans who
are poorer now than they were when and those tend
to be the poorest Americans who are losing the most ground.
Is all of Biden has done is try to redistribute income.
This has been a total redistribution. And you know, even
with all of those policies in place, the poor and
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the middle class and minorities are doing much worse today
than they were under Trump. And incidentally, you've looked at
these polling numbers, Sean, I know, I've heard you talk
about them. Trump is doing much better with minorities than
Republicans have ever done it, at least in the last
thirty years.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Do you think that that actually translates into real votes
in twenty twenty four, I think.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
It sure could. You know, we will see. But the
approval rating that Trump has today with minorities, especially Hispanics,
I mean Trump could conceivably win over half of the
Hispanic vote.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I mean that would be amazing.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
And frankly, I've been waiting for years for African Americans
to realize that the Democratic Party has not served them well.
I know they come call in every two and four
years and and they look for their vote, but you know,
what have they done in predominantly minority neighborhoods how is policing,
how are their school systems? How have you know how
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their lives improved? How's their economic condition improved. I don't
see the Democrats make progress, but they keep getting re
elected and seemingly by the lie that Republicans are racist
and sexist and every other you know lie that is
told every election season.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
EJ.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Sean. I mean, I think at the end of the day,
people are not going to buy the live when it
affects when the reality affects them so much. In other words,
you can only tell people the economy is good for
so long before they say, you know what the economy
that I feel, the economy that I deal with. You
know the amount of money I make and the amount
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of money I have to pay to live That does
not match the narrative. And I think at that point
that's where voters will turn away. I mean Bill Clinton
was right, it's the economy stupid. You have a quarter
of Americans today who are out trying to do holiday
shopping and are still paying off bills from their holiday
shopping from twenty twenty two. I mean, we just had
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data come out from the Social Security Administration showing that
half of American workers are making less than forty one
thousand dollars right now. How on earth are these people
getting by? I mean, the answer is they're not. They're
having to put all their expenses on credit cards because
they can't make ends meet. They're taking two or they're
getting two or three jobs again because they can't make
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ends meet. We have never had so many people working
multiple jobs as we do today in the Biden economy,
and I think Americans eventually are going to get so
sick of it that they're going to decide that it's
time for a change when it comes to our leadership
here in this country.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Right quick break more on the economy with Steve Moore
and EJ and Tony. Then your calls coming up eight
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How we continue now with economist Steve Moore and economist
dj Antoni. You know, Steve, you were talking about home
ownership the other day. How is it going to ever
be possible for somebody to to ever want to give
up a three percent thirty fixed rate mortgage and move
somewhere else and take on an eight percent plus thirty
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year fixed rate mortgage, you know, on a five hundred
thousand dollars house how much more are you ultimately going
to pay for that house? How much more per month
are you going to pay in terms of your monthly
payment that people cannot afford. It's just no wonder. New
home construction has basically come to a halt. Sale of
pre existing homes are almost non existent, except in certain
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price categories.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I mean, it's that bad.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
And then what options does that provide young people that
are just starting out well.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
EJ has run these numbers more than I have, but roughly,
you know, the average more mortgage payment when Trump was
president was roughly eighteen hundred dollars a month, and now
the average mortgage payment for a new home buyers is
about thirty five hundred dollars a month. That you know,
I have three kids that are in their mid twenties,
early thirties. They're just starting to think about, you know,
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buying a place. They can't afford it. You know, you know,
they're doing pretty well financially, but they just can't afford
a house. I want to mention one other quick statistic
because I think this is one of the things, having
worked for Trump, that we were most proud of, you know,
the black and Hispanic unemployment rate, when Trump was president,
was the lowest in history, and the Black and Hispanic
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poverty rate was the lowest in history. How in the
world did the media and the Democrats get away with
this claim that Trump was a racist president when you
could argue that he did more for minorities than any
modern president.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Oh, I think that's the whole point, EJ. What's your
advice to people then?
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Oh goodness, I mean, unfortunately there are people in terms
of the housing market today don't really have a lot
of good options. And as expensive as it is to
rent right now, because rents have literally never been higher
than they are today, unfortunately, home ownership is so far
out of most people's grasp that for the majority of
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Americans who don't yet own a home, you're better off
continuing to rent. Believe it or not. I mean, right now,
it takes forty four point seven percent of pre tax
median income to afford a median price home. That's the
national average. You have to devote almost half of your
income before taxes to own a home. It's s obscene.
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There are literally only four major metros in the entire
country where homes are considered affordable. And going back to
your point, earlier on, so many people who essentially have
golden handcuffs. They're locked in their home right now because
of the difference and mortgage rates today, you're looking at
about a thirteen thousand dollars jump just from moving to
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a lower interest rate to a higher interest rate today.
That's thirteen dollars thirteen thousand dollars per year every year
for the rest of a thirty year mortgage.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I mean, it's insane.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
So if you're buy a five hundred thousand dollars home
and you're paying eight percent over say three percent, how
much more is that a month? And how much more
would that be off the top of your head over
the course of that loan?
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Oh goodness. I mean again, you're looking at between ten
and fifteen thousand dollars per year, and you're going to
do that every year for thirty years. So you're looking
at somewhere between an extra three hundred to four hundred
and fifty thousand dollars just on interest payments. You're not
getting a newer home, a nicer home for anything like that.
