December 1, 2023 • 33 mins
Steve Moore, economist and author of “Trumponomics: Inside the America First Plan to Revive Our Economy” joins us to discuss last night’s debate and the statistics and numbers that were thrown around.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
By our two Sean Hannity Show toll free. Your number
is eight hundred and nine to four one Sean if
you want to be a part of the program. There's
been so much news about the issue of what Joe
Biden was bragging about thinking he was going to run
his campaign on, which was biden Omics. But now even
you have the Washington Post commentator on Meet the Press
last weekend saying bad idea. You might want to get
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rid of that term and get rid of it once
and for all. As we have been discussing, government has
such a big impact on our life. You know, for example,
local government has a big impact. Your school board will
have a big impact on what books your kids are
going to use to be educated with, whether or not
they're going woke, whether or not they they they want
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to get into issues involving sexuality and inappropriate ages, transgender,
gender identity, crt, et cetera, et cetera. It's a big
impact on your family's life. And then of course the
ability of states to tax you and the ability of
states to regulate you to and you know, this issue
of mass migration out of blue states into red states
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is very very real. I mean, if you look, for example,
the current average of gasoline is three twenty five. It's
lower in Florida, but for eighty eight in California.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
That's insane.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
You know, under Joe Biden, prices are up about a
buck fifty a gallon. Well, everything you buy, every store
you go to. That is a big deal. And if
you look at you know, the state of Florida, they
don't have a state income tax, but they have a
thirteen percent income tax out in California. And even if
you're and they say, well, we're just taxing the rich, No,
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they're not. If you're a married couple and you're making
any four thousand dollars a year, you're still paying six
percent of your income to the state. That's on top
of whatever you pay nationally up to a top marginal
rate of just shy of forty percent.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
It's insane.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You know, you look at the impact of government spending.
It's what we're at thirty three point eight trillion dollars
in debt. How how do you ever pay that back?
I mean, these are crazy numbers. The sales tax, for example,
why why is it hiring California seven point twenty five percent?
Why is it lower in Florida at six percent. You know,
income and corporate taxes, for example, why is it thirteen
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point three percent, eight and eight point eight percent in Florida.
Florida didn't even have a state income tax like California.
You think, well, okay, they have a state income tax,
but they charge less elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Uh, you look at all these numbers and I'll tell
you it's just it's it's killing people. When you have
two thirds of our country now sadly living paycheck to paycheck,
it is unbelievable. Let me play for you two cuts
here from last night. Then we'll check in with a friend,
Steven Moore, talking about how Newsome messed up California, the
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first California governor to lose population, and then debating their
state taxes and the impact of that.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Let me play that what he is.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
It's a simple question, how do you explain this phenomenon, governor?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (03:14):
When I was in the Navy, I got orders to
go to Naval amphibious based Coronado in southern California, and
I was a lifeline Floridian. But I went there and
I was like, man, this is one of the most
beautiful places on Earth, and I think California has more
natural advantages than any state in the country. You almost
have to try to mess California up. Yeah, that's what
Gavin Newsom has done since he's been governor. He's the
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first governor to ever lose population. They actually at one
point ran out of U hauls in the state of
California because so many people were leaving. Of course, he's
imposed restrictions on his own people while exempting himself from
those restrictions and going to the French laundry while his
people were suffering. He led the country in school closures,
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locking kids out of school while he had his own
kids in private school. In person, now, he's very good
at spinning these these tails. He's good at being slick
and slippery. He'll tell a blizzard of lies to be
able to try to mask the failures. But the reality
is they have failed because of his leftist ideology.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
California has lower taxes, lower than thirty two states for
working families in the middle class, significantly lower taxes.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
That's life, Texas.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Do you support a six percent income tax people, I'm.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Going to for aggressive taxes that advantage billionaires and millionaires
over working families in the working poor people in his
state pay more taxes in the low end than we
tax people on the high that's.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Saying seven dollars a gallon and this gas help working people.
That doesn't help working people at all. How does paying
an eight percent sales tax help working people. That doesn't
help working people at all. They have the highest taxes
in the nation. People flee to be able to save
money to get out of California, and you have working
class people that moved to these other states their dollars
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go much further. But here's the thing. They want to
take this Biden nomics, and they want to double down
on this for the next four years. How many people
are able to afford groceries now compared to what you
were doing three or four years ago. I talked to people,
you know, I talked to a woman who had a
cart full of groceries going in and they're ringing it
up and it got to be so expensive she has
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to take a lot of the stuff out. That didn't
used to be the case. People used to be able
to work hard and get ahead. That is not true
under Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
All right, joining us now, Steve Moore is with us,
author of the bestseller Trumpanomics, Inside the American First Plan
to revive our economy. I want to give credit to
Steve when this debate came up and became public, he
confided to me. And by the way, I hope I
can say this on the air. You have been doing
a deep dive into blue state red state?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Is Is that okay to say?
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (05:55):
Our laughter and I have been working on this for
twenty years, Sean, And it's the working title of the
buck we're only halfway through, is called the Blue State Meltdown.
And of course there's no blue state that is melting
down faster than California, except maybe New York.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Well, okay, so, how do you explain a loss of
in the last in the last two years, we have
on record seven hundred and fifty thousand people leaving California
and nearly five hundred thousand going to Florida. And that
was my first question last night, right out of the box,
how do you explain this phenomenon? And look, avin you know,
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he's very good at deflecting. He never really gave an
answer on that. He had a prepared first opening statement,
if you will, that he went to and I went
back to him, I said, but you still didn't answer
the question. I was trying to be respectful, and we
still didn't get an answer in terms of the phenomenon.
He just wanted to attack Governor DeSantis. But you know,
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how do you explain that if I'm the governor, I'm
the first governor to lose population in my state. I
think I'd be looking in the mirror and asking myself why.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
This is happening.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Yeah, you know, after that debate last night, by the way, you, Shawn,
you did an amazing job. That was a great work
in terms of being the real chaperone of that debate.
I was struck by the fact. I mean you had
to ask Gevin Knew some questions three four times before
he would answer. In some cases he never answered those questions, including.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I'd say said, I said, wait a minute, can you
just answer the question. I'm going to get to your
answer and then do whatever he wanted right.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
Well, you know what they're calling him today is the
artful badger because he doted all your questions. But the
toughest one for him to answer is how can a
place like California and the Fantis handled this very well?
