May 30, 2023 • 29 mins
Gregg Jarrett, Fox News Legal Analyst and author of the book, Trial of the Century, out today and in bookstores everywhere.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Stay right here for our final news round up and
information overload.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I do's round up and information overload. Our toll free,
our numbers eight hundred and nine to four one Sean.
You want to be a part of the program. So
many of you might not have heard of this. And
the great legal scholar friend of this program, Greg Jarrett,
is now out with a new book and it's it's
it's phenomenal. I mean, since I picked it up, I
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can't put it down. About a century ago, you have
famed liberal attorney Clarence Darrow. Most of you have heard
of defending a school teacher, John Scopes, in what it
became a blockbuster legal proceeding that brought the attention of this,
you know, to the entire country of a small town
of called Dayton in Tennessee, not Dayton, Ohio. And Darrow's
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you know, defense of freedom of speech helped form the
legal bedrock on which our civil liberties depend today. I mean,
like everything Greg does, it was expertly re searched, and
it is just it's it's just you know why most
people don't know about it. I don't know. I'm glad
he actually took this topic and ran with it. And
it's out now in his brand new book. It's called
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Trial of the Century. Amazon dot com, Hannity dot com, today,
bookstores everywhere around the country. If you want a first print,
signed edition, you can go to the Greg jarrettbook dot com,
Thegreg Jarrett one word dot com slash book. Greg Jarrett
joins us, Now, how are you, sir?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Hey, I'm well, and thank you very much. I'm glad
you enjoy the book. I appreciate it. It's a subject that
you know, anybody under fifty years so has never heard of.
The Trial of the Century. Back then, it was known
as the Scoops monkey trial, which is what the press
dubbed did a misconception that man evolve from monkeys and
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other primates. And you know, our free speech rights were
hanging in the balance in this States were banning books
on evolution and other subjects. In Tennessee, they literally made
it a crime for an educator and a public school
to teach evolution a cornerstone theory in science. And you know,
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America could have gone one way or the other. And
this really made the Scopes trial the Trial of the century.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
It really has. Why don't you take everybody through it
and tell them the background, the story, and then the
impact that has had. It's been lasting ever since.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, you know, nineteen twenty five, after World War One,
you know, America turned inward and there was this great
fundamentalist movement that swept the nation, led by the iconic
William Jennings Bryan, a three time presidential candidate to the Democrats,
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and he pressured states into banning books on evolution, and
in Tennessee, as I say, made it a crime. Within days, literally,
this young school teacher, John Scopes was arrested and criminally
charged and taken off to jail out of this new
statute that said you can't teach evolution, even though it
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was taught in the state approved textbooks everywhere. And Clarence
Darrow is reading about this as he sits in his
office in Chicago, famed claimed lawyer, the finest Troyal lawyer
who ever lived, and who became my idol. He's incensed,
and he volunteers to defend Scopes. So it pits this
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titanic clash between two great American icons in the nineteen
twenty Darryl versus Brian, evolution versus creationism. You know, the
law was passed because the fear was that evolution undermined
and conflicted with the story of the divine creation and
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the Bible, which it did not. That was Darrow's argument
all along, that these are two concepts that live in harmony.
And you know, he tried to convince the judge to
allow the steam theologians to take the stand to say.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Just that, By the way, it's important that you point
this out. There are people that think it's mutually exclusive.
Either you believe in evolution or you believe in creationism. No,
creationism and the belief that in natural law or that
rights come from God and that God is a creator
didn't also create an evolutionary process. Actually, that is the
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heart of science, which is the heart of creation as well.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You're absolutely right. That was Darrow's position. Indeed, it's the
position of ninety eight percent of theologians in the world,
the position of Francis who said not long ago that
you know, evolution presupposes creation. They lived together in harmony.
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But you know, back then there was a different belief.
And you know, Darrow argued that if you make you know,
the Bible the yardstick by which all learning is measured,
where do we stop are we going to ban magazines
and newspapers? Are we going to ban all thought? As
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I say in the story, he and his young school
teacher client fought for the indispensable proposition that no one
should be told how to think that. You know, our
intellect is an open canvas of possibilities. We should be
free to paint it as we see free. And so
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America stood at the precipice. And you know, most people
think Darrow won, he actually lost. But what he did
was he shifted America's opinion and it was a sea change,
and it stopped the banning of books. Evolution and other
scientific theories were then allowed to be taught in public schools,
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but a free speech was at risk, and we cherish
it today, which makes this trial just as relevant now
as it was nearly one hundred years ago.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
You know, it is fascinating, and you know, fast forward
to the debates we have today drag Queen Story Hour
and teaching transgenderism to even young kids in school. I
would argue, that's indoctrinating our kids, or the battle over CRT.
And meanwhile, we spend more for capita for education than
any industrialized country, but the kids can't read right through math,
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science or history, and certainly don't know a thing about computers,
and we have failed them spectacularly in many ways. It's
like a modern day version, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, sure is. And look the climactic moment of the
trial came when Darrow, realizing he was losing, pulls a
rabbit out of his hat and he dares to call
the prosecutor, William Jennings Brian to the witness stand, is
an expert on the Bible. Knowing that Brian couldn't resist
because his ego was as big as all outdoors, and
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I had great respect for the man. He was a
wonderful statesman. So Brian takes the witness stand. They move
it outdoors. They're fearful that the courtroom is going to
collapse under the great lead of all the spectators. Thousands
of people converge on the lawn outside the courthouse and
there they hold a cross examination, and Darrow picks apart Brian,
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who believed that everything in the Bible should be taken literally,
and he utterly destroyed Brian, so much so that Brian,
broken man, laid down for a nap. A couple of
days later, still in Dayton, just down the streets from
the courthouse and never woke up.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Unbelievable. What now, what got you interested in this in
the first place? I mean, obviously, you love history, you
love the law. You do the deepest dives in the
topics that I've ever seen. I watched Greg write his
previous to number one best selling books as his office
was next to mine and Fox, and I see the
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amount of work you put into this, and the amount
of you know, research was unbelievable. Here.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Well, I went to the courthouse a couple of years
ago and went through the archives, and there was the
original trial transcript, along with handwritten notes from the court reporter,
and that is upon which the book is based. I
read the lengthy trial transcript over and over, and that's
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the fundamental part of the chapters on the trial itself.
