KSR Postgame UK MBB at Vanderbilt 01/25/25

Matt and Billy recap the Cats' 74-69 loss at Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everyone. It is the local Toy Dealers KSR post
game show. I am Matt Jones. The Cats lose in
Nashville seventy four sixty nine against Vanderbilt in a disappointing loss,
as the team puts forth thirty minutes of probably the
worst basketball it's played all year, mixed in with ten

(00:22):
minutes of being really good, but it wasn't enough to
get the win on the road. You can give us
a shout, obviously, love to hear from you here on
a Saturday night. Eight five to nine, two to eight,
zero twenty two eighty seven will probably go until maybe
just right at seven or a few minutes before you
know it was. The first half was I thought, the

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worst Kentucky's played all year, and maybe the I mean
certainly the worst performance we've seen from a Mark Pope team.
A lot of things went wrong in the first half.
Pretty much everything went wrong. Honestly, I thought the execution
was poor, the defense was poor, but the effort was

(01:03):
just awful. The worst effort I've seen from Kentucky, not
only this year but in a while. I mean, it
just looked like guys were not hustling. They were just
kind of standing around all the fifty to fifty balls
went to Vanderbilt and the Cats were down fourteen, and
you know, we've learned that you can't sort of say

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these games are over with the way Kentucky can score.
But it didn't look good. Then in the second half,
you know, the first eleven minutes. In the second half,
Kentucky was great. I mean, it's like we've seen in
these handful of runs against Florida and against Gonzaga, Agains,
Mississippi State and even some in the Alabama game, like
they just they hit on all cylinders. A lot of

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guys made shots. O Way was really good. All minor
hit threes. Brea and Jackson Robinson helped make some plays.
I thought they were excellent. And they went from down
fourteen to up seven, and you know, at up seven,
that's a game at that point that you need to win,

(02:08):
Like that's a game where you have really done what
you're supposed to do to get a victory and now
you need to win the game. And I think at
that point was it was it sixty eight sixty one?
Am I right about that? Was that the score when
they were up seven. I'll have to look it up.
But they at that moment, Kentucky was in excellent, excellent

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shape and felt like they were headed towards getting the
big excuse me, fifty eight fifty one. They were at
fifty eight to fifty one, and then back to back
three's by Vandy. I mean, you know, we can focus
a lot and we will talk a lot about what
happened at the end with the execution, but I thought
those were the biggest shots of the games. Fifty eight
to fifty one. You score, crowds going crazy. They come

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down and one of their bigs, number ninety nine hits
a three and at to four and they call time out,
and you know, if they missed that shot and we
get the ball, I think they're in trouble. They make
it come down, we take I think Jackson Robinson takes
a long tu you know what I feel about those
shots misses. It was contested as well. And then they

(03:19):
come down and hit another three, and so now you're
in a one position game. And it basically stayed like
that until the Lamont Butler turnover at the end and
you let them back in the game. You had them
at fifty eight to fifty one. Put everything else aside.
Put the terrible first half aside. Put the you know,

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the mistakes, the bad defense, the lack of hustle. You're
up seven, you know, seven minutes to go, you're gonna win.
You can win this game. You should win this game.
And then it's a one possession game. Still though, next
few minutes Away makes some plays. They kind of give
go back and forth with baskets. Almonor hits the three

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I think at one point at the corner after we
fell down one to give us the lead again by two,
but they just couldn't get a stop. And you know,
then the execution in the last three minutes was just terrible.
I don't know what you know Butler was. This is
two straight games where Butler has been really, really bad.
I mean, he was really bad in the Alabama game.

(04:22):
I think Kentucky wins that game if he even plays average.
Probably same thing tonight. Six turnovers, you know, the dribble.
You know, we're down one, he has the ball and
just loses it. Uh, that was bad. And then what
what what was he doing Billy with the trying to
force Ansley Almondor the ball at the top of the key.

(04:42):
I you know, he tries to force it in, gets
knocked away, then gets it and tries to force it
in again.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
I think it was a Mari but.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Excuse me and Mari. And by the way, I thought
that Mari was not good. Those were the two guys
I think really cost Kentucky tonight where Butler and Amari.
I still don't I still understand what Amari does on
defense when he doesn't like contest shots. I mean, I
don't get it, you know at this point, and Mark
Pope kind of seemed to suggest this in the last week.

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Maybe that's what they coach him to do. There was
a huge play, huge play, were up one and guy
drives the basket and he like jumps but doesn't raise
his arms, and I like, I don't get it. And
poor guy, he has hands of stone. You know, if
you go get if you take your baby to meet
the team, Billy, don't hand them to marry because I mean,

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I mean, he just well, I'm just saying he'd like
he had that one rebound. So sixty eight sixty four,
actually I said Robinson missed along too. Actually at sixty
eight sixty four, Butler did a pump fake under the basket.
He got under the rim looked like he was gonna finish.
He missed it, but it fell right into a Maury's hands.
He'd had an open dunk and Billy he just dropped

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it out of bounds.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, it is puzz with that guy.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
He he baffles me. I'm not sure there's ever been
a Kentucky player that baffles me more. I mean, his
numbers suggest that he's not just a good rebounder, that
he's an elite rebounder, like he's like second in the
country in rebounding stats. And yet when I watch him,
I feel like he misses so many rebounds. And you know,

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on the play where he got hit in the head
like he does, he's got a dunk and then Steady
pumps fakes and he gets hit in the back of
the head. And he just perplexes me as a player.
He really does. You know, on the one play where
the guy drives and he doesn't jump, he gives up
a layup. Then the next play he gets a huge
block and you go, well, what it just he doesn't

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make sense to me. And Butler just had two games
in a row. He keeps playing with his left shoulder,
which makes me think maybe that's bothering him. I mean,
I think clearly it is bothering. I don't know if
that's having an effect on how he plays, but I
thought those two guys just did not play well. And
then you throw in we don't have Car, And if
you listen to Pope after the game, he didn't say

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Car is out for a bit, but he kind of
it kind of sounded like it, and he said he
didn't think he had done right by Car, maybe suggesting
that he brought him back too soon or you know,
that's gonna be tough. I mean, Almonor played well tonight.
I thought Amanor filled him pretty well for him, but

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that that'll be a that'll be a bad loss in
part on defense, but also just as a scoring option,
because while Almonor is really has become a really good
three point shooter, he has not shown the ability yet
like Car does, to be able to score inside. And
I think they really, I think they missed that when
they don't have him. You know, a couple of highlights. Obviously,

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Oway had that stretch that was really really good. He
kind of looked like a leader getting to the basket.
You know, he had a big turn over there at
the end, as well though. But but and he missed
a three that I think if Oway hits that three,
we win the game. It was what sixty I don't know,
sixty five, sixty four, whatever, And he gets he shoots,
We're up one and he has a three. I think

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if he hits it, we win. I saw some people
online didn't like that he took the shot. I was
fine with it. I mean, one of my overall points
on offense. We've got to shoot more threes, Like we
are not good at going to the basket. Yet I
feel like we tried a lot, whereas we are a
good three point shooting team. Fire it. You know, Vanny
took nine more threes than we did. How's that possible?

