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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to Each Sports Radio. April the seventh, twenty
twenty five, Monday in the Louisville area. Yes, I am
back from San Antonio to the rainy and soaked, soaked Louisville, Kentucky.
I hope everyone was safe over the weekend. Hope everyone
watched the games and stayed out of the rain and
out of the floods. And I know there are a

(00:22):
lot of people that have lost a lot of personal items.
Just as long as you're here to hear us today,
that's the only thing important. You can always replenish the
things that you lost, but you can't replenish your life.
So of course, still continue to be safe out there.
They're floodplains, flood areas, make sure you stay out of
those areas, do not drive into pooling water. Just to

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make sure that we continue to be safe as we
progress through this crazy season, through this crazy season. So anyway,
welcome back to EVE Sports Radio. Of course, it is
Final four week, and we've got a lot to talk
about Master's Week, a lot to talk about things that
George Williams knows nothing about. But first and foremost, we're
gonna bring Anthony Eaves to the show, Anthony. First, let

(01:07):
me get this out of the way. This is Eve
Sports Radio phone numbers five zero two, five seventy nine hundred.
That's five zero two five seven seventy nine hundred Sports
Talk seven ninety. We have got Rick behind the glass.
Shennon is on vacation, so you've got Rick manning the
studio and we'll get to the show. Andy, how are you.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
I'm doing great this morning, up and moving, got a
good day's rest yesterday on Sunday. That was that was
the biggest thing over this weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
We we mean you and I both.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Fell asie for the sun room, woke up, the food,
taking us. That's the way Sundays like to be.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Well, Rick, Rick, okay, yes, let's pretty. George Williams to
the show. George are you?

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Oh fantastic? Misteve. How you doing, sir?

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Oh, it's stall Okay, it's sir today, it's sirt today.
What's coming? What's what's gonna happen? You know, I don't
trust you at all? What's gonna happen? No?

Speaker 3 (02:31):
I did? Thank you? Went after the one of the
best final fours I've ever seen in my life. Jee
I thought that that was so fantastic. I mean I
would just overwhelmed this weekend. Overwhelm George. That's what going say.
That goes when we say Jay played to the end
of the clock. You see why now.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Exactly well, George, I didn't say anything to your fellow.
You know he's trying to sleep off a loss.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Kind of sleep, Jeorge.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
I can't hear you, miss Eve. I'm sorry, Anthony, Rick,
do you all hear I hear you break in and out?

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Something going on.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I think our connection might not be that good.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Here, gotcha?

Speaker 5 (03:29):
I beg it.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Bet you've got everybody, okay, I'm sorry. You always just okay, great,
Just keep doing the best you can. Rick. We go
through these things, the sleep, all that lost on Saturday night. Hey, Jeorge,

(03:51):
they got you. Anthony, Cougar's got your tongue. I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
If we're cutting in and out, I can very I can.
I can't hear you.

Speaker 6 (03:59):
But every other.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Word, okay, what happened to your duke blue Devil's head,
that's all what happened.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I hate I hate reliving this day. But we can't finish,
can't finish a close game.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
By up.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
But as much as fourteen and still lose a game.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Is it's it's hard to watch, even up by.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Six with less than a minute ago.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
It's just.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
It showed a little bit of immaturity by Duke. But
you know, I mean Houston had the overall, Houston deserved
to win that game. Now we had, we had won
that game majority of it, but you know, you gotta finish,
and we can't get the job done. We don't deserve
to be in the national Championships.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
It's pretty simple as that.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's that's pretty deep.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
You deserve to be there, George, Yes, sir, with a
high school player, two true freshmen. The only team in
the tournament that was a legitimate young players was due
the only team in the final.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
I'm gonna give you, well, well, Jerry, they showed it
in the end. I mean, but you know it saying
there's only been one freshman that's layed a college team
to championship. I think one freshman, if I'm not mistake it,
I know it's not more than two or three point
guard the ever league team to championship. Jerry, that's just
a point. And I just thought, you know, that was

(05:28):
one of the Duke's problems and immaturity I thought would
be a problem down the end. I thought that a
ventering club had more maturity, and they stayed to the
course and they won in the end.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yes, and that's the only reason I didn't pick Douke.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
What, Jerry, this is another This is another reason I've
been telling you about Houston for the last three years.
Houston been playing this type basketball for the last three
or four years in the conference. Prepared them and it
wasn't a Big twelve, you know what I mean. So
I think that they would do this win, Jerry. They
had been ready knocking on the door at fel four years.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
But George, we hadn't spoken, and we haven't since I've
been gone. But Great Point twenty twenty one Kelvin Samson
was twenty eight wins Final four, twenty two, thirty two
wins Elite eight, twenty twenty three, thirty three wins Sweet sixteen,
twenty twenty four, thirty two wins Sweet sixteen, twenty twenty five,

