January 30, 2023 • 32 mins
Sean kicks off the show with the tragic story of Tyre Nichols. There are good cops and bad cops and details matter but we should be very careful to avoid the cancel culture that screams for "defund the police." It doesn't work.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, thanks Scott Shannon, and thanks to all of
you toll free on numbers eight hundred and ninety four one. Sean,
if you want to be a part of the program.
By now, most of you have, not all of you,
I'm sure have seen the incident with the police, five
officers and Tyree Nichols, which ultimately resulted in his death.
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I guess it is any surprise, and they really shouldn't
be a surprise here. Everybody knows they're good cops. I
would say the majority of them are my own personal
experience in life. I've had a couple of cops that,
you know, we're really obnoxiousness in a lot of ways, yes,
and no matter how polite you're even being, and they just,
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I don't know, have a chip on this shoulder, baby,
they're having a bad day whatever it happens to be.
Guess the biggest surprisies to me is the number of
people that have decided that in spite of the fact
that all the officers in this case, all five of
them are black, and the and Tyree Nichols is black,
and and they're still trying to turn this into a
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race case. You know, latest person to do this this morning,
apparently was New York City Mayor Eric Adams on fake
News CNN saying that race played a major role in
Nichols murder. I'm having a hard time understanding how they
got there because, you know, the police chief, who happens
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to be African American herself, said, races off the table
in this case. Adam says. You know, when I asked,
do you agree that races off the table, No, I don't,
he says. I think race is still on the table.
When a culture of policing historically has treated those from
different groups differently, even when the individuals are from the
same group, that culture can still exist. I think this
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is simply it's not more complicated than what you see
this as. This is a case of you know, there
are good cops and there are not good cops. I'd
like to think the majority of people that I my
experience has been people are going to law enforcement. They
know they're taken on a very difficult job. They know
that they know that they can lose their life at
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any given minute. They all know that they take on
the risk to protect and to serve their communities. That's
what I've discovered in the course of my life. Are
there bad apples and every field, sure, including broadcasting. I
can name the names you'd recognize easily, but that's a
different story for a different day. So, you know, in
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the wake of this, and I'm looking at so many
people in their comments, and I'm trying to understand how
they got to the positions that they got, you know,
by saying the things that they've been saying. And yet
it just goes on and on and on, and you know,
even to the point where you have the Biden administration.
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They've now made a decision to open a civil rights
investigation into the Tyree Nichols murder. Jonathan Turley wrote a
great piece about that. He said the move of the
Justice Department opened a civil rights investigation as apprising. He
denounced the killing and went on to say that even
the Memphis Police chief told the public that the race
of the officers takes off the table that issue and
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brings into the forefront problems in law enforcement. You know
that they're about race, basically saying that that's not the case.
That was a general rule that such civil rights investigations
would follow state investigations and state charges. That rule was
discarded by the Obama administration in cases like the case
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of Trayvon Martin, after the fanfare of the investigation, the
administration quietly shut it down and did not bring any charges. Remember,
you had eyewitness testimony that we didn't know till the
very end, although I knew it was coming because I
had my sources, which is why we always end up
being right on all of these cases. I had sourced
is in Ferguson, Missouri that were telling me, Sean, there
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are multiple African Americans that corroborate the officer's story about
Michael Brown and that this hands up, don't shoot incident
never happened, and Michael Brown was the one that reached
into the police officer's car and struggled for his gun
when the shot first shot went off, and then Michael
Brown charged the police officer. All of that corroborated by
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African Americans testifying in the case. Just like I was
tipped off that none of these officers in the Freddie
Great case in Baltimore were ever going to be found
guilty of anything, and everyone had predicted that they would
be guilty verdicts, and I said, they're not going to
be guilty verdicts. In this case, I'm not even sure.
What they haven't done yet is broken down and identified
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each officer in their specific role in this incident with
Tyree Nichols. You know, certainly the officer that you know
ran up and kicked him in the head twice is
going to be one of those people that will rightly
be charged with second degree murder or the people that
are wailing on them and beating the hell out of them.
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You know what's so frustrating to me is you got
five officers there that are supposed to be trained officers
of an elite unit which since has now been disbanded
over the weekend's supposed to be part of an elite unit.
And five guys couldn't cuff one one person, one young man,
And that tells me that their training is poor. You know,
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it's if you know basic you know jiu jitsu manipulations.
I'm telling you, you you could take somebody's fingers and get
them to comply. You can get their risk to put
it in a kartagashi wrist lock, and they're going to comply.
And these are not hard maneuvers for police officers to
be trained in the use of. Well, you got five
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on one. The other thing that really struck me is
where was that one officer to walk over when they
have full control of Tyree Nichols on the ground and
he wasn't fully complying by getting completely on his on
his waist, on his you know, late put his face down,
and he was obviously he was upset that he was
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pulled over. Obviously he want an answers to questions. The
cops were just frustrated, seemingly from the get go, But
there wasn't one guy that walked over and said, all right, everybody,
take a deep breath. What's your name? Tyree? Okay, Tyree,
listen to me. You gotta take it easy here. Our
goal is not to hurt you. Our goal is to
get to the bottom of what has gone on here,
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and we need your help and we need your cooperation.
I don't want you getting hurt. I don't want our
officers getting hurt. I have five guys here. You're not
going to get away. We're not going to hurt you.
We just want to question you. I'm asking for your cooperation.
You know, that tone a cadence probably could. It may
not have worked, It may not work every time, but
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it's certainly gonna have an impact by a lot of people.
