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Government Shutdown Analysis
- The recent end of the longest government shutdown in U.S. history (43 days).
- Democrats, particularly Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, caused harm to Americans for political gain.
- The economic impacts: delayed flights, unpaid federal workers, halted food stamp benefits, and harm to small businesses.
- Predicts future political consequences and possible repeat shutdown scenarios.
- Includes quotes from President Trump during the signing of legislation reopening the government.
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Healthcare Debate
- Focuses on the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), labeling it as financially disastrous and unaffordable.
- Advocates for reforms such as health savings accounts and reducing subsidies to insurance companies.
- Suggests reconciliation as a legislative strategy to bypass Democratic opposition.
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Persecution of Christians in Nigeria
- Highlights severe violence against Christians by Boko Haram and other radical Islamic groups.
- States that over 50,000 Christians have been killed since 2009 and thousands of churches destroyed.
- Discusses U.S. legislative efforts to designate Nigeria as a “Country of Particular Concern” and impose sanctions on complicit officials.
- Criticizes Tucker Carlson for allegedly downplaying the persecution issue.
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Domestic Extremism & Campus Violence
- Violent protests by Antifa at a Turning Point USA event at UC Berkeley.
- Mentions previous assassination of Charlie Kirk and ongoing threats against conservative speakers.
- Raises concerns about university administrators allegedly enabling violence.
- Discusses DOJ investigations into funding sources for radical groups and legislation to target financial backers of riots.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome in his verdict with Center Ted Cruz.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
So nice to have you with us, many of you
listening on the radio across the country. And it was well,
one interesting week. I guess that's the best way you
can put it. The sausage truly being made for all
the American people to see. With the longest government shut
down in history finally over, Senator, your reaction to that.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Well, hallelujah, hallelujah. After forty three days of the government
being shut down, forty three days of the Schumer shutdown
where federal employees didn't get their paychecks and yet thousands
went into work, forty three days of parks being closed,
museums being closed, government services being highly limited, Forty three
(00:45):
days of delays in the airports, of air traffic controllers
not being paid, TSA agents not being paid, flights being canceled,
all because the Democrats were throwing a gigantic temper tantrum
because Chuck sh Humor has a political crisis, and this
shut down. The Democrats got nothing. But the purpose was
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not to actually get a concession. The purpose was simply
to inflict a whole lot of pain on the American
people to demonstrate that man O man Schumer and the
Democrats hate Donald Trump, and they hate Donald Trump so
much they're willing to hurt their own constituents. President Trump
Wednesday evening signed the legislation. We passed it out of
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the Senate Monday night. The House came back on Wednesday,
they voted on Wednesday, they passed the legislation that we
had passed, and President Trump signed it into law. Listen
to him as he's signing the legislation reopening the government
Wednesday night.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
But with all of that, I just want to tell
you the country has never been in better shape. We
went through this short term disaster with the Democrats because
they thought it would be good politically, and it's an
honor now to sign incredible bill and get our country
working again.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Thank you, Sarah.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
You can hear Republicans they are cheering in the Oval Office.
It's not every day you actually hear real cheering like
that in the Oval Office. It it's a little more
formal usually. Obviously, Republicans surrounding the present they were happy
this is finally older over and the American people aren't
being held hostage anymore.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah. Look, the Democrats, they inflicted pain on millions of Americans.
They also wasted billions of dollars of taxpayer money. Just
the thousands upon thousands of government workers who stayed home
for forty three days. They didn't go to work. They're
all going to get paid back pay now, So forty
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three days. Now, for forty three days, they had the
challenge of not having a paycheck, not knowing how they'd
pay their mortgage, not knowing how they'd pay their rent.
But now they'll get paid for all those forty three days.
But you know what, the American people didn't get. They
didn't get any work from all the workers who stayed
home for over a month because Chuck Schumer and the
Democrats wanted to throw a tantrum. President Trump at the
(03:33):
signing ceremony, he described some of the real harms that
the Schumer shut down caused.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Here, give a listen the past seven weeks the Democrats
shut down as inflicted massive harm. They caused twenty thousand
flights to be canceled or delayed. They departed so many times,
so late, people were hurt so badly. Nobody's ever seen
anything like this one. This was a no brainer, This
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was an easy extension. But they didn't want to do
it the easy way. They had to do it the
hard way. They looked very bad the Democrats do. They
deprived more than one million government workers from their paychecks
and cut off food stamp benefits of millions and millions
more Americans in need. They caused tens of thousands of
federal contractors and small businesses to go unpaid. And the
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total effect of the damage their antics cause will take
weeks and probably months to really calculate accurately, including the
serious harm that they did to our economy and to
people and the families. So I just want to tell
the American people you should not forget this when we
come up to midterms and other things. Don't forget what
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they've done to our country. You also want to call
for a termination to the filibuster so that this can
never happen again.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
You know, Sara, this really was about inflicting pain.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I was on CNN the night to shut Down ended
as the present was talking this live, and it was
amazing to see the disconnect from so many of the
liberals on the show, and I'm like, what did you
guys get out of this? This was the same deal
that was on the table before the shutdown, So you
just wanted to try to score political points. You hate
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Donald Trump so much that you just wanted to shut
on the government and see if you could bring his
approval writing down. You didn't give a damn about the
kids and their food because if you did, you would
have at least made sure that those on foodstamps would
have gotten those benefits. You didn't care about those waiting
on flights and having cancel flights and their lives being changed,
many of them going to things that are hard, like funerals,
are sick family members, Not everything's a vacation when you're
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at the airport. You took countless hours out of our economy,
small businesses that were hurt. There's a long list of
people that were hurt during this. And this was all
just for one reason. They hated Donald Trump and they
didn't care who got hurt in the process.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah. Look, the shutdown had real negative effects on the economy,
on the GDP, it had real negative effects on small businesses,
It had real negative effects on millions of ordinary Americans,
and all of that was inflicted to score political points
for the Democrats with a handful of really the crazies,
(06:14):
you know what's amazing. After forty three days, after the
longest government shut down in history, virtually every Democrat still
voted against reopening the government. So in the Senate the
vote was sixty to forty. Only eight Democrats voted to
reopen the government. Thirty nine Democrats voted to keep the
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government closed. Chuck Schumer voted to keep the government closed.
Every potential presidential candidate on the Democrat side voted to
keep the government closed. So Cory Booker voted to keep
it closed. Abi Klobuchar voted to keep it closed. Kirsten
Jelibrand voted to keep it closed. Chris Murphy voted to
keep it closed. Bernie Sanders voted to keep it closed.
All of those are possible and even likely Democrat presidential candidates,
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and they all voted to keep it closed. In the House,
the same thing was true, so the vote the vote
in the House. So the vote in the House was
two hundred and twenty two to two oh nine, but
of the two hundred and twenty two, only six were Democrats.