(06:22):
thirty four wins Final four. Again, George, HEAs and correct,
this isn't new. They've been winning. Houston has been winning,
no question about it.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
No, Dan, I've been talking about that conference.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
George.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, but you know, I've been talking at that conference
for about the last free or four years when they
were getting overlooked. That was a tough conference they came
out of, you know. I mean a lot of people
don't want to say the AC was tough, but when
they had Memphis and Houston them up ear, that was
a very valid conference. And they got good games every day,
came in and game out. And Jory, this is something
else we said about the Duke game. Duke nod Louisville

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got challenged all year long in that conference, never had
to play close games and never had to come back
from games except the Louisville game I remember came back
and don't George, at the end of the season. Yes,
and then week we've been saying for all those people
who wanted to keep it out there now and you with.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Him, but.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Not the final four losing around it.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
You know, George, any Anthony, you get to the final four,
you have accomplished something. Don't. Don't anybody. I've been on both.

Speaker 6 (07:33):
Ends and his stick.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
That's why I tell people that I won one George,
and I lost in the final four. And accomplishments period.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Jerry according to according to your son last week. Oh
no it ain't. He said you never win it out
and said you're weak. You know what I mean that
way he was telling us. Remember he said, getting in
the foundations you means nothing.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
No, both in and a buzzer beater. We're gonna talk
about that later. But no, guys, the tournament and the
women's which we're gonna get into that. It was just
a magnificence. So here's what we're gonna do. First. We're
already at seven thirteen, so Anthony, let's start with the
national news. We've got a lot of things.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
You still hear me there, Anthony, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Can tell now we hear you. Yes, something is raw
and he maybe you have to just change locations. But
do the best you can, GEORGI. Jack can tell George,
we've been doing this forever. We can. We can carry it.
Go ahead, Anthony, if you're with us, give us the
national Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
So I don't know how well you can hear me,
but I'm gett. We had a lot of games that
have been scoring on this weekend. The biggest one, obviously,
we had was a women's national championship game. Yukon didn't
bring home their twelfth national championship defeat in South Carolina
eighty two to fifty nine, which I said that game
was kind of gonna be a blowout. The reason why
I say it was kind of gonna be a blow
is because South Carolina was missing that factor, and that

(09:06):
it factor was that superstar player that they need on
the team to help him get out of swamps. Obviously,
Yukon has Page Becker Sarah Strong as these flud they
have their big three that has pretty much dominated college
basketball the entire year. They finished thirty seven and three
of the season. South Carolina still with a phenomenal season
at thirty five and four.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
I'm not knocking that away.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
But even if you go back and look at the stats,
their leading scorer in that game had ten points.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Which was Joyce Edwards.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
She shot four for twelve.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
That you're not gonna beat any teams your leading scorer
scores ten points unless everybody in an entire team is
scoring ten, which is what they have done majority of
the season. But in the games that they have lost,
which they played Yukon earlier in the season and Yukon
did the same thing to him. The Yukon beat them
last time byt like thirty at South Carolina. That's the
only reason why.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yukon Staley credit. She did not have a superstar and
she was still in the final. Yes, he didn't, he
didn't have a superstar. Credit.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
I gave him credit.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
I said, I'm giving South Carolina credit.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
They made it.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
No, not like I'm talking about people that are listening.
George and I. We're both Don Staley fans. No, we're
I wasn't talking to you Anny. Truly, Don Staley did
not have a superstar this year and put her team
in the finals again. George, She's won it three times.
It's all three times. I mean women's basketball is just
Gino twelve times. I mean, George wedding position great.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
You know what amazed me though, Jerry, it's how deep
both teams benches up, you know what I mean? U
Khin came out for at the end of the game
and sub late and players came in the game like
they've been playing all games. Jerry. I was looking at
him like, I don't remember this player?

Speaker 5 (10:37):
Who is this?

Speaker 3 (10:38):
You know what I mean? I mean that they have
They may not be superstar, but they I have very
very great talent on both teams.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
I am amazed both teams. No ques great accomplishment. But yes,
Paige Becker and that's Sarah Strong Good and Fuddge they're
a real deal. They're scoring machines, George, when they start
scoring the ball. They're the only number two seeds. And honestly,
I picked South Carolina to win it. But I it
wasn't even surprised that you kind of did what they

(11:06):
did second time. So what else we got going on
before we go to break? You're not gonna get it
all in.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
One second, I said. And not only was Fluodg's good.
Our deepense was fantastic. Got me, you know, she would
lack and people have them putting them in.

