True Crime Tuesday

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You know, it's something I've wanted to try that could
be like a regular feature that we do. I have
been every single night for like the last six months
falling asleep to watching the Dateline channel basically the same
in my I don't even know if it is the
ID network.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
They replay like Oxygen or something.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
So mine is interesting. So I have Exfinity. I don't
know what you get. You guys have, all right, So
I say in my thing Dateline and it just plays
every Dateline episode on a stream. You can't stop them,
you can't pause them, you can't rewind them. You just
got Dateline NonStop. And so I fall asleep to it
because I've got a little bit of a psychotic brain

(00:52):
and a psychotic wife. Chelsea loves daylines and she doesn't
want to have anything on that is going to get
either a her to wake up. So it's something that
she can kind of fall asleep to or be me
to sit there and talk about something. So I won't
talk about the Datelines because I'll just sit there and

(01:12):
let it go and I'll just be like in my brain,
you know, kind of like letting it doze off. And
I used to be this way with Law and Order SVU.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Love it.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
I used to take naps to Law and Order SVU
and it was because I knew exactly who the murderer
was or who the rapist was. They were always the
third person.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
In It's like mindless TV.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
They do it every single time. Third person. Whoever the
third person is that they bring into it that's not
a regular on the show's typically the person. You gotta
be careful.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
I could never fall asleep two days. I mean I
have had it on before, but I am so invested
in those stories that I can't go to sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
I would have enough know And what you do is
love date Line all asleep and then when you want
to know what happened, you google whatever it was. You google.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
A lot of them come from Michigan.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Anna Marie, you know, Tulsa, Oklahoma, and it will come
up as Oh. Back in two thousand and five, Dennis
Murphy did a story on her. You know you're right
though there are a lot of Michigan. There's a lot
of a lot of Michigan.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Lot in Texas.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Aaret Canning just did a whole podcast and somebody asked,
she's one of the Daylin reporters and somebody asked her
where the most cases are that they report on, and
she said she finds herself in Michigan, Texas, and there
was like somewhere random, like North Carolina a lot.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
I know she's a friend of yours, but I got
to be honest. I get disappointed if I get her
for a because I don't like her, and I don't
like Dennis Murphy. I like Josh Mankowitz.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Or well, now there's a new one, Bleyne Alexander, and
she's phenomenal too.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
See. I don't know who that is because I don't
watch new ones. I only watch the old ones.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
The older man.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Do not disrespect Keith Morrison, the guy my hall pass
really yeah, I love him.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Shannon Murphy or Shannon.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Something about his boy Oh and he writs Chuck Taylor's jeans.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
I need to watch more than my God.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
He's always pretty cool. Yeah. But all right, So here's
what I wanted to do. This is why I bring
this up. And I'm not even getting into the topic
yet because then we'll see if this works today. If
it doesn't, we're going to bring it back. I want
to do true crime Tuesdays on the Mojo on the
morning show where listeners call us up and tell us
the crime that involved you or your family members, and

(03:32):
then you call us up and tell us about it,
and then we do a little investigation on what happened.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Kier and Drew can help us a ton with this
because she does She's actually been on Dateline a lot.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Oh yeah, she does all that too.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Hank was not my favorite episode.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Of Yeah, Hank Winchester was on their ton.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Hank Winchester when they did the Bob Bob a Sarah. Yeah,
the Bob the guy that was in gross Point that
killed his wife and he was into whips and chains
and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
So I don't have anything that pertains to my family
in particular. But when I was like ten, my neighbor
who I rode the bus with, murdered his parents. I know,
when one was sleeping and one was in the shower.
I just remember getting home off the bus stop and
there were helicopters all around because.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
They didn't catch him right away.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Wow, And my parents were like, just go, we just
have to go in the bathroom. We're just gonna chill
your Oh.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
I would have got in my car and left real quick.
How old was he He was.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
Like seventeen, Oh run it was crazy wow.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
But yeah, not my family.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
We had one kind of for us. There's a restaurant
that's by my house that had a true crime yesterday.
I don't know if you saw this on the news
last night. Day. Yeah, there is a guy the Prime
seven bar and restaurant in Commerce Township. A guy went
in there and killed the manager of the place and
then turned himself in. Deputies secured the scene and searched

(04:59):
for the shooter, a sixty five year old Farmings and
hillsman who went in and shot the guy on Sunday night.
So that's a true crime one at the Prime seventh, which,
by the way, they showed the picture of the thing
and it says, I love when they show the sign
of the thing. It's like free dinner shows and it's
like they show the sign on the outside. Like you

(05:22):
if you have a true crime happened at your business,
you got to hope that your marquee is actually.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
Exactly that house where this crime happened in No one
would buy it for like five years.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Really yup, all right, let's try this. Let's just see
what we got on this and then Lydia. Then if
this goes well, we'll bring it back. All right. I'm
Lester Holt and this is Dateline. Hey, it's True Crime
Tuesday on the Mojo in the Morning Show. We bring
this crime to maher What town are we talking about here?