It's literally just the interest expense.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
It's unreal. I mean, I make it so unaffordable. Well,
I like to give people a reality check. I wish
you know in the days leading up to Christmas that
maybe I have better news on the economy, but I
don't like being lied to, and that happens on pretty
much every issue.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I twenty five to the top of the hour. Thank you,
it'd being well us.
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let's get to Let's say hi to Tim and Arizona.
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As a matter of fact, Tim say hi to Ralph
and California. Both are on the same topic. Tim, say
hi to Ralph, Ralph say hi to Tim.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Up.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Hey guys, Hey, Tim, how are you r. Why don't
we start with Tim and Arizona? You want to talk
about the newsom the Santus debate.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
What's up?
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
First of all, thanks for taking I call. Appreciate the opportunity.
This is a perfect opportunity to have side by side
both views. I've heard, you know, over a period of
time now ever since you announced this callers call in
and are afraid to have Gavin Newsom be putting out
his information. The thing is, you have to have the
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truth next to the line to be able to distinguish
the two. This is a biblical way of thinking. God
doesn't want to force us to do anything. He wants
us to choose, and he like in the parable Wat
and the Tears, you put both out together for a
season and let them mature, and then he takes away
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the good and destroys the evil. Well, the same way
with these debates and all this politics. A lot of
it is lies, and there's no leak. Better to show
that than stick it right next to the truth. And
I commend you for doing this. I just ask one
favor favor. I cannot stand in these debates and these
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guys talking over each other.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Well it might be I'm going to try to minimize that.
The format is designed to minimize that. But I'm gonna
also kind of when I can allow them time to
breathe and in other words, once they get the schedule
time if if a natural discussion breaks out and it's
and it's understandable, I will be thinking about you, the audience,
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the whole time.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I promise you.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I don't want bad It's bad television if they're talking
over each other. So uh believe me, that's in the
forefront of my mind, that request. I'm I'm going to
work on Ralph California. You have a different view on.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
This, well, I just think that the Democrats are going
to use Gavin Newsom as a hitman here. We all
know that the guy's a magician. I mean, we've seen
what he did making the homeless and the filth in
San Francisco disappear a week before the other dignitaries got there.
So that's the game that he plays. He will sit
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there and he'll say the things that he wants to say.
I hoped Tim's right and these things are exposed. I mean,
the guy has just basically him and what I call
his administration is the submission commission, because what they've done
is they've forced electric vehicles on people, and forced the
climate change and force the wokism and everything on everybody.
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And he'll sit there and he's a good debater, Sean,
I was impressed he held his own with you, and
that's hard to do.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And well, we didn't have a debate.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
My ours was an interview, and to secure that interview,
I had to give him certain assurances, and I'm a
man of my word, and one was, I will ask
you a question, and I promise you I will give
you uninterrupted time kind of what Tim is requesting to
give an answer, and I did challenge some of his
answers and we went back and forth. I've known him
for a long time, and what I'm telling Republicans is,
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especially when you look at the condition of Joe Biden,
and then you look at Kamala Harris, who's pull numbers
are lower than Joe's, And what I've been telling people
is you better face reality that this guy is a
force within the Democratic ranks, and you better know who
these people are on the bench that may potentially even
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beyond a twenty twenty four ticket. You have two very smart,
personable people up here, and I'm sure that Governor DeSantis
is going to come in and he's going to know
Gavin Newsom's wreck. I would expect that he would know
it backwards and forwards, and I would think the same
with Newsom on DeSantis. And they'll make their points, and
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I have enough faith in the viewers that they're going
to be able to ascertain who they think has better
policies for their states.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Well, I live in Gavin Newsom states, so I already
know who has better policies, that's not even a question.
But when I watch him talk and listen to the
things he says, you know, I mean, when they make
bills in this state, they use catchphrases like safety and
things like that that have nothing to do with those
types of things. So they're constantly using these tricks to
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convince the people of California to vote for things that
aren't good for them or aren't good for a lot
of people. And so I'm worried that they're just using
Gavin Newsom to weaken Ron DeSantis, even though I'm a
Trump guy. But I just think that the whole team
on the Republican side needs to be strong as a group.
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And because who knows what the Democrats are capable of
doing with this Trump situation. We don't know how far
they're going to go, because I don't think there's a
smit to it.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
I think we know how far they want to go.
They want to keep him in a courtroom all through
twenty twenty four. But I'll tell you, Joe Biden has
his own issues, and that is the Biden family syndicate
and the lies that he told and the amount of
money and did he take action as vice president that
resulted in the enrichment of his family, like in the
case of Barisma by withholding a billion dollars in loan guarantees. So,
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you know, look, we're going to see I appreciate the
interest in it. I totally get it, you know, but
we do have a phenomenon happening in this country. This
is why I think this is such an important debate.
You know, why are people fleeing blue states in droves
and going to red states. It's a phenomenon We've never
seen like this in our lifetime. Tim, thank you in Arizona,
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Ralph in California.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
As in the great state of Ohio, the Buckeye State.
I will say, it was a great game with Michigan
over the weekend. I'm sure it didn't come out the
way you wanted.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
They did not come out the way I wanted it.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
But although nothing was better than the Alabama Auburn game,
nothing was better.
Speaker 7 (25:15):
That was a spectacular finish to that game.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
What's going on?