Speaker 7 (11:18):
A box.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Stealing.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
It's ripping them. Tor shot the layups. I saw the
little girls to good. There's some great lady basketball players.
Give us one more item, man before we get to
our first break.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Well, there's a lot to get into. So we might
just have to get the break because I got a
full list of sheet that might carry us through the
rest of the show. I'm gonna be completely honest.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
I will pay before break.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
I also did passed or passed Wayen Gretzky with eight
hundred ninety five goals. Okay, to become an all time
goal scorer in the NHL, that is something we'll get.
But everything else and yeah, it might be a runaway.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Train with them, rightbe there, you go, Let's take a
little time. Then it's seven seventeen. When we come back.
We are going to listen to coach Sampson speaking about
talking about George, all the close games they played, prepared
them for that game Saturday night, and Duke had not

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gone through that. It's the sports radio for seventy nine hundred, Anthony.
We've got to tell them who won the women's bracket,
who won the one twenty five, who won the seventy fifty,
and who won the twenty five? Inside after break, we'll
talk to you in a second. Welcome back to EVE

(12:37):
Sports Radio phone number five zero two five seven, one
seventy nine hundred. We got our first caller. But before
I get to my caller, we have to listen to
I want everyone to hear Kelvin Samson, coach at Houston,
speaking after the game and what he thought had transpired
throughout the game. Please play that for me.

Speaker 8 (12:57):
Rick Well came over and you said, heck of a
game eleven to one run. And yes, how would you
describe the resiliency of your team down the stretch there?

Speaker 9 (13:09):
You don't, Jude, no one ever loses it anything as
long as you don't quit. No, when you you quit,
I don't care. You've lost hard thing in our timeouts
that we've been here before. It's not like we're down twenty.
It's not like we were playing great. We felt like
if we could get it close enough to put some
game pressure on them, then.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Something good could happen. But all the credit, all the credit,
all the glory.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Goes to God, and all the credit.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Goes to these unbelievable young men. I get because I'm
so blessed. I get in the coach these kids.

Speaker 8 (13:41):
You talk about these kids, You've talked all season long
about the experience factor, a guy like this, Juwan, what
they did down the stretch. How lucky is it to
have these guys on your team in these moments.

Speaker 9 (13:55):
Well, it's lucky to have them, but it's not lucky
that they do what they do, because that's work.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
They trust their work, they trust their team. X. You know,
I hear what people say.

Speaker 9 (14:07):
You know that Dougs grat John Shire is is awesome,
But don't sleep on Houston.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Don't don't sleep on Houston. We weren't thirty four.

Speaker 9 (14:19):
And four playing in the Toy Poodle League. We were
nineteen and one in the Big Twelve. Planning the Big
Twelve helped us. Shout out to my Big twelve brother
coach Brett or.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Mark and all the great coaches in the Big twelve.

Speaker 8 (14:33):
Well you're headed to a national championship game on Monday.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
So thank you, thank you. That's good, Rick, And that
was the difference. He was insinuating George when they were
in the AAC that yes, people didn't think they played
in a strong enough conference, and we went through their
final four, Elite eight, Sweet sixteen, Sweet sixteen, But then
they go to the Big twelve and he talks about
it prepared them for that moment, saying that Duke, this

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year's ACC had not prepared them. It had not, it
had not prepared Louisville for I.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Thought, I think you made me dab at the n
C a A by not recognizing his conference. That's what
I thought when he said that record.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
I mean, well, well the a C hadn't done anything
other than Houston, George. Let's just be honest, nobody else's.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Goods.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
That was a good conference.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
I watched it.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
I'm not saying that, Jey. We're talking about the n
C Double A tournament. They have not progressed. Just factor matter.
Houston is the only one out of a C. That's
all I'm saying. But that's what they have good teams,
but they did.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Not right, Okay, I agree with you, Jed.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
But George, they didn't George, George, they didn't recognize AC.
They only put four teams in. Okay, Okay, here's a
good point, George. You know we always are killing. We're
killing the n C Double A. Checked his health. Bring
Rod to the Sharon walking the sports. But wait just
one second. Good morning. You can have a good morning,

(16:04):
but listen to because we're always talking about what happened.
The AAC has been a good conference, George, but they
have not progressed in the n C DOUA A ur
other than Houston, nobody else's for.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
That was what I was saying.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
That wasn't what were you saying, George. You just said
that conference.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Uh huh, go ahead, that's not what all I was saying.
What we were saying, he would he just took a
jab at the n c A A, but not you
putting them in the conference. He thought they were better
than what they were. I thought that was a slight
jab because he told me nothing conference and then went
back to the other conference where he lost more games
in and they took him to the tournament. I thought
that was a jab.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
In senuating that they said that he was in the
toy bow. His exact words were, he said, people said,
because I was when I was in the A A
C when he was winning, I can't even credit for
winning George, and he instead.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
He won more. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Jay, Yeah he will he get great in the AAC. Okay, no, no,
So I don't want you people to know. Kelvin Sampson
in every league he's been in, has progressed. In the
NCAA Tournament Final four and twenty one, I said that
Elite eight and twenty two, Sweet sixteen and twenty three,
which is a successful season you get to the second

