November 29, 2023 • 30 mins
Bill O'Reilly joins Sean to discuss the truly growing out-of-control border situation and how nothing is being done! It's so bad that Jimmy Carter's presidency is starting to look brilliant!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, let it get it, simple man. That only
means one thing on this radio program. All things self
proclaimed simple man, all things Bill O'Reilly, All things O'Reilly
a Bill Oreilly dot com. Mister O'Reilly, sir, how is
your Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I don't remember. I'm old and I forget things quickly.
But I'm right now, by.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
The way, Joe Biden Junior, here go ahead.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
You know I'm not I can still get up and
down the stairs, but you know I can't remember stuff.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
What is your take? A simple man take. Look, you've
had a lot of big interviews in your life. You've
done in Barack Obama. I've did one Super Bowl interview.
I think you've done like three of them with presidents,
big moments, big debates. I'd love to hear your input
because I read the same article and I have all
of those numbers, and honestly, all I really am going
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to do is throw out the topics and then I'm
kind of out of it.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Bill. I'm just the moderator here.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Well, though, you're going to have to basic applies some
discipline to the wanderings, because Newsom, he's a smart guy,
and he's slick, and he's glib. DeSantis is a smart guy.
He is not glib. So Newsom goes in with an
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advantage of verbal advantage there. And what Newsom is going
to try to do is petty fog. Where to the day,
petti fog? So every stat you throw at him and
and DeSantis throws at him because you got to feel
that the Santa's got the same stuff. All right, He's
going to deflect real fast, uh newshim away from that
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into abortion and uh compassion and all of this stuff.
That's what he's going to do. And if you let
him filibuster, you know, three minutes on abortion, then you
kind of I don't know, well, we do.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
We do have time limits, although I told both sides
I'm going to let it breathe to a reasonable point.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Does that that makes sense to you?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
In other words, you have your green light, your yellow light,
your red light, meaning your times up. But if somebody's
finishing a thought and it takes ten more seconds, I'm
going to have a masterclock to try and monitor the
exact speaking time of both of them and try and
be as fair as possible. I think that final number
will matter the most in terms of being fundamentally fair.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But I do.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
There's only two of them. I want to let it breathe.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I don't want to be a hall monitor Bill and
constantly be saying your times up. When moderators do that,
I find it annoying as hell. I think you do too.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
But you're going to have to apply some discipline in
the sense that if it were me, and I'm not
telling you what to do, no, no.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I'm asking you what you would do. Go ahead, tell me,
go speak up.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I would point out to both of them. If I
ask a direct question, which I know you will, You're
not going to give you a cupcake interview. As we've discussed,
You're going to answer direct questions. If they don't answer,
you're gonna have to point out you didn't answer the
question and then pose it again. Now that when you
do this the follow up and you say, well, governor
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or governor, you didn't answer the question, I'll pose it again.
That embarrasses them. And you're going to have to do
that because we're living in an age of spin now.
And you know I coined that that.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
That is one hundred percent exactly my take going in
and I will do that to both people.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, I'm both and there's a lot to talk about.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
My problem now, Bill is as I've already prepared all
the questions, all of them. If you have an idea,
maybe that I didn't think of, I'm always open hearing
what you have to say.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
You can do how to get a hold of.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Me, sell you what I'll tell you what I would do,
and see if it matches up to what you have.
So in California, they basically have a day facto legalization
of every single migrant, all ten to fifteen million of
them that have come across the border. And the de
facto legalization is they're paying for their healthcare beginning in January.
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And that is so stunning, and I know Americans don't
know that. They don't know it. So this is the
first state in the Union that has done this. It
basically said, we're legalizing them and we don't care you
know what the federal border policies are, We're going to
do it. So that would be that has struck me
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as an American, not just a journalist. It's so outrageous
for one state to usurp federal law and federal power.
Now it's a little pin HITTI.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
But you can bring it it really, it really isn't pinheady.
And I'll tell you if there's one topic where I
really have to be concise and really really hope, it's
the issue of immigration, because there's so many different aspects
of it. And if you want to short, if you
want to ask a short question, which I do, then
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then there's going to be probably a series of follow
up because there's so many facets of immigration that we're
dealing with. If you're dealing with the cost, you're dealing
with the crime side, you're dealing with the legality side.
It's I mean, there's just you know, you're dealing with
the issue of law and order, following the laws of
the land. So there's so many facets of it. And
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again this is all part of the elimination process.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
We do have it.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
We do have a time policy. It's well, flip a coin,
who goes first, one minute to answer, thirty second rebuttal,
and then follow ups as necessary, And that's basically the
rules bill.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
It's kind of simple.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
In that time frame, you'll get a lot of questions
in But to me as an American again, not as
a journalist or a debate moderator or an interviewer. What
I'm concerned about in this country, and it mirrors your concern, okay,
is Number one is getting harder and harder and harder
for working people to make a living. When expenses have
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risen eighteen percent and for essentral items of life Underbiden,
you're in serious trouble. And it da've risen more in California, see.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
You, and I think exactly right. You used to always
say the folks, the folks, the folks, you know, but Bill,
that's what it's really all about. And a lot of
people don't understand this. There have been people questioning why
am I doing this? I'm like, do you not understand
that state policies, state regulations on immigration, on energy, on taxes,
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that that probably has a more direct impact on your life,
your everyday life, than what the federal government is doing.