Speaker 7 (25:22):
So you were talking about the exodus from the blue
states to the red I actually know several people that
have left California and moved to Texas, and ironically, they
still work in California. They're firefighters, So they go to
work for a week and they come home for a week,
and they fly back and forth. The problem is that
there's still some of them are still maintaining their democratic views.
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Are you concerned with them watering down you know, a
red state.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Yeah, I'm very concerned about it. And what I'm saying
the people if you're coming from one of these blue
states to escape maybe tax policy and burdens, some regular
and crime or whatever it happens to be, and you
move into a red state, either leave your liberal policies
at home, don't wreck the new state that you're going
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to please.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
Yeah, you went there for a reason. That That is
exactly when I talked to these individuals. That's exactly what
I press on them. So one more thing, I just
heard you talking about the Biden crime syndicate. So Trump
is i mean fighting for his life in a lot
of different areas, but one of them is that he's
not eligible for the upcoming election because of some of
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the charges that have been brought against him, if one
of those states comes through, if one of those states
comes home.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
They just won in Colorado, and let me tell you
that was a huge win and allowed message the argument
that they're making that I believe that he should be
ineligible to be on the ticket, and it's not going
to fly constitutionally.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
That will be challenged.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
The Supreme Court would have to take it up, and
there's no way that I ever see that happening.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
Well, my one question is if that does happen, that
go through in one state, if charges get brought up
against Biden, wouldn't that also remove him from that same state?
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Well potentially, I mean if you're look and you can't
charge a sitting president. So that's not going to happen
while he's running this election cycle.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
I didn't realize that.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I guess you can.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
Yep. So appreciate it, Sean, thank you for taking.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
My call, you bet Man, Thanks Scott and Ohio. We
appreciate it. I quick break right back to our phones.
Our number is eight hundred nine four one, Seawn. If
you want to be a part of the program as
we continue its eight hundred nine four one. Shawn is
on number let's say hi too. Is it Janelle Jell
in South Carolina?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
How are you?
Speaker 9 (27:52):
I'm doing well? Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I'm glad you called.
Speaker 9 (27:57):
Thanks. I'm glad I called to longtime listeners.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Caller.
Speaker 9 (28:01):
I live in South Carolina and I'm thirty seven years old.
I listen to you every day, and I always hear
callers call in and give false narratives about especially black
women and in the way that they vote. I am
not a Kamala supporter. If it was Kamala versus anybody,
I'm voting for anybody. I've never related to her. I
don't care that she's black. She hasn't done anything for
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her community, let alone the United States. And then I
think the way to turn over black voters is to
stop pushing that narrative that we only are going to
vote Democrat, We're only going to support, you know, black
people that have rose to that position.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
It's not Jane, let me interrupt you briefly here. It's
not just a narrative.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
It's also you know, every election, we get to analyze demographics.
We can tell you demographically how people vote, and the
African American vote in this country overwhelmingly goes Democratic and
it's happened for years, and I don't think think Democrats
have done a good job for minority communities at all.
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They basically show up every two and four years and
ask for a vote and do nothing thereafter.
Speaker 9 (29:08):
The way to get those the black people that will
vote Republican, they just don't vote at all. Those votes
are out there, but I would the reason it's not Trump,
it's the constituents. When you're pushing away the black vote
by saying, oh, they don't care. I'd rather not vote
at all. I'm not going to vote Democrat because I'm
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mad at a Republican.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
I'm just not going to vote at all.
Speaker 9 (29:31):
So those people that aren't voting are Republican. They're going
to put in a Republican vote. But you have to
welcome those people in. You have to give them something
to relate to. It's hard. I'm not going to vote Democrat,
but it's hard to say, oh, let me go vote
Republican when they're set. They're pushing me out. You're telling
me I'm not Republican. You're telling me it feels like
I'm not wanted.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I don't think Republicans are doing that. I think this
is a narrative. Look at the way, for example, why
in this day and age of political correctness and and
you can't use the wrong pronoun, Why is it still
socially acceptable to say the most horrible things about African
American conservatives? Why is that phenomenon exist? You know, look
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at the things said recently about Senator Tim Scott. Look
what's been said about Clarence Thomas. Look you know the
long list of conservative, prominent conservative African Americans and the
names that they have been called. How is that even
acceptable in an error where you know.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
If you use the the wrong pronoun.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Jimmy Fallon is under fire for being nice to a guest,
but but said, hey, Bud, and I guess the person
was transgender, and he's under fire right now for that.
So it's it's the insanity in which we live in.
The reality is is. I think that Republicans are close.
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I think if people once it becomes socially, once it
becomes more social league dominant, that we we hear more
from African Americans that are conservative. I think this that
demographic shift will happen. I think the policies of conservatism
are better for everybody, not just African Americans, but every American,
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where do.
Speaker 9 (31:15):
Black conservatives fit? Because there's a oh, they don't exist.
And when you're talking down on the population like that,
then they're not going to they don't want to show
up at all. That's what I'm saying. And when you're
doing it at the level where you're talking senators and
calling them out that, why.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
What do you say? Are you saying?
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Can you give me a specific example of Republicans doing that?
Speaker 9 (31:35):
No, I haven't no, no, no, no, no. I'm not
saying Republicans are doing that. I'm voting for a Republican.