So you will see as you read along Darrow's withering
cross examination of William Jennings Bryant, and how Bryant, you know,
fumbled and mumbled. The crowd was in favor of Brian,
and suddenly they shifted. Is they watched this great man
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who they expected to have all the answers, had no
answers at all.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Let me ask you as we move on to some
other topics. By the way, Greg's new book is out.
You can get it signed first print edition at the
Greg Jarret dot com slash book It's called Trial of
the Century. Its and bookstores as of today, and Hannity
dot com, Amazon dot com. You know, we keep watching
the Biden syndicate and we keep learning more and more
about government abuse of power and the DOJ and the
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FBI and their involvement in things. You know, one of
the questions that somebody brought up over the long weekend was,
and Congress is going to look into this, why wasn't
anybody Why wasn't struck McCabe call me clin Smith. You know,
how did they get away with not cooperating with the
Durham probe.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Well, they got away with it because they simply refused,
and you know, there there was no way to force them.
And Comey refused to cooperate. He refused to you know,
testify under oath or even discuss it with the Durham investigators.
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And you know, it would have required deep litigation to
force him to do that, and in the end he
might just well have taken the fifth.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
So It's unfortunate, but you know, you didn't really need
coming and McCabe and Struck and all of the others
because their documents were there. The paper trail incriminated them
and their lawless actions, their abuse of power. The Durham
report has vindicated everything that you Sean Hannity argued for
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the better part of the last five or six years,
and which I believe I got correct in my first
two books of the Russia hoax and witch hunt. You know,
they never had any credible evidence to open an investigation
of Trump. They knew it. They debunked the dossier, and
yet they decided to lie not just to the fis acord,
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the American public, the President himself, they lied to Congress.
They did it because they hated Trump and they wanted
to destroy him.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Let me ask you this, now that we've learned about
the FBI's involvement in both the twenty sixteen and twenty
twenty election, and we're talking about the dossier in twenty
sixteen and a lot more to it. I'm just giving
this a quick summary here. And now we know that
the FBI that had the laptop in twenty nineteen verified
it in the spring of twenty twenty. Why then, were
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they telling big Tech that they may be victims of
a misinformation campaign on a weekly basis, and even specifically
mentioning that it may be about Joe or Hunter Biden.
How is it that is not resonating in the country,
Because I could imagine that if there was a misinformation
campaign with Donald Trump's FBI and say there was something
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negative out there about one of the Trump kids. Why
do I think that the reaction would be distinctly different
For the.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Mainstream media to admit it, to do stories on it, honest,
forthright stories would be an inherent admission that they committed
the worst act of media malpractice in my lifetime. They
won Pulitzer Prizes for getting this story fundamentally wrong. Those
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of us who got it right were not ridiculed in demeans.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
So and also, I think they did a little bit
of looking into our backgrounds, likely illegally, didn't they? Greg?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Oh, of course they did. I mean that's one of
the things you learn in the Durham Report. What is
it two hundred and seventy six thousand times the misused
FISA by Spine on Americans and collecting data, you know,
without the proper warrant. I mean, this just demonstrates to
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me what I have long argued that the FBI is
a crooked organization at the top, not the middle, not
the bottom. Those are honest, honorable people, but on the
seventh floor of the Hoover Building. And the FBI needs
to be deconstructed and reconstructed the way it was meant
to be. We need another church commission to expose the
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lawlessness of these people and to undertake legislation to stop it.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
It's unreal. Now, the CIA you can add to the
list as well. According to one of the whistleblowers.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Oh yeah, the invented a lie in order to help
Joe Biden get elected and it worked well.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
By the way, Kevin McCarthey did warrant FBI Director Ray
that is to face contempt of Congress charges if he
doesn't produce the FBI's Biden bribery evidence by the end
of the day. That's that ten twenty three form. Apparently,
I guess Ray is agreed to meet with Comer. We'll
see how that plays out.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, there are two courses of action. You can take
criminal contempt of Congress and civil. Don't go the criminal route,
because that has to be handed off to a US
attorney who reports to guess who Merrick Garland, as does
Christopher Ray, so nothing will happen. The better course is
to proceed with civil contempt of Congress, file a lawsuit,
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go to a federal judge, hopefully an impartial one, who
will then I suspect order Ray to turn over the
document because it's not classified and there are no reasonable
legitimate grounds to be withholding it from Congress, which has
an oversight duty to look into FBI abuse, not to
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mention potential criminal activities. Well, existing president.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
That's their job oversight. You said the right word. Greg
Jarrett is new book out today, bookstores all around the country.
It's called Trial of the Century. You don't want to
miss it. Amazon dot com, Hannity dot com, bookstores all
across the country. If you want to sign first copy,
first print edition. Greg has it up on the website
the Greg Jarrett One Word dot com slash book, The
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Greg Jarrett dot Com slash book. Greg, we always love
having you. Thank you my friend, Sean.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Thank you so much for your support and your friendship.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Appreciate you, Bet, thank you great work. We'll continue. Linda
you're driving me nuts about getting on the road.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
What now, I am an eager, eager girl.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
You know, one thing's to happen when I want them
to happen. And I've been bugging you for quite a while.
