January 14, 2022 • 31 mins
The Honorable Robert Henneke, general counsel, and executive director at the Texas Public Policy Foundation is the lead counsel for the plaintiffs in both cases.
He represents five Texas staffing agencies that sued OSHA over the mandate and obtained a first-in-the-nation stay at the Fifth Circuit.
Also joining him is the Attorney General of Louisiana, Jeff Landry, who was at the Supreme Court for the entire 4-hour process a week ago; they will discuss yesterday’s supreme court ruling regarding CMS and OSHA.
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Trap Behind Enemy Lines, Day number one fifty three right
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our two Sean Hannity Show. Thanks for being with us
eight hundred and nine for one Sean. If you want
to be a part of the program. I like what
doctor Mark Siegel said. Operations Snail Speed versus Warp Speed
and how embarrassing that the White House had to correct
Kamala Harris's claim that, oh, we're sending out five hundred
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million tests next week. No you're not. No, they weren't
prepared for Christmas. It is unforgivable that they ran out
of test They ran out of therapeutics, monoclonal antibodies, anti viral,
they ran out of everything, and all of this was
handed to them. You can't even make up how bad
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it is. Even the tests now are on back order
with no sense of urgency, and Joe is out there
scolding Americans for not wearing masks. These masks that they're
talking about that I'm finding. I'm finding people that wear
masks that are still testing positive. So anyway, they announced
the plan. Finally, what is today's date, the fourteenth of January.
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We knew Amicron was coming in early October. They were
offered seven hundred and thirty two million tests a month,
and they turned it down. That's not my reporting, that's
vanity fairs reporting. It's you can't even make it up.
It's it's so bad. Biden says, if you're unvaccinated, you're
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seventeen times more likely to get hospitalized. Nobody trust these
people anymore. Nobody, and why should they. Now, there was
a CDC study that came out. We already knew amicron
was more contagious and less lethal than the delta variant.
The CDC study is saying the omicron variant is ninety
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one percent less fatal than delta. I just don't believe.
I cannot, in good conscience take that on face value
and believe it. It might be true. But unless I
hear from somebody other than the NIH, other than Fauci,
other than the CDC. You know what, they're ever ever changing.
You know, the bar moves every day with them. We
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have one Republican Senator, Roger Marshall. He's from Kansas. We've
had him on the program. He's introducing the Fauci Act
after the doctor called him a moron. Good. I like that.
I like the Fauci Act. Less than one third of
voters trust Anthony Fauci. Only sixteen percent trust Biden and
trust their own doctor. You know, Fauci says we're not
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going to eradicate the virus. Now we've got thousands of
schools going to remote learning again anyway, So they had
a big blow as part of their awful week. Let
me play Clarence Thomas and Sam Alito in their arguments
when during oral arguments, when they made some comments, it's
very revealing on the issue of whether you're trying to
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squeeze an elephant into a mousehole and the question of
whether this is fundamentally different from anything that OSHA has
ever done before. I want to see if it might
be fundamentally different in at least two respects and get
your answer to the question. Most OSHA regulations, all of
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the ones with which I'm familiar, affect employees when they
are on the job, but not when they are not
on the job. And this affects employees all the time.
If you're vaccinated while you're on the job, you're vaccinated
when you're not on the job. Isn't this different from
anything OSHA has done before in that respect? Your argument? Also,
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would your argument be the same for any infectious disease
that is taken into the workplace? No. I think that
with respect to other infectious diseases, it would be necessary
for OSHA to develop the record to demonstrate that the
requisite risk level that the requires it sat. It's not
that you would do it, but could you do it
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if there were in fact a grave danger to employees
posed by another infectious disease, then yes, we think that
Congress clearly contemplated that OSHA is obligated and charged with
the response. Has OSHA ever done that? OSHA has an
activity number of standards that express those kinds of threats.
For example, the blood borne pathogen standard that we have
pointed to before was intended to protect employees from the
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risk of viruses that they can contract through bloodborne transmission.
Is that in the general workplace or just in healthcare?
That standard applied anywhere where employees can predictably encounter bloodborne pathogen.
So it wasn't just the healthcare context. It can apply
to flight attendants, it can apply to janitors. It was
a standard that directly targeted the exposure reever it exists,
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just like this one does. All right, all part of
a disastrous week. We've got to tip our hat too.
Attorneys general all around the country and many other groups.
We had j Seculo and Jordan Seculo on yesterday from
the ACLJ, the American Center for Law Injustice. They had
represented the Heritage Foundation in this case. We've we've talked
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to so much I can't even name all the attorney
attorneys Generals Bernovich out in Arizona joining us now as
Attorney general from Louisiana. Jeff Landry, he was at the
Supreme Court during oral arguments, and the honorable Robert Hennekey,
General Council executive director at the Texas Public Policy Foundation
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and the lead counsel for the plaintiffs in both cases.
And he represents five Texas staffing agencies that sued OSHA
over the mandate and obtained a first in the nations
stay in the Fifth Circuit. Gentlemen, take a bow. You
both did a great job. Thank you for your hard work.
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Robert will start with you your take on the ruling
and what this means because Joe Biden is now out
there saying that state should ignore the high courts ruling. Well,
that's a lawless pronouncement. And Sean, it's such a privilege
to be with you. Also, glad to be joining my
friend Jeff Landry in celebrating yesterday's milestone victory which not
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just stop the private backs mandate from the Biden administration,
but let's reflect that this was going to impact over
eighty million Americans who are going to be subject to
this unlawful vaccine mandate that the bidenstration has invested nearly
a quarter of its administration so far in terms of
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promoting and seeking to enforce. So a milestone victory yesterday
in a coalition effort. I mean, with credit to the
state attorneys general across the nation and all the private
parties that came together to fight this with one voice.