Although they're forty percent top marginal tax rate is pretty
darn burdensome, and their regulations are pretty burdensome.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
But what the.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
States do has a dramatic impact on people's lives.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And I would also mention the newsome and I'll get
to DeSantis in a moment. To be fair, people in
California paying this much for a gallon of gas today,
right now, and people have wanted paying.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
This much that This is why I have said to
people that it basically is not going to be as
many surprises as you would think.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
And here's my thinking going into this. See if you agree.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I wanted to think of Sean Hannity circa my twenties,
when I was struggling to pay my rent and having
to pay my taxes and having to go to the
DMV and having to live life and struggling to pay
rent every every month.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Though, And I want how.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
The questions that matter the most to me are the
questions that impact the people's lives that we're discussing. Because
we're now at over sixty percent of Americans live in
paycheck to paycheck. Now that breaks my heart. I think
we could be so much better than that. I believe
the policies on the on the federal level, state level
have contributed a lot to this. And that's that's where
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my mind went as I was spending a lot of
time preparing for this debate.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
And that is if you throw up to newsome your
folks are paying this much right now for gas and
Florida they're paying this much. How can you justify that simple?
That question takes six seconds. Now let's go to DeSantis.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Now, by the way, I don't know if you know this,
but they're suing out in California, the oil companies because quote,
they had all this knowledge ahead of time that it
was a pollutant. This is going to cost these companies,
you know, probably millions of millions and hundreds of millions
of dollars to defend against.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I don't know if you have to get that specific,
though the point is dramatic of that. The big point
spread in a gallon of gas.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
So with well, let me ask that. So what wins out?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Is it going to be the substance of the debate
or the personality of the person?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Well, number one, you'll win if the debate is interesting,
if it's not the same old political rhetoric. Newsom is
much livelier than DeSantis. But I don't what I if
I'm sitting up there with DeSantis, I don't understand him.
I really don't understand him because he has not articulated
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what he's gonna do. By the way, Henny, and this
is a good tip from me to you, He's gonna
try to co opt you, so you and him are
some patico. Don't let him do that and that because
then news and goes, oh see, I told you're gonna
be does one.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
So you got you know, but he's gonna he's gonna
say that anyway. Bill, they've been I have an over
under that he's gonna say it a thousand times.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
After the debate.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You're gonna get four million people to watch this debate
and the folks are going to see what happens, and
then it's gonna go viral and then ten million morals
see it. But the DeSantis I would like to know, okay,
how he arrived at his abortion point of view?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Now fifteen to six weeks?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yes, are you coming from it from a religious point
of view? Governor? Are you coming at it from experience?
How are you coming at I don't understand it. I
want to understand it. Okay. Then the second thing on
DeSantis is why in your state is Donald Trump more
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popular than you? Now that is a provocative question, Hanny,
I don't you know that? That's tough. And so with
the Santas, you've got to make them a little uncomfortable
to see what he's got. Let's see what he's got
because his campaign is not taken on any momentum because
people they don't know who he is.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
You know, you see, I think actually people do know
who he is. Here's my take on the primary. And
tell me if you disagree that Donald Trump has a
base that is fiercely loyal to him, and there was
there was nobody in this cycle that was going to
have any chance of breaking up that base in my view.
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And look, Rohn de Santis is he just turned forty
five years old, he's a young man. He's he'll have
plenty of opportunities to run for president. A lot of
people running and and don't win the first or second time,
and then they come back in the winner, so that
he has plenty of time to be governor and if
in the future he wants to run again. If he
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doesn't win this time, I think they're putting a lot
of their eggs in the Iowa caucus basket, and they've
gotten they certainly have gotten big endorsements there. But I
think if Iowa doesn't go well and New Hampshire doesn't
go well, I think it's at that point, you know,
this this may be over quick more quickly than people think.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Well, Haley's got more momentum than the Santis now and
you can see that in a real clear politics poll average,
and you can see it with the money flowing into Haley.
But I'm not sure that that does any good on
a national level. This debate is important, and it is
and kudos to you for setting it up. By the way,
I don't know any other person in the country, and
(12:01):
I'm not kissing you butt Hanny. You know I slapped
you around all the time verbally, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Oh, I'm nothing but nice to him, right to Linda
am I always nice to Bill alrighty, And this is
the crap I have to put up with from him.
I mean, I go on his show and he's just
threatening me, you know, in the months leading up to
the interview to Hannity not gonna be a cupcake interview, Like, Okay,
what you want to rip my my lungs out, go
ahead to have fun at it.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I can fight back.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
And it was fun.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
It was I'm not going to deny it. Everything with
you is fun.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I don't know anybody in the country could have put
this on the air. I couldn't have done it. I
couldn't have gotten Newsome in Disantas together. I know I
couldn't have.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So you did something I couldn't do, and that was
get Obama to sit down with you.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
He'd never sit down with me.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Three times I got him to sit down because we had,
you know, some common interest in the Brother's Keeper and
a few of the other social programs that I felt
that were very important. But kudos to you because this
illuminates the culture war more than anything in America. You
have two states now, huge states that are one hundred
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and eighty degrees apart, same country. Who's got the stronger argument? Now,
you and I know that Florida does, because that's what
we believe. We believe in traditional America. We believe in
a meritocracy. We believe in hard work. Newsom in his
California acolytes do not. They believe in a strong Sacramento government, talent,
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everybody what to do in every aspect of their life.
That's what they believe. But look who's work. Florida is
working a lot better than California. Just the exodus out
of California. And that's the good question of warn I too.
I mean, you got millions of people live in California.
