June 9, 2025 • 43 mins
Matt, Ryan, and Shannon talk House vs NCAA settlement, Murray State Baseball playing to go to the College World Series, and your calls.
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Speaker 4 (01:06):
I remember two Techy Sports Radio eight five nine two
eight oh twenty two eighty seven. Text machine is seven
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k White Sports Radio. Text machine kind of filling up
a little bit today. One person rights Matt. I watched
college baseball all weekend. Was really excited to see Tennessee lose. Yes,
(01:27):
Tennessee losing was awesome. Louisville winning less awesome. We'll talk
about Murray here in just a little bit because I'm
getting behind that tonight. But it's glad to see Tennessee lose.
Louisville makes a College World Series after missing the tournament
the last two years. That makes their fans being annoying.
But otherwise, uh, it was a good week. Only one
series left. Seven different conferences have a chance to be
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represented in the College World Series. So people said Ryan
Parody was over in college sports. Maybe not in baseball.
That may be the sport where parody still exists.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
The SEC kind of do aster rankings and everybody they're
the power conference. The day we saw teams just kind
of drop out little by little in the SEC, some
little little schools gay and.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
See, he didn't have a great. They didn't have a
great run on.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yeah, only two of the thirteen teams that made the
tournament made the College World Series. Only four even made
the Sweet sixteen. Okay, uh, we got somebody on. I'm
gonna take this call before I do the house thing.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Who's up first, Let's go to Dennis.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Dennis, go ahead, Dennis.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
All right, real quick here. As in politics, I'm glad
California doesn't speak to me. And as a UK football fan,
I'm Glass Sumrset doesn't speak to me. Uh, football is
the key.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Why do you have to throw Why do you have
to throw in the political thing?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Shannon there for you like everybody's like match, stay out
of politics. And then he breaks in with the political thing.
But I'm sure after the news last night, I understand.
But go ahead with your Summerset point.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Well anyway, I'm Glass Summer. The people in Somerset don't
speak for me. As a ukotball fan, I agree with
the sec the both the money belongs to football. It's
the one that brings in the money, the TV revenue.
The football is king. Whether UK fans like that or not,
football is king. And as a UK football fan, if
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I ever, if I ever see where the university is
not putting as uh, it's not putting in the money
as the rest of the SEC is wanting to do.
If they're not if they're not equaling the rest of
the teams, and they are putting more money into basketball.
As a season ticket holder since ninety eight, I will
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give up my football tickets because I'm not.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Gonna Well, it's appropreciate you making appreciate you where they
don't commit.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
I understand.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Appreciate you making that point. And I was shocked by
the reaction in Somerset, I really was.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
I mean the fact that we had one person in
the entire crowd right.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Say they wanted to spend equal football money to the
rest of the SEC, and the other people either said,
we want to give a little bit more money to
basketball than the other schools, or we want to just
go all in on basketball. Appreciate the call, Dennis, I
don't know shit. Like Ryan, I was shocked by that,
to be honest with you, But it was the whole crew.
(04:21):
There were one hundred people there, one hundred and twenty
five people, and that's what they came up with.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I also was very shocked. I think the numbers may
have been a little different if five years ago come
off a ten win season, but coming off the last
couple of years, I think people were kind of a
little down on Kentucky football, and that's why they'd rather
had spend it on basketball where we're going up.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It was one percent in summerset, and I'm gonna go
ahead and assume it's one percent for people listening, because
we've only had one caller opposing what I said, and
we've got thousands upon thousands of.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Listeners, so that would be less than one percent.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Well, I think there's probably more than one. The others
might not have called.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
But I don't think it's I was shocked by the percentage,
all right. One person rights to the text machine, Matt.
I tried to read stuff, but I get bored. Can
you explain the nil House settlement for me? Like I'm
a five year old?
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Isn't that the isn't that what they say in the office?
Is that right where he exists? It's plained it to me,
like I'm a five year old.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
All right, So I'm gonna do this the easiest way
possible and the quickest way possible. Here's what happened, Friday Night,
a swimmer whose last name is House. It's not the
House of Representatives, they say the House Settlements because this
dude's last name happened to be House. He sued the
NCAA and said, look, I played sports for a long time.
You made money off me. We need to get money.
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And the settlement was basically settling the last ten years
of athletes in college sports, saying we owe you collectively
this much money. The group representing the athletes, representing the students,
and the NCAA settled. They settled for two point eight
billion dollars. Ryan, that's a lot.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Of money, two point eight billion euros.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Don't you why they only do ten years Because in
the law there's a statue of limitations that says if
you don't sue within ten years, or at least in
the state where they filed this, which was California, the
statue of limitation was ten years. So that's why athletes
before twenty fifteen don't get anything. So for people who
played before twenty fifteen, Shannon, they should have sued.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Earlier inact that was the problem.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
So that's why it's some people ask why is it
only twenty fifteen it's because of statue of limitations. So
they create this system that basically says, here's how we're
going to pay everybody from the last ten years. And
it was two point eight billion dollars and you had
to file acclaim. Im I remember when Max did it
like and you can get various people get various amounts
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of money. Some of you all listening who played sports
from twenty fifteen to twenty twenty five, you may have
gotten money or going to get money out of it.
But then as part of the settlement, they were trying
to decide the rules that are going to police college
sports going forward, and the court the judge said, look,
because athletes are not employees, I have no way to
(07:06):
know what athletes want. So hey, these athletes from the
last ten years, y'all are gonna represent what athletes want
in the future. The judge was very clear, this isn't perfect,
but this is the best we can do because athletes
are not employees under American law. Yet so they did it,
and they created a system that basically says, to avoid
(07:26):
lawsuits in the future, twenty zero point five million dollars
in twenty twenty five, all the way through, and it
raises to like thirty three million dollars in twenty thirty five.
You will share this money with the athletes if you want.
If you don't want to, then the athletes can individually
(07:48):
bring claims against you and Ryan. You can assume that
very few schools want that right, Very few schools want
to leave the option they can get sued. So virtually
all the major schools are gonna opt into this because
they don't want to get sued right now, by the way,
they're gonna get sued anyway, and we'll talk about that
in a minute. But all these major universities have agreed,
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and it says they can spend up to twenty point
five million dollars, but they don't have to. They can
choose to spend less, but they have the option to
spend twenty point five million dollars. The reporting suggests that
every SEC school is gonna spend that amount of money. Now,
there are no limits in the settlements to how much
you can spend. You could spend all twenty point five
(08:32):
million dollars on baseball if you wanted to.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
You could spend a million dollars on each point.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Every school gets to decide themselves, so people have asked,
what about Title nine? Do you have to spend the
same on men's sports and women's sports. It's not clear,
but it's looking like the answer to that is going
to be no. Under the law, you have to spend
you have to give women equal opportunity, but not each results.
(09:01):
And over time the courts have interpreted if you give
women equal scholarship money, that's opportunity. You don't have to
give them equal results. Whether that'll always be the law,
who knows, but that's the law now. So that's why
you don't have to spend the same amount of money
on men's sports as women's sports. Football can get the
most because they bring in the most revenue. Now, so
(09:25):
that's where the twenty point five million dollars comes from. Now,
the NCAA has volunteerly, and all of its schools have
volunteerily said we're gonna abide by these rules twenty point
five million. So what keeps a school from spending more? Well,
the NCAA has hired a private accounting firm. Right, are
(09:45):
you following me so far? Is this making sense?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I'm doing a good job kind of hanging in there.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
A private accounting firm to determine that any money over
the twenty point five million dollars it's given you have
to do work for for it. So, Shannon, if I
sign you to a deal for five hundred thousand dollars,
you're gonna have to prove to this accounting firm you
did five hundred thousand dollars worth of work for me?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Got it?
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Now, that doesn't mean work like you went and worked
on a road. It can be a commercial. But the
accounting firm is gonna say, is the work Shannon did?
Did the work Shannon do? Was it worth the money
you gave him? You can't overpay them just to give
him money.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Is that where the fair market value comes in?
Speaker 5 (10:27):
That's the fair market value?
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Yes, so they're gonna determine you give otaga Oway five
hundred thousand dollars, was it worth five hundred thousand what
he did for you?
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Now? How do they come up with that? Great question?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
But that's what accounting firms do. They look and see
what everybody else is getting paid. They look and see
what celebrities and other worlds get paid, and they determine
ryan is that equivalent. That's gonna be a huge decision,
Like how much is an Otaga commercial worth? What do
you think, Ryan, how much do you think it's worth
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a company to run a commercial with Otega away in it.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Well, in the election market, that was gonna be a
lot different than in the Chicago, La New York market,
you know, you.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Who knows and the But these accounting firms, that's their
job to figure out. And the NCAA has said whatever
the accounting firm says, goes okay. So that's the system. Now,
could somebody sue and challenge the system? I think the
answer to that is yes, So how do you make
(11:34):
sure that system holds up? This is where they're going
to Congress, and specifically they're going to Ted Cruz and
Corey Booker. They're the ones running this and saying, hey,
Ted Cruise and Corey Booker, this case representative of athletes
agreed to it. The NCAAA agreed to it. Make this
case law. Make this case law, and then we can
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govern college sports for the next ten years, or for
the next twenty years, next hire many years. And that's
where it is. They are now going to Congress and saying,
please make this law.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Now.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
The problem is, as if you follow the news, Congress
is fighting about a lot of other stuff.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Now will they make this a priority? Who knows.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
In order for it to pass, it's gonna have to
have Democratic votes too, because you have to get sixty
votes in the Senate, which is why the Democrats and
Republicans have to work together.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
But the future at college.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Sports is in the hands of Corey Booker and Ted
Cruz because they're the ones taking the lead on it,
and the NCAA is hoping that they will make law
what this court just did on Friday night, and that's
where we are right now. This will be the rules
for at least the next couple years. Somebody's gonna challenge them.
(12:49):
And it's up to Congress now Ryan to make law
what that judge approved on Friday night, and we'll see
if they do it.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
It's definitely like the biggest change in college athletics in
our lifetime.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I mean, this is without it's the biggest change since integration.
That's what I say, the biggest change since college sports
got integrated. I think this is the biggest change since then.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
It just seems like when you hear explain it, it
would gonna be hard for this accounting from the police.
What is acceptable and what's not acceptable?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Because you're the judge, somebody is willing to pay, you know, yes, but.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
They're gonna have to say, Okay, here's how they're because
the judge asked these questions. And what the accounting firm
said is, we're gonna look around and see are you
given what everybody else would give? So oddly, they're trying
to make it Ryan, to where if Kentucky gives it,
then the guy might make a similar amount of money
in Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Ohio, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
So the goal is almost to make it to where
all the schools can kind of give the same amount
of money and we'll see what it is.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Now. Is that gonna work?
Speaker 4 (13:53):
I don't know, But the accounting firm convinced the judge
that they could create standards that would be consistent.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
And Ryan, we're gonna have to wait and see who was.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
His accounting firm. They've been giving a lot of power.
It seems like now.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
The counting firm has a ton of five power. It's
called Deloitt. I don't know anybody that works at Deloitte.
Actually I do know one person that works at Deloitte,
but I don't know many. But they will be the one.
Apparently they have taken a set of their employees. Think
about this, Shannon, that they have like a set of
like one hundred employees that their whole job will be
to review these cases. So Deloitte has become extremely powerful. Yeah,
(14:31):
and I don't think power.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I sense a future guest on the Matt Jones podcast.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I don't know if they can talk about it, but
what we need is a Kentucky fan working at Deloitte. Alright,
Deloitte has become the most important to the most important
accounting firm in America if you like college sports, So
that's where it is. If you have questions, I'm glad
to answer them. But that is the five year old,
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big exture version of what happened on Friday Night.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
I think the three most important things in college sports.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Have ever happened. What was integration? Title nine? And now
this no doubt and this will govern the next twenty years.
But Deloitte and Ted Cruz and Corey Booker are kind
of the most important parts of this. The NCAA has
voluntarily given up a lot of power rhyme. You know,
(15:28):
we used always complain about the NCAA. They've given up
a ton of power. It is now Deloitte and Congress.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
That's where we are.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, surprise the NCAA would give up that power because for.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Years they didn't have a choice.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
They really didn't have a choice because they've been doing
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Speaker 4 (16:25):
We gotta find a Kentucky fan that works at Deloit.
Amen sneak in, Shannon right now. Tell them to approve
all the Kentucky ones and disapprove all the Tennessee ones.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, then you'd have a whole scandal on your hands.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
Good, that's what we need.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
We don't need a scandal.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
We need it. We'll take it. Break right back to KOSHR.
Welcome back in is Kentucky Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
If I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven,
listen Deloitte office Ryan in Louisville and Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Oh, maybe we've got some read.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
It works there. Sure have to, Shannon, there's got to
be a listener that works in one of those.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Let's hope he's not a love fan, because you think
they're committed.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
We can't have at.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
The committee's gonna be from all across the the United States.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
I'm sure they'll do somethinghere like they decide the Kentucky
deals in California.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
You know what I mean. I'm sure they'll probably Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
No, one person writes, Matt, Can the University of Kentucky
hire an athlete to do a commercial?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
No, that's part of the agreement.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
The university cannot has to be a private entity or
business that Joe Craft could do it. So Joe Craft
could could sign you know, Otago Way to do a commercial,
but he'll have to prove Ryan to Deloitte that he's
paying him what he's worth for what he's doing.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
That's where I say it's gonna be hard to police that,
I think, because there's every mark.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
What Deloitte's there for. And the judge I followed this.
I read the judge's opinion. She did an amazing job.
She asked all of these questions. She was like, you
got to prove to me that you can police this fairly.
And again I didn't see what the Lloyd said, but
Shannon apparently they said enough that she believed they could
do it.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
See, yeah, you're putting a lot of trust in put.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
A lot of pressure on these private companies, you know,
to uh to make this decision. One person rides Matt.
As soon as somebody's deal gets rejected, they will sue.
I'm not I'm certain of it. Yes, they will, which
is why they got to have Congress pass this law.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
This settlement is only.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Going to work for a year or two. Somebody's gonna sue.
They need Congress to pass this law. And I am
not a fan of Ted Cruz, and I'm sure there's
some people listening that are not a fan of Corey Booker.
But we need to hope those two dudes do it
because we love this sport. Everybody listening loves college athletics.
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That's why you listen. Probably we need these two dudes
to do it, and I will give a big handshake
to both of them if they can pull it off,
because it's necessary. You know, the presidents people have suggested
that they're leaving it to them. They they talked about
a commission, but apparently they pulled the plug on that.
So it's these guys. And then it's a group of
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people in the house that includes Morgan McGarvey, who I
started working with a Frost Brown Todd, who is a
Kentucky fan and who I've known for twenty five years.
He's in the group in the house working on it.
But really it's Corey Booker and Ted Cruz, so cross
your fingers. Those two dudes make it work. I'm nine
two eighty seven.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Who's next? Bode boo day? How are you.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
Hey, man? How are you man?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
I'm good?
Speaker 7 (19:33):
Thank thank you, thank you, thank you for bringing the
little show to the summer set Friday Man and spreading
a little good cheer and dude, Alice Blue jay On
tore it up.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Yeah, I heard you say that on the pre show.
You you really believe that You've called twice for that.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
What I had to when you said, Noboddy's on the
phone and hear it, Shannon, your official autogram from here
on out for Alice will gown. You need to sign it.
Colonel the dude.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Well, we're all Kentucky courtles now, so that's exciting. Well, Boodet,
thank you very much, and thank you all for coming
out to the show. There was a we had a
ton of people for our show. I know your show
went well that night, right, Shannon.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah, yeah, good crowd and a lot of fun. So really,
I appreciate everybody for that very.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Cool place there in uh in Somerset, the Virginia and
thank you. That was one of the better June crowds
we've ever had for a remote. It was awesome. I mean,
maybe the biggest in a few years. So thank you
all very much to all those people that came out. Ryan,
you're excited for Murray State tonight play. D Wait, this
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is a chance. I mean, this is like a historic
chance for Murray State. This team had not won a
game in the NCAA Tournament since nineteen seventy nine. In baseball,
the other seven people, other seven teams in the College
World Series are decided. All that's left is Murray State
and Duke. The whole country will be watching this game, literally,
the whole country. It's the only game on. You gotta
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think everybody in America's rooting for Murray State, right right?
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Isn't everybody rooting for Murray State?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Then you got to, man, because Duke is like the
evil Empire over there, and Murray State scored nineteen runs
yesterday and all eyes of the baseball world is on
that game tonight at Duke. Game three, loser goes home,
winner goes to the College World Series.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Help me understand something, Shaneon I don't know if you've
watched Murray State play, but I would think at Murray State,
they don't probably have a lot of major league prospects. Right,
they have played against Old Miss, Georgia Tech, and Duke
in this tournament, all teams in major conferences, and they
have scored against Old Miss, Georgia Tech, and Duke over
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ten runs in four.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Of their eight games. How is that possible?
Speaker 4 (21:53):
How is this team so good at hitting that they
can score nineteen runs?
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Like? What do they do?
Speaker 8 (21:59):
That?
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Make? To where? And why don't other teams do it?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I think that maybe they do have some Major League
Baseball prospects, especially if they're watching these games. Well, I
mean maybe that you know, you see it in the
NCAA tournament in basketball all the time, a guy you
never heard of goes off in the tournament. Next thing
you know, he's drafted by the NBA. So you know,
maybe you do have some guys that will end up
in the MLB draft.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Right? What do they do? I mean, like how do
they score?
Speaker 4 (22:22):
They scored like sixteen against Old Miss, fourteen against Georgia Tech,
nineteen against.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Duke, Like what what do they do?
Speaker 8 (22:31):
Do?
Speaker 5 (22:31):
They just like chop the ball and help people mess up?
Like what do they do?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I don't know who deserves the credited coach Kirka who
came out with us or they're hitting coach, but somebody
obviously he's got some magic working. And these guys are
just not intimidated. They went to Oxford, you know, one
of the best programs in the country, and beat Ole
Miss on their home field. Now they beat Duke in
a super regional on their home field. These guys are
just not intimidated by anybody.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Well, I'm gonna watch the game tonight and I listen,
I'm pulling for Murray State going. I saw there's a
college baseball podcast that I listened to on my drive
down and they said, if Murray State makes the College
World Series, it'll be the biggest upset in the history
college baseball.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
That's what they said. That's an amazing But that's an
amazing statement, is yeah, yeah of college baseball.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
For them to go to I mean a four C
with the you know, it's amazing. So go Murray State.
I hope they win, and I hopefully that's what we're
talking about tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
We'll take a break. Be right back SKSR. TJ Smith
personal injury attorney call TJ. He'll make them pay.
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Speaker 4 (23:39):
Here's Matt Jones, Walterback Turkey Sports Radio A five nine
two twenty two eighty seven. The Murray State game is
on ESPN tonight, So it's on regular ESPN. That's cool
for that program, just to get to that, Ryan be
on regular ESPN. How many times you think Murray State
baseball has ever played on regular ESPN?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Never ever ever had been on Probably never, Yeah, ESPN
nine maybe or something like that. Never been on the
main channel.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
I bet they've never been on there.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And their basketball team to be on the regular yeah, yes, team.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
They've probably only been on there a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
True.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
And now and now to have their baseball team on there,
that's gotta be awesome. One person, right, Shannon said, you
hear about it all the time. A player goes off
in the NCAA tournament then gets drafted in the NBA.
I'm throwing the challenge flag. Could Shannon name one example?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Steph Curry?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Well, Steph Curry was going to be a first round
pick anyway, but you're right, he got he became more prominent.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Well you didn't, but he was on draft boards. Now
he did rise.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I think that's fair, but but he was probably gonna
be a first round pick anyway.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Can you get any others? I'm on your side here.
I want you to get one.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Bryce Drew didn't he play in the NBA and he
had a hell of a run there for the team
he was playing.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
I forget who he was. He played Valpo. I don't
know if he played in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I thought he did, might have.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
He might have. Okay, you got one.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Jeff Shepherd. His performance a ninety eight tournament got him
drafted by the Atlanta Hawks.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Okay, you don't think anybody ever heard of Jeff Shepherd
before that? Though, well we have, I.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Don't know the rest of the country.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Was a first round pick.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Okay, now, then that's a great I didn't right, there's
no way he would have gotten draft.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
He was a sixteenth.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Bryce Drew with sixteenth in the draft. Ye wow, So
there's crazy to me.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
No, Bryce Strew is your best example, because there's no
way he would. Steph Curry was gonna get drafted. When
did Shepherd get picked? He didn't get picked the first round.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Did he? No?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I think it was late late?
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
No, If Bryce Drew was the first round pick. Then Shane,
you can tell that dude to eat it.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Go ahead and tell me eat it, dude.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
One person writes, Matt, I've heard over the years, I
know how much you disliked Ted Cruz.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
What gives you confidence he can do this.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Because he in Court Booker are both smart, So, like
I'm kind of the belief that when you can get
politics out of it. So a big problem in America
is when something's political, people like a line up on
opposite sides just to do it because they think they
need to do it. But when you get past that
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into other things, then I think smart people can come
to can come to agreements. That's why I hate what
news has become people screaming at each other, because I
do think if you get smart people in a room
and you have them work together on something they're trying
to fix, they can get past their differences and come together.
(26:42):
So take whatever you think of Ted Cruz and I'm
not a fan, and take whatever you think of Corey Booker,
and there may be people that aren't a fan. Both
guys are very smart and both guys know sports, So
Ryan you get smart people in a room and they
don't have to worry about going on Fox News or
MSNBC and screaming at each other.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
I think they can come to a resolution. So that's
why I have slight confidence.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Now what worries me is if anything happens that makes
it be political, then it becomes like who knows. But
if they can kind of do it behind closed doors
and then just come out with an agreement, I actually
think Ryan it could happen because those dudes are both
very smart.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Is this something you think that needs to be done
before football season this year?
Speaker 5 (27:33):
This year?
Speaker 4 (27:33):
No, but it needs to be done pretty quick. I
mean it needs to be done. I would say it
needs to be done before people start running for reelection
next summer, so I'm giving them a year. I think
it needs to be done before the congressional elect I
think they have like a year to get it done
because after that, once you start people campaign and then
(27:55):
stuff falls apart. I think they got like a year.
So you know, I saw that Greg Sankey and that
somebody else were playing golf with Trump. That's probably good, right, Like,
we probably need to get it done in the next year.
If we want to get it done. Who's next Steve, Steve,
go ahead, Steve.
Speaker 9 (28:18):
Hey, guys, dude for Arizona named Jason Williams. I mean
he came out of nowhere. Tell us how smart mouth.
Don't talk to the Jason Williams.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Jason Williams played in Florida and he was kicked off
the team.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Before the Williams.
Speaker 9 (28:35):
Yeah, this dude, I got the name. The guy's last
name is Williams. He played for Arizona. It's probably eight
years ago. This guy come out of nowhere. Okay, we
had an incredible tournament. But you can't talk to Shannonway.
Tell that guy can't talk to Shannon.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Colonel like that. Tell him, Steve, you can't talk to
colonel Colonel. You can't talk to a colonel.
Speaker 9 (28:58):
He's a champion.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
That's rights wrestling voice right, Absolutely great.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
I appreciate the call.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
You cannot talk to a colonel, a world radio champion.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
I can't talk to someone like that.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Nice for Shannon's brother to call in.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
It's up next, Benette, I ain't in it.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
What's up?
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Hey, Matt?
Speaker 10 (29:23):
First time, long time?
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Who?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
So?
Speaker 10 (29:27):
I have a question about the House settlement thing? Is
it twenty point five million dollars for all expenses for
sports or is that just for paying players?
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Just for paying players, the rest of the expenses can
be whatever the school wants it to be, but it's
twenty point five for only for the players.
Speaker 10 (29:45):
And do you think in larger markets, to like New
York with Saint John's, it's going to be easier for
them to pay more money because there's more money in
these bigger markets.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Well, first of all, I think the SEC and the
Big ten are going to be able to afford the
twenty point five. It's it may take them a little
while to balance their budgets, but they're gonna do it.
I think a lot of the schools in the in
the smaller conferences, they're not gonna be able to do it,
so like they're gonna be spending less money. The issue
for me is the ACC the Big twelve in the
(30:16):
Big East. Two different issues. The ACC and the Big
twelve are gonna want to spend the twenty point five,
but they don't have it, okay, so they've got to
figure out do we do it. I think some of
them are gonna do it, some of them are. I
think some of them are gonna end up taking private
equity and there's a report this morning that a couple
of them are about to announce that.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Then you got the Big East.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
The Big East is not gonna have to spend money
on football most of the teams because they don't have football,
So they can spend up to twenty point five million
and they don't have to spend money on football.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
So at Villanova, Saint John's.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
DePaul, Xavier, schools like that if they want, they can
be good at a lot of sports, and we'll just
have to see if they can raise the money to
make that happen. Because their TV deals aren't as much
as the SEC Big ten, ACC Big twelve, so they
don't have as much revenue coming in.
Speaker 10 (31:09):
Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Thank you appreciate the call.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
So you know, it's easy to say, Okay, DePaul can
spend twenty point five million dollars, Ryan, but they're not
to get that twenty point five million dollars and I
don't know where they're gonna get it because they don't
have football money coming in.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yeah, some school's got a Joe Craft or a Tyson
Chicken guy at Arkansas, but most schools do not have
that guy.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Like Xavier is a perfect example.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
In theory, Xavier can spend twenty point five million dollars,
but if you're running Xavier, you gotta be.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
Like, well, where do we get it?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Where's it coming from?
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Where's it coming from?
Speaker 4 (31:41):
And I think that's the thing that each school will
have to to figure out.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Who's next? Free bird, Free bird? What's up? Free bird?
Speaker 8 (31:49):
Hey, great Monday, fellas. I got a statement and then
a well a question leading up to another question. Did
you guys happen to see.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
Fon Baum when he was on I think you was.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
On ESPN's either Friday or Saturday. He was one hundred
percent totally totally against.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
This new.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
Decision. And that being saidy he said the nc double
A is gonna be no more so when a coin game.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Yeah, he doesn't know what he's talking about, at least
in terms I mean. I mean, I'm not trying to
be rude to it. I mean he may he may
be right one day the NCAA won't exist, but it
ain't gonna be tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Right.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
It's gonna be like when the cot when acc Big
ten all of them decide to do their own thing
in football. As far as being against it, he can
be against it if he wants, It doesn't matter. The
judges agreed to the settlement, So Paul Feinbaum is gonna
be like yell yelling into the wind.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
It doesn't matter what he thinks. Like, it's the law now.
Speaker 8 (32:50):
So if when the game comes on in the future,
like a basketball football, is it gonna say still in
c double airs is just gonna say collegiate football.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
It's gonna be in Okay, So the NCAA is still
the entity for everything but football. But remember, even now,
football's championship is not run by the NCAAA. I don't
think a lot of people realize that the college Football
Playoff is not run by the NCAA. The NCAA runs
all the other sports, but the college football Playoff is
(33:20):
run by the conferences. So it'll still be the case
that these schools have to follow the NCAA rules.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
But when it comes to football.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Do I think one day there could be a day
where the football schools all do their own thing completely? Yeah,
but I don't think it's tomorrow. I think there's gonna
be a few years like this. If Congress doesn't pass
a bill, then I think what's gonna happen is the
schools will say, all right, we tried and now we're
gonna do our own thing.
Speaker 8 (33:49):
So these do these kids still have to come up
with the prerequisites to play in college as far as great.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
I mean in theory.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
In theory, yes, but I don't know that anybody ever
enforces that anymore.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
To be honest with you, Hey, thanks for taking.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
My appreciate the call.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
In theory, yes, I think what has happened over the
years is what Jay Billis has always advocated, which is Ryan,
each school just gets to decide who they let in
the school, rather than the NCAA saying you got to
have this act score. Basically, they go to every school
and say, if you want to let them in, you
can let them in. And you know what most schools do, Ryan,
They let them in.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
They let them in, especially if they're a five star
point guard and can play, they are coming in.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
And I actually think that's probably what should happen. Like
in some respect, who is the NCAA to tell the
University of Kentucky who they need to let in the school, Like,
you know, we don't do that in anything else. We
don't say, Shannon, you you better be able to play
the trumpet really well.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Before they let you in.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Right yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
People should be able to.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Let into school who they want to let in school.
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Speaker 5 (36:03):
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Is that what it is?
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Speaker 2 (36:06):
No, No, you were reading your your live read.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
I didn't want to though you would. Well, that's nice.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
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Speaker 5 (36:13):
That's very nice.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
All right, let me do a couple things I want
to make sure we get done today. First of all,
John Clay, the columnist for the unit for Lexing Hair Leader,
has worked for forty four years. It's amazing, forty four
years in Lexington as a sports reporter first and then columnist,
did UK football for a number of years, then he
(36:35):
was a columnist. I think he's extremely talented. He's in
the Basketball Hall of Fame for writers. Also really a
nice guy, A perfect example of Over the years, You've
heard me talk about how some of the people we
used to criticize then I got to know and I
realized what a good person they were.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
And John Clay is a great example.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Over the years, I would eat Chipotle back off Nicholsville Road,
that the Chipotle in the mall, and I would see
him there and I got to learn to start talking
with him, got to learn about him his son as
a fan of this show, and he it's always been
an excellent writer, but also very good to me sometimes
when he didn't have to be, because I was when
(37:20):
I was getting started, pretty harsh on not just him,
but everybody, and that was I regret some of that
in hindsight, especially for him, because I think he's he's
been like a real benefit to the University of Kentucky
sports landscape for decades.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
And his riding was always insightful. It was always I thought, informative.
He often would break stories.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
He embraced the blog world kind of before a lot
of other mainstream reporters did. And he's retiring after forty
four years at the Lexington hera leader. Ryan, I know
you've worked with him a long time. Big salute to
him a part of the UK media community that we
will miss.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Really good what you said there giving me his flowers, because
the guy deserves it. He's a Lexington legend. He's an icon.
And especially when it comes to sports reporting. You know,
we've lost Jerry Tipton and now John Clay, so the
lection and handler, the two guys I grew up reading
a lot of boll step down. But you and then
you're right, not just a very talented writer, but a
good guy. He was a good guy. He'd always would
talk to you and a hard worker.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
He always was always party butt yep yep. So yeah, uh,
congratulation he saw.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
We always talk about how I was on one of
the first UK people on Twitter, so was he. It
was like for a long time the only people you
could see right in Kentucky on Twitter were me, Pat
forty and John Clay and uh, he got into it
very very early. He was had some a lot of
forethought on this stuff. So big salute to John in
(38:52):
his retirement. Gonna miss him, uh in this neck of
the woods. Secondly, Shannon, they caught the.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Zebra I saw that, yeah, or the zebra in on
How You Where You Are?
Speaker 4 (39:02):
I thought it was kind of sweet the way they
picked him up in the little did you like they
picked him up in the little like diaper, and then.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Like a stork they picked him up like put him
up in the helicopter. I guess because you can't just
carry together the thing, right, I guess that's how they
had to do it transport.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
It was kind of kind of cute watching the little
scene for a float in the air and it's diaper
into the sky.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
What a rod that must have been just draped in that.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
I think he was knocked out, wasn't he wasn't that
the didn't they have to like SEDATEI.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
I didn't see that part.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
But but then I guess they gotta drop him off
at I guess the person's backyard or where do they
tell they like just drop him me literally drop him,
I mean, like, you know, take him back to.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Was that movie? Was it? Dumbbo drop? Was that when
they Wasn't that a movie? Dreaming?
Speaker 8 (39:47):
This?
Speaker 5 (39:47):
Wasn't there a movie about an elephant?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Maybe?
Speaker 8 (39:51):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
But anyway, where does the zebra go to after that?
Does it go to the person's back hopefully?
Speaker 5 (39:56):
Not to that person's house anymore.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
They take him to the zoo and then to patch
the hole in that fence and they take it back there.
Speaker 11 (40:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Yeah, I don't know, but glad that the zebra is safe.
That's what we like to hear. A couple of other athletes.
People brought up, Shannon to make your point. This is
a good one.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
Kenneth Farid at more Head stains.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Oh yeeah, that's a really good one because I think
he became a first round pick and played in the
NBA a long time, and I'm not sure he was
going to be a first round pick before that.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
Uh you know, there's people saying John Moran he was,
he was gonna be a first round pick. There's that was.
I don't even know. Did he win an NCAA tournament game, Ryn,
I don't think he did.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Mario's shaking his head. Yes, I don't remember him doing.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
He did, Okay, either way, he was gonna be a
high pick no matter what I think. Kenneth far Reid
is Oh, Shabba's napier. That's a good one too.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
That's a good one.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Yeah, because he played himself in I mean, they won
the national championship behind him, and even though he played
at Yukon, I don't think he was going to be
a first round pick. And Ryan he ended up being
a first round pick. Didn't really have much of an
NBA career, but that was definitely one where the NCAA
tournament helped him.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Yeah, that's a good one. He drugged Yukon too that
title game and earned himself a spot to get drafted
highly in the first round.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
Track him.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
He didn't drug him, it would have been different.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
You would have other one saying Jimmer for Dad. No,
he was good all you remember it? Like he got
hype all year? Yeah, and uh, what's his face at Gonzaga?
Adam Morrison? Because that was the whole year, right, was
it Adam Morrison or Jimmer for Dad? Who was better?
He was another one though, that was like he was known.
(41:34):
He was kind of like Steph Curry in the sense of,
you know, everybody knew who he was all year. Then
he had a great tournament. I think Kenneth Farid is
a really really good one. What was the one you said, Shannon,
I'm sorry, sorry, slipped my mind. Bryce True, those are
the two that I've heard I think were the best
examples who's next?
Speaker 5 (41:52):
Ron, Run Go ahead.
Speaker 11 (41:54):
Run, Matt, have one clear vocation of the new deal.
Let me frame it. So pre deal.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
About a minute, real quickly.
Speaker 11 (42:06):
Okay, we're not We're okay, pre deal, we're not paying
athletes twenty point five million. Post deal, we're paying twenty
point five million. Where was that money spent last year?
Speaker 4 (42:16):
Pre deal didn't exist after well, okay, it was spent
on like the reetre increasing.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
Yeah, I mean they're basically having to.
Speaker 8 (42:27):
Stream.
Speaker 11 (42:28):
Does the revenue stream increase?
Speaker 4 (42:30):
It has a little bit. Because the SEC and Big
ten signed new media deals. I've been told that about
half of this money has come in through the new
media deals. The other half had to be found elsewhere.
Speaker 11 (42:41):
Okay, so the other part of that is out of pocket.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Yeah, and a lot of these schools are having to
go in debt initially and hope they make it up
in the long term.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
So yeah, now that's a big deal. Where does this
money come from?
Speaker 4 (42:55):
It's a it's a very big deal, and some of
the schools are not gonna be able to come up
with it. It's just how it is. I'll be back
in Kentucky tomorrow. We'll see it in spin Kentucky Sports
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(01:27):
Tennessee losing was awesome. Louisville winning less awesome. We'll talk
about Murray here in just a little bit because I'm
getting behind that tonight. But it's glad to see Tennessee lose.
Louisville makes a College World Series after missing the tournament
the last two years. That makes their fans being annoying.
But otherwise, uh, it was a good week. Only one
series left. Seven different conferences have a chance to be
(01:49):
represented in the College World Series. So people said Ryan
Parody was over in college sports. Maybe not in baseball.
That may be the sport where parody still exists.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
The SEC kind of do aster rankings and everybody they're
the power conference. The day we saw teams just kind
of drop out little by little in the SEC, some
little little schools gay and.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
See, he didn't have a great. They didn't have a
great run on.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yeah, only two of the thirteen teams that made the
tournament made the College World Series. Only four even made
the Sweet sixteen. Okay, uh, we got somebody on. I'm
gonna take this call before I do the house thing.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Who's up first, Let's go to Dennis.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Dennis, go ahead, Dennis.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
All right, real quick here. As in politics, I'm glad
California doesn't speak to me. And as a UK football fan,
I'm Glass Sumrset doesn't speak to me. Uh, football is
the key.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Why do you have to throw Why do you have
to throw in the political thing?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Shannon there for you like everybody's like match, stay out
of politics. And then he breaks in with the political thing.
But I'm sure after the news last night, I understand.
But go ahead with your Summerset point.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Well anyway, I'm Glass Summer. The people in Somerset don't
speak for me. As a ukotball fan, I agree with
the sec the both the money belongs to football. It's
the one that brings in the money, the TV revenue.
The football is king. Whether UK fans like that or not,
football is king. And as a UK football fan, if
(03:18):
I ever, if I ever see where the university is
not putting as uh, it's not putting in the money
as the rest of the SEC is wanting to do.
If they're not if they're not equaling the rest of
the teams, and they are putting more money into basketball.
As a season ticket holder since ninety eight, I will
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give up my football tickets because I'm not.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Gonna Well, it's appropreciate you making appreciate you where they
don't commit.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
I understand.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Appreciate you making that point. And I was shocked by
the reaction in Somerset, I really was.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
I mean the fact that we had one person in
the entire crowd right.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Say they wanted to spend equal football money to the
rest of the SEC, and the other people either said,
we want to give a little bit more money to
basketball than the other schools, or we want to just
go all in on basketball. Appreciate the call, Dennis, I
don't know shit. Like Ryan, I was shocked by that,
to be honest with you, But it was the whole crew.
(04:21):
There were one hundred people there, one hundred and twenty
five people, and that's what they came up with.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I also was very shocked. I think the numbers may
have been a little different if five years ago come
off a ten win season, but coming off the last
couple of years, I think people were kind of a
little down on Kentucky football, and that's why they'd rather
had spend it on basketball where we're going up.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It was one percent in summerset, and I'm gonna go
ahead and assume it's one percent for people listening, because
we've only had one caller opposing what I said, and
we've got thousands upon thousands of.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Listeners, so that would be less than one percent.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Well, I think there's probably more than one. The others
might not have called.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
But I don't think it's I was shocked by the percentage,
all right. One person rights to the text machine, Matt.
I tried to read stuff, but I get bored. Can
you explain the nil House settlement for me? Like I'm
a five year old?
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Isn't that the isn't that what they say in the office?
Is that right where he exists? It's plained it to me,
like I'm a five year old.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
All right, So I'm gonna do this the easiest way
possible and the quickest way possible. Here's what happened, Friday Night,
a swimmer whose last name is House. It's not the
House of Representatives, they say the House Settlements because this
dude's last name happened to be House. He sued the
NCAA and said, look, I played sports for a long time.
You made money off me. We need to get money.
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And the settlement was basically settling the last ten years
of athletes in college sports, saying we owe you collectively
this much money. The group representing the athletes, representing the students,
and the NCAA settled. They settled for two point eight
billion dollars. Ryan, that's a lot.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Of money, two point eight billion euros.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Don't you why they only do ten years Because in
the law there's a statue of limitations that says if
you don't sue within ten years, or at least in
the state where they filed this, which was California, the
statue of limitation was ten years. So that's why athletes
before twenty fifteen don't get anything. So for people who
played before twenty fifteen, Shannon, they should have sued.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Earlier inact that was the problem.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
So that's why it's some people ask why is it
only twenty fifteen it's because of statue of limitations. So
they create this system that basically says, here's how we're
going to pay everybody from the last ten years. And
it was two point eight billion dollars and you had
to file acclaim. Im I remember when Max did it
like and you can get various people get various amounts
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of money. Some of you all listening who played sports
from twenty fifteen to twenty twenty five, you may have
gotten money or going to get money out of it.
But then as part of the settlement, they were trying
to decide the rules that are going to police college
sports going forward, and the court the judge said, look,
because athletes are not employees, I have no way to
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know what athletes want. So hey, these athletes from the
last ten years, y'all are gonna represent what athletes want
in the future. The judge was very clear, this isn't perfect,
but this is the best we can do because athletes
are not employees under American law. Yet so they did it,
and they created a system that basically says, to avoid
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lawsuits in the future, twenty zero point five million dollars
in twenty twenty five, all the way through, and it
raises to like thirty three million dollars in twenty thirty five.
You will share this money with the athletes if you want.
If you don't want to, then the athletes can individually
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bring claims against you and Ryan. You can assume that
very few schools want that right, Very few schools want
to leave the option they can get sued. So virtually
all the major schools are gonna opt into this because
they don't want to get sued right now, by the way,
they're gonna get sued anyway, and we'll talk about that
in a minute. But all these major universities have agreed,
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and it says they can spend up to twenty point
five million dollars, but they don't have to. They can
choose to spend less, but they have the option to
spend twenty point five million dollars. The reporting suggests that
every SEC school is gonna spend that amount of money. Now,
there are no limits in the settlements to how much
you can spend. You could spend all twenty point five
(08:32):
million dollars on baseball if you wanted to.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
You could spend a million dollars on each point.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Every school gets to decide themselves, so people have asked,
what about Title nine? Do you have to spend the
same on men's sports and women's sports. It's not clear,
but it's looking like the answer to that is going
to be no. Under the law, you have to spend
you have to give women equal opportunity, but not each results.
(09:01):
And over time the courts have interpreted if you give
women equal scholarship money, that's opportunity. You don't have to
give them equal results. Whether that'll always be the law,
who knows, but that's the law now. So that's why
you don't have to spend the same amount of money
on men's sports as women's sports. Football can get the
most because they bring in the most revenue. Now, so
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that's where the twenty point five million dollars comes from. Now,
the NCAA has volunteerly, and all of its schools have
volunteerily said we're gonna abide by these rules twenty point
five million. So what keeps a school from spending more? Well,
the NCAA has hired a private accounting firm. Right, are
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you following me so far? Is this making sense?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I'm doing a good job kind of hanging in there.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
A private accounting firm to determine that any money over
the twenty point five million dollars it's given you have
to do work for for it. So, Shannon, if I
sign you to a deal for five hundred thousand dollars,
you're gonna have to prove to this accounting firm you
did five hundred thousand dollars worth of work for me?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Got it?
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Now, that doesn't mean work like you went and worked
on a road. It can be a commercial. But the
accounting firm is gonna say, is the work Shannon did?
Did the work Shannon do? Was it worth the money
you gave him? You can't overpay them just to give
him money.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Is that where the fair market value comes in?
Speaker 5 (10:27):
That's the fair market value?
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Yes, so they're gonna determine you give otaga Oway five
hundred thousand dollars, was it worth five hundred thousand what
he did for you?
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Now? How do they come up with that? Great question?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
But that's what accounting firms do. They look and see
what everybody else is getting paid. They look and see
what celebrities and other worlds get paid, and they determine
ryan is that equivalent. That's gonna be a huge decision,
Like how much is an Otaga commercial worth? What do
you think, Ryan, how much do you think it's worth
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a company to run a commercial with Otega away in it.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Well, in the election market, that was gonna be a
lot different than in the Chicago, La New York market,
you know, you.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Who knows and the But these accounting firms, that's their
job to figure out. And the NCAA has said whatever
the accounting firm says, goes okay. So that's the system. Now,
could somebody sue and challenge the system? I think the
answer to that is yes, So how do you make
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sure that system holds up? This is where they're going
to Congress, and specifically they're going to Ted Cruz and
Corey Booker. They're the ones running this and saying, hey,
Ted Cruise and Corey Booker, this case representative of athletes
agreed to it. The NCAAA agreed to it. Make this
case law. Make this case law, and then we can
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govern college sports for the next ten years, or for
the next twenty years, next hire many years. And that's
where it is. They are now going to Congress and saying,
please make this law.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Now.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
The problem is, as if you follow the news, Congress
is fighting about a lot of other stuff.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Now will they make this a priority? Who knows.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
In order for it to pass, it's gonna have to
have Democratic votes too, because you have to get sixty
votes in the Senate, which is why the Democrats and
Republicans have to work together.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
But the future at college.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Sports is in the hands of Corey Booker and Ted
Cruz because they're the ones taking the lead on it,
and the NCAA is hoping that they will make law
what this court just did on Friday night, and that's
where we are right now. This will be the rules
for at least the next couple years. Somebody's gonna challenge them.
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And it's up to Congress now Ryan to make law
what that judge approved on Friday night, and we'll see
if they do it.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
It's definitely like the biggest change in college athletics in
our lifetime.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I mean, this is without it's the biggest change since integration.
That's what I say, the biggest change since college sports
got integrated. I think this is the biggest change since then.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
It just seems like when you hear explain it, it
would gonna be hard for this accounting from the police.
What is acceptable and what's not acceptable?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Because you're the judge, somebody is willing to pay, you know, yes, but.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
They're gonna have to say, Okay, here's how they're because
the judge asked these questions. And what the accounting firm
said is, we're gonna look around and see are you
given what everybody else would give? So oddly, they're trying
to make it Ryan, to where if Kentucky gives it,
then the guy might make a similar amount of money
in Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Ohio, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
So the goal is almost to make it to where
all the schools can kind of give the same amount
of money and we'll see what it is.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Now. Is that gonna work?
Speaker 4 (13:53):
I don't know, But the accounting firm convinced the judge
that they could create standards that would be consistent.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
And Ryan, we're gonna have to wait and see who was.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
His accounting firm. They've been giving a lot of power.
It seems like now.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
The counting firm has a ton of five power. It's
called Deloitt. I don't know anybody that works at Deloitte.
Actually I do know one person that works at Deloitte,
but I don't know many. But they will be the one.
Apparently they have taken a set of their employees. Think
about this, Shannon, that they have like a set of
like one hundred employees that their whole job will be
to review these cases. So Deloitte has become extremely powerful. Yeah,
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and I don't think power.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I sense a future guest on the Matt Jones podcast.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I don't know if they can talk about it, but
what we need is a Kentucky fan working at Deloitte. Alright,
Deloitte has become the most important to the most important
accounting firm in America if you like college sports, So
that's where it is. If you have questions, I'm glad
to answer them. But that is the five year old,
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big exture version of what happened on Friday Night.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
I think the three most important things in college sports.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Have ever happened. What was integration? Title nine? And now
this no doubt and this will govern the next twenty years.
But Deloitte and Ted Cruz and Corey Booker are kind
of the most important parts of this. The NCAA has
voluntarily given up a lot of power rhyme. You know,
(15:28):
we used always complain about the NCAA. They've given up
a ton of power. It is now Deloitte and Congress.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
That's where we are.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, surprise the NCAA would give up that power because for.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Years they didn't have a choice.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
They really didn't have a choice because they've been doing
something that's basically illegal, true for one hundred years, so
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Speaker 4 (16:25):
We gotta find a Kentucky fan that works at Deloit.
Amen sneak in, Shannon right now. Tell them to approve
all the Kentucky ones and disapprove all the Tennessee ones.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, then you'd have a whole scandal on your hands.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
Good, that's what we need.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
We don't need a scandal.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
We need it. We'll take it. Break right back to KOSHR.
Welcome back in is Kentucky Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
If I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven,
listen Deloitte office Ryan in Louisville and Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Oh, maybe we've got some read.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
It works there. Sure have to, Shannon, there's got to
be a listener that works in one of those.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Let's hope he's not a love fan, because you think
they're committed.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
We can't have at.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
The committee's gonna be from all across the the United States.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
I'm sure they'll do somethinghere like they decide the Kentucky
deals in California.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
You know what I mean. I'm sure they'll probably Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
No, one person writes, Matt, Can the University of Kentucky
hire an athlete to do a commercial?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
No, that's part of the agreement.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
The university cannot has to be a private entity or
business that Joe Craft could do it. So Joe Craft
could could sign you know, Otago Way to do a commercial,
but he'll have to prove Ryan to Deloitte that he's
paying him what he's worth for what he's doing.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
That's where I say it's gonna be hard to police that,
I think, because there's every mark.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
What Deloitte's there for. And the judge I followed this.
I read the judge's opinion. She did an amazing job.
She asked all of these questions. She was like, you
got to prove to me that you can police this fairly.
And again I didn't see what the Lloyd said, but
Shannon apparently they said enough that she believed they could
do it.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
See, yeah, you're putting a lot of trust in put.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
A lot of pressure on these private companies, you know,
to uh to make this decision. One person rides Matt.
As soon as somebody's deal gets rejected, they will sue.
I'm not I'm certain of it. Yes, they will, which
is why they got to have Congress pass this law.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
This settlement is only.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Going to work for a year or two. Somebody's gonna sue.
They need Congress to pass this law. And I am
not a fan of Ted Cruz, and I'm sure there's
some people listening that are not a fan of Corey Booker.
But we need to hope those two dudes do it
because we love this sport. Everybody listening loves college athletics.
(18:43):
That's why you listen. Probably we need these two dudes
to do it, and I will give a big handshake
to both of them if they can pull it off,
because it's necessary. You know, the presidents people have suggested
that they're leaving it to them. They they talked about
a commission, but apparently they pulled the plug on that.
So it's these guys. And then it's a group of
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people in the house that includes Morgan McGarvey, who I
started working with a Frost Brown Todd, who is a
Kentucky fan and who I've known for twenty five years.
He's in the group in the house working on it.
But really it's Corey Booker and Ted Cruz, so cross
your fingers. Those two dudes make it work. I'm nine
two eighty seven.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Who's next? Bode boo day? How are you.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
Hey, man? How are you man?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
I'm good?
Speaker 7 (19:33):
Thank thank you, thank you, thank you for bringing the
little show to the summer set Friday Man and spreading
a little good cheer and dude, Alice Blue jay On
tore it up.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Yeah, I heard you say that on the pre show.
You you really believe that You've called twice for that.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
What I had to when you said, Noboddy's on the
phone and hear it, Shannon, your official autogram from here
on out for Alice will gown. You need to sign it.
Colonel the dude.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Well, we're all Kentucky courtles now, so that's exciting. Well, Boodet,
thank you very much, and thank you all for coming
out to the show. There was a we had a
ton of people for our show. I know your show
went well that night, right, Shannon.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah, yeah, good crowd and a lot of fun. So really,
I appreciate everybody for that very.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Cool place there in uh in Somerset, the Virginia and
thank you. That was one of the better June crowds
we've ever had for a remote. It was awesome. I mean,
maybe the biggest in a few years. So thank you
all very much to all those people that came out. Ryan,
you're excited for Murray State tonight play. D Wait, this
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is a chance. I mean, this is like a historic
chance for Murray State. This team had not won a
game in the NCAA Tournament since nineteen seventy nine. In baseball,
the other seven people, other seven teams in the College
World Series are decided. All that's left is Murray State
and Duke. The whole country will be watching this game, literally,
the whole country. It's the only game on. You gotta
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think everybody in America's rooting for Murray State, right right?
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Isn't everybody rooting for Murray State?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Then you got to, man, because Duke is like the
evil Empire over there, and Murray State scored nineteen runs
yesterday and all eyes of the baseball world is on
that game tonight at Duke. Game three, loser goes home,
winner goes to the College World Series.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Help me understand something, Shaneon I don't know if you've
watched Murray State play, but I would think at Murray State,
they don't probably have a lot of major league prospects. Right,
they have played against Old Miss, Georgia Tech, and Duke
in this tournament, all teams in major conferences, and they
have scored against Old Miss, Georgia Tech, and Duke over
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ten runs in four.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Of their eight games. How is that possible?
Speaker 4 (21:53):
How is this team so good at hitting that they
can score nineteen runs?
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Like? What do they do?
Speaker 8 (21:59):
That?
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Make? To where? And why don't other teams do it?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I think that maybe they do have some Major League
Baseball prospects, especially if they're watching these games. Well, I
mean maybe that you know, you see it in the
NCAA tournament in basketball all the time, a guy you
never heard of goes off in the tournament. Next thing
you know, he's drafted by the NBA. So you know,
maybe you do have some guys that will end up
in the MLB draft.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Right? What do they do? I mean, like how do
they score?
Speaker 4 (22:22):
They scored like sixteen against Old Miss, fourteen against Georgia Tech,
nineteen against.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Duke, Like what what do they do?
Speaker 8 (22:31):
Do?
Speaker 5 (22:31):
They just like chop the ball and help people mess up?
Like what do they do?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I don't know who deserves the credited coach Kirka who
came out with us or they're hitting coach, but somebody
obviously he's got some magic working. And these guys are
just not intimidated. They went to Oxford, you know, one
of the best programs in the country, and beat Ole
Miss on their home field. Now they beat Duke in
a super regional on their home field. These guys are
just not intimidated by anybody.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Well, I'm gonna watch the game tonight and I listen,
I'm pulling for Murray State going. I saw there's a
college baseball podcast that I listened to on my drive
down and they said, if Murray State makes the College
World Series, it'll be the biggest upset in the history
college baseball.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
That's what they said. That's an amazing But that's an
amazing statement, is yeah, yeah of college baseball.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
For them to go to I mean a four C
with the you know, it's amazing. So go Murray State.
I hope they win, and I hopefully that's what we're
talking about tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
We'll take a break. Be right back SKSR. TJ Smith
personal injury attorney call TJ. He'll make them pay.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
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Speaker 4 (23:39):
Here's Matt Jones, Walterback Turkey Sports Radio A five nine
two twenty two eighty seven. The Murray State game is
on ESPN tonight, So it's on regular ESPN. That's cool
for that program, just to get to that, Ryan be
on regular ESPN. How many times you think Murray State
baseball has ever played on regular ESPN?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Never ever ever had been on Probably never, Yeah, ESPN
nine maybe or something like that. Never been on the
main channel.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
I bet they've never been on there.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And their basketball team to be on the regular yeah, yes, team.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
They've probably only been on there a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
True.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
And now and now to have their baseball team on there,
that's gotta be awesome. One person, right, Shannon said, you
hear about it all the time. A player goes off
in the NCAA tournament then gets drafted in the NBA.
I'm throwing the challenge flag. Could Shannon name one example?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Steph Curry?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Well, Steph Curry was going to be a first round
pick anyway, but you're right, he got he became more prominent.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Well you didn't, but he was on draft boards. Now
he did rise.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I think that's fair, but but he was probably gonna
be a first round pick anyway.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Can you get any others? I'm on your side here.
I want you to get one.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Bryce Drew didn't he play in the NBA and he
had a hell of a run there for the team
he was playing.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
I forget who he was. He played Valpo. I don't
know if he played in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I thought he did, might have.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
He might have. Okay, you got one.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Jeff Shepherd. His performance a ninety eight tournament got him
drafted by the Atlanta Hawks.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Okay, you don't think anybody ever heard of Jeff Shepherd
before that? Though, well we have, I.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Don't know the rest of the country.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Was a first round pick.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Okay, now, then that's a great I didn't right, there's
no way he would have gotten draft.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
He was a sixteenth.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Bryce Drew with sixteenth in the draft. Ye wow, So
there's crazy to me.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
No, Bryce Strew is your best example, because there's no
way he would. Steph Curry was gonna get drafted. When
did Shepherd get picked? He didn't get picked the first round.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Did he? No?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I think it was late late?
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
No, If Bryce Drew was the first round pick. Then Shane,
you can tell that dude to eat it.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Go ahead and tell me eat it, dude.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
One person writes, Matt, I've heard over the years, I
know how much you disliked Ted Cruz.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
What gives you confidence he can do this.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Because he in Court Booker are both smart, So, like
I'm kind of the belief that when you can get
politics out of it. So a big problem in America
is when something's political, people like a line up on
opposite sides just to do it because they think they
need to do it. But when you get past that
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into other things, then I think smart people can come
to can come to agreements. That's why I hate what
news has become people screaming at each other, because I
do think if you get smart people in a room
and you have them work together on something they're trying
to fix, they can get past their differences and come together.
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So take whatever you think of Ted Cruz and I'm
not a fan, and take whatever you think of Corey Booker,
and there may be people that aren't a fan. Both
guys are very smart and both guys know sports, So
Ryan you get smart people in a room and they
don't have to worry about going on Fox News or
MSNBC and screaming at each other.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
I think they can come to a resolution. So that's
why I have slight confidence.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Now what worries me is if anything happens that makes
it be political, then it becomes like who knows. But
if they can kind of do it behind closed doors
and then just come out with an agreement, I actually
think Ryan it could happen because those dudes are both
very smart.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Is this something you think that needs to be done
before football season this year?
Speaker 5 (27:33):
This year?
Speaker 4 (27:33):
No, but it needs to be done pretty quick. I
mean it needs to be done. I would say it
needs to be done before people start running for reelection
next summer, so I'm giving them a year. I think
it needs to be done before the congressional elect I
think they have like a year to get it done
because after that, once you start people campaign and then
(27:55):
stuff falls apart. I think they got like a year.
So you know, I saw that Greg Sankey and that
somebody else were playing golf with Trump. That's probably good, right, Like,
we probably need to get it done in the next year.
If we want to get it done. Who's next Steve, Steve,
go ahead, Steve.
Speaker 9 (28:18):
Hey, guys, dude for Arizona named Jason Williams. I mean
he came out of nowhere. Tell us how smart mouth.
Don't talk to the Jason Williams.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Jason Williams played in Florida and he was kicked off
the team.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Before the Williams.
Speaker 9 (28:35):
Yeah, this dude, I got the name. The guy's last
name is Williams. He played for Arizona. It's probably eight
years ago. This guy come out of nowhere. Okay, we
had an incredible tournament. But you can't talk to Shannonway.
Tell that guy can't talk to Shannon.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Colonel like that. Tell him, Steve, you can't talk to
colonel Colonel. You can't talk to a colonel.
Speaker 9 (28:58):
He's a champion.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
That's rights wrestling voice right, Absolutely great.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
I appreciate the call.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
You cannot talk to a colonel, a world radio champion.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
I can't talk to someone like that.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Nice for Shannon's brother to call in.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
It's up next, Benette, I ain't in it.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
What's up?
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Hey, Matt?
Speaker 10 (29:23):
First time, long time?
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Who?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
So?
Speaker 10 (29:27):
I have a question about the House settlement thing? Is
it twenty point five million dollars for all expenses for
sports or is that just for paying players?
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Just for paying players, the rest of the expenses can
be whatever the school wants it to be, but it's
twenty point five for only for the players.
Speaker 10 (29:45):
And do you think in larger markets, to like New
York with Saint John's, it's going to be easier for
them to pay more money because there's more money in
these bigger markets.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Well, first of all, I think the SEC and the
Big ten are going to be able to afford the
twenty point five. It's it may take them a little
while to balance their budgets, but they're gonna do it.
I think a lot of the schools in the in
the smaller conferences, they're not gonna be able to do it,
so like they're gonna be spending less money. The issue
for me is the ACC the Big twelve in the
(30:16):
Big East. Two different issues. The ACC and the Big
twelve are gonna want to spend the twenty point five,
but they don't have it, okay, so they've got to
figure out do we do it. I think some of
them are gonna do it, some of them are. I
think some of them are gonna end up taking private
equity and there's a report this morning that a couple
of them are about to announce that.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Then you got the Big East.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
The Big East is not gonna have to spend money
on football most of the teams because they don't have football,
So they can spend up to twenty point five million
and they don't have to spend money on football.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
So at Villanova, Saint John's.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
DePaul, Xavier, schools like that if they want, they can
be good at a lot of sports, and we'll just
have to see if they can raise the money to
make that happen. Because their TV deals aren't as much
as the SEC Big ten, ACC Big twelve, so they
don't have as much revenue coming in.
Speaker 10 (31:09):
Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Thank you appreciate the call.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
So you know, it's easy to say, Okay, DePaul can
spend twenty point five million dollars, Ryan, but they're not
to get that twenty point five million dollars and I
don't know where they're gonna get it because they don't
have football money coming in.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yeah, some school's got a Joe Craft or a Tyson
Chicken guy at Arkansas, but most schools do not have
that guy.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Like Xavier is a perfect example.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
In theory, Xavier can spend twenty point five million dollars,
but if you're running Xavier, you gotta be.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
Like, well, where do we get it?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Where's it coming from?
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Where's it coming from?
Speaker 4 (31:41):
And I think that's the thing that each school will
have to to figure out.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Who's next? Free bird, Free bird? What's up? Free bird?
Speaker 8 (31:49):
Hey, great Monday, fellas. I got a statement and then
a well a question leading up to another question. Did
you guys happen to see.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
Fon Baum when he was on I think you was.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
On ESPN's either Friday or Saturday. He was one hundred
percent totally totally against.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
This new.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
Decision. And that being saidy he said the nc double
A is gonna be no more so when a coin game.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Yeah, he doesn't know what he's talking about, at least
in terms I mean. I mean, I'm not trying to
be rude to it. I mean he may he may
be right one day the NCAA won't exist, but it
ain't gonna be tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Right.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
It's gonna be like when the cot when acc Big
ten all of them decide to do their own thing
in football. As far as being against it, he can
be against it if he wants, It doesn't matter. The
judges agreed to the settlement, So Paul Feinbaum is gonna
be like yell yelling into the wind.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
It doesn't matter what he thinks. Like, it's the law now.
Speaker 8 (32:50):
So if when the game comes on in the future,
like a basketball football, is it gonna say still in
c double airs is just gonna say collegiate football.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
It's gonna be in Okay, So the NCAA is still
the entity for everything but football. But remember, even now,
football's championship is not run by the NCAAA. I don't
think a lot of people realize that the college Football
Playoff is not run by the NCAA. The NCAA runs
all the other sports, but the college football Playoff is
(33:20):
run by the conferences. So it'll still be the case
that these schools have to follow the NCAA rules.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
But when it comes to football.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Do I think one day there could be a day
where the football schools all do their own thing completely? Yeah,
but I don't think it's tomorrow. I think there's gonna
be a few years like this. If Congress doesn't pass
a bill, then I think what's gonna happen is the
schools will say, all right, we tried and now we're
gonna do our own thing.
Speaker 8 (33:49):
So these do these kids still have to come up
with the prerequisites to play in college as far as great.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
I mean in theory.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
In theory, yes, but I don't know that anybody ever
enforces that anymore.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
To be honest with you, Hey, thanks for taking.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
My appreciate the call.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
In theory, yes, I think what has happened over the
years is what Jay Billis has always advocated, which is Ryan,
each school just gets to decide who they let in
the school, rather than the NCAA saying you got to
have this act score. Basically, they go to every school
and say, if you want to let them in, you
can let them in. And you know what most schools do, Ryan,
They let them in.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
They let them in, especially if they're a five star
point guard and can play, they are coming in.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
And I actually think that's probably what should happen. Like
in some respect, who is the NCAA to tell the
University of Kentucky who they need to let in the school, Like,
you know, we don't do that in anything else. We
don't say, Shannon, you you better be able to play
the trumpet really well.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Before they let you in.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Right yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
People should be able to.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Let into school who they want to let in school.
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Speaker 5 (36:03):
Souse? You don't when I couldn't play it in the background?
Is that what it is?
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Speaker 2 (36:06):
No, No, you were reading your your live read.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
I didn't want to though you would. Well, that's nice.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I wanted to bury you with the music.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
That's very nice.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
All right, let me do a couple things I want
to make sure we get done today. First of all,
John Clay, the columnist for the unit for Lexing Hair Leader,
has worked for forty four years. It's amazing, forty four
years in Lexington as a sports reporter first and then columnist,
did UK football for a number of years, then he
(36:35):
was a columnist. I think he's extremely talented. He's in
the Basketball Hall of Fame for writers. Also really a
nice guy, A perfect example of Over the years, You've
heard me talk about how some of the people we
used to criticize then I got to know and I
realized what a good person they were.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
And John Clay is a great example.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Over the years, I would eat Chipotle back off Nicholsville Road,
that the Chipotle in the mall, and I would see
him there and I got to learn to start talking
with him, got to learn about him his son as
a fan of this show, and he it's always been
an excellent writer, but also very good to me sometimes
when he didn't have to be, because I was when
(37:20):
I was getting started, pretty harsh on not just him,
but everybody, and that was I regret some of that
in hindsight, especially for him, because I think he's he's
been like a real benefit to the University of Kentucky
sports landscape for decades.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
And his riding was always insightful. It was always I thought, informative.
He often would break stories.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
He embraced the blog world kind of before a lot
of other mainstream reporters did. And he's retiring after forty
four years at the Lexington hera leader. Ryan, I know
you've worked with him a long time. Big salute to
him a part of the UK media community that we
will miss.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Really good what you said there giving me his flowers, because
the guy deserves it. He's a Lexington legend. He's an icon.
And especially when it comes to sports reporting. You know,
we've lost Jerry Tipton and now John Clay, so the
lection and handler, the two guys I grew up reading
a lot of boll step down. But you and then
you're right, not just a very talented writer, but a
good guy. He was a good guy. He'd always would
talk to you and a hard worker.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
He always was always party butt yep yep. So yeah, uh,
congratulation he saw.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
We always talk about how I was on one of
the first UK people on Twitter, so was he. It
was like for a long time the only people you
could see right in Kentucky on Twitter were me, Pat
forty and John Clay and uh, he got into it
very very early. He was had some a lot of
forethought on this stuff. So big salute to John in
(38:52):
his retirement. Gonna miss him, uh in this neck of
the woods. Secondly, Shannon, they caught the.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Zebra I saw that, yeah, or the zebra in on
How You Where You Are?
Speaker 4 (39:02):
I thought it was kind of sweet the way they
picked him up in the little did you like they
picked him up in the little like diaper, and then.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Like a stork they picked him up like put him
up in the helicopter. I guess because you can't just
carry together the thing, right, I guess that's how they
had to do it transport.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
It was kind of kind of cute watching the little
scene for a float in the air and it's diaper
into the sky.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
What a rod that must have been just draped in that.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
I think he was knocked out, wasn't he wasn't that
the didn't they have to like SEDATEI.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
I didn't see that part.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
But but then I guess they gotta drop him off
at I guess the person's backyard or where do they
tell they like just drop him me literally drop him,
I mean, like, you know, take him back to.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Was that movie? Was it? Dumbbo drop? Was that when
they Wasn't that a movie? Dreaming?
Speaker 8 (39:47):
This?
Speaker 5 (39:47):
Wasn't there a movie about an elephant?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Maybe?
Speaker 8 (39:51):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
But anyway, where does the zebra go to after that?
Does it go to the person's back hopefully?
Speaker 5 (39:56):
Not to that person's house anymore.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
They take him to the zoo and then to patch
the hole in that fence and they take it back there.
Speaker 11 (40:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Yeah, I don't know, but glad that the zebra is safe.
That's what we like to hear. A couple of other athletes.
People brought up, Shannon to make your point. This is
a good one.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
Kenneth Farid at more Head stains.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Oh yeeah, that's a really good one because I think
he became a first round pick and played in the
NBA a long time, and I'm not sure he was
going to be a first round pick before that.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
Uh you know, there's people saying John Moran he was,
he was gonna be a first round pick. There's that was.
I don't even know. Did he win an NCAA tournament game, Ryn,
I don't think he did.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Mario's shaking his head. Yes, I don't remember him doing.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
He did, Okay, either way, he was gonna be a
high pick no matter what I think. Kenneth far Reid
is Oh, Shabba's napier. That's a good one too.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
That's a good one.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Yeah, because he played himself in I mean, they won
the national championship behind him, and even though he played
at Yukon, I don't think he was going to be
a first round pick. And Ryan he ended up being
a first round pick. Didn't really have much of an
NBA career, but that was definitely one where the NCAA
tournament helped him.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Yeah, that's a good one. He drugged Yukon too that
title game and earned himself a spot to get drafted
highly in the first round.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
Track him.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
He didn't drug him, it would have been different.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
You would have other one saying Jimmer for Dad. No,
he was good all you remember it? Like he got
hype all year? Yeah, and uh, what's his face at Gonzaga?
Adam Morrison? Because that was the whole year, right, was
it Adam Morrison or Jimmer for Dad? Who was better?
He was another one though, that was like he was known.
(41:34):
He was kind of like Steph Curry in the sense of,
you know, everybody knew who he was all year. Then
he had a great tournament. I think Kenneth Farid is
a really really good one. What was the one you said, Shannon,
I'm sorry, sorry, slipped my mind. Bryce True, those are
the two that I've heard I think were the best
examples who's next?
Speaker 5 (41:52):
Ron, Run Go ahead.
Speaker 11 (41:54):
Run, Matt, have one clear vocation of the new deal.
Let me frame it. So pre deal.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
About a minute, real quickly.
Speaker 11 (42:06):
Okay, we're not We're okay, pre deal, we're not paying
athletes twenty point five million. Post deal, we're paying twenty
point five million. Where was that money spent last year?
Speaker 4 (42:16):
Pre deal didn't exist after well, okay, it was spent
on like the reetre increasing.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
Yeah, I mean they're basically having to.
Speaker 8 (42:27):
Stream.
Speaker 11 (42:28):
Does the revenue stream increase?
Speaker 4 (42:30):
It has a little bit. Because the SEC and Big
ten signed new media deals. I've been told that about
half of this money has come in through the new
media deals. The other half had to be found elsewhere.
Speaker 11 (42:41):
Okay, so the other part of that is out of pocket.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Yeah, and a lot of these schools are having to
go in debt initially and hope they make it up
in the long term.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
So yeah, now that's a big deal. Where does this
money come from?
Speaker 4 (42:55):
It's a it's a very big deal, and some of
the schools are not gonna be able to come up
with it. It's just how it is. I'll be back
in Kentucky tomorrow. We'll see it in spin Kentucky Sports
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