(05:55):
Hold on saying somebody stole your phone. You can't hear
you speaking to the regular part of the phone.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
I was saying that.

Speaker 6 (06:04):
Uh, there's this app called Soda Scale and it talks
about all kinds of murder mysteries and most of them
are in Michigan here in Detroity.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, Shannon unsortunately. So, ma Herd, do you have any
crime that happened in your neighborhood that you would know about.

Speaker 7 (06:21):
I'm not gonna come in about that.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Wait a second. Have you committed some of these crimes
and we should know you?

Speaker 6 (06:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:28):
I played you? Yeah you Okay. I won't turn you in,
but I'd like the exclusive interview maybe maybe one day.
All right, ma her initial, Am, True Crime Tuesday here
on the Mojo in the Morning Show. Your voice this,
guys am, I got to pick you up. Hold on,
am are you there?

Speaker 8 (06:49):
I am?

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Hi? True Crime Tuesday. What's your story?

Speaker 8 (06:54):
We met a gentleman. He seemed okay. He moved in
with us, place to say, he ended up acting like
a handyman, tied a man up and killed him, and
we had to testify in everything.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
What why is it always the handyman. It's always the
guy that you bring in that can do anything around
the house, and then they end up murdering you.

Speaker 8 (07:19):
Yeah, he takes the poor man in the face and
killed him, had him tied up in a chair.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Oh my god, did you at any point think before
you found out that this guy murdered, that this guy
was a nice guy, or did you have suspicions that
this was a potential.

Speaker 8 (07:33):
He was like the boy next door. He was a
nice child and if he might sell on hard time.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Shannon and I and Anna and keV and au Lydia
and you know Bionca actually on Bianca, we all seem
like the boy next doors. But one of us is
a murderer. I'm telling you, one of us is gonna
enup doing it. He already knows.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Anyone like Ted Bundy.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, I'm not a part of this. You can't trust
the clean cut people at all. That's amazing. It's always
that it is always the handyman, or it's whoever you
bring into your home that's unusual that you shouldn't bring
in uh Jesse True Crime Tuesday. What happened?

Speaker 6 (08:11):
My fourth grade teacher stabbed her husband a bunch of times.

Speaker 7 (08:17):
I think it was.

Speaker 6 (08:17):
Either thirty eight or forty eight times.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Oh my god.

Speaker 6 (08:22):
Her name was missus Steinen.

Speaker 8 (08:24):
Yeah, okay, and Chancy Seaman.

Speaker 6 (08:27):
And I didn't find out about it until I was
in tenth grade.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
So is she serving time right now? Is she in
for life?

Speaker 6 (08:37):
She is? I believe she is.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Did you ever when she was your fourth grade teacher?
Was she ever somebody that you would have like not
wanted to piss off because she would get angry.

Speaker 6 (08:47):
No, And in fact, when I found out about it,
I was pretty upset because I never imagined her being
that type of person. I was like really shocked. So that's
what she did. Not that.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
I think someone is okay, but you never know what
drove her to do that.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
She was being abused by him.

Speaker 6 (09:11):
According to her, she was being abused by her husband.
Her husband was like like severely abusing her. But her
kids have come like out and said that that's not true,
that they never witnessed it. So, I mean, it's very
easy for a husband to hide something. If he wants
to hide something like.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
That, he can she she was a fourth grade teacher.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Wow, I'm looking at her story. I mean she bought
the hatchet at home.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
Demo of news.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
On her like, wow, do you know what it always is?

Speaker 5 (09:51):
Though?

Speaker 1 (09:51):
It always is that they backtrack and find out that
they bought the hatchet, the duct tape, the you know,
stuff to tie up and then that's how they get busted.
D initial d your voiceless, guys, is true crime too?
Hold on a second, it's your true crime Tuesday on
the Mojo on the boarding day. What's going on?

Speaker 8 (10:13):
So my children's grandfather was actually murdered by his life.
She got away with that kind of She's sitting in
a psych ward right now. Wow, and she gets poor
every couple of years.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
What year was this and she can come in twenty twenty, Well,
in twenty twenty, I understand it. We all wanted to
murder everybody. We were all dealing with the craziness of
the world. Is she so she never went to jail
or prison for this. She just had to go to
a psych ward. No, but insanity, that's one of those
ones where you should call Andrea Canning and have her
do a story on her because she's still alive. I

(10:49):
always like when the person is still alive and they're
willing to talk, like from prison, and then they have
the interview with them, and you don't realize until the end.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
They try to blur the background so that you don't
realize that they're the one who did it.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, and then they're in prison. Uh hold on a sec. Wow,
let's go to voice this guy's initial Jay, Jay, Are
you there, Jay?