I love getting on the road. I love seeing the
American people. And I'm stoke man, you know, being in
the Des Moines area and being able to hang out
with even forty five. I mean, I think everybody should
go to Handyat right now, sign up, get their tickets
and come see us, because I think it's going to
be unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
It's going to be will be in Des Moines, Iowa.
It'll be this Thursday and night or and uh, it'll
be on Hannity on the Fox News channel. Is going
to be a Hannity Trump town hall.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
For those of you saying, well, Hannity, you're only no,
we're going to put the other candidate. So I'm will
give them. We'll give them time as well as we promised.
And by the way, as we've pulled all of you
and you over yelled, overwhelmingly whelmingly yelled at me that
that's what you want.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
So let me tell you why this is what I want.
And I think that the audience would agree with me.
I do the audience, the audience. I don't know how
they say it in Iowa, but I'm willing to learn
what you know. I really feel like in New York
there are wonderful conservatives.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
They're kind of hiding in the corners.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
There's even some liberals that have crossed back over to
our side of the aisle because they see what a
terrible disaster, you know, New York has become in every
corner in crevice. But I really feel like we're going
to get out on the road and we're going to
see the way people work, the way you know, it's
kind of like how we talked about during COVID, like
Trucker's truck, farmers, farm people are out there raising their kids,
they're going to school, they're trying to you know, feed
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them and pay their mortgage and all the things.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Like that's where I want to go see these people.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
I don't want to be in the bashing of liberalism
trying to like we don't do this.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
We do this every election season. This we do, but.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
It's just not like these really big, live town halls
like that to me is so fun.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
There I've done a few of the amazing.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
They're they're rocking, they're fun. I got a lot of
feedback on the audience show, and we'll have one tomorrow night.
If you want to go to Hannity dot com, you
can sign up for tomorrow Night show. If you're in
the New York, New Jersey Long Island area or you know.
What we're finding is people are building vacations going for
whatever reason, they choose New York City. Now, maybe because
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I live in New York, the last place I choose
to go on vacation is New York City. However, other
people want to see the city. I mean they've they've
never been to an area like that, and in that sense,
it's it's definitely worth a trip in your life to
go see New York City and the Statue of Liberty
and see all these tall buildings and the Freedom Tower
and the Empire State Building. I mean, it's got an
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incredible history behind it. A lot of people like Broadway shows.
I'm not a big Broadway guy, but some people really
love it, so they have a great time. I think
Mark Simone likes that, doesn't he listen?
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Everybody likes it.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
I was just with Mark Simone last week and we're
walking around Manhattan and he goes, Okay, this restaurant is
really good for a time, this restaurant we were, you know,
and I mean it's listen, you have to keep your
eyes in years open and you have to pay attention.
But there really is no city other than New York.
We are going to get it back. We are going
to make it great. It is not always is right.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Now, never going to leave that city.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
He's never.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Makes the place.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I'm only taxpayer. He'll be paying the entire freight.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
And the rest of his life, the rest of his life.
He forgot about it.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Unreal. We have some other issues, you know. Hillary Clinton
shockingly has jumped into the and chiming in that the
state of Florida is not safe for Africa in Americans
and gays. Can we take this this new you know,
talking point. Just can we just go a little further?
Any red state is not safe for anybody, you know,
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since they had this travel advisory from the NAACP. It's
such a crock. And ironically, if that was the case,
then why does the head of the NAACP live in Florida?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
And he got mad? He got mad when they called
him on it. He's like, that's irrelevant. I'm like, I'm pretty.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Sure it's not.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Pretty sure.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
If you're in a fear of your life, you would
get out of the place where you thought they were
going to come and murder you.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I mean, this is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
By the way, Oh, there's a huge bullseye on Target now.
They took a ten billion dollar hit in their backlash
because of you know, they had the the women's bathing
suits for men with the what do they call that
area to hide their private parts? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
I call it tuck you junk, but I don't know
what the real name is. I think tuck your junk
has a really nice ring to it. I suggest everyone
hashtag that phrase, you know, four against.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
It works, It gives it. It's a very clear picture
of what's happening.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
How is it the New York Times wants a little
more kink in the children's movie or remake of The
Little Mermaid? What's that? Hell? Does that mean?
Speaker 4 (20:09):
It's just gross? I just leave the kids alone.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Please stop on they got they gotta stop. You know,
we have drag Queen's story. Our transgender education for first
through third grades in some places. I mean, this is
this is nuts.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
It's nuts. It's too much.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
It's why why are you so hell bent on exposing
our children to all this over sexualization?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
I just don't get it. It makes no sense to me.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Well that Miller Light didn't learn, and Budweiser Light didn't learn.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
You know who else has fallen in line?
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Now Coles Holes Holes has a whole thing out today,
and what the hell's going on?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I mean, are they not watching what's happening and everyone else? Anyway?
They became the latest retailer of the market LGBTQ clothing
to children. Why are they targeting children in this? How
about you let the parents decide we're close to buy
their kids. It's that simple, you know, because it's not
like the kids have the money to buy the clothes anyway.
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All right, let me get to my busy phones. Here,
Rock Sanne is with us in Texas. What's on your mind?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Well, I'm sharing my frustration with the whole transgender marketing
that's going on right now, and I think y'all had
just an excellent conversation about it just now. But I
am a transgender female here deep in Texas and I'm
living my life quietly and happily. I'm involved in my community,
and what I see going on is not representative of
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the transgender community as I know it, because as a
transgender female, when I go somewhere and I see a
masculine man with his beard and chest and a woman's
wedding dress, or a masculine figure in a woman's bathing
suit with all of his figure going on, I just
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see that as wrong. And quite honestly, I haven't met
anybody who's in agreement with this that thinks that that's
attractive or cute or pretty well.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
So you, you, yourself made the decision to become trans Is
that that a fair statement?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I made the decision to become female.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I am female, okay, so but such so that's called transitioning,
isn't it. That's I don't want to play word games
or parst words.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
But that's correct.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
You made this decision as an adult, correct, correct? Okay,
And maybe it's something you struggled with when you were young.
