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with us. Happy Friday, and welcome to the Sean Hannity Show.
We've got a pretty cool thing that we're going to
be doing with Fox News in the days ahead, something
I've resisted almost my entire career. It's not going to
be a whole show thing, but I think it's going

(00:42):
to be something that you all like. Today has been
a phenomenal day for the country and for the President
of the United States. I told you when I got
back from vacation, I didn't watch a lot of news,
but my observations were very, very keen. It's it's transparent.

(01:06):
This is not I'm not reinventing the wheel here, but
I just came to the conclusion that something very evident
is happening within the country, and it's something we're gonna
have to get used to, and it's something that is
going to have to be dealt with, and that is
that there's You've got these forces that wake up every
single second, every single hour, minute of every single day,

(01:31):
and all they care about is destroying the President of
the United States. That's it. And you can see it
most obviously with the media. It is twenty four seven.
I mean Jill Abramson and the New York Times basically
saying they're reporting is abusively biased against Donald Trump. That
pretty much speaks volumes, right. But it's every cable network

(01:53):
except our little oasis on Fox Hannity nine Eastern. And
what you're gonna see is never ending investigations. You know
the things that we heard, and I'm going to play
all of this for you in the course of the program.
But you know, we have a new member of Congress.
We are going to impeague them effort, meaning Donald Trump.

(02:16):
You've got Alexandria Acasio Cortez proposing, get this, a seventy
percent tax rate on the super wealthy. She wants to
fund what is known as a New Green Deal, that's
what they're calling it. This is the single most radical
group of people ever elected in United States history, you're

(02:40):
watching the beginnings of socialism rising in America. And what
that means. I'll give you an example. If you live
in New York City or state, well, that means seventy
percent of every dime you make would go to the
federal government. Then another ten percent goes to the state government,
and then another four percent. If you work in New

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York City and you live outside the city, will live
in this another four percent for them. Then if you
live outside the city and counties like Westchester, Nassau or
Suffolk County the highest property taxed counties in the entire country.
So we start the day with something the media wasn't expecting,

(03:22):
and that is that, oh, manufacturing under Donald Trump is
the best it has now been in twenty years. In
two decades, manufacturing created two hundred and eighty four thousand jobs.
In twenty eighteen, were now up to four hundred thousand
new manufacturing jobs. And if you go back to the
Obama years, those were the jobs Obama said we're never

(03:46):
coming back. Well, if you live in western Pennsylvania, if
you'll live in Ohio and Michigan, and you'll live in Wisconsin,
and you took the chance Donald Trump said, well, you know,
what have you got to lose, Well, you had a
lot to gain. And it's even better than that. The
president now since he's been elected, we're talking about five

(04:10):
million new jobs for this country. Five million the president.
We know in one of his top accomplishments of last
year that nobody in the media talks about. We produce
more energy, more oil than both Saudi Arabia and Russia.
And for the first time in decades and decades, the
United States is energy independent. Now that's good for national security.

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But it's even going to be better when these pipelines
are finished, when anwar is opened up, because those are
going to be literally millions of high paying career jobs
that are available for Americans. I mean, and it's the
lifeblood of our economy. But construction is holding, manufacturing is up,
healthcare is up, retail is up, and three hundred and

(04:56):
twelve thousand new jobs created just in December alone, not
number that was predicted by anybody with all the talk
about the stock market and it's more recent decline, precipitous decline.
But there, you know, with the balanced off by the
fact they never raised interest rates during the Obama years,
the Fed was instrumental in helping prop up the economy

(05:18):
for Barack Obama, and they never put the pressure of
higher interest rates on his economy because it was doing
so poorly. But you're still up thirty percent from where
we were. I'm not a big stock market person. Then
you have all the record low unemployment where Hispanic unemployment
in America is now hit another record low in December.

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We have record low unemployment rates for African Americans, Hispanic Americans,
Asian Americans, women in the workplace, youth unemployment, the American people.
What was twenty sixteen amount? It wasn't about Russia, but
it was out the thirteen million additional Americans on food

(06:04):
stamps under Obama. It was about the eight million additional
Americans in poverty under Obama. That's what it was abound.
So we got three hundred twelve thousand new jobs for
the month of December alone, all sectors benefiting. The dao's
skyrockets and rebounds as a result of all this. And

(06:24):
this is where it gets fascinating, because the Democrats never
told you what they really were planning to do. I said, look,
you gotta pay attention, because they do have an agenda.
There are a couple of people like Maxie Waters that
would go out and say, impeach forty five and peach
forty five. They've always wanted to impeach. Nancy Pelosi wants

(06:46):
to raise taxes. They're in the process of doing such.
And they want to raise taxes. If you look at
the new rising star in the Democratic Party, Acasio Cortez, again,
she wants a se f andd percent top marginal tax rate.
With the economy booming and you have a seventy percent taxes,

(07:06):
what do you think people that make money, you're going
to do well. They're going to do the opposite of
what Donald Trump has been incentivizing to do, which is
to invest in cities and towns and revitalize the economies
in places like Pittsburgh and Wisconsin, in Michigan and Ohio.
That's all going to go away because well, maybe they're

(07:29):
rich people, and maybe Democrats want to create this this jealousy,
this divide. But the divide is going to be, oh,
we're taking our money and we're going to invest where
we have a better rate of return. So that I mean,
she says this on sixty minutes. Now, I predicted and
one of the reasons we started Hannity Watch is I

(07:53):
predicted that the Democratic Party is going to lose it.
The Democratic Party is not going to be promoting policies
that will benefit the men and women in this country.
And I kept saying to you, well, we're gonna have
Hannity Watch on the economy. We're gonna have Hannity Watch
on media hypocrisy. We're gonna have Hannity Watch on democratic hypocrisy.