(17:24):
weekend is a successful season. Twenty twenty fourth seek in
the final four again, he had Bookie in final fourth
two out of five years. So his teams have progressed.
I'm not knocking his teams at all his team's half.
He then said the Big twelve, which they went difference also,
which was a very tough conference this year, a lot

(17:46):
of very good teams that prepared them. So then he
was talking about the a SEC. I thought he was
slapping the acc George saying that people always duke this
duke that were to play this kind of game. So
could be right. But here's the deal, Ron Anthony. The
NET ranking that came out March the sixteenth twenty had

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Duke number one. During the final four successful year, there
was the final four, Houston number three, they're in the
final game, Florida number four, they're in the final game.
Tennessee number five. They played to go to the sixteen Alabama,
so did they. Texas Tech, who we foughta had beat Florida.
God Dog is the only team in the top twenty

(18:30):
that did not do what they were supposed to done.
Iowa State came out, Maryland, Michigan State, Arizona, Saint John's
comes out thirteen, early, Kentucky fifteen, end up fourteenth, and
they were playing in the sweet sixteen. So when we
talk about the net, the NET had out of fifteen's,
they had twelve correct, Go ahead, Royan, Welcome to sports radio.

Speaker 6 (18:54):
Okay, I hear I ever think you guys are saying.
And it's the national narrative too. You all follow the
national narrative. But I'm not gonna let everybody just smooth
this over. Okay. This is gonna go down regardless of
what you all say, regardless of how good anybody played.

(19:15):
This is gonna go down as one of the most
colossal choke jobs ever in a final four games. They
had a six point lead with forty seconds to go. Guys,
they couldn't make a free throw, they couldn't get the
ball and bound, they couldn't make a shot, they couldn't
guard that. I mean, it was total chaos. It was

(19:37):
an absolute melt down and choke job by Duke. Anybody
can try to say, oh, well, Houston did this, and
Houston did that. Houston was down fourteen points for ten
minutes ago, in a half minutes ago in this game,
and Duke just slowly melted down and then they got
in the last two minutes. It's the absolute number one

(19:58):
choke job that I've ever se seeing that a final
four game period.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
In the story, what do you think, what do you think, Anthony,
we spoke about it. We spoke about it this morning.
So Anthony, what do you think you and I spoke
about that this morning? What do you think I.

Speaker 6 (20:11):
Couldn't get the ball in bounds?

Speaker 10 (20:13):
I mean we did.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
I'm a Duke fan, but I'm not gonna sit here
and lie like we didn't choke the game because I
was pissed off too. It's it was kind of it
was hard.

Speaker 7 (20:22):
It was hard to watch.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
I'm gonna be honest.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
I was like screaming at the TV.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
I'm like, we can't get the ball in bounds, we
can't make free throws, we can't score, we can't get stopped.
I'm like, we literally just forgot how to play basketball
for like six minutes. Was it the worst show jobs
in a Farm four? With under a minute to go?

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Probably?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Now, if I and I say under a two to
three minutes span, Duke looked like one of the worst
teams in college basketball, and we did. Is it one
of the worst Final Four choke jobs?

Speaker 3 (20:48):
It's up there.

Speaker 7 (20:48):
I won't lie. Auburn kind of.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Did the same thing.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
They just choked theirs earlier off in the game, Auburn
was up eight going at halftime. Auburn got outscored forty
one to twenty seven in the second half and lost
by six. The thing, dude took the game at the
end of the game. We're supposed to.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Steel the deal.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Alberton got blown up by fourteen in the second half. Okay,
I got you, Okay, Duke and Duke and Duke get
I'm not valued for him. Duke did a similar thing
because Duke at one point, second.

Speaker 7 (21:18):
Four points.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Duke scored one field.

Speaker 6 (21:24):
In the last ten and a half minutes of regulation time,
one one field goal against.

Speaker 10 (21:32):
I will say that I guess the number one defensive
team in the country, Well, they had no get the.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
All up, the.

Speaker 6 (21:42):
Whole over. I know we're not worried about Oliver hold up,
Ali got over coach that they're undisciplined too, and just
like their coaches when the stops on.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
The line, go ahead, George, yes, yes, Hello.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, George. Can't you hear me? Go ahead?

Speaker 3 (22:08):
George here? You now here?

Speaker 1 (22:10):
You know, okay, pro George. If you hear us talk
about do you think Duke choked? Oh?

Speaker 3 (22:18):
No doubt about it, No doubt about it. I mean,
you know, I mean to be a talented but not
not really, Jerry, because I always go with experience over you.
I think we tried to build up Duke more than
they really were. I think we put them on the
pedestal that they hadn't gained the recognition, you know what
I mean, because of a flak. They wanted to be
the number one overall bad choices. But they gave the

(22:38):
game away. And I give credit Houston the credit for
making them a choke. We will. I don't like that Worry,
but I think they took the game from him. I
thought that I thought they counnected cue.