I think that would have an impact on tons of people, so,
you know, and then then this race to bring up
the racial issue. You know, they I'm having a hard
time understanding some of the comments with so many people
as it relates to, you know, the coverage in this
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particular case. You know, I just it makes no sense
to me. I have a montage of some of the media,
let me play it for you blaming race for Tyree
Nichols's death. Listen, this is an outrage and race still
is involved, Joey, you and I spoke about on the phone,
because I don't believe those five cops would have done
that to a young white on a traffic stop. I'm
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not surprised that the officers here were black, because when
we talk about race and policing, we talk about the
way black men, black women, black people are perceived in
the way they are perceived by all of us, and
so anti black racism, the idea of thinking of black
men and women as prone divide islands, as dangerous, as
bigger or stronger or more insiduous than they really are,
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something that can affect all of our minds and Black
people are not immune from that as well. There's this
very simplistic notion that says, well, if a white cop
is doing something to an unarmed black person, then that's racism,
but we sometimes forget Unfortunately, African Americans can also be
guilty of hatred and bias and bigotry against other African Americans.
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But I think a racist still on the table. When
a culture of policing historically has treated those from different
groups differently, even when the individuals are from that same group,
that culture can still exist, and we have to zero
in on it, being honest about it, and making sure
that we properly train police for the realities of the
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cities that they are policing in. It shouldn't be a
surprise to people that individual black people can actually do
anti black things anyway. Who knows the history of enslavement,
Anyone who knows the history of policing knows that black
people can do anti black things, and communities of color
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they often have different types of policing than many of
our white brothers and sisters having their community and this
video illustrates it that it's this culture that says it
doesn't matter whether the police officers are black, Hispanic, or white,
that it is somehow allowed for you to tramp on
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the constitutional rights of certain citizens from certain ethnicities and
certain communities. This has nothing to this case had nothing
to do with race that I can see. The officers
were black, all of them. The case of Tyree Nichols,
he was black. I could see bad policing. I could
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see poor training, I could see a lack of professionalism.
I mean it's like these cops personally, there was five
of them and they couldn't even get this this young
man in handcuffs. And you have to ask why, why
couldn't this have been handled better? This kid did not
need to be kicked in the head, beaten, silly, you know,
have frustrated cops, you know. And by the way, how
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many times have I said that stupid taser's junk. I've
said it's so many times, and sure, click click click,
click click boom doesn't work. Van Jones writing on Fake
News CNN that the police that killed Tyree Nichols were black,
but they still might have been driven by racism. The
narrative that white cop kills unarmed black man should never
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have been the sole lens through which we attempted to
understand police abuse and misconduct. It's time to move to
a more nuanced discussion of the way police violence and
dangers black lives. Black people are not immune to anti
black messages, he said. One of the sad facts about
anti black racism is that black people ourselves are not
immune to its pernicious effects. Society's message that the black
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black people are inferior, unworthy, and dangerous is pervasive. Well,
are you saying that the black officers. There's so many,
by the way, police departments in the country where they
have majority minority police departments, and you know, MPR, you
have Ben Crump is on a spot on here. When
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you look at this, it's never really about the demographics
or the ethnicity or the racial makeup of the and
the racial makeup of the officer. It's about demographics, the
ethnicity and racial makeup of the person who is being police.
That's that is wrong. Revernel Sharpton. Tyree Nichols death is
an outrage and race is still involved, you know, Ben Crump, ABC,
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It's not the race of the police officer that is
the determining factor of whether they're going to engage in
excessive force. But it is the race of the citizen.
And this this these common, well widespread. Jamiel Hill claiming
that black people can carry water for white supremacy, you're
stuck on faces, you know, making that statement. I just
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see bad policing overall. I see five cops that are
supposed to be professionally trained incapable, five of them of
handcuffing one suspect, you know, for what seems like a
minor infraction, and when a guy's screaming for their mother
and he's that by the time they had the second encounter,
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if they didn't realize that they were not going to
calm the suspect down. Things needed to be treated very,
very differently, instead of anger, instead of you know, spring
mace at the guy, instead of you know, man handling
the kid. This young man, they could have handled it
a thousand different ways and professionally, and if he still resisted,
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as it would take force to get him in handcuffs.
But five officers that are in an elite unit ought
to be able to do that in their sleep for
crying out loud shouldn't be that difficult. Anyway. We'll have
a debate on it coming up later in the program today. Look,
I mean it went on Jamal Hill claiming black people
can carry water from white supremacy. You're stuck on faces
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will be Goldberg. Do we need to see a white
person also get beat before anybody will do anything? So
many other people said it, Sarah Haynes, the fact that
it was black officers doesn't matter. It's the victim. You know,
how do you how do you make the leap here?
And would there have been a different reaction of people
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there if the wall, if there were different races involved, probably,
I guess maybe, probably, because there are some people that
always want to push that narrative. Here is a reality.
There are good and bad people in every profession. Would
I take out of this more than anything else is
that you had five officers here and you had one
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suspect here, and what we're talking about, quote reckless driving.
I don't know what happened. I didn't see that portion
of the tape to sufficiently come to any conclusion. It
was early in the evening, no indication that he used
any drugs. But I did see this kid laying in
his hospital bed with his head kicked in. I did
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see the officer, you know, run up and kick him
right in the head, not once, but twice. I did
see this kid getting beaten on the ground, and I
did hear the voices of officers that sounded about as
unprofessional as you'd ever expect. And there wasn't one of
them that said, all right, guys, let's slow down here,
all right, you know, sir, sir, we need your cooperation.
