2025-11-12- KSR - Hour 2

Matt, Ryan, Drew, and Shannon talk Kentucky's loss to Louisville and take your calls.

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Speaker 4 (01:05):
Welcome back out number two here Tucky Sports Radio EF.
I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven text
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Had great crowd here last night for the game. People
were into it. I was told when the game ended though,
it looked like Night of the Walking Dead walking out
of here, like everybody just looks so sad. They left

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at the same moment, just depressed.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Nick said, it was a great crowd. People even sitting
on the patio. They stayed till the end of the game.
When the game was over, they had their head down
and did not talk and say a word to anybody
and just walked out.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
I get it. I mean that's kind of how I felt,
you know, towards the end as well. It was. It's tough,
but you know what. We move on next game when
the football game play Eastern Illinois. They lost to Notre
Dame by twenty last night, so we played them on Friday.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
I do hate that this pulled us out of the
BBN United tip Off Classic to get distracted right before
the chain on Friday. That has not been lost on you.
But I will say it did help swallow the pill
of losing the Louisville that it was kind of a blowout.
I mean, it's not like they hit the Edgar Sosa
shot at the end of the game to steal it.
I was ready for it about five minutes into the game.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
See that's interesting. I have the opposite view. I was
kind of prepared to lose the game. What bothers me
about the game is how bad we were down most
of the game. I mean, I that's what I mean.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
I had two hours to know the opposite. It wasn't
like that was just at the end. Something happened, and
I had two hours of getting used to knowing how
it was gonna end.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I really thought they were gonna run us off the
floor there for a minute.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Well they were. They did run us off the floor
for a while. They ran us off the floor twice,
and we came back. But to you know, to Kentucky's credit,
I mean they were twice. That game was a twenty
point game, and both times we did fight back. I mean,
I do give them credit for that. That's there are
teams we've had, you know, we saw that stat Kentucky

(02:58):
hadn't won a game where they were down twenty in
like sixteen years or something. That was kind of an
interesting stat That's.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Why I about that one possession. You cut it all
the way down to four, You have the ball, your
point guard, your leaders got it, run the offense, get
a good shot, and he jacks up one from the logo.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
I forgot to share my Corey Price out of the
day earlier, because yeah, it is not good. There's a
lot to it. Let me just read it directly. But
he says, and he doesn't lie. Otega Away last night
was the only Kentucky player over the last twenty years
to have five fouls, five turnovers, shoot worse than thirty
five percent from the field and worse than twenty percent

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from three.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
So he's saying like Otago Away had one of the
all time bad that was.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
One of the worst game and was pulled off the
floor in late game situation.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
That's the thing. That's if you would say, was there
a game last last year where Otega Away was not
on the floor now utch.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Time probably I went to him and crunch time.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
And he was pulled off the floor for a lot
of the end of the game. And when he was
in missed a wide open three towards the end. So
that's surprising, very surprising. Now, one person rights, Matt, I
don't know why you're so upset. You guys are acting
like it's the end of the world. We played a
top fifteen team on their home floor, got their best
effort and only lost by eight. Okay, I actually don't

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disagree with that if it was a back and forth game,
but we were we got destroyed for part of the game.
Now we did come back and we had a chance.
I mean to be honest, you go the final TV timeout,
it's a four point game and we have the ball.
That's not bad, But I think you do have to
consider though, how you got there. In the process of
talking about it.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
What was that that that play that Low had the
four point play and I think gave us the lead.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
That was crazy, got fouled on a three three.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, But then didn't they go on something like a
nineteen to two run after that? I think that's where
we kind of let the game slip away?

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Was it? When was that?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
It was like midway through the first half and Low
hit the four po ahead and they just went on
a hell of a.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Round that was That was where I was talking about.
It was that that was where the went on that.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
That's where they really lost the game right there.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Yeah. By the way, we have trivia tonight. I'm finishing
the questions this afternoon, So get your team, come on
out here and join us for trivia. Should be a
fun night. You know, usually this would be a good
chance to win one. Sometimes when we lose the next night,
people are kind of sad and they don't come out
as much. So this would be a good night to
come in. You might even if your team stinks, you
could maybe become a finalist based on this. Would be

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a good time, Ryan Lemon, to actually have your team
be able to move on.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Oh, Ryan, the dream team is ready to roll. I
even picked up a new ringer to join us tonight,
Beingles Paul.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Oh Beingles Paul. Okay, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
And he claimed self proclaimed a great trivia.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
I bet he is. Actually. Pat Kelsey dislocated his finger
in the celebration of the game.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
I saw him in postgame head it all bandaged up.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
He said it like went to a ninety degree angle
because he got it caught. He tried to give somebody
a high five and he got it caught on a curtain.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
Yeahs coaches assistant coaches were chasing him, kind of doing
that run around thing like you doing soccer or baseball
where you're running from your guys, and broke it running
from his coaches. I wish you know, I hate complimenting them,
but you know, he went and jumped in the student section.
It looked like quite then.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
They should be Yeah, they should be very happy, like
they should be. That's a that's a huge win for them.
I'm gonna go right back to Louisville, Kentucky, but I
want to give you I'm gonna throw you out the
topic all right, and we're gonna discuss it tomorrow. But
I want to give you a chance to ruminate on it. Okay,
I want to give you a chance to marinate, because Ryan,

