November 16, 2022 • 32 mins
Former VP Mike Pence is here to discuss his new book, "So Help Me God."
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All right, our two Sean Hannity Show toll free on
numbers eight hundred ninety four one Sean if you want
to be a part of the program. Former Vice President
Mike Pence will be here in a second. He has
a brand new book out, and actually this is a
promotion for it. Let me play this for you. So
Helping God is really just the story of my life,
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and it was a great privilege for me to be
able to put it on paper, to tell the story
of my family, my iriship grandfather, my combat veteran dad,
my precocious and unstoppable mom now ninety years young, but
also to tell the story about our journey in my
own development, starting in politics as a Democrat, being drawn
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to the Republican Party and by Ronald Reagan and a
lifelong love for the Constitution of the United States would
inform my path early days, lessons learned, and congression campaigns.
He would always be the guiding principles to me and
former Vice President Mike Pence's brand new book is out today.
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It's in bookstores all across the country. It's on Hannity
dot com, Amazon dot com. He's been a friend of
mine for I guess now thirty years and I'm honored
to call him a friend. And he's a real friend, um,
and probably one of the most you know, legitimately devout
Christians I've ever met in my life. And uh, and
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he lives that life. Mister Vice President, It's an honor
to have you. How are you, sir, Sean Hannity, Thanks,
thank you for those overly generous words. Great to be
on the radio program today, and I'm hearing from people
all over the country about our conversation last night. Thanks,
thanks for giving us a chance. The response was phenomenal,
Honestly it was. And we get response every night, but
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some nights, you know, my phone just explodes, and that
was the case last night, which is all a tribute
to you, because they weren't exploding. It wasn't exploding because
I'm on, because I'm on every night. But you know,
so help me, God, Well, this is a part of
you that I don't that people don't know that I
want people to know, not only in my life, but
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in the life of many many people. I know. You
make the call when you know it's a hard time.
You make the call when people are under fire, You
make the call when there's a death in the family,
you make the call when an accident has happened, and
you do it all day, every day, and have done
it for decades, and people I bet don't know that
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about you. Well, you're very kind, and I thought you
were talking about so many Americans who've taken the oath
of office. You know. The title of the book comes
from the last words in my oath of office as
Vice President and to no less extent, when I was
governor and when I was for twelve years a fighting
conservative in the Congress of the United States. It ends
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with a prayer, so help me God, and it but
it's the same oath as my Marine Corps son reminded
me one time during some difficult days a few years ago,
that it's the same oath he took. It's the same
oath all of our many women in uniform takes, Sean,
It's the same oath men and women who serving law
enforcement and public safety all over the country. Tick. So
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I'm I'm humbled to be associated with those people. And
I love what the Bible says that Insoalm fifteen, that
he keeps his oath even when it hurts. And I
have some experience with that, I know, I know what
it means to have to stand in the gap and
keep your word. But I gave my word to the
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American people. I gave my word to Almighty God, and
by God's grace, we worked every day to keep it well.
I don't think there's been a more successful administration, and
it was rooted on conservative principles. I describe conservatism simply.
My audience knows my forty five second pitch on how
easy conservatism really is. You can break it down, but
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you actually did. You know, spur economic growth, You did
lower taxes, you did bring energy independence back after seventy
five years, you did stop illegal immigration. Piece through strength
was clear and obvious. America's place in the world was dominant,
and people feared us rightly. So I think that's the
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way it should be, not that we would ever abuse
that power or want to abuse that power. And I
think we've lost a lot of that, and I worry
about it. I'm happy the Republicans captured the House, but
I'd like to see Republicans in charge completely well, and
nobody summarizes it better than you, And I think one
of the things I appreciated about last night on television
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was thank you for noticing that my autobiography is not
only about my whole life, but it's it's been described
as maybe the most thorough defense of the record of
the Trump Pen's administration that's been written. It was, you know,
it's the greatest privilege of my life to be Vice
President of the United States in an administration that literally
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rebuild our military, revived our economy, and gave Americans a
new beginning for life with a conservative majority on the
Supreme Court of the United States. Obviously, it didn't end well,
and I write candidly about those days and about how
the President and I found a way to part amicably. Nonetheless,
but I hope that people that share our conservative values
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around the country will we'll take time to look at
this book, because I think as I describe the battles
for conservative values in the Congress, our battles back home
in Indiana, lessons learned there, and then the extraordinary success
of the Trump Pens administration. My heart's desires that, so
help me, God, will We'll give people confidence and hope
about the future. We did it before, and we can
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do it all again. And whenever those principles are applied.