Yesterday was the right outcome, but in some ways still
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leaves the insistence by the Biden administration that they have
the power to do this, albeit in a different way,
unresolved and part of the war to be fought and
continue to be fought against this kind of tyranny. Yeah,
and what's your take, Attorney General Landry Well, First of all,
you know, Sean, thank you for giving me some time.
I definitely want to thank the Texas Policy Institute and
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the Pelican Institute here in Louisiana. I think one of
the things that really stood out in Ocean case were
the number of actual plaintiffs, the number of businesses that
went out there and actually joined attorneys generals from around
the country in opposing this particular mandate. I think that
I don't know that Americans understand how close we came
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to basically an unbridled federal government that could reach into
our lives at any moment. I mean, if both of
these mandates had been upheld by this court, the question
is is there a limitation to the federal government's reach.
I mean, because what these mandates do is they mandate
a medical procedure on a person by coercing them with
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their livelihood. Right. So in other words, if you say no,
they say, okay, well we'll just take your job away.
I mean, think about the breath of that in the
United States of America under our constitution. Well, I look
at this in the sixth three ruling. Let me ask
both of you about part two of this ruling as
it relates to hospital workers and facility. Is that received
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Medicare Medicaid money. What's your take on that? Robert Hennikey,
the Medicare healthcare worker decision is going to be a disaster,
and I disagree with it. And here the Chief Justice
Roberts and Justice Kavanaugh flipping sides to join with the
liberals was the wrong outcome. I'm really fearful of what
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this is going to By the way Kavanaugh is getting
torched for doing it. I mean, hey, they are furious appropriately,
So I mean, which Brett Kavanaugh are we talking about
here when two cases are decided in opposite ways. But
if you look at the percentage of healthcare workers who
are the front and center at this, let's say they're
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the most educated people that are out there about what
COVID looks like. If these individuals who have been caring
for America for two years have chosen that they do
not want to take the vaccine, they have every right
to do so. But if you eliminate the ten or
fifteen or twenty percent of the healthcare work horse that
is currently not vaccinated here the next couple of weeks,
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it's not just going to be disruptive to nursing homes
and hospitals and assistant living facilities. It's going to be
dangerous and potentially life threatening when we have staffing shortages,
especially at the time that you have high rates of
illness because of the winter months. So the Supreme Court
got it wrong, and I think that we're going to
see here in short order the dangerous effects of that outcome. Yeah,
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your take, Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry, I agree as well.
And you know, we forget about the whole class of
medical professionals who had contracted the virus before there was
a vaccine about, because they were taking care of COVID patients.
And then you know, have natural immunity. You know what
it's like. For for fifty years doctors have basically talked
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about the benefits of natural immunity, and in twelve months
we basically have thrown it completely out the or. I
think this is a case of the Court giveth and
the Court now take it away. And it's unfortunate to
see the Chief basically played politics with this and why
Kavanov joined him because again, if you look at prior
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opinions by both the Chief and Kavanov, even when he
was on the DC Circuit, he was someone who believed
in limiting the ability of the administrative state and the agencies.
This was the Court's chance to strike a very fatal
blow in doing just that and bringing the federal government
back in line with the Constitution. And what they did,
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they split the baby on us. And it's unfortunate, and
I agree it's going to have some impact. Quick Break
will come back more with the Honorable Robert Hennekey, General
Counsel he's the guy that argued this whole case. And
Attorney General of Louisiana Jeff Landry. He was in the
Supreme Court for all the oral arguments on the vaccine
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mandate decision that came down Cay. We continue with Robert Hennikey,
General Council, Executive director of Texas Public Policy Foundation, Attorney
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General of Louisiana Jeff Landry. Both played a big role
in yesterday's Supreme Court decision on vaccine mandates. Let me
ask you both this question, because there are cities like
New York or states like New York that are not
going to adhere to the Supreme Court ruling. General Electric
instantly dropped the requirements earlier today, which I was glad
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to see. So what does that mean for people that
live in cities where they don't care about the Supreme
Court ruling and they're making up their own rules. What well,
if you don't mind, I'll go first, and it's here's
something that is important to remember. And Sean, I'm sure
your listeners and many may not like what I'm about
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to say, but I think I speak the truth as
it relates to the law. In these pandemics, and in
these situations, the governmental structure is supposed to be inverted, right,
and so basically states and locals share the greatest amount
of power, why because they governed closest to the people.
And so the state of New York imposes mandates a
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vaccine mandate, they may or may not be able to
do that based upon the state constitution, in their state statutes.
With this case did with the Supreme Court said basically
said that OSHA and at least when it comes to
this federal agency is not able to apply that. That's
why I think. So you think that people in these
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states might be able to challenge based on the Supreme
Court ruling. Is that a fairer assumption? I don't. I
don't think this ruling. I think it's like apples and oranges.
I think if if a state basically enacts some sort
of vaccine mandate, their challenges have to be done in
regards to what those specific the constitution of those states
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allow them to do in these particular situations. Last thirty seconds,
Robert Haneke will give them to you. What about states?
So that's where I think the Supreme Court decision yesterday
miss is the forest for the trees, because I do
believe that the United States Constitution protects individuals from being
compelled by government to undertake a medical procedure that they
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don't want to do. And that's if it was compelled
by government, or if federal government, state government, or local government.
But because the Supreme Court refuses to take on those
bigger constitutional questions and only decided yesterday on a limited
textual reading of the statute, we don't have further clarity.
So that's going to remain unresolved, and unfortunately it's going
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to leave states like New York or Made able to
continue forward with their policies. Well, I gotta both of you,
please take a bow. I don't think yesterday would have
happened without people like you. And there were others as well,
too many to mention that challenge this. I said it
on the day that Biden gave his mandate speech, that
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this is not going to fly. I'm glad I turned
out to be right. We appreciate it. Honorable Robert Hennicky,
thank you. Attorney General of Louisiana, Jeff Landry, thank you
appreciate you joining us quick break right back, holding them accountable.