(07:24):
The six Democrats who voted to reopen the government in
the House were Adam Gray of California, Jared Golden of Maine,
Tom Susey of New York, Marie Glusen camp Perez of
Washington State, Don Davis of North Carolina, and Henry Quayar
of Texas. Other than that, every single Democrat in the
House voted keep the government shut, keep food stamps off,
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keep pay stop, keep stop, don't pay air traffic controllers,
keep the delays, keep the cancelations. By the way, just
on flights, the FA said it was it was going
to reduce flights ten percent, but if the shutdown had continued,
the FA had already said it would phase into twenty
percent or more. And virtually every Democrat in boast chambers
(08:11):
said that sounds good by me. Let's keep this going.
Let's keep the shutdown, I suppose through Thanksgiving, through the
busiest travel time of the year. It is amazing. The
question you have to ask is who are the Democrats
listening to and who are they working for? Yep, because
I think it's obvious on the face of it, they're
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not listening to the American people or working for the
American people. Instead, they're listening to their radical base, and
they're working for their radical base and frankly, their own
political self interest.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Sanata I want to get back into the shutdown aspect
of this for just a moment. There is one I
do think silver lining that's come out of this, and
that is one I think we now really know who
the Democratic Party is. Chuck Schumer is going to be
out of a job. He's not running for reelection. The
Democratic Party has gone full socialists or Marxist or communists,
depending on who you talk to. But it's very clear
(09:08):
there's an excommunication happening of the old establishment Democratic radicals,
that is Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. So that's one
thing that I do think has comeing out of the
show down. The other part of this is there's a
lot of talk right now about Obamacare and the financial disaster.
That it is the Affordable Care Act, it's not affordable,
and that's a grand debate that's now happening in this country.
(09:30):
Kevin O'Leary, mister wonderful, you know him from Shark Tank,
we talked about this and he said this may be
the biggest thing Democrats didn't plan for, is that now
the spotlight is on Obamacare, the subseason, how unaffordable it is,
even though they said it was supposed to be a
great thing.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, I will say that there are a couple things.
You're right that Nancy Pelosi next year will be here
last year in Congress. I think Chuck Schumer. My prediction
is Chuck Schumer doesn't even run for reelection. I think
he is not electable in a Democrat primary in the
state of New York, although, although he's tenacious, he may
(10:06):
well try. But it wouldn't surprise me at all to
see Schumer announce his retirement at the end of his term.
But look, one of the infuriating things of realizing that
virtually every Democrat, even after forty three days, voted to
keep the government shut down. We're going to replay this
whole thing like Groundhog Day on January thirtieth, because the
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continuing Resolution that President Trump just signed expires January thirtieth.
So we'll get through Thanksgiving, we'll get through Christmas, we'll
come back January. And I think there's a very real
possibility that Democrats try this again, maybe not maybe the
same eight who ultimately said okay, reopen the government. Maybe
they'll say we don't want to do this again, and
(10:47):
maybe they'll start right at the beginning by agreeing to
fund the government. We'll see where things are. And I
think the answer to that depends on what you just raised, Ben,
what happens with Obamacare and healthcare. And listen, they claimed
every day of this forty three day shutdown that they
had to have major concessions on Obamacare to save that
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that failing government health program. Well they didn't get those
major concessions. They got nothing whatsoever. The government's now open.
But but listen to what President Trump said when he
signed the legislation opening the government, because he talked about
Obamacare and what's going to happen next, Give a listen.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
So I'm always willing to work with anyone, including the
other party. We'll work on something having to do with healthcare.
We can do a lot better, we can do great.
So much money is involved, and we're willing to pay
so much money to the people. So we're going to
pay a lot of money to the people. They're going
to go out and buy their own healthcare, and we're
going to forget this Obamacare madness.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
You hear him talking about madness. He's not wrong.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Even liberals are saying, well, we know that premiums have
gone up two hundred three hundred percent with Obamacare. So
that's why we need the subseus. That is the definition
center of a disaster. It is it is insolvent.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Look, that was the predictable result of Obamacare. That's what
I and the other critics of Obamacare said, what happened.
It's exactly what's happened. Even the Washington Post admits the
so called Affordable Care Act is not affordable. And that
was the Democrats solution to that is give fifty billion
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dollars in subsidies from the taxpayer straight to giant health
insurance corporations. It's just corporate welfare. And mind you, these
health insurance corporations, their stock prices have increased, in some
instances more than one thousand percent since Obamacare was signed
into law. The executives that are running these companies are
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making tens of millions of dollars in salary. Their stock
has increased, presumably if they had stock that whole time.
Their stock has increased in hundreds of percents, if not
more than one thousand percent. And the Demo, I mean,
they're craven. By the way, virtually all of the political
contributions from the health insurance companies go to Democrats. So
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the Democrats are delivering fifty billion dollars of cash to
their political donors. And what President Trump said said there
is really important, and we talked about this on Wednesday's podcast.
During the shutdown, I hosted a dozen senators for dinner
Friday night, and we got the President on the phone
and we asked the President if he would engage and
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help make the argument that their demands for fifty billion
dollars for health insurance companies were unreasonable and a bad idea.
And he sent out a series of tweets which which
I helped him write, that said, We're not going to
give this money for the Obamacare scam to health insurance companies. Instead,
the money ought to flow to individuals, to real people
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in health savings accounts that you control, that you own,
that you're the one making the choice of how to
spend money on your healthcare. That is a fundamental reform
and healthcare that will lower prices, lower costs, that actually
will help keep things affordable. And I think we have
an opportunity to really increase competition, increase consumer choice, and
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put consumers in a significantly better situation. Now, there are
two ways that could happen one. We could see eight, nine,
ten reasonable Democrats willing to work with Republicans on something
that does that, and we could have legislation that gets
sixty votes, because to do that through ordinary, ordinary procedures
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takes sixty votes, just like it takes sixty votes to
fund the government. I think that's unlikely, although I'm sure
in the next month there will be some Republicans who try.
If the Democrats are not willing to do that. The
other avenue we have to address this problem is reconciliation,
and we can take up another budget reconciliation that only
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takes fifty votes. And it may well be that we
have to do a budget reconciliation, which is how we
pass the one big beautiful bill this summer to fix
Obamacare and effectively to repeal the mess that is Obamacare
and instead expand consumer choice and and enhance affordability, and
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and give people access to health savings accounts where the
money that would have gone to enrich the health insurance
companies instead is going to you the patient, you the consumer.
And if we can do that on reconciliation, that that
would be a major victory for our constituents. It's actually
why I think the Democrats are not going to have
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any interested in doing it. They're much more interested in
taking care of their fat cat political donors than they
are actually in making healthcare affordable for real people are struggling. Remember,
these are the same people that were happy to see
food steps shut down because it was more important to
them to make a political point to their activists than
to help people who were in need of food to
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actually get the food they needed. And so I think
when it comes to healthcare, my prediction is we'll have
to do it on reconciliation because I think the Democrats
will not be willing to do anything reasonable. But we'll
see in the next couple of months.