They work. It worked for Reagan, it worked when new
Ingrad became speaker, It worked under the administration with you
and President Trump. It just works. These policies and principles,
they're timeless, and they can get us out of a
lot of problems we're now experiencing. I believe a lot
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of itself inflicted. You know, you said something to me
last I really believe that. I mean it's I was
asked earlier today if I had any regrets, And my
only regret is having to witness the policies that we
put into effect, you know, policies that secured our border,
that had America standing with our allies, standing up to
our enemies around the world. Saw historic peace breakthrough in
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the Middle East, saw seven million jobs created, an unemployment
at a fifty year low, saw a new beginning for
the sanctity of life. Literally one policy after another dismantled
by an administration that seems intent on weakening America at
home and abroad every day. But but I hope as
people take a look at So help me, God, it'll
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it'll remind them of everything we were able to do
in such a short period of time. With those two
years of a Republican House and a Republican Senate with
voices like yours in the national debate out there given
us the air cover, Sean, we made incredible progress for
this country. And I my desire is that the story
and so help me, God will give people hope that
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that we can do it all again. It it'll all
come back faster than you could ever imagine. But it's
going to take that new leadership coming into the House
a representatives, going to take a new Senate, going to
take new leadership in the White House. And I believe
it's all comming. Sewan, How do you explain what happened
on Tuesday, last week, one week ago today? And I mean,
it's amazing, all right, Republicans won the House. I'll be
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by a smaller majority than some anticipated. I was warning
people that not to be overly exuberant, and they weren't listening,
and only because every Senate race was a swing state,
Bellweather State, very hard to win for Republicans. But you know,
there are certain things I can't explain. Republicans never win,
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you know, the vote count that they don't win by
five million votes, and they did this time. And yet
they didn't win. They didn't win more races that I'm
having a hard time reconciling that. It doesn't make sense
to me. And usually things I can figure out and
give a good explanation for, but that doesn't. It's inexplicable
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somewhat to me. Well, first off, let me you know me, Well,
we haven't known each other for thirty years. I'm a
glass is half full guy. I mean, look a win
as a win. I was there the last time we
fired Nancy Pelosi, and I'll tell you the day she
hands that gavel to Kevin McCarthy as the news Speaker
of the House, it's going to be a great day
for America. But I share the disappointment of so many
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around the country that we didn't do even better in
the House, that we didn't win the Senate and win
some key governorships around the country where we had extraordinary
candidates like like lez Alden and Christine Dreysen and Oregon
and Mark Runketty in New Mexico. And for me, one
of the enduring lessons of the election was that elections
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are about the future, and the candidates that we that
we put forward that were truly focused on the future,
on the challenges facing the American people today, which record
record inflation and a crisis at our border, and gasoline
prices through the roof, and crime in our major cities.
The candidates that focused on the challenges today and solutions
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for the future did well, But the candidates that were
looking back, candidates that were focused on the past and
relitigating the past, didn't do as well. And so I
think it's a It is a reminder to us that,
you know, the American people want to see men and
women in public life that are truly focused, where they're
focused on the needs of their family, the challenges that
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they're facing, and the opportunities that we have to put
those same principles of the trump Ens administration back into policy.
They're leveled for a boundless American future. It really is
out there. You can smell it, you can feel it,
you can taste it. And we did it before, we'll
do it again. I mean, America has had you know,
we went through a civil war, a revolutionary war, we
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went through two World wars. My dad fought in World
War Two, and we went through nine to eleven a depression.
I mean, I can mention all sorts of things that
we've gone through as a country, and we always come
out on the other side. One thing that I'm looking at, though,
I'm seeing a country more divided and philosophically than I've
ever seen. I mean, I look at, for example, Raphael Warnock,
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I look at John Feederman, I look at Mandela Barnes
as the three most extreme candidates that I've ever covered
in my lifetime. Usually Democrats, if they had radical views,
they kept it to themselves, and that's why they would
often try to pack the courts or use the courts
to legislate from the bench. Now they're just out there
with these views. How do we reconcile capitalism versus socialism?
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How do you reconcile energy and dependence with no domestic
energy production. How do you reconcile defund dismantle the police,
no bail laws with law and order and safety and security.
How do you reconcile woke education versus classical education, reading, writing, math, science, history,
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and computers? Because I see the divide has never been
this big. Well, look, I think our politics are more
divided than at any time in my lifetime. But I'm
not convinced the American people are as divided as our politics.
I mean, as I've traveled around the country, having returned
home to Indiana now almost two years ago, I'm more
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convinced than ever that there's more the Unisis in this
country than could ever divide us. In Chief among those
things is our faith, our dedication to family, our belief
in freedom. And I think now we have the opportunity
to step forward and articulate a vision for the American
people that will unite us around those timeless American ideals.
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But I think I think it's going to take It's
going to take us producing candidates at every level that
I'm sure we'll do that will focus on those issues
and appeal to those core values of the American people
a new and in renewed ways we do that not
only will not only will Republicans win, but we'll win
the future for every American. I also believe that pain
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is a great awakener. And I think at some point
when Americans get sick and tired of record high inflation
and record high gas prices and wide open borders and
you know, record high crime rates, I think at some
point as a tipping point and they say this just
isn't working anymore. You know it. It sounded great, defund, dismantle,
reimagine the police, but having men and women willing to
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put their lives on the line and protecting our cities
in small towns, there's no better solution than that. That's right,
That's right. Look, I think the American people will know
what makes this country strong and secure and prosperous. We
just got to have government as good as our people again.
And as I've said to you before, I think I
think that in the days ahead, we need to not
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only stand strong on common sense conservative principles, which you've
done every day of your broadcast life and I've sought
to do, and it's a chronicle in my book, so
help me God, but also I think I think we
need to begin to articulate those in ways that unite
the American people around our highest ideals that we you know,
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you get outside of politics show, and the people in
this country actually get along pretty well. I mean that's
you know, I'm back to shop. You haven't been out
with me lately. Half the country hates me, so but
that's a different story. We'll take a poll on me.
You'll find the same thing as true. But I don't
want to pull on any of us. Let me ask
you this, people in this country can come together around
our highest ideals, and we speak to those, we'll speak
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to the future. All Right, mister Vice President, if you
could stay a few more moments, I have one more question.
I really want this audience to hear this part of
the book that you describe a private meeting that you
had towards the end of the administration with the President.
We'll get to that. On the other side, Mike Pence's
new book is out, so help me god, It's in
bookstores everywhere, Amazon dot com, Hannity dot Com. And I
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will take a quick break, we'll come back. We'll continue
more with the Vice President on the other side. Maybe
come on, man, it's taken me forty seven years to
perfect doing nothing. I had to become president to show yeah,
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I could do that better than anybody. Joe Biden, the
most dangerous man in America. This is the Sean Hannity Show, Sir,
Hermon Gotti really just the story of my life, and
it was a great privilege for me to be able
to put it on paper, to tell the story of
my family, my Irish immigrant grandfather, my combat veteran dad,
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my precocious and unstoppable mom now ninety years young, but
also to tell the story about our journey and my
own development. Starting in politics as a Democrat, being drawn
to the Republican Party of by Ronald Reagan and a
lifelong love for the Constitution of the United States would
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inform my path early days, lessons learned, and congressional campaigns,
but he would always be the guiding principles and me.