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Sean gets the answers. No one else does. America deserves
and know the truth about Congress I twenty five to
the top of the hour, Linda, how many times did
I say that that laws weren't followed in the twenty
twenty election. For example, many of these states in question,
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they have a law that says partisan observers get to
watch the vote count from start to finish. That doesn't
mean twenty one hundred or a thousand feet away. You
can't see anything at that distance. And anyway, it right
and the constitution. If the Pennsylvania wanted to change their constitution,
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which puts great limits on mail in balloting, they would
have gone through the process rightly to change the constitution.
That's more difficult than what they did do. They tried
to do it legislatively. That's unconstitutional, all hannity, You lost
in court. No, we didn't lose in court. The judges
wouldn't take it up. That's the point. In Wisconsin you
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had that three to four decision. Wow, it was power,
what a powerful descent by the chief justice of those
constant state court. But anyway, judge now has ruled in
that state that the absentee ballot drop box is widely
deployed in Wisconsin in twenty twenty, we're not allowed under
state law. What have I been saying? We need integrity measures,
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the opposite of what Democrats want there? For whatever reason,
why do you think they don't want voter ID signature verification,
chain of custody control so that nobody can tamper with
mail in ballots. And lastly, I'd say, now with New
York City and Vermont and other places allowing illegal immigrants
to vote in some elections, it's insane anyway. Yeah, in
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New York is no exception to that. I mean, New
York is one of these places where we now have
almost a million illegal immigrants that are now going to
be allowed to vote. And the problem is that if
you're an illegal immigrant, you don't have a Social Security number,
you're not paying into the system, but you get to
dictate the way that the system works. It's, to say
the very least upsetting. And it's happening all over the countree.
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I mean the people on these border states Arizona and Texas, California.
I mean, they are so that completely their systems are
completely overrun. The schools, the hospitals, the doctors, and you
know we as Americans, you know, give us you're tired,
your poor. You know, we want to take care of immigrants,
just do it the right way. And there's no way
to do it the right way when our borders are
completely overrun. And now we're finding out that we had
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this reallocation of funds that could have gone to health
and human services, but instead it went to yes. Right.
Did you see these story in the Washington Examiner about
the federal judge shooting down Democratic lawyer discredited dossier guy
Mark Elias to you know, wiggle out of sanctions for
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misleading the court. Remember, here's the Perkins Cooey lawyer best
known for his quote funding, according to the Washington Examiner
of Christopher Steele's dirty disinformation dossier that actually Hillary Clinton
paid for. But remember they funneled the money through that
law firm, and anyway, they reprimand. He was punished by
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a three judge panel US Circuit Court of Appeals Fifth
Circuit in March. The reprimand came for his deceptive behavior
in a battle against a Republican back Texas law banning
straight ticket voting. An attorney for Elias called them unprecedented.
There's somebody to keep an eye on. And anyway, this
is you know, I keep hearing about these videotapes that
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might exist as well, but we'll see over time. One
really really dangerous situation that has emerged in the country
is on the issue of law and ordered. I know
most people and rightly so, you don't care about New York,
New York City. If you're smart, I would tell people
just stay away, don't bother waste in your time. Yeah,
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we have this situation. They had a homeless guy. Literally,
you have, a good samaritan walks up to a homeless
guy laying in the street, looks like next to a subway.
Did you see this video? I have it? Okay, eight,
So the good samaritan takes off his winter coat it's
cold in New York, puts it, lays it gently on
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top of this guy. The guy, a homeless guy, you know,
literally jumps up and mugs him and steals his wallet.
Prosecutors asked that they got to be held on forty
five thousand dollars Bell on second degree robbery charges, and
you know, eventually they got he got remanded on twenty
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five thousand dollar Bell. But You've got this this new
DA in New York City that is allowing all these
crimes to pretty much go unpunished. You can't even make
this stuff up. No, I mean, now, what is it?
I think it's murder. And if you I'm like, okay,
so we still care about murder. Okay? Good. And if
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you rob somebody and you cause them a lot of
physical harm, if you cause them some physical harm, but
there's their place of residence or businesses still stand and
they can still live and conduct their work, then they
let them go. I'm like, uh huh. And I'll tell
you shoan as somebody who has given money to the
homeless or given a sandwich. A lot of times I
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try to give food because I feel like if if
you give money, sometimes they can use it for drugs.
And I had a guy throw the sandwich in my face.
It's like, I don't know want you're stupid sandwich? Give
me money or get away from me? Great? You know
I always before i'll give money, and I do, and
I used to not, but you know what, I'm like, Okay,
i'll you're gonna use it for drugs? Then I determine
whether or not I think they're sober or not. I
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determine whether or not I think they're going to use
it for drugs or alcohol, and if they are, I
make the decision right there on the spot. I'm not
going to contribute to their demise. I'm not going to
do it last night. And before we hit the phones,
Hunter Biden's ex wife Kathleen will release a memoir and
a book is going to break this summer if we break.
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It's a memoir of marriage, addiction and healing. She's going
to discuss that heavy toll of Hunter's drug addiction and
what happened in their relationship and talk about the affair
that he had with his dead brother Bo's wife. Oh
my gosh, this is the family. Such a disasters. Disgusting,
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it really, and I mean I usually it's just gross.
You know, the pictures on the laptop. I mean, most
people haven't seen what we've seen, you know, just it
just printed in the Daily Mail. They they've printed the
most pictures of anybody, and the New York Post has
done a great job. All right, let's get to our
busy phones. Let's say hi to Scott Is in the
great state of Pennsylvania. Scott, how are you glad you called.
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Thanks for being with us. How do you feel about
doctor Roles, who I happen to be supporting in Pennsylvania.
Have you been following it a little bit? You know,
I'll take a look at, you know, some of the things.