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Listen to me. Nobody wants to get hurt here. We
have to do our job. We're going to ask you
for your cooperation. You know. It's not like he well
he did get up at one point, which, by the way,
she should not happened either. And then when the cops
are chasing Tyree, they weren't even close to being able
to keep up with them. And I know they have
heavy equipment on, but we're crying out loud. You gotta
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your cop, you gotta stay in decent shape. Pretty unreal, um, so,
you know, And then why bring up civil rights charges
in this case? That's what Joe Biden is now done.
But I guess it could things could have gotten worse,
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Jonathan Turley's really had a good point today wrote an
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public Biden is committed in the classified document scandal to
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putting forward the word transparent, but then they keep finding
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you know, his personal library in Wilmington, but nobody's talking
about and I'd even forgotten about until I read Turley's column,
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when he was vice president and then contemplated a run
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away by giving them to the university, which has claimed
now for over a decade that they're still working on
organizing and cataloging the documents. Really for over a decade,
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it's taking you that long. Anyway, he's refused to allow
the public or the press to see any of the documents.
And with all these recent reports and requests by the
Justice Department that every former president vice president with top
secret information possibly in their hands, that we'd asked that
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you kindly would look anyway. The university has been used
for years to shield potentially embarrassing documents from public review
for the Biden administration. Now, how does this sit with you,
as the most transparent administration in history. The answer to
the question is obvious, it does not. That's the bottom line.
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By the way, Dick Morris is predicting that the class
of Eyed documents scandal involving Biden, and of course the
probes into the family syndicate of financial dealings, will doom
his election bid. He said, this is going to be
the absolute end for Biden. He said, I'm not so
sure if this is the end for Biden. I don't
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think it's the documents. I think it's the money. I
think when America really wraps its mind and fully understands
the countries that Hunter was dealing with, the lies that
Joe told, Joe's involvement in all of this photographic meetings,
lying about never having spoken to his son or any
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family member about his foreign business dealings evidence to the contrary,
and then following the money and seeing how the Bidens
have enriched themselves with some of our biggest you know,
geopolitical foes, you know, China's donation to you penn just
an enormous amount of money, and then you penned professors
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lobby successfully Merrick Garland to stop an investigation into espionage.
And then the one point five billion dollars deal with
the Bank of China, then one hundred thousand dollars shopping spree,
then in no interest forgiveablet five million dollar alone. That's
just one country, never mind Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhs. Then we've
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gone over this in great specificity, in great detail. Robert
Gates gave an interview about Biden's handling of the war
in Ukraine and said that he should have been doing
things differently, said that the things the administration is currently doing,
shipping tanks other critical military hardware, that should have been
done months ago. What have I said? Why? What has
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now happened here? Now? It looks like a long drawn
out quagmire and an extended conflict, because we don't fight
wars to win wars anymore, you know, we fight for
a tie ostensibly, and then we get locked in in perpetuity.
And meanwhile, Western Europe has not been doing their fair
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share of defending this in their own backyard, which tells
me that you know the responsibilities on them American TAC
we cannot afford to fight the war for Zolinsky. If
they wanted to fight it and give him the weaponry
to win it and win it fast, they should have
done that a long time ago. Oh, we're afraid Vladimir
(22:04):
has nuclear weapons. Well, if Vladimir's plan is to use
tactical nuclear weapons, then that's on him. The world will
rightfully respond. I hope and pray that day doesn't come,
but it's always been a possibility. We do have ex
Twitter employees that will be testifying before the House Intelligence Committee.
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That ought to get interesting in the House Oversight Committee,
so we'll find out what's going on there. Anyway, we
have both Senator Warner and Senator Marco Rubio calling for
document for the document oversight in the National Security They
just want to know what's in this in other words,
with sources and methods compromised in any way. But I
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will tell you this, with the help of the corrupt
media in this country, I will send The Washington Times
had a really good editorial about this. Their cover up
is in full swing. You know, when he vowed and
Jensaki said, will bring transparency and truth back to government.
No bigger lie has been told than that one, except
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maybe when he said he never talked to Hunter or
any family member about his foreign business dealings. But now
they've turned out to be the lat least transparent administration
in modern history. You know, the Treasury Department responding. For example,
Congress is up and running and the Treasury Department is
we have Congressman Comerce Center request to provide information on
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Biden family financial transactions that have been marked suspicious. Suspicious
activity reports is what they call any over a certain
amount of money, Like if you, for example, take out
more than ten thousand dollars, that report usually gets triggered,
which is fine. I mean, it's your money. You should
be able to do whatever you want with your own money.
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But that's separate and apart. I think the money issue,
you know, did Hunter really give half a salary to Pops?
Did Hunter really pay for the repairs at pops home?
Did Hunter, you know, put aside X number of millions
of dollars for the big guy. Because if that's the
case and that happened, now you got a whole series
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of violations. You got FARA violations, you got tax violations. Now,
you can't prosecute a sitting president, but if he's not elected,
he could be prosecuted, and certainly Hunter would be. It
took the Biden administration sixty eight days to disclose to
you the American people that they even had classified information.
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They found it six days before the mid term elections.
And the Department of Justice in his executive branch, they
knew about it from the get go. What else do
we have here? Now? This is pretty interesting. How many
of you would like an eight point seven percent pay increase?