(08:35):
Like we should we should be leading unless we play Alabama.
We should be leading every game in three point attempts.
And we still, I mean, we still take it to
the basket. And honestly, with the exception of O Way,
I'm not sure any of our guys are really good
at finishing at the rim, but we just we insist
on it. And I want to see. So I was
fine with that O Way three because I want those

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guys shooting more. That's their strength. But he misses it.
I thought Trent Noah played really well. I did. I
thought there was a period in the first half where
I felt like he was the only dude on the
team going after loose balls and not being scared of contact.
One of the frustrating things when I played high school basketball, Billy,

(09:19):
my friends would sometimes give me a hard time and
call me he wasn't a good nickname to have as
a basketball player. They would call me Feathers. Oh, feather
would feathers because I would shoot like a high arching
and they always were talking about how I wanted to
avoid contact, and honestly, they were probably right. I would
try to feather the ball in right. I felt like

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a lot of our guys were being Feathers tonight, especially
in the first half, except Trent Noah. He didn't seem
to mind contact, and he would throw himself in there.
And this was a game where the rest were just
letting them play, and he went out there and and
did a great job at sort of playing to the contact.
I didn't I understand at the end when they substituted

(10:02):
him him in on defense on that play. I don't
really know why they did that. He's a freshman and
like you know, and he got taken to the basket
and I don't know what that was, but that's not
his fault. He was in the game. He did the
best he could. But I thought he played really well
in the minutes that he played and really gave an
effort when the rest of the team was not. So

(10:25):
it's a disappointing loss. And why it's disappointing is more
of a big picture thing. We're three and three in
the conference. We play at Tennessee on Tuesday. We can't
assume we're gonna win that game. I mean, now, we've
had these road trips where we lose the first one
that we should win and then win the second one.
We did it with Clemson and then Gonzaga. We did
it with Georgia and Mississippi State. So maybe we go

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down to Knoxville and get a victory. I'm not gonna
predict that. I think Tennessee is, for many reasons, a
really hard matchup for us, maybe the worst matchup for
us in the SEC. So you could be three and four,
John Caliperry and Arkansas come into town and you, I mean,
you want to look up must win in the dictionary

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that would be there, but just bigger picture. You know,
you sit there and you look at the schedule and
you go, okay, where are these wins coming from? Right?
I mean you I think you know the NCAA tournament,
we have what we have fourteen wins right now, we're
fourteen and five. I think in this SEC we're probably

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in with eighteen wins, certainly nineteen, but probably eighteen. But
you sit there and you go, okay, well, where are
these obvious wins. We play LSU at home, right, I'll
give us that one. Right, we play South Carolina home,
all right, I'll give us that one. We played Vandy
at home. I know we lost tonight. I don't think
we're losing to them at home, all right, So you

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get that one. But there's probably not another game on
the schedule that you would say, Okay, well, we're definitely
winning that one. So I mean, we gotta go get
some wins. We gotta go on the road and get
some wins. I mean, right now, we're in tenth place
in the SEC. Right We're we're what a third of
a way of the way through the schedule six games,
and we're in tenth place in the SEC. If the

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tournament started today, we'd be playing on Wednesday. Now I
think we're better than that. We're gonna have to go
win these games. We still have four games left to
play against Tennessee, Alabama and Hauburd, three teams that are great.
We still gotta go to Oklahoma and to Texas and
to Missouri and it's got a host old miss and

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we still gotta play col You know this is this
is not like gimme territory, So I think you know
this game. My expectations got a little bit checked when
we lost to uh when we lost to Georgia, because
I felt like, look, if you're gonna have a chance

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to contend in the SC, you gotta win this one,
and we lost it. They probably get further checked tonight. Okay,
so we're not gonna win the SEC. I think it's
gonna be an uphill struggle to come in the top
four of the SEC. We still can, but I think
it's gonna be a struggle. I think you had to
win at least one of these Georgia and Vandy games
to do that. So now it's like, well, you got

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to come in the top eight. We don't want to
play on Wednesday. We got at least play on Thursday.
And we also want to have a seed in the
NCAA tournament where you can do something right. You know.
I actually think of four or five six is not
a bad seed. That's a seed where you can still
make noise. When you get down to eight, nine, that
becomes a lot more difficult, and we gotta make sure
we avoid that. I'm concerned because we're I don't think

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Carol will play again this year. Carr may be out
for a little bit. I I mean, I don't want
to think about the Arkansas game, but I think car
is important for the matchups in that Arkansas game, and
so we may not have him. You know, I'm not
I still think this team, this team at its peak,

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is as good as anybody, which is why the NCAA
tournament's gonna be so weird. There's not gonna be one
team in that NCAA tournament, Billy, that I don't think
Kentucky can beat, you know what I mean. There's not
gonna be one team I don't think they can beat,
but there probably are gonna be that many teams that
I don't.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Think can beat us in the first round.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
No you're exactly right, Like, we could play the overall
number one seed in the final four and I would
think we got a really good shot to win. I
also think we could play a one seed against any
team seeded thirteenth and up and they can beat us.
So you know, just gonna have to be along for

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the ride. I'll finish with this. I think defensively, we
are what we are. We actually held Vandy to seventy four.
That should be enough to win. We did. We've lost,
by the way, in every game we've lost outside of up,
we've scored under seventy. We're not beating anybody in the

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sixties nobody. So really, our offense is how we win
or lose games. What disappointed me tonight was the effort
for thirty of the forty minutes. I thought for ten
minutes we no only had great effort, we had great execution,
we looked amazing, But in the first twenty minutes and

(15:23):
really the last eight, I thought our effort was just poor.
And for a team like this, where execution and cristness
and teamwork is how you succeed, we don't have individual superstars,
so it's got to be a team, collective effort. You
have to have effort. If dudes like this don't play

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with effort, we look like a high school team. And
for about the last eight minutes of the first half,
we kind of looked like a high school team. You
can't do that. We cannot do that, and we haven't
gone much this year, so I'm not like worried about it,
But tonight, the effort for about thirty minutes of the