I'm I haven't met. We're not with Democrats, and I'm
tired of people grouping blacks and Democrats. We're not with
them there. We're not with the U say you're pronoun
We don't follow in that. We're not with the with
the abortion, We're not with that. That's something that the
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media pushes.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
We're totally the The numbers of African Americans in recent
polling showing support for Donald Trump is enormous, and I
hope it translates in a general election vote because if
those numbers were to hold, or even hold, if you're
able to hold half of where the numbers are now,
he would be elected the forty seventh president of the
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United States.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
For sure, he gets.
Speaker 9 (32:23):
There, and I'm going to do what I can to
help him get there. But we have to have support
from the constituents too. It's not going to be enough
for Donald Trump to put all the money and adds
out he's wants, but you have to have the constituents
and the community coming together on this. You can't have
people pushing people away because then you don't get a
vote at all. And that's what's keeping it. What if
you want them votes and then welcome those people in.
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Stop saying that they're not educating. Stop saying that they're
all Democrats, because that's not it. That's not it.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
I'm thirty sevens and.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Then Republicans need to follow through. They need to deliver.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
If predominantly neglected areas in the country that our minority
have been neglected, Republicans need to fix it. They need
to restore law and order and safety and security, and
fix the failing educational system. If they do those things,
then they'll be rewarded with votes, you know, for generations
in my view. But anyway, Janelle, we love having you
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Thank you so much for your kind words. Thank you
for calling uh please call off and we appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (33:24):
Thank you,
Well, we have come in.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
To your sentence, Donna Way, I again Thalas and saying
you a conco sound.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Will be.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
Till and if you want a little banging and yengy,
I come along.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
President Biden, what is his job approval rating?
Speaker 5 (00:22):
We measure it now at forty percent with fifty seven
percent disapproving. The significance That is the lowest President Biden
has ever measured in our poll.
Speaker 6 (00:31):
I want to talk about Governor Newsen. I want to
thank you. He's been one hell of a governor man.
Matter of fact, he could dated he get having a
job I'm looking for.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
And over the past two years along we've seized enough
fentanyl to kill two hundred and seventy million Americans. Frado
is back in style.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Welcome to the revolution.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah, well, coming to your sentence, going the way I
against Thalas and saying can you a conscious saw New
Sean Hennity Show, more me I'm the scenes, information on
freaking news.
Speaker 7 (01:09):
And more bold inspired solutions for America.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Right, Thanks Scott you Han An hour two Sean Hannity's
show Told Free It's eight hundred and ninety four one Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program,
so we're just flat out being lined to on a
lot of issues. For example, you have Kamala Harris, Joe Biden,
you have Majorcis, Alejandro Mayorcis, the Department of Homeland Security Secretary,
(01:34):
and you have the entire administration Colleen Jean Pierre. Prior
to her circle back Jens Taki, I'll circle back with
you on that. And what do we have them saying
about the border? The border has closed, the border is secure.
Not true, None of it's true. Biden literally made the
statement that the cost of food and groceries are down.
(01:57):
We gave you all of these numbers yesterday, we'll give
to you again today, but just listen to them, just
flat out live.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
There was a conversation to kitchen table, I mean literally
not figuring. Those conversations have been going on kitchen tables
all across America for a while now. A conversation, a
conversation about whether we'd have enough left over at the
end of the month for my dad to be able
to used to say, have a little bit of breathing room. Well,
(02:25):
this past week, as Americans gathered around their own kitchen
tables for Thanksgiving dinner, that was our goal to get
them a little more breathing room, and together we made progress.
You know, from Turkey to air travel to tank of
gas costs went down, they went down.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And when all else fails.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
By the way, if you're a Democrat, well the next
thing is, let's blame Donald Trump. Donald Trump's been out
of office for three years. This has been your economy.
You gave us two trillion dollars in debt, you gave
us high inflation, you gave us record gas prices that
all happened on their watch. But yet they don't seem
at all to even want to face what is truth
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and what is reality?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Why do you think it is that when you say
the economy is improving and President Biden says the economy
is improving, that a majority of Americans outside of his
building are not buying.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 8 (03:23):
When we walked into this administration, the economy was on
ail sip a tailspin. That is the fact, because of
the last administration, because of the Trump administration, because of
how they dealt with dealt with COVID and the pandemic,
because they didn't have a comprehensive plan.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
All right, joining us now, Steve Moore, economists author of
the best seller of trump Bonomics, Inside the America First
Plan to Revive Our Economy.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Ej.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Antoni is back with US research fellow Regional Economics Center
for Data Analysis. Guys, welcome back, both of you. Great
to hear from you. So okay, all the reality shows
the opposite. So why are they just out blot out
lying to the American people? And when the Washington Post
even says that they're lying and that they better get
(04:13):
rid of and just eliminate the term Bidenomics, I think
that says a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Steve Moore, Well.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Sean, it's very simple. When you have roughly seventy five
to eighty percent of Americans who say the economy is
headed in the wrong direction, you better start getting very
worried about things. I mean, those are worse numbers on
than you know, when Richard Nixon was president during Watergate
and Jimmy Carter in the height of the eleven and
twelve percent inflation we had in nineteen seventy nine and
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nineteen eighty. So this should be worrisome, and instead the
Biden administration simply pretends like it isn't happening. Now, it
is true to give Biden some credit the inflation rate
is down from nine point two percent to about four
percent now, although a lot of people think it's the
I more than four percent. But even still, the prices
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keep rising faster than people's incomes. And that's why I
think Trump is in a very positive position right now.