(25:01):
I bet a lot of you would like an eight
point seven percent pay increase, especially if you got a
four point six pay raise this year and you're a
federal government employee whecause that's what Democrats now are proposing
to give federal workers for quote, toiling through the Trump
administration and the coronavirus pandemic. Look. I don't have a
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problem with the free market, but for those of you
that for people that choose to work in certain professions,
if you're going to work in government, it's not the
profession to go into. If you want to get wealthy
and have a different standard of living. Like I know
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so many people that the money had little to do
with the decision of what profession that they decide. I
know people from the time they were little that wanted
to be a law enforcement I know people from the
time they were little wanted to be pilot. I know
people from the time they were little wanted to be
doctors or nurses. I even know people that wanted to
(26:05):
be dentists. I don't want anybody would want to be
a dentist. And this is a hard job. Interesting story
from the Epic Times. I love this one. The cost
to fuel your electric vehicle is now higher than the
cost of fueling a gas powered car. I mean, can
you believe this. In the last quarter of last year
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twenty twenty two, typical midpriced internal combustion engine car drivers
paid about eleven dollars twenty nine cents to fuel their
vehicles for one hundred miles. The cost was around thirty
one cents cheaper than the amount paid by midpriced electric
vehicle drivers charging mostly at home, and over three dollars
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less than the cost born by comparable electric vehicle drivers
charging commercially. According to the Anderson Economic group. In their analysis,
luxury electric vehicles still enjoy a cost advantage against their
gas powered counterparts. It caused luxury ev owners twelve point
four what is it twelve point for dollars to drive
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every hundred miles on average if they charge their cars
mostly at home, or fifteen ninety five if they charge
at a commercial charging station. During the fourth quarter, now
the cost for fuel, you know, went up significantly, came down,
and now it's going back up to four dollars again
and again. That's unbelievable. You know, I read all of
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these the general consensus among economists, and it's the federal
meet this week as inflation is beginning to cool. I mean,
after the multiple rate hikes, you would expect that to happen. However,
we don't know. You know, they had talked about a
soft landing. I don't know anybody that's really predicting that.
Most people are predicting that it's going to be you know,
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a rough next eighteen months or so. A lot of people,
by the way, Linda questioning, you know, the price of
eggs are through the roof right now. Do you see
what happened in Connecticut? I'm gonna tell you that one
hundred thousand chickens died a chicken coop destroyed in a
blaze at an egg farm. Twenty firefighting crews from across
the region had to battle this blaze. According to fire officials,
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they said about one hundred thousand chickens may have died
in the blaze. A chicken coop measuring fifty feet by
four hundred feet went up in planes in flames at
Hillendale Farms on Saturday afternoon in Norwich, Connecticut, and they
responded very quickly to this. By the way, eighteen dollars
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a dozen. Some people are predicting for a dozen What
am I gonna do? That's all I eat or eggs
and meat for the most part, unless it's weekends and
I cheat watching football, which I did yesterday. Cheated, dramatic.
Did you see the story I just sent you? I
did not. By the way, do you see the story
about wind turbines now taller than the Statue of Liberty
are all falling over? I did not see that story. Yeah,
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it's a good story. Hang on, Mary Howe. Jury deadlocked
Mark Huck Mark Huck sorry, not guilty. All charges a
huge story. The pro lifer. It was at the abortion
clinic with his son, and then they stormed his house
with all the FBI agents, held all of his seven
children at gunpoint, and then they took him to trial
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to say that he was aggressive at the abortion clinic
just because he was speaking about pro life stuff. They
found him not guilty on all charges. This is where
Jim Jordan, It's going to be a field day. And
you can already see that the strategy of the DOJ
and the FBI is the stone wall and try and
get everything in court anyway. So the instances part of
a recent a rash of recent wind turbine malfunctions across
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the US and Europe, from failures of key components to
full on collapses. Industry veterans are saying they're happening more often,
even if the events are occurring at only a small
fraction of installed machines. But the problems have added hundreds
of millions of dollars in costs. But three of the
largest Western turbine makers, ge Vestas Wind Systems and Seamen's Energy.
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And by the way they could result in more expensive
insurance policies is setback. No, I'm telling you right now,
this is we unilaterally disarmed as it relates to energy
to buy into the climate alarmist cultism, and it's costing
us all of fortune, and we don't have the alternative
that the glis of al Gore and other lunatics are
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telling us we have. I did like the Bill Maher said, Yeah,
I fly around in a private jetim but I'm not
out there telling people to stop eating meat they are.
I'm like, good, finally for him, he's just being honest.
If you don't think the global warming is happening, if
you're not lecturing people about the cars they drive, the
meat that they eat, and telling them that they're bad
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people and wanting them to pay for a socialist agenda
in the name of green then you understand that the
United States that happens to be one of the cleanest,
that takes care of its air water better than any
country on the face of the earth. Considering the level
of industrial growth we've had, the planet has a fever.
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What year did he say that? Two thousand and six. Oh,
we're surviving the fever. Fever seems to be going down.
All right, We're gonna have a full discussion. Sergeant Trey
Penney will join us. Also Dallas Police Sergeant Sam Digby
will check in with us. Our friend gentle Calmo, was
on the ground in Memphis on Friday night. Had a
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lot of time to speak to a lot of people
about what happened in this case of Tyree Nichols and
the reaction of the community, and what can be done
to prevent this from ever happening again. Straight ahead, w
All right, thanks Scott Shannon, and thanks to all of
you toll free on numbers eight hundred and ninety four one. Sean,
if you want to be a part of the program.
By now, most of you have, not all of you,
I'm sure have seen the incident with the police, five
officers and Tyree Nichols, which ultimately resulted in his death.