(06:35):
I feel like your brain needs to marinate this. Here's
the question. I just read an article about this. I
think it's fascinating that all across the world there's debates
happening and you need to tell me which side. Not today,
but tomorrow you think you should be. Question is, should people,
when they are born have a right to know who

(07:00):
their biological parents are? By meaning what I mean by
that is, should the government give them a right to
do a DNA test to find out if their biological
parents are their actual parents? Okay, so in this world
of like twenty three and me, although I don't even
know if that thing exists, but those kinds of things,

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people are like doing the test and then they realize
this person they thought there was their dad their whole
life turns out they're not, maybe because the mom had
another relationship or whatever, and like there was an article
in New York about how it's disrupting their lives, but
some of them believe they should have a right to

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know it, et cetera. Do you think that there should
be a right to know who you're who your DNA?
And then also think about how that would apply to
sperm banks and things like that.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
You know that hit home with me. This hits home
with me when my three boys are all adopted. So
I got a lot to think of it.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
So do they have a right to like petition to
get the government to help them find out? You know?
And you could see the arguments on either side. So
you marinate on that, I want you? Are you marinating?

Speaker 2 (08:09):
I'm probably marinated too much?

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Okay, well not get back to the show. I don't
want you to make you marinate off the off the
All right, who's up next, Zach, Zach? Go ahead, Zach.

Speaker 6 (08:21):
Hey, guys, just wanted to make a quick comment. I
think Otaga has to adopt a more of a kid
Gil Chris type of mindset because his shot is just atrocious. Right,
Like MKG had this massive motor and great just presence
on the floor, but he also put his head down
and just drove the ball and created so much offense.

(08:42):
And I think Otaga has to use that to his
advantage because he can't shoot the ball, but he's got
to be able to play the defense and use his
strength to his ability.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Don't disagree with you appreciate the call. J Billis apparently
said during the game that when he went through the
NBA process, the scouts told Otega you gotta get better
shooting three and actually suggested changing his form. Does that,
in hindsight look like that might not have helped.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Didn't Mark Pope say he doesn't change forms? So is
I know Oway wants to show off he has a three,
but if that's not part of Pope's plan.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
But it is a different form. I mean, I'd like
maybe somebody could put back to back the shots from
last year in this one. But it is a different form.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
I don't even know if we can call it form
he and debote both. We'll call it very unconventionation.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
I studied diabate in in warmups. His form is even
worse than I realized. When he's not shooting in traffic,
he's shooting from his nipple with a hitch. Yeah, like
he's bringing it down from his side and like taking
it up to his nipple, and then he's on the
side and he's and he's not even.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
She He's pushing it like a pushot.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
It's it. It is potentially one of the weirdest forms
I've ever seen. Now, sometimes in the course of play
he's trying to get it off quicker, so he doesn't
do it. But watch him if you go to a game,
watch him in warmups. He has this like he reminds
me of my grandfather shooting like my grand except my
grandfather sometimes Granny shot. But he takes the ball and
he takes it like in a loop and then takes

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it up to like his right nipple. Is he left
handed a right hand left handed left handed, so I
guess it would be his left nipple and then pushes
it up in the air. It's a bit and he
goes way up in the air and comes down. It's
a bizarre shot.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
Well, we made a big deal out of it. But
at the family day, everyone on the court was yelling
for everybody to sag off and Darren to shoot, and
he ended up making it and he started taking to him.
But we saw what his own teammates and coaches think
of respecting him.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
At the top of the key, Yeah, the coaches were
yelling at Marino, back off, He back off him, and
he hit the shot. You know, when he came in
from Alabama.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
I think he why he shot like forty three percent
from three light. He didn't take a lot of them,
but still it's crazy. He's got to be wide open. Maybe,
So who's next? Elijah, Elijah, go ahead, Elijah.

Speaker 7 (11:01):
Hey, how's it going guys? I look, I'm from Lexington,
born and raised. I even went to clay Go Devils.
My thing is, I'm just really disheartened after this loss
because it kind of feels like, well, Louisvill's already a
bigger city. They have Churchhill downs, they're kind of like
our big brother.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
And I was really, first of all, you're all right,
So now we're doing what happened last night? Okay, last
night a guy called in and he tried to hang on,
hang on, hang on, if you want to finish this conversation,
you're gonna stop talking for a second. So last night
I got called in to the postgame show. First of all,
he called me Maddie Bangs to start, and I That's

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what Louisville fans used to call me back in the
day when my hair was down to my eyebrows, so
I knew. Initially I was skeptical. And then he accidentally
said we talking about Louisville, and then he still tried
to say mispronounce it. And then when he got to
jaylen Lowe, he called him joll And lou and I
was like, you are not a Kentucky fan, and I
called him, you are given Louisville fan vibes. Nobody, No

(12:03):
Kentucky fan, no Kentucky fan would call it Louisville. No
Kentucky fan would call the city of Louisville and Louisville
big brother. No one would do that.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
No.