I'm just it is.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I had a military father, though, who wasn't going to
stand for it, and we had a great relationship. I
had great childhood. I actually went on to live a
quite normal manly life, except I could never seem to
get I couldn't hold a job, and it just wasn't
really anything I was doing. I was just caught up
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in this whole recycling and downcycling over and over again.
That it cost me a marriage and through a series
of events. It's a long story, but anyways, several years
ago I went into counseling and they said, have you
ever considered gender dysphoria? And then it all started making
sense for me and coming together. And I will say
that I am in a much better place emotionally and
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mentally for making that decision, and things are going great
right now.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
You know, Well, first of all, I think I think
most of my audience would agree with me, and I
can't speak for everybody obviously, is as an adult, you
have something in this country that we should all cherish,
and we're losing a lot of it unfortunately on a
regular basis. It's called freedom.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
And I.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
My belief is if you have the belief that everyone
has the right to pursue happiness and this is your
way of pursuing happiness, I'll be very blunt rocksand it's
none of my business. My hope for you would be
that you have a happy, healthy, prosperous life. What I
like in what you're saying is you don't like this
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indoctrination or inundating our children with it.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Tell me why, Well, because that's a decision for the family.
You know, that's that's something that's quite personal. And I
think that when a child is showing signs of that,
they should let that play out a little bit and
decide whether or not it needs to be going through
counseling or whatever. But that's a family decision, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
I'm just look, I agree with you, and I think
I do you agree with me? The kids that are
you know, in some instances and not even pre pre
pubescent or teenagers, you agree with me that did not spiritually, mentally,
psychologically developed enough to make such a drastic decision like this.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Yes, I do agree with that, you know, and be
a phase.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
It could be a phase exactly, and and maybe at
that point they need loving parents. Maybe they don't like
what they're dealing with, however, that are are going to
be there for them, love them unconditionally, but also make
sure that they help the child get to the bottom
of it. You know, we don't need kids in such
conflict that you know, they they you know, they get depressed,
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they get you know, who knows what it's going to
go through their head.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Next, right, well, I think I think we're in agreement
with that. And to another issue. I'm going to change
the subject just a little bit. But as far as
men going into women's spaces, a transgender person wants to
blend in, and the term that we don't want to
hear is clocked clocked, meaning that you've been identified as transgender.
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We want to pass as the gender that's in our heads.
So for me, I want to pass as femail and
if someone identifies me as server or male, that's not good.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Do you think some people do it on purpose to
just be a jackass, sir?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Obviously I have the people here in East Texas. You know,
I'm in the Bible Belt here, and there are people
that just won't accept it. Others have they can't remember
what I used to be like, But.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
They're not your friends anyway. I mean, at the end
of the day, I mean people that truly believe in
liberty and freedom. They may not agree with it, they
may have more they may have religious conflicts over it.
For example, another.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Part of this. Here's another part of this that when
I am called sir, because it does happen, and it's
not out of being malicious or anything. It's just that
they've known me for so long, they can't help it.
And they do apologize, and I tell them it's okay.
I don't get militant about it. I don't correct them.
I go, I understand because I am changing your paradigm.
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I am asking you to understand where I'm coming from
and believe in what I'm telling you. And I have
been well accepted here in East Texas. I thought i'd
have to move, but the people of these Texas have
been wonderful. They love me because as they look at
my character and what I bring to the table. And
that's what we need to do. We need to be part.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Caitlyn Jenner just started a new pack. I think you'd
be perfect to work on her on her pack. Now.
I knew Caitlyn when Caitlyn was Bruce. And actually when
this first all went down and was publicized, I literally said,
and it was I was just goofing around. To be honest,
I said, now if I call you Bruce, she's not
gonna get all wigged out on me, are you and
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she started laughing. She goes, no, you can call me
whatever the hell you want, and she had a good
sense of humor about it. We've had discussions. I understand
more than I did before. Do I wish this for anybody?
I really don't. I'm going to tell you why because
what I what I sense in a lot of people
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is that there's a lot of emotional and mental and
spiritual turmoil that goes along with this process that you
all decided to go through, and that part of it
I don't wish on anybody. I want everyone to be.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Happy, Yes, absolutely. I mean I grew up Southern Baptists.
I'm an Episcopalia now, but yeah, I wrestled with that.
And trust me, me and God are completely good on this.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
You know.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Like I said, it all comes down to character and
what do you bring to the table.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Hang on, let me call God. God. Are you good
with rocks? And okay, I think you're good?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
You think so well? I think no.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I mean what I'm glad about is the thing that
frustrates me in this whole debate and even the you know,
drag queen story. Our stuff is leave our kids alone.
This value should be instilled by parents. There are certain
decisions that parents and parents alone should be making. In
the instances where there aren't parents, hopefully there are grandparents
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or there are supervising adults that would take on the
role of a parent and work with a child in
a loving way that does not cause them great damage.
I got to run listen, call back again. We'd love
to have you. Okay, all right, real good. Thank you
so much, appreciate it. Eight hundred nine point one, Shawn
our number if you want to be a part of
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Thank you for making this show possible.
Stay right here for our final news round up and
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
I do's round up and information overload. Our toll free,
our numbers eight hundred and nine to four one Sean.