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Verdict Cenator. One of the reasons why you do this
show and why I love co hosting it with you,
is we get to talk about issues that are not
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getting the attention they deserve. One of those right now
is the persecution of Christians and Nigeria. It is shocking
what is happening there. And I just came back from Israel.
We haven't got to talk about that as much as
we thought because the government shut down, and we're gonna
get to that. But one of the things that you
see when you see that people are under attacked because
their faith and I witnessed it going into the kibbutz
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into the homes of those that were killed, including that
nine month old child. When I met with the parents
who lost their loved ones on that soccer fill as
their kids were just playing soccer. When I went to
the North and I saw the homes that were destroyed
and met with people whose lives are destroyed by Hamas
there and you witness this type of persecution and death
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and destruction, and went to the site where the music
festival was and watch people die just because.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
They were Jews.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
It makes me angry to now see what's happening in Nigeria.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
You're shining a lot on that.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
The White House is doing that as well, and the
American people need to know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah, listen, Radical Islamic terrorists, they hate Christians and they
hate Jews, and they have murdered vast numbers of Christians,
They have murdered vast number of Jews. They continue to
do so, and they also murder a significant number of Muslims.
Radical Islamic terrorists if you don't embrace their radical jihadist view,
their ideology justifies violence or even murder to force you
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to submit. And the thirteen years I've been in the Senate,
I've spent a lot of time fighting for persecuted Christians,
fighting for persecuted Christians all across the globe, especially those
being persecuted by radical Islamic terrorists. Boko Haram, that is
in Nigeria, is a vicious radical Islamic terrorist group. And
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if you look at there is no country on planet
Earth where more Christians have been murdered in the last
twenty years than Nigeria. Since two thousand and nine, more
than fifty thousand Christians have been murdered in the country
of Nigeria.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I mean literally, these Christians are being hunted down.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, they absolutely are. Over twenty thousand Christian churches and
schools have been burned to the ground or otherwise destroyed.
I mean, this has been mass murder and it is horrific.
And so I filed legislation in the Senate to direct
the administration to designate Nigeria Country of Particular Concern and
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to impose in particular sanctions on the government officials, because
there are many government officials who are acquiescing in this
mass murder against Christians, and and and so my legislation
would would impose sanctions on particular government officials that there
are twelve states in the North where Sharia laws or
blasphemy laws are enforced. There's also federal Sharia and blasphemy
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laws that are enforced, and the government officials use those
laws to discriminate against and to persecute Christians. In some instances,
they simply just turn a blind eye, as as Bokoharram
and other radical Islamic terrorists murder Christians. In other instances,
they actually used the law to facilitate the persecution. But
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after I filed the legislation, and and and I began
pressing the administration to designate Nigeria as a country a
particular concern, President Trump did so, and he sent out
a tweet. Here's what his tweet says. It says Christianity
is facing an existential threat in Nigeria. Thousands of Christians
are being killed. Radical Islamists are responsible for this mass slaughter.
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I am hereby making Nigeria a country of particular concern,
but that is the least of it. When Christians or
any such group is slaughtered like is happening in Nigeria.
Thirty one hundred versus four four hundred and seventy six worldwide.
Something must be done. I am asking Congressman Riley Moore,
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together with Chairman Tom Cole and the House Appropriations Committee,
to immediately look into this matter and report back to me.
The United States cannot stand by while such atrocities are
happening in Nigeria and numerous other countries. We stand ready,
willing and able to save our great Christian population around
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the world. Donald J. Trump, President of the United States,
that was exactly the right thing to do. I saw
President Trump shortly after he issued that designation and I
thanked him. I said, it really makes a difference. It's
the right thing to do. He was happy to do it.
And I'll tell you the government in Nigeria is deeply
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and their response, their main defense they say, well, they
argue it's not a genocide. And what they say is, well, yes,
fifty thousand Christians have been killed, but you know what,
Bukah Haram has also killed Muslims, so it's all fine. Well,
it is true they have killed Muslims. Nobody's disputing that
they've killed Muslims as well. But radical Islamic terrorists target
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Christians in particular for persecution, and the government is complicit
in that persecution. That's what this is designed to address.
And and you know, I got to say, you and
I have talked about before that those who hate Jews
hate Christians, and those who hate Israel hate America. That
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that is true. We've also talked about rising anti Semitism,
and we've talked quite a bit about Tucker Carlson because
I think Tucker has unfortunately gone down a very very
dark path, a path where he brings on Hitler, praising
nutjobs on to do show over and over and over again.
But it also results. Not only does he attack Israel
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at almost every show he does, but when you go
on the path of hating Israel and blame everything on
the Jews, that often that same dark path leads you
to embrace the enemies of America. So Tucker has said
we should apologize to the family of Osama bin Laden. No, no,
we should not. Tucker has said he doesn't know that
(24:30):
Hamas is a terrorist organization. They might just be a
political group. I'm sorry, but when you murder twelve hundred
innocent civilians and rape women and children, you are most
definitely a terrorist group. And Hamas has killed a great
many Americans. But it really was striking. Just recently, Tucker
did a show where he talked about Nigerians and he
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disputed that Christians in Nigeria are being persecuted. I want
you to give a listen because he took the chance
to basically defend Book Haram. Give a listen.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
But he's all of a sudden, kind of out of nowhere,
deeply concerned about the play of Christians in Nigeria, which
I want to restate maybe a tolly bel concerning them.
But that's weird. What is that all of a sudden
everybody's concern about people who clearly have no track record
being interested in Chritians at all, including ce Cruz. What
is going on?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
That to me was pretty unhinged.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Senator, Look, I gotta say, listen. I understand that Tucker's
told the world there's no one he hates more than
Christian Zionists, and he singled out me and Mike Huckabee
as the people he hates the most in the world.
But that's truly a bizarre claim. What he says there,
which is that I have no interest in defending persecuted Christians.
(25:40):
I've literally spent thirteen years doing that. You know, I
might ask Tucker that does he have any idea who
Miriam Ibrahim is? And I suspect he doesn't. So Mariam
Ibrahim was a Christian woman in Soudan and she was
imprisoned and she was sentenced to receive one hundred lashes
and then to by the neck until dead for the
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crime of being a Christian. And this was during Barack
Obama's presidency. This was early in my time in the Senate.
And I spoke out vocally for Miriam Ibrahim. And she
had two little kids. She had a son named Martin,
and she actually gave birth to a daughter, Maya while
she was in leg irons. And I'll tell you, I repeatedly,
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practically begged the Obama administration for President Obama to just
say her name. He would not do it. He never
once said her name. I went to the Senate floor,
I gave floor speeches. I shined a light, and globally
many the Pope got involved shining a light defending her,
and the pressure became so great Soudan released her. And Ben,
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I'll tell you it's an amazing thing. I actually got
to meet Mariam Ibrahim when she came to Washington, and
I asked her. She was a little bitty woman. She's
not very very tall, maybe five to one. She couldn't
have weighed more than one hundred pounds. And I asked her,
I said, Mariam, tell me, when when you were in
that prison cell and your babies are in front of you,
and you've been sentenced to die for your faith, how
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did you not give up hope? And she looked at
me with a peace that I'll never forget, and she
just said Jesus was with me. And I mean, it
was powerful, incredible. But I think this illustrates how anti
Semitism is a poison that ends up poisoning every other view.