All right, before we get back to Vice President Mike
Pants's new book is helped by the way So help
Me God, and the question my last question for him,
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Shawn our number if you want to be a part
of the program. We continue. I have one more question
for former Vice President Mike Pence. His new book is
out today. It's called So Help Me God, and it's
in bookstores all around the country. Hannity dot com, Amazon
dot com, and mister Vice President. As we continue, they
are over what the fifty two fifty three chapters. I
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forget off the top of my head that you have
in the book, and I know in almost every interview
except the one you did with me, they only focused
on one topic, and so I wanted to make our
interview a little bit different. But there's one part of
that that intrigues me the most, and that is when
all was said and done, and you know, after you
went through this tough period, because I would argue, up
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until the election of November twenty twenty, you worked as
a phenomenal team. That's what I saw. And I know
both you and President Trump for thirty years, but there
was a private meeting between the two of you. You
discuss it in the book, and I think it's very insightful.
You want to tell us about it, you bet, And
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first let me just let me just affirm what you
just said. Look, for four and a half years, I
was always loyal to President Donald Trump. He was not
only my president, he was my friend. And whenever we
had disagreements, I kept them in private and I supported
the President his policies without fail. My only higher loyalty
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was to God in the Constitution, and that's what caused
the clash. The confrontation on the tragic day in January.
But to your point, in the roughly five days after that,
the President asked for an opportunity to meet with me.
He'd already said all the right things. He condemned the violence,
committed to a peaceful transfer of power, and in fact
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took time to address the nation and called for unity
in America. And I went down to the Oval Office.
I couldn't help but think of that Bible verse that
it says to be quick to listen, slow to speak,
slow to become angry. But it was easier said than done,
because I was angry, Sean. I was angry at what
had happened. I was angry at at many of the
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President's words and actions. But I wanted to hear him out.
And I went down to the Oval Office, walked back
to that small dining room, and there we spoke, and
the President expressed concern from my wife and daughter. I
told him they were fine. I was candid with him
and direct about my feelings about that day, but I
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also encouraged him to pray. The Presidents told me many
times that he's a believer, and I also told him
that I was praying and for him, and in another meeting,
you know, he reflected I think a genuine sadness about
what had happened, or I thought the President was genuinely
remorseful about what had occurred, not just with regard to me,
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but at the Capitol itself. And when I was leaving
after a meeting a few days later, I told him.
I told him I was praying for him again, and
he immediately was dismissive about it. But as I was
leaving the room, I looked at him as he sat
at the end of the table, and I said, well,
I guess there's two things we're probably always going to
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disagree on. And he looked up wearily and said what,
And I said, referring to our disagreement over my role
on January sixth. And then I said, I'm also never
going to stop praying for you, and he smiled faintly
and looked at me and said, that's right. Don't ever change.
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And it was on that foundation that we parted amicably,
and for several months thereafter we spoke. We spoke every
few weeks over the phone, but candidly Sean when he
returned to some of the same rhetoric, being critical of
me and others who had done our duty under the
Constitution that day, I thought it best for us to
go our separate ways. But I'll always be proud of
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the record of our administration, and I'll always keep that
promise to pray for our president and always be grateful
to have been a part of what together we did
for the American people. Mister Vice President at we appreciate
the time that you have given the show. As always,
You're always welcome on these airwaves. Mike Pence, former Vice
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President Mike Pence. His new book is out. It's called
So Help Me God. It's in bookstores all across the country.
It's on Hannity dot com, Amazon dot com and definitely
worth a read. And you are who you say you are.
You always have been, and you've been very kind to
me throughout all the years that I've known you. And
we love having you on the program. And we'll talk soon.
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Thank you, Sean, God bless you, God bless you. Eight
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our busy phones as we say hi to Craig Is
in New York. Craig High How are you glad you called?
How are you doing, Sean? Yeah? I was just wondering,
and I was hoping that maybe you could sit down.
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You talked to a lot of the senators. Maybe you
could sit down with a couple of the senators and
ask them to go over and talk to Mansion. Now
is a perfect time. He's mad about not getting the pipeline.
He's mad about how they stabbed him in the back.
Maybe they could bring him over to the Republican Party
and they could put enough money behind Walker in order
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to push that race toward the Republicans, and that would
kill the Democrats. They'd be jumping out windows. They would
make like Fourth of July look like a kid throwing
a firecracker. It would be the greatest thing in the
world if they could do something like that. Is there
any chance that you could talk to them about that? Listen?
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The answer is, I think it's more viable than it's
ever been. Number one, Mansion is coming up for reelection,
I believe in the next cycle. Number two. When he
was when he was standing up to Biden and the
radical socialist Democrats, he was never more popular in his
home state of West Virginia. When he gave in on
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the tax the rich, I'm sorry, tax the poor, tax
the middle class, and tax people on fixed income Inflation
Reduction Act. His approval ratings plummeted. You know, at the
end of this recent campaign cycle, Joe Biden came out
and said, we're done with cole Well, that destroys the
economy of Joe Mansion state. No one's building new coal
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class because they can't rely on it, even if they
have all the coal guaranteed for the rest of the
existence of the plan. So it's going to become a
win generation. Now. All they're doing is sure going to
save them a hell of a lot of money. And
using the same transmission line that transmitted a coal fired
electric gon, we're going to be shutting these plasts down
all across America. And Joe Mansion was livid about the comments.