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forty minutes was really really poor. Eight five to nine
two eight h twenty two eighty seven. If you listen
to Pope's postgame comments, he sounded pretty down trodden on it.
I think he was. I think that's his version of
being angry tonight, Billy. You know, like he said say much.
His sentences were short, he was I wanna say he
was terse, but he didn't go very long. That was

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I think the closest I've seen too angry Pope. And
I can see why, because I it was a disappointing effort.
All right, we'll take your calls. Eight five nine to
two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. We'll take a break.
Be right back. It is the uh uh local Toyota deer.
Look at these people are like, give me a hard time.
One of my friends listening to called me feathers. That
wasn't very nice. He's surprised, I said on the radio,

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this is true.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Oh I'll call you feathers for the rest of my life.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
I think it's only when I try to feather the
ball in, which is what we were trying to do tonight.
This is the Local Toy Dealers KSR Post game show.
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A nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. Shout
out to eight year old Bo who texted the text
machine Billy and asked what I thought of the game?
Eight years old on the text machine. That's a good

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uk faate right there. Incredible? How about that? One person
writes Matt. I stopped watching the game as soon as
they banked in that three. I knew what was gonna happen.
I can't. I mean, we have to like, we have
to lead the country and banked in three. I think
I don't know did they bank in a three against Clemson,
because I know they banked in a three at Alabama, Georgia,

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Ohio State and now this one. I can't remember if
they banked in a three at Clemson, but I kind
of think they did. We I mean every loss this year,
they've hit a banked in three.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
I'm sitting with that easy.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
I don't think there's been. I bet you if you
look at our history, there are very few seasons we
have four banked in threes against US, and we've had
four in the four of the five losses. I can't
remember if there was one against Clemson, but I for
some reason in my head I think there might have been.
But I know there was one against Ohio State, Georgia, Alabama,

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and tonight. I mean, banked in threes are the worst.
That means you missed it so badly it went in.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
There also wasn't a foul called for the first twelve
minutes of the game.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
See, I like that, you know, I saw people complaining
on that one that that Amari got pulled that people
say got pulled down. But the thing is, I'm glad.
I mean they didn't call it because they didn't call
stuff like that the whole game. So I don't know
how people expected them to after a whole game of
not calling fouls to then call that one. Right, you
just gotta be tougher. This team is not tough. They

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are soft. Now. Part of that is because they're a
jump shooting team, so it's okay, but like, you gotta
be tougher. All these guys really except Oway, are not
and even Oway avoids contact sometimes. But you know, I
think Oways tough. A lot of these other dudes. Man,
they just don't like to be hit, any of them.

(19:02):
They avoid contact so much. And I mean, obviously, the
final telling thing was on that free throw at the end.
We got four guys down there and they'd even move
and the Vandi the guy gets it, and even though
we ended up getting the ball, it's like, how did
you all not move? They didn't move any of them.

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So it is what it is. Who's up first? Jason? Jason?
What's up? Jason doing well? Man?

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Greetings from bethlen, Pennsylvania, A good friend of Heather from Pikeville. Yeah,
this game in general, Mari Williams has to be the
most frustrating individual I've watched in a long time. Dude
has hands. Remember Marvin Stone, Marble Stone had terrible hands,
and Mary Williams might be worse than Marvin Stone. That

(19:53):
I don't get. How the guy just can't hold onto
the basketball.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Hands he is. I texted this to Drew during the game,
and I you know, he does some things really well,
so I'm not And obviously I'm missing something because his
numbers on rebounding are like through the roof. But I
agree with you. He may be the most frustrating player
I can remember in a long time, because I'm like, what,

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just look and go, what are you doing? It's it's
amazing to me because he's a great athlete, but like
you're right, man, in the hands, I feel like we
drop a lot. I mean, I think we all ought
none of our guys have great hands, but he particularly
sticks out.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah, no doubt. And as far as like fifty fifty balls,
we have to be the absolute worst team in the
NCAA about picking up fifty to fifty balls, loose balls, anything.
We just can't come up with him.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
And there was a bank three in the Clemson game.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Serve see look at that five of them. I appreciate
the call. How is that possible that they're five? I mean,
should we just stop watching when someone banks in a three?
That's it?

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, end of the game right there.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
It's unbelievable. And he's right about the loose balls. I mean,
we get no loose well I don't say no, but
we don't get nearly if they're fifty to fifty, but
we lose like eighty to twenty on loose balls. Part
of it is just again hustle, we reach, We don't
go get. These guys reach, they don't go get, you know,

(21:27):
they reach, they don't die, and that call and that's
and the other teams do and they get them. Who's next, Matt, Matt,
go ahead, Matt.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
This is Matt from brig Kentucky and uh my dad,
Channon and I we just have a huge, you know,
love for the UK basketball and everything you guys do.
But the three pointer is what wins games. And what
we kind of want to know on your all's in
and everybody's in, is like, how do we defend that?
Because we have to stop the three, not just against

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Vandy Sneider whoever we played against, but the whole season,
especially INTAA tournament. I mean, we have to defend the
three because that's what wins game.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
All right, So first of all, I appreciate you listen,
that's a I think that's a great point. I mean
we took twenty three threes. They took thirty three. So
one of the things is appreciate the call. If they're
gonna take ten more than you, you're gonna lose because
we hit nine, they hit twelve. We shot from three
thirty nine percent. If we took thirty three, we hit thirteen,

(22:29):
and all of a sudden, take those free throws away
at the end we no, I mean no, we hit thirteen.
We win, Like we just don't take enough of them. Now,
as far as how to defend them, there are teams
we play where I understand why we give them the three.
I don't understand why we give Vandy the three. Make

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Vandy beat us off the bounce, you know what I mean, Billy,
I want to make them beat us off the bounds.
I want to make them beat us at the rim.
Don't let them. Pope said after the game that like
they were worried about getting beat off the mounts, and
so they gave up some big man threes and they
made five of them. You know what, make them beat us?

