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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dick Gabriel sitting in for the voice Tom doing some
last minute work as we prepare the UK Radio Network to.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Head for Auburn.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Wildcats, of course taking on the Tigers tomorrow. We'll
talk about that in just a moment here on the
Leads Report, presented by Bob Kat Enterprises.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Today we will talk about last night's Kentucky basketball game.
Wasn't pretty, was it?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
We'll chat with Cameron Mills of the UK Radio Network.
Kentucky volleyball with a huge.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Weekend coming up.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Tonight, the Wildcats take on Vanderbilt, which is only one
one sec match. Vandy hasn't played women's volleyball since the
early eighties. They have renovated their program. They hired Anders Nelson,
the Kentucky's top assistant to build their program. So the
Cats should roll tonight. But they take on second ranked
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Texas in Austin on Sunday. Wildcats are ranked third and
so we will talk with the UKPR man Chris Schulz
about that, and then we'll learn more about the Auburn
football Tigers from Andy Bircham of the Arbor Radio Network.
So it's a full slate today for the Leads Report.
Wildcat News of the Day, of course, presented by Giuseppe's
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of Lexington. And you know that it was not pretty
last night, the Wildcats falling to Georgetown eighty four to seventy.
And it was weird because Georgetown took the lead about
midway through the first half and never look back. There
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were five ties, six lead changes. Kentucky was up nineteen sixteen.
Next thing you know, Georgetown scored seven straight never trailed again.
In fact, Georgetown led by as many as ten in
the first.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Half seven at halftime.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Kentucky saw Georgetown run off to a seventeen point lead
with ten and a half and it's left Georgetown never
trailed by less than double digits in the second half.
Kentucky got there within ten at sixty six fifty six, but.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Could not get any closer.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And we'll talk with Cameron more about this, but the
defense just wasn't there, and it was pretty apparent that
Kentucky was not going able to put together.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Stop after stop after stop that it.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Was going to take to climb back into this game
and eventually win it. So it became the first exhibition
loss for Kentucky since August of twenty fourteen. That was
a loss to the Dominican Republic in the final game
at a twenty fourteen Big Blue Bahamas exhibition tour. Now
that team, fourteen to fifteen team, excuse me, all.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It did was run off a thirty eight game winning
streak after that. I'm not saying this team will do that.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
But losses like this can be learning experience. There's no
question about that. Mark Pope, if you heard him after
the game, he didn't have much voice left. He was
just despondent and said, it's no good. Anytime you lose,
you can learn from it. Buddy said, this is not
good to space es actually here, meaning Reperena, which is
where Georgetown now.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Has won two straight games.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Georgetown is two and zero against Kentucky, but that first
game painful memory came in Seattle to nineteen eighty four
in the Final four. The following year, Georgetown in Rapperina
loses to Villan Nova, but the Wildcats and the Hoyas
this was the first time they had met in Lexington.
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Kentucky opens the regular season Tuesday at home against Nicols,
game time seven pm. You will hear that game right
here on most of these same UK Network stations with
pregames starting at five thirty. UK men's soccer with a
big one tonight. It is Senior Night. They take on
the Georgia State Panthers and a Halloween.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Matchup at the Bell.
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Kentucky is now ranked eighteenth in the country and it
should be fun. It always is regardless of the weather.
UK soccer at the Bell is a blast. Football Wildcats
hitting the Tomorrow night's seven thirty. We'll have it for
you on most of these same stations five thirty pre game.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Wildcats still looking for their first SEC victory.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Arburn got its first win last week against Arkansas thanks
to four razorback turnovers in the fourth quarter. So if
the Cats can force some turnovers, maybe they.
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Can pull the upset down on the planes.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Links to these stories are on the bud Light Leach
Report page at Tom leachky dot com. And when we
come back, Cameron Mills of the UK Radio Network will
dissect last night's lost to those George chwanhoy is that's
coming up next on the Leach Report.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Welcome back to the Leech Report.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Dick Gabrielle sitting in for the Voice coming to you
from the Clark's pumpin Shop studio, which looks suspiciously.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Like my garage this morning.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Filling in for Tom and joining us now is the
two time national champion Cameron Mills, A good friend.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Mark Pope, former teammate. Cameron. Good morning, sir, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
What did this bait and switch? Well, we thought we
was surprised you to talk, expected to talk to the
legend this morning.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I'm talking, I know, and and you're stuck with me,
and I was you.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yes, I don't think you didn't want to use you're
happy about it.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Well, keep that that list of ad libs handy, then
you're going to need to carry it. What were your
thoughts as you and again, you know, with all fairness, Cameron,
a terrific shooter, never a defensive specialist.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Defense was a problem last night.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
What what were your thoughts as that game unfolded?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I you know, I kept going back to two things.
