The Case Against Court Packing

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, thanks Scott chatting Happy Monday, Gladia with us
right down our toll free number. It's eight hundred and
nine for one sewn. You want to be a part
of the program. Closing arguments have begun in the Chauvin trial,
in the George Floyd case. And you know, the things
that I'm hearing, that we're watching, that we're witnessing so

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called leaders, it's it's beyond scary. I mean what we
literally now have. If you look at this year alone,
how's this defund the police effort worked out for everybody?
We have one hundred cops killed already this year, killed
by gunfire in the line of duty. Chicago had a

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record murder year last year. It's already up thirty three
percent from last year. This year. New York City's up
fifty eight percent from last year. Another and it went up,
it went up dramatically last year. Louisville's up eighty seven percent,
murder eight in Minneapolis of sixty four. Then you've got
Los Angeles up fifty one percent. You've got all of these.

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You know, we have the defund effort of the left,
which has now become the dismantle and abolish the police departments.
How's that going to work out? But people, you have
the top people in Congress, the ones that are setting
the Green New Deal, Joe Biden, A, Nancy Pelosi, Chucky

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Schumer agenda. They've gone from defund to now dismantle and abolish.
Oh and on top of that, nobel laws for anything,
no matter what the crime, You've got all of this
now happening. You've got you know what, Portland Police Union
building set of blaze. Last week, we had the ice

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building set of blaze with agents in the building. Last week, riots, vandalism, DC.
It was every city, every town, burned the precinct to
the ground. Now I assume that at some point this
week we're going to get a verdict in this Chauvin trial.

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I've already expressed my thoughts on nine minutes and twenty
nine seconds. I've been very outspoken about it. But at
the end of the day, I am glad that there
are options that the jury will have here. But even then,
people are demanding that they get the maximum, which would
be I guess second degree manslaughter in this case or

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a second degree murder rather excuse me, big distinction. There
was over the weekend an activists speaking in Washington, DC
at Black Lives Matter Plaza, asking how long before quote
people are really ready to get blood on their hands

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to make change happen. It's called to action. Came during
a jail killer cops rally. Voting is not going to
bring us this change. Apparently the person's name twenty one
year old Raheem b addressing the rally, We've been protesting
for a really long time. How much longer can we

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protest and march in the streets before we're ready, really
ready to get blood on their hands, Because one of
these days it's gonna have to come to that. Earlier
in his speech, he said he was ready to dedicate
my life to change. Bringing about the change is not
always going to be pretty. It's not always going to

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be peaceful. I don't condemn who loot, and I support
them for looting. I support people who take matters into
their own hands. You want you want to set something
on fire, go do it. I'm like, this is not
going to end well. In New York, where they cut
a billion dollars from the New York Police Department, a
traffic stop in Brooklyn turned violence Saturday morning. Driver pulled

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over for running a red light. What did the driver do?
It hurls on molotov cocktail at the police officer. Two
officers over about eight am after guy runs A red light.
Video posted by the NYPD hours later shows the bodycam
footage of the stop and the and the moment the

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accused driver tosses of this liquid onto one of the officers,
and then the video ends when the when police said,
this guy drives off. A second team of officers in
the area spotted the car short distance from the traffic stop,
pulled him over again, and police said that he stepped
out of his vehicle the second traffic stop and threw

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a lit molotov cocktail at the cop. Car bounced off,
the windshield, shattered in the street, and the guys hops
back into his car fled for a second time from police.
Moments later, he collided with an unoccupied parked SUV. Officers
finally catch up to the guy, removing him from the vehicle,

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took him into custody. Three other molotov cocktails were covered
from inside the driver's vehicle. By the way, we're now
gonna have background checks on molotov cocktails. We're gonna have
background checks like in the case of the Boston bombing
and the Ssarna Brothers. One officer at injuries as a
result of this, taken to a nearby hospital. This guy

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now could face federal weapons of mass destruction charges. I
hope he does. But that happened this weekend. You know.
I hope the police get but when are we gonna
have blood on our hands? Then we got Al Sharpton now,
you know, apparently you know is one time crisis director
is warning that people will be in the streets no

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matter which way the Floyd trial verdict goes. Great even
if the guy's found guilty, it was still taking to
the streets anyway. This guy served as Al Sharpton's crisis
director for five years prior to twenty nineteen. Predicting yesterday
that they will be angry street demonstrations when the Floyd

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trial ends, whatever way the verdict goes. Outside of the
Barclay Center in Brooklyn, New York, called upon police to
give protesters space as they marched through the streets when
the verdict happens. With Derek Chauvin, we will not allow
the police to stop us from peaceful protesting. I don't
have a problem with peaceful protesting. We're gonna be in

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the streets whatever way in which the verdict goes. Why
because we still have a problem with the police in
the city. Well, they cut a billion dollars, what's next? Anyway,
There's a picture on Twitter apparently Al Sharpton jumping into
a private jet so he could fly to stand with
the Floyd family. According to his Twitter account, closing arguments

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are being made. We now have The UK Daily Mail
has a report how Minneapolis was transformed now into a fortress.
Over the weekend, more than three thousand members of the
National Guard have been drafted into the city. Eleven hundred
officers from the public safety agencies across the state have

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also been called up what they're now terming Operations Safety Net.
In the early hours of Sunday, two members of the
National Guard were injured into drive by shooting. There Throughout
the weekend, communities in Minnesota echoed with the sound of
hammering as shops and businesses all boarding up their businesses.
Some business owners now have hired private security firms the

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cost of up to three grand a day. It's probably
cheap at this point. Then, of course, we have Maxie Waters.
Hours after she urges protesters to get confrontational with the police.
By the way, we're all the Democrats crying about insurrectionist
language anyway, Miranda Divine pointed out in her column today,

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Waters urged protesters who had attacked the police the previous
night that are ready defying the curfew to stay on
the street because we're looking for a guilty verdict and
if we don't get it, we cannot go away. We've
got to get more confrontational. And then, sure enough, within
hours of those remarks, two soldiers were injured when someone

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opened fired on the Minnesota National Guard and Minnesota police
and a drive by shooting. National Guard, Minneapolis Police, neighborhood
security team fired upon early Sunday morning, and a drive
by shooting near Pennsylvania Avenue and Broadway, Minneapolis, and another tweet.
The Guard said the shooting took place around four am

(08:51):
local time. Like colored suv approached, someone inside fired several
shots at a security team providing neighborhood security. When guardsman
sustaining an injury from the shattered glass and take it
to the hospital. Now Republicans are getting a little angry
at this. Maxie Waters is rightly being accused of incitement

(09:12):
by Republicans for urging protesters to get more confrontational. He says,
Derek Chauvin must be guilty, guilty, guilty, or we take
to the streets. Here's Maxie Waters. Not just manslaughter, Oh no,
not manslaugh, No, no, no murder. I don't know never

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in the case degree that as far as I'm concerned,
from what happens if we do not go get what
you I didn't hear you. What should protesters do? Well,
we got to stay on the street. Uh, And we've
got to get more I did. We've got to get
more confrontational. You've got to make sure that they didn't

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they know that we need business. You know, for all
the years that I would scroll the names on television
of all the people shot, all the people shot and
killed in Chicago, going back to the Biden Obama years,
nobody ever lifted a finger. I didn't even get Linda.
I didn't ask for the total. Today, I don't know

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how many people I wonder got shot in Chicago. I
know one person got shot. I know at a McDonald's
drive through. A beautiful seven year old girl was killed,
shot and killed at a at a McDonald's drive through
in Chicago. Then of course, now we want bail reform
man charged with attacking. So we had an we have

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incidences here of targeted Asian American hate crimes in New
York City. So you had an undercover Asian American NYPD
officer and a guy tried to literally throw this person
into the into an oncoming train in the subway. Now

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facing hate crime charges in that attack, you know, I mean,
it's unbelieved that. Thank god the CoP's strong enough to
fight back in that particular case. No, it's just unbelievable.
All right here, it is twenty six shot, five dead
in Chicago. Do you know the names of any of
the twenty six people? Does that as you heard the

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name of the five people shot just the typical weekend
under You know they are lightweight prior to that mayor deadfish.
You know, Republicans rightly slamming Maxie Waters comments for encouraging
riots and violence. This is the same Democratic Party that
was all up in arms because Donald Trump said, many

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of you will peacefully and patriotically let your voices be
heard at the well march to the Capitol and let
your voices be heard. Now here's the worst part of
this case of this, this attack against this police officer,
seems to be a rise in these hate crimes anyway.