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Then then Biden went even further and said he's going
to end all drilling in America. No more drilling. There
is no more drilling. I haven't got formed any new
new drilling. No, that was before I was president. We're
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trying to work on that, get that done, which means,
you know, it's a disaster because we're all going to
be paying massive rates for the lifeblood of the world's economy,
our own economy, and ignore our very own resources here
at home, and ignore the fact that we do a cleaner,
faster and cheaper. So is there an opportunity? And one
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other thing, he was promised something when he went along
with Humor and Biden. He was promised the pipeline. That
pipeline was to benefit the people of West Virginia. That
pipeline is never going to happen. And so they offered
something that they didn't deliver on. And I think, if
I'm Joe Mansion, I am apoplectic at all of it,
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And I think, what he's probably gonna wait for the
results out of Georgia. This is why this race with
herschel Walker is critical. I mean because if with fifty fifty,
Joe Mansion can walk into the Oval office, you know,
invite Chuck Schumer to come in with him and say,
you guys didn't keep your word. You guys lied to me. Joe,
You're now the enemy of the economy of my state,
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and I'm leaving this party. I'll see you later, and
then walk out. And he could do that in two
seconds and say I'm going to go announce and hold
the press conference that I am switching parties and I
am leaving your party. And you pushed me out, both
of you because you're dishonest. You'll lie to me, and
you'll lie to the people of my state, and I'm
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not going to take it any more. Right, That's what
I do. Anyway. Appreciate you being with us Dan in Arizona. Dan,
how are you glad you're with us? Hey, Sean, It's
an honor to talk to you Listeny every day. I'm
a seven year old, fifty seven year old truck driver
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and Arizona native, independent Conservative, and I'm just totally upset, dismayed,
and angry with everything that's been going on here in Arizona.
I remember Arizona when it was a conservative state. We've
had an influx of Californians coming in here with their
politics and people from who knows where else with their politics,
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and this state isn't what it used to be. And
I'm upset at the voters that they didn't pay attention to.
We've got illegals being dropped off in our streets. We've
got drug cartel members having shootouts on I ten we've
got home invasions, we've got car car theft. You know,
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we've had all kinds of stuff. I live in a
little bedroom community out of Phoenix, Kalawatuki. They've dropped busloads
of illegals off at hotels out there, and nobody seems
to remember this stuff, and they vote the Democrats in.
We have an element of society that gets their news
blurbs off these little five second things off of CNN
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and MSNBC. They're not getting the full story from Fox
News or other conservative reporters. And it's just frustrating to
me to sit back and see this happening. Now we're
blessed with a trifecta of ignorance and incompetence. Katie Hobbs Governor,
Mark Kelly Senator, and Joe Biden President that there is
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an optimistic message. Look, I wish I could tell you
that these issues are going to be resolved and not.
You know what, what what the publicans now can do
with the majority in the House can't be understated though,
and this will help a lot because they can now
challenge may Orchis on the issues. I mean, you're not
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going to impeach them because the Democrats, you know, even
you know, with the fifty fifty Center, it's going to
be impossible. However, they can now they have the investigative
subpoena power to get to the bottom of how it
is this administration is not enforcing the laws of the land.
And not only that, they're offering preferential treatment to illegal immigrants.
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They are violating the law, not enforcing. You know, a
sanctuary states, sanctuary city by its very nature, is in
violation of our laws. It's you know, you're not allowed
to enter this country illegally. It's illegal. You know, that's it.
It's simple. But anyway, and then of course you have
the human trafficking aspect of it. You know, you come in,
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you get no COVID checks, you get no you get
no back ground check, you get a free Biden phone.
Then you get free transportation to any one of the
forty eight states in the continent of the US. And
that system Joe plans to continue, but it's got to
be stopped. And the way I think it's going to
happen is I think that all these people now are
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going to be called in and held accountable. And I
think that the hearings rightfully will expose this for what
it is, and that is institutionalizing lawbreaking. And I think
there's going to be great power there for the Republicans
with this majority now in the House, and I'm glad
that they have it. That's why, you know, for those
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people that are disappointed that a lot of these swing
states didn't go to the the Republicans way, I'm sure I
would have preferred to go that they go the other way.
The only I can say is I knew at the
beginning of this election cycle that these were all bellweather
swing states and none of them were going to be
easy to win. So you got to you gotta take
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you wins where you can get them and then hold
these people acountable. And I think now the House is
going to go headstrong right into all of these issues.
The power to subpoena, the power of the purse of
the two biggest weapons that the Republicans have in the House,
and I would anticipate that they're going to use it,
and so that that is that's good for the country,
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because we need to resolve these issues. Anyway. I listen,
I wish I had better words. How are you doing
in your trucking business? By the way, I'm worried about
all you guys and the price you're paying for diesel
if you can even find the diesel. There is a
shortage now nationwide that is getting scary. We're starting to
feel the pinch because the housing is flowing down an
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I hauled construction equipment. So it's starting to put the
kabash on us a little bit with the interest rates
going up on housing. Listen, what did I say would happened?
And I predicted it over a year ago. I said,
watch what happens. New home construction will come to a
screeching halt. The next step, the next shoot drop, is
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going to be sales of pre existing homes that'll come
to a screeching halt. That has now happened except for
some there are some exceptions in states that have you know,
all these this mass migration I keep talking about, or
accelerated migration, people leaving blue states that are conservative and
moving the red states. They will fare so much better.
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And home prices have plummeted, and we've lost billions of
dollars in valuations for people's homes, which end up being
their biggest investment. And add that to the bad stock
market and it's not good yep. Anyway, I appreciate the call. Listen,
thanks for what you do. Also, I mean it's now
do you do you have an eighteen wheeler or flatbed?
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What do you got to the eighteen wheeler? And I
also have a big big low boy for Paul and
there I can growth out anywhere from eighty to one
hundred and twenty five thousand. So I know people in
the trucking business that have decided to sit it out
until the business gets better and it becomes more profitable.