Why so many you know, voters are saying, I'm going
to give Trump a second look now because they see
and feel the fact that they are poor today than
they were three or four years ago. And that is
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not a position the Democrats want to be in. And
to just pretend to live in fantasy land and say
things are just fine. Boy, that's a dangerous, dangerous line.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Well, it really is in every way imaginable here, I
got to tell you. I mean, I think these are
scary times for most Americans, at least that's my takeaway
from this. But you know, Biden was slammed for bragging
that he's bringing prices down, even though that they are
up since he entered office.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
You know, if you if you.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Look at the facts, airfare is up twenty one percent,
Thanksgiving dinner was up twenty five percent. Guests gas is
almost a dollar more gallon, which is insane. Gas under
Donald Trump never got to a national average of three
dollars a gallon your take, EJ.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Seana, I think you're absolutely right here. Things are much
worse today than when Biden took office. But if you
go into the White House Press briefing room, there's a
very subtle sleight of hand there where the Press Secretary
starts talking about not comparing today to when Biden took office,
but comparing today to pre pandemics. And they'll talk about
(06:33):
real wagers, or they'll talk about credit card debt, whatever
the case may be. And so they always have to
include part of President Trump's term in order to try
to make Biden look better. But I mean, at the
end of the day, there's just no way to make
this situation look better. We have over one point one
trillion dollars in credit card debt right now, and consumers,
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because they've maxed out so many of their credit cards
on Black Friday, they overwhelmingly had to use this buy now,
pay later option at retailers that went up by billions
compared to the previous year. Meanwhile, we're seeing all kinds
of delinquency rates, whether it's on these credit cards or
auto loans rising, and in fact delinquencies right now. Although
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the level is low because we're basically coming off the
baseline of zero, the delinquency rate is rising at the
fastest pace since the Great Recession. So, by no means
is the consumer in good shape in Biden's economy.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Now, when I look at the number Steve More, that
bothers me the most. I look at the number of
you know, the number of Americans now that you know
can't make ends meet or that a living paycheck to paycheck.
That's that number is over sixty percent of Americans. I've
been there, I've lived there. I don't want to go
back to that, but I remember the pressure of having to,
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you know, make my monthly rent payments and put food
on my table, and I really didn't have a backstop.
And that's how many Americans are now living. But how
does the president get to be that out of touch?
Remember when George Herbert Walker Bush, you know, talked about
one of those scanning machines at a grocery store and
the country went insane.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
You talk about a guy out of touch.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
This guy is not in touch with how Americans are
suffering under his policies, or he's just illusional.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Yeah, one of the big lies that I can't believe
they even tried to get away with because it was
so clearly false. I don't know if you saw them
one showng with they said this was the fourth cheapest
Thanksgiving dinner in history. What are they talking about? What
planet that they have when they make those kinds of claims.
One of the ones that bothers me is is home ownership.
(08:46):
You know, the part of the American dream for the
middle class and for young people is to own your
own home. It's almost the very definition of the American dream. Well,
guess what. The mortgage payments on a median value home
now are twice as high as they were under Trump,
twice as e Sean, So people can't afford to buy
a home now. It is a very dangerous situation for
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the country. I think we could turn things around pretty
quickly if we would just get back to the lower tax,
less regulation policies. I love what Trump' said.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
But it's never going to happen with this administration. We
know that they're not.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
You know, the irony by the way of the fact
that you know you have sixty percent of Americans who
are poorer now than they were when and those tend
to be the poorest Americans who are losing the most ground.
Is all of Biden has done is try to redistribute income.
This has been a total redistribution. And you know, even
with all of those policies in place, the poor and
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the middle class and minorities are doing much worse today
than they were under Trump. And incidentally, you've looked at
these polling numbers, Sean, I know, I've heard you talk
about them. Trump is doing much better with minorities than
Republicans have ever done it, at least in the last
thirty years.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Do you think that that actually translates into real votes
in twenty twenty four, I think.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
It sure could. You know, we will see. But the
approval rating that Trump has today with minorities, especially Hispanics,
I mean Trump could conceivably win over half of the
Hispanic vote.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I mean that would be amazing.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
And frankly, I've been waiting for years for African Americans
to realize that the Democratic Party has not served them well.