I mean, let's face it, you've lived in California. I
a dore a most beautiful place on the planet. It's
a little slice of heaven. Beautiful beaches, beautiful mountains, beautiful women.
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You know what's not the like about California and the
progressive movement. It's not just it's not just the governor
knew some It's been happening now for ten or fifteen years.
High taxes, high regulation, forced union rules. You know, just
as an example, the governor there wants to outlaw gas
cars over the next five or six years. I mean,
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come on, the government's going to tell you what kind
of car you can buy.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
You know.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
The other thing that's happening in California that's really sad
is that the middle class is being held out there
because you can't afford to live there. You know, you
were being charitable, and you know, I looked at these
gas prices. It's about three h five today. It's almost
five dollars a gallon in many areas, So you're paying
two bucks a gallon. Think about this, two dollars a
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gallon more to fill up your tank in California than Florida. Well,
that's thirty bucks a week. You know, it's a tax.
It's a tax they tax.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
And by the way, and who's impact Who does that
impact the most? That impacts the poor, the middle class
the most. And they got to use that money to
get to work so they can put food on their
table and pay their rent. And guess what that thirty
bucks is a lot of money to people.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
Well, look, this is why this debate was so important.
I'm so I'm just so pleased you sponsored this, because
the whole debate of America, really, the whole election in
twenty twenty four, really is going to be about do
you want America to look more like New York and
California as you're thinking, or do you want it to
look like in like vaud Brint, places like Texas and
Arizona and North Carolina and of course Florida that are
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booming today. You know, if California stays on the same
trend that it's been on for the last five years,
think about this, Sean, it will lose three or four
congressional seats in the next census. That's how many people
are leaving California. That's never happened before in one hundred
and fifty years.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It's never happened, and having lived there five years in
the early part of my life in the eighties, I
remember at the time my sister and I had a
two bedrooms that we shared for a while, and it
was like seven hundred and twenty five bucks a month
at the time. It seemed like an enormous amount back then,
but it was what it was, and I'd go out,
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work hard and pay the rent every month. But yeah,
that is a tax. Everything else is a tax, and
except for property taxes, and that's only because of Prop
thirteen out out in California, all the taxes are higher.
And in California over Florida, and they don't have a
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thirteen percent you know, income tax.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Thirteen percent.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I mean that's on top of let's say you pay
the forty percent radio thirty nine and a half percent. Okay,
just to add the numbers up, that's fifty three cents
out of every dollar just in income taxes if you
live in that state.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Well, we're gonna have to start calling it Taxifornia. I mean,
it's amazing California versus Porida. California, as you just mentioned,
has this thirteen and a half percent highest income tax rate.
Zero in Florida. The middle class tax rate, depending on
how you define the middle classes, somewhere between seven and
nine per percent California. It's zero in Florida. And then,
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as you said, then they have a higher gas tax,
they have a higher corporate tax rate, they have a
higher capital gains tax, they have a higher tax. I mean,
what's the old joke if it moves, tax it. That
seems to be the philosophy in California. And by by
the way, that state could be turned around. It's hard
to believe, isn't it. Tean that you know, fifty years
ago Ronald Reagan was the governor of California and now
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it has turned so far to the left. This is
progressive governments, folks. How do you like it? Homeless people
on the streets built no, you know, the fentanyl crisis,
border out of control, that's what they I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Desanta said that Verdi, by the way, violent crime rates
were so much higher. It was twice the rate per
one hundred thousand than the state of Florida.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I mean, that is impacting everyday life.
Speaker 7 (11:49):
How is it last night that Gavin Newsom said they
have a higher murder rate. I mean, some of the statistics.
I don't know, he just pulled him out of his
hat because that's not true. I think you showed on
the screen that the crime rate is double in California
what it is in Florida, and yet he totally just
denied it.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
All right, quick break right back.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
We'll continue more with Steve Moore on the other side
than your calls coming up right as we continue. Steve
Moore is for this author of the bestseller Trumpnomics. One
of the things that I didn't want to do is
insert myself too much into this debate. When when somebody
wouldn't answer a very straight question, I would go back
in and say, okay, can you now answer the question.
We heard the speech, now you know answer. But look,
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I don't know what his motivation was. I'm glad he came.
I'm glad he did it. Yeah, he himself. He's very personable.
His family is very nice. I met his wife. They
have a you know, great family. I have some issues
with the people around him, but I'll save that for
another day. The behind the scenes, there's a whole book
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in that. But you know it's I'm just asking people,
what do you prefer? Why do the people at California
not want to explore the possibility that life can be
very different for them.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Well, it's a great question. I mean, you have you know,
California has been a state now where it really is
the very very rich who can afford to pay those
massive taxes because they're you know, the people of Silicon
Valley for example, you know, the billionaires, they can afford
to pay that high tax rate. And then at the
bottom of the ladder, you know, California has the most
generous welfare benefits. So it's people at very rich and
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people are very poor that you I think you said
it last night or just Anta said it. California has
one of the highest rates of income inequality. I thought
the left was against incoming equality because the only people
can afford to live there are very rich.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
In the By the way, if you're a married couple
and of two people and your income's eighty four thousand
dollars a year, you still pay six percent income tax.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
I'm believable.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Well, in California, that's a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
You know, that makes living there almost unaffordable for that couple.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
But you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
You know, I think people, I think people are leaving
based on all the things we're talking about, and if
they wanted to reverse the trend, they'd have to go backwards.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
And I don't see that happening.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Not very likely. I mean, Newsome has been elected now
twice their way with overwhelming you know, numbers, and I
don't get it. I don't get why people say, hey,
we need to change here. I mean, look look at
the beaches. The beaches have needles on them. You don't
see needles on the beaches. And in forty you can't
go barefoot on a lot of the black beaches in.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
California and walk the streets barefoot. And in a lot
of these cities it's under the poop map. I mean
that cracked me up, but that was good.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
All right.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Well, Steve Moore, you're on TV tonight with us, by
the way, we'll see it tonight. Thank you, my friend,
and thank you. Uh. We had a lot of long talk.
Steve's Steve and Art Laugher Wright in a great book.