You want to be a part of the program. So
many of you might not have heard of this. And
the great legal scholar friend of this program, Greg Jarrett,
is now out with a new book and it's it's
it's phenomenal. I mean, since I picked it up, I
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can't put it down. About a century ago, you have
famed liberal attorney Clarence Darrow. Most of you have heard
of defending a school teacher, John Scopes, in what it
became a blockbuster legal proceeding that brought the attention of this,
you know, to the entire country of a small town
of called Dayton in Tennessee, not Dayton, Ohio. And Darrow's
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you know, defense of freedom of speech helped form the
legal bedrock on which our civil liberties depend today. I mean,
like everything Greg does, it was expertly re searched, and
it is just it's it's just you know why most
people don't know about it. I don't know. I'm glad
he actually took this topic and ran with it. And
it's out now in his brand new book. It's called
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Trial of the Century. Amazon dot com, Hannity dot com, today,
bookstores everywhere around the country. If you want a first print,
signed edition, you can go to the Greg jarrettbook dot com,
Thegreg Jarrett one word dot com slash book. Greg Jarrett
joins us, Now, how are you, sir?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Hey, I'm well, and thank you very much. I'm glad
you enjoy the book. I appreciate it. It's a subject that
you know, anybody under fifty years so has never heard of.
The Trial of the Century. Back then, it was known
as the Scoops monkey trial, which is what the press
dubbed did a misconception that man evolve from monkeys and
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other primates. And you know, our free speech rights were
hanging in the balance in this States were banning books
on evolution and other subjects. In Tennessee, they literally made
it a crime for an educator and a public school
to teach evolution a cornerstone theory in science. And you know,
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America could have gone one way or the other. And
this really made the Scopes trial the Trial of the century.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
It really has. Why don't you take everybody through it
and tell them the background, the story, and then the
impact that has had. It's been lasting ever since.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, you know, nineteen twenty five, after World War One,
you know, America turned inward and there was this great
fundamentalist movement that swept the nation, led by the iconic
William Jennings Bryan, a three time presidential candidate to the Democrats,
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and he pressured states into banning books on evolution, and
in Tennessee, as I say, made it a crime. Within days, literally,
this young school teacher, John Scopes was arrested and criminally
charged and taken off to jail out of this new
statute that said you can't teach evolution, even though it
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was taught in the state approved textbooks everywhere. And Clarence
Darrow is reading about this as he sits in his
office in Chicago, famed claimed lawyer, the finest Troyal lawyer
who ever lived, and who became my idol. He's incensed,
and he volunteers to defend Scopes. So it pits this
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titanic clash between two great American icons in the nineteen
twenty Darryl versus Brian, evolution versus creationism. You know, the
law was passed because the fear was that evolution undermined
and conflicted with the story of the divine creation and
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the Bible, which it did not. That was Darrow's argument
all along, that these are two concepts that live in harmony.
And you know, he tried to convince the judge to
allow the steam theologians to take the stand to say.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Just that, By the way, it's important that you point
this out. There are people that think it's mutually exclusive.
Either you believe in evolution or you believe in creationism. No,
creationism and the belief that in natural law or that
rights come from God and that God is a creator
didn't also create an evolutionary process. Actually, that is the
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heart of science, which is the heart of creation as well.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You're absolutely right. That was Darrow's position. Indeed, it's the
position of ninety eight percent of theologians in the world,
the position of Francis who said not long ago that
you know, evolution presupposes creation. They lived together in harmony.
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But you know, back then there was a different belief.
And you know, Darrow argued that if you make you know,
the Bible the yardstick by which all learning is measured,
where do we stop are we going to ban magazines
and newspapers? Are we going to ban all thought? As
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I say in the story, he and his young school
teacher client fought for the indispensable proposition that no one
should be told how to think that. You know, our
intellect is an open canvas of possibilities. We should be
free to paint it as we see free. And so
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America stood at the precipice. And you know, most people
think Darrow won, he actually lost. But what he did
was he shifted America's opinion and it was a sea change,
and it stopped the banning of books. Evolution and other
scientific theories were then allowed to be taught in public schools,
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but a free speech was at risk, and we cherish
it today, which makes this trial just as relevant now
as it was nearly one hundred years ago.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
You know, it is fascinating, and you know, fast forward
to the debates we have today drag Queen Story Hour
and teaching transgenderism to even young kids in school. I
would argue, that's indoctrinating our kids, or the battle over CRT.
And meanwhile, we spend more for capita for education than
any industrialized country, but the kids can't read right through math,
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science or history, and certainly don't know a thing about computers,
and we have failed them spectacularly in many ways. It's
like a modern day version, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, sure is. And look the climactic moment of the
trial came when Darrow, realizing he was losing, pulls a
rabbit out of his hat and he dares to call
the prosecutor, William Jennings Brian to the witness stand, is
an expert on the Bible. Knowing that Brian couldn't resist
because his ego was as big as all outdoors, and
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I had great respect for the man. He was a
wonderful statesman. So Brian takes the witness stand. They move
it outdoors. They're fearful that the courtroom is going to
collapse under the great lead of all the spectators. Thousands
of people converge on the lawn outside the courthouse and
there they hold a cross examination, and Darrow picks apart Brian,
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who believed that everything in the Bible should be taken literally,
and he utterly destroyed Brian, so much so that Brian,
broken man, laid down for a nap. A couple of
days later, still in Dayton, just down the streets from
the courthouse and never woke up.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Unbelievable. What now, what got you interested in this in
the first place? I mean, obviously, you love history, you
love the law. You do the deepest dives in the
topics that I've ever seen. I watched Greg write his
previous to number one best selling books as his office
was next to mine and Fox, and I see the
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amount of work you put into this, and the amount
of you know, research was unbelievable. Here.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Well, I went to the courthouse a couple of years
ago and went through the archives, and there was the
original trial transcript, along with handwritten notes from the court reporter,
and that is upon which the book is based. I
read the lengthy trial transcript over and over, and that's
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the fundamental part of the chapters on the trial itself.