(00:23):
I guess it is any surprise, and they really shouldn't
be a surprise here. Everybody knows they're good cops. I
would say the majority of them are my own personal
experience in life. I've had a couple of cops that,
you know, we're really obnoxiousness in a lot of ways, yes,
and no matter how polite you're even being, and they just,
(00:44):
I don't know, have a chip on this shoulder, baby,
they're having a bad day whatever it happens to be.
Guess the biggest surprisies to me is the number of
people that have decided that in spite of the fact
that all the officers in this case, all five of
them are black, and the and Tyree Nichols is black,
and and they're still trying to turn this into a
(01:07):
race case. You know, latest person to do this this morning,
apparently was New York City Mayor Eric Adams on fake
News CNN saying that race played a major role in
Nichols murder. I'm having a hard time understanding how they
got there because, you know, the police chief, who happens
(01:28):
to be African American herself, said, races off the table
in this case. Adam says. You know, when I asked,
do you agree that races off the table, No, I don't,
he says. I think race is still on the table.
When a culture of policing historically has treated those from
different groups differently, even when the individuals are from the
same group, that culture can still exist. I think this
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is simply it's not more complicated than what you see
this as. This is a case of you know, there
are good cops and there are not good cops. I'd
like to think the majority of people that I my
experience has been people are going to law enforcement. They
know they're taken on a very difficult job. They know
that they know that they can lose their life at
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any given minute. They all know that they take on
the risk to protect and to serve their communities. That's
what I've discovered in the course of my life. Are
there bad apples and every field, sure, including broadcasting. I
can name the names you'd recognize easily, but that's a
different story for a different day. So, you know, in
(02:34):
the wake of this, and I'm looking at so many
people in their comments, and I'm trying to understand how
they got to the positions that they got, you know,
by saying the things that they've been saying. And yet
it just goes on and on and on, and you know,
even to the point where you have the Biden administration.
(02:55):
They've now made a decision to open a civil rights
investigation into the Tyree Nichols murder. Jonathan Turley wrote a
great piece about that. He said the move of the
Justice Department opened a civil rights investigation as apprising. He
denounced the killing and went on to say that even
the Memphis Police chief told the public that the race
of the officers takes off the table that issue and
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brings into the forefront problems in law enforcement. You know
that they're about race, basically saying that that's not the case.
That was a general rule that such civil rights investigations
would follow state investigations and state charges. That rule was
discarded by the Obama administration in cases like the case
(03:40):
of Trayvon Martin, after the fanfare of the investigation, the
administration quietly shut it down and did not bring any charges. Remember,
you had eyewitness testimony that we didn't know till the
very end, although I knew it was coming because I
had my sources, which is why we always end up
being right on all of these cases. I had sourced
is in Ferguson, Missouri that were telling me, Sean, there
(04:03):
are multiple African Americans that corroborate the officer's story about
Michael Brown and that this hands up, don't shoot incident
never happened, and Michael Brown was the one that reached
into the police officer's car and struggled for his gun
when the shot first shot went off, and then Michael
Brown charged the police officer. All of that corroborated by
(04:25):
African Americans testifying in the case. Just like I was
tipped off that none of these officers in the Freddie
Great case in Baltimore were ever going to be found
guilty of anything, and everyone had predicted that they would
be guilty verdicts, and I said, they're not going to
be guilty verdicts. In this case, I'm not even sure.
What they haven't done yet is broken down and identified
(04:47):
each officer in their specific role in this incident with
Tyree Nichols. You know, certainly the officer that you know
ran up and kicked him in the head twice is
going to be one of those people that will rightly
be charged with second degree murder or the people that
are wailing on them and beating the hell out of them.
(05:08):
You know what's so frustrating to me is you got
five officers there that are supposed to be trained officers
of an elite unit which since has now been disbanded
over the weekend's supposed to be part of an elite unit.
And five guys couldn't cuff one one person, one young man,
And that tells me that their training is poor. You know,
(05:31):
it's if you know basic you know jiu jitsu manipulations.
I'm telling you, you you could take somebody's fingers and get
them to comply. You can get their risk to put
it in a kartagashi wrist lock, and they're going to comply.
And these are not hard maneuvers for police officers to
be trained in the use of. Well, you got five
(05:51):
on one. The other thing that really struck me is
where was that one officer to walk over when they
have full control of Tyree Nichols on the ground and
he wasn't fully complying by getting completely on his on
his waist, on his you know, late put his face down,
and he was obviously he was upset that he was
(06:13):
pulled over. Obviously he want an answers to questions. The
cops were just frustrated, seemingly from the get go, But
there wasn't one guy that walked over and said, all right, everybody,
take a deep breath. What's your name? Tyree? Okay, Tyree,
listen to me. You gotta take it easy here. Our
goal is not to hurt you. Our goal is to
get to the bottom of what has gone on here,
(06:34):
and we need your help and we need your cooperation.
I don't want you getting hurt. I don't want our
officers getting hurt. I have five guys here. You're not
going to get away. We're not going to hurt you.
We just want to question you. I'm asking for your cooperation.
You know, that tone a cadence probably could. It may
not have worked, It may not work every time, but
(06:55):
it's certainly gonna have an impact by a lot of people.