It's the most beautiful state in the country with the
weather and everything. What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Bill, Let's just say you've hit There's not a single
thing you've mentioned that I haven't thought of yet. However,
I do appreciate your insight, and I'm actually asking the audience.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I want to know what they want to hear too.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
And people have been calling in today and we're gonna
put them on the air and hear what they have
to say. We got to roll though, mister O'Reilly All
things Bill O'Reilly at billoreilly dot com. So I hope
you'll be watching tomorrow and next week you can come
back on and maybe I'll let you give me a
grade if it's not awful.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
No, I certainly always fun to talk with you, Sean,
Thanks for having me, all.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Right, Bill O'Reilly dot com for all things O'Reilly quick
break right back all right, twenty five now to the
top of the hour. Thank you for being with us,
your calls, your comments coming up next. I see a
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busy telephones here? Randy's in California? Randy, how are you
glad you called?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Sir?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
How you doing, Sean?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I'm good? What's going on?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (16:08):
I live in northern California. I got a small little farm,
you know, less than ten acres. Most of the farmers
here are twenty to ten acres. Gavin's killing us. Gavin's
killing our people around the farmers, all around the area
I'm at in northern California. You know, last year, our
mandarin orangers were selling for about a dollar a pound.
This year, just to keep alive, we're selling for about
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two dollars a pounds, almost one hundred percent increase. And
what it's really killing us is is this gas. I
listened to you and him on the TV and he
was talking about we only charged eighty five cents on
sales tax for gas. Well that's not true. He didn't
talk about the fees we're charging the thirty five cents
per gallon in fees for greenhouse e missions, low carbon fuels,
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and also underground storage tank. So that really pick us
up to a dollar twenty dollars a dollar twenty per
gallon for sales tax and also for fees on every
gallon of gas we buy.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Let me ask you this, do you sell fewer mandarins
because because of the higher cost that you now are
charging people.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I got to make some money. I got to make
some money to pay, so we have to charge more.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
And but I mean, in other words, are people buying
less as a result our seasons?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
It's not like I'm seeing that. Yeah, they're they're buying less.
They're buying less. And you know, our market has now
gone to or opening up our farms and sell them
to the public that way just to keep.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
The cost down.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Wow, So you sell it directly to the customer.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Instead of send them directly to the customer, because if
we send them to the stores, you know, their markup
and they're not buying as much, so most of that stuff's.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Coming to eat.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
You're kind of making my point because some people will say, well, Hannity,
why are you doing this and why are you elevating
Gavin Newsom and and et cetera. I'm like, well, first
of all, Joe Biden may not be on the ticket
come November a year from now, and you better be
aware of who a potential replacement could be. And he
would certainly be on the top of the list or
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right up there on the top of the list with
Kamala Harris, I think, and maybe the Michigan governor, you know,
Whitmer would be there, maybe somebody I'm not thinking about now.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
That's number one.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
But number two the impact of state laws, state regulation,
state taxation, and you know all that the impact it
has on the citizens of states oftentimes is more onerous
on citizens than what the federal government does. That's why
I think red blue state state, all this stuff matters,
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And you know, is it one of the reasons why
there has been a pretty much a mass exit US
out of California because it's a beautiful state.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I lived there five.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Years, beautiful state. You know, the restrictions like you're talking
about in twenty twenty four, we can no longer buy
any lawnmowers or riding or push blowers or even chainsaws.
And that's kind of my thing, Chainsaws. I mean, I
got to theas and everything else. You know, in twenty
twenty eight, no more generators. We can't purchase the generator
in California. And in two thousand and thirty gas appliances
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in two thousand and thirty five, all gas or diesel tractors.
How's a farmer or how's a rancher supposed to operate?
If they can't buy equipment, They're going to get rid
of all the farmers and all the ranchers out of California.
Because in two thousand and thirty five, everything's that to
be better. Now you could tell me how's the battery
going to operate on on on tractors?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Look, I don't see it happening. And I mentioned this earlier,
and I think this is going to have a big
impact on the country. Is we now see it? You know,
once the governor and the great state of where is
it Connecticut, you know, is pulling back from these these
electric cars and vehicles and these mandates that they're having.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Look, let's put it this way.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Three thousand car dealers are telling Joe Biden as planned
to force you the public to buy electric vehicles as
a loser. Yeah, the Democratic governor of Connecticut let Ned
Lamont with drawing his plan to mandate future electric vehicle
purchases after the proposal received a bipartisan pushback. Literally, now
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we're being lectured by the U LAN on on on
how we should reduce our meat consumption. Nobody wants to
hear that, and we're demonizing, you know, the producers of
I think one of the best sources of protein you
could ever have, which is meat. I eat very keto
friendly in paleo, so that's my diet. So I mean,
but that again, we're dealing with states regulating and the
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federal government does it too, to the point where it's
hurting the people of these states and people in this country. Anyway,
I got a roll and to get some other folks
in here. Glad you called, my friend. I wish you
the best of luck with your with your farming. Where
can people get your mandarins in person?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Well, we're in northern California, and so we're in town,
a small little town in Loomis and also Penrin and Alburn, California.
It's all three, all those films we can give them all.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Right, my friend, Thank you eight hundred and ninety four
one Seawn our number. If you want to be a
part of the program. Let's say hi to George and Florida,
the Free State of Florida. What's going on, George?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Saw?
Speaker 6 (21:16):
I have nice to have talk to my friend.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Hey.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
I wanted to say that with abortion, I know that's
a hot, hot item right now. Justice Scalia said what
to do about abortion shouldn't be up to nine rogue judges.