When do you think that'll come out.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
About how we're hoping to get it out in about
six months because we want to front center in that
presidential Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Perfect.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
I was amazing that Newsom said he would not run
for president.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Don't I don't.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
I don't know if I believe him.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Well, he's now said it to me on multiple occasions.
You know, I have to take people at their word
and then you know, trust but verify. Right anyway, Steve Moore,
we appreciate you, Thank you, sir. You're a good man.
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Speaker 1 (15:33):
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before we get to Curry Lake, one of the big
issues is the issue of the border, and in this case,
it came up a lot in the debate that we
had last night with California Governor Gavin Newsom and Governor
Ron De Santras of Florida and are red versus blue
state versus state debate and anyway, let me play Gavin
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accusing DeSantis of supporting amnesty for illegal immigrants, which is absurd,
and you know, for lying to migrants, and then I
pressed them on the issue of border security during this debate.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Listen to those two, and I'll be honest.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
With you, I think there's probably one person I wouldn't
listen to on this topic more than the guy that
I'm standing next to, Rond de Santis. He is absolutely
lacks any credibility on the issue of immigration. When he
was in Congress, he supported amnesty. When he's in Congress,
you supported John Bahner's bill to fact. When you were
in Congress, you supported I Killed Bob, supported Obama's efforts
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to advanced comprehensive reforms. The last guy you want to
talk to on the immigration Your immigration policy can best
be described as a governor from the state of Florida
going into another state, the state of Texas, line to migrants,
promising them jobs and housing, sending them to an island
Martha's vineyard, and then sending them to a parking lot
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in Sacramento.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
California.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I met with those migrants that you lied to under
false pretense. That kind of gamesmanship using human beings as ponds,
I think is disqualifying. So again, a guy who stands here,
who's been out on the Republican debate stage saying well,
he's going to be tough, he's going to shoot people
with backpacks, and that he has a strategy to potentially
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even invade our second largest trading partner, Mexico, that has
a record of supporting amnesty and supporting reforms under the
Obama administration, is the last guy to be spaid standing
on stage talking about the issue of immigration reform tonight.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Now there's two things that are interesting about this California
and Matha's Vineyard. I thought they offered sanctuary status for
illegal immigrants. That is their stated policy as of January one.
Gavin Newsom signing in a law anybody that is illegally
in this country, they're gonna get free healthcare medical just
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for being in the state of California. Just walk in
and there you go. You get free healthcare. Martha's Vineyard, Oh,
they were so compassionate. They threw them off that island
within twenty four hours. And we went and we found
that there were plenty of rooms in Martha's vineyard available
at the time. Let me just play one more quick
cut here when I press Governor Knwsom over the border
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security issue during this debate last night, with all of
these millions and millions of people coming into this country unvetted,
the question was and remains, is this a clear and
present danger from the country trees I put up on
the screen that's was that a clear and present danger
to America?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
The answer, what do you do in the interests Why the.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
President of the United States put a fourteen billion dollar
package in front of Congress they can act on today,
and what I haven't done anything in that years? Congress,
what do you really want a single piece and support
a border orgization. I support the fourteen billion dollar package
presidents put forward that includes twenty three hundred border agents
and customers efficient by the way, also includes eight hundred
and fifty million dollars in new technology for border security.
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You hear nothing from Ronda Santis. You hear nothing shot respectfully,
you hear nothing from the Republican Party. They play politics
almost President put for the plan up to address.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Does it worry?
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Let me ask the question another way, Does it worry
you that our top geopolitical foes and the number one
state sponsor of terror Iran, China, Russia, the Afghanistan, Syria,
that they're at our southern border. You're a border state governor,
does that does that concern you at all?
Speaker 6 (20:58):
This?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Why else did I put? The answer is yes, Why
else would I have got a national guard?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Why would I just increase it by fifty percent on
the largest port in the western hemisphere in my state?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Now? Why does any deport him to me? Is the question?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
If we look at the numbers of Iranians, six hundred
and fifty nine that we know of, six three hundred
and eighty six people from Afghanistan that we know of,
five hundred and thirty eight Syrians that we know of,
three thousand, one hundred and fifty three Egyptians that we
know of the home of the Muslim Brotherhood. In the
case of Iran, the number one state sponsor of terror
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twenty two thousand from Russia, our number one geopolitical foe,
the communist Chinese twenty two thousand, one hundred and eighty seven.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
That we know of. Now, what are the odds that we.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Have terror cells in this country because of Joe Biden's
wide open borders, I'd say one hundred percent. I hope
him pray that I'm wrong. I hope him pray that
nothing ever happens. But I don't think everybody from some
of these countries that hate us come here with the
best intention anyway. Carrie Lake is with us. She's running
for Senate in the great state of Arizona, also a
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border state.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
First, a reaction to.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
All that we don't have a border anymore. Thanks for
having me on Sean. We don't have a border. I mean,
the border is a joke. They call it porous. It's
beyond porus. It's wide open. I just saw video today
a journalist was down on the border and where President
Trump's wall is still standing. There were a bunch of
cartel members with heavy equipment taking it down, literally taking
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down portions of the border wall. And nobody's there from
our side. Our military isn't there, our border patrol they're
too busy processing people. And literally they were laughing at
the reporter, just laughing, going, yeah, we're in charge of
the border. An invasion on the border is an act
of war, and our government is failing to do anything
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about it. People of this state can't believe what's happening.
I took a group of mothers down to the border
because in our mom's coalition for our Senate run, we
talk oftentimes about the struggles that families are having, and
these moms who are running their families, helping to keep
the kids in school and pack their lunch and check
their homework, are wondering and protect their families, are wondering
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why our government's not protecting our border. And so we
went down and watched as they processed hundreds of people,
put them on buses, send them to airports to fly off.
They get a free airline ticket, they get a free phone,
they get free food, free clothes, a free help checkup,
and then they end up in a hotel in a
city near you with free housing. Meanwhile, families are struggling.
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This can't go on much longer. I even had the
Democrat mayor of Nougals, Arizona, he's supporting my border plan
because he said, the Democrats have created this problem and
it's going to take our city down with it because
they're losing funding down there in New Galley. This is
the city where all of these these people coming across
the illegal thousands and thousands and thousands every week they
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go there to get processed and put on a bus
to leave and go to another city or an airport.