(08:16):
Remember they all four years ago they were willing to
build a wall in our southern border. We'll have Hannity
Watch on indoctrination on college campuses. We'll have Hannity Watch
on Hollywood hypocrisy and their radical agenda that they like
to push through movies in the public domain. We're gonna
have Hannity Watch on the border, Hannity Watch on the

(08:38):
rise of socialism. And it's all going to be filtered
through a simple question. Is this in your best interests?
Is this in your family's best interests? Is this in
the United States of America's best interests. So we've got
a new Congress. I guess it was their day to
be giddy yesterday, and they're all flapping up the new

(09:02):
the new power trip that they're on and they lost it.
I told you in a hundred days, one hundred days,
the entire country is going to know just how radical
this new Congress is. Let's start cut one Rashida Clabe

(09:25):
and that's how you say her last name. I think so,
and we are going to impeach the m effort. Impeach
the m effort talking about the President of the United States.
People love you, and you win, and when your son
looks at you and says, Mama, look you won. Bullies
don't win. And I said, baby, they don't because we're

(09:47):
gonna go in there. We're gonna impeach the other. Well,
impeach the m effort. Okay, then let's take it to
alexandrias Acasio Cortez proposing the seventy percent tax rate. Again,
that's not something they ran on. This is what she said.
There's an element where, yeah, people are going to have

(10:09):
to start paying their fair share and taxes. Do you
have a specific on the tax rate? You know, you
look at our tax rates back in the sixties, and
when you have a progressive tax rate system, your tax rate,
you know, let's say from zero to seventy five thousand
dollars may be ten percent or fifteen percents, etc. But
once you get to like the tippy tops on your

(10:32):
ten million dollars, sometimes you see tax rates as high
as sixty or seventy percent. That doesn't mean all ten
million dollars or taxed at an extremely high rate, but
it means that as you climb up this ladder, you
should be contributing more. You should be contributing more. Okay,

(10:52):
what does she think? Though? I've never got a job,
and I know many of you listen to the program
for many years. You know my jobs. Bus I was
a paper boy at a dishwasher at twelve, cook at thirteen,
bus boy, waiter, bartender, house painting, contractor wallpaper, hanger, frame
or roofer, ship building. I mean, I did it all,

(11:16):
and it was two decades of my life. I actually
loved it in many ways. When I worked in restaurants
or I did remodeling work, I kind of became and
involved into a finished specialist. I had a good eye
for detail, and I never worked for a poor person.
They were not able to afford the services that I'm provided.

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I never got a tip in a restaurant from a
poor person and the idea, I know, I got to
a steakhouse in New York. I go to Del Frisco
as a ruth truth. And these guys work really hard
serving customers in the hopes that they're going to get
good tips so that they can pay their rent and
pay their car payments. So now she wants to confiscate

(12:03):
what would be the equivalent if you lived in her
state of New York of eighty five cents of every dollar. Well,
that means the rich people won't be buying boats that
they like recreationally, They're not going to be taking expensive
vacations anymore, and they probably won't be investing their money
in America anymore because it won't be profitable for them. Okay,

(12:25):
how does that impact people in the restaurant business, the
hotel business, the travel industry, the building business. If they're
going to pull their money back, that is the rise
of socialism. That is the false promise of government saving
you from every aspect of life. Then you got Nina Turner,

(12:46):
another new member of Congress. Republicans need to change the
presidents of the United States diapers. Here we go. President.
He's a whiner. He whines like a baby. He's a
liar and he's a whiner, and I think what needs
to happen is the Republicans have got to go over
there and change the president's diapers done. That's what this
is coming down to, so that he can cut it out,
so that the grown folks, the big girls, and the

(13:08):
big boys can go around the table, sit around the
table and do what is necessary for this government. Number
one is to do away with this shutdown so that
those eight hundred thousand folks that you talked about, some
of those are our neighbors, our relatives, our friends, and
even strangers who definitely need their paychecks that they are
not getting. So the winding and the line must stop.

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That's my memo to the president. Okay, former, by the way,
Congresswoman eight hundred nine four one, Sean, if you want
to be a part of the program, we have more insanity.
But the amazing thing about today is Trump took it over.
The amazing thing about today is Trump has the better
argument on the government shutdown and on the issue of

(13:50):
border security. The President said, well, if we have to,
we'll keep the government shut for a year whatever it's
gonna take to stop drugs from being brought into this country,
drug trafficking, human trafficking, the dangers of potential terrorists crossing
our borders, the danger of gang members and cartels crossing

(14:12):
our borders, and having a legal immigration system that keeps
every American secure. Now the wall can have a door,
it can be a felt high fence that people cam climb.
But I don't see the President giving in. And while
Nancy Pelosi can say she's only going to offer a dollar,
that deal's never gonna happen. Nor is Mitch McConnell going

(14:35):
to bring up any of their bills in the Senate.
So it's very different than the way the media is
portraying things. They don't have the juice to get anything
done unless they go through the president. And the president
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Sean Hannity Show, eight hundred and nine for one Shaun
Tolfrey telephone number. You want to be a part of this,
this extravaganza. This is one of these things. Everything the

(16:02):
Democrats are doing is not They don't have the juice
and the power to go anywhere. Now if the President
decides that because of national security, and this just crossed
the wires because the President just said it in his
recent press conference, and I think the President is right
about this. He is now considering declaring a national emergency

(16:26):
to build the border wall. I can do it if
I want, he said during the press conference in the
Rose Garden. We can call a national emergency and do
it very quickly. Well at that point, I would believe
that makes the military defense budget money available. But think
about it, it is a national security issue. Ninety percent

(16:47):
of the heroine coming into America. And you know what's
happening with the opioid crisis. These kids are getting addicted
and even older people to vike it in and percocet, oxyconton,
and then they can't afford eighty dollars a pill on
the street if they can't get a doctor to prescribe
it for them, and then they're you know, they seek
other forms to fill their addiction than they're getting ten

(17:08):
dollars bags a heroin that are often laced with fentnol
and that results in a death sentence for you know,
over one hundred thousand Americans every year. That's why this
is a national security epidemic. That's not your heartbeat. Troubled.

(17:41):
Join Sean's army on Twitter. Where we get back to
conservative values. All right? The President considering declaring a national
emergency as it comes to the border. Democrats are losing
their mind. And all of this is predictable. You know,
what did I say they're doing. I said they want

(18:02):
their crumbs back, They want impeachment. Right, they moved on impeachment.
They want to get rid of the electoral college. Now
that's part of their legislation. Now they their House Democrats
announced a bill to force Donald Trump to disclose his
tax returns. That's not gonna happen legislatively period. There's going
to be endless investigation. And the Democrats, those seemingly seem fearful.

(18:28):
And I have to wonder because when Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi,
and Gerald Nadler all simultaneously are saying, well, we don't
really see a path to impeachment, it sounds like they've
gotten either insight or advice about going down that road.