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A man charge was trying to shove an Asian undercover
police officer under Queen's subway tracks was cut loose without
bail Sunday. The judge said, was disgusted in this case
because my hands are tied. You know. The guy thirty
two years old, Ricardo Hernandez, has twelve prior charges and

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arrests based with three hate crime charges in an attack
trying to kill an officer, which he thought was just
a civilian who's basically had occurred at the Long Island
City and Train and not that it means anything to
anybody anyway. At the arrayment, the Queen's Supreme Court Justice,
guy by the name of Lewis Knox, said the state's

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barer form measures barred him from holding the suspect in jail.
The judge said, my hands are tied because of under
the new no bail rules, I have absolutely no authority,
no power whatsoever to set bail on this defendant for
this offense. That's because of you know, great job, Governor Cuomo,

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by the way, and this is what Democrats want nation
why pay attention to this? This is not good. What
a sad story. You should see the picture a beautiful
young girl seven years old. Police identified the father and
his daughter and a McDonald's Do you take your kid through?

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Every kid loves McDonald's. They usually like that. You know
what they called the kid's meal. What is Liam like?
Linda happy meal, happy meal, happy happy child meal? Whatever
that you get the toy in it and everything. Yeah,
we don't really frequent too many fast food restaurants. But yeah,
I know because your rigid mom who you know, wants
to feed your son Kale. You know he doesn't need

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cal He just doesn't need McDonald's. He does so he
loves McDonald's. Yes, the only thing my son eats French fries.
Every kid love does and French fries and he loves.
He loves coke or are the orange drink one of
the others. I'm not annoying. He does not drink any
soda at all. Of course you're awful. You're an awful

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telling you not to give yourself, not to give your
kid McDonalds. Oh yeah, gross, Oh man, I love McDonald's.
I can't help myself, all right, Listen and Mark Levin,
all right, twenty five till the top of the hour,
eight hundred and nine four one, Sean, you want to
be a part of the program. Jury instructions coming after
closing arguments. Ultimately, in this case, Maxie Waters, Derek Chauvin

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must be guilty, guilty, guilty, or we take to the streets.
And she wants a specific verdict, not one of the three.
You know, urging protesters to get confrontational BLM activists protester
in DC that you know it's time to now for
people are ready to how long before people are ready

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to get blood on their hands? One years old and
I'm ready to dedicate my life to change and to
bring about that change. It's not gonna always be pretty,
and it's not gonna be peaceful. I don't condemn people
who who loot. I support them for looting. I sup
put people who who take matters in their own hands.
If you want to set someone fire, go do that.
Voting is not gonna bring us this, as you can see, y'all.
We voted in the new president, Joe Biden. But I

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told folks straight up, Joe Biden ain't gonna do nothing
for us because Joe Biden was in office as the
Vice president when the Black Lives Matter movement started. It
ain't nothing change. We've been protesting for a really long time.
How much longer can we protest in marching the streets
before people are really really ready to get blurred on
their hands, because one of these days it's gonna have
to come to that. Oh look at New York, molotov

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cocktails throwing a police after a stop. A police stop
on a routine traffic stop wasn't routine. At the MPD
also nabbed the guy entering the subway. It was an
AK forty seven on the Ohio teenager going on. You know,
you got to understand all of this now, is this

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reality Minnesota police sit at Minnesota City Council is moving
towards unarmed traffic enforcers after what happened in the Dante
Right case where he resisted arrest and the and the
police officer in this case at twenty five year veteran
pretty stellar record, I'll tase you, I'll taise you, taser, taser, taser,

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and then oh scheff and shot the guy one time.
It was it seems like a strong case to be
made there that it was an accidental discharge. This is
this is now where we are the party of defunding
the police, the party of nobel the now the party
of dismantle and abolish the police. You know, how much more,

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how how much higher is the murder rate's going to
have to go before people realize what's going on here.
Hundred cops killed already under in the line of duty
this year. Chicago has a record murder year last year.
They're up thirty three percent from that this year. New
York City's up fifty eight percent from a record last year,

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Louisville up eighty seven percent, Las up fifty one percent,
Minneapolis is up sixty four percent. How's this working out
for everybody? Then, you've got a gallipole that just came
out all these left wing activists with all this incendiary
rhetoric demanding a specific outcome. I can only imagine the

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pressure this jury is feeling till now. They've not been sequestered.
Majority of black Americans now, according to a Gallipole from
last July, they said they want a police presence in
their area to either remain the same or to increase.
You know, Rudy Giuliani, forget his politics, murder rate was

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approaching three thousand murders a year, and they looked at
the city, where's most of the crime happening, Wherever the
crime was happening, not race base, Where where is it happening.
We're the highest incidents of murder and violence taking place,
using the majority of NYPD resources, applying it to the

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areas that most need a greater police presence, instituting stopping frisk,
and then that rate has driven, you know, down below
three hundred. And then to Bloomberg's credit, I'm not the
biggest Bloomberg fan. He followed up on it. Now he
regrets it for some reason. I have no idea why.

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But you know what, this is your modern democratic party
with the police. Okay, yeah, we'll get rid of bail,
we'll defund, we'll dismantle, will abolish. What's the result of
all of this. Then we're gonna try and accumulate hour
and perpetuity, will pack the courts, will get rid of
the legislative filibuster, will institute HR one, no voter identification, whatsoever?

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You needed for everything else in life. I can't buy
a six pack of beer without it, can't buy a
jewel pod for crying out loud without it, and they
minimize only buy four packs of jewel pods. Good grief,
DC statehood that's up this week. Puerto Rico to follow
open borders, amnesty, Biden's cages. The media's silence is deafening.

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We're ready now for the biggest tax increase in over
three decades. Biden using taxpayer dollars to bribe blue states
that support him electorally, to support unions that support him,
to buy off unions that support him electorally, and the
Green New Deal. All the money in the name of

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emergency COVID relief. It's not draconian shutdowns will keep that
going as well. How is it gonna? What are you going? Look?
I really am not worried about my life, worry about
my kids, not really not worried about my life, worried

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about people that cannot defend themselves. I can defend myself
as best I can, and if at the end I
don't win, I don't win. My numbers up, but I'm
gonna try to defend myself and I'm pretty good at it.
If there are a lot of people that can't defend themselves,

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what are they gonna do? Look at how the world's change.
Donald Trump is gonna be on Hannity tonight nine Eastern
for the full hour. Look at what's Look at the
change in the territorial ambitions now of China. Look at
now the territorial ambitions and the Russians again now threatening Ukraine.

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Look at the Iranians. What the Iranians are up to
is no good. They seem emboldened. Joe Biden now wants
to go back to that idiotic Rand deal North Korea. Yeah,
I don't think they had the sit I think these
countries had a genuine belief that Donald Trump meant it.

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If he said it, he meant it, and he'd do it,
And that Donald Trump was not going to shy away
from making a tough call to stop aggression. I think
these countries understood that. I don't think they feel the
same way about Joe Biden. They studied Joe Biden just
like they studied Trump. Trump made them nervous. There was

(21:35):
a respect and a fear of Trump that he would
do what he says he's gonna do. I'm not sure
they see Joe Biden quite the same way. I think
they view him as weak and frail. And struggling cognitively.
You know, Trump got rid of the of Isis, He
got rid of Solomoni Baghdaddy and associates, the al Qaeda

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leader and Yemen. He did all of that. I think
of everything else that he did that, he never got
credit for lower drug prices, favored nation status, best economy
in the last fifty years, pre COVID record, low unemployment
for every demographic in the country. I know so many
were so offended by his tweeting. Now we're getting lectured

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on now it's okay for insurrection as language of Maxie Waters.
Nobody says a thing in the democratic side. Everyone was
so offended in the mob, in the media big text,
so offended by Donald Trump's tweeting, canceled on Twitter, canceled
on social media. Just silence him and eliminate him. Don't
run stories about zero experience, Hunter's laptop to protect the candidate,

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Joe Biden hiding in his bunker basement the entire campaign.
He's never been a president that was more pro life,
pro religious freedom, pro Israel than Donald Trump. We've become
energy independent for the first time in seventy five years.
He didn't wage a single war in his four years,

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not one donated his salary. Is Joe donating his He
imposed sanctions on Cuba, He imposed sanctions on Maduro, removed
economic support for Planned parenthood, unmasked un hypocrisy, pulled us
out of this ridiculous Iranian deal, and unmasked the World

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Health Organization, and got rid of the Paris peace agreements,
and then achieved historic peace agreements with Israel and several
Middle Eastern countries. And the list continues. But we seem
to forget now we've got Joe. By the way, even
moderate Democrats are now squirming over this defund the police nonsense.

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Now there are a lot of states stepping up and
saying we're not going to take these changes in our
voting laws. We're going to ensure voter ID laws, voter
signature verification laws, chain of custody laws, and partisan observers
that will be able to observe the same with policing.
Rohnda Santa signed a comprehensive anti riot legislation bill. I

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had him on TV on Friday for that very reason.
This is your new modern, extreme, radical Democratic party. Biden
has now banned the phrase the illegal alien. You can't
use that phrase, even though it's used in the statutory
language of almost every law, the term was very calm.
Washington Post reported the shift, which also junks the phrase

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assimilation in favor of integration. I mean the word police
are out in full force here. If you enter the
country illegally, you're here illegally. You didn't respect our laws
or sovereignty. Nor should you get rewarded for lawbreaking, not
respecting our laws, sovereignty and borders. It's that, you know,
Biden finally called what's happening at the border or crisis.