And that funding is going to end, and that means
these people are going to be just roaming around this
small town of twenty two thousand, five hundred. And these
aren't people who even speak Spanish or English. They speak
all kinds of different languages. They're from Africa, they're from Asia,
they're from China, and the city, the small town of
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Nogals is very concerned about what's going to happen when
all of a sudden, hundreds of people each day are
just spilling out into that tiny community something.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
So let's talk about your race, obviously is going to
be really crucial Arizona. You have to say, has now
I've kind of been a purple state, if that's fair.
And you're going up against Kristen Cinema, what is her
position on the border, because doesn't she vote with Joe
bi over ninety five percent of the time.
Speaker 8 (25:02):
You know, it's interesting to ask. You know, she became
an independent about a year ago, and since she became
an independent. She's voted with Joe Biden one hundred percent
of the time. She's voted with Joe Biden more often
than even Chuck Schumer or Bernie Sanders. So she's trying
to fool the people of Arizona into thinking she's independent.
I'm actually literally looking at her voting record on the border.
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She voted against President Trump's plans to build the wall
on numerous occasions. She supports voting rights to illegal immigrants.
So all these people you see pouring across the border,
she's forgiving them voting rights. She's voted that way in
the past, and nothing says she wouldn't vote that way
in the future. She doesn't believe a wall is effective. Well,
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if the wall's not effective, then Joe Biden wouldn't have
had to send his people down there to weld it
open in near Lukeville, Arizona. And she's also voted to
cut salaries for immigration and customs enforcement. If we start
cutting the salary of these people border patrol ice, they're
already demoralized because of Joe Biden. We're going to start
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seeing people just walk off the job. And we need
to actually, I believe, give them bonuses and help them
do the job that they want to do, which is
protecting our border and not just processing people to come
over and invade our country.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Well, you know, MAJORCIS was down by the border yesterday
meeting with the border patrol agents that were on horseback
that were accused of whipping illegal immigrants, which they were
found not to be guilty of, but of course there
was a rush to judgment at the time. It wouldn't
even apologize to them, carry Lake. I mean, how do
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you not apologize when you were so wrong and there
were so many people that were explaining to you what
it was, the maneuvers they were making, and it was
not to whip any illegal immigrant at all. But yet
they went with that narrative, They raced the judgment, the
demonize these guys, and they don't even get an apology.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
I'm not surprised. I mean, in my opinion, Mayorkas should
be impeached and maybe even tried for allowing this to happen,
allowing this to happen to our country. You know, the
people coming here illegally, I told you what, they're getting
treated better than many Americans. They get a free cell phone,
they get a free airline, ticket, they go to the city,
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they want, they get jobs, they get you know, if
we keep voting Democrats, and they're going to have voting rights,
and so we've got to put our foot down and
start electing people who are going to take the job. Seriously.
You know, I'm a big fan of President Trump. I
worked as a journalist here in Arizona for almost thirty years,
twenty seven years.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
By the way, his policies works, stay in Mexico, work,
building a wall worked, yep.
Speaker 8 (27:47):
And during the time, you know, we've seen a lot
of politicians come and go and talk about the border.
He was the first guy that did something about it
and secured the border. And it's really simple. We just
need to go back to those policies and for starters,
let's build the wall. I mean, so many politicians and
a few of them with ours behind them named sadly,
but mainly the Democrats were pushing against President Trump building
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that wall and it was really you know, less than
ten billion dollars needed to do the job, and they
were fighting him on that. And then we watched as
they're sending nearly two hundred billion over to Ukraine, but
they don't want to protect our own border. We got
to get our priorities straight. We won't have a country
much longer if we don't protect the border. And I've
got a ten point plan on my website, Kerrielake dot com,
(28:32):
and it will secure our border starting on day one.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I quick break more with Senate Kennedy Republican Senate Kennedy
kr Lake from the Great State of Arizona on the
other side. Then we will get to your halls and
Joe Kancho will analyze Gavin Newsom and Ron De Santos
at the top of the hour as we continue.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
The final hour of that Sean Hannity show. Us up
next on for Sean's Conservative Solutions.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
I we continue now with Republican Senate candidate from Arizona,
Carrie Lakers with us. A lot of Democrats are now
even beginning to speak out, including the Senator from Arizona,
Mark Kelly, called a chaos, a complete mess. The Mayor
of New York, Eric Adams said, quote it will destroy
New York City. The Joe Biden illegal immigration issue. The
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Governor of Illinois Pritzk are saying it created an untenable situation.
The Democratic governor of Massachusetts at a federal crisis of inaction.
I think Democrats are now realizing this is their big
issue if they don't get their act together. But I
see no movement at all in it to make a
change in policy. The only way that's going to happen
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is if we get a new president.
Speaker 8 (29:58):
Absolutely, and well we know the tricks they play. They're
saying that now, surprise, surprise, were within a year of
the election, and that's when they come around and go,
oh boy, we're in trouble that people don't like our policies.
But they've never done anything to prove that once they
get re elected or elected that they'll do anything about it.
And so we need to vote these people out. You know,
(30:18):
as a mom, one of the statistics that has given
me it just keeps me up at night. I cringe
to think of what's happened is that they've lost track
about one hundred thousand children who've come across illegally. You know,
President Trump was really good. He separated them out from
the adults they came over with and did DNA testing
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to make sure that they truly were related, because he
didn't want these children sex trafficked or you know, who
knows child labor whatever, whatever nightmare they end up in
and under Joe Biden's administration in may Orchis and the
rubber stamp from Kirston Cinema, and you know Reuben Diego
here in Arizona. One hundred thousand kids missing, Where are they?
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What kind of hell are they living it? This is
just a chaos is a great word for it. But
it was, in my opinion, planned chaos because in the
first hour of taking office, Joe Biden peeled back an
incredibly effective border policy and invited the world to pour in.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I said, they should come, they should come. I've played
the cut a million times. You said that in the
Democratic debate. Well, carry Lake. By the way, your website,
you said, is carrylake dot com. People want to see
your plan, and I would just urge people to take
a look at it. And people must understand this Senate
race is going to be critical if the Republicans have
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any chance of taking back the Senate. Anyway, Carrie Lake,
I'm sure we'll talk to you a lot between now
and then. Thank you so much for being with us.