As good as we were against Purdue, we were as
I don't want to say bad, but maybe that's the
right adject why we we were. We were we were
as bad as we were last night. You know, you go,
you go coming the main stats and you know we
we weren't. We didn't shoot them all particularly well, especially
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from the three we did. We did do better from
the foul on than they did. They shot the ball
better than we did. But then like those key stats,
that one in particular the bench points, I mean bench
points against Purdue, I think it was like I want
to say, it was like thirty two to twenty, maybe
forty two, others thirty eight, thirty two to twenty. Complete
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reversal of that last night, yep. So our bench didn't
show up or just had difficulty getting in the scoring column.
And then you know, points in the paint. They drugged
us some points of the paint. So you know, you
look at those stats and you're like, Okay, well here
here's the problem. Because the things that you know, we
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identified last night on on the pregame show is, you know,
here's the reason we were able to beat Purdue. Weach
didn't duplicate it against a you know, presumably far less
talented and and and far worst team in Georgetown. I
think I think we said they were Ken Palm ranked,
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and and you know how I feel about rankings at
this point the season. But kem Plomb at least has
some statistical you know, analysis to it. But Kim Palm
had him at like eighty second in the country something
like that. So I think the big thing of all
of that, because you know, you can get into the
weeds and dissect all the statistics. But the one thing
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that I go back to is, Okay, we came out
against Purdue with confidence, but not arrogance. And that's the thing.
You know, everybody talks about swagger, and they want to
see the swagger. I don't want to see the swagger.
I want to see this like silently take the court
knowing that we're the better team, silently play the game
to a degree, knowing that we're the better team, and
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just prove it with the scoreboard. I always love seeing
that because it just it smacks of professionalism. It's like,
this is what teams who know they're the best in
the country do. Now when you go against Purdue and
they're you know, preseason number one, I don't know that.
I didn't know that we would do that, but we did.
I mean, you know, it's it's new of a team
as we are, and we're everybody is Purdue, not necessarily,
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but we just came out and we just owned them
for thirty nine minutes of that forty minute game. Yeah,
last night was the beat reversal. So I wonder if
there wasn't a lot of you know, how good are we?
We don't know. Let's play Purdue, They're the number one team.
Oh we beat them, so we're we're about far the
best team in the country. And then we take the
court against a eighty six quo quote unquote ranked Georgetown team,
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and we take it with swagger, we take it with arrogance.
We don't think we've got to do the little things
that we did to beat Purdue to beat Georgetown, and
you do. You have to do it every night. So
the biggest thing I take from this is that what
Mark Pope wanted from the Purdue game a lesson we
got last night against Georgetown.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, you know, and this is a Kentucky team.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
And by the way, people point out, yea, they were
down three starters, but they were down two starters against Purdue.
You know, average he didn't play last night, but he
did against Purdue.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
But just a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I mean at the free throw line, six of thirteen
in the first half, much better in the second half,
but in the second half zero for thirteen from distance.
And meanwhile, hello, you're not guarding well enough, Georgetown shot
fifty six percent in the first half fifty four in
the second half, and we had been at the you
weren't there, I know, but at the practice where media
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people brought a friend or relative, we could hear Mark
Pope saying we could be the best defensive team in
the country if we'll just communicate on switching.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Well, this was far.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
From the best Kentucky effort, much less best in the country.
It comes back to defense every time.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
You know what's weird about that particular part of defense,
the communication, the switching in particular, is that every practice
I've been to this year, I'll go back further than that,
every practice I was at with Mark Pope as a teammate,
he was the most loquacious. I mean talking literally to
the point where coach Fatino had to tell him Mark,
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shut up, No, you're talking too much, right because he
would he would I'm not a jaggerated he would talk
about I mean, he wouldn't do it. It wasn't like
he was in conversations, but he would just he was always,
you know, vocalizing something not necessarily I mean, he would
vocalize when he needed to about switching. And hey, whose man?