(27:29):
So now Tucker is running around defending Hamas, defending Book
of Haram, saying, well, I don't know that Nigerians or
Christians are being killed in Nigeria, and why does anyone
care about that? And apparently Tucker is only interested in
atrocities if he can blame them on Israel, And since
it's not Israel that's killing Christians in Nigeria, it's not
a concern for him. Look, I think we should defend
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Christians when they're being persecuted. I think we should defend
Jews when they're being persecuted. I think we should stand
up and and and and make a difference. Now that
doesn't mean that we invade every country in which there's injustice,
but it does mean we use our voice as a
voice to stand up for those. And Look, as you know,
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my dad was imprisoned and tortured in Cuba, and so
I have a particular heart for for people who are
unjustly detained uh and and and have spent a long
time highlighting and and doing everything we can to get
people out of unjust attentions, whether in in Sudan or China,
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or or or uh Lebanon or anywhere. And and and
I'm very glad President Trump is standing up for the
Christians in Nigeria.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I want to take a moment and just talk to
you real quick about an incredible opportunity for you to
continue to expand your mind and learn, no matter what
your age is. Senator Cruz and I were at the
memorial service for Charlie Kurr and one of the people
that spoke was the president of Hillsdale College, and he
talked about meeting with Charlie early on and how he said,
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you're going to have to work hard. You're going to
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All right, I want to end the show with talking
about something else that is really made me sad this week.
It's also I think, really telling you where we are
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as a country with the radical left. We have seen
violent protesters at a Turning Point US USA event at
UC Berkeley. I wish it wasn't what we witnessed, but
it was radical leftists. I want to know who's funding them, Senator,
I want to know who's behind this, but it is
it is shocking to see this level of rhetoric and
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attacks on conservatives who are just going to have a conversation.
And it's very eerily close to what we witnessed with
the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Look, the pattern of left wing violence continues, and it
continues across the country, and it continues with the acquiescence
and support of of many on the far left, far
too many on the far left.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
This week, Turning Point USA had a rally at u
C Berkeley. Now, the speakers at the rally were doctor
Frank Turik, who's a Christian pastor, and Rob Schneider, who's
a comedian and actor. So it's it's not like either
of these speakers were particularly controversial in any normal or
sane place. But but UC Berkeley is not necessarily a
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normal or sane place, and and Antifa targeted them, targeted
the people coming into the rally coming in to see
to to see listen to the speakers, and they were violent. Uh,
let me read how how how Fox covered it. A
bloody fight broke out near the University of California Berkeley
on Monday afternoon ahead of a Turning Point USA event
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on campus. The event, which featured doctor Frank Turk and
Rob Schneider mark the end of this is Turning Point Tour.
It took place just two months after Turning Point USA's
founder Charlie Kirk was assassinated at a campus event in
Utah on September tenth. The confrontation erupted around four thirty
pm Pacific Standard time. During the brawl, two men were
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seen fighting each other, one of whom had blood gushing
from his face, and you can watch the video. Video
taken by Fox News Digital also shows a crowd of
agitators gathered around the fight. These were left wing antifa activists.
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They were chanting obscene chants that they were celebrating that
Charlie Kirk had been murdered. They were chanting how happy
they are about that. Most of them had masks. And
you can watch the video online of one of the
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people coming to the Turning Point event who they beat
the hell out of him and his face is bleeding
profusely and they engaged in violence. And I'll tell you
what is frustrating is where was the administration of Berkeley
where was the police? Why are they allowing violent protesters?
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And look, these are the same administrators. This is the
same faculty that allowed their campuses to be taken over
for weeks and months on end by radical anti Semitic protesters,
by antifa communists who again engage in threats of violence.
And in both instances, these are not organic. They're being
paid for. There is I've been saying for a long time,
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follow the money. I've been urging the Department of Justice
and the FBI to follow the money. I've introduced legislation,
the Stop Thunders Act to add rioting as a predicate act. Tariko,
to let us go after the money that is behind
these violent anarchists. And I'll tell you what's being reported now.
This is another story. Fox News covered UC Berkeley's bloody
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protest of Turning Point USA, allegedly funded by far left nonprofit.
Attorney General Pambondy opens anti terrorism investigation into campus clash
outside Turning Point USA event. And here's what Fox reports.
Last month, a band of demonstrators marched across West Temple
Street in downtown Los Angeles in the national anti Trump
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No King's protest, carrying a banner that read defeat Trump's
fascist takeover, stop ice raids and deportations by any means necessary.
And in one corner, four bold letters stood out B
A M N, an acronym for by any means necessary.
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The rest of the banner spelled out clues to the
group's full name and smaller print quote Coalition to defend
Affirmative Action in agration and immigration rights and fight for
equality by any means necessary. That organization one of two
hundred and sixty six groups with combined annual revenues of
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two point nine billion dollars two point nine billion dollars
identified by Fox News Digital leading the No King's protests,
would soon reappear at this week's flashpoint on the campus
of University of California, Berkeley, And so this group. A
flyer circulated before the demonstration urged participants to quote end
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fascist turning Points youth oriented campaign of incitement to violence.
Now ironically they're accusing Turning Point of incitement to violence,
and they show up and violently assault the people who
are going to Turning Point. This is its classic Marxist
technique of projecting and accusing your opponents of doing what
you're doing. And this flier announced a rally outside at
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Zellerbach Hall an hour before the door's open for the event. Well,
the good news is and a QR page printed on
the flyer leads to a page on BAMN dot com,
which is a domain of this group that was helping
fund the No Kings rallies. And so there is an
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entire ecosystem with money flowing to promote violence. And thankfully
the Department of Justice under Pambondi has announced that they're
doing an anti terrorism investigation to go after to follow
the money. And I'll tell you also, the Assistant Attorney
General for Civil Rights is questioning, is questioning why Berkeley
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allowed this to happen. In fact, Assistant Attorney General for
Civil Rights Arment Dylan formally demanded that you see Berkeley
preserve all records regarding their response to the mob violence
at at Berkeley's Turning Point USA event. All records good.
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And that's because I suspect they're going to find They're
going to find emails, They're going to find administrators saying
communicating back and forth, just like we did with the
anti Semitic protesters, where it is clear that the administrators
do not want to protect the people at Turning Point
USA do not want the police to stop violence if
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it's directed against conservatives. And there's a real moral decay
at our universities. And I'm glad we have an Apartment
of Justice that's willing to enforce the law and go
after number one, the money behind the left wing violence,
but number two the administrators who are facilitating And I
got to say, it is not dissimilar to what's happening
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in Nigeria we talked about a minute ago, where you
have government officials who look the other way and refuse
to enforce the law to protect crists. In Berkeley's case,
I suspect the evidence will indicate the school administrators look
the other way and refuse to protect the students at
Turning Point USA because they're rooting for the Antifa rioters
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who are physically assaulting those students.