I know they come call in every two and four
years and and they look for their vote, but you know,
what have they done in predominantly minority neighborhoods how is policing,
how are their school systems? How have you know how
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their lives improved? How's their economic condition improved. I don't
see the Democrats make progress, but they keep getting re
elected and seemingly by the lie that Republicans are racist
and sexist and every other you know lie that is
told every election season.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
EJ.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Sean. I mean, I think at the end of the day,
people are not going to buy the live when it
affects when the reality affects them so much. In other words,
you can only tell people the economy is good for
so long before they say, you know what the economy
that I feel, the economy that I deal with. You
know the amount of money I make and the amount
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of money I have to pay to live That does
not match the narrative. And I think at that point
that's where voters will turn away. I mean Bill Clinton
was right, it's the economy stupid. You have a quarter
of Americans today who are out trying to do holiday
shopping and are still paying off bills from their holiday
shopping from twenty twenty two. I mean, we just had
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data come out from the Social Security Administration showing that
half of American workers are making less than forty one
thousand dollars right now. How on earth are these people
getting by? I mean, the answer is they're not. They're
having to put all their expenses on credit cards because
they can't make ends meet. They're taking two or they're
getting two or three jobs again because they can't make
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ends meet. We have never had so many people working
multiple jobs as we do today in the Biden economy,
and I think Americans eventually are going to get so
sick of it that they're going to decide that it's
time for a change when it comes to our leadership
here in this country.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Right quick break more on the economy with Steve Moore
and EJ and Tony. Then your calls coming up eight
hundred and nine to four one sean if you want
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Speaker 2 (12:31):
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How we continue now with economist Steve Moore and economist
dj Antoni. You know, Steve, you were talking about home
ownership the other day. How is it going to ever
be possible for somebody to to ever want to give
up a three percent thirty fixed rate mortgage and move
somewhere else and take on an eight percent plus thirty
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year fixed rate mortgage, you know, on a five hundred
thousand dollars house how much more are you ultimately going
to pay for that house? How much more per month
are you going to pay in terms of your monthly
payment that people cannot afford. It's just no wonder. New
home construction has basically come to a halt. Sale of
pre existing homes are almost non existent, except in certain
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price categories.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I mean, it's that bad.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
And then what options does that provide young people that
are just starting out well.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
EJ has run these numbers more than I have, but roughly,
you know, the average more mortgage payment when Trump was
president was roughly eighteen hundred dollars a month, and now
the average mortgage payment for a new home buyers is
about thirty five hundred dollars a month. That you know,
I have three kids that are in their mid twenties,
early thirties. They're just starting to think about, you know,
(14:57):
buying a place. They can't afford it. You know, you know,
they're doing pretty well financially, but they just can't afford
a house. I want to mention one other quick statistic
because I think this is one of the things, having
worked for Trump, that we were most proud of, you know,
the black and Hispanic unemployment rate, when Trump was president,
was the lowest in history, and the Black and Hispanic
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poverty rate was the lowest in history. How in the
world did the media and the Democrats get away with
this claim that Trump was a racist president when you
could argue that he did more for minorities than any
modern president.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Oh, I think that's the whole point, EJ. What's your
advice to people then?
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Oh goodness, I mean, unfortunately there are people in terms
of the housing market today don't really have a lot
of good options. And as expensive as it is to
rent right now, because rents have literally never been higher
than they are today, unfortunately, home ownership is so far
out of most people's grasp that for the majority of
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Americans who don't yet own a home, you're better off
continuing to rent. Believe it or not. I mean, right now,
it takes forty four point seven percent of pre tax
median income to afford a median price home. That's the
national average. You have to devote almost half of your
income before taxes to own a home. It's s obscene.
(16:20):
There are literally only four major metros in the entire
country where homes are considered affordable. And going back to
your point, earlier on, so many people who essentially have
golden handcuffs. They're locked in their home right now because
of the difference and mortgage rates today, you're looking at
about a thirteen thousand dollars jump just from moving to
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a lower interest rate to a higher interest rate today.
That's thirteen dollars thirteen thousand dollars per year every year
for the rest of a thirty year mortgage.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I mean, it's insane.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
So if you're buy a five hundred thousand dollars home
and you're paying eight percent over say three percent, how
much more is that a month? And how much more
would that be off the top of your head over
the course of that loan?
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Oh goodness. I mean again, you're looking at between ten
and fifteen thousand dollars per year, and you're going to
do that every year for thirty years. So you're looking
at somewhere between an extra three hundred to four hundred
and fifty thousand dollars just on interest payments. You're not
getting a newer home, a nicer home for anything like that.
It's literally just the interest expense.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
It's unreal. I mean, I make it so unaffordable. Well,
I like to give people a reality check. I wish
you know in the days leading up to Christmas that
maybe I have better news on the economy, but I
don't like being lied to, and that happens on pretty
much every issue.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I twenty five to the top of the hour. Thank you,
it'd being well us.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
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let's get to Let's say hi to Tim and Arizona.
(19:06):
As a matter of fact, Tim say hi to Ralph
and California. Both are on the same topic. Tim, say
hi to Ralph, Ralph say hi to Tim.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Up.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Hey guys, Hey, Tim, how are you r. Why don't
we start with Tim and Arizona? You want to talk
about the newsom the Santus debate.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
What's up?
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
First of all, thanks for taking I call. Appreciate the opportunity.
This is a perfect opportunity to have side by side
both views. I've heard, you know, over a period of
time now ever since you announced this callers call in
and are afraid to have Gavin Newsom be putting out
his information. The thing is, you have to have the
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truth next to the line to be able to distinguish
the two. This is a biblical way of thinking. God
doesn't want to force us to do anything. He wants
us to choose, and he like in the parable Wat
and the Tears, you put both out together for a
season and let them mature, and then he takes away
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the good and destroys the evil. Well, the same way
with these debates and all this politics. A lot of
it is lies, and there's no leak. Better to show
that than stick it right next to the truth. And
I commend you for doing this. I just ask one
favor favor. I cannot stand in these debates and these
(20:28):
guys talking over each other.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Well it might be I'm going to try to minimize that.