There's a lot of people that are running right now
to go for too May's positions, so you know, it's
it's a pretty it's getting to be a very crowded field.
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So we'll have to see how how things begin to
shake out there. Yeah, oh, I'm sure. Listen, there are
a lot of good people that are running. I just happened.
When I know somebody personally and I know what their
real positions are, then I tell you what I know.
And I wasn't wrong about Trump. I don't know if
you remember when I supported him pretty early, I got
the crap beat out of me by my fellow conservatives
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because they said, you're supporting a liberal. I'm like, no,
I'm not, And they'd say, how do you know. I said,
because I know the person for twenty five years, I'm
telling you he's not a liberal. And he ended up,
you know, governing just the way I told people he would.
But you know, so be it the people that beat
me up then became super Trump fans. They could have said,
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you know what, you're right, Hannity, but I don't think
that's in them to do that. Scott anyway, what's on
your mind? Well, so, I mean it really relates to
Congress in general, and I guess my question is when
is enough enough? And what I mean by that is,
you know, most people would agree that you know that
true power and most of the corruption that you see
lies with Congress. You know, the government through Martha Stewart
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in jail for insider trading that today most people in
Congress blatantly do and even worse and nothing ever happens,
nothing happens to them. So, you know, Congress has really
stopped representing the people. That needs to needs to change.
And at least my thinking is that at a start,
at a minimum, they need to have some term limits
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and their pay should be based on the meaning of
the people that they supposedly represent. You know, my question
is when is enough enough? And how do we make
those changes? Because well, the way Minority Leader McCarthy has
been very straightforward, and he's taken some heat from some
quarters on this, and that is that if you have.
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If you're a member of Congress, you can't be investing
in stocks that you have any Basically, you really shouldn't
be investing in any of them. You know, I actually
employ this rule on my own anyway, Linda, how many
times I have people offered me, you know, we'd like
to make you a partner and and and you know
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you could you could work with us in other words,
they want to use my name? How many times do
I say no? I mean, it's just constant. There's always
somebody with an idea or a tip or something. I've
ever said, yes, let's go the other way? Have I
ever said I don't do it? And the products that
I do advertise on the show are products that I
believe in and people that I know and things that
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I personally like, and we go through a whole vetting
process for that. You know. It's it's interesting money. Money
changes people. I'm just I will tell you that, you know,
And I've been poor in my life and I now
have some money in my life, and I'm just money.
You've got to be careful. It's people's motivation when it
comes to money. Sometimes it just shocks me. Well people
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will do when it comes to money. I personally, I
don't give a flying rip. You know, Um, I have
a big house for safety and security. Okay, so yeah,
there you go. And I use my money usually to
make my work easier, butch and and give as much
away as I possibly can and be responsible so that
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I can take care of my family as well. But
short of that, Linda, do I dress like a slab?
Or No? Now you dress a lot better. Now we
know what. I've been with you a long time. We've
we've moved on up. Okay, because you guys convinced me
to change my jeans and my shoes. What else do
I wear? A baseball or Fireman T shirts, new PDT shirts,
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baseball caps, sweatpant daughter's team that, you know, stuff like that.
That's what I wear. And that one hour a day
people see me is not the real me. They make
me wear that stupid suit jacket and yet and half
the time I either have jeans or sweatpants on. But anyway,
I've never wanted money to be the driving force of
my life, and I see them for many people it is.
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I was happy. I think back now and I wonder
how the heck did I not understand how I was
what dire straits I was in, you know, living paycheck
to paycheck, but it never I never dawned on me
that I really didn't have any money. Num. But you know,
I go back, I look at old Stone bank receipts
when I lived in Rhode Island with my total account
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value was two hundred dollars. But you know, Sean, there's
something to be said for that, right. So it's like,
you know, you look at everyday people, like, look at
all of these people all over the country right now,
and they need you know, healthcare, they need assistance, they
need whatever they need, and they're going paycheck to paycheck
and the things they value the most are their families,
their time with their families and the ability to keep
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a roof of their head and gas in the car
and food on the table for their kids. And it's
the Biden, you know, Bear Shelf's Biden that's making that
harder than ever. And then you top that with bringing
in tons of illegal immigriments that now are going to
get free healthcare and free edgy, and starting with states
at California, what like, I'm like, why aren't we taking
care of people in this country that need it too.
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I think you got to do it. First. We don't
have enough money for the world. We just don't know,
we don't, and we're burdening our kids and grandkids with
insurmountable debt. And I think about that too, and it's
actually very well said, very well, and their answer is
pretty much full confiscation of wealth. I mean they're actually proposing,
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you know, you pay taxes your whole life, and then
if you invest it and you get lucky and you
make a little more money than you pay taxes, again
they get another bite at the apple. This is chapter
four of Live Free or Die, by the way, this
is socialism. Well exactly, now they want it. If you
save money after they've had their multiple bites at the apple,
then when you die, you can't direct the money to
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the people that you love in your life, because that's
just not fair. You're giving them an advantage. Well then
why am I working my ass off? Now? I don't
work for money. I work because I'm passionate about what
I do. And and these two elections coming up are
are going to be the tipping point for this country.
So yeah, but in all fairness to you, you do
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what a lot of people don't, which is that you
share your money, you know, And that's that's being straight
up and honest. I mean I have been out with
you on numerous occasions, you know, where the team goes out,
we're on remote. You meet somebody and You're like, I'll
get you a computer, and I'm like what I mean,
it's it's like, you know, this is the this is
the uh, We've we've got a college plan for you.
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Where do you want to go? How can I help you? Oh,
this table can't afford their dinner to night? Will pay
for that table? You know, just pay for all those
tables over there. They got a lot of kids. What
is happening? I mean, I've seen you do it time
and time, like talking about me, but I know. But
I mean, you even bought dinner for CNN in Finland.