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Welcome in his verdict with Center Ted Cruz.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
So nice to have you with us, many of you
listening on the radio across the country. And it was well,
one interesting week. I guess that's the best way you
can put it. The sausage truly being made for all
the American people to see. With the longest government shut
down in history finally over, Senator, your reaction to that.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Well, hallelujah, hallelujah. After forty three days of the government
being shut down, forty three days of the Schumer shutdown
where federal employees didn't get their paychecks and yet thousands
went into work, forty three days of parks being closed,
museums being closed, government services being highly limited, Forty three
(00:45):
days of delays in the airports, of air traffic controllers
not being paid, TSA agents not being paid, flights being canceled,
all because the Democrats were throwing a gigantic temper tantrum
because Chuck sh Humor has a political crisis, and this
shut down. The Democrats got nothing. But the purpose was
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not to actually get a concession. The purpose was simply
to inflict a whole lot of pain on the American
people to demonstrate that man O man Schumer and the
Democrats hate Donald Trump, and they hate Donald Trump so
much they're willing to hurt their own constituents. President Trump
Wednesday evening signed the legislation. We passed it out of
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the Senate Monday night. The House came back on Wednesday,
they voted on Wednesday, they passed the legislation that we
had passed, and President Trump signed it into law. Listen
to him as he's signing the legislation reopening the government
Wednesday night.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
But with all of that, I just want to tell
you the country has never been in better shape. We
went through this short term disaster with the Democrats because
they thought it would be good politically, and it's an
honor now to sign incredible bill and get our country
working again.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Thank you, Sarah.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
You can hear Republicans they are cheering in the Oval Office.
It's not every day you actually hear real cheering like
that in the Oval Office. It it's a little more
formal usually. Obviously, Republicans surrounding the present they were happy
this is finally older over and the American people aren't
being held hostage anymore.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah. Look, the Democrats, they inflicted pain on millions of Americans.
They also wasted billions of dollars of taxpayer money. Just
the thousands upon thousands of government workers who stayed home
for forty three days. They didn't go to work. They're
all going to get paid back pay now, So forty
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three days. Now, for forty three days, they had the
challenge of not having a paycheck, not knowing how they'd
pay their mortgage, not knowing how they'd pay their rent.
But now they'll get paid for all those forty three days.
But you know what, the American people didn't get. They
didn't get any work from all the workers who stayed
home for over a month because Chuck Schumer and the
Democrats wanted to throw a tantrum. President Trump at the
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signing ceremony, he described some of the real harms that
the Schumer shut down caused.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Here, give a listen the past seven weeks the Democrats
shut down as inflicted massive harm. They caused twenty thousand
flights to be canceled or delayed. They departed so many times,
so late, people were hurt so badly. Nobody's ever seen
anything like this one. This was a no brainer, This
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was an easy extension. But they didn't want to do
it the easy way. They had to do it the
hard way. They looked very bad the Democrats do. They
deprived more than one million government workers from their paychecks
and cut off food stamp benefits of millions and millions
more Americans in need. They caused tens of thousands of
federal contractors and small businesses to go unpaid. And the
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total effect of the damage their antics cause will take
weeks and probably months to really calculate accurately, including the
serious harm that they did to our economy and to
people and the families. So I just want to tell
the American people you should not forget this when we
come up to midterms and other things. Don't forget what
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they've done to our country. You also want to call
for a termination to the filibuster so that this can
never happen again.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
You know, Sara, this really was about inflicting pain.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I was on CNN the night to shut Down ended
as the present was talking this live, and it was
amazing to see the disconnect from so many of the
liberals on the show, and I'm like, what did you
guys get out of this? This was the same deal
that was on the table before the shutdown, So you
just wanted to try to score political points. You hate
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Donald Trump so much that you just wanted to shut
on the government and see if you could bring his
approval writing down. You didn't give a damn about the
kids and their food because if you did, you would
have at least made sure that those on foodstamps would
have gotten those benefits. You didn't care about those waiting
on flights and having cancel flights and their lives being changed,
many of them going to things that are hard, like funerals,
are sick family members, Not everything's a vacation when you're
(05:38):
at the airport. You took countless hours out of our economy,
small businesses that were hurt. There's a long list of
people that were hurt during this. And this was all
just for one reason. They hated Donald Trump and they
didn't care who got hurt in the process.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah. Look, the shutdown had real negative effects on the economy,
on the GDP, it had real negative effects on small businesses,
It had real negative effects on millions of ordinary Americans,
and all of that was inflicted to score political points
for the Democrats with a handful of really the crazies,
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you know what's amazing. After forty three days, after the
longest government shut down in history, virtually every Democrat still
voted against reopening the government. So in the Senate the
vote was sixty to forty. Only eight Democrats voted to
reopen the government. Thirty nine Democrats voted to keep the
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government closed. Chuck Schumer voted to keep the government closed.
Every potential presidential candidate on the Democrat side voted to
keep the government closed. So Cory Booker voted to keep
it closed. Abi Klobuchar voted to keep it closed. Kirsten
Jelibrand voted to keep it closed. Chris Murphy voted to
keep it closed. Bernie Sanders voted to keep it closed.
All of those are possible and even likely Democrat presidential candidates,
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and they all voted to keep it closed. In the House,
the same thing was true, so the vote the vote
in the House. So the vote in the House was
two hundred and twenty two to two oh nine, but
of the two hundred and twenty two, only six were Democrats.
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The six Democrats who voted to reopen the government in
the House were Adam Gray of California, Jared Golden of Maine,
Tom Susey of New York, Marie Glusen camp Perez of
Washington State, Don Davis of North Carolina, and Henry Quayar
of Texas. Other than that, every single Democrat in the
House voted keep the government shut, keep food stamps off,
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keep pay stop, keep stop, don't pay air traffic controllers,
keep the delays, keep the cancelations. By the way, just
on flights, the FA said it was it was going
to reduce flights ten percent, but if the shutdown had continued,
the FA had already said it would phase into twenty
percent or more. And virtually every Democrat in boast chambers
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said that sounds good by me. Let's keep this going.
Let's keep the shutdown, I suppose through Thanksgiving, through the
busiest travel time of the year. It is amazing. The
question you have to ask is who are the Democrats
listening to and who are they working for? Yep, because
I think it's obvious on the face of it, they're
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not listening to the American people or working for the
American people. Instead, they're listening to their radical base, and
they're working for their radical base and frankly, their own
political self interest.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Sanata I want to get back into the shutdown aspect
of this for just a moment. There is one I
do think silver lining that's come out of this, and
that is one I think we now really know who
the Democratic Party is. Chuck Schumer is going to be
out of a job. He's not running for reelection. The
Democratic Party has gone full socialists or Marxist or communists,
depending on who you talk to. But it's very clear
(09:08):
there's an excommunication happening of the old establishment Democratic radicals,
that is Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. So that's one
thing that I do think has comeing out of the
show down. The other part of this is there's a
lot of talk right now about Obamacare and the financial disaster.