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Now we pick presidents. We have a process for electing presidents,
and they're called elections. And when the American people decide
on a president, even in spite of all the forces
that were again the president, including the deep state, including
Russian lies and interference that were paid for by the
president's opponent by literally trying to delegitimize him two full

(19:12):
years and now doubling down on one investigation after another.
None of these things are helping the American people, and
yet the president has successfully navigated. Look at what we had.
What I discussed with Mike Pompeo. Last night with Mike Pompeo,
we discussed, Oh, North Korea, little rocketman, fire and fury.
No more rockets fired every other weekend over Japan, not

(19:36):
threatening Guam, not threatening the entire Korean peninsula. Talks now
of denuclearization. That's a win for the president. Is supposed
to be soon to be announced, a second summit meeting
with Kim Jong un. Then you've got China, where the
President has been negotiating hard. It has had probably some

(19:58):
impact on the markets, but were still up thirty percent
from when the president took over. That'd be a fifteen
return a year if you're averaging the two years that
he's been elected, So not a bad return. Although I'm
not the biggest fan of the stock market, I always
feel a need to tell you that I don't trust it,
and I think a certain amount of it is gambling.

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But putting that aside, it's still up. It's still a
considerable return, especially if you're considering like something safe like
a treasury or immuni bond or whatever else people buy.
Then you've got the president keeping his promises with the
largest tax cuts in history. Then the president has gotten
rid of more burdensome regulation than any other president in

(20:40):
history combined. And he did it in a year that
has opened the door where now these pipelines, the code
of pipeline, the Keystone access pipeline are being built. Now.
America in the last year has become the number one
crude oil producer in the entire world, passing Russia and

(21:03):
Saudi Arabia. And we've only begun the process because we're
only talking about crude oil and we haven't even touched anwar,
because they've got to get their equipment and build out
their wells in anwar, which we're told has decades worth
of oil. We now record low oil prices. I mean,
it was getting up to eighty five dollars a barrel

(21:24):
again and just dumped down to the forties. And maybe
some oil companies don't like it, but too bad for them.
They're also going to have future competition because all the
natural gas resources we have and so all of these
things are happening under the president. Presidents put two originalists
on the Supreme Court, two names he gave us before
he was elected. And the President has kept his promises

(21:48):
on every major, big issue and didn't have a lot
of help and support from some Republicans that just don't
know how to handle working at the speed of Trump. Now,
we did get rid of the mandate as it relates
to Obamacare, we still have more work to do on healthcare.
The president wants free market solutions. Now. The President is

(22:09):
doing what he was elected to do, and that is
to fight to secure our southern borders. We know what's
going on down there. I've been there now for years.
I have reported up close and personal all of the
problems we have at our southern border. Our producer Linda
and Sarah Carter put together a nonprofit documentary about the

(22:33):
opioid crisis. Tell me if I'm wrong. We're losing over
one hundred thousand people a year. If I remember from
the documentary, right, because the opioid addiction about Yeah, it's
one hundred and seventy two people a day. Yeah, I
mean one hundred and seventy two American people a Day's
and a lot of them are kids. And a lot
of the drugs, especially the heroine, and a lot of

(22:54):
the heroine now laced with fent and all that three
equivalent grains of fent and all the size of three
grains assault can kill a two hundred and fifty pound
man that's showing up all across the country. The epidemic
is destroying small towns in big cities. Ninety percent of
that heroin after people transition from you know, these pain

(23:14):
pills that they can't afford at eighty bucks a pop
on the street, then they get in ten dollar bags
at heroine, you know, made in these god forsaken places.
I mean, watch the show Trade or Drugs Inc. On
that geo and Showtime has the Trade show, and you're
going to see exactly what's going on at the southern border.
Then there's human trafficking. Then of course there's potential terrorists

(23:36):
that want to cross the border. Then there's criminals that
want to cross the border, gang members that want to
cross the border. Now I acknowledge that ninety nine percent
of probably good people that want a better life for
themselves and their families, But I'm not worried about them,
and if they want to come in, they're just going
to have to follow the process like officers Singh's family did,
and he was killed by an illegal that was in

(23:58):
the criminal justice city them beyond violating our immigration laws,
and of course sanctuary laws protected him, and that allowed
him to go out and kill an innocent person, a
father of a five month old kid. And it's not
the first time we had were a dozen Americans. It
was an article yesterday. That's what they're living through. So

(24:20):
you know, when you see the president fight, to me,
this was his day. To me, this was the president
and the power of the bully pulpit to me. Today,
the President saying, well, if I have to, I'm going
to declare a national emergency, which will then empower him
to build a wall, and that would that the moneies

(24:43):
are already dedicated because it's a national emergency. And asked
if he would do it, he said, we can do it.
I haven't done it. I may do it. And the
government has been partially shut down for fourteen days and
most Americans don't particularly care. Now, I do care about
people that have mortgages and rents to pay and car payments,

(25:04):
and you know, they shouldn't be caught in as political
cross fire. And even though they're not working, I suggest
that they get their back pay, because, through no fault
of their own, they probably all want to go to work,
although I'm sure they're enjoying their time off, but you know,
they need the money, and if the government was open,
they'd work with That's something that could be done fairly expeditiously.

(25:26):
The Democrats show up in Congress and their new membership
is referring to the President as a m effer and
we're going to impeach this effer. When Nancy Pelosi is
asked about it, she's fine with it. Apparently doesn't have
a problem with her new colleagues. She didn't win by
a particularly large margin. Why did she win by a
two vote margin and then like three people change their

(25:48):
vote or something, So she's not in the strongest position
at all with the new members of Congress. They're going
to be pulling her to the hard left. You got
never trumpers like Rick Wilson out there slamming the border
as a con for Trump's you know what, Route ten
tooth basses whatever he's I mean, it's just insanity. So

(26:11):
is she right Rick about the president's motives here. This
wall is just to keep his base attention. The wall
has always been a con for Donald Trump's credulous, rube
ten tooth base. The wall has always been a scam.
It has always been a lie. Nothing about the wall
has ever been real, and Donald Trump knows it. He

(26:32):
is a guy who has a long history in his
career as being a con man. He is conning these
people who believe he's going to build a two thousand mile,
thirty foot high concrete wall with laser moats and alligators
in it. It's just crazy. It always has been. I
wonder how many times Rick has ever been down there,