Speaker 7 (12:13):
Look, I grew up right by Veterans Park Elementary Brother.
I'm a Caps fan. I'm just saying it's so disheartening
when we lose like this because they have.

Speaker 8 (12:20):
More popular It's just it's right.

Speaker 7 (12:22):
Can I be upset about that?

Speaker 4 (12:24):
You can be upset, but you can never say Louisville's
are big brother? Do you understand that?

Speaker 7 (12:29):
Well, well, let me just ask one question. I just
it's kind of disheartening when they've won a national championship
more recently.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
So you're a Louisville fan. I appreciate the call. You're
a Louisville fan. The fact that you now was a
Louisville fan. You call them big brother, and you acknowledge
their vacated national championship. You are a Louisville fan, and
I've caught you, and I'm now two for two on
catching Louisville fans during the show. Uh, don't think you
can pull that stuff on me.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
You can sniff them out. You got a fifth sense.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
You can sniff that smell. Louisville fans and Republicans who
are just trying to hurt me. I can. I can
smell them the Republicans who are not I'm fans with
those people.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
But he grew up by a veterans park.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Well, if he grew up by where's veterans Park?

Speaker 5 (13:13):
Oh, great disc golf over here. Okay, you hully recommend it.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
You can grow up in Lexington and be a Louisville fan.
Mario o'hier say.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Hey, yeah, I saw a guy walking down the streets
to Lexington with a Louisville sweatshirt on the other day
they existed.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
It is rare to see a Louisville sweatshirt in the
city of Lexington.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
He also Kentucky fans right now, obviously we're very upset,
we're eating our crow, but we all know that the
series still belongs to us. There they have kids that
have gone through school, may even have graduate degrees that
didn't see a Louisville wind. So it's in no scenario
do we think they're a big brother that hurt last
night and we have to listen to a little while.

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What's the change the rifle?

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Right, it's the overall thirty one fourteen or something like seventeen. Yeah,
but even since the restart, it's thirty one fourteen. Like
I don't want to hear you know, they won. It's
nice they as Drewid pointed out, they'd only won two
games since two thousand and nine that count, so they won.
Good for them, they should celebrate. Somebody was asking, I

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work with louisvill fans, what shoulday? You just gotta eat it.
You gotta eat it like that's the way it goes.
They you know, but that don't give me any big
pronouncements about it.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
I feel bad about all those folks we were at
our show yesterday at Beer and No's. They have to
live with that now for the next couple days, well
the next couple of months. Those folks that live in
Louisville or are Kentucky fans.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
That's sorry. Think of all the years they live with dominating.
We can handle a little dip.

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Welcome back. Did you say I had a fifth sense?

Speaker 2 (15:12):
I did. Yeah, it's a magical fifth sense.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
Give I think it's six sense because you have five?
What is it? Seeing? Tasting, smell, hearing, touch, and then
the sixth would be you said I only had five,
so you're impressed I can smell.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
I have very impressed you can smell out of Henry
Clay alumnus looking now, you did.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
Say you can sniff him out, and he said you
have a fifth sense smell.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
That's true. Now, some people are making a point. First
of all, one person says Matt, I've gone to Henry
Clay for high school. I know tons of people go
to Henry Clay. Nobody calls it Clay. He did not
go to Henry Clay. If he called it Clay, we
would never do that.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
I want to get if he lives out in Veterans Park,
that's not the Henry Clay this year.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
That's what another person says Matt. He says he lives
in Veterans Park. Vandans Park is districted Tates Creed. It's
not Henry Clay. I told you, don't fool me. You
don't fool me.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
You know, Henry Clay's building a new school. They're gonna
tear that old one down, build a new until the
baseball team has to play it like Legends Ballpark all
year next year. I don't know what this.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Oh, by the way, that's classic Ryan Limit. Do you
know like how Ryan Lemon that is he goes Henry
Clay's building new school. Think about all the things you
could say about that, Ryan goes. The baseball team is
gonna have to play at Legends Yeah, like not the school,
not where it's gonna be. What it's gonna look like.
You're you care that for one year the baseball team

(16:32):
might have to play at Legends Field. Do they even
have a good baseball team?

Speaker 9 (16:36):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, really good? Okay, yeah, no home game? What if
what your senior year? You don't have a home senior day?

Speaker 3 (16:41):
I would say playing a Legends field would be pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
That is pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
I don't feel might be playing at Clay Field.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
It's not even the stadium, it's just a field. Yeah
to you know, to play my senior games at slugger Field.
Oh it's horrible.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Oh no, how unfair is that? Yeah, one Verson writes Matt,
it's the first time since Mark Pope's been here. I
feel like he didn't have an answer. I think he'll
get there, but I've also never heard him more despondent
on the postgame show. I don't know if you all
heard the postgame show very unlike him, short answers, very

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short answers. Billy came on and said, we have four
segments left until the show. We kind of When he
says four segments, I usually know that means twenty minutes
because three of the last segments are Pope. So I'm
like twenty minutes. It ended up being like twelve minutes
because Pope only talk for like two minutes each segment.
I've never heard him be that short. It was surprising,

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which also kind of shows that I don't know if
he was upset, sad, whatever, but it was just a
different thing for him. Now.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
When he got here, I heard some buzz from BYU
that you're gonna like Pope. He's great, but when they
suffer a bad loss, he's like inconsolable and doesn't handle
it well and doesn't have answers right away, like we
saw that at Old Miss last year and then a
little bit last night. I'm with you. I'm sitting there
recording because I have to transcribe what he says, and
that was took me just a couple of minutes to
write that out because he didn't have a lot of words.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
If you listen to my Interrupted by Matt Jones podcast
with Jeff Goodman, which is the latest episode, We're drew
and I'll be doing a news episode today, but our
latest episode, I interviewed Jeff and he talks about that.
Jeff said, Marks the nicest guy in the world, but
you do not want to be around him after they lose.
That was and Jeff I think knows Mark very good,
very well.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
That's when he threw out the dumb effort a couple
of times. You could tell just I've never heard him
talk like that. The ton Andy's voice and the words
he was using was obviously he wanted to get that
over as soon as possible and get the heck out
of there.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
And that might be a weakness for him, but also
shows how much he knows that Louisville game means and
how bad he wants to win it that he's just
completely shocked and beside himself when it's over.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
He was mad the way they played.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah, yeah, who's up next? Jordan? Go ahead, Jordan?

Speaker 10 (19:00):
All right, man, I got a few things I just
want to say quickly, and then I'll get off here
and let you guys go. But I'll take it away.
In ninety nine collegiate basketball games, has shot five threes
three times. Last night he shot six. He shot sixteen percent,
one for six. There was numerous NBA scouts in there
over the summer. What did big scouts He needed to

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work on his shooting. He shot the ball when he's
not a shooter. He shot the ball last night. I
missed a lot of shots. At the team's experience, it
clearly looked like he was playing selfish basketball for his
draft stocks, which is a complete opposite of what Mark
Pope preaches, which itself was basketball player for the name
on the front of the jersey.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
And it was just no, that's an interesting point. I mean,
it's an interesting point about with the NBA scouts there.
I mean, there were a lot of NBA scouts. I
think a lot of people wanted to see Michael Brown,
probably Malachi, you know, and I'm sure always part of that,
and this was his chance, and maybe he felt like
he needed to shoot more three. That's an interesting stat.
Play one hundred college games. You only shoot five threes

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three times. One of them was last night last night.
I'd be interested to see how many times the team's
won the games where he's done that, because I just
don't think and I appreciate the call, I just don't
think Drew that's his strength. I don't think that's what
That's not where his money will be made, in my opinion.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
And we know when he went to get his feedback,
they say you have to work on that. But this
is our Kentucky basketball season, not your training camp. So
sure we'd like for you to have a better shot,
but that's not the priority.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
I mean, what happens if you play another game, Ryan,
and it's the end of the game, and the smart
thing to do is keep diabate and away on the bench.
I mean, I guess you can say you know it'll
happen because they did it last night. So I mean,
you know, if.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
You'd ask me that before the Seaton started. I said,
that will not happen. You have to have those two
guys on the floor in a late game situation.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
I told you.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yoga girls got to figure it out. She said it
was his hair, his haircut.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Well, he's not even be able to grow that. Those
dreads back this quickly. Let's go take a while. Maybe
you have little baby dreads start that. We know last
year there was nobody that Pope. There was no one
at the end of the game that Pope would not
take out. If you think about it, even Jackson Robinson
at the end of the game sometimes wouldn't play like
he would take guys out. So I think he'll do
it again here. I mean, one of the good things

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about having Aberdeen is if you get more games we're
low at the ends taking bad shots, you'll just take
him out and you'll and you'll make Aberdeen the point guard.
But I have to say I didn't see o Way
being out, But it was the right call because Chandler
came in and hit like two threes immediately when he
did that.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
I mean, I felt bad, but I was yelling at
my TV, get him out of the game, your preseason
player of the year. But we also know what he's
capable of the Oklahoma games. You know, we all know
the stats of his double digit games last year. It's
just getting him back to that for him and whatever
is going on with him that just had him so
lethargic last.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
Night, Shannon, I did have one big fist pump.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Oh you did.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
Yeah. I mean, once they took that big lead in
the first half, I was like, well, we're not gonna win,
so I'm not gonna get my emotions up. But there
was a fist point I was. I paced in my house.
So we cut it to four, and then Jalen Low
got that jump ball and they and the ref pointed
our way and they went to time out, and I

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fist pund fist.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
At the stadium. Though you left too, so you weren't
there for the comeback.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
No, I didn't want to be. It's too nerve wracking.
It's too nerve wracking. Like once they started going down,
I'm in the Louisville parents section with the Fruse, with
the Frus. The Frus are over there with their sour
krout and I can't, you know, I can't, I can't focus,
So I needed to go.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
Fruzer over there. Asking you where the podcast is. They're
loyal listeners and.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
Germany Breckensey Deutsch and I'm like, you know, ainswy dry
for your food, And it was like it was time
for me to go.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Who's next, Let's go to Madison.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Madison forty seconds? Go ahead?