That it is the Affordable Care Act, it's not affordable,
and that's a grand debate that's now happening in this country.
(09:30):
Kevin O'Leary, mister wonderful, you know him from Shark Tank,
we talked about this and he said this may be
the biggest thing Democrats didn't plan for, is that now
the spotlight is on Obamacare, the subseason, how unaffordable it is,
even though they said it was supposed to be a
great thing.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, I will say that there are a couple things.
You're right that Nancy Pelosi next year will be here
last year in Congress. I think Chuck Schumer. My prediction
is Chuck Schumer doesn't even run for reelection. I think
he is not electable in a Democrat primary in the
state of New York, although, although he's tenacious, he may
(10:06):
well try. But it wouldn't surprise me at all to
see Schumer announce his retirement at the end of his term.
But look, one of the infuriating things of realizing that
virtually every Democrat, even after forty three days, voted to
keep the government shut down. We're going to replay this
whole thing like Groundhog Day on January thirtieth, because the
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continuing Resolution that President Trump just signed expires January thirtieth.
So we'll get through Thanksgiving, we'll get through Christmas, we'll
come back January. And I think there's a very real
possibility that Democrats try this again, maybe not maybe the
same eight who ultimately said okay, reopen the government. Maybe
they'll say we don't want to do this again, and
(10:47):
maybe they'll start right at the beginning by agreeing to
fund the government. We'll see where things are. And I
think the answer to that depends on what you just raised, Ben,
what happens with Obamacare and healthcare. And listen, they claimed
every day of this forty three day shutdown that they
had to have major concessions on Obamacare to save that
(11:08):
that failing government health program. Well they didn't get those
major concessions. They got nothing whatsoever. The government's now open.
But but listen to what President Trump said when he
signed the legislation opening the government, because he talked about
Obamacare and what's going to happen next, Give a listen.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
So I'm always willing to work with anyone, including the
other party. We'll work on something having to do with healthcare.
We can do a lot better, we can do great.
So much money is involved, and we're willing to pay
so much money to the people. So we're going to
pay a lot of money to the people. They're going
to go out and buy their own healthcare, and we're
going to forget this Obamacare madness.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
You hear him talking about madness. He's not wrong.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Even liberals are saying, well, we know that premiums have
gone up two hundred three hundred percent with Obamacare. So
that's why we need the subseus. That is the definition
center of a disaster. It is it is insolvent.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Look, that was the predictable result of Obamacare. That's what
I and the other critics of Obamacare said, what happened.
It's exactly what's happened. Even the Washington Post admits the
so called Affordable Care Act is not affordable. And that
was the Democrats solution to that is give fifty billion
(12:26):
dollars in subsidies from the taxpayer straight to giant health
insurance corporations. It's just corporate welfare. And mind you, these
health insurance corporations, their stock prices have increased, in some
instances more than one thousand percent since Obamacare was signed
into law. The executives that are running these companies are
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making tens of millions of dollars in salary. Their stock
has increased, presumably if they had stock that whole time.
Their stock has increased in hundreds of percents, if not
more than one thousand percent. And the Demo, I mean,
they're craven. By the way, virtually all of the political
contributions from the health insurance companies go to Democrats. So
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the Democrats are delivering fifty billion dollars of cash to
their political donors. And what President Trump said said there
is really important, and we talked about this on Wednesday's podcast.
During the shutdown, I hosted a dozen senators for dinner
Friday night, and we got the President on the phone
and we asked the President if he would engage and
(13:27):
help make the argument that their demands for fifty billion
dollars for health insurance companies were unreasonable and a bad idea.
And he sent out a series of tweets which which
I helped him write, that said, We're not going to
give this money for the Obamacare scam to health insurance companies. Instead,
the money ought to flow to individuals, to real people
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in health savings accounts that you control, that you own,
that you're the one making the choice of how to
spend money on your healthcare. That is a fundamental reform
and healthcare that will lower prices, lower costs, that actually
will help keep things affordable. And I think we have
an opportunity to really increase competition, increase consumer choice, and
(14:15):
put consumers in a significantly better situation. Now, there are
two ways that could happen one. We could see eight, nine,
ten reasonable Democrats willing to work with Republicans on something
that does that, and we could have legislation that gets
sixty votes, because to do that through ordinary, ordinary procedures
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takes sixty votes, just like it takes sixty votes to
fund the government. I think that's unlikely, although I'm sure
in the next month there will be some Republicans who try.
If the Democrats are not willing to do that. The
other avenue we have to address this problem is reconciliation,
and we can take up another budget reconciliation that only
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takes fifty votes. And it may well be that we
have to do a budget reconciliation, which is how we
pass the one big beautiful bill this summer to fix
Obamacare and effectively to repeal the mess that is Obamacare
and instead expand consumer choice and and enhance affordability, and
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and give people access to health savings accounts where the
money that would have gone to enrich the health insurance
companies instead is going to you the patient, you the consumer.
And if we can do that on reconciliation, that that
would be a major victory for our constituents. It's actually
why I think the Democrats are not going to have
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any interested in doing it. They're much more interested in
taking care of their fat cat political donors than they
are actually in making healthcare affordable for real people are struggling. Remember,
these are the same people that were happy to see
food steps shut down because it was more important to
them to make a political point to their activists than
to help people who were in need of food to
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actually get the food they needed. And so I think
when it comes to healthcare, my prediction is we'll have
to do it on reconciliation because I think the Democrats
will not be willing to do anything reasonable. But we'll
see in the next couple of months.
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is we get to talk about issues that are not
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getting the attention they deserve. One of those right now
is the persecution of Christians and Nigeria. It is shocking
what is happening there. And I just came back from Israel.
We haven't got to talk about that as much as
we thought because the government shut down, and we're gonna
get to that. But one of the things that you
see when you see that people are under attacked because
their faith and I witnessed it going into the kibbutz
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into the homes of those that were killed, including that
nine month old child. When I met with the parents
who lost their loved ones on that soccer fill as
their kids were just playing soccer. When I went to
the North and I saw the homes that were destroyed
and met with people whose lives are destroyed by Hamas
there and you witness this type of persecution and death
(19:07):
and destruction, and went to the site where the music
festival was and watch people die just because.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
They were Jews.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
It makes me angry to now see what's happening in Nigeria.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
You're shining a lot on that.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
The White House is doing that as well, and the
American people need to know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah, listen, Radical Islamic terrorists, they hate Christians and they
hate Jews, and they have murdered vast numbers of Christians,
They have murdered vast number of Jews. They continue to
do so, and they also murder a significant number of Muslims.