Speaker 6 (22:51):
Did you guys witness down trying to get the ball
and bounds against co Press? Did you even see the
sets they were trying to run there to get the
I did.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
But I'm gonna be okay, I'm gonna be honest. And
it was but before mm hm, he'll quick, kid quick,
I'm gonna talk.

Speaker 6 (23:10):
They got the ball in the found the Tyres Proctor
sixty five pre toe shooter.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
He's coming up to court.

Speaker 6 (23:16):
If you look to his left, you see h Cooper playing.

Speaker 7 (23:20):
He would not give him the ball.

Speaker 6 (23:21):
He decided, I'm gonna hold on the ball. I'm gonna
get fould I'm gonna be the hero. No, Son, you're
wearing the goat horns this morning.

Speaker 7 (23:28):
Okay, because you've made it.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Now here's the deal, guys. As for when you look
at it, and we were talking about who was going
to win, where they were going to be last week
when Anthony was giving me a hard time the Duke
scores too much, I said, that's correct, and it is.
But I always say experience should beat youth. I've said
that forever and it's played out. Guys. Duke has not
won one forever. Kentucky playing all young kid kids had

(23:52):
not won one forever. It's just a fact they don't
win them. They don't. So it's not just Duke. It
doesn't win championships giry often. So when you know that,
and we did when we came to our selecting of
the teams, that's the only reason I picked Houston. Not
because Houston can score. They cannot. The week before, Houston
couldn't get the ball in bounds against Tennessee. We said
the exact same thing about Houston. I said, Kelvin Sampson

(24:15):
is one of the greatest defensive coaches in the world.
He couldn't get the ball in bounds against Tennessee. Guys,
nobody's been able to get the ball in bounds out
of when people are pressing up the last the exact
same work for said exact same work. All I want
to know is didn't we say the exact same thing
about Houston the Tennessee game when they almost gave it

(24:36):
away they couldn't get the ball in bounds.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
But you answered your own question Houston, because they were veterans,
they did find a way to calm down and make
the plays that they needed to execute late in the game. Experience,
I think that what you say.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
That all this experience stuff if Houston, Florida, what we're
gonna say about experience.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Here all the thing? Okay we're not.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
I'm we're saying, oh here, if you say about.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Experienced, maybe the best team and could be there are
number one seed guys. I got an upset. Come on, now,
come on now.

Speaker 6 (25:20):
It was It wasn't so much how Greg Houston played.
It was how bad Guke played down the stretch. Again,
but we had forty rock. Houston had forty five points
with a little over ten minutes going to the game.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
They've done that all years though, that's not new though, Ron, Ron,
that's not new for Houston.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Though.

Speaker 6 (25:37):
Well, well, I'll come back tomorrow and if they beat Florida,
I'll say, Okay, Joey, you was probably right.

Speaker 7 (25:43):
But if they don't, then.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
We're gonna have a different conversation. Okay, because.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Why would we n Okay, go ahead, George, George too.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
And then Andy, when you were a player, don't you
think you played a lot better when you were a
senior than you did as a freshman. And Ryan, you
been in sports, you know that a veging team because
of the experience and being in tight situation, in the
situation you put them in, makes it a better game.
It's not that we're saying the experience is the over
thing in life, but we know when you've experienced things,
it makes you better the second time around.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
So, so who different cut off we're talking about, we're.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Talking about you are talking about Chokey, You're talking about
really giving freshman.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Was it a freshman that choked?

Speaker 6 (26:27):
It was Tyree's proctor that stepped up there, missed the
front of one and one.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Right, they didn't score but one field run. They scored
one field going nine minutes. He didn't shoot all the
balls come on, now, come on, run.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Everything to the freshman, Jery. They're not all freshmen, three
of them, three of us through James that turned the
ball a freshman. That's a hey, did you watch them?
Jared's trying to get the ball and bound. It looks
like an optimist team.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
There was a joke, how about right, I said the.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Exact same Houston. I'm not telling you're not wrong.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Ry.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
I said the exact same thing last week about Houston
that almost gave it away to Tennessee.

Speaker 6 (27:12):
Well, I'm just gonna say it this way, and I'm
not trying to take nothing west from Houston. It wasn't
great played by Houston and won that game. It was
horrible played by Duke that lost that game. You can
go back and look at it the last seven eight
minutes of the game. It's it's plaining to see. It's
right here in front of your face. It wasn't great
execution on the part of Houston. It was poor execution

(27:32):
on the part of Duke that lost that basketball games.
It's plenty and simple. It's not hard execution.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
His execution, isn't it. If you execute, you had gay
execution me. If you don't execution, bad execution right, that's
the way it goes.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
So so when we turned the ball over, it up
sixty seven, sixty four the kid and they get a
tip dunk, that execution, that's look, that ain't.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
The guy went to the right, right, dude, that tip dark,
he went to the spot. He followed that ball to
the basket, hit and did what he did when the
ball came out the basket, he dunked it in.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
How many tip dunks have you seen in that type
of scenario in the last ten final fours, you watch
they tipped it in down three on the tip dunk,
and and go down there and we missed the front
uber one and one.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
I'm gonna Houston.