(26:54):
and he's one of the never trumpers who's been against
the president from the beginning. Look, none of what the
same matter to me. It just doesn't, because if the
President continues on foreign policy. Let's go back. I mentioned
the President keeping his promise confronting fire Fury, little Rocketman.
We get hostages back, we get remains of our soldiers

(27:17):
from the fifties back. We get a halt to the
missile testing programs of Kim Jong un and talk of
denuclearization on China. The president firmly battling a trade deficit
that's turning this country. The trade barriers that have been
put up by the Chinese. Well, now they're talking about
removing the tariffs on American automobiles and cars. Now they're

(27:40):
talking about importing American agricultural products like soybeans and broccoli
and all the things that our farmers are making. Then
the President keeps his promise as it relates to the
embassy move to Jerusalem. And then the President keeps his
promise and gets us out of that horrific Iranian deal
and has put a stranglehold now on the Iranian economy,

(28:02):
which will bear dividends in the end. And whether you
like his position on Syria and Afghanistan and the timing
of the pullout, and President hasn't given a timing deadline
of any kind, just saying that he doesn't want to
stay in these countries forever. And we can provide. Now,
we have to be careful because the nine to eleven

(28:24):
Commissioner report always said they were at war with us.
We weren't at war with them. You don't want the
re emergence of al Qaeda. The Isis Caliphate has been
brought to its knees because of the president's change and
shift in military policy, which is to win wars and
remove the absurd rules of engagement that were in place

(28:45):
under the Obama years. And I'm watching Chuck Schumer and company,
and I'm thinking, you know, this is pretty amazing stuff.
They thought they were going to roll over Trump. I
really believe, I personally believe that one way or the other,
the President is going to get this wall money and
get the wall built. Ideally, he's doing it the right way.

(29:07):
You know. The first thing would happen, and he mentioned
this at his press conference, will play it later, is
that there's going to be some judge shopping that goes on.
They'll file a lawsuit somewhere in California where we know
the appeal will go directly to the Ninth Circuit. The
Ninth Circuit, even with its history or being overturned, you
know some eighty percent of the time, it just it

(29:28):
slows down the process that can take years. So the
President is anticipating such and he's waiting. He got some
congressman repeatedly comparing the president, wasn't this the congressman I
was talking about this last night, that thought that if
we had too many soldiers on Guam that we tipped
the island over. Who is that, Congressman, Yeah, Hank Johnson, Right, Okay,

(29:52):
Now he's using analogies comparing the president to Hitler. Listen
to this. Americans elected an authoritarian, anti immigrant, racist strong
man to the nation's highest office, Donald Trump and his
make America Great Again followers, who want to return America

(30:13):
back to a time when white men and white privilege
were unchallenged and where minorities and women were in their place.
Hitler led a political movement of anti education, anti science
racists who focused on nationalism, with rhetoric about making Germany

(30:34):
a strong country which would result in prosperity for the
German people who were hurting due to the disruption caused
by the Wall Street Crash of nineteen twenty nine and
the effects of the Great Depression. Familiar the America is
gonna know in huge numbers, mark my words, that the

(30:58):
House of Representatives now controlled by the hard radical hate
Trump left. But with that said, they've got some questions,
They've got an answer. They've got constituents that I'm sure
want border security. They probably in their districts have issues

(31:19):
involving opioids and drugs that are destroying families, and a
lot of those drugs where they coming from the southern border.
They probably you have constituents that maybe don't have the
job opportunities at the pay levels that people want, in
part because of the cheap labor that crosses our southern border.

(31:39):
Maybe they want some controls over that because that's impacting
a lot of communities. So the President is saying, well,
if it takes a year, I hope it doesn't. I
hope I can get it solved quickly. I was here
all through Christmas and New Year's waiting to negotiate. They weren't.
They were in Hawaii and the Bahamas. And the President

(32:00):
came out today met them all and said, all right,
let's do a deal. Um, what do you have there, Linda,
you're talking about you have Hank Johnson talking about the
cap sizing. It's from twenty ten, if you want to
remind your audience. He really didn't say this thing. No, No,
I have the tape. I just found it. He said, So,
this guy, Hank Johnson, said that if we put too
many trips on the troops on Guam, that the island

(32:23):
is going to tip over. He said that here we
have the tape of it. Yeah, my fear is that
the whole island will become so overly populated that it
will tip over and and cap size. We don't anticipate

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that they Oh man, you can't make this up. Wow. Anyway,
So the president today, you know, the president's approval rating
hasn't shifted much. Think about this president's approval rating. His
stayed solid. The American people have voted for him, love

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that he fights. They elected him to fight. They elected
a disruptor, they elected a iconoclass. The only thing you
hear from some Republicans Mitt Romney's upsetting over his style. Oh,
Mitt Romney style didn't get elected. Mitt Romney could have
won in twenty twelve. These are all conservative solutions that

(33:28):
he's implementing, things I've advocated thirty years in my career.
Schumer came out and said that the meeting, from his
point of view and speaker Pelosis, was contentious. He also said,
you said in the meeting, this is him quoting you.
I just want to check that the shutdown could go
on for months or even a year or longer. Did
you say that is where we are? Absolutely? I said

(33:52):
that I don't think it will but I am prepared,
and I think I can speak for Republicans in the
House and Republicans in the Senate. They feel very strongly
about having a safe country, having a border that makes sense.
Without borders. I've said it many times, we don't have
a country. I hope it doesn't go on even beyond

(34:13):
a few more days. It really could open very quickly.
I told them at bring who you want. We have
three people. You can ideally bring three, but you can
bring six, you can bring nine, you can bring twelve,
and they're going to be working over the weekend. I
think it may have been somewhat contentious, but I think
it was very productive. I have to say that, and

(34:33):
I think he said that too. All right. That was
the President in the Rose Garden after meeting with Democratic leaders,
day fourteen of the government partial shutdown continues and the
battle over the border funding as well. Nancy Pelosi thinking
she's being really, really, really strong. I'll give him a penny.