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And it's sad to see. But supplying demand now, well,
well we'll drive up the prices of of what you
guys can charge. You cannot absorb the high cost, especially
independent operators, the high cost of diesel and do routes
and not make any money. And if people are not
making money, they're not going to stay in business. That
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munch I can tell you. Anyway, appreciate the call. Hanging
in there, buddy eight hundred nine Sean, if you want
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to be a part of the program. Former Vice President
Mike Pence will be here in a second. He has
a brand new book out, and actually this is a
promotion for it. Let me play this for you. So
Helping God is really just the story of my life,
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and it was a great privilege for me to be
able to put it on paper, to tell the story
of my family, my iriship grandfather, my combat veteran dad,
my precocious and unstoppable mom now ninety years young, but
also to tell the story about our journey in my
own development, starting in politics as a Democrat, being drawn
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to the Republican Party and by Ronald Reagan and a
lifelong love for the Constitution of the United States would
inform my path early days, lessons learned, and congression campaigns.
He would always be the guiding principles to me and
former Vice President Mike Pence's brand new book is out today.
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It's in bookstores all across the country. It's on Hannity
dot com, Amazon dot com. He's been a friend of
mine for I guess now thirty years and I'm honored
to call him a friend. And he's a real friend, um,
and probably one of the most you know, legitimately devout
Christians I've ever met in my life. And uh, and
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he lives that life. Mister Vice President, It's an honor
to have you. How are you, sir, Sean Hannity, Thanks,
thank you for those overly generous words. Great to be
on the radio program today, and I'm hearing from people
all over the country about our conversation last night. Thanks,
thanks for giving us a chance. The response was phenomenal,
Honestly it was. And we get response every night, but
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some nights, you know, my phone just explodes, and that
was the case last night, which is all a tribute
to you, because they weren't exploding. It wasn't exploding because
I'm on, because I'm on every night. But you know,
so help me, God, Well, this is a part of
you that I don't that people don't know that I
want people to know, not only in my life, but
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in the life of many many people. I know. You
make the call when you know it's a hard time.
You make the call when people are under fire, You
make the call when there's a death in the family,
you make the call when an accident has happened, and
you do it all day, every day, and have done
it for decades, and people I bet don't know that
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about you. Well, you're very kind, and I thought you
were talking about so many Americans who've taken the oath
of office. You know. The title of the book comes
from the last words in my oath of office as
Vice President and to no less extent, when I was
governor and when I was for twelve years a fighting
conservative in the Congress of the United States. It ends
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with a prayer, so help me God, and it but
it's the same oath as my Marine Corps son reminded
me one time during some difficult days a few years ago,
that it's the same oath he took. It's the same
oath all of our many women in uniform takes, Sean,
It's the same oath men and women who serving law
enforcement and public safety all over the country. Tick. So
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I'm I'm humbled to be associated with those people. And
I love what the Bible says that Insoalm fifteen, that
he keeps his oath even when it hurts. And I
have some experience with that, I know, I know what
it means to have to stand in the gap and
keep your word. But I gave my word to the
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American people. I gave my word to Almighty God, and
by God's grace, we worked every day to keep it well.
I don't think there's been a more successful administration, and
it was rooted on conservative principles. I describe conservatism simply.
My audience knows my forty five second pitch on how
easy conservatism really is. You can break it down, but
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you actually did. You know, spur economic growth, You did
lower taxes, you did bring energy independence back after seventy
five years, you did stop illegal immigration. Piece through strength
was clear and obvious. America's place in the world was dominant,
and people feared us rightly. So I think that's the
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way it should be, not that we would ever abuse
that power or want to abuse that power. And I
think we've lost a lot of that, and I worry
about it. I'm happy the Republicans captured the House, but
I'd like to see Republicans in charge completely well, and
nobody summarizes it better than you, And I think one
of the things I appreciated about last night on television
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was thank you for noticing that my autobiography is not
only about my whole life, but it's it's been described
as maybe the most thorough defense of the record of
the Trump Pen's administration that's been written. It was, you know,
it's the greatest privilege of my life to be Vice
President of the United States in an administration that literally
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rebuild our military, revived our economy, and gave Americans a
new beginning for life with a conservative majority on the
Supreme Court of the United States. Obviously, it didn't end well,
and I write candidly about those days and about how
the President and I found a way to part amicably. Nonetheless,
but I hope that people that share our conservative values
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around the country will we'll take time to look at
this book, because I think as I describe the battles
for conservative values in the Congress, our battles back home
in Indiana, lessons learned there, and then the extraordinary success
of the Trump Pens administration. My heart's desires that, so
help me, God, will We'll give people confidence and hope
about the future. We did it before, and we can
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do it all again. And whenever those principles are applied.
They work. It worked for Reagan, it worked when new
Ingrad became speaker, It worked under the administration with you
and President Trump. It just works. These policies and principles,
they're timeless, and they can get us out of a
lot of problems we're now experiencing. I believe a lot
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of itself inflicted. You know, you said something to me
last I really believe that. I mean it's I was
asked earlier today if I had any regrets, And my
only regret is having to witness the policies that we
put into effect, you know, policies that secured our border,
that had America standing with our allies, standing up to
our enemies around the world. Saw historic peace breakthrough in
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the Middle East, saw seven million jobs created, an unemployment
at a fifty year low, saw a new beginning for
the sanctity of life. Literally one policy after another dismantled
by an administration that seems intent on weakening America at
home and abroad every day. But but I hope as
people take a look at So help me, God, it'll
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it'll remind them of everything we were able to do
in such a short period of time. With those two
years of a Republican House and a Republican Senate with
voices like yours in the national debate out there given
us the air cover, Sean, we made incredible progress for
this country. And I my desire is that the story
and so help me, God will give people hope that
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that we can do it all again. It it'll all
come back faster than you could ever imagine. But it's
going to take that new leadership coming into the House
a representatives, going to take a new Senate, going to
take new leadership in the White House. And I believe
it's all comming. Sewan, How do you explain what happened
on Tuesday, last week, one week ago today? And I mean,
it's amazing, all right, Republicans won the House. I'll be
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by a smaller majority than some anticipated. I was warning
people that not to be overly exuberant, and they weren't listening,
and only because every Senate race was a swing state,
Bellweather State, very hard to win for Republicans. But you know,
there are certain things I can't explain. Republicans never win,
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you know, the vote count that they don't win by
five million votes, and they did this time. And yet
they didn't win. They didn't win more races that I'm
having a hard time reconciling that. It doesn't make sense
to me. And usually things I can figure out and
give a good explanation for, but that doesn't. It's inexplicable
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somewhat to me. Well, first off, let me you know me, Well,
we haven't known each other for thirty years. I'm a
glass is half full guy. I mean, look a win
as a win. I was there the last time we
fired Nancy Pelosi, and I'll tell you the day she
hands that gavel to Kevin McCarthy as the news Speaker
of the House, it's going to be a great day
for America. But I share the disappointment of so many
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around the country that we didn't do even better in
the House, that we didn't win the Senate and win
some key governorships around the country where we had extraordinary
candidates like like lez Alden and Christine Dreysen and Oregon
and Mark Runketty in New Mexico. And for me, one
of the enduring lessons of the election was that elections
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are about the future, and the candidates that we that
we put forward that were truly focused on the future,
on the challenges facing the American people today, which record
record inflation and a crisis at our border, and gasoline
prices through the roof, and crime in our major cities.