It should be it should go to state legislators and
be discussed on the people's representatives. And big Abortion right
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now has circumsvented that democratic process like they did in
Ohio by putting these things on these citizens initiatives where
out of state billionaires can come in and spend like
four to one on the big abortion side.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
So I know you're.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
There having a debate tomorrow night. I would love for
you to ask UH Governor Newsom and also UH Governor
Santas my governor. He's my Churchillian governor. I believe he's
he's a he's a very he gives the people hope,
UH for our state. But ask them do they believe
that what to do abortion should go to the state
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legislatures where they can discuss things about UH parental this,
parental rights, minors, and and all these things that are
are basically could be hashed out, and any type of
UH that are things that are aren't that could be
fraud or anything else to be talked with their legislatures,
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and and this chiseled out there instead of these these
these these UH citizens' initiatives where the most whoever has
the most bucks win Because Bloomberg and Soros they spends
six point five million dollars in their money, and what
we have on the pro life side, our organizations like
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that that buyases that by ultrasounds, and the Knights of Columbus,
they spend their money and trying to counter this attack
by big abortion. So I think that's a great well.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I think the money is a part of it.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
But now that Dobbs has sent abortion back to the States,
it's a state decision, and regardless of outside money that
might be spent, if if a politician is going against
the will of their constituents on this important issue, I
think there'll be massive political consequences for them.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I think it's that big an issue.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I actually believe it's the reason Republicans did not get
the red wave that they were going to get in
twenty twenty two or were expected to get. But anyway,
good Idea, appreciate it. Thanks for the input. Texas Chris
Sean Hannity Show, Hey, Chris, listen.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
Since the California governor decided to have communist company come
over to the House of California San Francisco, how much
was the Short Notice Cleanup Bill proven that it could
be done and chose not to until forced to do it.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
It's certainly a fair question, isn't it. I Mean, if
you look at why didn't they do it ahead of time?
Why aren't they doing it everywhere? I think that's a
legitimate question. I mean, the homeless issue, especially in California,
is so out of control that I mean, the one
thing it proved is you certainly can fix it if
you want to fix it. And you know, okay, what
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was it like before? What was it like after? And
what do you what are you supposed to do with
this massive homeless population. Look, it was a problem when
when I lived I lived for it was like the
poorest person ever that lives in Santa Barbara. I had
a you know, a tiny apartment, and you know, I'd
often go down to the beach and the beach was
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packed with homeless people. They had this huge pig tree
that they used to congregate under, and they were massive
of people back then. And it's only gotten dramatically worse
since then. And yeah, I think there's got to be
you know, laws. And frankly, we're all the billionaires in
the liberal billionaires in California. Why aren't they building facilities
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so they can shower, maybe get some counseling for addictions
or mental health issues. I don't see that happening out there.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
It makes more sense to clean a house at least
once a week than wait till the end of the
year to clean up the house.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I think I tend to agree with you.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Anyway, Good call, Chris, appreciate it all right, quick break
right back to our phones. Eight hundred and ninety four
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Speaker 1 (26:09):
Back to California, we go, Josh Su're on the Sean
Hennedy Show.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Hey, Sean, living in California. I'll tell you what I'm
concerned with. I think that Devin Newsome knows that he
could easily get votes just for being a younger and
better looking and more lucid Democrat than Joe Biden. I
think he's a dangerous candidate. I'm always reminded with this
open border that most of America does not live in
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a border state and does not have illegal immigration in
their face every single day like we do out here.
We've had millions. As soon as they send thousands up
to New York, it becomes a crisis. So I think
Devin Newsome knows that most of the country is pretty
clueless about what an open border means. And he is
a guy who wrote stimulus checks for illegals based on
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our tax dollars. Okay, he has all these green fantasies
that the other color mentioned. He honestly believes that the
homeless crisis is single women who work out there on
the streets with their children, which is insane. It's mental
patients and drug addicts who want to live in open
air drug supermarkets, and we need Republicans to stand up
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and say what it is.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Well, well, let me ask you a question. If you're
that unhappy with California, why don't you leave?
Speaker 5 (27:23):
You know, don't worry, I'll be leaving. And at the
moment I have someone of my family who works in
civil service needs to get to the finish line on
her pension. But no, I will leave. But the thing is,
I think that he really believes that if he goes
up against Trump, enough of the center of the country
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will not want a rerun against Trump, he can smooth
his way in as a younger, more lucid Democrat. I
think Newsome is up against a far greater challenge against
DeSantis or Haley or any of those. I don't think
he fears Trump.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Do you believe him when he has said to me
repeatedly that he is not running in twenty twenty four
and even going as far as to say that Kamala
Harris would be next in line, not him.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
No, wrong, that's all pr He will absolutely seize this opportunity.
And again, most of America, they only hear about how
bad it is in border states, and how bad these
woke fantasies have turned out for California.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
But well, let me ask you this, then, then am
I correct in telling people that you better pay attention
to this guy and you better understand him, because I
would guess he probably has presidential ambitions.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
This is a very slippery snake. And I absolutely applaud you.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Well, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta be with him
for two hours, for an hour and a half tomorrow, easy,
you know, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta be I
gotta host this debate.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
But that's your opinion.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Look, I've actually find I found him personally to be
very likable personally, and he's really good at that, you know,
I would say spinning or but I also think foundationally,
which and there are phony people, and I don't think
he's phony about any of this. I think he believes
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everything that he says. I think this is his driving
political ideology. Do you doubt that?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (29:21):
No, absolutely, And also remember he is he is counting
on the fact that most of America does not really
know the impact of what he's done here in California,
and a lot of America still believes that there is
a Democratic Party. They don't understand that it has become
a far left, far left show, and his woke nonsense
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has ruined this state. But he knows most of America
doesn't live in this state, doesn't see the open border
in their face every single day.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
All right, appreciate the call. When do you get out
of there? How long is how many need more years
to get the pension?
Speaker 5 (29:59):
I got about an eighteen month clock kicking right now.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Be careful because there was a proposal out there at
one point. I think that if you left and you
were no longer a resident, that they would want the
right to tax your income for ten more years. I'm like,
you're not even living there and they want state income tax. Anyway,
Appreciate you being with US eight hundred and ninety four
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Speaker 3 (30:20):
You want to be a part of the program.