(25:02):
That was a big lift for him. It's a crisis,
but he's still letting everybody that crosses the border illegally
stay in the country, holding out amnesty something of great
worth eight hundred and nine. You know, I'm all for
legal immigration, but come in legally, respect our laws, our borders,
and our sovereignty. Go through the legal process, and then

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when you come in, you should have a health check
in light of COVID and other things. You should have
a security check, and you should be able to prove
that you're financially capable of taking care of yourself. Then
I don't care where you come from. Welcome to our family.
Do it legally. Do it legally. Now he's raising the
refugee inflow into the country. Great, well, that's that we

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have seventeen million Americans needing jobs. Then he's ending all
these high paying career jobs in the energy sector. Now
everyone's going to be competing. That means wages will be
driven lower and lower and lower. By the way, Hunter's
book only sold the whopping ten thousand copies. Let me
put it this way. That is an unmitigated failure and disaster.

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I wonder how much you got paid for that book.
But that's a disaster. The DOJ targeted Hunter apparently, you know,
like last week we learned that, oh the story just
before the election about Vladimir Putin targeting in the Middle
East American soldiers. Yeah, low probability that ever happened, low probability, unbelievable.

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Democrats are claiming in their infrastructure build climate action is infrastructure.
Ed Markey says, Congresswoman Strickling saying it's affordable housing his infrastructure.
You have. Let's see a Lieutenant Governor Mandela Barnes saying
police accountability is infrastructure. Congress Person Jones saying that the

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Supreme Court expansion is infrastructure. They're all lying to you.
It's not infrastructure. Were New Deal's infrastructure. It's not infrastructure.
You know, paid leave is not infrastructure. Senator Jillibrand neither
his childcare, neither his care giving. It's not infrastructure. Pelosi

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says Dems may need to expand the Supreme Court because
of the size of our country. Okay, By the way,
if Maxie Waters, if Donald Trump used the rhetoric of Maxine,
would they impeach Donald Trump. I think we know the
answer to that, because it's all happening. Everything we told
you eight hundred nine for one sean. Then we got,

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of course coronavirus and everything that's happening there. By the way,
Bill Maher actually ripped Democrats and the mob and the
media's ignorance over the basic COVID nineteen facts. He called
it panic porn. Well, now we're not allowed to go
to a restaurant and go out even if you've got
the vaccine. The santist did the same thing, and I

(28:07):
was interviewing him Fouci's Fouci's ended up being so wrong.
Now Fouchi's trying to weigh in on guns as a
public health issue, like, gee, thanks Anthony Fouci did such
such a good job of telling us a year ago,
mass don't work. Maybe they'll stop at droplet. But that's
about it. They've been wrong on pretty much everything. It's
like the forever never ending pandemic. Okay, now everyone either

(28:34):
has had COVID and they have antibodies, even at the
antibody levels go low used to leve t cell antibodies.
Get the vaccine. Everyone gets the vaccine. Now, yeah, you
still can't go out. These are incredible times. Then you
got fake news CNN apparently Project Veritas confronted Humpty dumpty.

(28:55):
Somebody asked Stelter, if the employee in question of fake
news and then is still employed, I feel really bad
for you. Are you a journalist the correspondent as humpty?
Are you able to report anything that's not directly handed down?
I report whatever I want. You need to leave. It's

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very funny, unbelievable. We have a lot at stake. I
just want to deputize all of you listening to this program.
What happens now matters if you care about twenty twenty two,
the four things that every state needs to have and
they need to fix it even in the Georgia bill
signature verification, voter ID chain of custody, meaning that we

(29:41):
watch where the ballots come from and where they every
step of the way, and partisan observers should be able
to observe the vote count and you should be able
to do it that day, that night our two Sean
Hannity Show eight hundred and nine for one Sean. You
want to be a part of the program. So closing
arguments in the case of Officer Chauffin going on now

(30:02):
in the George Floyd case, and uh, to me, look,
I've given my opinion on what I saw from my
vantage point and the nine minute and twenty nine second
video that everybody saw, and what happened here and what
I believe were mistakes made. And uh, thankfully it's not
a matter of the jury only having one option. They

(30:25):
have multiple options that they'll be presented and then they'll
make the decision, render their decision. I would expect, probably
it's not going to happen today, but it should happen
this week. And but there are people already stirring up
the pot, including and Frank Frankly predictably in her case,
Maxie Waters and Chauvin must be found guilty, guilty, guilty,

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or we take to the streets. Here's what she said,
not just no, no, no, agree, But as far as
I'm concerned, as from what happens if we do not
go get what you just told? Listen to people, I
didn't hear you. What should protesters do? Well, we got

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to stay on the street, and we've got to get
more I did. We've got to get more confrontational. We've
got to make sure that they did they know that
we need business. Where are all of the Democrats that
love I haven't heard their favorite word yet. Insurrection, insurrection
and insurrection. You know, the history of Maxie Waters is

(31:35):
well known. Her incendiary rhetoric. Here's just a small sampling
of it. You can't be intimidated, you can't be frightened.
As far as I'm concerned, the Tea Party can go
straight to hell. I am hoping that we're able to
reveal all of this, and my greatest desire is to
lead him right into impeachment. Don't see anybody from that

(31:58):
cabinet in a restaurant. It is a good miss d
at a gasoline station. You get out and you gay
a god and you goss back on them, and you
tell them then and I will come anymore. I am
sitting here listening, watching absorbing, thinking about Ali even though

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I never met him. And with this kind of inspiration,
I will go and take Trump out tonight. Well whatever,
he shouldn't be going after anybody. He's the president of
the United States of America. He's setting some of us
up to be killed. A lot of people will not
warn those masks because they're there. Their president didn't wear

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them and told them that it didn't make any difference
or probably dead now, and he's responsible for it. And
for those black young men who think somehow they can
align themselves with Trump Trump, not only they terribly mistake,
mistake good, any of them showing their face. I will
never ever forgive that. What should protesters do, Well, we

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got to stay on the street, and we've got to
get more active, We've got to get more confrontational. We've
got to make sure that they know that we need business.
And Peach Futty five and Peach Funny Fie and Peach
Bunty five, and it goes on and on. I could

(33:28):
go on for the whole hour anyway, joining us, he
just made an announcement, by the way, that he is
going to run and challenge the sitting governor, Governor Kemp
in Georgia in a primary. Vernon Jones is back with us, sir,
welcome back to the program. How are you go find Sean?
How are you my friend? I'm good. So there's a

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lot of rumors about a lot of people. I had
been hearing rumors Doug Collins might challenge Kemp, hearing rumors
that herschel Walker may make a run for the Senate.
What are you hearing? Well, I'll tell you what I'm hearing,
and I can tell you what I'm knowing and what
I know and here that Vernon Jones has taken on

(34:09):
Brian Kemp. Why because Brian Kemp has failed people in
state of Georgia. He failed Donald Trump, he failed and
caused us to lose to U S senency and by
the way, he calls us to lose Major League Baseball.
All those Atlanta run a Constitution trying to help him
out through his primary because they know he can't beat
Stacy and I can. But that's what I know, and

(34:31):
I think that's more important than what I'm here, and
that's what I know as far as other campaigns, they
can take care of themselves. We have to have someone
that has proven the test of time. Still with Donald Trump.
Donald Trump's his issues, his agenda, his legacy, like I have,
and I had it all to lose. I put it
all on the field because I believe in Donald Trump

(34:52):
and I support him and Brian Kemp cutting ran and
not only did he do that, but he allowed himself
and Stacey Abrams in the Secretary of State do a
back room deal that really manipulated election laws that only
the members of the General Assimiate can do. Sew. You
know that, and I know that in American people know that.
And even when you had a chance to call special session,
he failed to do so. And so I'm sorry, go ahead.