Speaker 8 (31:48):
Thanks Sean. This is the seat we can pick up
and we need everyone's support. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
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been so much news about the issue of what Joe
Biden was bragging about thinking he was going to run
his campaign on, which was biden Omics. But now even
you have the Washington Post commentator on Meet the Press
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rid of that term and get rid of it once
and for all. As we have been discussing, government has
such a big impact on our life. You know, for example,
local government has a big impact. Your school board will
have a big impact on what books your kids are
going to use to be educated with, whether or not
they're going woke, whether or not they they they want
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gender identity, crt, et cetera, et cetera. It's a big
impact on your family's life. And then of course the
ability of states to tax you and the ability of
states to regulate you to and you know, this issue
of mass migration out of blue states into red states
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is very very real. I mean, if you look, for example,
the current average of gasoline is three twenty five. It's
lower in Florida, but for eighty eight in California.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
That's insane.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
You know, under Joe Biden, prices are up about a
buck fifty a gallon. Well, everything you buy, every store
you go to. That is a big deal. And if
you look at you know, the state of Florida, they
don't have a state income tax, but they have a
thirteen percent income tax out in California. And even if
you're and they say, well, we're just taxing the rich, No,
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they're not. If you're a married couple and you're making
any four thousand dollars a year, you're still paying six
percent of your income to the state. That's on top
of whatever you pay nationally up to a top marginal
rate of just shy of forty percent.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
It's insane.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You know, you look at the impact of government spending.
It's what we're at thirty three point eight trillion dollars
in debt. How how do you ever pay that back?
I mean, these are crazy numbers. The sales tax, for example,
why why is it hiring California seven point twenty five percent?
Why is it lower in Florida at six percent. You know,
income and corporate taxes, for example, why is it thirteen
(02:25):
point three percent, eight and eight point eight percent in Florida.
Florida didn't even have a state income tax like California.
You think, well, okay, they have a state income tax,
but they charge less elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Uh, you look at all these numbers and I'll tell
you it's just it's it's killing people. When you have
two thirds of our country now sadly living paycheck to paycheck,
it is unbelievable. Let me play for you two cuts
here from last night. Then we'll check in with a friend,
Steven Moore, talking about how Newsome messed up California, the
(02:59):
first California governor to lose population, and then debating their
state taxes and the impact of that.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Let me play that what he is.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
It's a simple question, how do you explain this phenomenon, governor?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (03:14):
When I was in the Navy, I got orders to
go to Naval amphibious based Coronado in southern California, and
I was a lifeline Floridian. But I went there and
I was like, man, this is one of the most
beautiful places on Earth, and I think California has more
natural advantages than any state in the country. You almost
have to try to mess California up. Yeah, that's what
Gavin Newsom has done since he's been governor. He's the
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first governor to ever lose population. They actually at one
point ran out of U hauls in the state of
California because so many people were leaving. Of course, he's
imposed restrictions on his own people while exempting himself from
those restrictions and going to the French laundry while his
people were suffering. He led the country in school closures,
(03:56):
locking kids out of school while he had his own
kids in private school. In person, now, he's very good
at spinning these these tails. He's good at being slick
and slippery. He'll tell a blizzard of lies to be
able to try to mask the failures. But the reality
is they have failed because of his leftist ideology.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
California has lower taxes, lower than thirty two states for
working families in the middle class, significantly lower taxes.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
That's life, Texas.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Do you support a six percent income tax people, I'm.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Going to for aggressive taxes that advantage billionaires and millionaires
over working families in the working poor people in his
state pay more taxes in the low end than we
tax people on the high that's.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Saying seven dollars a gallon and this gas help working people.
That doesn't help working people at all. How does paying
an eight percent sales tax help working people. That doesn't
help working people at all. They have the highest taxes
in the nation. People flee to be able to save
money to get out of California, and you have working
class people that moved to these other states their dollars
(05:02):
go much further. But here's the thing. They want to
take this Biden nomics, and they want to double down
on this for the next four years. How many people
are able to afford groceries now compared to what you
were doing three or four years ago. I talked to people,
you know, I talked to a woman who had a
cart full of groceries going in and they're ringing it
up and it got to be so expensive she has
(05:23):
to take a lot of the stuff out. That didn't
used to be the case. People used to be able
to work hard and get ahead. That is not true
under Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
All right, joining us now, Steve Moore is with us,
author of the bestseller Trumpanomics, Inside the American First Plan
to revive our economy. I want to give credit to
Steve when this debate came up and became public, he
confided to me. And by the way, I hope I
can say this on the air. You have been doing
a deep dive into blue state red state?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Is Is that okay to say?
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (05:55):
Our laughter and I have been working on this for
twenty years, Sean, And it's the working title of the
buck we're only halfway through, is called the Blue State Meltdown.
And of course there's no blue state that is melting
down faster than California, except maybe New York.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Well, okay, so, how do you explain a loss of
in the last in the last two years, we have
on record seven hundred and fifty thousand people leaving California
and nearly five hundred thousand going to Florida. And that
was my first question last night, right out of the box,
how do you explain this phenomenon? And look, avin you know,
(06:32):
he's very good at deflecting. He never really gave an
answer on that. He had a prepared first opening statement,
if you will, that he went to and I went
back to him, I said, but you still didn't answer
the question. I was trying to be respectful, and we
still didn't get an answer in terms of the phenomenon.
He just wanted to attack Governor DeSantis. But you know,
(06:52):
how do you explain that if I'm the governor, I'm
the first governor to lose population in my state. I
think I'd be looking in the mirror and asking myself why.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
This is happening.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Yeah, you know, after that debate last night, by the way, you, Shawn,
you did an amazing job. That was a great work
in terms of being the real chaperone of that debate.
I was struck by the fact. I mean you had
to ask Gevin Knew some questions three four times before
he would answer. In some cases he never answered those questions, including.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I'd say said, I said, wait a minute, can you
just answer the question. I'm going to get to your
answer and then do whatever he wanted right.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
Well, you know what they're calling him today is the
artful badger because he doted all your questions. But the
toughest one for him to answer is how can a
place like California and the Fantis handled this very well?
I mean, let's face it, you've lived in California. I
a dore a most beautiful place on the planet. It's
a little slice of heaven. Beautiful beaches, beautiful mountains, beautiful women.