All right, let it get it, simple man. That only
means one thing on this radio program. All things self
proclaimed simple man, all things Bill O'Reilly, All things O'Reilly
a Bill Oreilly dot com. Mister O'Reilly, sir, how is
your Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I don't remember. I'm old and I forget things quickly.
But I'm right now, by.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
The way, Joe Biden Junior, here go ahead.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
You know I'm not I can still get up and
down the stairs, but you know I can't remember stuff.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
What is your take? A simple man take. Look, you've
had a lot of big interviews in your life. You've
done in Barack Obama. I've did one Super Bowl interview.
I think you've done like three of them with presidents,
big moments, big debates. I'd love to hear your input
because I read the same article and I have all
of those numbers, and honestly, all I really am going
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to do is throw out the topics and then I'm
kind of out of it.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Bill. I'm just the moderator here.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Well, though, you're going to have to basic applies some
discipline to the wanderings, because Newsom, he's a smart guy,
and he's slick, and he's glib. DeSantis is a smart guy.
He is not glib. So Newsom goes in with an
(01:17):
advantage of verbal advantage there. And what Newsom is going
to try to do is petty fog. Where to the day,
petti fog? So every stat you throw at him and
and DeSantis throws at him because you got to feel
that the Santa's got the same stuff. All right, He's
going to deflect real fast, uh newshim away from that
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into abortion and uh compassion and all of this stuff.
That's what he's going to do. And if you let
him filibuster, you know, three minutes on abortion, then you
kind of I don't know, well, we do.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
We do have time limits, although I told both sides
I'm going to let it breathe to a reasonable point.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Does that that makes sense to you?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
In other words, you have your green light, your yellow light,
your red light, meaning your times up. But if somebody's
finishing a thought and it takes ten more seconds, I'm
going to have a masterclock to try and monitor the
exact speaking time of both of them and try and
be as fair as possible. I think that final number
will matter the most in terms of being fundamentally fair.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But I do.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
There's only two of them. I want to let it breathe.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I don't want to be a hall monitor Bill and
constantly be saying your times up. When moderators do that,
I find it annoying as hell. I think you do too.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
But you're going to have to apply some discipline in
the sense that if it were me, and I'm not
telling you what to do, no, no.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I'm asking you what you would do. Go ahead, tell me,
go speak up.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I would point out to both of them. If I
ask a direct question, which I know you will, You're
not going to give you a cupcake interview. As we've discussed,
You're going to answer direct questions. If they don't answer,
you're gonna have to point out you didn't answer the
question and then pose it again. Now that when you
do this the follow up and you say, well, governor
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or governor, you didn't answer the question, I'll pose it again.
That embarrasses them. And you're going to have to do
that because we're living in an age of spin now.
And you know I coined that that.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
That is one hundred percent exactly my take going in
and I will do that to both people.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, I'm both and there's a lot to talk about.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
My problem now, Bill is as I've already prepared all
the questions, all of them. If you have an idea,
maybe that I didn't think of, I'm always open hearing
what you have to say.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
You can do how to get a hold of.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Me, sell you what I'll tell you what I would do,
and see if it matches up to what you have.
So in California, they basically have a day facto legalization
of every single migrant, all ten to fifteen million of
them that have come across the border. And the de
facto legalization is they're paying for their healthcare beginning in January.
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And that is so stunning, and I know Americans don't
know that. They don't know it. So this is the
first state in the Union that has done this. It
basically said, we're legalizing them and we don't care you
know what the federal border policies are, We're going to
do it. So that would be that has struck me
(04:25):
as an American, not just a journalist. It's so outrageous
for one state to usurp federal law and federal power.
Now it's a little pin HITTI.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
But you can bring it it really, it really isn't pinheady.
And I'll tell you if there's one topic where I
really have to be concise and really really hope, it's
the issue of immigration, because there's so many different aspects
of it. And if you want to short, if you
want to ask a short question, which I do, then
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then there's going to be probably a series of follow
up because there's so many facets of immigration that we're
dealing with. If you're dealing with the cost, you're dealing
with the crime side, you're dealing with the legality side.
It's I mean, there's just you know, you're dealing with
the issue of law and order, following the laws of
the land. So there's so many facets of it. And
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again this is all part of the elimination process.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
We do have it.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
We do have a time policy. It's well, flip a coin,
who goes first, one minute to answer, thirty second rebuttal,
and then follow ups as necessary, And that's basically the
rules bill.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
It's kind of simple.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
In that time frame, you'll get a lot of questions
in But to me as an American again, not as
a journalist or a debate moderator or an interviewer. What
I'm concerned about in this country, and it mirrors your concern, okay,
is Number one is getting harder and harder and harder
for working people to make a living. When expenses have
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risen eighteen percent and for essentral items of life Underbiden,
you're in serious trouble. And it da've risen more in California, see.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
You, and I think exactly right. You used to always
say the folks, the folks, the folks, you know, but Bill,
that's what it's really all about. And a lot of
people don't understand this. There have been people questioning why
am I doing this? I'm like, do you not understand
that state policies, state regulations on immigration, on energy, on taxes,
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that that probably has a more direct impact on your life,
your everyday life, than what the federal government is doing.