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Whose man? That kind of stuff. But he was always
kind of vocalizing. And every practice I've been to this year,
the team has done that. I mean, I want to say,
maybe three weeks ago, I went to a practice and
I was sitting next to J. P. Blevins, and we
both kind of were noticing at the same time that
there's more chatter in this practice than you know, I
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was comfortable with from a standpoint of at our practice
other than the players, and that's who was doing the chattering.
But it was quiet. I mean, you could hear him.
You could hear a pin drop in our practice other
than coach Patino, except for you know, calling out screens,
calling out men, you know, making sure you know you
point guards, communicating to the whole team on defense and offense,
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all that stuff. These guys it's not just the point guard.
I mean at that practice in particular, they're all communicating.
And I mean communicating I mean as though that was
the main point of emphasis going into that practice. And
then against produced same thing. So you get the idea that, Okay,
that's what this team's among other things, that's what this
team's gonna be good at. They're gonna be good at communicating.
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Mark Pope has said this year in particular, he got
had more time with the guys. He had more guys
who were here last year, so we didn't have to
start from scratch completely and teach them, you know, offense first.
Now he could focus on defense first. And so they
were and I think they are a better defensive team
they were last year, and I think they will be
a better defensive team to the live team as they played.
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But again, I go back to the one thing. You
have to take the court with the same intensity, the
same consistency. I don't care who you play. This was
back in the old days when this was Athletes and
A and the Italian national team three. You know the
exhibitions that we played. You know we might have gotten
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beat by them last night. Then you know the story
as well as I do, because Marcus talked about it. Mark.
Mark told the story when you and I did did
the ninety six Treen Year Reunion Reunion anniversary. He talked
about going against Athletes in Action the ninety sixth season
the year will you know we only lost two games,
but that opening four minutes of the Athletes Action exhibition
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game where coach is furious because we have not taken
the core the court with domination, uh pretty much. And
he calls the time out and does his little clap
thing and smile and waving us over. And that is
that is signifying just terror for all of us, because
if he's he and has called the time out, I mean,
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everybody's getting ready to use and lose a jugular. I
mean it's gonna be a blood bath over in that huddle.
And so he goes over and he's smacking water with
his you know, his final four ring on the knee,
you know, and it just erupts to the point where
Mark tells the great part of the story is that
when they retake the court, Walt, who's six foot ten, skinny,
he's a reb with six foot ten, huddles everybody up
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and then this frightened childlike voice goes, guys, we got
a success. I mean that is what we did last night.
We took the court with the same sort of h
and I think, don't even it makes sense to me,
is that it came down to just we took the
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court with arrogance instead of confidence.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
We've got a break come back in a couple more
minutes with Cameron Mills of the UK Network. Next here
on The Leach Report. Welcome back to the Leach Report.
Dick Gaberline for the Voice for chatting with Cameron Mills.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Of the UK Radio neworked at two time championship winning Guard.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
And was not, of course, pleased with what he saw
last night, knowing Mark Pope the way you know him, though, Cameron, you.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Talk about teaching moments, right, I mean not, this ain't
going to be fun.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Well, you know, here's the thing he said, and I
mentioned this fort This is the difference, and this is
what I love about this new NCAA rule that he
wasn't able to take advantage of last year because we
still had kind of a typical exhibition season last year
where you're looking at, you know, for example, coach Calipari
down at Arkansas. I think they played Kansas in one
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of their exhibitions, and I didn't even know this rule
had changed. So I'm looking at that thinking, well, that's odd.
And apparently you could play teams like this privately in exhibitions,
which I mean, I guess that makes some sense because
again you're getting out of what Pope wanted out of
the two exhibitions, which is you get to see exactly
where you are. You're not playing against each other because
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everybody's tired of playing against each other at this point
in the season anyway, So you go against someone else
and both teams get all right, here's your benchmark. But
I think we exceeded the benchmark against Perdue, and so
I don't know, because you know, you and I have
talked about this a lot dicker over the years, is
how important losing is when you're trying to teach a
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team something, because if coaches, coaches can be emphasizing let's say,
for example, it's points in the paint. All right, let's
let's let's take a defensive steck. Let's say you know
in well, I can't use the vernacular or more Pope
because he uses all these strange, bizarre basketball world words
that I've never heard. But let's say it's got something
to do with you're close out. Guys. We're a week
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close out team. We're not getting to the shooters fast enough.