(34:53):
You're not getting your wall, miss the president, all right,
So she's dug in the President also saying that he
might declare national security emergency down to the border. And
you know the behavior of Pelosi in Schumer and their
need now to tend to the radical element that has

(35:13):
been elected in you know, in the Congress as a
real problem for them. That's a very big problem. And
the funny thing is is all these Democrats we've played
for you many times or on record saying that they
want the border wall. If you go back to the
end of last year, what do you say to the

(35:34):
twelve Americans that were killed by illegal immigrants in twenty
eighteen alone, Or what do you say to the family
of officer saying a legal immigrant who was a five
month old son that will never see his father again,
Or what do you say to the families that have
been ravaged by the opioid epidemic and heroin addictions that

(35:57):
have been going on, and fentanyl problems, ninety percent of
which is coming across our southern border. What do you
say about those people that you know, the government aiding
and abetting further criminality when illegal immigrants create crimes and
then they're protected by so called sanctuary cities and states
that refuse to work with ice and follow the legal

(36:22):
process and the national immigration laws, and that is to
hand them over to officials when their time is served
in jail for whatever local crimes they may have committed,
sometimes violence, sometimes not, and that these people then go
on to commit other crimes, which seems to be the case,
and an officers saying, and the person this individuals involved

(36:43):
in the criminal justice system. You know, what do we say?
Democrats were never going to identify what they really wanted
to run on. Well, now they're identifying it. They've already
filed articles of impeachment. They want endless investigations. Now they're
trying to pass a law. They get Trump's tax returns
ten years and they're going into his family foundation. Then

(37:03):
they're going to stay on Russia, you know, add nauseam
for the next fifty years if they can. It's nothing
that they're proposing that would benefit the American people. They
want to get rid of the electoral college. They want
to make DC another state that they're proposing a Casio
tz she's talking about a seventy percent federal income tax rate.

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And by the way, if you live in California New York,
that's eighty five percent. That's eighty five cents of every dollar.
But the bottom line is, we have a crisis at
our border. It's not the majority of people that crossed
the border. Many of them risked everything. They risk their lives.
They crossed the border in the hopes of a better
life for them, their family, their children. But in light

(37:49):
of the drugs that have been crossing the border, infiltrating
small towns in big cities across America, in spite of
the human trafficking aspects, in spite of terrorists even being arrested,
and people with terrorist ties being arrested working their way
in with the general population of people that just want
a better life. Well, that's a threat to every American

(38:10):
and that is a national security issue, as is gang
members and cartel members that have been literally profiting off
the demise of many Americans by bringing their drugs and
expanding it through every part of the country. And wall's work.

(38:33):
Barriers work where we put them up, they're effective anyway.
Joining us now, I'm glad you're with us. Our two
eight hundred nine for one. Shaun is a number is
Former Director of ICE Tom Holman is with us. How
are you, sir? Well, I'm a little scared now listen
to you for last ten minutes. I think it's incredible
when you think about what's going on in this country.

(38:53):
You know, I hope your listeners are listening. I hope
they start making phone calls. Well, I mean I hope
they start making phone calls. I know that we're going
to talk to Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows later in
the program today, and they put out a new ad.
Will play that for people, but they want the country
to know. The amazing thing, though, Tom, is that the
Democrats that I'm mentioning, that would be Obama, that would

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be Hillary, that'd be Chuck Schumer, Durban others, they sounded
more like Trump and their desire to build a wall
than Trump does. So it seems the only reason that
they're against it now is because they don't want the
credit going to the president. I guess. I mean, I
can't think of any other reason. Absolutely, that is absolutely

(39:37):
you are accurate. That's what I've been saying for a
few weeks. This isn't about order security. This is about
not giving this president a win for her first year.
Under the first year of the President Trump and I
was Director of Vice illegal immigration on the Southwest borders
at a forty five year law. That's not coincidence. That's
because he sent a strong message he wanted to forced
laws and on build a wall. It wasn't until they

(39:58):
became aware. While the Democrat it's not gonna let them
build water, they don't push back on it. They sent
Democrats want to expand to sanctuary cities. The Democrats want
to abolish ice when they hear all this stuff that
in places more people to come to this country, which
she said at bank rolls crimal organizations, and bank rolls
are criminal cartels. If we're going to save lives and
we're going to prevent again, let's assume for a minute

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that ninety nine percent of the people that want to
cross into the country illegally or people that just want
a better life, they don't want to go through the
legal process. Let's assume it's but the other one percent
of the drug cartels, the ms at thirteen gangs, the
people that have terror related ties, the traffickers and human traffickers,

(40:43):
drug traffickers. Well, you know, we keep losing Americans. Some
Americans are dying as a result of open borders. And
I think there are some things tom and life that
are worth fighting for, and I think this is one
of them. And I think it's a big reason why
the president got elected. And I think the President needs
to hold firm here and guarantee that he gets that money.

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Now he's saying he can get in other ways if
he declares a national emergency. But then I think we
have a legal court battle, and I think Congress should
step up and do what's in the national interest, national
security interests of the United States. Absolutely. I talked to
the President I don't know about six days ago, and

(41:27):
he's I think he's going to stick by his guns.
And the other night on Fox or New shows. On
the other night, I preaud with the President what he
needs to do. Sean, he needs to go around Nancy
and Chuck at this point and speak directly to the
American people. The Secretary try to give them a briefing
a few days ago, and what exactly the numbers look like,
Secretary Nielsens are coming across the border, how many King members,

(41:49):
Secretary Nielsen the President, I'll have a primetime news conference
with America. Put those charts up there, saying, okay, MS
thirteen arrest on the sun board have double which they
have a one hundred and eighty three percent of opioids
a fat knock that is that seventy two thousand people
type this year from is increase one hundred and eighty
three percent. They rest over seven thousand people coming across

(42:09):
the board. They're already criminals, hundreds of people that are
known suspected terrorists. Put the charts out there and showing
the American people what really going on Southwest board. Then
the second part show them the charts or here's how
many people enter to Yuma without offense and here's a
drafted declinans we put offense up to it for San
Diego Yuma, l Passo. Show the American people that the
Democrats were lying to you. There is disease come across

(42:32):
the border. There's criminals coming across that border. And every
place they built a barrier, it has worked. Because the
Democrats like saying they're ineffective, they're in moral It works
one percent of time wherever they built it in the disease,
just disease. Our director of we got with hundreds of
TB cases. There's one case I remember, Sean, there's there's
an adult with TV it was drug resistant. We spent