The candidates that focused on the challenges today and solutions
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for the future did well, But the candidates that were
looking back, candidates that were focused on the past and
relitigating the past, didn't do as well. And so I
think it's a It is a reminder to us that,
you know, the American people want to see men and
women in public life that are truly focused, where they're
focused on the needs of their family, the challenges that
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they're facing, and the opportunities that we have to put
those same principles of the trump Ens administration back into policy.
They're leveled for a boundless American future. It really is
out there. You can smell it, you can feel it,
you can taste it. And we did it before, we'll
do it again. I mean, America has had you know,
we went through a civil war, a revolutionary war, we
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went through two World wars. My dad fought in World
War Two, and we went through nine to eleven a depression.
I mean, I can mention all sorts of things that
we've gone through as a country, and we always come
out on the other side. One thing that I'm looking at, though,
I'm seeing a country more divided and philosophically than I've
ever seen. I mean, I look at, for example, Raphael Warnock,
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I look at John Feederman, I look at Mandela Barnes
as the three most extreme candidates that I've ever covered
in my lifetime. Usually Democrats, if they had radical views,
they kept it to themselves, and that's why they would
often try to pack the courts or use the courts
to legislate from the bench. Now they're just out there
with these views. How do we reconcile capitalism versus socialism?
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How do you reconcile energy and dependence with no domestic
energy production. How do you reconcile defund dismantle the police,
no bail laws with law and order and safety and security.
How do you reconcile woke education versus classical education, reading, writing, math, science, history,
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and computers? Because I see the divide has never been
this big. Well, look, I think our politics are more
divided than at any time in my lifetime. But I'm
not convinced the American people are as divided as our politics.
I mean, as I've traveled around the country, having returned
home to Indiana now almost two years ago, I'm more
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convinced than ever that there's more the Unisis in this
country than could ever divide us. In Chief among those
things is our faith, our dedication to family, our belief
in freedom. And I think now we have the opportunity
to step forward and articulate a vision for the American
people that will unite us around those timeless American ideals.
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But I think I think it's going to take It's
going to take us producing candidates at every level that
I'm sure we'll do that will focus on those issues
and appeal to those core values of the American people
a new and in renewed ways we do that not
only will not only will Republicans win, but we'll win
the future for every American. I also believe that pain
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is a great awakener. And I think at some point
when Americans get sick and tired of record high inflation
and record high gas prices and wide open borders and
you know, record high crime rates, I think at some
point as a tipping point and they say this just
isn't working anymore. You know it. It sounded great, defund, dismantle,
reimagine the police, but having men and women willing to
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put their lives on the line and protecting our cities
in small towns, there's no better solution than that. That's right,
That's right. Look, I think the American people will know
what makes this country strong and secure and prosperous. We
just got to have government as good as our people again.
And as I've said to you before, I think I
think that in the days ahead, we need to not
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only stand strong on common sense conservative principles, which you've
done every day of your broadcast life and I've sought
to do, and it's a chronicle in my book, so
help me God, but also I think I think we
need to begin to articulate those in ways that unite
the American people around our highest ideals that we you know,
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you get outside of politics show, and the people in
this country actually get along pretty well. I mean that's
you know, I'm back to shop. You haven't been out
with me lately. Half the country hates me, so but
that's a different story. We'll take a poll on me.
You'll find the same thing as true. But I don't
want to pull on any of us. Let me ask
you this, people in this country can come together around
our highest ideals, and we speak to those, we'll speak
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to the future. All Right, mister Vice President, if you
could stay a few more moments, I have one more question.
I really want this audience to hear this part of
the book that you describe a private meeting that you
had towards the end of the administration with the President.
We'll get to that. On the other side, Mike Pence's
new book is out, so help me god, It's in
bookstores everywhere, Amazon dot com, Hannity dot Com. And I
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will take a quick break, we'll come back. We'll continue
more with the Vice President on the other side. Maybe
come on, man, it's taken me forty seven years to
perfect doing nothing. I had to become president to show yeah,
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I could do that better than anybody. Joe Biden, the
most dangerous man in America. This is the Sean Hannity Show, Sir,
Hermon Gotti really just the story of my life, and
it was a great privilege for me to be able
to put it on paper, to tell the story of
my family, my Irish immigrant grandfather, my combat veteran dad,
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my precocious and unstoppable mom now ninety years young, but
also to tell the story about our journey and my
own development. Starting in politics as a Democrat, being drawn
to the Republican Party of by Ronald Reagan and a
lifelong love for the Constitution of the United States would
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inform my path early days, lessons learned, and congressional campaigns,
but he would always be the guiding principles and me.