(23:13):
I know they will some, but the last time I checked,
two is less than three, and I just in the
first half some of those threes were Our guys just
gave him so much space. You remember one A Mari
was ten feet from him. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
Well, part of that I think was such an emphasis on,
you know, defending without fouling. I think Jackson Robinson said
afterwards that they were timid to start the game, but
fair enough.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
But like after they haven't called a foul in four minutes.
Foul them, right, They didn't call foul for the first
nine minutes of the game, twelve twelve minutes of the game,
so foul, you know, I mean, like they're not calling
anything foul. You know, Travis Perry came in there, poor guy,
but like I get, he's not good at I mean,

(23:58):
he's a first of all, I think is gonna be
a good player, but he's not a great defender. But
he gave him so much space, and that dude hits
a three. It's like, Travis, if you're gonna get beat
off the dribble anyway, don't give him four feet of
space at the three point line. You know, you saw
what Vandy did to us. They got out on us
like Georgia did, and they started defending us outside half

(24:20):
court to try to create steals. I'd liked us to
see us do some of that cause right now, man,
we give him space and then we still get beat
off the dribble, So it's tough. Who's next, Tim, Tim,
what's up? Tim? But with that said, by the way,
on defense, I don't think we did played great defense,
but they only scored seventy four points and that should
have been enough to win. Seventy four is a number.

(24:43):
If you told me before the game we hold him
to seventy four, I'd have taken it. Tim, Go ahead, Tim.

Speaker 6 (24:49):
Me too, Me too.

Speaker 7 (24:50):
Matt Jones, This is Tim C. Tuck from phill Fark, Kentucky.
First off, shout out Matt and Billy. You guys in
the words of the Greatest America. Ya are some great Kentucky.

Speaker 8 (25:00):
You know.

Speaker 7 (25:00):
I just wanted to call in and say that was
everybody is. You know, a lot of people are frustrated,
as they should be. But the thing that I blows
my mind is kind of just like where we're at
in the country. I guess, like nobody everybody's calling in
about the players and the and everybody's asking questions about
the you know, the rest and things. But like if

(25:21):
your first question as a media member is not okay.
So Mark Pope, you put Trent Noah in in the
second half with two minutes left in the second half,
and and how what was your thinking there? And you know,
and also the thing I don't understand is the game
the way it was bandaged? Why why is there not

(25:43):
questions about that? Like I love Mark Polk, I am
so happy he's our coach. But at the same time,
like we're allowed to ask this is the University of Kentucky,
like that was the one of the weirdest. It looks
like a game.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
I don't know how. Second, because I want to give
you a chance. I want to give you a chance
to uh to respond. I think you make though a
very good point, which is we're in this weird place
in society where do you either have to love the
person or not like them at all, and you can't
go I like you, but I have some questions, right,
like we don't you're not allowed to do that, like

(26:18):
just think about it, Like you're not allowed to just go, eh,
what about this? I did. I'm with you. I did
not understand. And I hate to say this because I
thought Trent played really well. I didn't understand the decision
for it for a defensive play to put Trent in.
But at the end of the first half, if you
go back and look at the end of the first half,
we had bizarre lineups in there. I mean there we

(26:41):
had like lineups. At one point we had Colin Chandler,
Noah Braya Almanor and uh and Butler. And I was like,
what is what is this line up? I mean, these
dudes have probably never even played together in practice. So
I listen, maybe Colin Chandler will be good here one day.
I hope he is. I don't think he can play

(27:02):
right now. In the SEC and we put him in
for two different runs and I don't know who his
plus minus was, but I don't think it was very good.
So I'm I'm with you. There was some weird lineup
stuff to me tonight.

Speaker 7 (27:14):
And and and and thank you for saying that, Like
I you just summarized, like I just I only know
I have short times, So those are exactly what I
was wanting to ask too about it, along with we
just apparently abandoned the whole point guard position today. That
was another question I would love to hear Mark posts
answer to, like, Okay, so we're just we're gonna take
Butler out and we're just not gonna play a punt

(27:36):
point a point guard. But I know, Butler, I mean, but.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
I was okay with that. I was okay with that
because that that was when we made our run. Honestly,
we made our run well point yeah, I mean, you know,
I appreciate it. Call we made our run from. I
don't mean to cut you off, but I but I
think you make good points. We made our run from
down three to up seven, I believe with Butler on
the bitch when it was Oway, I think it was Oway, Robinson, Oway, Robinson, Braa,

(28:07):
Almanor Garrison maybe or almanor Williams. Like that was kind
of when we made a run. He's right though, at
the end of the first half, I mean, I'm not
gonna go back and watch it because it was so
bad those last eight minutes of the first half, Billy,
it looked like a high school.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
Game, twenty to four run by Vandy at the end
of the first time, I didn't understand.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
I mean, we were just kind of running up and
down the court. It looked like for eight minutes, that's
the worst we've looked. That's the worst we've looked all year.
I don't know what we were doing those last eight
minutes in the first half. But the thing is we
still came back. We had a seven point lead, like
you gotta win at that point. Who's next, Dave? Dave?
Go ahead, Dave?

Speaker 6 (28:47):
How you doing? Mat Jones?

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Good? How you doing, Dave?

Speaker 6 (28:50):
I'm doing great. They were just a little disappointed we lost.
But you know what, I can't believe people. Nobody says
something and valuable Andrew Carr was. Does he must missing
in a zoom action on the five and the four
outside and spread it and throw it to the month.
That was some he was. Really we missed him a
lot tonight.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
I agree with you. Here's the good thing about one
of the things we forget about car and I'm guilty
of this too. You mentioned that about the zoom action.
This team really struggles to get easy baskets, you know
what I mean, Like all of our baskets are jump shots.
We struggle to get easy baskets. And Andrew Carr gets
us three or four easy baskets again, and we didn't.

(29:32):
We didn't have those tonight. There's probably four times that
he gets a little up and under or like you said,
little zoom action, he like gets a little pet, you know,
he head fakes, gets fouled, makes the free throws, he
gets like, he gets us like eight points a game easy,
and we just don't. He's like the only one who
can get easy points.

Speaker 6 (29:52):
What I'm saying, Matt, I just can't believe the BBN
and and talking. Because they were smart, they knew this.
We'd have won that game. He's been there. Not one
hundred pcent agree with the I think we have won
thousand thousand months.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah, I appreciate the call that man, that's probably true,
but we didn't have him, and we still should have won.
You know. By the way, uh Vandy, you know, they
stormed the court against Tennessee cost Hi two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars by sec rule. The court storm tonight
I think cost him like four hundred thousand. And it

(30:25):
wasn't even that many kids. You know, I don't know
if you saw they were desperately trying to keep them off.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
I saw, yeah, they were. The security guards were lining up.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Four hundred thousand dollars a lot of money with this
twenty two million dollar rev share coming. I mean, all
these schools like are having to add twenty two million
dollars to their budget. You know, four hundred thousand that
court storm may have cost like one or two people
their jobs. Well like that, I mean, I'm not kidding,

(30:55):
Like that's a lot when you just court stormed earlier
this week. Who's next?

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Moffatt, moffat, go ahead, Moffatt, Hey.

Speaker 9 (31:05):
Matt all right.

Speaker 10 (31:06):
So just like, oh, y'all, I did not really enjoy
watching that game. You know, it was rough to watch.
But I got to think back to earlier this year
when Mark Pope got hired, and I was one of
the people was like, what the heck is going on?

Speaker 11 (31:22):
Mark Pope?

Speaker 12 (31:23):
What?

Speaker 10 (31:24):
We've come a long way since then.

Speaker 9 (31:26):
I know we've got a couple, you know, bumps in
the road.

Speaker 10 (31:29):
But I don't think when I compare how I feel
to this loss compared to the Oakland or Saint Peter's loss,
it's nowhere near the same. Let's keep our heads up,
Mark Pope. I think he's a great coach. He's gonna
make adjustments. You know, I want to talk about the
last coach, but I couldn't at let's say, but I couldn't,

(31:51):
you know, I wouldn't say that about the last coach.
I've got hope for this team. Let's just think back
to where we were when he first got hired to
where we are right now. We probably won't be in
the top ten after this game.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
I'm with you, like there's a difference between I appreciate
the call. Big picture, I'm still very happy with Mark Popa.
I still think he's he's exactly what the program needs.
I still think he's gonna long term be very, very successful.
You know, none of this has anything to do with
long term. This is just this season, right. I mean honestly,

(32:28):
if you had told me when the season started, if
I had to look at that schedule and say what
would be the record for Kentucky after that game at Vandy, Billy,
I probably would have been like, all right, fourteen and five.
I'm good, you know what I mean? Right? The weird
thing is just who we're losing to versus who were
beating like we beat the game. Like. I didn't think

(32:49):
we were gonna win against Duke. I didn't think we
were gonna win against Gonzaga, you know I didn't, But
I thought we'd win at Georgia. I didn't think we'd
win at Mississippi State, but we did. I thought we
were gonna win today. It's just like it hasn't been.
The games haven't played out. The record is probably about

(33:12):
what we The record might even be a little better
than I thought. I thought we were gonna be like
twenty and eleven this year, and that may be where
we end up. It's just been a weird path. It's
just a weird path. But like overall this team, I
still am a huge Mark Pope fan. I think what's

(33:35):
correct is something that you know, I said a lot
this year that a lot of people didn't love. We
just don't have a great player. Jackson Romins is really good,
always a really good athlete. We still have a great player,
and it's hard to win when you don't have a
great player. We still have one. Unfortunately, he if I'm
nine to two, eight oh twenty two eighty seven, We're
gonna take a break. Come back. It's a local Twitter

(33:57):
Dealer's KSR postgame show. Back. It is a local Toy
Dealers KSR postgame show. Duke is playing wake Forest. They're
up fifty one forty seven with four minutes ago at
wake Forest. You know it's the kind of game when
you're a really good team, you gotta win. You're not
playing well, you're on the road, you're playing a team
that's good but not great. Duke looks like they may
win it. We did not. What are you complaining about

(34:20):
about the Duke game, Billy?

Speaker 5 (34:21):
It's like green like they need to white balance their cameras. Matt,
this is broadcasting one on one, So maybe call somebody
up at ESPN.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Please, Man, I didn't really see it online. Are you
sure it's not just your television?

Speaker 5 (34:33):
No, I'm not sure because I've only watched one TV.
I do have it written down here that Duke would
be undefeated in conference play.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
I told you they're going twenty and.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Ohe oh, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
I mean, and this was the g This was probably
this in the at North Carolina. Remember what was the
bet we made one and a half? Was that? Who
I bet someone that was that? It wasn't me. I
bet someone that I said that. Oh no, no, if
somebody heard me and then wrote and said they wanted
to bet me. I don't think they're gonna lose a
conference game because the sc too bad and they already
beat Louisville. It was five hundred thousand dollars that Mandy

(35:04):
is gonna be fined and the ad Candice Lee apparently
went to the students section during that review, you know,
at the end, and they were looking to see and
beg the students not not to storm the court. There's
a picture of her. She was like, I want to
use this money for NIL. Please don't storm the court.

(35:25):
And then they did it anyway.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Wow, that's funny. I gotta see that picture.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah, there's a picture of her like going, please don't
go there it is and they her in prayer. She's
literally in prayer, please don't do it, and then they
did it anyway. See I told I mean, that's not
a small amount of money, five hundred thousand dollars, it's

(35:51):
a lot of money. Yes, she's literally she has her
hands in prayer, going please don't storm the court, and
then they did. All right, if I'm not eighty seven,
who's next, Mike, Mike, go ahead, Mike, Matt.

Speaker 8 (36:07):
I like it, but I have some questions. No, Gay,
I do enjoy your postgame analysis, that always, but I
want to push back on your occasional pushback when people
talk about the negative effects of NIL and I'm a
retired lawyer. You're absolutely right, it's legal. It's just it's

(36:32):
here to stay. There's no point complaining about it. It's
just the way it is now. So I'm not arguing
about that. But you've often asked do you see any
reduced effort by players who are making a lot of money?
And you look, you have look to the pros, and
then you look at our own team, which displays great

(36:56):
effort a lot of times. But then you have games
like tonight where you are the first person to observe
there are many effort.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
But I would argue with you, but I would go back.
I could go back ten years ago, twenty years ago,
thirty years ago, when they weren't being paid, and there
were games where we didn't play with effort. You know
the COVID, yeahar, one of my problems with that team
was that that team often really didn't play with one
hundred percent effort. Well, they weren't being paid at least,

(37:28):
you know, from nil. So I mean, I think it's
easy to then say I think there are always teams
that struggle with effort. It's easy though, to go well
it's cause of nil. I mean, there's high school teams
out there that don't play with effort. Like effort I
don't think is related to money for ninety five percent
of these guys or more.

Speaker 9 (37:52):
We just we don't know these We don't know, we
don't we don't know.

Speaker 8 (37:57):
I don't know enough to argue with you. That's point
is that when people bring it up as a suggestion,
I think the correct answer is, well, we really don't know.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
But I would say to you, if you're gonna say,
if you're gonna say this is just my general overall
argument about if you're gonna be accusatory to people. You're
a lawyer, You know this. If you're gonna say a
kid is not playing with effort because he's getting money,
you need some price. You need to say, some proof
of that. You can't just say it. You have to

(38:30):
You have to show the kid, the kid at Indiana,
the kid at Indiana Diallo who's like going out to
bars before the games and like bought this crazy car
and all this stuff. If you want to say this
kid got two million, put on weight, et cetera, like, Okay,
I still don't know if I would say that, but

(38:50):
at least you have something to point to. We don't
really have anything to point to, and I don't like
when people just say that in the abstract.

Speaker 8 (39:00):
No, I'm throwing it out there as a possibility. I
don't think that I have absolutely no evidence. You're completely
right about that. I'm just saying that when people are
skeptical that this might be a situate that kind of.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Yeah, it's a fair that's fair, That's totally fair. But
I would also say to you that Ohio State just
won the national championship in football and had more Nile
than any team in the country. So if they didn't care,
would they have won the national championship? Right? So I
mean it's yeah, all right, Well, I appreciate the call.

(39:38):
It's a fair point. Maybe I shouldn't be as dismissive.
I just we have a tendency sometimes to say, like
I really and I've been like this in again. I
don't like when kids are playing bad and we then
make it like a reflection on their character. It's like,
take Mari Williams. He frustrates me a lot. I said

(40:00):
that he frustrates me as much as any player I
can remember. But I've heard nothing but an anyone say
anything but that he's a great kid. You can be
a terrible basketball player and a wonderful human being, you know, Billy,
Hopefully you and I are like that because we both
stink at basketball. I'm assuming you do and hopefully we can.

(40:22):
Hopefully we're good people, right, So, I just don't like
when people use poor play to then reflect on their character.
That's my reasoning for when I push back on that.
Who's next, branch? Branch? Go ahead?

Speaker 13 (40:37):
Hey man, how are you good? Let me ask you
this about Mark Pope. Here's my question about him, is
a lot of our frustrations in recent years have been
built around the same things beating us every single game.

Speaker 11 (40:52):
Yeah, and obviously.

Speaker 13 (40:53):
The things that are beating us are different now. But
as smart as Mark Cope is and as good as
his offense sets are, it's crazy to me that he
can't figure out a Mario Williams putting his hand up,
you know, defensive effort, effort on the glass, all of
those things, you know.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Well, yes, I think I understand what you're saying. I
will say this about effort. I don't know how you
make somebody go after a fifty to fifty ball, you
know what I mean? Like, on some level, the kid
just has to do it right. I'm sure Mark Pope says,
go get that ball right there. On some level, I

(41:36):
feel like, I mean, I feel like coaches. You know,
maybe he coaches Amari not to put his hands up.
That would surprise me. And if he does, I would
say that's fair to question. But some of it is like,
I know, he doesn't coach Amari to drop the ball
and it just go off his hands out of bounds.

(41:57):
Like on some level, I don't know, man, Like what
else is he supposed to do?

Speaker 13 (42:03):
Yeah, for sure, I guess I'm not saying I think
he coaches him that way. But and I'm definitely not
saying he should have the attitude of the last guy
we had. But Hope himself, I guess, doesn't really seem
like a super tough physical guy.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Oh wait, then you don't remember you don't remember him playing,
Like how old are you? Uh?

Speaker 13 (42:23):
Twenty seven?

Speaker 1 (42:24):
So yeah, I mean when he played, he was the
most physical dude on that team. I mean, if you
go back to the ninety sixteen, I appreciate the call
like they were uber talented, but you had a lot
of these uber athletes and then there were two dudes
who were like physical. Knock you guys, Mark Pope and
Anthony Epps. Those were the two dudes that were physical,

(42:44):
and then they had all his talent everywhere around it.
So yeah, I wouldn't say that now he plays a
system that doesn't emphasize physicality. They're they're a shooting technique system.
So maybe that's something he's going to have to improve on,
is getting his guys to be physic. Somebody sent me
a message on the text machine that I thought was
an interesting point. He said, Mark's used to playing in

(43:07):
the Big Twelve, which is a much more finesse league,
or it has been much higher scoring, and maybe he's
gonna have to adjust his system to a league that's
a lot more physical because the SEC has always even
when it hasn't been talented, it's always been physical. It's
an interesting point, Billy. Maybe that will be what he
has to do.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
Yeah, and maybe Amari Williams is used to playing in
his conference and when it comes to the SEC, it's
a little different, not being it.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
May be, but that's an interesting point. I mean, he's
used in the Big Twelve. There were a lot of
teams that put up points, get up and down the court,
maybe Mark's gonna have to get a little bit of
an adjustment to get because like, even the worst team
in the SEC has great athletes. Right, we might be
the least athletic team in the SEC. Now we're one

(43:55):
of the most talented, I think, but we might be
the least athletic and that might be something that has
to change. But he's also bringing in three recruits next
year that are all great athletes. So like, you gotta
do I do think you have to give him time
to go get those guys. Who's next, stub stub? What's up?

Speaker 9 (44:14):
Hey, Matt? So people are he talked about the Mariy
Williams and he was too. He was two time defensive
player of the Year at Drexel. And I know people
will say that's the A ten, but it's still not,
you know, like playing transy No, yeah right.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
It is probably the seventh or eighth best conference in
the in the country.

Speaker 9 (44:36):
Yeah so, but talking about tonight, Kentucky out shotting from
the field, the three point line, the free tow lines,
and they had a plus thirteen rebound margin and stiff lost.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Oh wow, Wow, we had a plus thirteen rebound margin
and still lost. Wow. That's bad.

Speaker 9 (44:54):
That's what it's turnovers, right, turnover sixteen five. So what's
disappointing is I didn't think a team that was experienced
like this team is would lose a game, because they would.
I mean, they just they melted and fell apart in

(45:15):
the last four minutes. And I didn't think a team
like this would ever lose a game like that. But
which which brings me to another point that I'm concerned about.
I wonder if they're starting to wear down. Maybe injuries
are just accumulating.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Injuries are part of it. Injuries are part of it.
But you know they had a week off, right, so
you know, you know, I don't know that I can
buy the wear down. They just had a week off.
But that's you make a good point about the turnovers.
I mean, I knew we had a bunch. I don't
think I realized they only had five. So I mean
that's sixteen to five. That's that's a huge difference. I mean,

(45:53):
that's that in the threes. If you just didn't know
any other stats, then we had sixteen turnles that they
had five. They made thirteen threes. We had made nine. Sorry,
we're probably losing if those are the stats.