Speaker 9 (22:46):
Oh sorry, I have two things. One, Uh, I wanted
to know if Ryan knew that former U OFV coach
Marty Simmons is the head coach of Eastern Illinois.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 9 (23:00):
Uh oh you did?

Speaker 4 (23:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (23:02):
And then too too. What was y'all's opinion of the crowd?
Do you think it was the sixth player last night?

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Oh? For sure, especially early, especially in the first half.
Now they got tents at the end, but in the
first half that place was lough. I mean it was.
If you're talking road environments for a regular season game,
I've been to with Kentucky, I mean, what in Indiana.
I've been to a couple of Auburn games that are
pretty crazy. But it was probably next to be honest
with you, so we'll take a break. Be right back. KSR. TJ.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Smith, personal injury attorney called TJ.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
He'll make them pay.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
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Here's not Jones.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
I love this song, Shannon, but that commercial is going
to start being a lot.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Have they been planning like a They played it like.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
College football Saturday and then last.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Night wearing it out for you?

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Is it Starbucks? Is that what it is? I don't know.

Speaker 5 (24:03):
My brain zones out.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
I do love this song, I mean I really do,
But I don't want this to become one of those
things that like it. They play it so much. I mean,
this is not like a legendary commercial like for all y'all,
like they gotta be careful.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, I mean, unless you're stinking hearts Billy, they're just
playing wrong. I mean they play it fifty times a night.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
And I've offered to redo it and they're like, we're good.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
It's it's the people going.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
But this is a great song. What do you think
happened to we think happened to these guys? Do you
think they still play it?

Speaker 3 (24:39):
I doubt it. I don't even know if there's still
a band anymore. The Philamers, right, the Proclaimed.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Proclaimers, they're brothers.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Yeah, who doesn't like this song?

Speaker 2 (24:47):
This is a great guilty pleasure.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
This would be a good song for us to sing
on karaoke. Shitning on our road.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Trip, isn't KOs are doing karaoke like tomorrow or something?

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Is doing karaoke here tomorrow KOs Bar, Yes, tomorrow night,
they have karaoke here, so you could do it.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Then Proclaimers are still on tour. You can go see
them over there.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
I can't believe they're still on tour. They got to
be like in their seventies, right sixties.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Maybe. I don't know if you can.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
See they have any other songs, but this, well.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
They got other songs. Nobody knows them though.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
Because if you went to see the Proclaimers, you just
be like, just play five hundred miles.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
So I can go just just here for five minutes.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Okay, here's a question. Let's say you're a band and
you're the proclaim You have this song, where do you
play it on your set?

Speaker 3 (25:25):
The last song of the night?

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Do you do the last song? You maybe will sit
there the whole time waiting to hear this.

Speaker 5 (25:31):
I constantly tease them with the first few seconds throughout
the night so let them know I got it. But
then I just keep pushing it off just a.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
Couple give them don't, dun't, don't, don't, don't. Then you're like, Okay,
I got a new one for you.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
Just keep hanging on.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
I would if you promised me that I could just
hear that and leave, I'd go see them here. But
I don't want to be there for anything but that.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
That's trying to get their tour dates.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
So we can all want to sit through the rest
of their constant or just play that one.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
I don't think they're in the States.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
You know, Drew and I are gonna be Drew and
I and Billy and Mario are staying Saturday night in Erie, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
Who up?

Speaker 4 (26:08):
Everybody knows what what's going on in Erie, Pennsylvania? Let
me know who up? Erie?

Speaker 5 (26:12):
Well, A, w's what's going on?

Speaker 4 (26:14):
That's true. We may not be there for that yet,
but uh, we're gonna be in Erie, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Where were we in Pennsylvania? Where we watched a game
at that place called the Penlrs.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
Great time we were That was an awesome night. I
was betting on sports before we had DraftKings. It was
not a real sport. It was a virtual dog.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Nine two oh twenty two eighty seven. Let's talk just
one second, about about football. We are now projected by ESPN.
Both of ESPN's Bowl prognosticators have us going to the
Liberty Ball.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
I'm not convinced they're gonna win the football game against Louisville,
so that gives us six wins, making you got us
winning After last night, I am convinced our football team
will not let this fan base down. They'll win that
game at Louisville.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
Can I tell you what I did say to Vince
Mary yesterday? Yes, I mean I was feeling a little chesty.
I just said to him, you know, y'all are losing
a few weeks, don't you. And he was like, oh,
but come on. I'm like, I'm just telling you we're rolling.
And I also said we would never lose to Cal.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
We're trending up. They're trending down.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
No, I didn't say that, but I was like, we
never lose to Cal and he just looked at me.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
But you know, on our home field.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
When's the last time they've won both? It's like decades,
is it really?

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Well?

Speaker 5 (27:35):
They didn't. I mean they've only won the basketball game
twice in recent history, and they didn't win the football
game that year, So you'd have to go way back.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
I would they when they beat us the bill a year,
they probably beat us in football that year because we
had Joker right.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
There was that long stretch Drew's right where whoever won
the football game lost the basketball game a month later.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
It just yeah, just happened.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
Oh no, we got him in football three straight times
for Mosah nine. So it's not those years either. Might
even have to go farther back.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yeah, maybe so, might be in a while.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
You're ready, we get even more confident in the Governor's Cup.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Yeah, who's up next? Landing? Go ahead, landing?

Speaker 8 (28:14):
Hey, Matt, Uh was that the game last night? Kind
of hoard from screaming from the upper level. But I
just got two quick things.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (28:20):
First Off, Jyleb Low and just about every game we
play this year is gonna be the quickest player on
the floor with the basketball in his hands, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Probably true.

Speaker 8 (28:29):
He's gotta learn to play off. He's got learn to
play off two feet rather than one, because when he
leaves his feet to make a pass in the air,
it just it makes me.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Twice, once in the first half and once in the
second half, jumped up to make a pass and then
didn't have anywhere to go with it and turned it over.
He you cannot, he cannot do that. He jumps up
and then like I think he decides he's gonna he's
gonna make his decision in the air and he he's
you're right, he can't do that.

Speaker 8 (28:58):
Yeah, And then uh second thing, and lastly the second half,
I think Otaga away really shot it out of the game.
And then we come out underneath the twelve minute media
and we go small and Colin Tandler like shoot us
back into the game totally. Right around the five minute mark.
Right around the five minute mark, Pope puts Otaga in
for Chandler and next possession, wide open corner three throw

(29:22):
Otaga and he bricks it. So, I mean, if that's
Colin Chandler, I feel like we cut it to I
think him before right then.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Yeah, and then it'll take a foul out, and then
it'll take a foul out and we kinda had we
had the right line up again, I think understandably and
I appreciate the call. It's kind of like you remember
in twenty fifteen we would talk about should cow put
the twins in at the end or Ulis and Booker
and sometimes people would argue Ulis and Booker and you'd go, well,
but the Twins won all those games, Like, are you

(29:50):
you've seen him do it at the end of games
Otaga won. I mean, he was our clutch player at
the end of the games last year. But I do
wonder Drew if last night maybe it should have be
Chandler the whole way down the stretch.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
Well, we all know my thoughts on Chandler, and as
president of the fan club, I have to throw out
a stat. He has taken twenty one threes, shooting fifty
eight percent from three. We keep saying someone has to
step up from fifty eight percent three wow, And that's
not on a small sample size. I mean he's taking
a lot of shots and shooting fifty.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
O way, He's the first Kentucky player ever to make
four threes in his first three games yep of a season,
first twelve twenty one, no one's no one's ever done
that before.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
So maybe he is the shooter we keep saying Williams
or Noah. Maybe it's just Chandler and he needs to
play more.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Maybe it's the point where he has to be on
the floor.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
Yeah, you have a guy on Shannon.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Uh, I'm calling him right now.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
That means you forgot no, I got it, I got it.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
I'm calling never doubt Shannon.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
This you said half way through the segment. We still
got time.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Okay, all right, Well while you're doing that, let's take one.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
More Cokay, let's go to Pat.

Speaker 8 (30:52):
Pat, go ahead, Pat, Hey.

Speaker 11 (30:58):
I have actually live, have been Charleston. I went to
the UK, but live in Charleston, South Carolina. So I
watched Pat Kelsey coach. Yes, he's a great coach. He's
very good. He took them to the tournament for the
first time ever, two times.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
In a row.

Speaker 11 (31:13):
So we're going to worry about UL for a long
time now.

Speaker 8 (31:18):
This isn't like it used to be.

Speaker 11 (31:20):
But simply I didn't see my I watched the whole
entire game of my fiance last night. She knows nothing
about sports, and she asked me two questions, and they're simple.
He goes, you guys don't look like you know where
you're going. I was like, I think we didn't. And
then she asked me. She's like, who's the brown guy.

(31:42):
Why don't you guys have a player like him?

Speaker 4 (31:47):
That's a great question. Why don't you have someone as
good as Lebron? That's a good question. We didn't. Uh listen,
he's great, He's great. I appreciate call. He's the best
louis player since Donovan Mitchell and he might end up
being a better college player, and even Donovan Mitchell was
Donovan obviously became a great pro. But uh, he's great.
Michael Brown is you know Louisville gotta got a star

(32:07):
with him, no doubt. All right, we have on joining
us on the phone. Ryan, This is Gavin Colton. You
may have heard me talk about the Irish announcer for
UK soccer who who I really enjoyed listening to when
UK played their soccer game the other day. He's on, Gavin,
how are you sir?

Speaker 11 (32:24):
Get ok out?

Speaker 12 (32:25):
How are you doing?

Speaker 4 (32:26):
I'm doing great? Now tell me how does uh an
irishman end up calling UK soccer?