I mean that was a big moment for you. I
didn't buy them din them. I think I just bought
them drinks. I don't know what you bought them. Whatever
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it was, it was too much, it was And then
everybody else was eating with that moose. Oh everybody wanted
by the way, raw moose. Oh my, oh gosh, disgusting. Anyway,
eight hundred and nine four one. Sean is our number.
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Is that right? And if we could certainly propose legislation
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our two Sean Hannity Show. Thanks for being with us
eight hundred and nine for one Sean. If you want
to be a part of the program. I like what
doctor Mark Siegel said. Operations Snail Speed versus Warp Speed
and how embarrassing that the White House had to correct
Kamala Harris's claim that, oh, we're sending out five hundred
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million tests next week. No you're not. No, they weren't
prepared for Christmas. It is unforgivable that they ran out
of test They ran out of therapeutics, monoclonal antibodies, anti viral,
they ran out of everything, and all of this was
handed to them. You can't even make up how bad
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it is. Even the tests now are on back order
with no sense of urgency, and Joe is out there
scolding Americans for not wearing masks. These masks that they're
talking about that I'm finding. I'm finding people that wear
masks that are still testing positive. So anyway, they announced
the plan. Finally, what is today's date, the fourteenth of January.
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We knew Amicron was coming in early October. They were
offered seven hundred and thirty two million tests a month,
and they turned it down. That's not my reporting, that's
vanity fairs reporting. It's you can't even make it up.
It's it's so bad. Biden says, if you're unvaccinated, you're
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seventeen times more likely to get hospitalized. Nobody trust these
people anymore. Nobody, and why should they. Now, there was
a CDC study that came out. We already knew amicron
was more contagious and less lethal than the delta variant.
The CDC study is saying the omicron variant is ninety
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one percent less fatal than delta. I just don't believe.
I cannot, in good conscience take that on face value
and believe it. It might be true. But unless I
hear from somebody other than the NIH, other than Fauci,
other than the CDC. You know what, they're ever ever changing.
You know, the bar moves every day with them. We
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have one Republican Senator, Roger Marshall. He's from Kansas. We've
had him on the program. He's introducing the Fauci Act
after the doctor called him a moron. Good. I like that.
I like the Fauci Act. Less than one third of
voters trust Anthony Fauci. Only sixteen percent trust Biden and
trust their own doctor. You know, Fauci says we're not
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going to eradicate the virus. Now we've got thousands of
schools going to remote learning again anyway, So they had
a big blow as part of their awful week. Let
me play Clarence Thomas and Sam Alito in their arguments
when during oral arguments, when they made some comments, it's
very revealing on the issue of whether you're trying to
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squeeze an elephant into a mousehole and the question of
whether this is fundamentally different from anything that OSHA has
ever done before. I want to see if it might
be fundamentally different in at least two respects and get
your answer to the question. Most OSHA regulations, all of
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the ones with which I'm familiar, affect employees when they
are on the job, but not when they are not
on the job. And this affects employees all the time.
If you're vaccinated while you're on the job, you're vaccinated
when you're not on the job. Isn't this different from
anything OSHA has done before in that respect? Your argument? Also,
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would your argument be the same for any infectious disease
that is taken into the workplace? No. I think that
with respect to other infectious diseases, it would be necessary
for OSHA to develop the record to demonstrate that the
requisite risk level that the requires it sat. It's not
that you would do it, but could you do it
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if there were in fact a grave danger to employees
posed by another infectious disease, then yes, we think that
Congress clearly contemplated that OSHA is obligated and charged with
the response. Has OSHA ever done that? OSHA has an
activity number of standards that express those kinds of threats.
For example, the blood borne pathogen standard that we have
pointed to before was intended to protect employees from the
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risk of viruses that they can contract through bloodborne transmission.
Is that in the general workplace or just in healthcare?
That standard applied anywhere where employees can predictably encounter bloodborne pathogen.
So it wasn't just the healthcare context. It can apply
to flight attendants, it can apply to janitors. It was
a standard that directly targeted the exposure reever it exists,
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just like this one does. All right, all part of
a disastrous week. We've got to tip our hat too.
Attorneys general all around the country and many other groups.
We had j Seculo and Jordan Seculo on yesterday from
the ACLJ, the American Center for Law Injustice. They had
represented the Heritage Foundation in this case. We've we've talked
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to so much I can't even name all the attorney
attorneys Generals Bernovich out in Arizona joining us now as
Attorney general from Louisiana. Jeff Landry, he was at the
Supreme Court during oral arguments, and the honorable Robert Hennekey,
General Council executive director at the Texas Public Policy Foundation
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and the lead counsel for the plaintiffs in both cases.
And he represents five Texas staffing agencies that sued OSHA
over the mandate and obtained a first in the nations
stay in the Fifth Circuit. Gentlemen, take a bow. You
both did a great job. Thank you for your hard work.
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Robert will start with you your take on the ruling
and what this means because Joe Biden is now out
there saying that state should ignore the high courts ruling. Well,
that's a lawless pronouncement. And Sean, it's such a privilege
to be with you. Also, glad to be joining my
friend Jeff Landry in celebrating yesterday's milestone victory which not
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just stop the private backs mandate from the Biden administration,
but let's reflect that this was going to impact over
eighty million Americans who are going to be subject to
this unlawful vaccine mandate that the bidenstration has invested nearly
a quarter of its administration so far in terms of
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promoting and seeking to enforce. So a milestone victory yesterday
in a coalition effort. I mean, with credit to the
state attorneys general across the nation and all the private
parties that came together to fight this with one voice.
Yesterday was the right outcome, but in some ways still
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leaves the insistence by the Biden administration that they have
the power to do this, albeit in a different way,
unresolved and part of the war to be fought and
continue to be fought against this kind of tyranny. Yeah,
and what's your take, Attorney General Landry Well, First of all,
you know, Sean, thank you for giving me some time.