Speaker 9 (46:06):
I think at this point this has been my last
thing is just, you know, hope to finish the middle
of the pack and see what happens in March.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
I agree, I appreciate it, appreciate the call. I agree
because the one thing about this group, I do think
they can beat anybody in March, but they also can
lose to anybody in March. Height If I'm nine to eighth,
twenty two eighty seven, we will take a break, have
a final segment. It's a local good calls, by the way,
tonight one of the better even after the loss. One
of the better set of calls. The Local Toy Dealers
KSR post game show, Welcome Back. It is final segment,

(46:36):
Local Toy Dealers KSR postgame show, good set of callers.
Tonight Kentucky loses. I hate when Kentucky plays early in
the day and then loses. It feels like it's hard
to enjoy the games that come after. I've always been
like that, even in football, play a noon game and lose.
When you play early and win, you can watch the
games and not be nervous. That I like, But I

(46:58):
hate when the play early and lose. He if I'm
nine twenty two eighty seven. Who's up next, Jerry, Jerry,
go ahead, Jerry, hey.

Speaker 14 (47:08):
Man, thanks for taking my call. I got two quick things.
He was at one point for two minutes of something
to go in the game, and Butler had the ball
at the top of the kee where he was at
the pri Toro line. He tries to force the ball
into him. Yep, they steal the ball, but the score
which I ain't got no problem with that. Then the
next time down the floor we go inside and I'm benon.

(47:30):
I sawry Vandy gump back down the floor, goes up
for a shot, Williams goes for the block. The kid
missed the shot, and Butler just stands and watches the
ball man and they get the rebound.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Yeah, and he was bad the last few minutes. He
was bad. Last few minutes he was And then he
got his pocket picked. Uh one or two possessions after
that that was you know, he's a senior. He's been,
he's been in the National Championship game. He's got to
be better than that. Down the stretch.

Speaker 14 (47:56):
Hey man, let me say one more thing and I'll
leave you alone. And the second half ben no more.
They ain't no answer. Fall away. He should have been
had he should have had the ball in his hands
a lot more. And at the end the game, man,
I mean, we picked it. We're probably not gonna be
Tennessee all we do. But if we go on a

(48:17):
three game losers Street, we've got to beat Arkansas.

Speaker 6 (48:20):
Man.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Oh dude, I don't. We gotta be ark So no
matter what I mean, I can't imagine. I can't imagine
doing this show next week at what time? Midnight? Twelve
thirty at night? Is that where when it's gonna be.
I mean it's gonna because the game's at nine, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Yeah, with the documentary crew in town two.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Oh come on, now, if I have to sit in
my house and do that and do this fusting show
and it's twelve thirty at night, break the NFL show
the next day and we lose, man, you're gonna have
to carry me out of it. Who's next, Robert, Robert?

Speaker 11 (48:53):
Go ahead, Robert, Hey, Robert from Stanford. The only thing
I have is I think, going back to Coach p
who I had interviewed at a TV station at the
mid nineties when I worked there, is that The bad
thinking about it is Andrew Carr is the straw that

(49:14):
stirs the drink that I know.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
I don't know if I agree with that. I mean,
I like Andrew a lot, but you know, if you
go look, I mean we we've won some big games
where he really hasn't played great. I mean the Alabama game,
we were right there and I don't even know. I
don't think he played particularly well at all. I think
he's very important, but like he would have gotten this

(49:39):
three or four easy baskets. Like I said earlier, but
I think you can win without him. Although it's obviously better.

Speaker 11 (49:45):
To have it, you can, and I always go back
to it, it's better to have him than to have not.
And if we have him, that's true to night, I
think we would have been better off.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
I agree. I will agree with you there. If we
had tonight, I appreciate the call. If we'd had him
to night, I think we'd have been a lot better shape.
I think we would. I think they could have, you know,
if Carr. On the one hand, because Vandy's so small,
missing car doesn't kill you. On the other hand, I
still think one of the best versions of Kentucky is
Car at the five and a lot of teams. The

(50:18):
size it so much that you can't do that. You
could have done that tonight because Vandy's small, so we
could have played car at the five and been difficult
to guard, and we just weren't able to do that.
Who's next, Lee, Lee? Go ahead?

Speaker 6 (50:33):
Lee hey Man loved of dissection going on now after
losing a couple of games in two weeks and stuff.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
But what's wrong with that? Like, what's the is it?
I mean, that's what we're supposed to do, right, Yeah, that's.

Speaker 6 (50:45):
What your show's about. Yeah. I getting ready to say
that it's really changed though in the way it's gone.
But I do agree with you on a couple on
several things. I want to talk about them real quick.
One is I agree with you a Humbercent. I don't
watch much sports that we lose it there at the
accnoon game. I'm if I won't watch TV again until
the Eagles play tomorrow afternoon and I'll watch them. So

(51:07):
that's that's one thing. The other thing is I went
to about thirty five games in nineteen ninety six and
Mark Pope was anything but frail.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
It was I agree he was well, I mean, his
it was his effort and energy that made him a player,
you know what I mean. I mean, he wasn't gifted
with great talent, but he played nine years in the
NBA because of his effort, you.

Speaker 6 (51:29):
Know, and he wasn't afraid to knock you down. And
I and I agree with you too that on this.
Then I almost say one thing I'm gonna do dissecting myself.
I want to say this other thing, though I agree
with you what you said too. This team looked like
probably they look the first week they came to practice
like they never played together that first half, the whole

(51:50):
first half.

Speaker 9 (51:50):
And it was just horrible.

Speaker 6 (51:53):
The one thing I do want to kind of say,
I don't know any big mistakes that Pope has made
and coaching this year. He's done a lot of good things.
But if Andrew Carr had been hurt and didn't need
to play the last few games, I wish he'd set
him out. But if he been able to play today,
I wish he had played him. And I don't know

(52:13):
we'll ever know the answer to that, because I do
agree with I think we'll win. Last thing. And I
hang up, and I appreciate you listening to me. Just
remember this regards what we do. I think we'll end
up nine to nine sec or ten and eight in
sec and get probably a six or seven seat and
go to Cavin chance to win one or two games.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
But when we.

Speaker 6 (52:33):
Started out the year, we wanted to beat the Arcs.
We wanted to beat Louisville. We've done that. We want
to beat Duke, we've done that. We want to beat Gonzaga,
We've done that. Now we have to beat Arkansas. And
I love your program, and God bless and go cats.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
That is true. If you had told us before the
year started, you get to beat five teams, we would
have said Duke, Gonzaga, Louisville, Tennessee and Arkansas. Probably all right,
we've done the first three. Now we got to get
the next two. So may not win the next one
in Knoxville, but we can still beat them and rub

(53:11):
and then we got to beat Arkansas. Who's next?

Speaker 2 (53:15):
We've got three left bones?