You know, we're going too far deep on help defense,
and we're not closing out properly. We're not closing out I.
We're not closing out well. The way we used to,
which which is kind of with a stutter step to
prevent them from hopefully preventing them from driving by us.
They have a different philosophy, but we're a week close
out team. Well, here's the thing. If you if you
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play a team like we did in Purdue and they
don't shoot particularly well, okay, or more importantly, let's say
they do shoot particularly well, but we still win so easily.
The coaches can ran all they want, we're not really
listening because we won, and we won easily. Well, last
night is what Mark wanted out of the exhibition season.
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I honestly don't think he expected to win against Purdue.
I mean a lot of us kind of were like, well,
I mean, they're supposing the number one team, so I mean,
I mean, maybe you could, but I don't think anyone
expected us to basically own them for forty minutes. But
last night, and Mark concluded. Because Mark was even kind
of like, you know, during the you know, when he
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and Tom sadown and they do their interview, we were
kind of all standing around listening to him talk, and
then they were done, and he was kind of just
you know, answering questions from the ESPN or SEC network crew,
and he was basically just kind of saying, you know, look,
we've not installed everything yet, We've not even done And
this is the thing that stood out to me, Dick.
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We've not even done a full scout right, which to
me was odd because I don't know if it was
a Okay, we don't want to overwhelm them with information
right now, we want to eat. Look, coach Betino's I
mean the scouts we got were forty pages front and back,
you know, font size number eight. I mean, it's they
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were just shocked full of information. So maybe Mark didn't
want to overwhelm them. I think he did the same
thing last night. I think I heard that that again,
not a full scout, So you know, I think part
of it was, Okay, we want to scout on certain
things that we feel like we need to get better at. Well,
we didn't win. Again, it doesn't count in the in
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the first column or I guess in the official record book,
but it absolutely counts mountains for being able to go
into today, tomorrow, this weekend, next week, before the first
the first game against Nichols and fix those things because
you cannot as a player, you can't argue with your
coach anymore. You can't silently object to what he's saying.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
But I gotta go, brother, good talking on man. Stay
tuned for more of the Leach Report. The Leach Report
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Wildcats with a match tonight against Vanderbilt here in Lexingon
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then Sunday at Texas. Chris, you got a big one
tonight because you're undefeated and I know Vanderbilt is not
a power yet in the conference. But you've got to
stay unblemished because you've got a big match coming up
with Texas. We're gonna look ahead because we can do that,
we're media people.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
But this is a really special Kentucky team. We'll talk
about Vandy in a minute. But you knew that you
were going to be good at Brooklyn delay coming back,
you had a lot of other players coming back, and
you added through the portal. But did you think this
team would be this good?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I really I don't think. I think most of the
national people would have told you that we'd be improved,
but we had a lot of things to work on.
I thought we would be this good personally, and I
felt like I was validated on opening weekends when we
played Nebrastice. But you, I think a big part of
I would this team grow because everybody was in Lexington
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beginning in Sanuary. That's unique for volleyball. But all of
our freshmen came in early, they olderly, our transfers were
here in time, so we came back to school in
springing camp everybody and there was no new addition. We
knew the pieces of the puzzle.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
That we had.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
We had already begun to We had already begun to
assemble that puzzle in the spring. So yeah, I wasn't proud.
I knew this team was special. I've seen it kind
of had toe compared to everybody else because I saw
the practices and things like that. I knew the talent
that was in the gym, So yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I knew.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
I don't know if everybody else did, but I feel
comfortable telling you that, yes, I was one of the
people that probably thought that we'd be this good.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Well, and you've been with volleyball for seven years. You've
seen a lot of great volleyball at Kentucky in nationwide.
Did you see in Cassie O'Brien what she has shown
near this season? Did you see that preseason?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I just I think well, Number one, the thing that
people have to realize is Avasarova won the starting settings
up and I know that that was two months ago,
but we have to remember that. You know, Cassie was
not selected as the starter for the beginning of the season,
and that you know, so many things go into that dick.