Speaker 7 (28:16):
That's luck.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
That's luck.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
That's another answer. When Houston lost their first championship that
I saw how many times Ryan and Jared did you
see a guy same tip dunk following the ball and
don't follow in the basket?

Speaker 7 (28:31):
Well and years ago George.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Talking to them the championship got them a win.

Speaker 6 (28:39):
When they missed the three pointer. When Houston missed the
three pointers that would have tied the game there towards
the end, they got a weak side redown because somebody
didn't box out, go back and look at it. It's
another break.

Speaker 7 (28:52):
That's the game.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
But that's not that's not execution. They're not we're not
drawing that up yet. Miss the three and then tip
duncan on them on the opposite side. That's not execute.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
You didn't block out. That's not execute your job.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
That's just called that's on the right place at the
right time.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
That's called luck.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Sometimes he could have been up there and you got
to have it he got.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Did Duke choke the game?

Speaker 7 (29:16):
Duke choke the game?

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yes, But Houston got a lot of things to go
the one hundred percent the right way, and some of
it was luck.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
A lot of it was lucky.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Talk to him, Jerry about luck. Hen love Jerry. He
might have cut in and out on us. Ron, you know, man,
Jerry away from the show.

Speaker 7 (29:35):
Look well, I might be y George. You might be
under the water somewhere.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
He is in the basement.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Okay, Yeah, it's seven thirty eight. He's sports radio. We're
gonna go ahead and take our next break. The phone
numbers five oh two, five, seven, one seventy. Appreciate your
runn for calling in.

Speaker 7 (29:57):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Light. Welcome back to Eve Sports Radio, Sorry for my difficulties.
Everyone else stayed on the line, which is great. You
all just lost me. We've got the phone lines blinking
like the Atlanta Airport. It just takes one great call,
great call, Rodnie, get us going. I'm trying to tell you,
but before I got.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Caught on the show, just I know.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
George, George, here's the deal, Georgie and Anthony, here's the deal.
I love it. I did not pick Duke. I expect
the youth to do what it does, what it's done.
Now for the if you say the last twenty we've
had super teams at Duke and Kentucky, super freshman that
I've loved. Malik Monks, great players Duke, same way Zion

(30:42):
Williamson's it doesn't win. I've said that for forever. It
didn't surprise me how they lost. I didn't expect them
to win. I just didn't. That's all. That's all I'm
saying to people. We can call it a choke job.
All I'm saying when you get to the final four,
I'm not calling it a job. That's all I say.
Tell them there are a lot of teams they would
love to have been there. Huh. Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
I've been waiting to say this for about two or
three years. You said, all tangent, Jerry, you got to
give me credit for this. Remember I've been talking about
Houston last three years.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Oh you have, George, I gave you you have nothing yet.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
But no, see again, they're anthey when you only wait
if you win it, if you're any good, then everybody's
bad but one team. That's why I told you all.
I've had both ends. I've had where I've won it
and I've had where I've lost it. I was successful
in both. Yes, you want to win, you get.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Your championship, you're supposed to win, and I go there
for a participation more with everybody's talking about Duke because
we did lost because we lost.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Because okay, let's get let's I got college waiting. Let's
get O j on, O Jay, welcome to the show.
How are you? Thank you? Jerry?

Speaker 11 (31:50):
This is O Jay in Miami. I'm a Florida fan,
but I picked Houston, okay, because I always picked the
teams that got s in the n C Double A
Senior point guard senior shooting guard.

Speaker 7 (32:06):
Agree with experience works.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
When you get to the n C Double A as
far as execution, pressure will overcome execution. You put enough
pressure on someone, they can't execute. They get nervous, they
begin to fear. And we know what happens when you
start fearing when you're playing ball.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
That's the deal.

Speaker 11 (32:27):
Stop right there first, waiting for my twenty five dollars check.

Speaker 5 (32:34):
When you should win?

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Okay, hold up, hold up, hold up. First thing, though, George,
I want you to know, yes, OJ has never called
my shows this first time, but this is my cousin.
I was telling you all about that with the Tuskey
gearman that flew every airplane that they ever made, that
flew Jesse Jackson around before he retired. Who was in
the navy for how many years? How mean eight years
did you do? Twenty? How many much did you do?