Radical Islamic terrorists if you don't embrace their radical jihadist view,
their ideology justifies violence or even murder to force you
(19:49):
to submit. And the thirteen years I've been in the Senate,
I've spent a lot of time fighting for persecuted Christians,
fighting for persecuted Christians all across the globe, especially those
being persecuted by radical Islamic terrorists. Boko Haram, that is
in Nigeria, is a vicious radical Islamic terrorist group. And
(20:09):
if you look at there is no country on planet
Earth where more Christians have been murdered in the last
twenty years than Nigeria. Since two thousand and nine, more
than fifty thousand Christians have been murdered in the country
of Nigeria.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I mean literally, these Christians are being hunted down.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, they absolutely are. Over twenty thousand Christian churches and
schools have been burned to the ground or otherwise destroyed.
I mean, this has been mass murder and it is horrific.
And so I filed legislation in the Senate to direct
the administration to designate Nigeria Country of Particular Concern and
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to impose in particular sanctions on the government officials, because
there are many government officials who are acquiescing in this
mass murder against Christians, and and and so my legislation
would would impose sanctions on particular government officials that there
are twelve states in the North where Sharia laws or
blasphemy laws are enforced. There's also federal Sharia and blasphemy
(21:14):
laws that are enforced, and the government officials use those
laws to discriminate against and to persecute Christians. In some instances,
they simply just turn a blind eye, as as Bokoharram
and other radical Islamic terrorists murder Christians. In other instances,
they actually used the law to facilitate the persecution. But
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after I filed the legislation, and and and I began
pressing the administration to designate Nigeria as a country a
particular concern, President Trump did so, and he sent out
a tweet. Here's what his tweet says. It says Christianity
is facing an existential threat in Nigeria. Thousands of Christians
are being killed. Radical Islamists are responsible for this mass slaughter.
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I am hereby making Nigeria a country of particular concern,
but that is the least of it. When Christians or
any such group is slaughtered like is happening in Nigeria.
Thirty one hundred versus four four hundred and seventy six worldwide.
Something must be done. I am asking Congressman Riley Moore,
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together with Chairman Tom Cole and the House Appropriations Committee,
to immediately look into this matter and report back to me.
The United States cannot stand by while such atrocities are
happening in Nigeria and numerous other countries. We stand ready,
willing and able to save our great Christian population around
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the world. Donald J. Trump, President of the United States,
that was exactly the right thing to do. I saw
President Trump shortly after he issued that designation and I
thanked him. I said, it really makes a difference. It's
the right thing to do. He was happy to do it.
And I'll tell you the government in Nigeria is deeply
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and their response, their main defense they say, well, they
argue it's not a genocide. And what they say is, well, yes,
fifty thousand Christians have been killed, but you know what,
Bukah Haram has also killed Muslims, so it's all fine. Well,
it is true they have killed Muslims. Nobody's disputing that
they've killed Muslims as well. But radical Islamic terrorists target
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Christians in particular for persecution, and the government is complicit
in that persecution. That's what this is designed to address.
And and you know, I got to say, you and
I have talked about before that those who hate Jews
hate Christians, and those who hate Israel hate America. That
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that is true. We've also talked about rising anti Semitism,
and we've talked quite a bit about Tucker Carlson because
I think Tucker has unfortunately gone down a very very
dark path, a path where he brings on Hitler, praising
nutjobs on to do show over and over and over again.
But it also results. Not only does he attack Israel
(24:07):
at almost every show he does, but when you go
on the path of hating Israel and blame everything on
the Jews, that often that same dark path leads you
to embrace the enemies of America. So Tucker has said
we should apologize to the family of Osama bin Laden. No, no,
we should not. Tucker has said he doesn't know that
(24:30):
Hamas is a terrorist organization. They might just be a
political group. I'm sorry, but when you murder twelve hundred
innocent civilians and rape women and children, you are most
definitely a terrorist group. And Hamas has killed a great
many Americans. But it really was striking. Just recently, Tucker
did a show where he talked about Nigerians and he
(24:51):
disputed that Christians in Nigeria are being persecuted. I want
you to give a listen because he took the chance
to basically defend Book Haram. Give a listen.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
But he's all of a sudden, kind of out of nowhere,
deeply concerned about the play of Christians in Nigeria, which
I want to restate maybe a tolly bel concerning them.
But that's weird. What is that all of a sudden
everybody's concern about people who clearly have no track record
being interested in Chritians at all, including ce Cruz. What
is going on?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
That to me was pretty unhinged.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Senator, Look, I gotta say, listen. I understand that Tucker's
told the world there's no one he hates more than
Christian Zionists, and he singled out me and Mike Huckabee
as the people he hates the most in the world.
But that's truly a bizarre claim. What he says there,
which is that I have no interest in defending persecuted Christians.
(25:40):
I've literally spent thirteen years doing that. You know, I
might ask Tucker that does he have any idea who
Miriam Ibrahim is? And I suspect he doesn't. So Mariam
Ibrahim was a Christian woman in Soudan and she was
imprisoned and she was sentenced to receive one hundred lashes
and then to by the neck until dead for the
(26:02):
crime of being a Christian. And this was during Barack
Obama's presidency. This was early in my time in the Senate.
And I spoke out vocally for Miriam Ibrahim. And she
had two little kids. She had a son named Martin,
and she actually gave birth to a daughter, Maya while
she was in leg irons. And I'll tell you, I repeatedly,
(26:23):
practically begged the Obama administration for President Obama to just
say her name. He would not do it. He never
once said her name. I went to the Senate floor,
I gave floor speeches. I shined a light, and globally
many the Pope got involved shining a light defending her,
and the pressure became so great Soudan released her. And Ben,
(26:44):
I'll tell you it's an amazing thing. I actually got
to meet Mariam Ibrahim when she came to Washington, and
I asked her. She was a little bitty woman. She's
not very very tall, maybe five to one. She couldn't
have weighed more than one hundred pounds. And I asked her,
I said, Mariam, tell me, when when you were in
that prison cell and your babies are in front of you,
and you've been sentenced to die for your faith, how
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did you not give up hope? And she looked at
me with a peace that I'll never forget, and she
just said Jesus was with me. And I mean, it
was powerful, incredible. But I think this illustrates how anti
Semitism is a poison that ends up poisoning every other view.