As you know, it's not just what is good, but
what's best for the team long term. How can we
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win the matches that we need to a non conference
because you don't want to lose all those matches even
if you don't have the setter that you want, the
setter that you envision. You know, Ava had some experience,
Cassie had none. Ava has had three year work on
connections with hitters. Cassie had had five months. So Cassie
has shown bill developed her connection with her hitters as
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the season has gone on, and she will tell you
she's a way different than she was they and even
I would argue the last I mean, the last five
matches were hitting a little over to me. And in
a league that is defensive oriented, that's a really strong number,
you know. So I just the album of Asolute incredibly
impressive for a response after at Mississippi State match that
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you know, we won, but wasn't you know, lighting the
world on fire. I don't think they were happy with
the way that they played. So Cassie has shown the
ability to grow well and she's done it, you know,
as Cassie can, with a smile on her face and
a happy, go lucky attitude and coming in the gym
every day with an expectation of getting better.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Certainly it helps that she's setting Brooklyn delay.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
But now here comes Eva Hudson transferring in from Purdue,
Lizzie Carr transferring in from Purdue.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
So you know, she's setting some pretty good players.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I mean, that's a huge help, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
It's a huge help. And not only are they great
with their experience, I mean from the junior but she's
had two full entire years of swinging. Eva Hudson has
played four years at Purdue in the Big Ten, and
the best spears and they so, yeah, she has a
lot of help from Brooklyn and Eva. And if you
look our middle connection, which was a real good question
mark in August, in early September, that is pretty much
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developed into a really firepowerful offensive weapon for US. I mean,
if you look at the let excuse me, you look
at for Baltima, Kennedy, Washington. Lizzie called all three of them,
we consider three starters. You play play for two, but
you know, we consider all three of them to be
the level of starters, right, And they're all averaging really
strong numbers when they've gotten into matches, and that opens
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up the pens for even Brooklyn to feats. And so
that's been really fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Talking to Chris Shols, he is with UK Sports Information,
basically the pr man for UK Volleyball. The wild catch
taking on Vanderbilt tonight then Texas on Sunday. The eyes
of the nation will be upon that match. But you
got to take care Vanderbilt tonight, Vandy resuming volleyball, play
women's volleyball for the first time since.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
The early eighties.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
And you know who you're you gonna call, Well, they
called Andrews Nelson. You know the Craigs, Skinner's top assistant,
and Anders a great recruiter and an excellent tactician, And
you've got to think Vanderbilt it's not going to take
long for him to get things going down there, right.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
No, I think.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I mean, they've had some really unfortunate breaks with injury
and roster personnel. They're a better team than one and nine.
You know, they took a set off Kansas on the
only week of the first resumption of their program in
over twenty five years, so I think.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
That be really good.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
I don't think it's going to take Oners very long. Obviously,
he's not having the record that he would have won
it this year. But to your point that you said earlier,
you know, when you're in a championship hunt, every match
is the most important one. It's the next one that's
the most important. And then I think Kentucky will tell
you their significant edge when it comes to just straight
up talent. But that talent has to assemble and there's
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a big match on Sunday looming that you know you
don't want to get distracted from. But Bandy's gonna present
some challenges. There's nothing I don't think that Bandy presents
that Kentucky can't figure out. But it's not going to
be just to roll the ball out situation and figure out,
you know, how to solve that. We're going to have
to do a lot of problem solving ourselves and make
sure that we take Vanderbilt with seriously. And then additionally,
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there's gonna be a lot of emotion, like you said,
with anders coming back, A Johnny Peeler is on his staff.
A Johnnie is one of the most beloved figures in
my time, at least with Kentucky's ball, both on and
off the court, and I think that there's gonna be
some emotion blowing there. But it'll be a fun match.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Everybody wants a piece of Kentucky now. And Texas was
supposed to blow into the league last year and win
the championship and lo and behold, Kentucky blew right by
him and won the title.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
So they're kind of used to that, aren't they.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
They are, And it's gonna be I mean, I cannot
tell you how excited I am for that match on
so many different levels. I think the first level is
it is going to be the match of the year
in the regular season in college volleyball. The Big Ten,
unfortunately for them, has lost a little bit of juice
with their bell cow Nebraska versus Wisconsin which is this
weekend as well, but Wisconsin's had a better injury. It's
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really hurt results and they're not one hundred percent for Nebraska.