I think that would have an impact on tons of people, so,
you know, and then then this race to bring up
the racial issue. You know, they I'm having a hard
time understanding some of the comments with so many people
as it relates to, you know, the coverage in this
(07:18):
particular case. You know, I just it makes no sense
to me. I have a montage of some of the media,
let me play it for you blaming race for Tyree
Nichols's death. Listen, this is an outrage and race still
is involved, Joey, you and I spoke about on the phone,
because I don't believe those five cops would have done
that to a young white on a traffic stop. I'm
(07:41):
not surprised that the officers here were black, because when
we talk about race and policing, we talk about the
way black men, black women, black people are perceived in
the way they are perceived by all of us, and
so anti black racism, the idea of thinking of black
men and women as prone divide islands, as dangerous, as
bigger or stronger or more insiduous than they really are,
(08:05):
something that can affect all of our minds and Black
people are not immune from that as well. There's this
very simplistic notion that says, well, if a white cop
is doing something to an unarmed black person, then that's racism,
but we sometimes forget Unfortunately, African Americans can also be
guilty of hatred and bias and bigotry against other African Americans.
(08:28):
But I think a racist still on the table. When
a culture of policing historically has treated those from different
groups differently, even when the individuals are from that same group,
that culture can still exist, and we have to zero
in on it, being honest about it, and making sure
that we properly train police for the realities of the
(08:49):
cities that they are policing in. It shouldn't be a
surprise to people that individual black people can actually do
anti black things anyway. Who knows the history of enslavement,
Anyone who knows the history of policing knows that black
people can do anti black things, and communities of color
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they often have different types of policing than many of
our white brothers and sisters having their community and this
video illustrates it that it's this culture that says it
doesn't matter whether the police officers are black, Hispanic, or white,
that it is somehow allowed for you to tramp on
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the constitutional rights of certain citizens from certain ethnicities and
certain communities. This has nothing to this case had nothing
to do with race that I can see. The officers
were black, all of them. The case of Tyree Nichols,
he was black. I could see bad policing. I could
(09:54):
see poor training, I could see a lack of professionalism.
I mean it's like these cops personally, there was five
of them and they couldn't even get this this young
man in handcuffs. And you have to ask why, why
couldn't this have been handled better? This kid did not
need to be kicked in the head, beaten, silly, you know,
have frustrated cops, you know. And by the way, how
(10:17):
many times have I said that stupid taser's junk. I've
said it's so many times, and sure, click click click,
click click boom doesn't work. Van Jones writing on Fake
News CNN that the police that killed Tyree Nichols were black,
but they still might have been driven by racism. The
narrative that white cop kills unarmed black man should never
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have been the sole lens through which we attempted to
understand police abuse and misconduct. It's time to move to
a more nuanced discussion of the way police violence and
dangers black lives. Black people are not immune to anti
black messages, he said. One of the sad facts about
anti black racism is that black people ourselves are not
immune to its pernicious effects. Society's message that the black
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black people are inferior, unworthy, and dangerous is pervasive. Well,
are you saying that the black officers. There's so many,
by the way, police departments in the country where they
have majority minority police departments, and you know, MPR, you
have Ben Crump is on a spot on here. When
(11:26):
you look at this, it's never really about the demographics
or the ethnicity or the racial makeup of the and
the racial makeup of the officer. It's about demographics, the
ethnicity and racial makeup of the person who is being police.
That's that is wrong. Revernel Sharpton. Tyree Nichols death is
an outrage and race is still involved, you know, Ben Crump, ABC,
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It's not the race of the police officer that is
the determining factor of whether they're going to engage in
excessive force. But it is the race of the citizen.
And this this these common, well widespread. Jamiel Hill claiming
that black people can carry water for white supremacy, you're
stuck on faces, you know, making that statement. I just
(12:13):
see bad policing overall. I see five cops that are
supposed to be professionally trained incapable, five of them of
handcuffing one suspect, you know, for what seems like a
minor infraction, and when a guy's screaming for their mother
and he's that by the time they had the second encounter,
(12:36):
if they didn't realize that they were not going to
calm the suspect down. Things needed to be treated very,
very differently, instead of anger, instead of you know, spring
mace at the guy, instead of you know, man handling
the kid. This young man, they could have handled it
a thousand different ways and professionally, and if he still resisted,
(13:00):
as it would take force to get him in handcuffs.
But five officers that are in an elite unit ought
to be able to do that in their sleep for
crying out loud shouldn't be that difficult. Anyway. We'll have
a debate on it coming up later in the program today. Look,
I mean it went on Jamal Hill claiming black people
can carry water from white supremacy. You're stuck on faces
(13:22):
will be Goldberg. Do we need to see a white
person also get beat before anybody will do anything? So
many other people said it, Sarah Haynes, the fact that
it was black officers doesn't matter. It's the victim. You know,
how do you how do you make the leap here?
And would there have been a different reaction of people
(13:42):
there if the wall, if there were different races involved, probably,
I guess maybe, probably, because there are some people that
always want to push that narrative. Here is a reality.
There are good and bad people in every profession. Would
I take out of this more than anything else is
that you had five officers here and you had one
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suspect here, and what we're talking about, quote reckless driving.
I don't know what happened. I didn't see that portion
of the tape to sufficiently come to any conclusion. It
was early in the evening, no indication that he used
any drugs. But I did see this kid laying in
his hospital bed with his head kicked in. I did
(14:26):
see the officer, you know, run up and kick him
right in the head, not once, but twice. I did
see this kid getting beaten on the ground, and I
did hear the voices of officers that sounded about as
unprofessional as you'd ever expect. And there wasn't one of
them that said, all right, guys, let's slow down here,
all right, you know, sir, sir, we need your cooperation.
(14:49):
Listen to me. Nobody wants to get hurt here. We
have to do our job. We're going to ask you
for your cooperation. You know. It's not like he well
he did get up at one point, which, by the way,
she should not happened either. And then when the cops
are chasing Tyree, they weren't even close to being able
to keep up with them. And I know they have
heavy equipment on, but we're crying out loud. You gotta
(15:10):
your cop, you gotta stay in decent shape. Pretty unreal, um, so,
you know, And then why bring up civil rights charges
in this case? That's what Joe Biden is now done.