The format is designed to minimize that. But I'm gonna
also kind of when I can allow them time to
breathe and in other words, once they get the schedule
time if if a natural discussion breaks out and it's
and it's understandable, I will be thinking about you, the audience,
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the whole time.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I promise you.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I don't want bad It's bad television if they're talking
over each other. So uh believe me, that's in the
forefront of my mind, that request. I'm I'm going to
work on Ralph California. You have a different view on.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
This, well, I just think that the Democrats are going
to use Gavin Newsom as a hitman here. We all
know that the guy's a magician. I mean, we've seen
what he did making the homeless and the filth in
San Francisco disappear a week before the other dignitaries got there.
So that's the game that he plays. He will sit
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there and he'll say the things that he wants to say.
I hoped Tim's right and these things are exposed. I mean,
the guy has just basically him and what I call
his administration is the submission commission, because what they've done
is they've forced electric vehicles on people, and forced the
climate change and force the wokism and everything on everybody.
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And he'll sit there and he's a good debater, Sean,
I was impressed he held his own with you, and
that's hard to do.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And well, we didn't have a debate.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
My ours was an interview, and to secure that interview,
I had to give him certain assurances, and I'm a
man of my word, and one was, I will ask
you a question, and I promise you I will give
you uninterrupted time kind of what Tim is requesting to
give an answer, and I did challenge some of his
answers and we went back and forth. I've known him
for a long time, and what I'm telling Republicans is,
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especially when you look at the condition of Joe Biden,
and then you look at Kamala Harris, who's pull numbers
are lower than Joe's, And what I've been telling people
is you better face reality that this guy is a
force within the Democratic ranks, and you better know who
these people are on the bench that may potentially even
(22:48):
beyond a twenty twenty four ticket. You have two very smart,
personable people up here, and I'm sure that Governor DeSantis
is going to come in and he's going to know
Gavin Newsom's wreck. I would expect that he would know
it backwards and forwards, and I would think the same
with Newsom on DeSantis. And they'll make their points, and
(23:08):
I have enough faith in the viewers that they're going
to be able to ascertain who they think has better
policies for their states.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Well, I live in Gavin Newsom states, so I already
know who has better policies, that's not even a question.
But when I watch him talk and listen to the
things he says, you know, I mean, when they make
bills in this state, they use catchphrases like safety and
things like that that have nothing to do with those
types of things. So they're constantly using these tricks to
(23:39):
convince the people of California to vote for things that
aren't good for them or aren't good for a lot
of people. And so I'm worried that they're just using
Gavin Newsom to weaken Ron DeSantis, even though I'm a
Trump guy. But I just think that the whole team
on the Republican side needs to be strong as a group.
(24:02):
And because who knows what the Democrats are capable of
doing with this Trump situation. We don't know how far
they're going to go, because I don't think there's a
smit to it.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
I think we know how far they want to go.
They want to keep him in a courtroom all through
twenty twenty four. But I'll tell you, Joe Biden has
his own issues, and that is the Biden family syndicate
and the lies that he told and the amount of
money and did he take action as vice president that
resulted in the enrichment of his family, like in the
case of Barisma by withholding a billion dollars in loan guarantees. So,
(24:36):
you know, look, we're going to see I appreciate the
interest in it. I totally get it, you know, but
we do have a phenomenon happening in this country. This
is why I think this is such an important debate.
You know, why are people fleeing blue states in droves
and going to red states. It's a phenomenon We've never
seen like this in our lifetime. Tim, thank you in Arizona,
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Ralph in California.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
As in the great state of Ohio, the Buckeye State.
I will say, it was a great game with Michigan
over the weekend. I'm sure it didn't come out the
way you wanted.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
They did not come out the way I wanted it.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
But although nothing was better than the Alabama Auburn game,
nothing was better.
Speaker 7 (25:15):
That was a spectacular finish to that game.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
What's going on?
Speaker 7 (25:22):
So you were talking about the exodus from the blue
states to the red I actually know several people that
have left California and moved to Texas, and ironically, they
still work in California. They're firefighters, So they go to
work for a week and they come home for a week,
and they fly back and forth. The problem is that
there's still some of them are still maintaining their democratic views.
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Are you concerned with them watering down you know, a
red state.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Yeah, I'm very concerned about it. And what I'm saying
the people if you're coming from one of these blue
states to escape maybe tax policy and burdens, some regular
and crime or whatever it happens to be, and you
move into a red state, either leave your liberal policies
at home, don't wreck the new state that you're going
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to please.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
Yeah, you went there for a reason. That That is
exactly when I talked to these individuals. That's exactly what
I press on them. So one more thing, I just
heard you talking about the Biden crime syndicate. So Trump
is i mean fighting for his life in a lot
of different areas, but one of them is that he's
not eligible for the upcoming election because of some of
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the charges that have been brought against him, if one
of those states comes through, if one of those states
comes home.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
They just won in Colorado, and let me tell you
that was a huge win and allowed message the argument
that they're making that I believe that he should be
ineligible to be on the ticket, and it's not going
to fly constitutionally.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
That will be challenged.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
The Supreme Court would have to take it up, and
there's no way that I ever see that happening.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
Well, my one question is if that does happen, that
go through in one state, if charges get brought up
against Biden, wouldn't that also remove him from that same state?