And if you're gonna give Nebraska a run this year,
you better be more than one hundred percent at a
health wise, So that takes a little bit of juice
out of that. You know, Pitt and Louisville they play twice,
so I think that takes a little bit of the
juices out of that match. So this one really is
going to be epically fine. I think being on the
road in Austin for the first time a member of
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the SEC is going to be electric Dick. They are
sold out and I can actually tell you that the
secondary ticket market prices the lowest ticket right now is
over seven hundred and ninety dollars confirmed that yesterday, and
the upper like the upper level prices are going in
the thousand and that's on seat geek. We confirmed it
and looked at it, and there are people that are
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begging down the doors to get into Gregory Gymnasium on Sunday.
It's going to be elevated. It's you know, it was
elevated to an ESPN broadcast earlier this year. The Final
Four crew.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Is calling it.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
It's just it's a really big opportunity for Kentucky and
Texas to really make a statement for the sport on
a national scene.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
That is fair fantastic, Chris, thanks so much, Good luck tonight,
and have a great.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Trip to Austin.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Thanks buddy, I appreciate it and we look forward to it.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Up next to Andy Burcham of the Auburn Network here
on the Leech Report. Welcome back to the Leach Report.
Dick Gabriel sitting in for the voice, and we are
joined now by the voice of Auburn Football, the veteran
Andy Bircham down on the planes.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Good morning Andy.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Today, I'm well.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Auburn gets off the schneid last week and beats Arkansas.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
On the road. I will ask you this in all sincerity, Hey,
what's that like?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Because Kentucky is still looking for that first SEC win
had to be such a relief and a great plane
ride home.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Well, relief was probably the best way to put it.
Because Auburn had been so close in four straight SEC
games until last Saturday and found a way to win
a fourth quarter, and that was the big difference. Auburn
had been in each of those four losses before going
into the fourth court. As a matter of fact, had
the ball in the fourth quarter and all four of
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those losses with an opportunity to win it and just
didn't do anything with it. And yet last week Auburn
was able to win that fourth quarter, thanks in great
measure to Auburn's defense, which forced turnovers on Arkansas's last
four drives, three interceptions, including a pick six.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
And a fumble.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, yeah, pays off, you know. But they just kept grinding,
didn't they. They just never gave up.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
No, And that's you know, I think that the character
of this ball club, in spite of how frustrating it
is to come with those losses to Oklahoma and Texas
A and M and Missouri in Georgia, this ball club
stayed with it, found a way to win a ball
game on Saturday. And now we'll see what happens tomorrow
night when when the Tuckey rolls into town.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, and you read my mind.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I was going to ask you about character at least
talk about that, because you get out of the gate
with three straight wins, including an opener at Baylor, which
is never easy, but like Kentucky and probably more so,
just a brutal schedule with four straight teams that are
right now all in the top fifteen, and you mentioned
in Oklahoma and m Georgia, Miszoo and never gave up Andy,
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as you know, more than.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Twenty four points.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
How did they keep from from hanging their heads because
lesser teams might have thrown it in?
Speaker 5 (28:23):
You know, I think it goes to the character of
the leadership of this Auburn club, to the coaching staff
as well, in spite of all the top scorreling around
the future of this Auburn program.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Sure, but the.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Defense has other than perhaps the Baylor game where where
Auburn got let up pretty good from the in the
passing department, since that point, this defense has been stout
for Auburn, and especially against the run. Other than Texas
A and M, this Auburn team has just been very,
very good against the opponent's run game, including last week
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against an Arkansas team that led the SEC in offense
and Auburn just completely shut down Arkansas and in the
run game especially, and that that has been the mark
of this Auburn defense all season long.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Well do you know about Kentucky other than as you mentioned.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
The strife up here about the situation with Mark Stoops,
But just doing your prep work, what have you found
out about UK?
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Good offensive line I think, and a veteran offensive line.
That's the one thing that jumps off the page about
this The way Carter Bolli has played in his last
two weeks thirty one and thirty nine against Texas and
the overtime loss, and then three hundred and thirty yards
passing in the lost last week to Tennessee. That is
that gets my attention. The fact that it looks like
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Seth McGowan is back this week for UK after missing
the game last week. I here's a question. The Wildcats
missed McGowan in addition to Dante Daldell at the tailback spot.
So that's a couple of things. I like. The way
that that that that Kentucky uses his tight ends with
Rod Reaganz and Caddis especially uh with with their number
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of UH and and and a tight end is one
thing that I wouldn't say it's a soft spot for Auburn.
But tight ends have been successful against this Auburn defense,
and there haven't been many, but but the way that
the teams have used the tight end against this defense.
So that's a couple of things that that that strikes
me about Kentucky. I like on defense. I like KAfari
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obviously with his forty two cap tackles and three and
a half tackles for loss. Auburn has faced some really
good defensive fronts, and none better I think than Oklahoma
uh In Norman. Earlier this year they came up with
nine sacks in the in that ball game against Sovereign
and since since then, it has been the linebackers that
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jump off the page to me. I like the size
of the corners for Kentucky at six three and sixty three.
So those are a couple of things that kind of
stand out. And the kicking game and Jacob Cowway and
ten of thirteen on the season. I'm sure that they'd
prefer that he doesn't have that many field goal attempts,
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but he has been very, very successful for the Wildkheads.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
A couple of minutes ouf with Andy Bircham. He's the
radio voice of the Auburn Tigers. Tell me about Auburn's
quarterback situation.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
It's a great question and we don't have a definitive
answer on who will be the starter tomorrow night. I
think Auburn is leading to Ashton Daniels, who came in
at the end of the first half last week, and
then quarterback Auburn in the second half comeback down eleven
at Arkansas last week. A senior graduated from Stanford in
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the spring, got to Auburn this summer and was is
six of eight. Was six of eight last week for
seventy seven yards. Nothing spectacular from an offensive standpoint, just
ran the Auburn offense, and the Auburn offense when it
has been most successful this season has been the run game,
and Jeremiah Cobb has stepped up for Auburn career high
twenty eight carries for one hundred and fifty three yards
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last week at Arkansas. Hugh Prize has not named the
starter yet. It will either be Ashton Daniels or Jackson Ronald.
I'm guessing then it'll be Ashton Daniels that gets to
start tomorrow night against the Cats.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Jackson Arnold a threat to run the football. What about
Daniels or is he strictly dropped back.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
No, he is a dual threat quarterback and at good
size at sixty two and nineteen pounds, and I like
his makeup. He has the ability to run the football,
no question about that, and we didn't get to see
a whole lot of that last week, but he has
that ability at all. Three of Water's quarterbacks have that ability,
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including Jackson Ronald and the outstanding freshman duce Knight, who
has played in just one game this season. But no,
I mean, if you're an Auburn quarterback these days, you
better have the ability to run the football, and Daniels
has that.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Defensively, Auburn's got the current Ronco Negirsky Player of the
Week award winner, doesn't it.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Yeah. Dave Atkins has just been terrific for Auburn to
transfer in from LSU, and in his last three games
has set career highs and tackles in all three of
those games and a week ago thirteen tackles, four tackles
for lost, two sacks, and he forced to fumble against Arkansas.
And he has just taken over for Auburn at the
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linebacker spot. Six not a big guy and that's probably
worked against him a little bit, but not at Auburn.
He has been outstanding for Auburn. Has mentioned three straight
games where he has set career highs and tackles, So
he has been a great find for this Auburn ball
club after transferring in from LSU.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Got about thirty seconds, Andy, But it's been a rough season.
What kind of crowd do we expect tomorrow night? Because
we know Tiger fans love their football.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Yeah, it'll be a twenty first executive sellout at Jerdan
Air Stadium. Tickets are already sold. A night game at
jren and here is supposed to be a beautiful leaving
for football. No mention of rating in the forecast. I
think it'll be a great atmosphere. I think it'll be
a packed house in spite of a tough season thus far,
which speaks to the Auburn family and their support of
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this football team. But I think it'll be a big,
big crowd for Auburn and Kentucky tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Well, as you know, the last time we came down
there was COVID year.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
That was not fun, So it should be a lot
more fun in terms of the atmosphere this time. Andy,
looking forward to seeing you. Thank you so much for
your time and we hope it's a great game.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Thanks so much, appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Dick, you have a great day. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
All right, that's Andy Bircham of the Auburn Network and
we'll come back.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
And wrap up this edition of the Leach Report.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Thanks again to all of our guests, Andy Bircham, Chris
Scholes and Cameron Mills.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
This Day in UK History presented.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
By UK road Show Sports Cards and Memorabilia and Lexid
and learn more about them at roadshowcards dot com. By
the way, Happy Halloween everybody. And what I remember about
this particular game on Halloween nineteen ninety two, Pooky Jones
set a record for passing yards by a UK quarterback
at Kroger Field and it was three hundred and fifty
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seven yards and a loss to Mississippi State. And what
I remember most about that game was, prior to Tim
Couch's arrival in Lexington, that was the single greatest game
I had ever seen a UK quarterback play at Commonwealth Stadium.