So you will see as you read along Darrow's withering
cross examination of William Jennings Bryant, and how Bryant, you know,
fumbled and mumbled. The crowd was in favor of Brian,
and suddenly they shifted. Is they watched this great man
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who they expected to have all the answers, had no
answers at all.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Let me ask you as we move on to some
other topics. By the way, Greg's new book is out.
You can get it signed first print edition at the
Greg Jarret dot com slash book It's called Trial of
the Century. Its and bookstores as of today, and Hannity
dot com, Amazon dot com. You know, we keep watching
the Biden syndicate and we keep learning more and more
about government abuse of power and the DOJ and the
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FBI and their involvement in things. You know, one of
the questions that somebody brought up over the long weekend was,
and Congress is going to look into this, why wasn't
anybody Why wasn't struck McCabe call me clin Smith. You know,
how did they get away with not cooperating with the
Durham probe.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Well, they got away with it because they simply refused,
and you know, there there was no way to force them.
And Comey refused to cooperate. He refused to you know,
testify under oath or even discuss it with the Durham investigators.
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And you know, it would have required deep litigation to
force him to do that, and in the end he
might just well have taken the fifth.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
So It's unfortunate, but you know, you didn't really need
coming and McCabe and Struck and all of the others
because their documents were there. The paper trail incriminated them
and their lawless actions, their abuse of power. The Durham
report has vindicated everything that you Sean Hannity argued for
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the better part of the last five or six years,
and which I believe I got correct in my first
two books of the Russia hoax and witch hunt. You know,
they never had any credible evidence to open an investigation
of Trump. They knew it. They debunked the dossier, and
yet they decided to lie not just to the fis acord,
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the American public, the President himself, they lied to Congress.
They did it because they hated Trump and they wanted
to destroy him.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Let me ask you this, now that we've learned about
the FBI's involvement in both the twenty sixteen and twenty
twenty election, and we're talking about the dossier in twenty
sixteen and a lot more to it. I'm just giving
this a quick summary here. And now we know that
the FBI that had the laptop in twenty nineteen verified
it in the spring of twenty twenty. Why then, were
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they telling big Tech that they may be victims of
a misinformation campaign on a weekly basis, and even specifically
mentioning that it may be about Joe or Hunter Biden.
How is it that is not resonating in the country,
Because I could imagine that if there was a misinformation
campaign with Donald Trump's FBI and say there was something
(12:12):
negative out there about one of the Trump kids. Why
do I think that the reaction would be distinctly different
For the.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Mainstream media to admit it, to do stories on it, honest,
forthright stories would be an inherent admission that they committed
the worst act of media malpractice in my lifetime. They
won Pulitzer Prizes for getting this story fundamentally wrong. Those
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of us who got it right were not ridiculed in demeans.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
So and also, I think they did a little bit
of looking into our backgrounds, likely illegally, didn't they? Greg?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Oh, of course they did. I mean that's one of
the things you learn in the Durham Report. What is
it two hundred and seventy six thousand times the misused
FISA by Spine on Americans and collecting data, you know,
without the proper warrant. I mean, this just demonstrates to
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me what I have long argued that the FBI is
a crooked organization at the top, not the middle, not
the bottom. Those are honest, honorable people, but on the
seventh floor of the Hoover Building. And the FBI needs
to be deconstructed and reconstructed the way it was meant
to be. We need another church commission to expose the
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lawlessness of these people and to undertake legislation to stop it.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
It's unreal. Now, the CIA you can add to the
list as well. According to one of the whistleblowers.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Oh yeah, the invented a lie in order to help
Joe Biden get elected and it worked well.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
By the way, Kevin McCarthey did warrant FBI Director Ray
that is to face contempt of Congress charges if he
doesn't produce the FBI's Biden bribery evidence by the end
of the day. That's that ten twenty three form. Apparently,
I guess Ray is agreed to meet with Comer. We'll
see how that plays out.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, there are two courses of action. You can take
criminal contempt of Congress and civil. Don't go the criminal route,
because that has to be handed off to a US
attorney who reports to guess who Merrick Garland, as does
Christopher Ray, so nothing will happen. The better course is
to proceed with civil contempt of Congress, file a lawsuit,
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go to a federal judge, hopefully an impartial one, who
will then I suspect order Ray to turn over the
document because it's not classified and there are no reasonable
legitimate grounds to be withholding it from Congress, which has
an oversight duty to look into FBI abuse, not to
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mention potential criminal activities. Well, existing president.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
That's their job oversight. You said the right word. Greg
Jarrett is new book out today, bookstores all around the country.
It's called Trial of the Century. You don't want to
miss it. Amazon dot com, Hannity dot com, bookstores all
across the country. If you want to sign first copy,
first print edition. Greg has it up on the website
the Greg Jarrett One Word dot com slash book, The
(15:28):
Greg Jarrett dot Com slash book. Greg, we always love
having you. Thank you my friend, Sean.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Thank you so much for your support and your friendship.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Appreciate you, Bet, thank you great work. We'll continue. Linda
you're driving me nuts about getting on the road.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
What now, I am an eager, eager girl.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
You know, one thing's to happen when I want them
to happen. And I've been bugging you for quite a while.