But I guess it could things could have gotten worse,
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Jonathan Turley's really had a good point today wrote an
article you know about clean Jean Pierre repeatedly assuring the
public Biden is committed in the classified document scandal to
move forward in a very transparent c way. They keep
putting forward the word transparent, but then they keep finding
stuff pretty much everywhere. And there's a lot of discussion about,
(18:08):
you know, his personal library in Wilmington, but nobody's talking
about and I'd even forgotten about until I read Turley's column,
that we have a huge library of Biden documents sitting
in the University of Delaware, and by the way, they've
(18:28):
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when he was vice president and then contemplated a run
for the presidency, and he has now locked those records
away by giving them to the university, which has claimed
now for over a decade that they're still working on
organizing and cataloging the documents. Really for over a decade,
(18:49):
it's taking you that long. Anyway, he's refused to allow
the public or the press to see any of the documents.
And with all these recent reports and requests by the
Justice Department that every former president vice president with top
secret information possibly in their hands, that we'd asked that
(19:10):
you kindly would look anyway. The university has been used
for years to shield potentially embarrassing documents from public review
for the Biden administration. Now, how does this sit with you,
as the most transparent administration in history. The answer to
the question is obvious, it does not. That's the bottom line.
(19:31):
By the way, Dick Morris is predicting that the class
of Eyed documents scandal involving Biden, and of course the
probes into the family syndicate of financial dealings, will doom
his election bid. He said, this is going to be
the absolute end for Biden. He said, I'm not so
sure if this is the end for Biden. I don't
(19:52):
think it's the documents. I think it's the money. I
think when America really wraps its mind and fully understands
the countries that Hunter was dealing with, the lies that
Joe told, Joe's involvement in all of this photographic meetings,
lying about never having spoken to his son or any
(20:14):
family member about his foreign business dealings evidence to the contrary,
and then following the money and seeing how the Bidens
have enriched themselves with some of our biggest you know,
geopolitical foes, you know, China's donation to you penn just
an enormous amount of money, and then you penned professors
(20:36):
lobby successfully Merrick Garland to stop an investigation into espionage.
And then the one point five billion dollars deal with
the Bank of China, then one hundred thousand dollars shopping spree,
then in no interest forgiveablet five million dollar alone. That's
just one country, never mind Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhs. Then we've
(20:56):
gone over this in great specificity, in great detail. Robert
Gates gave an interview about Biden's handling of the war
in Ukraine and said that he should have been doing
things differently, said that the things the administration is currently doing,
shipping tanks other critical military hardware, that should have been
done months ago. What have I said? Why? What has
(21:19):
now happened here? Now? It looks like a long drawn
out quagmire and an extended conflict, because we don't fight
wars to win wars anymore, you know, we fight for
a tie ostensibly, and then we get locked in in perpetuity.
And meanwhile, Western Europe has not been doing their fair
(21:42):
share of defending this in their own backyard, which tells
me that you know the responsibilities on them American TAC
we cannot afford to fight the war for Zolinsky. If
they wanted to fight it and give him the weaponry
to win it and win it fast, they should have
done that a long time ago. Oh, we're afraid Vladimir
(22:04):
has nuclear weapons. Well, if Vladimir's plan is to use
tactical nuclear weapons, then that's on him. The world will
rightfully respond. I hope and pray that day doesn't come,
but it's always been a possibility. We do have ex
Twitter employees that will be testifying before the House Intelligence Committee.
(22:27):
That ought to get interesting in the House Oversight Committee,
so we'll find out what's going on there. Anyway, we
have both Senator Warner and Senator Marco Rubio calling for
document for the document oversight in the National Security They
just want to know what's in this in other words,
with sources and methods compromised in any way. But I
(22:50):
will tell you this, with the help of the corrupt
media in this country, I will send The Washington Times
had a really good editorial about this. Their cover up
is in full swing. You know, when he vowed and
Jensaki said, will bring transparency and truth back to government.
No bigger lie has been told than that one, except
(23:10):
maybe when he said he never talked to Hunter or
any family member about his foreign business dealings. But now
they've turned out to be the lat least transparent administration
in modern history. You know, the Treasury Department responding. For example,
Congress is up and running and the Treasury Department is
we have Congressman Comerce Center request to provide information on
(23:34):
Biden family financial transactions that have been marked suspicious. Suspicious
activity reports is what they call any over a certain
amount of money, Like if you, for example, take out
more than ten thousand dollars, that report usually gets triggered,
which is fine. I mean, it's your money. You should
be able to do whatever you want with your own money.
(23:55):
But that's separate and apart. I think the money issue,
you know, did Hunter really give half a salary to Pops?
Did Hunter really pay for the repairs at pops home?
Did Hunter, you know, put aside X number of millions
of dollars for the big guy. Because if that's the
case and that happened, now you got a whole series
(24:18):
of violations. You got FARA violations, you got tax violations. Now,
you can't prosecute a sitting president, but if he's not elected,
he could be prosecuted, and certainly Hunter would be. It
took the Biden administration sixty eight days to disclose to
you the American people that they even had classified information.
(24:38):
They found it six days before the mid term elections.
And the Department of Justice in his executive branch, they
knew about it from the get go. What else do
we have here? Now? This is pretty interesting. How many
of you would like an eight point seven percent pay increase?