Speaker 6 (11:13):
Hello?

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Another teacher who is a murderer. Yes, what kind of
what did this person teach?

Speaker 9 (11:20):
Okay, so he was my he was my tenth grade
pottery slash art teacher and he was a photographer for
the school.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Okay, hold on, stop for one second. Uh Huh did
he kill the person and bury them in pottery?

Speaker 5 (11:32):
No?

Speaker 2 (11:32):
He did not, But it's actually crazy.

Speaker 9 (11:34):
So it happened in Southfield, you can look it up.
So he was married at the daughter of the person
that was murdered. She always had suspicion about him, and
she's trying to contact her mom for days and come
to find out, she was talking to her mom on
a tank but he was texting from her dead mom's
phone ended up finding out he took hisself to her
job and killed himself in the parking lot.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Of her job.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Wow, this is crazy. Real quick. When you were taking pottery,
did you learn good pottery lessons from him?

Speaker 6 (12:03):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (12:04):
He actually did.

Speaker 9 (12:04):
He was actually a good pottery.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
But he was a murderer. Maybe he was a.

Speaker 9 (12:09):
Murderer, but he was creepy. But listen, he was creepy
back in school though he would period.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
There's all these signs. Yeah, it's wild. I didn't realize
how many teachers have been murderers. You know, do you
ever feel responsible for this because you probably drove him crazy?
I got to hear you. Do you ever feel responsible
for this because you probably drove him crazy when he
was in school?

Speaker 9 (12:33):
Actually we did, he did, but I didn't feel responsible.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
He was like that.

Speaker 7 (12:36):
But listen real quick before I go.

Speaker 9 (12:38):
If you type in google Greg McIntosh, Southfield, Michigan murder,
you can see the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
It's crazy I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Wow, that's crazy. All right, we're looking at I think
this true crime Tuesday thing. We get some good stuff
out of this deal.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Hold on my mom's We love it until we have
to report the police.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
I know, maybe this will actually help us catch criminals.
I like this autumn. What's up, hey guys.

Speaker 7 (13:07):
So you guys were talking about the Prime seven murder
that happened.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah on Sunday.

Speaker 7 (13:13):
Actually, yeah, so I knew Franco. I obviously you guys
know that I door dashed a lot. So I went
there a lot to pick up door dashes.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
And I had gone.

Speaker 7 (13:24):
There, pulled up probably about a minute after the murder
had left.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Oh and when I pulled up, one of the cooks.

Speaker 7 (13:33):
Was doing CPR on Franco.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Oh my god. Wait, so you pulled up before the
cops and the ambulance and all that stuff show up.

Speaker 7 (13:40):
I pulled up before the everybody got there. Yeah, And
I like hadn't even known what was going on, and
cops just started swarming in. So I was like, oh, man,
did you walk into like a bar fight or something.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Do you ever think to yourself, if you didn't hit
a light on Haggarty Road or on M five, that
you probably would have happened upon this thing.

Speaker 6 (14:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (14:01):
If I hadn't have dropped off a door dash right
before that, I probably would have been there as it
was happening.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Oh my god, I think about that sometimes.

Speaker 7 (14:09):
It's like to see that the Franco is just crazy
because he was such a nice guy.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Well, and it sounds to me like this guy, you know,
this guy pretty much owned up to it. He had
kind of an issue I guess with him, huh or something.
He's in prison right now or in jail right now.

Speaker 7 (14:25):
There's a lot of rumors flying around, but nobody really
knows why he did it. Yeah, it'll come out eventually.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Well, if Dateline comes to do the interviewer, are you
going to be interviewed by them?

Speaker 7 (14:38):
I think I'll leave that to the people who were
there when it happened.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
No, no, no, you got to be the person you
got to be. And then we talked to Autumn, the
door dash driver first on the scene. Yeah, she was
there on the scene when this all happened. And the
Autumn you sit there and give a little backstory on
Franco and how great he was when you picked up.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Back it just he should produce the show, Mojo.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
I'm telling you, I watched these shows enough you can
kind of pretty much out what's going on. And then
Lester Holt jumps on says and when we come back
here next.

Speaker 6 (15:04):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Well, you think that that's all coming up next, the
true story of what happened at Prime seven? You know
they always wait a major twist exactly. I can't believe
that you think that anybody on that show is even
close to Keith Moore.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
No, I don't.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Keith is the best. Josh would say, Andrea would say
that Keith is the best. Yeah, he is the best.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
He is. If he leaves, that show is screwed.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Is he the one who started it?

Speaker 2 (15:35):
No? I think the original was Dennis Murphy.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah. I think he was one of the first guys.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah,