2025-06-06- KSR - Hour 1

Live from the City of Somerset.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Welcome everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio Friday Wow June sixth, line, Summerset, Kentucky.
And look at this crowd here at the Virginia Theater
in downtown Summerset. Look out, that's awesome. This is only

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only in the state of Kentucky, only in the state
of Kentucky, and only with KSR could you get that
kind of crowd in June. It's not even close to
a sports event. This is in June in Somerset at
the Virginia Theater. Give your guys a big round of
applause just for what this crowd is this morning. This
is one of the best ones we've ever had in Summerset.

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And we are here at the Virginia Theater in downtown.
This is a theater that opened in nineteen twenty two,
Ryan Lemon, nineteen twenty two. This has existed since then.
There was an ice storm. They redid it just a
few years ago. And what a cool facility in a
small town in Kentucky. One of the cooler ones I've
been to.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
We talked about it. You know, everybody, every community's got
the movie theater and you walk in and you just
feel as soon as you walk in something really special.
And what they've done with this, they have elevated day
Jah Lyless a manager here. She's done a fantastic job modernizer.
They've got lights, sound system, big concert venue now as well.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
So it's one of the newest entertainment venues in the state.
That's also one of the oldest. This used to be
a movie theater and they now have plays. They had
the concert here, the six oh six strong tornado relief
benefit just last week, which was very which had Sunday
what Nicholas Jamison Sunday Best was here and Shannon what

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I which Middlesbrough and had a.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Place like this, Yeah, me too.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
I mean, this is like something you might find in
a big city in Kentucky. You know, it kind of
reminds me of the Mercury Ballroom a little bit. Yeah, yeah,
and uh, you know, I'm looking forward to just playing
here later on tonight. We've never played a theater before
like that.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
So you're playing here tonight, right. It was with Alice
Blue Gawns, So this will be like full of of
all of your fans. Here are you looking forward to?

Speaker 4 (02:35):
I'm really excited about it.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
You never played a theater, No, we played amphitheaters, but
never anything quite like this. The cool thing about this
Benue I was saying earlier, you know you got the
renovated part, but then they also left you know, some
of the old part too, so you get a little
bit of the history with this building.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I like it. That is a that's a good combination. Well,
Ryan got up this morning, came down here to Somerset.
I was thinking about the towns we've done the most
remotes in. If SOMEMR sets outside of Lexton Louisville, if
it's not first, it's in the top three. I would think.
Over the years, I knew Bob and Jamestown would be
here and there. He is. My mom would say, Hey,

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be nice to Bob while you're there, so I'll do
my best Bob before I before I leave.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
He hasn't taken a phone call yet.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
If you take a phone call, you're out. I'm kicking
you out if you take a phone call. Last night,
I was at cas bar. You know, we've started the
renovation process. We were down there rolling up our sleeves
some work. Yeah, we're not ready to have you yet.
We need to have a we need to have a
direction before we let you watch everything. But it was
very night. We got some big, big changes coming, and

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we also realized we're gonna use some of our listeners
for part of it. We're gonna ask for volunteers, for
people to do things. I'm not gonna say what it
is yet, but so we were doing that all last night.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
I'm excited about it. Really, We're gonna come back bigger
and better than ever, just in time for football season
when everybody.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Cross your fingers shit. And we know that some of
the things may take a little more work, as they
probably know here than we thought, but we'll make it happen.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
You mentioned Somerset. We've been to Gaddies a lot all
the Don Franklin's down here. But this is the biggest
crowd I think we've ever had Somerset.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, no, no doubt. So we appreciate it. All right,
So let's go over some some UK news to start
the day. Basketball team all here, but two people, uh
Mohammed Diabat and Yellovich are the only players not here.
They've already started workouts. They did like little welcome videos
for each player where the coaches were standing there with
them and they said, we're ready to go get number nine.

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My it was interesting watching them. The guys all Shannon
seem very nervous. I think, I think this is gonna
be a group that they're all a little nervous for.
I think even they realize how much our fan base
can be. If you watch the videos, there's some like.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Kind of like the first day of school vibes.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, you know, and like and you know, cause I
mean there if you play basketball at Pitt like Jay
and Lowe, you're used to nobody knows who you are, right,
even jaydan Quaintans at Arizona State. I mean they don't,
you know, they're games, Nobody really cares. This is gonna
be a different kind of thing. But I do like
the way the basketball team. If you go online, you

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get introduced to all of the guys over the last
few days.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
It is kind of cool. I'm really glad they're doing that.
We kind of get to know him a little bit
more as a person and get to recognize him a
little bit when the're around town. But we only heard
the guys last year a Mario and Lamant Butler talked
about they had no idea until they went that first
exhibition game. In this exhibition game, they had more people
there than the normal games that got during the regular
season last year.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Mario was complaining on the way down here this morning,
he wrote with me. He was complaining about Jayden Quaint's hair.
He's gonna He's gonna do all he can to try
to get his hair cut. He's got his hair like
almost over his eyes when he tries to play.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Maybe, oh way, you know, can take him to his barbering.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
No way, it's completely gone. But as I was looking
at them coming, I wanted to compare it to Mark's
story of the Harald Leader, who I think has done
a great job recently. He did the all uh the
all UK mit Order century team, so the best team
at Kentucky like for the last twenty five years, and

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he gave his starting lineup. So I want you all
right now, I'll start with you, mister history. Here. If
you were to do from two thousand to twenty twenty
five your UK all time starting lineup, let's see if
you get the same thing. I pretty much agree with
what Mark has, although I might quibble with one thing.

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Who would be in your starting lineup? And he doesn't
by position? So who would be your starting point guard?

Speaker 3 (06:34):
I think you would have to go just for what
he meant to the program, John Wall.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
I think that's pretty pretty clear, John Wall. You could
make a case for maybe Tyler Ulysz, maybe Brandon Night,
but I think it has to be John Wall. So
that's an easy one. I think the center's probably pretty easy.
Who you putting at center?

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Probably DeMarcus Anthony Davis.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
I mean, oh, Anthony Davis.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Did you just hear him?

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:57):
He hosts a University of Kentucky show. You just put
DeMarcus over Anthony Davis.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
I hadn't even thought Anthony No, no, no, no, no, right, he's
better overall than I am.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
How could you not? Anthony Davis is the first one.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
I'll gonna put in at the four spot.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Well, you're wrong. So he's at the center, all right now?
He has the two, the three, and the four. And
I think this some people would think these are controversial picks.
I'd be what do you think. I'm not gonna tell
you what he has first? Who is your two, three
and four?

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Keith Bogan's at the two, Tayshawn Prince at the three
and the four. I would probably try to throw Julius
Randall in there.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Julius Randall, Okay, not what about you? What would your two? Three? And?

Speaker 5 (07:38):
I like, actually what he says there, Julius Randall at
the four. Tayshawn Prince has got to be in there.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, Keith Bogan is the leading scoring guard in UK history.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
He is, Yeah, you're gonna put Keith in there.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
I'm a Jody Meeks.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
That's a good one. That's a good one. All right.
Well here's what here's what marks Okay, he has the
two guard Keith Bogans. I think a lot of people
might be surprised to have Keith Bogans at the two.
I'm with you, highest scoring guard in UK history. People
in this room a lot of you know, the two
thousand and three team, in my opinion, the most underrated
team in UK history. When that team was rolling, nobody

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better and the only reason they lost is because Keith Bogans.
If Keith Bogans doesn't get hurt, they win it. Tayshawn
Prince is at the small forward for him, and then
they put the four. I think he's cheating a little
bit with this one, Shannon, because I don't think this
guy's a true four. But he puts Oscar Sheebwey and
power forward.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
You think that's cheating.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
I don't think you could play Oscar and Anthony Davis together.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Great, I mean, the greatest rebounder of our time, but
I don't think he belongs on the list.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
What do you think if nothing else, I would flip him.
May play Oscar at the five and the nanthy is
at the four if you're gonna play those two guys.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Now, the controversial picks he picks is the best sixth
man Darius Miller. Now, if you're just talking about men
as sixth man, like did they play as the sixth
man on their team? I could be convinced that to
put Darius Miller there But if you didn't do that, Ryan,
I don't think you would have Darius Man. But he
has Darius Miller as the sixth man. I think that's

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a UK Homer pick, like a State of Kentucky Homer pick.
Would you do it?

Speaker 3 (09:19):
But if you're picking truly who if he was a
sixth man at Kentucky, he may be the best sixth
man of the past twenty five years.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
National championship team I think has a lot to do
with that too.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Probably any beam for me? Yeah, all right?

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Now here is his second team? All right? Who would
your second team point guard be? Tyler Ewis? Is his
second team point guard? You already mentioned your second team
shooting guard Joe Meeks. Yep, he's on there, all right?
Small forward, power forward, and center? This is I think
you'd get a lot of different answers on this. What's
your who's your small forward? Power forward? Center? Second team?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
I guess I'm picking Carl as my center.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Over DeMarcus who you had first team.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah, DeMarcus, you've already bumped.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
He's already bumped DeMarcus from first team to not on
the team.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, okay, boy, the four is what's so hard? I've
already said Julius Patrick Patterson. I may go with Patrick Patterson.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Would you you would take Julius Randall though, right?

Speaker 3 (10:15):
If you had him on my first team?

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Oh? So, then you're not gonna put Oscar she Way. No, okay,
you know what, Evenway was National player of the Year.
You're not gonna put the National player of the Year
on the team.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Okay, I got it. I gotta put him on.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
The team, all right? Uh what about you? Uh?

Speaker 4 (10:32):
As as the four four h Terrence Jones, he has
Chuck Hayes.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
You gonna scare you love Chuck Hayes. I'm surprised you
don't have him there.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
He was awesome. But if I'm gonna pick somebody better
that I gotta go with somebody better.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
What does that mean?

Speaker 3 (10:50):
I mean I love Chuck Hay's more than I love
these other guys. I gotta pick a better player.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Oh okay, Yeah, if I'm gonna pick somebody better, I
gotta put somebody better. All right. He has this center,
Willie cally Stein. Would you take Willie cally Stein over
DeMarcus Cousins in Carl Towns. No, No, I probably will
Cory Stein First Team All American? Those guys were not.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
Yeah, and maybe some of that's because of how great
Carl is in the NBA. You know, it's a little
bit of that recency bias just watching him play for
the Knicks. But I think I would still take Carl
Anthony Town's over Willie.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Willie's accolades, though, are better than anybody of the Cali
era just about.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
I think that's one of the things about like, when
you're trying to figure out Willie and Oscar, you want
to put DeMarcus in Carl Town's ahead of him, but
Willy and Oscar have much better credentials. Yes, So there
you go. And then he has his final small forward,
Michael Kidd Gilchrist. Would you put Michael kit Gilchrist's second
team as your small forward?

Speaker 3 (11:48):
That's not a bad pick. I mean, he did win
a national championship with numberwo pick in the draft. I
think you'd have to go like that.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
And he has his second team all sixth man, and
I know no one in this room is going to
disagree with this readship, which makes me thinking, yeah, see
collapse right there. You got to read Shepherd Jersey on
would you put so he's got Darius Miller and Reed
Shepherd as his two six men. I think probably an
ode to having kids from Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
And it just makes me mad you mentioned Reachevard being
a sixth man. Should have started the whole season. We've
met a much better year if you'd just start the man.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
But the man, well, all right, the Houston Rockets, by
the way, announced for people because you know Reid didn't
play a whole lot this year that he would. He
would be playing a lot more minutes next year, so
that's good for him.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Well, and when he got his chance, he really played really,
really well. But you're get in the playoffs, he's tough
to get h minutes on the on the floor. That
group the head.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
And speaking of playoffs, if you watch the KNICKT Pacers game,
our guys shinning. Cason Wallace, a dude who you know,
I think he's often gets forgotten, is a guy who
played here. I'm still mad that Cow wouldn't make him
the point guard that year and had Severe Wheelers a
boy guard, it should have been Cason Wallace. Yea, we
would have been a lot better if Cason Wallace was

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a point guard. He starts in an NBA Finals game.
I mean that that to me is unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
One thing about Caliperio, though, he brought in so much talent,
and some of these guys just kind of got lost
in the shuffle, got lost in the mix, and you
kind of forget about him. Cason Wallace is one of
those guys, but now is just thriving in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Start. If I had told you that Cason Wallace in
year what is it three in the NBA is year
two two or three three? That he would start in
the NBA Finals. Remember, there were times cow didn't start
him here. There were times he did not start here,
and he is starting in the NBA Finals.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
I remember when the went to the Thunder. I remember
thinking of myself, he's never gonna play. He's playing behind Shay,
He's never on the floor. Then he became like the
first guard off the bench. And it seems start last
night just credit to him how hard he's worked to
get to that level.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
The starting backcourt for the team. I know they lost
last night, and we'll talk about it. I still think
they're gonna end up winning the title. The starting Oh
wait a minute, you got pacers Jersey on you made
a disagree with me. Pacers ever I let's assume though,
they come back and win. The starting backcourt. Shit, yeah,
just think about this for a minute. The starting backcourt
for the NBA champion is gonna be two guys who,

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at times at UK didn't start. You want to get
frustrated with cow substitution pattern. The starting backcourt, one of
whom is the MVP when they first came to Kentucky
didn't even start. He told me this shot that is
extremely frusta.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
I would end up winning an NBA title before they
would win a college title, before.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
They would win a college SEC tournament game.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
That's true. I told you you're crazy. But yet here we.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Are frustrating a five nine twenty two eighty seven. We'd
like to hear from you. Give us a shout. We
are here in Somerset, Kentucky. A great crowd at the
Virginia Theater where Shannon's gonna be playing later tonight. We'll
take America. Be right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio
walking back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live in

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Summerset at the Virginia. A big crowd here this morning.
They got they got beer selling in the back there
at the Virginia Theater. Is that they're selling. Are you
all selling that? Got the mayor is in town? I
do think it. I always like to do when we
come to a town. You're usually pretty good at this.
Best athletes from Somerset? What we got here? Ryan? You

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know I ask you this every time I come a play.
We come to a play.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
YT's start Reggie Hanson, right, Reggie Hansen. Yeah, one state
title when he played for PU Pulaski County, played for Kentucky.
He had a little couple of minutes in the NBA.
I think the best baseball player's gotta be Josh Anderson
played for the started with Eku legend ended up in
the big leagues.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Uh, Like he says big leagues. Like he's like, that's
what people who play baseball say. They don't say the majors.
They say they're in the big leagues.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
They had some really good football players, but the best
one may have been a guy we called the coal
Train played for places Weenie Channel eight team. Okay we
didnt get you the nicknamed.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Cole Jane Mail call him that or just you all?

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Uh maybe just a okay?

Speaker 2 (16:03):
What was his name?

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Had like two thousand passing yards and two thousand rushing
yards in one season, like forty something touchdown?

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Will you tell us his actual name? Uh? Cole? Oh,
he didn't even know the name.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
What is his last name?

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Drawn? You don't know this person.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
I drew a blank cold what drawn?

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Drawn? Cold?

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Drawn?

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Cold? Drawn? And you just called him the col train.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
That's what we called him, the col train.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well did anybody in Somerset call him that? Or is
that just what you all called? Say? Thank you, ma'am.
She's just shaking her head saying, no. You don't seem
very happy, are you. You're wearing a ks R. You're
wearing my face on your shirt? Okay, all right, that's better.
You just were scowling a little bit. I was like,
are you happy to be here? Okay?

Speaker 3 (16:46):
It's a stink guy.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, you were giving us a little bit of the
stink guy. One person writes, Uh, Matt, I had a
bet with my friend whether or not you would lead
the show with Trump and Elon today. You didn't I
win the bet. I mean, I'm not saying I told
you so. Yeah, I told you so. Yep.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
I think we all knew how this was going to end.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
I said it was like if Louisville fans when Caliperi
and Stoops were fighting with each other, and that's how
how they had to have loved it that they were
fighting with each other. That's how I was yesterday. I promise,
I know a lot of people in here don't agree
with me on this, so I'll just let it go
in a second, but I do have to take one
day of going. I did enjoy them going after each
other yesterday. When two people you don't like fight, that

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makes me happy.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Shannon and I had our own little side bet. We
thought you'd lead with that. Also, because you can tell
by your tweets you're kind of enjoying the back of
poor Joy.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
I was like all afternoon, I was like, Okay, what's
the next thing they're gonna say about each other? I did.
It was inevitable, but I enjoyed watching it.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
We got I'm so proud of you. Got twenty minutes
into the show before.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
You mentioned that stuff. First, I was ready, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
You got somebody.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
You two guys like that, with all that power and
all that money, you realize that it's not gonna go.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
They can't coexist.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
I want if you have a chance this weekend, if
you care about college sports, and I think everybody here
that is here does care about college sports. Y'all got
to take a chance a second to listen. I did
a podcast yesterday which is on the Matt Jones Show
Feed with Ross Dellinger, and I think I've said to
you all, if you want to, this is the most
important summer in college sports history. Not just history, but

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going forward. What happens this summer is going to decide
what college sports looks like probably for the next fifteen
or twenty years. There's the House settlement that's gonna be
decided by July. First, that's about how players do rev share.
There's the question of whether or not they're gonna pass
a bill in Congress, which a lot of this stuff
that's happening right now with Trump and all that that

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will affect that. And then there is the once this
twenty million dollars starts getting shared, how's it gonna work.
So I had Ross Dellinger on my podcast. Ross is
the person who knows the most about this. His wife
actually works in politics, which is part how he gets
his connection on all this. He's on there. We talked
for like forty five minutes. You can listen to it,

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y'alla listen this weekend. But he said a lot of
things that are interesting and people should listen to all
of it. But let me give you a couple of
the short ones. First of all, he said schools can
spend twenty one million dollars, but Roz said, there are
schools who can't afford to spend that, and they're going
to be schools who don't who are not able to

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spend the twenty one million dollars. And I'm talking about
big schools, schools in the ACC, schools in the Big
twelve just not gonna be able to spend it, so
that's gonna hurt them. He then said that what we've
talked about on this show, how schools are gonna the
programs in the school are gonna be fighting each other
for who gets what chunk of money, he said, is
already happened it and he gave like a little piece

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of news that I thought was interesting. The SEC wanted
to make it we're out of the twenty one million dollars.
It was set in stone how much each program got,
so Shannon, they wanted to say football gets fourteen million,
basketball gets three million, women's basketball gets like one point five,
et cetera, and they were gonna and then baseball gets half,

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et cetera. They said the loudest voice of dissension in
the room was Kentucky basketball. That Kentucky basketball did not
want to have a cap of the three million dollars,
and because Kentucky Basketball complained so much, they did not
set caps on the teams, essentially saying to each college,

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you can distribute the money how you want. I find
that interesting shit because if Kentucky basketball was the one complaining,
that means Kentucky basketball is gonna get more than three
million dollars, which also means Kentucky football is going to
get less than the other schools in the SEC. I

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don't think i'd heard anybody say that. Till Ross said
it to me on my podcast yesterday. You need to listen.
He does a longer clip on it. But that's really
interesting to me because if you're the football staff and
you know, not only do you have to play in
the SEC, but you're going to have less money than
the other schools in the SEC, you gotta wonder how
they're gonna how they're gonna handle it.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
Yeah, I mean, if you're a mark stupis, you're fighting
for every dollar that you can get. But you know,
a lot of these schools are gonna have to decide
what's more important to us.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Is it basketball or is it football.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
If you're a basketball school, you're gonna obviously want more
in IO money in for basketball. If you're football, you're
gonna go to you know, more in IOL for football.
So it's gonna be interesting to see how these schools
divide it.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Ross said he thinks schools in the SEC have basically
said we're gonna do football, basketball, and then we're gonna
pick one more sport to be good at, and every
school is going to figure out what that sport is.
And he thinks some of them are gonna be baseball,
like LSU and Mississippi State. He thinks some of them
are gonna be women's basketball, like South Carolina. And then

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he said, for schools like Kentucky, they probably have to
choose do we want to be really good at women's
basketball or do we want to be really good at baseball?
And the question is ryan which one will we gonna choose?

Speaker 3 (22:09):
You're right, a lot of schools baseball is very important,
more important. A lot of times than their basketball team is.
So I can see them give you more money to baseball.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
And also softball. Yeah, there are schools that will that
will Oklahoma will probably pick softball as the one they
do so. I but to hear this is a national
reporter said the SEC's entire structure of how they're gonna
play players was changed because Kentucky basketball basically said we

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don't want to have a cap on how much we get.
I think that's awesome for Kentucky basketball, but it does
make me wonder if the Kentucky football people are gonna
be like, you just.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
Just come on out to say something here.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
That'll be really interesting to see. Eight five nine twenty
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Speaker 3 (23:01):
Eight.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
If I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven, Nah,
we'll go to the phone here and just sega text
machine seven seven two seven seven four five two five four.
I know on paper this isn't interesting, but the Dallas Stars,
the hockey team, just fired their coach. That means Shannon
In the NBA, the Knicks fired Tom Thibodeau. In hockey,
they fired the Dallas Stars fired their coach. Two people

(23:23):
who went to the final four in their sports both
fired the year they went to the final four. Would
you fire a coach who just took you to the
final four in your sport? Both in both basketball and hockey.
Somebody's done that this year.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
No, especially not the Knicks.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
I mean a team that hasn't been really that great
and since when the nineties, it's the last time that
they were, you know, that far into the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
So no, there's no way I would have fire.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Can you imagine a college basketball coach getting fired after
making the final four?

Speaker 5 (23:51):
I mean, who apparently was the front office that didn't
like the lineup that he was putting out there. He
was experimenting with the lineups and the playoffs. They didn't
like that, so they fire him. But I'm like, he
got you this, thank.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
You this far. I don't know what else you can want.
Are you had a question for me about the revenue thing?
And I think it's something other people will ask too, Ryan,
What is it you know?

Speaker 3 (24:08):
At its core? I am a reporter?

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Are you so?

Speaker 3 (24:10):
What I would like to know from you?

Speaker 2 (24:12):
I don't think that's true.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
But Okay, if Kentucky opts to give more money to
UK basketball, yes, does that money have to come from
the UK football allotment?

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yes? So I mean, let let's lose this table of
four people right here, right there's four of you. Let's
say you represent the four sports, the four major sports, football, basketball,
women's basketball, baseball. Let's say that you make those four.
I've got twenty one dollars to split amongst you all,
and I can decide what I want to do. The

(24:42):
SEC wanted to make sure that Okay, you're football, you're
getting fourteen, you're basketball, you're getting three. Blah blah blah
blah blah. Kentucky Basketball said, don't do that, which means
if Kentucky basketball gets five, that other two's got to
come from somebody. It's got to come from somebody. And
women's basketball and baseball can only be cut so much,
which means it's got to come from football. So if

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you decide to give basketball more, you are inherently cutting
from football. And here's the other thing you have to
worry about. I talked about this the other day. Every
power school can spend twenty one million dollars. Now, Shannon,
they don't have to spend it, but they can't. All right,
So I just said what Kentucky has. Now, you're sitting

(25:24):
by yourself here. You know who you are. You're Saint
John's cause you don't have a football program and you
don't have a women's basketball program. That's good. So Saint
John's can say, I can spend twenty one million dollars,
I'm gonta spend it all on basketball because they don't
have to share it.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Good.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
So Saint John's think about the teams that have a
football team, Saint John's, Villanova, Connecticut, Gonzaga, those schools. Now,
they may not be able to raise the twenty one
million dollars, but if they can, Shannon, they could, in theory,
spend it all on basketball. And I think Kentucky's premise is,

(26:06):
we don't want to only have three million dollars and
be recruiting against Rick up in New York, who's got
twenty million dollars. We have to be able to be flexible. Now,
Ross said, hey, Kentucky can make some of that up
with collectives, but not the whole thing. So that's why
they want to have that flexibility.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
So if you're Kentucky, then how would you divide this up?
I've got a number in my mind. I want to say,
if you Mitch Barnhart.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Mitch Barnhart is and this is why this summer is
so important. Mitch Barnhart is going to make a decision literally,
he's probably making it right now about how they're going
to divide that up. And in my opinion, it will
tell the country what Kentucky's priorities are going to be.

(26:52):
Do they like, you're going to be making a statement
as to whether or not what matters to you. And
I don't know how you do it right. And let's
say you were Mitch Bornhard, how would you grovide it up? Yeah,
you're gonna got twenty million dollars. Let's just assume Sorry interrupt,
but let's just assume women's basketball, baseball, softball, they're gonna
take three million. So I've given you seventeen million dollars.

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The rest of the SEC is gonna do fourteen football,
three basketball. What are you gonna do?

Speaker 3 (27:22):
That's that's tough because you got to compete against those
other schools that are given fourteen million. You're gonna go
to Mark students tell them, Hey, I'm gonna give you
two million less than all the other schools are getting
the SEC.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
What are you gonna do?

Speaker 3 (27:30):
But we're basketball, We're Kentucky. Basketball is what's important to
most of us. I think we got to invest in basketball.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
So what are you gonna do?

Speaker 3 (27:37):
I go five to basketball, twelve to football.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Five to basketball, twelve to football. What are you gonna do?

Speaker 5 (27:42):
No, I had a completely different number in mind. I
was gonna go what you're saying, you're taking away to
three million. I would probably go like nine million to basketball. Really,
Oh yeah, I mean we're a basketball school.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
So you're gonna do nine basketball eight football. You're gonna
give our football team half the budget of the rest
of the SEC?

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yes? Are we a basketball school or a football school?
It goes back to the calip of years ago.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Well, okay, so to play your case, you don't think
Duke's gonna do something like that, Sure, I mean, Duke's
just gonna sacrifice there. I'm just gonna gass. Duke's just
gonna sacrifice their football program. They're gonna say it was
nice having you, Duke, But we're a basketball program. Kansas
is probably just gonna sacrifice their football program. They're probably

(28:34):
gonna say, you know what, We're Kansas whatever. North Carolina
is gonna try to do both. They hired Bill Belichick.
They didn't hire Bill Belichick to give him half the money.
So the question is, Ryan, is Kentucky more like Kansas
and Duke or are we more like North Carolina, Michigan,
et cetera, trying to be good at both? What are

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we gonna do? Because I think Kentucky's in the weirdest
position of all. I'm the athletic director at Kansas and Duke,
I'm saying football was nice, knowing you see you later.
And if I'm North Carolina and I've just hired Bill Belichick,
I can't just scrap football. But Kentucky's kind of in
the middle, and I don't really know what they do right.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah, cause just a couple years ago we were knocking
on the door with Michigan State North Carolina, and now
the last couple of years maybe not so. But we
built that. We got ourselves up to that point. I
don't think you want to take a huge step back.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
And unlike Kansas and Duke that are playing in football
conferences that are kind of a little bit of a
second tier. We're playing in the SEC, like we're not
playing against Georgia Tech. In football, we're playing against Georgia.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
That's the thing right in this era of Kentucky is
ever going to be able to compete for an SEC
title in football? They're gonna need almost all that twenty
million by themselves. But then you can't not give anything
to basketball and the other schools.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
I think this is the most important choice that the
UK Athletics is going to make in the next decade
is being made right now, and I don't know what
they're gonna do, and I don't even know what's what
crazy is. We might not even know what they do
cause they won't have to announce how the revenue was
shared until like a year from that, so we won't

(30:18):
even know what they decided to do for a while.
I mean, the next time I interviewed Mitch Bartard, I'm
not asking this what are you doing? Like, what are
you gonna do? Mitch did an interview where he see's
gonna be flexible year to year, But I don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
How do you walk over to Marc Stoop's office and
tell him I'm not gonna get I'm gonna give you
less than all the other schools in the SEC.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
You gotta be a man.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
But then, how do you look at Mark? How do
you look at how do you look at Mark pop
and say, Mark, I expect you to go hang band
or number nine, But you got half as much money
as Yukon, Villanova and Saint John. Yep. Yeah, I don't
know who's up next? God, Sean, up next? Sean? Go ahead? Sean?