(25:01):
I bet a lot of you would like an eight
point seven percent pay increase, especially if you got a
four point six pay raise this year and you're a
federal government employee whecause that's what Democrats now are proposing
to give federal workers for quote, toiling through the Trump
administration and the coronavirus pandemic. Look. I don't have a
(25:22):
problem with the free market, but for those of you
that for people that choose to work in certain professions,
if you're going to work in government, it's not the
profession to go into. If you want to get wealthy
and have a different standard of living. Like I know
(25:44):
so many people that the money had little to do
with the decision of what profession that they decide. I
know people from the time they were little that wanted
to be a law enforcement I know people from the
time they were little wanted to be pilot. I know
people from the time they were little wanted to be
doctors or nurses. I even know people that wanted to
(26:05):
be dentists. I don't want anybody would want to be
a dentist. And this is a hard job. Interesting story
from the Epic Times. I love this one. The cost
to fuel your electric vehicle is now higher than the
cost of fueling a gas powered car. I mean, can
you believe this. In the last quarter of last year
(26:28):
twenty twenty two, typical midpriced internal combustion engine car drivers
paid about eleven dollars twenty nine cents to fuel their
vehicles for one hundred miles. The cost was around thirty
one cents cheaper than the amount paid by midpriced electric
vehicle drivers charging mostly at home, and over three dollars
(26:51):
less than the cost born by comparable electric vehicle drivers
charging commercially. According to the Anderson Economic group. In their analysis,
luxury electric vehicles still enjoy a cost advantage against their
gas powered counterparts. It caused luxury ev owners twelve point
four what is it twelve point for dollars to drive
(27:16):
every hundred miles on average if they charge their cars
mostly at home, or fifteen ninety five if they charge
at a commercial charging station. During the fourth quarter, now
the cost for fuel, you know, went up significantly, came down,
and now it's going back up to four dollars again
and again. That's unbelievable. You know, I read all of
(27:39):
these the general consensus among economists, and it's the federal
meet this week as inflation is beginning to cool. I mean,
after the multiple rate hikes, you would expect that to happen. However,
we don't know. You know, they had talked about a
soft landing. I don't know anybody that's really predicting that.
Most people are predicting that it's going to be you know,
(28:01):
a rough next eighteen months or so. A lot of people,
by the way, Linda questioning, you know, the price of
eggs are through the roof right now. Do you see
what happened in Connecticut? I'm gonna tell you that one
hundred thousand chickens died a chicken coop destroyed in a
blaze at an egg farm. Twenty firefighting crews from across
the region had to battle this blaze. According to fire officials,
(28:26):
they said about one hundred thousand chickens may have died
in the blaze. A chicken coop measuring fifty feet by
four hundred feet went up in planes in flames at
Hillendale Farms on Saturday afternoon in Norwich, Connecticut, and they
responded very quickly to this. By the way, eighteen dollars
(28:47):
a dozen. Some people are predicting for a dozen What
am I gonna do? That's all I eat or eggs
and meat for the most part, unless it's weekends and
I cheat watching football, which I did yesterday. Cheated, dramatic.
Did you see the story I just sent you? I
did not. By the way, do you see the story
about wind turbines now taller than the Statue of Liberty
are all falling over? I did not see that story. Yeah,
(29:12):
it's a good story. Hang on, Mary Howe. Jury deadlocked
Mark Huck Mark Huck sorry, not guilty. All charges a
huge story. The pro lifer. It was at the abortion
clinic with his son, and then they stormed his house
with all the FBI agents, held all of his seven
children at gunpoint, and then they took him to trial
(29:33):
to say that he was aggressive at the abortion clinic
just because he was speaking about pro life stuff. They
found him not guilty on all charges. This is where
Jim Jordan, It's going to be a field day. And
you can already see that the strategy of the DOJ
and the FBI is the stone wall and try and
get everything in court anyway. So the instances part of
a recent a rash of recent wind turbine malfunctions across
(29:56):
the US and Europe, from failures of key components to
full on collapses. Industry veterans are saying they're happening more often,
even if the events are occurring at only a small
fraction of installed machines. But the problems have added hundreds
of millions of dollars in costs. But three of the
largest Western turbine makers, ge Vestas Wind Systems and Seamen's Energy.
(30:20):
And by the way they could result in more expensive
insurance policies is setback. No, I'm telling you right now,
this is we unilaterally disarmed as it relates to energy
to buy into the climate alarmist cultism, and it's costing
us all of fortune, and we don't have the alternative
that the glis of al Gore and other lunatics are
(30:42):
telling us we have. I did like the Bill Maher said, Yeah,
I fly around in a private jetim but I'm not
out there telling people to stop eating meat they are.
I'm like, good, finally for him, he's just being honest.
If you don't think the global warming is happening, if
you're not lecturing people about the cars they drive, the
meat that they eat, and telling them that they're bad
(31:05):
people and wanting them to pay for a socialist agenda
in the name of green then you understand that the
United States that happens to be one of the cleanest,
that takes care of its air water better than any
country on the face of the earth. Considering the level
of industrial growth we've had, the planet has a fever.
(31:26):
What year did he say that? Two thousand and six. Oh,
we're surviving the fever. Fever seems to be going down.
All right, We're gonna have a full discussion. Sergeant Trey
Penney will join us. Also Dallas Police Sergeant Sam Digby
will check in with us. Our friend gentle Calmo, was
on the ground in Memphis on Friday night. Had a
(31:47):
lot of time to speak to a lot of people
about what happened in this case of Tyree Nichols and
the reaction of the community, and what can be done
to prevent this from ever happening again. Straight ahead, w
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.