Although they're forty percent top marginal tax rate is pretty
darn burdensome, and their regulations are pretty burdensome.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
But what the.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
States do has a dramatic impact on people's lives.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And I would also mention the newsome and I'll get
to DeSantis in a moment. To be fair, people in
California paying this much for a gallon of gas today,
right now, and people have wanted paying.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
This much that This is why I have said to
people that it basically is not going to be as
many surprises as you would think.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
And here's my thinking going into this. See if you agree.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I wanted to think of Sean Hannity circa my twenties,
when I was struggling to pay my rent and having
to pay my taxes and having to go to the
DMV and having to live life and struggling to pay
rent every every month.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Though, And I want how.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
The questions that matter the most to me are the
questions that impact the people's lives that we're discussing. Because
we're now at over sixty percent of Americans live in
paycheck to paycheck. Now that breaks my heart. I think
we could be so much better than that. I believe
the policies on the on the federal level, state level
have contributed a lot to this. And that's that's where
(07:56):
my mind went as I was spending a lot of
time preparing for this debate.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
And that is if you throw up to newsome your
folks are paying this much right now for gas and
Florida they're paying this much. How can you justify that simple?
That question takes six seconds. Now let's go to DeSantis.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Now, by the way, I don't know if you know this,
but they're suing out in California, the oil companies because quote,
they had all this knowledge ahead of time that it
was a pollutant. This is going to cost these companies,
you know, probably millions of millions and hundreds of millions
of dollars to defend against.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I don't know if you have to get that specific,
though the point is dramatic of that. The big point
spread in a gallon of gas.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
So with well, let me ask that. So what wins out?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Is it going to be the substance of the debate
or the personality of the person?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Well, number one, you'll win if the debate is interesting,
if it's not the same old political rhetoric. Newsom is
much livelier than DeSantis. But I don't what I if
I'm sitting up there with DeSantis, I don't understand him.
I really don't understand him because he has not articulated
(09:13):
what he's gonna do. By the way, Henny, and this
is a good tip from me to you, He's gonna
try to co opt you, so you and him are
some patico. Don't let him do that and that because
then news and goes, oh see, I told you're gonna
be does one.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
So you got you know, but he's gonna he's gonna
say that anyway. Bill, they've been I have an over
under that he's gonna say it a thousand times.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
After the debate.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You're gonna get four million people to watch this debate
and the folks are going to see what happens, and
then it's gonna go viral and then ten million morals
see it. But the DeSantis I would like to know, okay,
how he arrived at his abortion point of view?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Now fifteen to six weeks?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yes, are you coming from it from a religious point
of view? Governor? Are you coming at it from experience?
How are you coming at I don't understand it. I
want to understand it. Okay. Then the second thing on
DeSantis is why in your state is Donald Trump more
(10:19):
popular than you? Now that is a provocative question, Hanny,
I don't you know that? That's tough. And so with
the Santas, you've got to make them a little uncomfortable
to see what he's got. Let's see what he's got
because his campaign is not taken on any momentum because
people they don't know who he is.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
You know, you see, I think actually people do know
who he is. Here's my take on the primary. And
tell me if you disagree that Donald Trump has a
base that is fiercely loyal to him, and there was
there was nobody in this cycle that was going to
have any chance of breaking up that base in my view.
(11:01):
And look, Rohn de Santis is he just turned forty
five years old, he's a young man. He's he'll have
plenty of opportunities to run for president. A lot of
people running and and don't win the first or second time,
and then they come back in the winner, so that
he has plenty of time to be governor and if
in the future he wants to run again. If he
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doesn't win this time, I think they're putting a lot
of their eggs in the Iowa caucus basket, and they've
gotten they certainly have gotten big endorsements there. But I
think if Iowa doesn't go well and New Hampshire doesn't
go well, I think it's at that point, you know,
this this may be over quick more quickly than people think.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Well, Haley's got more momentum than the Santis now and
you can see that in a real clear politics poll average,
and you can see it with the money flowing into Haley.
But I'm not sure that that does any good on
a national level. This debate is important, and it is
and kudos to you for setting it up. By the way,
I don't know any other person in the country, and
(12:01):
I'm not kissing you butt Hanny. You know I slapped
you around all the time verbally, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Oh, I'm nothing but nice to him, right to Linda
am I always nice to Bill alrighty, And this is
the crap I have to put up with from him.
I mean, I go on his show and he's just
threatening me, you know, in the months leading up to
the interview to Hannity not gonna be a cupcake interview, Like, Okay,
what you want to rip my my lungs out, go
ahead to have fun at it.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I can fight back.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
And it was fun.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
It was I'm not going to deny it. Everything with
you is fun.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I don't know anybody in the country could have put
this on the air. I couldn't have done it. I
couldn't have gotten Newsome in Disantas together. I know I
couldn't have.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So you did something I couldn't do, and that was
get Obama to sit down with you.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
He'd never sit down with me.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Three times I got him to sit down because we had,
you know, some common interest in the Brother's Keeper and
a few of the other social programs that I felt
that were very important. But kudos to you because this
illuminates the culture war more than anything in America. You
have two states now, huge states that are one hundred
(13:12):
and eighty degrees apart, same country. Who's got the stronger argument? Now,
you and I know that Florida does, because that's what
we believe. We believe in traditional America. We believe in
a meritocracy. We believe in hard work. Newsom in his
California acolytes do not. They believe in a strong Sacramento government, talent,
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everybody what to do in every aspect of their life.
That's what they believe. But look who's work. Florida is
working a lot better than California. Just the exodus out
of California. And that's the good question of warn I too.
I mean, you got millions of people live in California.