(35:15):
I think there are four things needed for every state,
and I know that other states. I do applaud the improvements.
But then you got Joe Biden referring to the new
Georgia voting law as Jim Crow two point zero. Now
they now the state of Delaware has, let's see, zero
days of imperson early voting. Your state of Georgia has

(35:37):
seventeen days of imperson early voting. In the state of Georgia,
there's a drop box location in every single county and
both states require voter ID. I'm not sure why they
got rid of the signature verification. I think signature verification,
chain of custody, partisan observers being able to observe and

(35:59):
picture ID should be the be a part of every
law to ensure integrity in elections and competence and election results. Well, Sean,
that's the whole thing too, Nobody, most people in Georgia
do not have faith in the election process. What happened
And let me say this, Yes, the legislature took a
step in the right direction, but that was not any
legislation put forth by Governor Kemp. That was from the

(36:21):
legislative body trying to fix his mask. The fact of
it is they did not do anything to get rid
of the system. The system that's there now. There's too
many questions, unanswered questions. There are too many people who
distrust distrust that, and day one when I become governor,
you're not going to see a system in place that
the American people in Georgians can't believe in. So we're
going to deal with that. As far as other things

(36:43):
with this governor, you know and I know it. He
cow tied to Stacy. He is afraid of Stacy Abrams,
and the media knows that Stacy can beat him and
I can't. That's what this is coming down to. Forget
about the primary, this is the general election. Stacy Abrams
is a communist based on with socialism in her, she
has Marxism in her. She's caring the left, she's been

(37:06):
doing it. I am going to stop that. And you
know it's turn You know this. She can't play the
race card on me. The Democratic Party can't play the
race card on me. I'm gonna call Joe Biden out
for as big as he is. Jim Crow too, really,
Joe Crow too. And what he's trying to do is
repent now because he knows his time is limited. He's
trying to repent and trying to make up for the
forty seven years that all he did was destroyed black

(37:28):
people and black communities in our country with his liberal ways.
And so this is a new day. We want people
in George with a stamp and fight, fight for election integrity,
support the presidents of agenda getting ridy for twenty twenty
two and twenty twenty four and Sean. You know and
I know it. I bring a different twist. I've always
been a lifelong conservative Democrat. I'm pro First Amendment, Second Amendment.

(37:51):
I am pro life. That's to be clear about that.
No longer can the Democratic Party try to pressure me
to vote their way. I'm not going to be cow
tied to that. And those who think that I can't
be a Democrat change and became a Republican. Then look
at two other governments we had here were pretty good
damn governors. You had a governor Nathan Neal who's a

(38:12):
Democrat became Republican, became governor. You have Sonny Perdue who
was a Democrat became Republican and became governor. That both
were good governments. I think I'm in good company. Seemed
like it takes an ex Democrat with conservative values and
not a rhino to stand up for worse writing in
the state, some election integrity, to standing up against the
liberal mom So you have said the Democratic Party left you.

(38:33):
So you've been a lifelong Democrat. Now you're a Republican.
A conservative Republican, I would argue, based on by many
years of knowing you, and now you're going to challenge
a sitting governor and then ultimately, I guess you would
hope that you'd win and run against Stacey Abrams. Now,
with this latest debaccle is costing the state of Georgia
or AE hundred million dollars. So the estimates tell us

(38:57):
in terms of business for the people of Georgia. I've
got to imagine people are pretty angry at Joe Biden
and Stacy Abrams over allowing that false, lying narrative about
the new Georgia voting law to go forward. Especially Joe
Biden's been in Delaware representing not Stay fifty years and
he never liveded a finger to make voting more accessible

(39:19):
to the people of Delaware, and this voting law in
Georgia is far more accessible to everybody in Georgia. Well,
first of all, Sean, we're the leadership from the governor.
Why didn't he talk with the business community, talked with
cod and said Coca code before you start talking about
our Jim Crow law supporting Stacey Abrams. Have you read
the bill? And by the way, why are you telling
white the employees there that they need to be less white? No,

(39:42):
you got it twisted. Then I will also say to
Major League baseball. Wait a minute, you want to move,
you want to leave here? Why if you want to
move to Denver? Denver as a population of nine percent black,
and Denver black in Atlanta. So if you're talking about
you want to help and support black people, look, I
mean to black people, businesses and fame ends and all
people white and black. That you heard you? So so

(40:03):
KEMP is a day late and one hundred million dollars short,
and then I would have walked right on over the
Delta Airlines. Wait a minute, mister Delta Airlines, don't you
head maasson. Don't you have to have a ID to
get on your plane? Don't you? If not, you can't
get on the plane. People need IDs to go to
the library to check out a book, they need IDs
to go to the hospital, the hotels. And it's been

(40:24):
mean and it's bigotry. It's the bigotry and in the
Democratic Party to say that black people do not have
the ability to have an idea and go and vote.
It was a lie from the start. It was a sham.
But where's the leadership from the governor. The governor should
have gone either to New York or had New York
to come down here and said, wait a minute, let's
have a discussion about this. And by the way, last
time I check Major League Baseball and you know this,

(40:45):
Sean is based in New York. Now you look at
their election laws and compare them to Georgia's. Georgia election
laws are follow over more restrictive Georgia. We want to
do two things. We want to make it easy for
people vote, and we might want to make it hard
for others to chief simple plane and point blank and so.
But we need a leader, Sean. We need someone won't

(41:07):
cut and run the president and look at it. You know,
Bryan's been a rhino. Look at what happened this past
weekend at a state delegation meetings throughout the county's Republican
county conventions. He had about fifteen counties that censored the governor.
When have you had a governor since it's about fifteen counties,
it's unheard of. I wasn't making valve aster South Georgia

(41:28):
this past weekend. I'm running into people's fears. And you
know what, they may forgive Brian for what he did,
but they're sure not going to forget it. And come
next year, Yes, you're gonna see me. I'm gonna be
elected governor. You know why because I represent Georgia's values
and I represent fighting for Georgia and not only going
to change Georgia, We're going to change the entire country.
I have the ability, and you know this too, shun

(41:49):
my uniqueness. I can grow the party. I can grow
to the party with young people. I can grow the
party with minorities. President Trump had he had to play
in his playbook. He did more to bring more minorities
across the line than any Republican presidential candidate has in
the past sixty years. He has the right playbook. He
understands people, he can feel people, and he's a fighter.

(42:11):
And he and I just to like. And that's why
I put my country before my party. I didn't leave
my party in the party left me. But I am
against transgender birol males participating in female sports. Democrats always
want to talk about they're protecting women or they support women. No,
that's not supporting women. I'm also against like the Democrats
are promoting to have children sean children to be injected

(42:34):
with hormones and have sex changes. No, why didn't the
governor pass two pieces of legislation to stop that, one
to stop transgender biro males from being in female sports,
to other protecting children from having sex operations. What do
they know whether they know, Sean, their children. You have
to be eighteen to vote in twenty one to buy

(42:54):
a cigarette, and now we're going to do things that
can alter child's body as a child. No, And that's
why I'm bringing, by the way, school choice. Black people
know that their kids are trapped in failing schools because
Democratic police. They would rather have their child they have
the money to followup child and being a performance school
as opposed to a failing school. But Democrats have locked
and lied to black people for years. That's why I'm

(43:17):
their biggest threat. I'm the Liberals' biggest threat, Sean, because
now one cannot shake up Georgia, but we can shake
up this country because we're bringing others to this party.
We are growing the party. That's why I came to
the Grand Old Party, bringing grand new people, grand new ideas,
and grand new opportunities. Sean go to Jones for Georgia
dot Com. All your listeners, Let's win. Let's win big.
Georgia is a national race. There's not a local race anymore.

(43:38):
This is a national race. I said in the beginning,
John so goes Georgia, so goes this country. Now look
what we have, Brian Kemps directly responsible for not only
us losing two years senators, but President Trump's election two
And what we have now we have Joe Biden, nas
Velosi and Church humor. They remind me of the Wizard
of Ours. One has no brand, ain't no one has dover,

(44:01):
has no heart, no other have no courage and not
necessary in their order. And they're being led not by
Total and Dorothy, they're being led by the wicked witch
of the South, Stacy Abams. We're gonna put a stop
on that. Sean Jones for Georgia dot Com. All right,
I don't even know what to say, but I can
say this. If it was a ticket that had you
and hershel Walker on it, I don't see how that

(44:22):
ticket loses to be very honest, and it would be transformative.
The Republican Party needs to be the party of working
men and women, the party of law and order and
safety and security in every town, in every city. And
they've got to be the party that fixes the unholy
alliance between Democrats and teachers unions and allows school choice
once and for all, so so our kids. We spend

(44:45):
more money per capita on education than any country in
the industrialized world with the worst results. Let the Democrats
be the party of coastal elites. Republicans need to be
the party of working men and women. Vernon Jones, thank you,
my friend, come back often. Okay, got a deal at
twenty five till the top of the hour, eight hundred
and nine four one Sean, you want to be a

(45:05):
part of the program. So this is Joe Biden. Just
imagine a second that this is Donald Trump. He is
with the Prime Minister of Japan, close ally of the
United States, and he talks about the winner of the Masters,

(45:26):
Hideki Matsayoma as the guy's name, and he just said, well,
you know the Japanese boy that wont listen. I know
how proud you are of the people of Japan are
and uh, you've got a Japanese boy coming over here.
And guess what he won the Masters? Do he won
the Masters? He won the green jacket, and Matsuyama was

(45:48):
the first Japanese player to take home that green jacket
at the Masters tournament this week, So let me say
congratulations Japan as well on that feat with the woke
crowded in America have accepted Donald Trump saying any of
these things, I tend to doubt it. I really tend

(46:09):
to doubt it. Jim Crow two point zero. Now he
keeps saying Delaware zero days of in person voting, seventeen
days in Georgia. Both Delaware and Georgia, you both you
need voter ID picture ID in both states. No drop
boxes in Delaware, but you have drop boxes in Georgia.