I definitely want to thank the Texas Policy Institute and
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the Pelican Institute here in Louisiana. I think one of
the things that really stood out in Ocean case were
the number of actual plaintiffs, the number of businesses that
went out there and actually joined attorneys generals from around
the country in opposing this particular mandate. I think that
I don't know that Americans understand how close we came
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to basically an unbridled federal government that could reach into
our lives at any moment. I mean, if both of
these mandates had been upheld by this court, the question
is is there a limitation to the federal government's reach.
I mean, because what these mandates do is they mandate
a medical procedure on a person by coercing them with
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their livelihood. Right. So in other words, if you say no,
they say, okay, well we'll just take your job away.
I mean, think about the breath of that in the
United States of America under our constitution. Well, I look
at this in the sixth three ruling. Let me ask
both of you about part two of this ruling as
it relates to hospital workers and facility. Is that received
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Medicare Medicaid money. What's your take on that? Robert Hennikey,
the Medicare healthcare worker decision is going to be a disaster,
and I disagree with it. And here the Chief Justice
Roberts and Justice Kavanaugh flipping sides to join with the
liberals was the wrong outcome. I'm really fearful of what
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this is going to By the way Kavanaugh is getting
torched for doing it. I mean, hey, they are furious appropriately,
So I mean, which Brett Kavanaugh are we talking about
here when two cases are decided in opposite ways. But
if you look at the percentage of healthcare workers who
are the front and center at this, let's say they're
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the most educated people that are out there about what
COVID looks like. If these individuals who have been caring
for America for two years have chosen that they do
not want to take the vaccine, they have every right
to do so. But if you eliminate the ten or
fifteen or twenty percent of the healthcare work horse that
is currently not vaccinated here the next couple of weeks,
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it's not just going to be disruptive to nursing homes
and hospitals and assistant living facilities. It's going to be
dangerous and potentially life threatening when we have staffing shortages,
especially at the time that you have high rates of
illness because of the winter months. So the Supreme Court
got it wrong, and I think that we're going to
see here in short order the dangerous effects of that outcome. Yeah,
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your take, Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry, I agree as well.
And you know, we forget about the whole class of
medical professionals who had contracted the virus before there was
a vaccine about, because they were taking care of COVID patients.
And then you know, have natural immunity. You know what
it's like. For for fifty years doctors have basically talked
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about the benefits of natural immunity, and in twelve months
we basically have thrown it completely out the or. I
think this is a case of the Court giveth and
the Court now take it away. And it's unfortunate to
see the Chief basically played politics with this and why
Kavanov joined him because again, if you look at prior
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opinions by both the Chief and Kavanov, even when he
was on the DC Circuit, he was someone who believed
in limiting the ability of the administrative state and the agencies.
This was the Court's chance to strike a very fatal
blow in doing just that and bringing the federal government
back in line with the Constitution. And what they did,
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they split the baby on us. And it's unfortunate, and
I agree it's going to have some impact. Quick Break
will come back more with the Honorable Robert Hennekey, General
Counsel he's the guy that argued this whole case. And
Attorney General of Louisiana Jeff Landry. He was in the
Supreme Court for all the oral arguments on the vaccine
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mandate decision that came down Cay. We continue with Robert Hennikey,
General Council, Executive director of Texas Public Policy Foundation, Attorney
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General of Louisiana Jeff Landry. Both played a big role
in yesterday's Supreme Court decision on vaccine mandates. Let me
ask you both this question, because there are cities like
New York or states like New York that are not
going to adhere to the Supreme Court ruling. General Electric
instantly dropped the requirements earlier today, which I was glad
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to see. So what does that mean for people that
live in cities where they don't care about the Supreme
Court ruling and they're making up their own rules. What well,
if you don't mind, I'll go first, and it's here's
something that is important to remember. And Sean, I'm sure
your listeners and many may not like what I'm about
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to say, but I think I speak the truth as
it relates to the law. In these pandemics, and in
these situations, the governmental structure is supposed to be inverted, right,
and so basically states and locals share the greatest amount
of power, why because they governed closest to the people.
And so the state of New York imposes mandates a
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vaccine mandate, they may or may not be able to
do that based upon the state constitution, in their state statutes.
With this case did with the Supreme Court said basically
said that OSHA and at least when it comes to
this federal agency is not able to apply that. That's
why I think. So you think that people in these
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states might be able to challenge based on the Supreme
Court ruling. Is that a fairer assumption? I don't. I
don't think this ruling. I think it's like apples and oranges.
I think if if a state basically enacts some sort
of vaccine mandate, their challenges have to be done in
regards to what those specific the constitution of those states
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allow them to do in these particular situations. Last thirty seconds,
Robert Haneke will give them to you. What about states?
So that's where I think the Supreme Court decision yesterday
miss is the forest for the trees, because I do
believe that the United States Constitution protects individuals from being
compelled by government to undertake a medical procedure that they
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don't want to do. And that's if it was compelled
by government, or if federal government, state government, or local government.
But because the Supreme Court refuses to take on those
bigger constitutional questions and only decided yesterday on a limited
textual reading of the statute, we don't have further clarity.
So that's going to remain unresolved, and unfortunately it's going
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to leave states like New York or Made able to
continue forward with their policies. Well, I gotta both of you,
please take a bow. I don't think yesterday would have
happened without people like you. And there were others as well,
too many to mention that challenge this. I said it
on the day that Biden gave his mandate speech, that
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this is not going to fly. I'm glad I turned
out to be right. We appreciate it. Honorable Robert Hennicky,
thank you. Attorney General of Louisiana, Jeff Landry, thank you
appreciate you joining us quick break right back, holding them accountable.