I love getting on the road. I love seeing the
American people. And I'm stoke man, you know, being in
the Des Moines area and being able to hang out
with even forty five. I mean, I think everybody should
go to Handyat right now, sign up, get their tickets
and come see us, because I think it's going to
be unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
It's going to be will be in Des Moines, Iowa.
It'll be this Thursday and night or and uh, it'll
be on Hannity on the Fox News channel. Is going
to be a Hannity Trump town hall.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
For those of you saying, well, Hannity, you're only no,
we're going to put the other candidate. So I'm will
give them. We'll give them time as well as we promised.
And by the way, as we've pulled all of you
and you over yelled, overwhelmingly whelmingly yelled at me that
that's what you want.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
So let me tell you why this is what I want.
And I think that the audience would agree with me.
I do the audience, the audience. I don't know how
they say it in Iowa, but I'm willing to learn
what you know. I really feel like in New York
there are wonderful conservatives.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
They're kind of hiding in the corners.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
There's even some liberals that have crossed back over to
our side of the aisle because they see what a
terrible disaster, you know, New York has become in every
corner in crevice. But I really feel like we're going
to get out on the road and we're going to
see the way people work, the way you know, it's
kind of like how we talked about during COVID, like
Trucker's truck, farmers, farm people are out there raising their kids,
they're going to school, they're trying to you know, feed
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them and pay their mortgage and all the things.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Like that's where I want to go see these people.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
I don't want to be in the bashing of liberalism
trying to like we don't do this.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
We do this every election season. This we do, but.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
It's just not like these really big, live town halls
like that to me is so fun.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
There I've done a few of the amazing.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
They're they're rocking, they're fun. I got a lot of
feedback on the audience show, and we'll have one tomorrow night.
If you want to go to Hannity dot com, you
can sign up for tomorrow Night show. If you're in
the New York, New Jersey Long Island area or you know.
What we're finding is people are building vacations going for
whatever reason, they choose New York City. Now, maybe because
(17:45):
I live in New York, the last place I choose
to go on vacation is New York City. However, other
people want to see the city. I mean they've they've
never been to an area like that, and in that sense,
it's it's definitely worth a trip in your life to
go see New York City and the Statue of Liberty
and see all these tall buildings and the Freedom Tower
and the Empire State Building. I mean, it's got an
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incredible history behind it. A lot of people like Broadway shows.
I'm not a big Broadway guy, but some people really
love it, so they have a great time. I think
Mark Simone likes that, doesn't he listen?
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Everybody likes it.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
I was just with Mark Simone last week and we're
walking around Manhattan and he goes, Okay, this restaurant is
really good for a time, this restaurant we were, you know,
and I mean it's listen, you have to keep your
eyes in years open and you have to pay attention.
But there really is no city other than New York.
We are going to get it back. We are going
to make it great. It is not always is right.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Now, never going to leave that city.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
He's never.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Makes the place.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I'm only taxpayer. He'll be paying the entire freight.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
And the rest of his life, the rest of his life.
He forgot about it.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Unreal. We have some other issues, you know. Hillary Clinton
shockingly has jumped into the and chiming in that the
state of Florida is not safe for Africa in Americans
and gays. Can we take this this new you know,
talking point. Just can we just go a little further?
Any red state is not safe for anybody, you know,
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since they had this travel advisory from the NAACP. It's
such a crock. And ironically, if that was the case,
then why does the head of the NAACP live in Florida?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
And he got mad? He got mad when they called
him on it. He's like, that's irrelevant. I'm like, I'm pretty.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Sure it's not.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Pretty sure.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
If you're in a fear of your life, you would
get out of the place where you thought they were
going to come and murder you.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I mean, this is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
By the way, Oh, there's a huge bullseye on Target now.
They took a ten billion dollar hit in their backlash
because of you know, they had the the women's bathing
suits for men with the what do they call that
area to hide their private parts? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
I call it tuck you junk, but I don't know
what the real name is. I think tuck your junk
has a really nice ring to it. I suggest everyone
hashtag that phrase, you know, four against.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
It works, It gives it. It's a very clear picture
of what's happening.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
How is it the New York Times wants a little
more kink in the children's movie or remake of The
Little Mermaid? What's that? Hell? Does that mean?
Speaker 4 (20:09):
It's just gross? I just leave the kids alone.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Please stop on they got they gotta stop. You know,
we have drag Queen's story. Our transgender education for first
through third grades in some places. I mean, this is
this is nuts.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
It's nuts. It's too much.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
It's why why are you so hell bent on exposing
our children to all this over sexualization?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
I just don't get it. It makes no sense to me.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Well that Miller Light didn't learn, and Budweiser Light didn't learn.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
You know who else has fallen in line?
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Now Coles Holes Holes has a whole thing out today,
and what the hell's going on?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I mean, are they not watching what's happening and everyone else? Anyway?
They became the latest retailer of the market LGBTQ clothing
to children. Why are they targeting children in this? How
about you let the parents decide we're close to buy
their kids. It's that simple, you know, because it's not
like the kids have the money to buy the clothes anyway.
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All right, let me get to my busy phones. Here,
Rock Sanne is with us in Texas. What's on your mind?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Well, I'm sharing my frustration with the whole transgender marketing
that's going on right now, and I think y'all had
just an excellent conversation about it just now. But I
am a transgender female here deep in Texas and I'm
living my life quietly and happily. I'm involved in my community,
and what I see going on is not representative of
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the transgender community as I know it, because as a
transgender female, when I go somewhere and I see a
masculine man with his beard and chest and a woman's
wedding dress, or a masculine figure in a woman's bathing
suit with all of his figure going on, I just
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see that as wrong. And quite honestly, I haven't met
anybody who's in agreement with this that thinks that that's
attractive or cute or pretty well.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
So you, you, yourself made the decision to become trans Is
that that a fair statement?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I made the decision to become female.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I am female, okay, so but such so that's called transitioning,
isn't it. That's I don't want to play word games
or parst words.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
But that's correct.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
You made this decision as an adult, correct, correct? Okay,
And maybe it's something you struggled with when you were young.