(46:33):
Nobody seems to care about Joe's history regarding race that
we have gone into great specificity in detail. You can't
work at a seven eleven or Duncan no nuts unless
you have a slight Indian accent. And all these companies
and corporations that went along with a big lie. I mean,
you think of just the Democratic agenda, what is it
packing the courts? By the way, that's coming up now

(46:56):
with their commission that they put together on not only
defunding the police. Now the strongest leading contingent of Democrats
in the House, the squad members saying, oh no, no,
we no more police. Barack Obama, We've got to rein
we got, We got to create a new vision of
what policing actually means. Remove the legislative filibuster. With the

(47:21):
reason that they're going so hard at George's because they
don't want any voter ID whatsoever. Zero zip DC statehood
coming up this week, followed I'm sure by Puerto Rico's statehood.
All the open borders amnesty. You know, Oh well, what
does that mean? You give something to people of great

(47:42):
value in the hopes that they will appreciate it and
vote for you in perpetuity. I'm not against immigration, I'm
for legal immigration. Biggest tax hike in over three decades.
We're gonna call it emergency COVID relief. But it's really
just a big blue state all out and a down
payment for the New Green Deal draconian shut downs that

(48:06):
they still want to continue. You know, no bail, you know,
abolish the police, defund the police. I guess more moderate
Democrats take the defund position. Um, it's pretty unbelievable here.
You know, even though you got your your your vaccination,
you still better better keep that mask on anyway and

(48:28):
maybe still stay home. What was the point of getting it?
It's pretty unbelievable and what's the result. Okay, you have
a hundred cops killed. Chicago's murder rate up from last
year's record rate of by thirty three percent. This year,
New York City murder It's murder rate up fifty eight percent,
Louisville up eighty seven percent, Minneapolis up sixty four percent.

(48:53):
The Maxine Waters admonition, or there's this verdict, better better
come back the way we want. That's what it sounds
like to me. Not just manslaughter, oh no, not manslof No, no, no,
murder the first degree. That as I'm concerned from what

(49:13):
happens if we do not go get you, just as
people protesters, I didn't hear you. What happens? What should
protesters do? Well, we got to stay on the street,
and we've got to get more I did. We've got
to get more confrontational. You've got to make sure that
they do. They know that we need business. Okay, get

(49:36):
more confrontational. What does that mean? You know? Look to me,
I've already outlined I won't repeat myself here, my thoughts
on the trial that's going on, my thoughts on what
happened then the d George Floyd case. We usually tend
to be right. There's a problem you have. What juries are.
To get a guilty verdict, you need twelve people. If

(49:58):
one person disagree, it's over, then you're not. You're not
You're not going to get a guilty of Now maybe
a hung jury, and you may get another trial. I
certainly see under no circumstances an acquittal here. I think
the odds of a conviction of one of the three charges,
for sure is is likely very, very high. I'd even

(50:21):
argue in the high nineties. Um but to tell people
that you either get the verdict you want or this
is what people need to do. Um, Well, where's the investigation?
Where's the talk of insurrection? All right? Eight hundred and
ninety four one, Sean, if you want to be a
part of the program, Bill is in Georgia. Bill, Hi,

(50:42):
how are you? And uh, well, great job Joe Biden
and Stacy Abrams have done for your state. I'll tell
you that. Don't even get me started on that one.
Good talking to Sean. I mean, let's get to you
some bad Atlanta in the mid nineties. Yes, sir, well,
it's good. It's great to have you back here. Nineteen
ninety six was a great year. The Atlanta Journal Constitution

(51:04):
hadn't they're great at their year. End of addition, the
Olympics came and Sean Hannity left that was not very nice, wasn't. No,
It wasn't the reason I told today I was calling
about this thing that to Lead calling for no more
policing are incarceration. For me, that is really akin to

(51:26):
inciting violence or even anarchy if you want to take
it that far, because if you don't have police or
you don't have incarceration to punish people, you're just gonna
have mayhem in the streets. They simply put, and there's
not everybody is armed and ready to go and people
just be. It would be a mess. And it's it

(51:47):
really is inciting violence. That's the thing that it got
to be is that you know, everybody's talking about Trump
inciting violence when he really didn't in the end and
improved it when wasn't done. And you have shut your
mouth waters going along this last weekend and this comment

(52:07):
from to Lead, it just really runs me. Nobody's standing
up to these people. Yeah, look, I mean there are
people that are standing up to it, Republicans are, but
the media is on their side and with the media
on the side of the Democratic Socialist and the radicals.
It's it's a great defense for all things madness and crazy.

(52:33):
I mean, they will defend the indefensible. Doesn't matter what
Joe Biden says or does, doesn't matter how weak and
fairly is. It doesn't matter that his policies are failing,
doesn't matter that his administration is lying to us continually.
They give him a pass. I mean, I don't know
about you. I've had many occasions where I get blown
over by the wind, haven't you. Well, certainly we need

(52:56):
a louder bullhorn. I know that we need louder bullhorn
that they've got. We gotta find a way to do it.
I'll tell you what the loudest bullhorn is going to be.
It's gonna be in November of twenty twenty two, and
it's going to be in November of twenty twenty four.
That's the bullhorn. Now, in the interim, we need states
like Georgie. By the way, Georgia's law could be a

(53:18):
little stronger too. Why they got rid of signature verification
standards completely, I don't know the original bill had it
in there. Certainly wide at a boy politics to go
on in Georgia. So they probably won't ever find the
answer to that one. Well, they can still fix it.
There's still time, and I see Arizona's making moves to

(53:40):
make sure we have voter integrity and confidence and results
out there. Similarly in Pennsylvania, efforts have started, and efforts
have started in both Michigan and Wisconsin. And it needs
to happen. And if we don't do it, we you know,
don't come crying to me the morning after the night
before in November of twenty twenty two and say, well,

(54:00):
how do we allow this to happen? Because the first,
the first order of business is ensuring the integrity of elections.
Moving forward, hopefully we'll get the job done. Talking to you,
I'm talking to you, my friend. Thank you. And that's
why HR one SR one has to stop. Right as
we continue back to our busy phones, don't forget Donald

(54:23):
Trump for the hour tonight on Hannity nine Easton on
the Fox News Channel. Let's say hi to Andrews in
South Carolina. What's up, Andrew? How are you? I'm doing
pretty good, Sean, how are you doing? I'm good, sir.
What's happening? Well? Uh, Friday. You uh, you had a
little segment on um, you know, reforming the police or

(54:44):
whatnot in America, And I mean, I am totally for
reforming better you know. I guess you say better training
for our police officers. I'm not about defunding the police.
That's that's a bad idea in my opinion. Um listen,
I think it's simple. I think it's more training and
non lethal options. Those are my two big That's that's

(55:05):
exactly right, and that's why I called um so so
listen man. I've heard a lot of people talking about
like maybe you change in where the taser is placed
and that kind of stuff. And I did a little
bit of research probably nine months back whenever some of
the stuff started happening, and I think it would be
a fantastic idea to just put two rubber bullets in

(55:27):
every clip that a cop carries. The first two bullets
are rubber bullets. That gives you enough time. If you're
properly trained, you have less than a second before you're lethal.
But if you have an accidental discharge, like in cases
like Potter, you're you're very slim going to kill someone
with a rubber bullets. The problem is with that scenario,

(55:50):
and and I love the fact that you're thinking through it.
Imagine a scenario where somebody high on fenton Al painkillers
met that and fhetamine, whatever they're on, is charging at you. Now,
the odds are they're not gonna feel pain like most
people at that moment, but they're charging at you, and
they're gonna be in They're gonna You're gonna be in

(56:11):
a physical confrontation in less than a second. You don't
have time and under those circumstances now, but that would
also probably be a moment where, again, if your life
is being threatened, that would justify lethal force. It's hard
to predict every scenario. I mean, that's why every case

(56:32):
is unique and special and different needs to be judged accordingly.
I mean, in the case of this thirteen year old kid,
Adam to Ledo, I mean the original the knee, your
quick reaction of people, he had his hands up and
he got shot anyway, and then you look at the
video in real time, and then you slow the video

(56:54):
down frame by frame, which we did, and then you see,
you know, him turned slightly to the officer with a
gun in his hand and then turns drops the weapon.
Throws the weapon and then puts his hands up. That
officer at less than a second to decide what to do.