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for former Vice President Mike Pence. His new book is
out today. It's called So Help Me God, and it's
in bookstores all around the country. Hannity dot com, Amazon
dot com, and mister Vice President. As we continue, they
are over what the fifty two fifty three chapters. I
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forget off the top of my head that you have
in the book, and I know in almost every interview
except the one you did with me, they only focused
on one topic, and so I wanted to make our
interview a little bit different. But there's one part of
that that intrigues me the most, and that is when
all was said and done, and you know, after you
went through this tough period, because I would argue, up
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until the election of November twenty twenty, you worked as
a phenomenal team. That's what I saw. And I know
both you and President Trump for thirty years, but there
was a private meeting between the two of you. You
discuss it in the book, and I think it's very insightful.
You want to tell us about it, you bet, And
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first let me just let me just affirm what you
just said. Look, for four and a half years, I
was always loyal to President Donald Trump. He was not
only my president, he was my friend. And whenever we
had disagreements, I kept them in private and I supported
the President his policies without fail. My only higher loyalty
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was to God in the Constitution, and that's what caused
the clash. The confrontation on the tragic day in January.
But to your point, in the roughly five days after that,
the President asked for an opportunity to meet with me.
He'd already said all the right things. He condemned the violence,
committed to a peaceful transfer of power, and in fact
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took time to address the nation and called for unity
in America. And I went down to the Oval Office.
I couldn't help but think of that Bible verse that
it says to be quick to listen, slow to speak,
slow to become angry. But it was easier said than done,
because I was angry, Sean. I was angry at what
had happened. I was angry at at many of the
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President's words and actions. But I wanted to hear him out.
And I went down to the Oval Office, walked back
to that small dining room, and there we spoke, and
the President expressed concern from my wife and daughter. I
told him they were fine. I was candid with him
and direct about my feelings about that day, but I
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also encouraged him to pray. The Presidents told me many
times that he's a believer, and I also told him
that I was praying and for him, and in another meeting,
you know, he reflected I think a genuine sadness about
what had happened, or I thought the President was genuinely
remorseful about what had occurred, not just with regard to me,
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but at the Capitol itself. And when I was leaving
after a meeting a few days later, I told him.
I told him I was praying for him again, and
he immediately was dismissive about it. But as I was
leaving the room, I looked at him as he sat
at the end of the table, and I said, well,
I guess there's two things we're probably always going to
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disagree on. And he looked up wearily and said what,
And I said, referring to our disagreement over my role
on January sixth. And then I said, I'm also never
going to stop praying for you, and he smiled faintly
and looked at me and said, that's right. Don't ever change.
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And it was on that foundation that we parted amicably,
and for several months thereafter we spoke. We spoke every
few weeks over the phone, but candidly Sean when he
returned to some of the same rhetoric, being critical of
me and others who had done our duty under the
Constitution that day, I thought it best for us to
go our separate ways. But I'll always be proud of
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the record of our administration, and I'll always keep that
promise to pray for our president and always be grateful
to have been a part of what together we did
for the American people. Mister Vice President at we appreciate
the time that you have given the show. As always,
You're always welcome on these airwaves. Mike Pence, former Vice
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President Mike Pence. His new book is out. It's called
So Help Me God. It's in bookstores all across the country.
It's on Hannity dot com, Amazon dot com and definitely
worth a read. And you are who you say you are.
You always have been, and you've been very kind to
me throughout all the years that I've known you. And
we love having you on the program. And we'll talk soon.
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Thank you, Sean, God bless you, God bless you. Eight
hundred ninety four one, Sean, if you want to be
a part of the program, all right, let's get to
our busy phones as we say hi to Craig Is
in New York. Craig High How are you glad you called?
How are you doing, Sean? Yeah? I was just wondering,
and I was hoping that maybe you could sit down.
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You talked to a lot of the senators. Maybe you
could sit down with a couple of the senators and
ask them to go over and talk to Mansion. Now
is a perfect time. He's mad about not getting the pipeline.
He's mad about how they stabbed him in the back.
Maybe they could bring him over to the Republican Party
and they could put enough money behind Walker in order
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to push that race toward the Republicans, and that would
kill the Democrats. They'd be jumping out windows. They would
make like Fourth of July look like a kid throwing
a firecracker. It would be the greatest thing in the
world if they could do something like that. Is there
any chance that you could talk to them about that? Listen?
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The answer is, I think it's more viable than it's
ever been. Number one, Mansion is coming up for reelection,
I believe in the next cycle. Number two. When he
was when he was standing up to Biden and the
radical socialist Democrats, he was never more popular in his
home state of West Virginia. When he gave in on
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the tax the rich, I'm sorry, tax the poor, tax
the middle class, and tax people on fixed income Inflation
Reduction Act. His approval ratings plummeted. You know, at the
end of this recent campaign cycle, Joe Biden came out
and said, we're done with cole Well, that destroys the
economy of Joe Mansion state. No one's building new coal
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class because they can't rely on it, even if they
have all the coal guaranteed for the rest of the
existence of the plan. So it's going to become a
win generation. Now. All they're doing is sure going to
save them a hell of a lot of money. And
using the same transmission line that transmitted a coal fired
electric gon, we're going to be shutting these plasts down
all across America. And Joe Mansion was livid about the comments.