It's the most beautiful state in the country with the
weather and everything. What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Bill, Let's just say you've hit There's not a single
thing you've mentioned that I haven't thought of yet. However,
I do appreciate your insight, and I'm actually asking the audience.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I want to know what they want to hear too.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
And people have been calling in today and we're gonna
put them on the air and hear what they have
to say. We got to roll though, mister O'Reilly All
things Bill O'Reilly at billoreilly dot com. So I hope
you'll be watching tomorrow and next week you can come
back on and maybe I'll let you give me a
grade if it's not awful.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
No, I certainly always fun to talk with you, Sean,
Thanks for having me, all.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Right, Bill O'Reilly dot com for all things O'Reilly quick
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busy telephones here? Randy's in California? Randy, how are you
glad you called?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Sir?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
How you doing, Sean?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I'm good? What's going on?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (16:08):
I live in northern California. I got a small little farm,
you know, less than ten acres. Most of the farmers
here are twenty to ten acres. Gavin's killing us. Gavin's
killing our people around the farmers, all around the area
I'm at in northern California. You know, last year, our
mandarin orangers were selling for about a dollar a pound.
This year, just to keep alive, we're selling for about
(16:28):
two dollars a pounds, almost one hundred percent increase. And
what it's really killing us is is this gas. I
listened to you and him on the TV and he
was talking about we only charged eighty five cents on
sales tax for gas. Well that's not true. He didn't
talk about the fees we're charging the thirty five cents
per gallon in fees for greenhouse e missions, low carbon fuels,
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and also underground storage tank. So that really pick us
up to a dollar twenty dollars a dollar twenty per
gallon for sales tax and also for fees on every
gallon of gas we buy.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Let me ask you this, do you sell fewer mandarins
because because of the higher cost that you now are
charging people.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I got to make some money. I got to make
some money to pay, so we have to charge more.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
And but I mean, in other words, are people buying
less as a result our seasons?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
It's not like I'm seeing that. Yeah, they're they're buying less.
They're buying less. And you know, our market has now
gone to or opening up our farms and sell them
to the public that way just to keep.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
The cost down.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Wow, So you sell it directly to the customer.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Instead of send them directly to the customer, because if
we send them to the stores, you know, their markup
and they're not buying as much, so most of that stuff's.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Coming to eat.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
You're kind of making my point because some people will say, well, Hannity,
why are you doing this and why are you elevating
Gavin Newsom and and et cetera. I'm like, well, first
of all, Joe Biden may not be on the ticket
come November a year from now, and you better be
aware of who a potential replacement could be. And he
would certainly be on the top of the list or
(18:06):
right up there on the top of the list with
Kamala Harris, I think, and maybe the Michigan governor, you know,
Whitmer would be there, maybe somebody I'm not thinking about now.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
That's number one.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
But number two the impact of state laws, state regulation,
state taxation, and you know all that the impact it
has on the citizens of states oftentimes is more onerous
on citizens than what the federal government does. That's why
I think red blue state state, all this stuff matters,
(18:38):
And you know, is it one of the reasons why
there has been a pretty much a mass exit US
out of California because it's a beautiful state.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I lived there five.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Years, beautiful state. You know, the restrictions like you're talking
about in twenty twenty four, we can no longer buy
any lawnmowers or riding or push blowers or even chainsaws.
And that's kind of my thing, Chainsaws. I mean, I
got to theas and everything else. You know, in twenty
twenty eight, no more generators. We can't purchase the generator
in California. And in two thousand and thirty gas appliances
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in two thousand and thirty five, all gas or diesel tractors.
How's a farmer or how's a rancher supposed to operate?
If they can't buy equipment, They're going to get rid
of all the farmers and all the ranchers out of California.
Because in two thousand and thirty five, everything's that to
be better. Now you could tell me how's the battery
going to operate on on on tractors?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Look, I don't see it happening. And I mentioned this earlier,
and I think this is going to have a big
impact on the country. Is we now see it? You know,
once the governor and the great state of where is
it Connecticut, you know, is pulling back from these these
electric cars and vehicles and these mandates that they're having.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Look, let's put it this way.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Three thousand car dealers are telling Joe Biden as planned
to force you the public to buy electric vehicles as
a loser. Yeah, the Democratic governor of Connecticut let Ned
Lamont with drawing his plan to mandate future electric vehicle
purchases after the proposal received a bipartisan pushback. Literally, now
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we're being lectured by the U LAN on on on
how we should reduce our meat consumption. Nobody wants to
hear that, and we're demonizing, you know, the producers of
I think one of the best sources of protein you
could ever have, which is meat. I eat very keto
friendly in paleo, so that's my diet. So I mean,
but that again, we're dealing with states regulating and the
(20:36):
federal government does it too, to the point where it's
hurting the people of these states and people in this country. Anyway,
I got a roll and to get some other folks
in here. Glad you called, my friend. I wish you
the best of luck with your with your farming. Where
can people get your mandarins in person?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Well, we're in northern California, and so we're in town,
a small little town in Loomis and also Penrin and Alburn, California.
It's all three, all those films we can give them all.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Right, my friend, Thank you eight hundred and ninety four
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part of the program. Let's say hi to George and Florida,
the Free State of Florida. What's going on, George?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Saw?
Speaker 6 (21:16):
I have nice to have talk to my friend.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Hey.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
I wanted to say that with abortion, I know that's
a hot, hot item right now. Justice Scalia said what
to do about abortion shouldn't be up to nine rogue judges.