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Sean gets the answers. No one else does. America deserves
and know the truth about Congress I twenty five to
the top of the hour, Linda, how many times did
I say that that laws weren't followed in the twenty
twenty election. For example, many of these states in question,
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they have a law that says partisan observers get to
watch the vote count from start to finish. That doesn't
mean twenty one hundred or a thousand feet away. You
can't see anything at that distance. And anyway, it right
and the constitution. If the Pennsylvania wanted to change their constitution,
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which puts great limits on mail in balloting, they would
have gone through the process rightly to change the constitution.
That's more difficult than what they did do. They tried
to do it legislatively. That's unconstitutional, all hannity, You lost
in court. No, we didn't lose in court. The judges
wouldn't take it up. That's the point. In Wisconsin you
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had that three to four decision. Wow, it was power,
what a powerful descent by the chief justice of those
constant state court. But anyway, judge now has ruled in
that state that the absentee ballot drop box is widely
deployed in Wisconsin in twenty twenty, we're not allowed under
state law. What have I been saying? We need integrity measures,
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the opposite of what Democrats want there? For whatever reason,
why do you think they don't want voter ID signature verification,
chain of custody control so that nobody can tamper with
mail in ballots. And lastly, I'd say, now with New
York City and Vermont and other places allowing illegal immigrants
to vote in some elections, it's insane anyway. Yeah, in
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New York is no exception to that. I mean, New
York is one of these places where we now have
almost a million illegal immigrants that are now going to
be allowed to vote. And the problem is that if
you're an illegal immigrant, you don't have a Social Security number,
you're not paying into the system, but you get to
dictate the way that the system works. It's, to say
the very least upsetting. And it's happening all over the countree.
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I mean the people on these border states Arizona and Texas, California.
I mean, they are so that completely their systems are
completely overrun. The schools, the hospitals, the doctors, and you
know we as Americans, you know, give us you're tired,
your poor. You know, we want to take care of immigrants,
just do it the right way. And there's no way
to do it the right way when our borders are
completely overrun. And now we're finding out that we had
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this reallocation of funds that could have gone to health
and human services, but instead it went to yes. Right.
Did you see these story in the Washington Examiner about
the federal judge shooting down Democratic lawyer discredited dossier guy
Mark Elias to you know, wiggle out of sanctions for
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misleading the court. Remember, here's the Perkins Cooey lawyer best
known for his quote funding, according to the Washington Examiner
of Christopher Steele's dirty disinformation dossier that actually Hillary Clinton
paid for. But remember they funneled the money through that
law firm, and anyway, they reprimand. He was punished by
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a three judge panel US Circuit Court of Appeals Fifth
Circuit in March. The reprimand came for his deceptive behavior
in a battle against a Republican back Texas law banning
straight ticket voting. An attorney for Elias called them unprecedented.
There's somebody to keep an eye on. And anyway, this
is you know, I keep hearing about these videotapes that
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might exist as well, but we'll see over time. One
really really dangerous situation that has emerged in the country
is on the issue of law and ordered. I know
most people and rightly so, you don't care about New York,
New York City. If you're smart, I would tell people
just stay away, don't bother waste in your time. Yeah,
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we have this situation. They had a homeless guy. Literally,
you have, a good samaritan walks up to a homeless
guy laying in the street, looks like next to a subway.
Did you see this video? I have it? Okay, eight,
So the good samaritan takes off his winter coat it's
cold in New York, puts it, lays it gently on
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top of this guy. The guy, a homeless guy, you know,
literally jumps up and mugs him and steals his wallet.
Prosecutors asked that they got to be held on forty
five thousand dollars Bell on second degree robbery charges, and
you know, eventually they got he got remanded on twenty
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five thousand dollar Bell. But You've got this this new
DA in New York City that is allowing all these
crimes to pretty much go unpunished. You can't even make
this stuff up. No, I mean, now, what is it?
I think it's murder. And if you I'm like, okay,
so we still care about murder. Okay? Good. And if
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you rob somebody and you cause them a lot of
physical harm, if you cause them some physical harm, but
there's their place of residence or businesses still stand and
they can still live and conduct their work, then they
let them go. I'm like, uh huh. And I'll tell
you shoan as somebody who has given money to the
homeless or given a sandwich. A lot of times I
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try to give food because I feel like if if
you give money, sometimes they can use it for drugs.
And I had a guy throw the sandwich in my face.
It's like, I don't know want you're stupid sandwich? Give
me money or get away from me? Great? You know
I always before i'll give money, and I do, and
I used to not, but you know what, I'm like, Okay,
i'll you're gonna use it for drugs? Then I determine
whether or not I think they're sober or not. I
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determine whether or not I think they're going to use
it for drugs or alcohol, and if they are, I
make the decision right there on the spot. I'm not
going to contribute to their demise. I'm not going to
do it last night. And before we hit the phones,
Hunter Biden's ex wife Kathleen will release a memoir and
a book is going to break this summer if we break.
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It's a memoir of marriage, addiction and healing. She's going
to discuss that heavy toll of Hunter's drug addiction and
what happened in their relationship and talk about the affair
that he had with his dead brother Bo's wife. Oh
my gosh, this is the family. Such a disasters. Disgusting,
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it really, and I mean I usually it's just gross.
You know, the pictures on the laptop. I mean, most
people haven't seen what we've seen, you know, just it
just printed in the Daily Mail. They they've printed the
most pictures of anybody, and the New York Post has
done a great job. All right, let's get to our
busy phones. Let's say hi to Scott Is in the
great state of Pennsylvania. Scott, how are you glad you called.
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Thanks for being with us. How do you feel about
doctor Roles, who I happen to be supporting in Pennsylvania.
Have you been following it a little bit? You know,
I'll take a look at, you know, some of the things.
There's a lot of people that are running right now
to go for too May's positions, so you know, it's
it's a pretty it's getting to be a very crowded field.
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So we'll have to see how how things begin to
shake out there. Yeah, oh, I'm sure. Listen, there are
a lot of good people that are running. I just happened.