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Then then Biden went even further and said he's going
to end all drilling in America. No more drilling. There
is no more drilling. I haven't got formed any new
new drilling. No, that was before I was president. We're
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trying to work on that, get that done, which means,
you know, it's a disaster because we're all going to
be paying massive rates for the lifeblood of the world's economy,
our own economy, and ignore our very own resources here
at home, and ignore the fact that we do a cleaner,
faster and cheaper. So is there an opportunity? And one
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other thing, he was promised something when he went along
with Humor and Biden. He was promised the pipeline. That
pipeline was to benefit the people of West Virginia. That
pipeline is never going to happen. And so they offered
something that they didn't deliver on. And I think, if
I'm Joe Mansion, I am apoplectic at all of it,
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And I think, what he's probably gonna wait for the
results out of Georgia. This is why this race with
herschel Walker is critical. I mean because if with fifty fifty,
Joe Mansion can walk into the Oval office, you know,
invite Chuck Schumer to come in with him and say,
you guys didn't keep your word. You guys lied to me. Joe,
You're now the enemy of the economy of my state,
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and I'm leaving this party. I'll see you later, and
then walk out. And he could do that in two
seconds and say I'm going to go announce and hold
the press conference that I am switching parties and I
am leaving your party. And you pushed me out, both
of you because you're dishonest. You'll lie to me, and
you'll lie to the people of my state, and I'm
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not going to take it any more. Right, That's what
I do. Anyway. Appreciate you being with us Dan in Arizona. Dan,
how are you glad you're with us? Hey, Sean, It's
an honor to talk to you Listeny every day. I'm
a seven year old, fifty seven year old truck driver
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and Arizona native, independent Conservative, and I'm just totally upset, dismayed,
and angry with everything that's been going on here in Arizona.
I remember Arizona when it was a conservative state. We've
had an influx of Californians coming in here with their
politics and people from who knows where else with their politics,
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and this state isn't what it used to be. And
I'm upset at the voters that they didn't pay attention to.
We've got illegals being dropped off in our streets. We've
got drug cartel members having shootouts on I ten we've
got home invasions, we've got car car theft. You know,
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we've had all kinds of stuff. I live in a
little bedroom community out of Phoenix, Kalawatuki. They've dropped busloads
of illegals off at hotels out there, and nobody seems
to remember this stuff, and they vote the Democrats in.
We have an element of society that gets their news
blurbs off these little five second things off of CNN
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and MSNBC. They're not getting the full story from Fox
News or other conservative reporters. And it's just frustrating to
me to sit back and see this happening. Now we're
blessed with a trifecta of ignorance and incompetence. Katie Hobbs Governor,
Mark Kelly Senator, and Joe Biden President that there is
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an optimistic message. Look, I wish I could tell you
that these issues are going to be resolved and not.
You know what, what what the publicans now can do
with the majority in the House can't be understated though,
and this will help a lot because they can now
challenge may Orchis on the issues. I mean, you're not
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going to impeach them because the Democrats, you know, even
you know, with the fifty fifty Center, it's going to
be impossible. However, they can now they have the investigative
subpoena power to get to the bottom of how it
is this administration is not enforcing the laws of the land.
And not only that, they're offering preferential treatment to illegal immigrants.
(28:35):
They are violating the law, not enforcing. You know, a
sanctuary states, sanctuary city by its very nature, is in
violation of our laws. It's you know, you're not allowed
to enter this country illegally. It's illegal. You know, that's it.
It's simple. But anyway, and then of course you have
the human trafficking aspect of it. You know, you come in,
(28:55):
you get no COVID checks, you get no you get
no back ground check, you get a free Biden phone.
Then you get free transportation to any one of the
forty eight states in the continent of the US. And
that system Joe plans to continue, but it's got to
be stopped. And the way I think it's going to
happen is I think that all these people now are
(29:15):
going to be called in and held accountable. And I
think that the hearings rightfully will expose this for what
it is, and that is institutionalizing lawbreaking. And I think
there's going to be great power there for the Republicans
with this majority now in the House, and I'm glad
that they have it. That's why, you know, for those
(29:36):
people that are disappointed that a lot of these swing
states didn't go to the the Republicans way, I'm sure I
would have preferred to go that they go the other way.
The only I can say is I knew at the
beginning of this election cycle that these were all bellweather
swing states and none of them were going to be
easy to win. So you got to you gotta take
(29:57):
you wins where you can get them and then hold
these people acountable. And I think now the House is
going to go headstrong right into all of these issues.
The power to subpoena, the power of the purse of
the two biggest weapons that the Republicans have in the House,
and I would anticipate that they're going to use it,
and so that that is that's good for the country,
(30:19):
because we need to resolve these issues. Anyway. I listen,
I wish I had better words. How are you doing
in your trucking business? By the way, I'm worried about
all you guys and the price you're paying for diesel
if you can even find the diesel. There is a
shortage now nationwide that is getting scary. We're starting to
feel the pinch because the housing is flowing down an
(30:42):
I hauled construction equipment. So it's starting to put the
kabash on us a little bit with the interest rates
going up on housing. Listen, what did I say would happened?
And I predicted it over a year ago. I said,
watch what happens. New home construction will come to a
screeching halt. The next step, the next shoot drop, is
(31:02):
going to be sales of pre existing homes that'll come
to a screeching halt. That has now happened except for
some there are some exceptions in states that have you know,
all these this mass migration I keep talking about, or
accelerated migration, people leaving blue states that are conservative and
moving the red states. They will fare so much better.
(31:22):
And home prices have plummeted, and we've lost billions of
dollars in valuations for people's homes, which end up being
their biggest investment. And add that to the bad stock
market and it's not good yep. Anyway, I appreciate the call. Listen,
thanks for what you do. Also, I mean it's now
do you do you have an eighteen wheeler or flatbed?
(31:44):
What do you got to the eighteen wheeler? And I
also have a big big low boy for Paul and
there I can growth out anywhere from eighty to one
hundred and twenty five thousand. So I know people in
the trucking business that have decided to sit it out
until the business gets better and it becomes more profitable.
(32:05):
And it's sad to see. But supplying demand now, well,
well we'll drive up the prices of of what you
guys can charge. You cannot absorb the high cost, especially
independent operators, the high cost of diesel and do routes
and not make any money. And if people are not
making money, they're not going to stay in business. That
(32:25):
munch I can tell you. Anyway, appreciate the call. Hanging
in there, buddy eight hundred nine Sean, if you want
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