Speaker 12 (32:33):
Well, you know, when I was in grad school a
little bit of coaching of the women for the women's
soccer program with Dean Kerry. You know, I just always
thought there was you know, they could do with another
voice on here. So he just reached out and on
I came.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
I mean you you just wrote them and said, hey,
I can call these games. Yeah, wow that I kind
of love that. You know what, I'm listening these games.
You need you need somebody who knows more about it.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
I'm gonna write the Indiana Pacers as soon as we're done.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
That's great. How did you end up in the Lexington?

Speaker 12 (33:04):
I came to lextioning for grad school, originally came over
to Northern Kentucky and went to played and played soccer
there at NKU, and move to Kansas for a little
bit and came got a second master's at UK, and
now I'm working at PCTC here in town.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
So explain to me. You were in Ireland and you
came to play soccer for Northern Kentucky. How does that happen? Yeah?

Speaker 13 (33:25):
I got a call from uh, from coach at NKU,
said he'd been out to see one of my games.

Speaker 11 (33:31):
You know, when I was like seventeen.

Speaker 12 (33:33):
I think the game had been abandoned after twenty minutes
because of a brawl.

Speaker 11 (33:36):
He seemed a load of that.

Speaker 8 (33:38):
Offered me a full ride. UH moved over.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
Wait a minute, Hang on later, Hang on just a second.
A guy, the Northern Kentucky coach, watched a game of
yours for twenty minutes. Then the game was abandoned for
a brawl, and he offered you a scholarship.

Speaker 11 (33:53):
That's exactly how it went.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Wow, I love this story.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
College soccer recruiting is a different animal, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (34:00):
So?

Speaker 4 (34:01):
Was that a was that a big change of like
change of pace in life? You just all of a
sudden show up at n k U.

Speaker 11 (34:09):
Yeah, totally different.

Speaker 12 (34:10):
I think I'd watched just the right amount of American
play films. I think I was watching Blue Mountain State
at the time, and so, you know, going to college
in America sound there sounded very good to me.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
You know, Gavin, you and I are gonna have to
talk longer, like we're gonna have to have you back
on have a buffalo this weekend. Yeah, let me ask
you men's soccer team real quick. All right? Are they
I haven't followed it enough, but they're good. They're gonna
make the tournament? Right? Yeah?

Speaker 12 (34:35):
Yeah, all all things going well to be hitting the tournaments?

Speaker 4 (34:38):
All right? So that what they played the night in
the semifinals. That's in Lexington, correct, Yeah, seven o'clock and
we play is it Central Florida? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (34:48):
You see, all right?

Speaker 4 (34:49):
So tell me preview that game for us really quickly.
The game is on at seven on on SEC Plus.
You can watch it on the computer. Should should Kentucky
be the favorite? Yeah?

Speaker 12 (35:00):
They beat them earlier this season in a relatively tight game,
beat them three to two at the Bell. You know,
Kentucky all round is just really really strong team, have
lots of pieces all over the.

Speaker 11 (35:10):
Pack, you know.

Speaker 12 (35:11):
Unfortunately, the big, big trouble for Kentucky's gonna be three
players PCF and that's three French guys.

Speaker 13 (35:16):
It's the Rudor and Gogu and it's a guy with
top named William Rico who just have a crazy flare.
And if Kentucky can stop them, they'll create chances. What
they can't do is what they did there last weekend.

Speaker 12 (35:30):
Against Coastal, which is ship back and enjoyed possession, not
really create any chances to themselves and say, well, we're
at home.

Speaker 11 (35:36):
It feels a little bit easy.

Speaker 12 (35:37):
To keep the ball and not really feel like you're
going after the game.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
The three Frenchmen gotta watch out for the three Frenchmen
drew for Central Floor. All right, So games at seven
o'clock tonight, Gavin, I want you to come back with
me to preview the NCAA tournament once the brackets come out.
And I've also got to learn more about your experience
at Northern all right.

Speaker 11 (35:58):
And that sounds good.

Speaker 12 (35:59):
On the shout out for the women's seem to play
on Saturday against a little Sister Louisville.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Hope they got a w there. They do play against
the little Sister Louisville. That's there though, isn't it? Yeah?
All right? Do you call the women's games too? No?

Speaker 13 (36:16):
No, that's that's scratching Mills, former player coach as well.
Who's maybe the best the best left foot and lex.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Men the best left foot in Lexington. Well, Gavitt, thank
you for taking the time. We'll talk to you very soon. Great.
Thanks though us appreciate like that guy, Love that guy,
Love that guy. How do we not know that guy?

Speaker 5 (36:34):
I'm changing the Colin Chandler fan cle up to the
Gabon fan club kick fan that I want him to
go on our road trip.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
And how college soccer is that? How the recruiter goes
You see a fight and go I want that guy
to come.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Play with the guy to the middle of that brawl
who's fighting with a k the NKU Jersey on I
want you to just.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Think you live in Ireland, you get a scholarship offer
from Northern Kentucky and you just get on a plane
and go to college there.

Speaker 5 (36:56):
Well, he watched the American pole movies first, and then
he got on the plane.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
I don't know what it's like at Northern Kentucky, but
I feel like it's not like American pot.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
I think it's a little different.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Wow, we need we need more.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
I can't believe he's been over here this whole time.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
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the most fun people to be here. Oh yeah, wouldn't
you agree with that. There's a lot of them here
in Lexington because the horses.