I'm just it is.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I had a military father, though, who wasn't going to
stand for it, and we had a great relationship. I
had great childhood. I actually went on to live a
quite normal manly life, except I could never seem to
get I couldn't hold a job, and it just wasn't
really anything I was doing. I was just caught up
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in this whole recycling and downcycling over and over again.
That it cost me a marriage and through a series
of events. It's a long story, but anyways, several years
ago I went into counseling and they said, have you
ever considered gender dysphoria? And then it all started making
sense for me and coming together. And I will say
that I am in a much better place emotionally and
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mentally for making that decision, and things are going great
right now.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
You know, Well, first of all, I think I think
most of my audience would agree with me, and I
can't speak for everybody obviously, is as an adult, you
have something in this country that we should all cherish,
and we're losing a lot of it unfortunately on a
regular basis. It's called freedom.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
And I.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
My belief is if you have the belief that everyone
has the right to pursue happiness and this is your
way of pursuing happiness, I'll be very blunt rocksand it's
none of my business. My hope for you would be
that you have a happy, healthy, prosperous life. What I
like in what you're saying is you don't like this
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indoctrination or inundating our children with it.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Tell me why, Well, because that's a decision for the family.
You know, that's that's something that's quite personal. And I
think that when a child is showing signs of that,
they should let that play out a little bit and
decide whether or not it needs to be going through
counseling or whatever. But that's a family decision, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
I'm just look, I agree with you, and I think
I do you agree with me? The kids that are
you know, in some instances and not even pre pre
pubescent or teenagers, you agree with me that did not spiritually, mentally,
psychologically developed enough to make such a drastic decision like this.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Yes, I do agree with that, you know, and be
a phase.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
It could be a phase exactly, and and maybe at
that point they need loving parents. Maybe they don't like
what they're dealing with, however, that are are going to
be there for them, love them unconditionally, but also make
sure that they help the child get to the bottom
of it. You know, we don't need kids in such
conflict that you know, they they you know, they get depressed,
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they get you know, who knows what it's going to
go through their head.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Next, right, well, I think I think we're in agreement
with that. And to another issue. I'm going to change
the subject just a little bit. But as far as
men going into women's spaces, a transgender person wants to
blend in, and the term that we don't want to
hear is clocked clocked, meaning that you've been identified as transgender.
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We want to pass as the gender that's in our heads.
So for me, I want to pass as femail and
if someone identifies me as server or male, that's not good.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Do you think some people do it on purpose to
just be a jackass, sir?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Obviously I have the people here in East Texas. You know,
I'm in the Bible Belt here, and there are people
that just won't accept it. Others have they can't remember
what I used to be like, But.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
They're not your friends anyway. I mean, at the end
of the day, I mean people that truly believe in
liberty and freedom. They may not agree with it, they
may have more they may have religious conflicts over it.
For example, another.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Part of this. Here's another part of this that when
I am called sir, because it does happen, and it's
not out of being malicious or anything. It's just that
they've known me for so long, they can't help it.
And they do apologize, and I tell them it's okay.
I don't get militant about it. I don't correct them.
I go, I understand because I am changing your paradigm.
(26:47):
I am asking you to understand where I'm coming from
and believe in what I'm telling you. And I have
been well accepted here in East Texas. I thought i'd
have to move, but the people of these Texas have
been wonderful. They love me because as they look at
my character and what I bring to the table. And
that's what we need to do. We need to be part.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Caitlyn Jenner just started a new pack. I think you'd
be perfect to work on her on her pack. Now.
I knew Caitlyn when Caitlyn was Bruce. And actually when
this first all went down and was publicized, I literally said,
and it was I was just goofing around. To be honest,
I said, now if I call you Bruce, she's not
gonna get all wigged out on me, are you and
(27:26):
she started laughing. She goes, no, you can call me
whatever the hell you want, and she had a good
sense of humor about it. We've had discussions. I understand
more than I did before. Do I wish this for anybody?
I really don't. I'm going to tell you why because
what I what I sense in a lot of people
(27:46):
is that there's a lot of emotional and mental and
spiritual turmoil that goes along with this process that you
all decided to go through, and that part of it
I don't wish on anybody. I want everyone to be.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Happy, Yes, absolutely. I mean I grew up Southern Baptists.
I'm an Episcopalia now, but yeah, I wrestled with that.
And trust me, me and God are completely good on this.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
You know.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Like I said, it all comes down to character and
what do you bring to the table.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Hang on, let me call God. God. Are you good
with rocks? And okay, I think you're good?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
You think so well? I think no.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I mean what I'm glad about is the thing that
frustrates me in this whole debate and even the you know,
drag queen story. Our stuff is leave our kids alone.
This value should be instilled by parents. There are certain
decisions that parents and parents alone should be making. In
the instances where there aren't parents, hopefully there are grandparents
(28:47):
or there are supervising adults that would take on the
role of a parent and work with a child in
a loving way that does not cause them great damage.
I got to run listen, call back again. We'd love
to have you. Okay, all right, real good. Thank you
so much, appreciate it. Eight hundred nine point one, Shawn
our number if you want to be a part of
(29:08):
the program as we continue. Man, that's gonna wrap things
up for today. Nine Eastern Tonight Hannity on the Fox
News Channel, full debate over this budget battle, New Gingrich,
Nancy Mace, Kevin McCarthy, I think is going to join us. Also,
Tommy Laryn, Charlie ar Note will join us. We have
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