(57:15):
That off that, there's a reason why that officer has
not been charged in that case. You know that, Oh,
of course, of course. I mean again, I'm much like you.
I don't form an opinion off of a situation until
all the facts have been presented, um and and and again.
You know, I mean it, it's it's a very unfortunate
thing that the young man died. It's a very unfortunate

(57:36):
thing that she shots. Horrible. That's a that's a human life,
that's a you know, that's a my entire life. I've
I've dealt with guns my entire life, and I feel
like you know, when it comes down to it, defunding
the police is not the answer. And you know, something
like this, rubber bullets costs half as much as what

(57:57):
a regular round costs in I mean, you know, like
you said, seconds matter whenever it comes to to I
guess you'd say, uh, fatal situations or whatnot. Um, But
I feel as a shooter, two bullets is three tenths
of a second if you're in a panic situation. It's

(58:21):
on paper would probably work ninety five percent of the time.
It's it's not a horrible suggestion, it's something that could
be considered, but um, it's it's just well, first of all,
you have to have the non lethal projectile whatever it
happens to be that would work in a particular weapon.
I'm not sure if that specific technology exists yet. I

(58:43):
know people that are working on it because a lot
of people have gotten in touch with me that are
are in the business of building non lethal alternatives for people.
But it's it's a smart idea. I listen, I'm I'm
open to anything that's going to ultimately save lives and
still let cops to their jobs. But you know, they're
moving ahead in Minnesota with what I told you they're

(59:04):
trying to do last week, and that is a traffic stops.
They want to totally disarm police. Now we saw what happened.
You know, three officers were shot last week at a
routine traffic stop. Then we had the new Mexico tape
released last week. Officer routine traffic stop shot and killed
and that tape was released last week. So nothing's easy.

(59:26):
Thanks Andrew, appreciate it. Eight hundred nine four one sewn.
You want to be a part of the program, quick
break right back, stay right here for our final news
round up and information overload. All right, News round Up,
Information Overload hour. Never thought in my lifetime i'd see
such radicalism, such double standards. We see it every day.

(59:47):
You know, it's perfectly fine insurrectionist language of Maxie Waters
from this weekend. I mean, it's it's actually downright scary
what they're saying. We got activists now saying and urging
the crowd to get blood on their hands if they
don't get the verdict that they want. Al Sharpton heading

(01:00:08):
on out to Minnesota. Then of course Maxim Waters, which
we are highlighting a little bit in the last program,
pretty much inciting, well, you know, some type of activity
we'll take to the streets. What does that mean, we'll
take to the streets. Pretty unbelievable. This is your new
radical extreme democratic socialist party defunding the police. I guess

(01:00:31):
that's not enough now now it's abolished the police. Now
they're pushing Nobel nationally. You know, how do Americans pursue
happiness if they don't have law and order in safety
and security? How is that even possible? You know, then
on top of that, let's get rid of the legislative philipbuster.
Let's pack the courts while we're at it, an idea
that Joe Biden as I told you last week. So

(01:00:52):
that's a bone headed idea. But now more and more
Democrats are saying it. Listen. So we are here a
coalition beginning this effort to ensure that we restore justice
to the Supreme Court. It was a bone had idea.
The United States Supreme Court is broken, it is out

(01:01:14):
of balance, and it needs to be fixed. It was
a bone had idea. Some people will say we're packing
the court. We're not packing it. We're unpacking it. Sending
the McConnell and the Republicans packed the court over the
last couple of years. It was a bone had idea.
It's time to go back to this tradition and have
at least thirteen justices. It was a bone had idea.

(01:01:39):
When those seats are failed, we will finally have a
court committed to government by the people. It was a
bone had idea. It was a terrible, terrible mistake to make,
and it put in question for an entire decade the
independence of the most significant body, including the Congress. In

(01:02:01):
my view, the most significant body in this country the
Supreme Court of the United States of America. A bone
had idea, I guess not anyway. Joining us is carry
Severino's back with us, chief Council policy director at the
Judicial Crisis Network. Also, Ken Starr is back with Let's

(01:02:21):
us his new book out, Religious Liberty in Crisis. And
by the way, the Judicial Crisis Network launched a new
campaign opposing the Democrats court packing legislation. Let's play that
at Roosevelt, corrupted by power, in my view, unveiled his
court packing plan. It was a bone had idea. It

(01:02:41):
was a terrible, terrible mistake. I have not been a
fan of court tracking, but after one hundred and forty
five million in liberal dark money, Joe changed his Two
depends on how this turns out. Now he's exploring court packing.
But Joe, what are we talking about? It was a
bone had idea. It was a terrible terrible mistake, all right,

(01:03:05):
Joining us now, Carrie Savarino, Ken stars with us. Yeah,
it is a bonehead idea, but one that I think
the fix is kind of in carry. If we're going
to be honest here, I think Joe Biden's already made
up his mind, and I think he's going to try
and use this commission to justify a move from nine
Supreme Court justices to thirteen thoughts. Oh yeah, I think

(01:03:29):
you're absolutely right. And you know, when the House members,
the Democratic House members, announced this bill, I think that
with them kind of forgetting the order of operations that
they had had kind of stacked up, they were going
to have this commission then say, oh, the commission says
we should pack the court, we'll just do what the
academics say. But they forgotten. Then they introduced their bill
before the commission even had a chance to get going.

(01:03:51):
So it's clear they're not waiting for what these people
are saying. They know what they want to do, and
for them it's a win win. Either they get this thing,
path they pack the court. They have four more justices,
and then they're trying to push Briar out as fast
as they can, maybe five justices providing on the court
who are going to be guaranteed votes for every liberal
policy goal ever, or they don't get it done, but

(01:04:13):
they succeed in intimidating the justices into try to towing
that line in hopes that they won't push the Democrats
into into full fledged court packing. I think that's the
other agenda they have going either way. At four, you know,
Ken Starr, when you look at all of this in total,
and that would be court packing, removing the legislative filibuster

(01:04:36):
HR one, SR one, no voter id anyplace anywhere, widespread
mail in voting with no verification whatsoever. This week they've
taken up DC statehood Puerto Rico soon to follow open borders,
with the prominence of Amnesty, Blue state ballouts, Union baillouts,

(01:04:56):
Green New Deal ballouts, it seems to me that this
is the biggest power grab by government we'd have ever
seen in history. And you can add to it what
I believe is unconstitutional Joe Biden ruling through executive action
bypassing a coequal branch of government, that being the legislative branch.

(01:05:17):
It is an exercise in raw power, and so many
of the initiatives of the new administration, and now obviously
the Congress moving out on court packing HR one, reshaping
entirely in a very radical way, the voting laws of
the United States, intruding, i think, unconstitutionally into the paraguatives

(01:05:38):
of the States. But let me just say a word
on court packing. I'm so glad you played the clip
bone had idea. Nothing has in fact changed. One of
the things that our listeners should know is that the
Supreme Court operates very efficiently. There's no suggestion that there's
been a breakdown. There's no suggestion that there's this huge

(01:05:58):
backlog that the judicial business of the United States is
not being conducted. It is simply a disagreement with the
substantive results of the substance of results, by the way,
are often including in the area I just wrote my
book on religious liberty. These cases are often decided, not always,
but often decided by a supermajority, at times unanimously. So

(01:06:21):
at times what the complaint is about is really our
foundational freedoms, our fundamental freedoms enshrined in the Constitution and
the Bill of Rights, and trying to overturn Supreme Court
jurisprudence where there's been an enormous amount of agreement. So
it's a very bad idea. And what is really ironic,

(01:06:41):
Sean and Carry, as you know, is there is no
mandate in this last election. Look at the United States
Senate divided fifty fifty. That strikes me as an even split.
It takes Kamala Harris to come back from the border
if she's there, to cast a tie breaking vote. This
is so far removed from FDR's true mandate and answer

(01:07:01):
to the election nineteen thirty six, and even their president
Roosevelt was told no, it's a bone head idea. Okay,
So now the question is how how does this get stopped? Carrie? Well,
I think we have one route of stopping it, which
is thankfully so far Joe Mansion, Christian Cinema, the moderate Democrats,

(01:07:22):
some of the rare breeds that's becoming rarer here. They
have said they don't want to do this. Now, God willing,
they can stick up, to stand up to the pressure, because,
believe me, they're getting a huge amount of pressure from
these dark money groups. You spent millions and millions of
dollars to get President bid elected. Who are you going
to spend millions of dollars to try to influence their vote.
So they are saying, at least right now, that they

(01:07:44):
don't want it, they don't want to vote for this.
But again, I think that the other big problem here
is even if they don't manage to flip those with
this huge dark money pressure campaign against those senators. I
think the other big problem is they're intimidating the justices.
That you've had people saying basically, if you don't want
us to pack the court, maybe you should rule in
our direction. We've had out and out suggestions that way

(01:08:07):
from people like Senator Whitehouse a couple of years ago
in an immigates grief. So this is the other angle,
and I think the only solution is for it to
be so clear that the American people are this is
anathematis much like it was as Ken was talking about
for FDR. If it's very clear the people don't want
this and it's a political loser, that's the only reason