Speaker 5 (37:51):
Oh yeah, I know several. And I've been to Ireland
and it was one of my favorite trips I've ever had.
Love Ireland and Irish people.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
If Gretchen Meals has the best left town, he's got
the best right foot.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
Maybe him, Maybe it is m Jacob Coway, We'll take
a break, be right back. Final segment. It's KSR.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Welcome back.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Gavin's a hit. People saying
Gavin is the new Max.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
He is the new Max. Very funny. Enjoyed visit that
visit right there.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
Yeah, we're gonna have to bring him in here one day.
I like how you stayed, came all the way over here,
just stays.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
And I'm gonna tune in to hear more of him
on the game. On the game, and I love.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Do you think we can write in and ask to
be the announcer for sports?

Speaker 2 (38:34):
I love that just sends a note to Mitch Bonhart, Hey,
I can do the men's soccer broadcast.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
For you done? All right, So DraftKings. We'll make our
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(38:59):
take the game for are from the BBN United Classic.
Nichols plays Valpo. It's a pick em.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
We've got it both of them.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
We've played them, both, Nichols and Valpo. Pick em. Who
you got, Drew?

Speaker 5 (39:16):
I am going to take game is at Valpo. By
the way, Yeah, I'm gonna take Valpo. Nichols went and
lost to Eastern Illinois. They are the winless team in
the bb and United tip Off Classics, so I will
say Valpo gives them a third loss.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
In the event.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yeah, Valpo wins this consolation game over Nichols by ten.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Shannon, Yeah, give me Valpo. I can't get behind Nichols, don't.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Nichols is gonna turn into dimes tonight They're gonna go
win a true road game in Valpo. It is time
for Nichols. Is the better team they bring it. Valpo
is not gonna be able to handle their athleticism. Give
me Nichols.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
What the name of Homer Drew are you talking about?
Valpo's gonna win the night?

Speaker 4 (39:57):
All right, who's up next?

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Let's go to Grayson?

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Go ahead, Grayson?

Speaker 14 (40:03):
Hey, Matt, first time? Long time?

Speaker 4 (40:05):
Who what?

Speaker 14 (40:07):
I just got two quick things one And this is
a complaint going back even to last season. It feels
like Mark Pope struggles to find the five that are
gonna be the most effective at any point during the game,
and when he finally does, he rarely keeps them on
the floor, like first dead ball, first TV timeout that
they come up to yank somebody. And it really seems

(40:30):
like that's something that he's not gonna change. That seems
something analytical that he's gonna stick by. And I think
it's gonna be a problem going forward, like give all
of Malachymrae or give all of Brandon Garrison's minute to
Malacham Maraino. At this point, and then number two, I
think last night is like the official end of the

(40:50):
Mark Pope sent from God, can do no wrong. Honeymoon like,
at this point, prove.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
It I got. I'm be glad you brought that up,
and we may talk more about this tomorrow. I thinklast
night Ryan was the first time Mark Pope that was
like a welcome to now you're actually the honeymoon phase
is over part of the Mark Pope experience, like he's
I mean, I still love the guy. I still like
it's but I think for the first time you start

(41:17):
to hear people go okay, wait a minute, questioning things right,
which is okay, that's gonna happen. But it feels like
to me last night was the night that the honeymoon
kind of ended. Do you agree, and now the true
marriage starts.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
I feel the same way. And you know he told
you when he struggles, he wants you to be he
wants you to criticize him. He deserves me criticized. He was,
like you even said, kind of out coached last night
by guy from our rival school. So there's like there's
a marriage, a little criticism.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Do you think there's this is the start of now
actual like you're living with somebody. It's not just honeymoon.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
Yeah, not just because last night's results or anything. I
just think that's the case. It's year two. We I
mean the press conference and all that last April was fun,
beating Duke. It was all a great year one. But
now I think people are gonna be great. I'm a
lot harder, and I think the substitution patterns and rotortations
is a legitimate concern. Like he pulled Jasper against Valpo
after he had a great run last night. Some questionable

(42:11):
stuff and that that existed last season too.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
That was my biggest criticism of him last year was
was minutes. I didn't understand why we would play so
many minutes. We'd always take the starters out and get
the again. Now he found the group at the end,
but it did and he went with him.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Just took forever to get there.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
It just took us forever to get there, and by
that point we were down twenty. Kind of when we
when we got to the group, We're gonna have to
do that, I think quicker. But uh, I do think
that's that's a probably a conversation we'll have double tomorrow.
I do think the honeymoon kind of ended last night.
All right, I'm hosting trivia tonight seven o'clock. Ryan's team
is gonna be here along with Paul Uh. We will

(42:52):
be back at this bar tomorrow for the show. And
then where are we Friday?

Speaker 2 (42:55):
We're downtown at the Marriott Infinity Bar.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
Marriott Infinity, it's fancy. We'll see you later. Speak of
Tucky Sports Radio MHM.