(07:52):
You know what's not the like about California and the
progressive movement. It's not just it's not just the governor
knew some It's been happening now for ten or fifteen years.
High taxes, high regulation, forced union rules. You know, just
as an example, the governor there wants to outlaw gas
cars over the next five or six years. I mean,
(08:12):
come on, the government's going to tell you what kind
of car you can buy.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
You know.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
The other thing that's happening in California that's really sad
is that the middle class is being held out there
because you can't afford to live there. You know, you
were being charitable, and you know, I looked at these
gas prices. It's about three h five today. It's almost
five dollars a gallon in many areas, So you're paying
two bucks a gallon. Think about this, two dollars a
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gallon more to fill up your tank in California than Florida. Well,
that's thirty bucks a week. You know, it's a tax.
It's a tax they tax.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
And by the way, and who's impact Who does that
impact the most? That impacts the poor, the middle class
the most. And they got to use that money to
get to work so they can put food on their
table and pay their rent. And guess what that thirty
bucks is a lot of money to people.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
Well, look, this is why this debate was so important.
I'm so I'm just so pleased you sponsored this, because
the whole debate of America, really, the whole election in
twenty twenty four, really is going to be about do
you want America to look more like New York and
California as you're thinking, or do you want it to
look like in like vaud Brint, places like Texas and
Arizona and North Carolina and of course Florida that are
(09:25):
booming today. You know, if California stays on the same
trend that it's been on for the last five years,
think about this, Sean, it will lose three or four
congressional seats in the next census. That's how many people
are leaving California. That's never happened before in one hundred
and fifty years.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It's never happened, and having lived there five years in
the early part of my life in the eighties, I
remember at the time my sister and I had a
two bedrooms that we shared for a while, and it
was like seven hundred and twenty five bucks a month
at the time. It seemed like an enormous amount back then,
but it was what it was, and I'd go out,
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work hard and pay the rent every month. But yeah,
that is a tax. Everything else is a tax, and
except for property taxes, and that's only because of Prop
thirteen out out in California, all the taxes are higher.
And in California over Florida, and they don't have a
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thirteen percent you know, income tax.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Thirteen percent.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I mean that's on top of let's say you pay
the forty percent radio thirty nine and a half percent. Okay,
just to add the numbers up, that's fifty three cents
out of every dollar just in income taxes if you
live in that state.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Well, we're gonna have to start calling it Taxifornia. I mean,
it's amazing California versus Porida. California, as you just mentioned,
has this thirteen and a half percent highest income tax rate.
Zero in Florida. The middle class tax rate, depending on
how you define the middle classes, somewhere between seven and
nine per percent California. It's zero in Florida. And then,
(11:01):
as you said, then they have a higher gas tax,
they have a higher corporate tax rate, they have a
higher capital gains tax, they have a higher tax. I mean,
what's the old joke if it moves, tax it. That
seems to be the philosophy in California. And by by
the way, that state could be turned around. It's hard
to believe, isn't it. Tean that you know, fifty years
ago Ronald Reagan was the governor of California and now
(11:25):
it has turned so far to the left. This is
progressive governments, folks. How do you like it? Homeless people
on the streets built no, you know, the fentanyl crisis,
border out of control, that's what they I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Desanta said that Verdi, by the way, violent crime rates
were so much higher. It was twice the rate per
one hundred thousand than the state of Florida.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I mean, that is impacting everyday life.
Speaker 7 (11:49):
How is it last night that Gavin Newsom said they
have a higher murder rate. I mean, some of the statistics.
I don't know, he just pulled him out of his
hat because that's not true. I think you showed on
the screen that the crime rate is double in California
what it is in Florida, and yet he totally just
denied it.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
All right, quick break right back.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
We'll continue more with Steve Moore on the other side
than your calls coming up right as we continue. Steve
Moore is for this author of the bestseller Trumpnomics. One
of the things that I didn't want to do is
insert myself too much into this debate. When when somebody
wouldn't answer a very straight question, I would go back
in and say, okay, can you now answer the question.
We heard the speech, now you know answer. But look,
(12:32):
I don't know what his motivation was. I'm glad he came.
I'm glad he did it. Yeah, he himself. He's very personable.
His family is very nice. I met his wife. They
have a you know, great family. I have some issues
with the people around him, but I'll save that for
another day. The behind the scenes, there's a whole book
(12:54):
in that. But you know it's I'm just asking people,
what do you prefer? Why do the people at California
not want to explore the possibility that life can be
very different for them.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Well, it's a great question. I mean, you have you know,
California has been a state now where it really is
the very very rich who can afford to pay those
massive taxes because they're you know, the people of Silicon
Valley for example, you know, the billionaires, they can afford
to pay that high tax rate. And then at the
bottom of the ladder, you know, California has the most
generous welfare benefits. So it's people at very rich and
(13:28):
people are very poor that you I think you said
it last night or just Anta said it. California has
one of the highest rates of income inequality. I thought
the left was against incoming equality because the only people
can afford to live there are very rich.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
In the By the way, if you're a married couple
and of two people and your income's eighty four thousand
dollars a year, you still pay six percent income tax.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
I'm believable.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Well, in California, that's a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
You know, that makes living there almost unaffordable for that couple.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
But you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
You know, I think people, I think people are leaving
based on all the things we're talking about, and if
they wanted to reverse the trend, they'd have to go backwards.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
And I don't see that happening.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Not very likely. I mean, Newsome has been elected now
twice their way with overwhelming you know, numbers, and I
don't get it. I don't get why people say, hey,
we need to change here. I mean, look look at
the beaches. The beaches have needles on them. You don't
see needles on the beaches. And in forty you can't
go barefoot on a lot of the black beaches in.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
California and walk the streets barefoot. And in a lot
of these cities it's under the poop map. I mean
that cracked me up, but that was good.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
All right.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Well, Steve Moore, you're on TV tonight with us, by
the way, we'll see it tonight. Thank you, my friend,
and thank you. Uh. We had a lot of long talk.
Steve's Steve and Art Laugher Wright in a great book.
When do you think that'll come out.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
About how we're hoping to get it out in about
six months because we want to front center in that
presidential Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Perfect.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
I was amazing that Newsom said he would not run
for president.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Don't I don't.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
I don't know if I believe him.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Well, he's now said it to me on multiple occasions.