(01:08:27):
they would stop short of the brink because the only
thing they are more worried about than not being able
to utterly take over with all of their agenda is
to maybe lose an election. So that's what we have
to make make clear. Right as we continue with Kerry
Severino and Ken's Starr will get to your calls here
in a second. Ken's Starr, I would argue that the

(01:08:48):
Roberts Court up to date to this moment, probably we'll
go down in history as a court that allowed politics
to sway its decision may king starting with the Obamacare,
the ACA Act, and when that I've been told now
by numerous sources that John Roberts was going to vote

(01:09:12):
to eliminate the law and at the last minute decided
against it for political considerations. If this were to happen,
wouldn't this undermine that this notion, this belief that the judiciary,
a coequal branch of government often called on to resolve
differences between the other two coequal branches of government. Wouldn't

(01:09:35):
that then render them a political operation or extension of
the Democratic Socialist Party and their agenda things that they
would never get accomplished at the ballot box or legislatively,
they'll they'll use the courts to do for them. Well,
it would certainly erode the reputation for independence of the judiciary,
especially the Supreme Court. I mean, that's why the justices

(01:09:57):
have life tenure. That's why John Stevens was able to
serve until he was ninety years of age, people on
into their eighties. We want, and we've historically said, the
independence of the Streme Court is very important, and why
so they will be free from these political pressures. So yes,
we should all rise up and say, please, Justices, you

(01:10:20):
have something that is invaluable in the American power structure.
It is called life tenure. You don't have to face
elections reelections. Please use your best judgment, do not vote
because of the way political winds are blowing. That's the ideal,
and hopefully we will see a restoration of that ideal.

(01:10:42):
But it's a serious problem that there's a perception there,
certainly is that some votes are actually influenced strictly by
politics and keeping the court out of trouble. But even
liberal justices like Stephen Bryer and the ever so love
Ruth Pader Ginsburg were against packing the court, would there
potentially be a path towards a court challenge that could

(01:11:05):
even ultimately land in the Supreme Court where they themselves
would make way in on this this important matter. I
don't think so, because oh I'm sorry, go ahead carry
Oh no, gay, Yeah, I think you're I think you're
going down the same. They have the constitutional authority to
do this, right. Yes, absolutely that the size of the

(01:11:25):
court has changed. Originally it was five, so but it's
been this way for well over one hundred years and
you're so right, and again to hipologize carry Stephen Bryant
spoke out against it, and of course not too Charley,
long before she passed from this light, Ruth Ginsburg spoke
out against it. It just shows thoughtful people should be
rising up and saying no, quit trying to ruin the

(01:11:49):
independence of the Surren Court. So it essentially becomes like
a third world country that it's simply rubber stamps, like
the Venezuelan Supreme Court is simply going to rubber stamp
whatever the leaders shop of Javez once, No, that's not
our country. Don't try to ruin those country's basic institutions.
And you know who I would summon to the Stanza

(01:12:09):
to speaker is the great Frederick Douglas, who had lived
in slavery, and yet he said, the American institutions have genius.
There's genius behind these institutions, and Supreme Court independence is
one of them. Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt
about it, all right, Kerrie Severino, thank you, Ken Start,
thank you for the update. We really appreciate it. Will

(01:12:31):
continue to follow this very very closely. To me, it's
a huge danger all of these efforts to accumulate power
and perpetuity. I've never seen a power grab like this
in my lifetime, now doing this thirty three years. Thank
you both for being with us. Thank you, Sean alex
Is in New York. Alex hig you're on the Sean

(01:12:52):
Hannity Show. John, thanks for taking my call. I love
your show. I'm calling because this polishtician of a Senator,
Chuck Schumer says that President Trump stole two seats on
the Supreme Court and now it's up to the Democrats
to repair the damage. Sean, I don't get it. If
there's no problem with packing the court in order to
repair the damage, why did the Democrats not tell us

(01:13:14):
during the campaign that they would do this when they
were asked numerous times as to whether they would pack
the court or not ato Sean, every child knows that
you don't change the rules of the game during the
game when it benefits for you and not the other player,
because otherwise you're looked at as a cheap, sore loser.
And that's what the Democrats are doing. They're changing the rules,

(01:13:34):
they're packing the court because it benefits of them, since
then they're the minority and they have the House to
send it in the White House. They want to be
able to pass through whatever it is they want for
the next two years without anybody being able to stop them.
We got a bad line. Let me just play for you,
Alex in our audience here, Joe Biden asked her in
the campaign in twenty twenty on this very issue. In others, listen,

(01:13:54):
Speaking of those other candidates, several of them have proposed
major structural reforms to our government and to our democracy.
These include abolishing the electoral college, expanding the size of
the Supreme Courts, setting term limits for justices, abolishing the
legislative filibuster. Which, if any of these do you support? None,
because that structural change requires constitutional amendments. It grazes problems

(01:14:18):
that are more damaging than the problem that exist. Oh,
I guess Joe's changed now. The squad is in charge.
All right, your calls coming up. Don't forget my interview
with President Donald J. Trump tonight nine Eastern Hannity on
Fox News. And of course we're watching closing arguments today
in the Chauvin trial on the George Floyd case. We

(01:14:38):
expect the verdict this week. At some point we'll take
a break we'll come back. We'll continue all right, twenty
five till the top of the hour, eight hundred ninety
four one, Shawn our number. You want to be a
part of the program today, Let's say hi to David
Is in Maryland. David High, you're on the Sean Hannity Show.
Glad you called, sir hey Son. Thanks for taking my call. Yeah,
I work in law enforcement. I'm just calling him. Reference

(01:15:00):
the whole defund the police movement, whatever you want to
call it. Well, now it's not just it's not just
the fund now, it's the fund and abolish, abolish, correct, Right, Yeah,
So I'm calling so, uh, you know, some of my
buddies that I work with in law enforcement, we've kind
of come up with something we thought obviously it would
be doomed for failure. But if we want to appease
these people, why don't we just have these towns and

(01:15:22):
counties and cities vote on whether they want police or not,
because you know, obviously that's doomed for failure. If they
vote against police and we pull the police out of
those areas, you're obviously going to see crime skyrocket, which
is already skyrocketing, and a lot of cities across the US, obviously,
especially like cities like Chicago, because you know, you find
that some of these a lot of crimes, you know,

(01:15:44):
maybe they don't do it as you know, a really
bad crime, and they're not you know, enforcing the laws
like they normally would because of just all of this
defund movement. And now, like you said, abolish so I
don't know, I you know, obviously that would probably sail
if they vote, you know, police out of certain areas,
and we would show that it would fail. But why
don't we have areas that well, it's already failing. Your

(01:16:07):
instincts are right, we have numbers to back them up.
Chicago had a record murder rate last year, and it's
the murder rate so far this year is even thirty
three percent higher than then. New York City the murder
rates up fifty eight percent, Louisville's up eighty seven percent,
Minneapolis is up sixty four percent. La is up fifty

(01:16:29):
one percent. So it's already happening. We see the negative impact,
and I argue that it's impossible for Americans, you know,
that are endowed by their creator to life, liberty, and
the pursuit of happiness If you don't live in a
city or town with law and order that's safe and secure,
there's no way you can pursue happiness. You can't. Oh absolutely, absolutely,

(01:16:52):
a one hundred percent correct. And I just I don't
understand what is going through some of these people's heads
to say, oh, we don't need to lease, or it's
you know, it's too militaristic, or you know, I'm sorry,
you know that that's just that's not not the case.
We need law and we need law and order. We
need law enforcement. You know you can't survive without it. Uh, yep,
you speak the truth. Well what do you do? Are

(01:17:14):
you a police officer or yeah, actually, well I work
in law enforcement. I work in the actually more in
an investigative role now. I used to be in patrol,
but I'm actually in State of Virginia's where I work.
I'm just visiting family in Maryland. So appreciate the call.
Thanks for all you do, David. We We're glad you're
out there. Donna's in Chicago. Don you're on the Sean
Hannity Show, Happy Monday. Thanks for being will us. Hey,

(01:17:36):
we wanted to speak about the return about macing Wassington, DC, estate,
and I was looking at up I believe it was
seventeen ninety. Reasonly what happens. Maryland gave up some land
to make washingt in DC its own little city, and
Congress wanted to make it an independent area of controlled
by Congress who wasn't loyal to anyone's state. If people
want to move to the school, still again, I think

(01:17:58):
the best ways is re rut the back to Maryland
or Virginia. That the theories that gave it up. This way,
it's the most efficient way people there can do. Presenators
and congressmen they have all the representation, because that's the
argument that's been used. The other argument against that, though,
I heard someone saying that rading will show the other day,
was that well you do would uh you know, the
congressman would not do the you know, the minister amount