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Is next? Bones? Go ahead? Bones? Look at you telling
me how we're gonna better. That's what I was gonna do.
It was three of them, go ahead, both.

Speaker 15 (53:23):
What's going on?

Speaker 11 (53:24):
God?

Speaker 15 (53:24):
So just a couple of things. I got a challenge
for Corey Price because he's the stack guru wonder if
there's any way he might be able to figure out
out of maybe the last couple of years, five years
or whatever, any time a team is banked in a
three how many times we've lost, because I'd like to
say it's probably seventy per cent at least losses. And
then my other big concern was, you know, the Scotty

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report on Vanderbilt was that the leading team about feels
and points off the turnovers, and they seem to annihilate
us on that like we didn't even know it was coming.
And then the last thing is I'm still not really
worried about this or whatever, because I told my friend tonight,
I'm willing to probably put money on it if the
SEC Tournament when it starts, I'll be shocked if there's

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more than two teams in the SECS that have two
losses or less, and I'll just hang up unless guys, listen, man,
love you show go catch.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
I don't even think they'll be two. I think they'll
probably only be one team with two losses or less,
and that'll be Alburn. I think Alabama will have it
more than two losses. Tennessee, you'll have more than two losses.
Everybody's gonna have more than two losses except Aubert. I
think I feel I feel pretty confident about that. Yeah,
the turnovers is a big issue tonight, and but most

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of them were in the first half. I really those
last eight minutes of the first half, like, never show
those on television ever again, because it was rule Who's next? Ian?
Go ahead? Ian? Two more? What's up?

Speaker 12 (54:56):
Hey man? To add on to what the guy said,
a couple callers go about, how you know we won
against go, we won against Duke, We've we've we've done
all these things. I don't think that Mark Pope is
the guy who's just gonna roll the dice and be
just completely careless. But I think there's a scenario where

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he knows that this game against a really decent Vanderbilt
team at their house is not really it doesn't matter
if we lose there.

Speaker 9 (55:36):
I disagree with he can do things he can.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Yeah, I disagree with you. You got to it. This
is a game there. If there are so few wins
on the schedule that you feel that like you can
look at and go like, I feel good, We're gonna
beat South Carolin at home. We're gonna beat LSU at home.
I think we're gonna be vandel but there's not a
lot of other games on the schedule that I go, well,
we're definitely gonna win that one, so like you gotta

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win these, I mean I do not, you know, with
two minutes to go, we're up one, Like I don't
think Mark Pope was thinking, that's not that big a
deal if we win this.

Speaker 12 (56:10):
No I agree with that. But my question, honestly, in
the when when Noah came out at the very first
time he came on the floor, I was like, what
is going on? Why is he? And I just wonder
if he is if he is adjusting some lineups and
doing some things where like you even said, what are
what are these lineups? Where he's just saying I know,

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I know we're close enough and we can try to
figure out what's going on so that we know in
March what what.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
We have maybe maybe maybe maybe, But I appreciate, Carl,
we're going too long with it then, I mean, we
we've been down like nine points in like almost every game,
you know, and we can't just keep doing that. I mean,
if he doesn't go down fourteen, we win this game easy,

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Like you you just can't. And again, you know, I
like again, I'm not trying to be rude or mean,
but Colin Chandler, he can't play right now in these games.
He just can't. And he doesn't need to. We don't
need to go with him twice to find out. It's
pretty clear Noah and Perry have shown they can in
certain parts. I don't think tonight was a Perry night,

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but it wasn't Noah night, so you know, I don't
mind that. But then, you know, putting all those guys
in at once at the end of the first half
that just did not work. Let's do one more. Who's next, Josh, Josh,
go ahead, Josh.

Speaker 16 (57:39):
Hey Man, thanks for taking my call here in western
North Carolina. Really always appreciate Ksar got me through the
floods and everything. Always got me to laugh when I
listen to your show. But I wanted to just make
two points. We can't win seventeen turnovers eleven assist every game.
We have to have and we beat the teams. Our
assist turnover ratio is outstanding and tonight was home true.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Got to execute right, like, this is not a talent team,
This is an execution team, and like your your point says,
if we don't execute, we will lose. And that's what
happened tonight.

Speaker 16 (58:11):
And here's my second point. Last year used to say,
first of all, totally different team. Well, we always said
we could lose anybody, we could beat anybody.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
And yes, that's exactly right there. You know what's crazy,
and I appreciate the call. I thought about that actually before,
like this week, when you know we didn't have a game.
It's crazy to say this, but this is a lot
like last year's team, but just a lot less talented.

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Last year's team had infinite talent, and you just thought, man,
if we hit shots and reach our potential, look how
good we are. This team not nearly the same amount
of talent, but we just say, man, if we just execute,
we're really good. And just as it would be frustrating
last year that we couldn't get them to put the

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lineups on and to get all the talent and make
it work, it's a different frustration this year. But it's like, man,
if you guys will just hustle and execute your execution,
you can be really good when it happens. So they're
different teams, way different talent levels that team last year
was a lot more talented, did not play particularly smart.

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This team played smart, not particularly talented. But it's like
if they both would just reach their full potential, they
both have the ability to beat anybody, But as we
saw last year, they both could lose to anybody, and
hopefully we won't have that result this year. All right,
thank you folks very much for listening. Kansas is playing

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Houston right now, Billy, I know it's part of the
KASR parlay. How did the rest of our teams do
in the parlay? Do you know?

Speaker 2 (59:51):
No, I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
I'm gonna do it. Look at this real quick. Did
Butler beat the Paul? Yes it did. There was one,
all right, sorry, I'm making you hear this, Utah and Baylor.
Baylor beat Utah. That's two. What were the other two?
Kansas and what was the other one? Billy, come on,
help me out. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
I didn't bet it, but I can look it up
real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Look it up real quick, because we're two for four.
Kansas is gonna win to night. That's gonna be three.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Do you think Kansas gets it done tonight?

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Kansas is gonna win to night.

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
Yeah, I've almost got it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Oregon State Clan at Santa claarair o. I don't know
off the top of my head what happened in the
Oregon State Santa Clara game. Here, I'm gonna look it up.
I think they're in the West Coast Conference now and
Oregon State is up to at halftime. Come on, now,
there'll be something positive for the night. Thank you, folks
very much for listening. We will see you on Monday
if you get ready for it. Tomorrow listen to the

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ESPN Championship Game preview Sunday at ten am. Thanks to
Billy for hanging in. We'll see you later. This has
been the Local Toy Dealers KSR postgame show