You know, I have to take people at their word
and then you know, trust but verify. Right anyway, Steve Moore,
we appreciate you, Thank you, sir. You're a good man.
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before we get to Curry Lake, one of the big
issues is the issue of the border, and in this case,
it came up a lot in the debate that we
had last night with California Governor Gavin Newsom and Governor
Ron De Santras of Florida and are red versus blue
state versus state debate and anyway, let me play Gavin
(17:22):
accusing DeSantis of supporting amnesty for illegal immigrants, which is absurd,
and you know, for lying to migrants, and then I
pressed them on the issue of border security during this debate.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Listen to those two, and I'll be honest.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
With you, I think there's probably one person I wouldn't
listen to on this topic more than the guy that
I'm standing next to, Rond de Santis. He is absolutely
lacks any credibility on the issue of immigration. When he
was in Congress, he supported amnesty. When he's in Congress,
you supported John Bahner's bill to fact. When you were
in Congress, you supported I Killed Bob, supported Obama's efforts
(18:03):
to advanced comprehensive reforms. The last guy you want to
talk to on the immigration Your immigration policy can best
be described as a governor from the state of Florida
going into another state, the state of Texas, line to migrants,
promising them jobs and housing, sending them to an island
Martha's vineyard, and then sending them to a parking lot
(18:25):
in Sacramento.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
California.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I met with those migrants that you lied to under
false pretense. That kind of gamesmanship using human beings as ponds,
I think is disqualifying. So again, a guy who stands here,
who's been out on the Republican debate stage saying well,
he's going to be tough, he's going to shoot people
with backpacks, and that he has a strategy to potentially
(18:48):
even invade our second largest trading partner, Mexico, that has
a record of supporting amnesty and supporting reforms under the
Obama administration, is the last guy to be spaid standing
on stage talking about the issue of immigration reform tonight.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Now there's two things that are interesting about this California
and Matha's Vineyard. I thought they offered sanctuary status for
illegal immigrants. That is their stated policy as of January one.
Gavin Newsom signing in a law anybody that is illegally
in this country, they're gonna get free healthcare medical just
(19:25):
for being in the state of California. Just walk in
and there you go. You get free healthcare. Martha's Vineyard, Oh,
they were so compassionate. They threw them off that island
within twenty four hours. And we went and we found
that there were plenty of rooms in Martha's vineyard available
at the time. Let me just play one more quick
cut here when I press Governor Knwsom over the border
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security issue during this debate last night, with all of
these millions and millions of people coming into this country unvetted,
the question was and remains, is this a clear and
present danger from the country trees I put up on
the screen that's was that a clear and present danger
to America?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
The answer, what do you do in the interests Why the.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
President of the United States put a fourteen billion dollar
package in front of Congress they can act on today,
and what I haven't done anything in that years? Congress,
what do you really want a single piece and support
a border orgization. I support the fourteen billion dollar package
presidents put forward that includes twenty three hundred border agents
and customers efficient by the way, also includes eight hundred
and fifty million dollars in new technology for border security.
(20:29):
You hear nothing from Ronda Santis. You hear nothing shot respectfully,
you hear nothing from the Republican Party. They play politics
almost President put for the plan up to address.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Does it worry?
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Let me ask the question another way, Does it worry
you that our top geopolitical foes and the number one
state sponsor of terror Iran, China, Russia, the Afghanistan, Syria,
that they're at our southern border. You're a border state governor,
does that does that concern you at all?
Speaker 6 (20:58):
This?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Why else did I put? The answer is yes, Why
else would I have got a national guard?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Why would I just increase it by fifty percent on
the largest port in the western hemisphere in my state?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Now? Why does any deport him to me? Is the question?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
If we look at the numbers of Iranians, six hundred
and fifty nine that we know of, six three hundred
and eighty six people from Afghanistan that we know of,
five hundred and thirty eight Syrians that we know of,
three thousand, one hundred and fifty three Egyptians that we
know of the home of the Muslim Brotherhood. In the
case of Iran, the number one state sponsor of terror
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twenty two thousand from Russia, our number one geopolitical foe,
the communist Chinese twenty two thousand, one hundred and eighty seven.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
That we know of. Now, what are the odds that we.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Have terror cells in this country because of Joe Biden's
wide open borders, I'd say one hundred percent. I hope
him pray that I'm wrong. I hope him pray that
nothing ever happens. But I don't think everybody from some
of these countries that hate us come here with the
best intention anyway. Carrie Lake is with us. She's running
for Senate in the great state of Arizona, also a
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border state.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
First, a reaction to.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
All that we don't have a border anymore. Thanks for
having me on Sean. We don't have a border. I mean,
the border is a joke. They call it porous. It's
beyond porus. It's wide open. I just saw video today
a journalist was down on the border and where President
Trump's wall is still standing. There were a bunch of
cartel members with heavy equipment taking it down, literally taking
(22:36):
down portions of the border wall. And nobody's there from
our side. Our military isn't there, our border patrol they're
too busy processing people. And literally they were laughing at
the reporter, just laughing, going, yeah, we're in charge of
the border. An invasion on the border is an act
of war, and our government is failing to do anything
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about it. People of this state can't believe what's happening.
I took a group of mothers down to the border
because in our mom's coalition for our Senate run, we
talk oftentimes about the struggles that families are having, and
these moms who are running their families, helping to keep
the kids in school and pack their lunch and check
their homework, are wondering and protect their families, are wondering
(23:19):
why our government's not protecting our border. And so we
went down and watched as they processed hundreds of people,
put them on buses, send them to airports to fly off.
They get a free airline ticket, they get a free phone,
they get free food, free clothes, a free help checkup,
and then they end up in a hotel in a
city near you with free housing. Meanwhile, families are struggling.
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This can't go on much longer. I even had the
Democrat mayor of Nougals, Arizona, he's supporting my border plan
because he said, the Democrats have created this problem and
it's going to take our city down with it because
they're losing funding down there in New Galley. This is
the city where all of these these people coming across
the illegal thousands and thousands and thousands every week they
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go there to get processed and put on a bus
to leave and go to another city or an airport.