(01:18:22):
of representation because there have too many people now like
he can't control the amount of people in each state
and they part of the desert, real water. We take
care of that based upon the House representatives and congressman.
That's how you have a high, bigger population, you get
more congressman, more congressional seats. So that's what I think
the best way to do is just do the lame
back to Virginia and Maryland and we're done. Want to

(01:18:44):
call it a day, but it's obvious the reason they
want to do is because they want to get two
more senators. It's transparent. They think they get two Democratic
senators and perpetuity out of the deal. But that goes
to the heart of all of the power grab that
that that that's why they want to pack the courts.
Things they can't get done legislatively, they hope judicial activists

(01:19:05):
will do it for them, you know, get rid of
the legislative filibuster. Then we can ram everything through and
it will be one party rule in America. The same
with Puerto Rico statehood. The reason they want hr SR one,
and the real reason is they don't want any voter
ID whatsoever. They want no signature verification, they want massive

(01:19:26):
mail in voting. How can you ever, You'll never have
integrity or confidence in election results again, because they want
the ability to run it their way, and we know
what their way is. It's pretty transparent. You know. They
want to offer illegal immigrants and I'm for legal immigration.
I don't care where you come from. I'm for legal immigration,

(01:19:47):
and but I do believe you need to have a
background check. I think you need a health check in
the day and age of COVID. I think you need
to respect our laws, our sovereignty, our borders. I think
you need to be able to show that you'll be
financially able to take care of yourself while you're here.
And once you go through the process and we welcome

(01:20:08):
you into our country, we'll welcome to our family. We're
glad you here. If you want to work towards citizenship,
we should have. You know, I believe in merit based
citizenship myself, kind of like what Australia, New Zealand and
other countries like that have, but they don't want any
of that. You offer somebody something for free, of great value,
and and you know, with the hope is is that,

(01:20:28):
oh you'll you'll give us credit in perpetuity for that.
It's all a power grab. Republicans have often wanted illegal
immigration because they want cheap labor, and Republicans would appease
corporations that want a cheap labor, and Democrats thought that
there'd be a natural constituency for you know, people if
they offer amnesty, okay, something of great value. It's not.

(01:20:49):
It's I just want if we opened our borders, the
entire world would come. We just can't afford it. Every
person that Joe is letting into this country illegally and
facilitating law breaking right now, well they're not doing background checks,
they're not doing health checks. And now we're in the
position as taxpayers at a time when we can't afford

(01:21:10):
it to have to provide housing and an education and
healthcare and all the costs associated with people that just
don't have the money to live right now. And there's
not a lot of jobs available. So you know, we
could see what the Democrats are doing. I just I
just happen to believe. If you don't like the laws
as they're currently configured, well there's a process. Write a law,

(01:21:33):
pass a law, have a president signed the law, change
the law, build consensus among the people in your district
and in the country to go along with what law
you prefer. But they'd rather not do it that way,
and you could. I mean, you're you're all over there.
I love your show. You know, um it's obvious and

(01:21:54):
everything you're saying I'm agreeing with and with it. The
state thing, you know, like I say reverted back. I
think when a lot of people have to do those do.
Something you brought up the other night is you have
to call in and make your voice heard other stations.
I mean when I call into you, you know we're
preaching to the choir I called the liberal radio shop.
You'll be surprised, Tom Any liberals are paid to listen
to me in the hopes that they can get me canceled.

(01:22:15):
But go ahead, Oh no. I called in and I said,
there's no way. I'm from the South side of Chicago.
First time I voted the preesting Captain Keyman and voted
for me when I was a team pulled a lever
and everything in the old days, voted the street Democratic ticket.
I called it. I said, there's no way Joe Biden's
going to make four years. I truly believe it was
some backdoor deally cut and a couple of years he'll
back down and give Kamala Harris the non He'll say

(01:22:36):
it was health reasons or whatever. That bet five hundred
dollars or worth Rick Hungo. I Wonderfu'll even remember that
when it happens. But on the year it was a
five hundred dollars bet. But I called in the other
night and I made my argument about, you know, just
give the state back to Virginia or Maryland. And I
got the guy who was working in his place to
kind of agree with me and his whole thing as well.

(01:22:56):
You might delute the power of the senator, and I said, no, Walter,
you can't. You can't. And how many people to live
in the state. People are going to come and go
all the time. It's a dynamic, you know. So I
think if we're calling get our voice heard and not
preaching to the party, but calling to the liberal shows
and spread this word other places, get involved in your
local they don't want conservative voices heard. You got to
understand conservatives now are canceled on Twitter, on Facebook, on Instagram,

(01:23:21):
on YouTube. This whole deep platforming cancel culture is real. Now.
What does need to happen is, and I used to
use this phrase many years ago, we've got to become
the media. And that's when it was just the big
three networks. Now you've got you know, look look at
what Project Veritas did last week and exposing fake news

(01:23:42):
CNN as a radical socialist, agenda driven propaganda channel. That's
what they are. It's the same with ms DNC, it's
the same with the three networks, it's the same with
major newspapers, it's the same with big tech. And and
as as big as you have made this show, meaning
you and this audience. I mean, when we're talking about

(01:24:03):
hundreds of millions of people that they reach, now, their
power is enormous. That power must now be matched, and
there's got to be an ability and new platforms that
transcend where conservatives now where we're not wanted, will have
options to go to to turn to. And it's not
as simple as you think either, especially look at Big

(01:24:26):
Tech for example. You know, we're all for freedom of speech.
I wouldn't want to be a part of, though, a
forum that allows, you know, overt, clear, obvious, transparent racism
and bigot and bigotry of any kind or anti semitism.
I wouldn't want to be a part of that platform. Okay,

(01:24:48):
so now you put some very base, moderate standards, and
you have moderators that can take certain things down. But
it's a very very slippery slope where do you draw
the line, And it's just it becomes challenging for people
that want to do it and do it right. The
technology also is complicated, especially if you can't download the application,

(01:25:10):
the app needed to build out a new forum. I mean,
the deck is definitely stacked against us. We saw that
though major institutions, institutional forces against conservatives are alive and well,
the Democratic Party, the mob, and the media, big tech,
those are three of them. Anyway, good call, appreciate it.
Eight hundred nine for one, Shawn, our number Missouri. Jim

(01:25:31):
is next, Hi, Jim, how are you? Glad you called? Sir? Hello,
Hey Jim, what's going on? Hey, Sean, how are you?
I'm good, sir, glad you called. Well, I'll tell you what.
I really appreciate that you're taking a call and you
and Mark lavand all of you guys are standing up,
and I know what you have against you, because law
enforcement has the same thing to a large degree against

(01:25:53):
them too. And we are in a very sad state
of affairs with our law enforcement and really with our
country in terms of what the left and the fascists
are doing to pit one another against each other and
particularly against law enforcement. You know, Sean, law enforcement on
a day to day basis has thousands upon thousands of

(01:26:16):
positive contacts with the citizens in this country. But you
don't see that on mainstream media. They love the cherry
pick what they perceive may be or may not be
a negative incident, and they pounce on it, particularly when
involves a person of color. And you know, one of

(01:26:37):
the sad things is is that nobody will talk about
the elephant in the room. And you know what that
elephant is, Sean, You tell me the elephant in the
room is the fact that people, particularly some of these
young people, they just don't obey the law. The fact
that what is a young person with a gun doing

(01:26:59):
out at one or two o'clock in the morning. Where
are their parents? Where's the file? That to me is
one of the saddest things that happened in the Toledo case.
This young man is thirteen years old. I viewed children.
I really do believe every man, woman, and child is
a creature of God. The difference with the human experiences.

(01:27:19):
We have a propensity for good and a propensity of evil.
But especially young people, they need to be protected by
their parents. I don't know about you. When I was
raising my kids when they were younger, I was a
complete I plead guilty. I was a helicopter parent. I
knew where they were every second, every minute, every hour
of every day. And when they got cell phones, I
jacked their phones and I knew exactly where they were

(01:27:42):
and if they moved, I knew exactly where they were going.
And maybe that sounds by the way. They weren't their phones,
they were my phones. I gave them phones. I owned
the phone, so it was my phone that they were using.
Just for those people that would say you're spying on
your children, no, it's you can keep track of where
they are. Great technology, actually, And you know, it's sad

(01:28:04):
when I hear that a kid is thirteen years old
hanging out with a twenty one year old that's already
been found guilty of a gun offense charge with a
gun offense rather and as gun residue on his fingers,
It breaks my heart. I mean, all the talent that
this kid was born with will never know what talent

(01:28:25):
that kid had, what potential that child had, and he's gone.
And it happens every day. And I've been scrolling the
names of kids like Adam Toledo for years on my
program saying why don't we know their names? Because what
we can't it doesn't become politically charged it's sad, and
it's you know, we can we can make it that

(01:28:46):
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