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Well potentially, I mean if you're look and you can't
charge a sitting president. So that's not going to happen
while he's running this election cycle.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
I didn't realize that.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I guess you can.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
Yep. So appreciate it, Sean, thank you for taking.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
My call, you bet Man, Thanks Scott and Ohio. We
appreciate it. I quick break right back to our phones.
Our number is eight hundred nine four one, Seawn. If
you want to be a part of the program as
we continue its eight hundred nine four one. Shawn is
on number let's say hi too. Is it Janelle Jell
in South Carolina?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
How are you?
Speaker 9 (27:52):
I'm doing well? Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I'm glad you called.
Speaker 9 (27:57):
Thanks. I'm glad I called to longtime listeners.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Caller.
Speaker 9 (28:01):
I live in South Carolina and I'm thirty seven years old.
I listen to you every day, and I always hear
callers call in and give false narratives about especially black
women and in the way that they vote. I am
not a Kamala supporter. If it was Kamala versus anybody,
I'm voting for anybody. I've never related to her. I
don't care that she's black. She hasn't done anything for
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her community, let alone the United States. And then I
think the way to turn over black voters is to
stop pushing that narrative that we only are going to
vote Democrat, We're only going to support, you know, black
people that have rose to that position.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
It's not Jane, let me interrupt you briefly here. It's
not just a narrative.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
It's also you know, every election, we get to analyze demographics.
We can tell you demographically how people vote, and the
African American vote in this country overwhelmingly goes Democratic and
it's happened for years, and I don't think think Democrats
have done a good job for minority communities at all.
(29:04):
They basically show up every two and four years and
ask for a vote and do nothing thereafter.
Speaker 9 (29:08):
The way to get those the black people that will
vote Republican, they just don't vote at all. Those votes
are out there, but I would the reason it's not Trump,
it's the constituents. When you're pushing away the black vote
by saying, oh, they don't care. I'd rather not vote
at all. I'm not going to vote Democrat because I'm
(29:28):
mad at a Republican.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
I'm just not going to vote at all.
Speaker 9 (29:31):
So those people that aren't voting are Republican. They're going
to put in a Republican vote. But you have to
welcome those people in. You have to give them something
to relate to. It's hard. I'm not going to vote Democrat,
but it's hard to say, oh, let me go vote
Republican when they're set. They're pushing me out. You're telling
me I'm not Republican. You're telling me it feels like
I'm not wanted.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I don't think Republicans are doing that. I think this
is a narrative. Look at the way, for example, why
in this day and age of political correctness and and
you can't use the wrong pronoun, Why is it still
socially acceptable to say the most horrible things about African
American conservatives? Why is that phenomenon exist? You know, look
(30:14):
at the things said recently about Senator Tim Scott. Look
what's been said about Clarence Thomas. Look you know the
long list of conservative, prominent conservative African Americans and the
names that they have been called. How is that even
acceptable in an error where you know.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
If you use the the wrong pronoun.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Jimmy Fallon is under fire for being nice to a guest,
but but said, hey, Bud, and I guess the person
was transgender, and he's under fire right now for that.
So it's it's the insanity in which we live in.
The reality is is. I think that Republicans are close.
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I think if people once it becomes socially, once it
becomes more social league dominant, that we we hear more
from African Americans that are conservative. I think this that
demographic shift will happen. I think the policies of conservatism
are better for everybody, not just African Americans, but every American,
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where do.
Speaker 9 (31:15):
Black conservatives fit? Because there's a oh, they don't exist.
And when you're talking down on the population like that,
then they're not going to they don't want to show
up at all. That's what I'm saying. And when you're
doing it at the level where you're talking senators and
calling them out that, why.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
What do you say? Are you saying?
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Can you give me a specific example of Republicans doing that?
Speaker 9 (31:35):
No, I haven't no, no, no, no, no. I'm not
saying Republicans are doing that. I'm voting for a Republican.
I'm I haven't met. We're not with Democrats, and I'm
tired of people grouping blacks and Democrats. We're not with
them there. We're not with the U say you're pronoun
We don't follow in that. We're not with the with
the abortion, We're not with that. That's something that the
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media pushes.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
We're totally the The numbers of African Americans in recent
polling showing support for Donald Trump is enormous, and I
hope it translates in a general election vote because if
those numbers were to hold, or even hold, if you're
able to hold half of where the numbers are now,
he would be elected the forty seventh president of the
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United States.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
For sure, he gets.
Speaker 9 (32:23):
There, and I'm going to do what I can to
help him get there. But we have to have support
from the constituents too. It's not going to be enough
for Donald Trump to put all the money and adds
out he's wants, but you have to have the constituents
and the community coming together on this. You can't have
people pushing people away because then you don't get a
vote at all. And that's what's keeping it. What if
you want them votes and then welcome those people in.
(32:46):
Stop saying that they're not educating. Stop saying that they're
all Democrats, because that's not it. That's not it.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
I'm thirty sevens and.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Then Republicans need to follow through. They need to deliver.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
If predominantly neglected areas in the country that our minority
have been neglected, Republicans need to fix it. They need
to restore law and order and safety and security, and
fix the failing educational system. If they do those things,
then they'll be rewarded with votes, you know, for generations
in my view. But anyway, Janelle, we love having you
(33:20):
Thank you so much for your kind words. Thank you
for calling uh please call off and we appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (33:24):
Thank you,
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