Speaker 6 (30:58):
Hey, guys, A quick to part of it. I can
attendance wise, what do you expect for the opener in
Central Michigan football? Obviously, and if they win that, you know,
as down as there's you know, as we ben, there's
no enthusiasm. But if they win that opener the following week,
Ole Miss at three thirty, I mean it's fireball in Cornwall, right,
darn near sold out? I mean we'll you know, maybe

(31:19):
three is one back one week the fan base is back.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Uh well, first of all, I think you will have
good crowds for week one and two. I mean opening game.
People just come so I don't know if it'll be full,
but I think it'll be pretty close. If we win
Week one, oh Miss will be full. What I'm more
interested in is if you lose to Old Miss by lot,
what is week three like? Like, That's where I think

(31:45):
you'll really see the tail. I think they're gonna get
a really good crowd for the opener. We always do
Oh Miss at three point thirty if we're now, if
we lose to Toledo, that Old Miss game may not
be great. But if we beat Toledo, I think people
will be into it. But then I think you really see,
right and what it's gonna be week three when they
play against against Eastern Michigan.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yeah, yeah, Toleedo game you win that one, Ole Miss
will be packed. Sec opener will be a beautiful day,
I'm sure, Saturday afternoon in September. But do you lose
that one? If you lose both of those, there may
be a half.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
There's a bigger question, Shannon, which is you know, you
got that Eastern Michigan game, and then you have road games.
I don't know who are the next two, but we
might get blown out in both of those next two
road games. When we come back the week after.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
That, that's really gonna tell the story.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
You know, because we play is it? Do we play tech?
I think there's a weekend which is Texas football, but
it's also our opening exhibition basketball game. We play Perdue,
right and Keenland is that weekend?

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Do people go to that game because they're already gonna
have that Perdue exhibition game. That's where I think you
have to see what happens.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah, I think there'll be a lot of Texas fans
at Kroger Field for the Kentucky Texas football game.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
I I mean, I worry about the attendance, but I
mean it's just on them, Like you know, it's gonna
be on the team, the staff.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
What happens.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
We've heard, you know, this offseason. I think an alarming
number of season ticket holders who have canceled, who have
been holders, season ticket holders for years, you know, and
they just canceled this year.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
One person rights, Matt, what do you think the fan
base would say about the money? Well, I don't know,
But let's do a little poll here, all right, all right,
I'm gonna give you three options of I'm gonna give
you three options. You tell me what you vote for.
Option one will be we do what the rest of
the SEC does, which is fourteen million football three basketball.
Option two would be a little more pro basketball, twelve

(33:43):
in to football, five to basketball, and option three would
be Shannon's we go all in on basketball and spend
like eight or nine million on football. How many of
you would say, do what the rest of the SEC
does and make it fourteen and three? Raise your head?
Whoa one person? Whoa wow? One person? How many of

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you would say the sort of five million basketball, twelve football?
Raise your head? How many of you take Shannon's forget football,
make it fast? Wow? Wow? Does that surprise you? Yeah,
a little bit. So for people listening at home, it
was probably sixty percent Shannon's, thirty five percent mine, and

(34:24):
then five per well, one guy saying uh saying make.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
It equally wow.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Now that is a little telling me. I would not
have thought sixty percent of the people would just say
throw football out.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
I wonder if we had the same We're not completely
throwing them out, but saying, well, we'll give you.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
Do you have to prioritize like what means more to you?
And I think basketball will always mean more.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Does that mean cow was right we're a basketball school.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Does that mean I mean if we had the same
scenario like four or five years ago.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
That's a good question. Do you think people would have
said that cow's last year. No, that's an interesting question.
Let's say it was the year we came off eight
and four in football and Kala just lost to Saint Peter.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
I think we would say we need it more nil
for basketball, we wouldn't have lost to Saint Peters.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
You think it would have been a similar result. See,
I think the results a little different because these people
because everybody likes mart Pope so much and everybody wants
Mart Pope to win. But that is that surprised me.
I did not think that was gonna be the answer.
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lendafarms dot com will take a break. I still can't
believe that poll. You are at home. Does anybody disagree
with them? Or just what was the one guy who
said equal you and my mullet guy back? There is
anybody that agrees with him? We'll take a break and
be right back. This is a KSR work, come back.
It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live at the Virginia,
a great theater here in Somerset been restored as a

(36:19):
live performance venue and it is an awesome place. Shannon,
what time you play her tonight?

Speaker 4 (36:24):
What's going on at eight o'clock?

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Eight o'clock tonight? Alice Blue Gown will come. Hope you
guys will come out and join them, and I'm sure
you will have a great crowd hit there. You can
hear Shannon doing his thing. I head down to c
m A Fest tomorrow. We uh, I'm there. I didn't
realize they have music going from eight am all the
way till midnight. Yeah, uh so we will be playing.