(42:54):
hundreds of thousands of dollars kept in detained for a
month at a time, working with the CDC and the
Department of Health trying to find out how to treat
this gentleman. Now what would have happened if he would
have got out into society. And so those that get
around the border troll, who steak by the bordershrop border troll.
There is no wall, that's what's coming into this country.
So I hope the president speaks to American people, gives

(43:15):
them the truth and numbers on the border becauld. I
even think a lot of Democrat voters don't they really
know what's going on there and they can get the
truth from disadministration. I think even may are going to
be concerned what's going on that border, and hopefully they
will call the representative to say get that border secure.
Let me ask you about because we've now seen recent

(43:36):
incidents wondering the caravan and one on New Year's Eve
where ICE agents were being pelted with rocks and bottles
and people trying to break down the wall to get
into the country illegally. And you had a you were
being grilled by Senator Kamala Harris of California on the issue,

(43:57):
and she tried to say that there's a perception problem
them with Ice being akin to the kool Klux Klan.
Let me play it for you. The clan was what
we would call today a domestic terrorist group. Why why
why would we call them domestic terrorist group? Because they
tried to use fear and force to change political environment?

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And what was the motivation for the use of fear
enforce based on race and ethnicity? Right? Are you aware
of the perception of many about how the power and
the discretion at ICE is being used to enforce the laws?
And do you see any parallels. I do not see
any parallels between I'm talking about and agents. I'm talking

(44:42):
about perception. I do not see a parallel between what
is constitutionally mandated as as it relates to enforcing the law.
Are you aware that there's a perception Are you aware
that there's a perception ICE in the same category as
the KKK. Is that where you're asking me, I don't
even know what to say. Your your agents put their

(45:02):
lives on the line enforce the laws, and she's she's
saying that there's a perception between ICE enforcing our nation's
laws on anybody who's breaking them with the Ku Klux Klan.
What were you thinking? Well, look, when I saw that
the bottom line is if there's a bad perception, there's
a perception being pushed by the Democratic leadership, is being

(45:25):
pushed by the left media. Because all ICES does every
day the minimum of ICE. They protect, They put themselves
in harm's way to enforce the laws enacted by Congress.
So if ICE is doing a wrong thing, then if
the Congress through the wrong thing when they enacted these laws,
I USU isn't making this stuff up. ICE is enforcing
the laws enacted by Congress. But what her You gotta

(45:47):
remember the things she said about ICE, Nancy Close. She
made a comment on ours director saying that ICE agents
raw terro writing innocent immigrant communities. I used, doesn't arrest
innocent people. I used to arrest people who violate the
laws of this country. So the perception they want to
push out there is that ICE is a deportation for us.
They're they're separating families all over the nation. All you
gotta do is look at this year's numbers. ICE released

(46:09):
a few weeks ago eighty seven. If everybody ICE arrested
in the interior United States had a criminal convisition or
painting criminal charges, that's nine out every ten. That's prioritization.
But did you never hear the last talking about that?
So I said the other day, I arrested in the
in the United States last year one hundred and thirty
eight thousand criminals. I want you to hold that thought

(46:32):
there and wanted to give them work. All right, Tom
Holman is with us, former director of ICE. I just
want you to give the numbers so people understand what
we're talking about it and how many people were talking about.
Tom Holman is the former director of ICE. I just
spout the numbers. Let people understand what we're talking about. Drugs,

(46:53):
arrests of gang members and cartel members, and firearms and
potential alleged terrorists or people would ties the terrorists. What
do we got coming across the border, not the ninety
eight percent that want a better life. Look if we
look at look with the boer Chrochs recently year stats
the rest of the MS thirteen members double. If you

(47:16):
look at the criminals that now Boracho arrested almost seven
and legal aliens tower, they were already criminals. You already
had serious criminal convictions and that's just once they caught.
We don't how many entered. And if you look at
you know fentanale. We know that fentanale is a dangerous
issue in this country. There's seventy two thousand overdose deaths
last year. The seizure of fentanale's double between the ports
of entry. So it's not just about illeal immigration, it's

(47:38):
about it's about drugs. And to put this perspective, Ice
this year arrested one hundred and thirty eight thousand illegal
aliens that were either had already had a criminal conviction
or painting series charges. That's one hundred and thirty eight
thousand people. They just didn't miraculously a peer here in

(47:58):
Nited States. They enter the country illegally, and you said
it yourself, And we don't even know what that real
number is going to be because when Saint Stuary City started,
Ice was kicked out jails York, kicked out of Alida County,
San Francisco, Rikers Island, for God's sakes, where we used
to wrest a lot of dangerous illegal aliens that were
painting criminal charges. But when they kicked Ice out of
the jails, now Ice, when they run fingerprint, if you

(48:21):
get arrested, they run your finger springer. Princes who Ncica
pounces against the HS databases and Ice nil up there
in the jail, so we send a detainer. But when
Ice used to be in the jails, we would identify
those foreign born nationals. They had no fingerprint records, so
they can be fingered from Now legally, you can't do that.
You can't do that in California, can you. No, We've

(48:42):
been kicked out of California jails. Look, we got kicked
out of Rikers Island jail in New York City, but
California has been part of the worst they have. No
California Sheriff's Association joined me and asking Governor Brown not
to find the Saint Stuary lob but he did it
anyw Well, we heard, but you heard from the sheriff
out where officers sing was killed, and he said, thank
Stuary City laws helped this unfortunately tragedy murder. All right,

(49:06):
thank you, Tom Holman. More Hannity, last Big Government. This

(49:26):
is the Sean Hannity Show, All right, twenty five now
until the top of the hour. Toll free telephone numbers
eight hundred and nine for one Sean. There are things
that are worth fighting for. There are battles worth worth
engaging in I don't know why there is this mysterious

(49:48):
fear and reluctance and resistance and concern and worry and
anxiety among Republicans when they take a stand for speci
cific promises they have made, because I think it's just
the opposite will happen what they think is gonna happen. Well,

(50:08):
we can't shut down the government. We're gonna be blamed
for it. Well, they send that in twenty thirteen going
into twenty fourteen when Ted Cruz took a stand on
Obamacare and said, well, we have the power of the
purse constitutionally, and we can shut down. We could literally
defund Obamacare if only the Republicans had the spine in