And that funding is going to end, and that means
these people are going to be just roaming around this
small town of twenty two thousand, five hundred. And these
aren't people who even speak Spanish or English. They speak
all kinds of different languages. They're from Africa, they're from Asia,
they're from China, and the city, the small town of
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Nogals is very concerned about what's going to happen when
all of a sudden, hundreds of people each day are
just spilling out into that tiny community something.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
So let's talk about your race, obviously is going to
be really crucial Arizona. You have to say, has now
I've kind of been a purple state, if that's fair.
And you're going up against Kristen Cinema, what is her
position on the border, because doesn't she vote with Joe
bi over ninety five percent of the time.
Speaker 8 (25:02):
You know, it's interesting to ask. You know, she became
an independent about a year ago, and since she became
an independent. She's voted with Joe Biden one hundred percent
of the time. She's voted with Joe Biden more often
than even Chuck Schumer or Bernie Sanders. So she's trying
to fool the people of Arizona into thinking she's independent.
I'm actually literally looking at her voting record on the border.
(25:25):
She voted against President Trump's plans to build the wall
on numerous occasions. She supports voting rights to illegal immigrants.
So all these people you see pouring across the border,
she's forgiving them voting rights. She's voted that way in
the past, and nothing says she wouldn't vote that way
in the future. She doesn't believe a wall is effective. Well,
(25:45):
if the wall's not effective, then Joe Biden wouldn't have
had to send his people down there to weld it
open in near Lukeville, Arizona. And she's also voted to
cut salaries for immigration and customs enforcement. If we start
cutting the salary of these people border patrol ice, they're
already demoralized because of Joe Biden. We're going to start
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seeing people just walk off the job. And we need
to actually, I believe, give them bonuses and help them
do the job that they want to do, which is
protecting our border and not just processing people to come
over and invade our country.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Well, you know, MAJORCIS was down by the border yesterday
meeting with the border patrol agents that were on horseback
that were accused of whipping illegal immigrants, which they were
found not to be guilty of, but of course there
was a rush to judgment at the time. It wouldn't
even apologize to them, carry Lake. I mean, how do
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you not apologize when you were so wrong and there
were so many people that were explaining to you what
it was, the maneuvers they were making, and it was
not to whip any illegal immigrant at all. But yet
they went with that narrative, They raced the judgment, the
demonize these guys, and they don't even get an apology.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
I'm not surprised. I mean, in my opinion, Mayorkas should
be impeached and maybe even tried for allowing this to happen,
allowing this to happen to our country. You know, the
people coming here illegally, I told you what, they're getting
treated better than many Americans. They get a free cell phone,
they get a free airline, ticket, they go to the city,
(27:23):
they want, they get jobs, they get you know, if
we keep voting Democrats, and they're going to have voting rights,
and so we've got to put our foot down and
start electing people who are going to take the job. Seriously.
You know, I'm a big fan of President Trump. I
worked as a journalist here in Arizona for almost thirty years,
twenty seven years.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
By the way, his policies works, stay in Mexico, work,
building a wall worked, yep.
Speaker 8 (27:47):
And during the time, you know, we've seen a lot
of politicians come and go and talk about the border.
He was the first guy that did something about it
and secured the border. And it's really simple. We just
need to go back to those policies and for starters,
let's build the wall. I mean, so many politicians and
a few of them with ours behind them named sadly,
but mainly the Democrats were pushing against President Trump building
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that wall and it was really you know, less than
ten billion dollars needed to do the job, and they
were fighting him on that. And then we watched as
they're sending nearly two hundred billion over to Ukraine, but
they don't want to protect our own border. We got
to get our priorities straight. We won't have a country
much longer if we don't protect the border. And I've
got a ten point plan on my website, Kerrielake dot com,
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and it will secure our border starting on day one.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I quick break more with Senate Kennedy Republican Senate Kennedy
kr Lake from the Great State of Arizona on the
other side. Then we will get to your halls and
Joe Kancho will analyze Gavin Newsom and Ron De Santos
at the top of the hour as we continue.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
The final hour of that Sean Hannity show. Us up
next on for Sean's Conservative Solutions.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
I we continue now with Republican Senate candidate from Arizona,
Carrie Lakers with us. A lot of Democrats are now
even beginning to speak out, including the Senator from Arizona,
Mark Kelly, called a chaos, a complete mess. The Mayor
of New York, Eric Adams said, quote it will destroy
New York City. The Joe Biden illegal immigration issue. The
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Governor of Illinois Pritzk are saying it created an untenable situation.
The Democratic governor of Massachusetts at a federal crisis of inaction.
I think Democrats are now realizing this is their big
issue if they don't get their act together. But I
see no movement at all in it to make a
change in policy. The only way that's going to happen
(29:56):
is if we get a new president.
Speaker 8 (29:58):
Absolutely, and well we know the tricks they play. They're
saying that now, surprise, surprise, were within a year of
the election, and that's when they come around and go,
oh boy, we're in trouble that people don't like our policies.
But they've never done anything to prove that once they
get re elected or elected that they'll do anything about it.
And so we need to vote these people out. You know,
(30:18):
as a mom, one of the statistics that has given
me it just keeps me up at night. I cringe
to think of what's happened is that they've lost track
about one hundred thousand children who've come across illegally. You know,
President Trump was really good. He separated them out from
the adults they came over with and did DNA testing
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to make sure that they truly were related, because he
didn't want these children sex trafficked or you know, who
knows child labor whatever, whatever nightmare they end up in
and under Joe Biden's administration in may Orchis and the
rubber stamp from Kirston Cinema, and you know Reuben Diego
here in Arizona. One hundred thousand kids missing, Where are they?
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What kind of hell are they living it? This is
just a chaos is a great word for it. But
it was, in my opinion, planned chaos because in the
first hour of taking office, Joe Biden peeled back an
incredibly effective border policy and invited the world to pour in.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I said, they should come, they should come. I've played
the cut a million times. You said that in the
Democratic debate. Well, carry Lake. By the way, your website,
you said, is carrylake dot com. People want to see
your plan, and I would just urge people to take
a look at it. And people must understand this Senate
race is going to be critical if the Republicans have
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any chance of taking back the Senate. Anyway, Carrie Lake,
I'm sure we'll talk to you a lot between now
and then. Thank you so much for being with us.
Speaker 8 (31:48):
Thanks Sean. This is the seat we can pick up
and we need everyone's support. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
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