It should be it should go to state legislators and
be discussed on the people's representatives. And big Abortion right
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now has circumsvented that democratic process like they did in
Ohio by putting these things on these citizens initiatives where
out of state billionaires can come in and spend like
four to one on the big abortion side.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
So I know you're.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
There having a debate tomorrow night. I would love for
you to ask UH Governor Newsom and also UH Governor
Santas my governor. He's my Churchillian governor. I believe he's
he's a he's a very he gives the people hope,
UH for our state. But ask them do they believe
that what to do abortion should go to the state
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legislatures where they can discuss things about UH parental this,
parental rights, minors, and and all these things that are
are basically could be hashed out, and any type of
UH that are things that are aren't that could be
fraud or anything else to be talked with their legislatures,
(22:44):
and and this chiseled out there instead of these these
these these UH citizens' initiatives where the most whoever has
the most bucks win Because Bloomberg and Soros they spends
six point five million dollars in their money, and what
we have on the pro life side, our organizations like
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that that buyases that by ultrasounds, and the Knights of Columbus,
they spend their money and trying to counter this attack
by big abortion. So I think that's a great well.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I think the money is a part of it.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
But now that Dobbs has sent abortion back to the States,
it's a state decision, and regardless of outside money that
might be spent, if if a politician is going against
the will of their constituents on this important issue, I
think there'll be massive political consequences for them.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I think it's that big an issue.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I actually believe it's the reason Republicans did not get
the red wave that they were going to get in
twenty twenty two or were expected to get. But anyway,
good Idea, appreciate it. Thanks for the input. Texas Chris
Sean Hannity Show, Hey, Chris, listen.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
Since the California governor decided to have communist company come
over to the House of California San Francisco, how much
was the Short Notice Cleanup Bill proven that it could
be done and chose not to until forced to do it.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
It's certainly a fair question, isn't it. I Mean, if
you look at why didn't they do it ahead of time?
Why aren't they doing it everywhere? I think that's a
legitimate question. I mean, the homeless issue, especially in California,
is so out of control that I mean, the one
thing it proved is you certainly can fix it if
you want to fix it. And you know, okay, what
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was it like before? What was it like after? And
what do you what are you supposed to do with
this massive homeless population. Look, it was a problem when
when I lived I lived for it was like the
poorest person ever that lives in Santa Barbara. I had
a you know, a tiny apartment, and you know, I'd
often go down to the beach and the beach was
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packed with homeless people. They had this huge pig tree
that they used to congregate under, and they were massive
of people back then. And it's only gotten dramatically worse
since then. And yeah, I think there's got to be
you know, laws. And frankly, we're all the billionaires in
the liberal billionaires in California. Why aren't they building facilities
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so they can shower, maybe get some counseling for addictions
or mental health issues. I don't see that happening out there.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
It makes more sense to clean a house at least
once a week than wait till the end of the
year to clean up the house.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I think I tend to agree with you.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Anyway, Good call, Chris, appreciate it all right, quick break
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Speaker 3 (25:50):
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As we continue.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
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Speaker 3 (26:03):
Hours busy phones.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Back to California, we go, Josh Su're on the Sean
Hennedy Show.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Hey, Sean, living in California. I'll tell you what I'm
concerned with. I think that Devin Newsome knows that he
could easily get votes just for being a younger and
better looking and more lucid Democrat than Joe Biden. I
think he's a dangerous candidate. I'm always reminded with this
open border that most of America does not live in
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a border state and does not have illegal immigration in
their face every single day like we do out here.
We've had millions. As soon as they send thousands up
to New York, it becomes a crisis. So I think
Devin Newsome knows that most of the country is pretty
clueless about what an open border means. And he is
a guy who wrote stimulus checks for illegals based on
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our tax dollars. Okay, he has all these green fantasies
that the other color mentioned. He honestly believes that the
homeless crisis is single women who work out there on
the streets with their children, which is insane. It's mental
patients and drug addicts who want to live in open
air drug supermarkets, and we need Republicans to stand up
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and say what it is.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Well, well, let me ask you a question. If you're
that unhappy with California, why don't you leave?
Speaker 5 (27:23):
You know, don't worry, I'll be leaving. And at the
moment I have someone of my family who works in
civil service needs to get to the finish line on
her pension. But no, I will leave. But the thing is,
I think that he really believes that if he goes
up against Trump, enough of the center of the country
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will not want a rerun against Trump, he can smooth
his way in as a younger, more lucid Democrat. I
think Newsome is up against a far greater challenge against
DeSantis or Haley or any of those. I don't think
he fears Trump.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Do you believe him when he has said to me
repeatedly that he is not running in twenty twenty four
and even going as far as to say that Kamala
Harris would be next in line, not him.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
No, wrong, that's all pr He will absolutely seize this opportunity.
And again, most of America, they only hear about how
bad it is in border states, and how bad these
woke fantasies have turned out for California.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
But well, let me ask you this, then, then am
I correct in telling people that you better pay attention
to this guy and you better understand him, because I
would guess he probably has presidential ambitions.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
This is a very slippery snake. And I absolutely applaud you.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Well, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta be with him
for two hours, for an hour and a half tomorrow, easy,
you know, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta be I
gotta host this debate.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
But that's your opinion.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Look, I've actually find I found him personally to be
very likable personally, and he's really good at that, you know,
I would say spinning or but I also think foundationally,
which and there are phony people, and I don't think
he's phony about any of this. I think he believes
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everything that he says. I think this is his driving
political ideology. Do you doubt that?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (29:21):
No, absolutely, And also remember he is he is counting
on the fact that most of America does not really
know the impact of what he's done here in California,
and a lot of America still believes that there is
a Democratic Party. They don't understand that it has become
a far left, far left show, and his woke nonsense
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has ruined this state. But he knows most of America
doesn't live in this state, doesn't see the open border
in their face every single day.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
All right, appreciate the call. When do you get out
of there? How long is how many need more years
to get the pension?
Speaker 5 (29:59):
I got about an eighteen month clock kicking right now.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Be careful because there was a proposal out there at
one point. I think that if you left and you
were no longer a resident, that they would want the
right to tax your income for ten more years. I'm like,
you're not even living there and they want state income tax. Anyway,
Appreciate you being with US eight hundred and ninety four
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