(50:30):
a backbone to fight to keep that promise. Now, we
made progress or in the negotiations on the President's tax
cut bill, and we got rid of the individual mandate.
And that's a good start because that takes out a
big chunk or big heart of the Obamacare premise, which
was keep your doctor, keep your plan, and save less.
But there is a real fear. I don't know why

(50:54):
politicians don't associate keeping a promise, fighting for what you
said you would do, and the electoral success that would
inevitably follow now and by the way, maybe you do
lose your job. Is it worth that much to you
that you're willing to sell out compromise? Does the word congressman, senator,

(51:17):
governor is it that important to you? You know, this
is not a complicated issue when it comes to the border.
It really is not. And what you're watching President Trump
is something that we don't see in a lot of
politicians I'm watching. I don't tweet and do my Instagram

(51:37):
or my Facebook, but I'm very aware of what is
in my timelines, and I'm very aware when people call me,
and I'm very aware when I meet people, and I'm
very in tune to what people are saying and thinking.
And everybody that I know that's a conservative is watching
the president in this fight, and they're saying, keep it up,
don't give in. They don't want people to give it

(52:00):
because we've had this problem forever. It's obvious the Democrats
have supported all of this five years ago. Are only
playing politics because they don't want the President to get
the win. It's should it be about winning and losing
Republican Democrat, conservative liberal, or should it be about well,

(52:20):
what is in the best interests of the American people.
And this is what I keep telling you. I mean,
you know, we've got new Congress members that are saying
that Orana impetue the m effort, talking about the President
and advocating openly for a seventy percent federal income tax.
They want their crumbs back, and then they want a
hell of a lot more. They want full redistribution and

(52:42):
medicare for all. And you know, we can never afford
the things that they want. A promise, just like that,
the promise of Obamacare was never going to be kept.
You know, it's a winning issue to say that we
want to stop the drug trafficking, the human trafficking, the
violence at our borders, that we want control of our borders.

(53:05):
We want legal immigration, we want to be able to
vet people to know they're not associated with violent gangs
or even worse, terrorist groups. We are sympathetic to people
that want what we probably all take advantage of and
maybe don't give enough thanks for, and that is the
liberty and the freedom to pursue our happiness and our

(53:28):
dreams and our God given talents. I mean, stopping drugs,
human trafficking, gang members, potential terrorists from entering the country
is a pretty strong hand from my perspective, and with
the death of officers seeing it just highlights he's just
the latest person to die in part, as the sheriff
out there said, because of sanctuary policies where ICE is

(53:51):
not allowed to go into and to identify those the
illegal immigrants that had commits at other crimes, some violent
and say enough is enough, you're going back. You're deported
after you serve your sentence. How many more innocent people
have to die before some of these politicians are willing

(54:12):
to protect the border. We have this insidious, evil opioid
crisis in the country all over the place. One hundred
and seventy two people are dying a day. How many
more people have to die of a drug overdose when
ninety percent of the heroine which is used to replace
the purkose at, the OxyContin and the vicodin that people

(54:34):
get addicted to. You know, how many people have to
die before we take notice that maybe we ought to
secure the border for that reason and prevent these drug
cartels from targeting every small town in big city in
the country. How many more people with terroritized are we
going to catch at the border, and even worse, how
many get through because we've caught people with terrortize and

(54:58):
violent gang member tie. I've been down there thirteen times.
What about fair wages and saving American jobs? You know,
we had great job numbers today, but and for the
first time in over a decade, you know, we've seen
rising wages for the middle class in America at a
significant rate. President was touting that today you'll never get

(55:20):
any of the success from the corrupt media. That even
it was funny listening to you know, Joel Abramson, former
New York Times executive editor, saying that, you know, basically
her newspaper and their so called news coverage is biased
against the president. I mean, I can go through a
whole series of stuff going on over at fake news

(55:42):
CNN suggesting they're actually blaming Trump for illegals attacking border
patrol agents. Why because they didn't let them in and
they didn't open the borders. You know where CNN's Nina
Turner saying that Republicans need to go change the president's diapers.
This this, this is news in America. There is no
news there. We have an information crisis, all right. I

(56:05):
want to get to our busy telephones. Now this is
who I think it is, right, Linda on my Fallow
all right, so a distant relative of mine. If you've
ever heard me talk about my family, I've said my
mom was worked in a prison, my dad was a
family corprobation guy, and I've talked many times how I

(56:25):
stand on the shoulders of my all four my grandparents
because they came to this country with little or norm money. Legally,
by the way, I have the papers through Ellis Island.
And my grandfather's name was Cornelius Flynn and his brother's
name was David Flynn. And while many members and extended
family members became cops and worked in law enforcement to two,

(56:46):
there were two members that made it to the upper
echelon of the FBI, and I think this is one
of them. On my newsmaker line, is this Bill? Is
that Bill Flynn? Is this you less? My brother Pat
dashed away in twenty twelve. You're probably hurting the family
I did. But I'm so sorry to hear that. You
You know that, especially your mom and dad. I used

(57:09):
to make your mom gin and tonics, right, that was
her favorite drink? Yes, indeed, and you can imitate my
father's smoking all the time. Yeah, because your father was smoking,
he gived he pucker his lips, he'll and he'd smoke
the pipe. Tell me how he gave up smoking, you know. Um, well,
let me tell you. You know, when I think back
to those days and people like your dad, your grand

(57:31):
your dad, and my my grandfather and his brother, your
your father, I mean, these were incredibly brave people that literally,
you know, slaved away their entire adult lives so we
could have a better life. You know, Seuan, it's funny
you say, I of course I feel that way too.
But your mother was something special too. It was one number.