(36:47):
But Bailey, you guy, Bailey Zimmerman is gonna be playing
while we're while we're doing.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
All that new country that you love you're gonna get
earful of it.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
You're out in Nashville and you see Meyern and I
on the streets. Welcome him because he's very, very nervous
about being in Nashville. I don't know what he thinks
is gonna happen, but he's great.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
To take him somewhere nice and get him a cowboy hat.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
I'm getting a cowboy Don't you worry one person, rights mad.
I listened to your interview with Ross Dellinger. I thought
it was fascinating some of the things he talked about.
Do you agree with him that they will actually use
the clearing house all right? So people don't know what
he's talking about. This is one of the things he
said which I thought was fascinating. So you know, now,

(37:26):
basically the collectives can just hand the money players. They
really don't have to do anything. True. As part of
this settlement, there is going to be a clearing house
run by Deloitte, not run by the NCAA, Okay, run
by you know how the oscars will say the votes
have been added up by this accounting company. Basically, they

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have hired a company outside of the NCAA that's going
to look at all nil deals and make sure that
they're paying fair market value and that the players are
doing work for the money, basically making it to where
nil is INIL. Now, why does that matter? Because if

(38:11):
they do that, somebody like Joe Kraft for us or
somebody like whoever cannot make up the difference from that
twenty million. Does that make sense? Because there have been
people who said, Hey, Kentucky, and it was a TV
show I was on once.

Speaker 7 (38:25):
But.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Kentucky can spend three million dollars on basketball and then
they can go get a donor to give fifteen million
dollars in collective money. In theory, Ryan, you won't be
able to do that anymore. You'll have to prove that
when you give Trent Noah amount of money that he
has quote unquote worked for it by doing the endorsements,
et cetera. And I think at that point a lot

(38:48):
of that stuff will go away.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
I think a lot of it will go away. There'll
be something that will still do it, like Trent Noel
might be a guy that does some local spots to
earn some of that extra money. But you're right, a
lot of it is gonna but you're not going to.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Be able to give otegaway three three million dollars and say, hey,
he has three million dollars, and then he does one commercial.
You're gonna have to show that that three million he
does an amount worth the three million, which is gonna
be hard to do.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
But see, that's what I thought in Io was supposed
to be all along, and it turned into we're just
gonna give you know, players money.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
You don't have to do anything.

Speaker 5 (39:20):
So I think it's actually a good thing that they're
making them work for the money.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
So that's why I think it's so important the decision
Mitch makes, because you're not just gonna be able to
make up the money with a donor right in a
check like you used to be able to do. Who's
up next, Emmitt is up next, Emmitt, go ahead, Mmit.

Speaker 7 (39:38):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I really do think it
matters what sport. I think you have the best chance
to compete for a championship in because like Kentucky, if
you give them fourteen million or whatever it is and
they're still finishing fourth or fifth, it kind of I
don't know if it meets the needs of what we
write versus in basketball, that money we have a chance

(39:58):
to compete for a championship year, and I think that
really matters in determining how much money each program is
gonna get.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Well, that would be the argument for Shannon's thing. I
appreciate the call. Why spend fourteen Shannon? If we're going
to get the same results if we if we had
spent eight, so you might as well spend eight and
put the six towards basketball.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
It is what you would say, Yeah, we know, we
know the basketball team is going to compete for a title,
so why not give them the money that they need
to be able to do that.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
He also said Royce said he thought college that. He
said he didn't think coaches salaries would necessarily go down,
but he said the days of you signing a guy
to a ten year deal and guaranteeing the money like
we did with cal Or like Jimbo Fisher at ain't him.
He said that's done. He was like, now coaches are
going to be on three year deals, four year deals.

(40:46):
He thinks they'll be a lot more coaches fired. He's like,
the days of you having to pay eighty million dollar buyouts.
He was like, those days are done.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
I have another reporter question, Okay, I got what I
think about this to why I realize the athletic budget,
Lortie depends on the revenue gain by SEC football.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Great point, So how do you cut that? I mean,
all right, let's use the sixty percent of the voters
here in Shannon's You do that position, and then nobody
goes to the football games. Shannon, you might not have
the revenue to pay the twenty million dollars to begin with.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
They'll still go to the games. They'll still go to
the Do you think we go.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
To the games to be uncompetitive again, No.

Speaker 5 (41:26):
But I don't think that's the mindset. But I think
that fans will still go to the games. It's still football,
you know.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
I think I think Kentucky has one of the hardest
choices of any college because, like I said, it's pretty
clear what Duke gotta do, and it's pretty clear what
Kansas should do. I think Kentucky and North Carolina have
to sit there and go, what do we do? Yeah,
and you know they've already spent that money on Belichick,
so they ain't gonna punt, I wouldn't think. So it's

(41:56):
gonna be tough Mitch. Mitch is gonna make this is
the most important decision for UK athletics in the next decade,
and Mitch is making it. And this is probably be
the last big decision he makes before he retires. To
be honest with you, we'll take a break and be
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