(32:57):
Oja twenty? So thank you for your sir, his brother.
I want people to know I've spoke about you. I'm
so glad you've called in and everything you've done for
this country without a doubt.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Okay, thank you dollars ago.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Forget the twenties stuff.

Speaker 11 (33:18):
I wouldn't be but Rick Patino choked on me.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
He wanted to say, John, Now here's the second thing.
All the great Louisville teams that pressed. I love pressing,
all the great Kentucky teams. George, you love pressing, Derrick Anderson,
Rick Patino said was his best defender ever pressing. I
don't know why people don't press guys. It doesn't surprise me.
The teams fold when you apply pressure. I don't know

(33:43):
why teams don't. That's about I don't know why they don't.
George doesn't surprise me. Hey, I mean Kentucky. Let's be honest.
Those Kentucky teams are the nineties. The Louisville teams of
the eighties. Let's just be honest you all. Nobody wanted
to play the team. They knew people they were gonna
be gotten after just the facts. They knew pressure was

(34:05):
gonna be applied for forty frigging minutes. Nobody wanted to
play Louisville in the eighties or Kentucky in the night.
To be honest, now, when Ricketino had a rolling come on,
they didn't want to play them because they knew that
that pressure was gonna with Houston doesn't do it in
a full court set. I would, but still, oh, Jay,
finish up the call for I get to my next caller, brother,

(34:27):
But I appreciate your service.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
So Jack, I just want to thank you for taking
my call. I had to wake up early this morning
to get the call. Uh normally wake up to eight
thirty East Coast cas.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah, you live too well down there in Miami. You
live too well. That's all you and Pat lived too.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
Will Yeah, I gotta go work on my pool this morning.
It's gonna be eighty eighty threes.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
See see George, that's why I don't He didn't get
his twenty five dollars, George, he doesn't get it. Oh Jay,
they care love your brother, drop love you see.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
You all right, Okay, have a great one.

Speaker 10 (35:02):
I got it, but I haven't before we get our
next caller. I got a question for both money. I
need to know something because we we we love to
throw out experience of all these teams saying Florida's got experience,
got experience, so they do for last year.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
What was Florida's record last year?

Speaker 1 (35:21):
No, they lost early in the in the NCAA term.
They got in lost early forty four.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
And twelve eleven and seven the sec they finished.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
That's a that's a okay, okay, are you saying that's
about you.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Gotta let me finish my point then, okay, okay, before
you jumped the gun, we're talking about experience. Half the
roster wasn't even on the team last year, and half
the team that transferred, and none of them had played
farther than the round of sixty two, round of thirty two.
So what are we talking about experience?

Speaker 1 (35:45):
From that most teams No, no, no, no, no, Andy,
we're talking about maturity. Most kids haven't played in.

Speaker 7 (35:53):
Experienced.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Y'all say experience all the time.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Let me explain to you. Let me explain to you
what experience is. Anthony experiences that you're stronger. You're stronger
at twenty two than you are at eighteen. You're stronger
mentally at twenty two. Anthony, teams go to final fours.
If you're not on a team that's good enough, I
don't care how good you are. You're not going to

(36:17):
an NCAA tournament if you're on a team that's not
good at her Anthony and mature and listen to me again.
I told you that Dukes Zion Williamson teams Kentucky's great team.
I'm not guys. People kill John Caliperry not me. He's
had great teams thirty one and whatever's almost one. Anthony

(36:40):
Youth has a hard time winning the NCAA tournament. No, No,
Duke has three. Duke has a high school kid who reclassified.
And Cooper Flagg, who is a bad man. You were
mad at him this morning saying he missed four game winners.
I don't care. Cooper flags up at he did, but
he's a bad man. He is a bad man. I'll

(37:03):
take him any day.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
With maturity and is he grows is sixteen two thirty.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
My walk is seven to two forty.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
That has nothing to do with maturity. They're grown men.
I know that they're eighteen years old. We want to
say they're not that left the right they're playing in
the final four. At that point you have to throw
it out the window. Many Cooper, what did you say
about What did you say about.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Playing against grown men?

Speaker 6 (37:25):
I can't give it to you.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
You didn't say that, all right, I'm here's.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
What I said. I said, Jerry Eves, hold up by
hold a bandy, hold up, Benny. I said Jerry Eves
was better at twenty five when I got cut in
the NBA. Like some of these players they're playing against
that I was when I won in at twenty. You're
not changing that. It's the same player. That's what I've
said to you. If I played myself at twenty four

(37:50):
to twenty five when against the twenty year old Jerry,
the twenty four to twenty five is gonna win, Anthony, period,
same player. I said.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
It is not the same for one.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
You know that for a fact.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Physicality is the same body thousand physique aren't all the
same anymore either. When you were coming up, y'all weren't
having seven graders going through the legs on fast bring.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Okay, let me get my next call.