(57:52):
I really admired her. He's tough as nails, except she
couldn't control me. That was I was the biggest disappointment
in her life. You know what shot I Well, you
were a little lever. Why did we call your your
mom birdie? I'm trying to remember. Why did we say that? Yeah? Yeah,

(58:13):
her name was Bridget and they would they'd call it Brady,
but some people didn't get the Brady pot right and
they'd call it Birdie by mistake, you know, So it
was almost a joke in the family. When you wanted
to tease a you'd call him Burdy. You know, I'm
so glad you called because you know, I've been in
the forefront on this program of doing something that I
find is tasteful. Um because and you know my family,

(58:36):
you know our background, and I mean it, I mean
I got this. You you were years ago. I remember
you'd have you look like a hippie with long hair
because of your job with the FBI. And I did, yes, yes,
and you and you very courageously. We did infiltrations and
and did really tough, dangerous work. And I've had to

(58:57):
now go over what I think is is some really
only at the upper echel and I don't talk about
rank and file special agents, the guys in the field offices,
but some top guys at the FBI did things that
were horrible. And it breaks my heart because of my
deep respect, in part because of you and your brother
and my whole family for law enforcement. It is in

(59:19):
our DNA respect and be thankful for law enforcement. Absolutely sure.
Let me say my vintage. I've worked for you know,
Jim Calstrom, I love him, love him. Yeah, yeah, Well
I worked for Jim for about ten years, so I'm
over that vintage I've been out of there twenty years,
but I can honestly tell you I don't know anybody

(59:41):
in my vintage who who does not understand exactly what
you said. And they are absolutely disgusted by what's going
on with the Comy era people. It's just sickening to us.
And I don't understand why they haven't reached back at
some point and really go in and special Prosecute will
get a good look at what went on under call

(01:00:01):
me in the Justice Department. They totally absolutely embarrassed the bureau.
Could you imagine. I'll think about this and think of
your years in the FBI, UM, and I'm so glad
you called the program. I'm going to get your numbers,
and I want to reconnect with you because I have
a lot of stories to tell about your dad and
mom that are pretty funny. But you and Jim Calstrom's

(01:00:24):
a dear friend and I love him, and he's been
on the program programs a lot. And I will tell you,
I mean imagine getting a warrant and not verifying or
corroborating allegations and not telling a FISA court judge. Oh,
the opposition party paid for it, and we didn't verify it,
but we're signing our name to it that It blows

(01:00:46):
my mind that that could happen in this country. It's
totally unacceptable. And then they take that thing and they
use it as a weapon against President Trump during the election,
and when that doesn't work out, then it is the
information they got from it took away after him when
he's the president. It's at third it's criminal why these

(01:01:06):
people are getting away with it makes the rest of
us guys out there the old time is shit around
scratching out head saying what's going on? You know? You know,
I have friends of mine today that are in the FBI,
and they actually say things like, we feel embarrassed, And
I keep telling them, you'd have no reason to be
embarrassed because you didn't do any of these things. And

(01:01:28):
you every single law enforcement person in our extended family,
including you and your brother when you served in the
FBI or I think you remember the Kerwins too, right,
and my cousin Billy and Maureen, I mean they were them.
I didn't know them personally, but I knew who they were.
The greatest gift I ever got was a cop had
a Billy club, handcuffs and you know, when I was

(01:01:50):
five years old, I thought I was a cop. I
really believed it. I have used to arrest with everyone
on the family. I'm surprised I didn't put the cuffs
on you. And you know, there's a picture. There's a
picture of you and that thing floating around somewhere. No
way real. No. By the way, there's no posting any
pictures by family members. It's a rule. Yeah, well, you
don't want that thing online. Listen. I don't want I

(01:02:11):
don't want a lot of things online about my past.
So tell me, what are you doing now after all
those years you served in the FBI, And how's your
family doing? How's everybody doing? Everybody's fine. My wife is
doing terrific, Linda. When I got out of the FBI,
had like three careers. I got involved with the anti
piracy stuff for the recording industry. A friend of mine

(01:02:31):
and I had another friend of mine worked for Chubb
Insurance and I used to do a little stuff for them.
And then I got involved in an anti money laundering
compliance situation. And I don't know how much you're familiar
with that, but some of these financial institutions got got
themselves in trouble for not doing correct vetting of different things,
so they'd have to bring in companies to come in

(01:02:54):
like myself being hired in, and go in and go
through the money laundering stuff to make sure that they're
up to snuff and find out just how corrupt they
were or weren't, you know, but definitely was doing. But
you know I'm old now, you know. So I'm just
I got my my my feet up and enjoying life, Sean,
and a part of which is you every day. And

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the only other person was a bigger fan than me
was my brother Path. You know, it's funny. Have you
heard me say that I have members of my family
and the FBI that were considered deity. You knew I
was talking about you, right, Yeah? I did, And I
swear every time you did it, I get it absolutely
tickled inside. I really, I really am. And continue on,

(01:03:36):
feel free to throw my name and if you're like too,
but I'd be glad. I sit there holding hands smiling
when when I hear that stuff, and I think Calstrom's
gonna get a big surprise when he realizes I'm calling
Callstrom tonight. I'm gonna give him a buzz and tell
him by the way you know my buddy, You know,
your buddy, Bill Flynn is a close relative. Listen. I
have really fond memories your your father and my grandfather.

(01:03:59):
They were brothers, and they came to this country. And
I got the documents. They had ten dollars in their pocket,
that's it. And they you know, they lived through the depression.
They never had much of anything. It was a big
deal for them to even get a decent apartment in
a nice place for us, for us, and raised us

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with I think the best value. So many of our
family went into law enforcement. I have such a deep
respect and and how you guys made it to the
upper echelon was such a tribute to you, you guys,
and it was a it was the pride of the family.
It really was. Now I'm the black sheet, but you're
you guys were the pride of the family. Un yeah,
you had I don't know if you remember Francis Mason.

(01:04:42):
Of course I don't remember Francis Mason. Yeah, of course.
So well, Francis was a cop as well, you know,
and I think Connie Flynn was a cop at one point.
You mean my my grandfather, No, no, you would be
his Oh no, no, yeah, before well that was his
that was my uncle Cornelie. So then got really wealthy

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and then he was crazy and he died at a
pretty young age. He died at forty eight. I think
he was a cop for a short period of time.
It might have been you know what he might have been.
I was closer to the Kerwin's and you know, sadly,
uh Billy who I loved was you know, he got
he got leukemia at a really early age and that
family went through a lot of tragedy at the time.
And then his father died the next day. It was unbelievable.

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All right, look all listen, I'm gonna get your numbers.
I'm gonna put you on hold. And I'm so glad
you checked in. And I'm glad that you you picked
up my messages to you because it was well deserved
and it's a family truth. And hum. I'll be checking
in with you and Jim in the next couple of days.
So thank you so much for checking him. I appreciate it. Man. See,
I tell I have the greatest family love law enforcement.

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We were brought up that way. It was in our
DNA period.