(27:29):
So now Tucker is running around defending Hamas, defending Book
of Haram, saying, well, I don't know that Nigerians or
Christians are being killed in Nigeria, and why does anyone
care about that? And apparently Tucker is only interested in
atrocities if he can blame them on Israel, And since
it's not Israel that's killing Christians in Nigeria, it's not
a concern for him. Look, I think we should defend
(27:53):
Christians when they're being persecuted. I think we should defend
Jews when they're being persecuted. I think we should stand
up and and and and make a difference. Now that
doesn't mean that we invade every country in which there's injustice,
but it does mean we use our voice as a
voice to stand up for those. And Look, as you know,
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my dad was imprisoned and tortured in Cuba, and so
I have a particular heart for for people who are
unjustly detained uh and and and have spent a long
time highlighting and and doing everything we can to get
people out of unjust attentions, whether in in Sudan or China,
(28:35):
or or or uh Lebanon or anywhere. And and and
I'm very glad President Trump is standing up for the
Christians in Nigeria.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I want to take a moment and just talk to
you real quick about an incredible opportunity for you to
continue to expand your mind and learn, no matter what
your age is. Senator Cruz and I were at the
memorial service for Charlie Kurr and one of the people
that spoke was the president of Hillsdale College, and he
talked about meeting with Charlie early on and how he said,
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you're going to have to work hard. You're going to
have to suffer, and you're going to have to continue
to learn. When he was so young and he talked
about all of the classes that Charlie ended up taking
at Hillsdale, I immediately said, I want the listeners of
this show to be able to have the same opportunity
to do that. There are amazing classes history, economics, the
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great works of literature, the meaning of the US Constitution.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
And if you didn't say these.
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you know, just trying to check the box and make
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All right, I want to end the show with talking
about something else that is really made me sad this week.
It's also I think, really telling you where we are
(31:19):
as a country with the radical left. We have seen
violent protesters at a Turning Point US USA event at
UC Berkeley. I wish it wasn't what we witnessed, but
it was radical leftists. I want to know who's funding them, Senator,
I want to know who's behind this, but it is
it is shocking to see this level of rhetoric and
(31:43):
attacks on conservatives who are just going to have a conversation.
And it's very eerily close to what we witnessed with
the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Look, the pattern of left wing violence continues, and it
continues across the country, and it continues with the acquiescence
and support of of many on the far left, far
too many on the far left.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
This week, Turning Point USA had a rally at u
C Berkeley. Now, the speakers at the rally were doctor
Frank Turik, who's a Christian pastor, and Rob Schneider, who's
a comedian and actor. So it's it's not like either
of these speakers were particularly controversial in any normal or
sane place. But but UC Berkeley is not necessarily a
(32:33):
normal or sane place, and and Antifa targeted them, targeted
the people coming into the rally coming in to see
to to see listen to the speakers, and they were violent. Uh,
let me read how how how Fox covered it. A
bloody fight broke out near the University of California Berkeley
on Monday afternoon ahead of a Turning Point USA event
(32:55):
on campus. The event, which featured doctor Frank Turk and
Rob Schneider mark the end of this is Turning Point Tour.
It took place just two months after Turning Point USA's
founder Charlie Kirk was assassinated at a campus event in
Utah on September tenth. The confrontation erupted around four thirty
pm Pacific Standard time. During the brawl, two men were
(33:17):
seen fighting each other, one of whom had blood gushing
from his face, and you can watch the video. Video
taken by Fox News Digital also shows a crowd of
agitators gathered around the fight. These were left wing antifa activists.
(33:39):
They were chanting obscene chants that they were celebrating that
Charlie Kirk had been murdered. They were chanting how happy
they are about that. Most of them had masks. And
you can watch the video online of one of the
(34:00):
people coming to the Turning Point event who they beat
the hell out of him and his face is bleeding
profusely and they engaged in violence. And I'll tell you
what is frustrating is where was the administration of Berkeley
where was the police? Why are they allowing violent protesters?
(34:21):
And look, these are the same administrators. This is the
same faculty that allowed their campuses to be taken over
for weeks and months on end by radical anti Semitic protesters,
by antifa communists who again engage in threats of violence.
And in both instances, these are not organic. They're being
paid for. There is I've been saying for a long time,
(34:44):
follow the money. I've been urging the Department of Justice
and the FBI to follow the money. I've introduced legislation,
the Stop Thunders Act to add rioting as a predicate act. Tariko,
to let us go after the money that is behind
these violent anarchists. And I'll tell you what's being reported now.
This is another story. Fox News covered UC Berkeley's bloody
(35:05):
protest of Turning Point USA, allegedly funded by far left nonprofit.
Attorney General Pambondy opens anti terrorism investigation into campus clash
outside Turning Point USA event. And here's what Fox reports.
Last month, a band of demonstrators marched across West Temple
Street in downtown Los Angeles in the national anti Trump
(35:29):
No King's protest, carrying a banner that read defeat Trump's
fascist takeover, stop ice raids and deportations by any means necessary.
And in one corner, four bold letters stood out B
A M N, an acronym for by any means necessary.
(35:52):
The rest of the banner spelled out clues to the
group's full name and smaller print quote Coalition to defend
Affirmative Action in agration and immigration rights and fight for
equality by any means necessary. That organization one of two
hundred and sixty six groups with combined annual revenues of
(36:13):
two point nine billion dollars two point nine billion dollars
identified by Fox News Digital leading the No King's protests,
would soon reappear at this week's flashpoint on the campus
of University of California, Berkeley, And so this group. A
flyer circulated before the demonstration urged participants to quote end
(36:37):
fascist turning Points youth oriented campaign of incitement to violence.
Now ironically they're accusing Turning Point of incitement to violence,
and they show up and violently assault the people who
are going to Turning Point. This is its classic Marxist
technique of projecting and accusing your opponents of doing what
you're doing. And this flier announced a rally outside at
(37:00):
Zellerbach Hall an hour before the door's open for the event. Well,
the good news is and a QR page printed on
the flyer leads to a page on BAMN dot com,
which is a domain of this group that was helping
fund the No Kings rallies. And so there is an
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entire ecosystem with money flowing to promote violence. And thankfully
the Department of Justice under Pambondi has announced that they're
doing an anti terrorism investigation to go after to follow
the money. And I'll tell you also, the Assistant Attorney
General for Civil Rights is questioning, is questioning why Berkeley
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allowed this to happen. In fact, Assistant Attorney General for
Civil Rights Arment Dylan formally demanded that you see Berkeley
preserve all records regarding their response to the mob violence
at at Berkeley's Turning Point USA event. All records good.
(38:09):
And that's because I suspect they're going to find They're
going to find emails, They're going to find administrators saying
communicating back and forth, just like we did with the
anti Semitic protesters, where it is clear that the administrators
do not want to protect the people at Turning Point
USA do not want the police to stop violence if
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it's directed against conservatives. And there's a real moral decay
at our universities. And I'm glad we have an Apartment
of Justice that's willing to enforce the law and go
after number one, the money behind the left wing violence,
but number two the administrators who are facilitating And I
got to say, it is not dissimilar to what's happening
(38:52):
in Nigeria we talked about a minute ago, where you
have government officials who look the other way and refuse
to enforce the law to protect crists. In Berkeley's case,
I suspect the evidence will indicate the school administrators look
the other way and refuse to protect the students at
Turning Point USA because they're rooting for the Antifa rioters
(39:15):
who are physically assaulting those students.
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