Speaker 6 (38:10):
And I hear you.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
But Anthony All, I'm telling you, maturity matters, period. That's
why I knocked Auburn. Auburn's older than seven NBA teams.
I'm not a Bruce Pearl fan. And they didn't win it.
I didn't say there were jokers, but they didn't win it.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
Anthony, experience an No, Anthony.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
No, here's the difference again. You must throw in And
Ryan said it. Y'all didn't hear it because we were
just having a good time arguing. Disciplined Houston is more
disciplined and has been more disciplined the last five years
than Duke's ever been. That was what Samson was talking about.
You must throw in the factor of the discipline, and

(38:49):
an older player is easier to be more disciplined. They've
worked harder and longer. Next call, who do we have up?
Who have up? Because we're just running the last break
at the end? Great lay George Rod this going boy?
Who's that? Next color? Blair? Oh blending, Welcome to the
show man.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Bland?

Speaker 7 (39:09):
Good morning, Good morning gentlemen. George. Everybody's refreshing to hear you. George.
I was wondering if you had any information on what
slammer a cs N so I can send him something.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Why why did you not a C lea A cello free,
A C free.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
I got, George, got buy money going up. I don't
know to send the New York, New Jersey, Canada. I
don't know where he's at. As soon as I'm finding
I'm sending money. Bland.

Speaker 7 (39:44):
Hey, hey, George, you know you know a C stands
are always convicted, don't you.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Oh my god, So it's going I hope all right,
thank you? Thanks, Oh my goodness. So, George, what do
you think about the reason I don't, so tell add
in our argument. What do you think, George, where do
you think?

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Well, you know, you've been in situations. You know, I
know an right now, he's he's in car sales, and
he's got people out there with experience that can show
and teach him things only because they've been there and
done it, not because they're better car salesman in the head.
And as he's played ball, he knows he was better
than a lot of the freshmen that came in. You're
just talking about being in situations, having experienced things that

(40:29):
other people have not experience. And that's what mature it is,
you know what I mean. You have to go through
something to know something. You can say you know it
before you've been there, but you don't. But you see
a lot of players say it's easier to win the
second time around than the first time around, you know,
And in sports it comes a lot of it. You know,
if you got tient team and you get some luck
on your way, you're good. But if you played that

(40:49):
and you've been in those situations before, you handle it
differently than teams that never been there before.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Just a well life, Yeah, I will throw.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
It was both ways, though, we're saying that now because
there's a munch of thirty year olds play in college
basketball and they're starting center. Anthony Davis was eighteen years old.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
What were we saying, No running, you're gonna run, You're
gonna hold up second and George, I'm not hold up,
hold up Rick. We're gonna run the last one and
the final one together. So how long do we have
I'm gonna let Anthony and George go, but I want
you to run the last two together. I don't want
to go to break. How long do we have about
a minute and a half before we have to go
off the show? Calculating, let me know, go ahead Atney

(41:33):
and George. George keep Anthony to give fifteen second blips
so George can come back with fifty seconds. Go ahead Atney.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
No, I would have said, I get that.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
Some things it does.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
It plays experience for Role Wars. Experience does overtake the
immaturity factor of young guys, even in sports, even when
it comes to work outside of them. But I'm saying
it's not like that. In imicationnarios, we're saying that George, George, Yeah,
we just won y'all love, y'all love Death, I love Duke,
y'all love Houston, and Houston is an old maturre team
has had the same team for the last four years.
But when we say all the young teams have won,

(42:03):
like Kentucky when they won with three starting freshmans in
twenty twelve, nobody said anything about immaturity or experience.

Speaker 7 (42:09):
Done it basketball?

Speaker 1 (42:11):
No, they haven't done it since then though, and then
Duke has not either. It's not a slap. It's not
a slap in Kentucky, nor a slap.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
With freshman were we went with the little Oprah for
as a starting freshman center.

Speaker 7 (42:21):
So what are you saying?

Speaker 3 (42:22):
We've done it? But was that?

Speaker 1 (42:24):
What year was that that?

Speaker 2 (42:27):
And Yukon did it with three starting with the farm.
Castle was a starting point guard on the Yukon was
Excuse me, I don't disagree with the team was a Freshmancastle.

Speaker 11 (42:38):
Are you're saying about the.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Experience now only starting freshman?

Speaker 3 (42:40):
Go ahead, and they can I say you this. Almost
ninety nine percent of our coaches say they'd rather have
a upper class point guard leading them into the championship
game to have a freshman. You can go back and
look at how many freshmen has ever won. I don't
care what here, you look at, what time you look at,
Go look at that and then come back. Can talk
about leadership.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
We can pull the one because there's ones that win,
don't stay and how.

Speaker 7 (43:06):
Long do I have basketball?

Speaker 1 (43:08):
So you gotta go, gentlemen Sports Radio, we're out.
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