When I know somebody personally and I know what their
real positions are, then I tell you what I know.
And I wasn't wrong about Trump. I don't know if
you remember when I supported him pretty early, I got
the crap beat out of me by my fellow conservatives
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because they said, you're supporting a liberal. I'm like, no,
I'm not, And they'd say, how do you know. I said,
because I know the person for twenty five years, I'm
telling you he's not a liberal. And he ended up,
you know, governing just the way I told people he would.
But you know, so be it the people that beat
me up then became super Trump fans. They could have said,
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you know what, you're right, Hannity, but I don't think
that's in them to do that. Scott anyway, what's on
your mind? Well, so, I mean it really relates to
Congress in general, and I guess my question is when
is enough enough? And what I mean by that is,
you know, most people would agree that you know that
true power and most of the corruption that you see
lies with Congress. You know, the government through Martha Stewart
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in jail for insider trading that today most people in
Congress blatantly do and even worse and nothing ever happens,
nothing happens to them. So, you know, Congress has really
stopped representing the people. That needs to needs to change.
And at least my thinking is that at a start,
at a minimum, they need to have some term limits
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and their pay should be based on the meaning of
the people that they supposedly represent. You know, my question
is when is enough enough? And how do we make
those changes? Because well, the way Minority Leader McCarthy has
been very straightforward, and he's taken some heat from some
quarters on this, and that is that if you have.
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If you're a member of Congress, you can't be investing
in stocks that you have any Basically, you really shouldn't
be investing in any of them. You know, I actually
employ this rule on my own anyway, Linda, how many
times I have people offered me, you know, we'd like
to make you a partner and and and you know
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you could you could work with us in other words,
they want to use my name? How many times do
I say no? I mean, it's just constant. There's always
somebody with an idea or a tip or something. I've
ever said, yes, let's go the other way? Have I
ever said I don't do it? And the products that
I do advertise on the show are products that I
believe in and people that I know and things that
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I personally like, and we go through a whole vetting
process for that. You know. It's it's interesting money. Money
changes people. I'm just I will tell you that, you know,
And I've been poor in my life and I now
have some money in my life, and I'm just money.
You've got to be careful. It's people's motivation when it
comes to money. Sometimes it just shocks me. Well people
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will do when it comes to money. I personally, I
don't give a flying rip. You know, Um, I have
a big house for safety and security. Okay, so yeah,
there you go. And I use my money usually to
make my work easier, butch and and give as much
away as I possibly can and be responsible so that
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I can take care of my family as well. But
short of that, Linda, do I dress like a slab?
Or No? Now you dress a lot better. Now we
know what. I've been with you a long time. We've
we've moved on up. Okay, because you guys convinced me
to change my jeans and my shoes. What else do
I wear? A baseball or Fireman T shirts, new PDT shirts,
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baseball caps, sweatpant daughter's team that, you know, stuff like that.
That's what I wear. And that one hour a day
people see me is not the real me. They make
me wear that stupid suit jacket and yet and half
the time I either have jeans or sweatpants on. But anyway,
I've never wanted money to be the driving force of
my life, and I see them for many people it is.
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I was happy. I think back now and I wonder
how the heck did I not understand how I was
what dire straits I was in, you know, living paycheck
to paycheck, but it never I never dawned on me
that I really didn't have any money. Num. But you know,
I go back, I look at old Stone bank receipts
when I lived in Rhode Island with my total account
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value was two hundred dollars. But you know, Sean, there's
something to be said for that, right. So it's like,
you know, you look at everyday people, like, look at
all of these people all over the country right now,
and they need you know, healthcare, they need assistance, they
need whatever they need, and they're going paycheck to paycheck
and the things they value the most are their families,
their time with their families and the ability to keep
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a roof of their head and gas in the car
and food on the table for their kids. And it's
the Biden, you know, Bear Shelf's Biden that's making that
harder than ever. And then you top that with bringing
in tons of illegal immigriments that now are going to
get free healthcare and free edgy, and starting with states
at California, what like, I'm like, why aren't we taking
care of people in this country that need it too.
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I think you got to do it. First. We don't
have enough money for the world. We just don't know,
we don't, and we're burdening our kids and grandkids with
insurmountable debt. And I think about that too, and it's
actually very well said, very well, and their answer is
pretty much full confiscation of wealth. I mean they're actually proposing,
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you know, you pay taxes your whole life, and then
if you invest it and you get lucky and you
make a little more money than you pay taxes, again
they get another bite at the apple. This is chapter
four of Live Free or Die, by the way, this
is socialism. Well exactly, now they want it. If you
save money after they've had their multiple bites at the apple,
then when you die, you can't direct the money to
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the people that you love in your life, because that's
just not fair. You're giving them an advantage. Well then
why am I working my ass off? Now? I don't
work for money. I work because I'm passionate about what
I do. And and these two elections coming up are
are going to be the tipping point for this country.
So yeah, but in all fairness to you, you do
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what a lot of people don't, which is that you
share your money, you know, And that's that's being straight
up and honest. I mean I have been out with
you on numerous occasions, you know, where the team goes out,
we're on remote. You meet somebody and You're like, I'll
get you a computer, and I'm like what I mean,
it's it's like, you know, this is the this is
the uh, We've we've got a college plan for you.
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Where do you want to go? How can I help you? Oh,
this table can't afford their dinner to night? Will pay
for that table? You know, just pay for all those
tables over there. They got a lot of kids. What
is happening? I mean, I've seen you do it time
and time, like talking about me, but I know. But
I mean, you even bought dinner for CNN in Finland.
I mean that was a big moment for you. I
didn't buy them din them. I think I just bought
them drinks. I don't know what you bought them. Whatever
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it was, it was too much, it was And then
everybody else was eating with that moose. Oh everybody wanted
by the way, raw moose. Oh my, oh gosh, disgusting. Anyway,
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