Pookie Jones was unbelievable. Unfortunately, Mississippi State drove for a
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late touchdown and drove and got a late two point
conversion to take a lead, but Kentucky, which had driven
the Boss successfully all night long, drove down and set
up for the game winning field goal by Doug Pelfrey,
who was absolutely money. That may have been the all
time greatest UK kicker, but State blocked it. And that
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was back at a time when as the sidelines reporter,
I used to stand under the goal post and they
would toss it down to me. Or actually, I take
that back, they used to toss it down to my predecessor,
a guy named Rick Shaw, and Kate would Ledford had
asked me, hey, can we go back to doing it
in the traditional way when I joined a network?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
And I said, well, of course, kay, but whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
But then night Ralph Hacker was calling the game and
Ralph told me get under the goal post.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
You're going to see it first, you call it.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
So I said, okay, great, and all that came out
of my mouth was blocked, and then Ralph took it
because I had nothing more to say. But that was
a great game by Pooky, sadly and the loss for
the Wildcats.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
A happy birthday to.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Van Hiles, the one and only v Styles you hear
him on the Leech Report each week. He's on my
show in the Big Blue Insider, former Kentucky defensive back
and a guy who with his cutups on the internet
on Twitter, teaches us all about football. Man is a
passionate Kentucky and living in his home state of Louisiana now,
but studies of course, every game has the video breaks
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things down and I have learned more football from Van
and he's so much fun to talk talk to. And
Tom doesn't always have the time to talk about this
with Van, but every now and then I get him
to talk about grilling. He is a grill master and
he has all kinds of hints and tips about what
the grill, how to do it, how to prepare for
your tailgate party or watch party. So hit him up
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on Twitter if you want to know more about it.
Also the birthday of UK former assistant men's basketball coach
Gail Catlet. He was born on this day and Gail
Catlet is as vintage Kentucky fans can tell you.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Was an assistant under eight.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Off Rup and when Rupp was being forced to retire,
the fan base was kind of divided.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Some of them wanted Joe b Some of them wanted
Gail Catlet.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Gail didn't get the job. He went on to West
Virginia and a very successful career coaching the Mountaineers.
Dick Gabriel sitting in for the voice Tom doing some
last minute work as we prepare the UK Radio Network to.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Head for Auburn.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Wildcats, of course taking on the Tigers tomorrow. We'll
talk about that in just a moment here on the
Leads Report, presented by Bob Kat Enterprises.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Today we will talk about last night's Kentucky basketball game.
Wasn't pretty, was it?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
We'll chat with Cameron Mills of the UK Radio Network.
Kentucky volleyball with a huge.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Weekend coming up.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Tonight, the Wildcats take on Vanderbilt, which is only one
one sec match. Vandy hasn't played women's volleyball since the
early eighties. They have renovated their program. They hired Anders Nelson,
the Kentucky's top assistant to build their program. So the
Cats should roll tonight. But they take on second ranked
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Texas in Austin on Sunday. Wildcats are ranked third and
so we will talk with the UKPR man Chris Schulz
about that, and then we'll learn more about the Auburn
football Tigers from Andy Bircham of the Arbor Radio Network.
So it's a full slate today for the Leads Report.
Wildcat News of the Day, of course, presented by Giuseppe's
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of Lexington. And you know that it was not pretty
last night, the Wildcats falling to Georgetown eighty four to seventy.
And it was weird because Georgetown took the lead about
midway through the first half and never look back. There
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were five ties, six lead changes. Kentucky was up nineteen sixteen.
Next thing you know, Georgetown scored seven straight never trailed again.
In fact, Georgetown led by as many as ten in
the first.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Half seven at halftime.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Kentucky saw Georgetown run off to a seventeen point lead
with ten and a half and it's left Georgetown never
trailed by less than double digits in the second half.
Kentucky got there within ten at sixty six fifty six, but.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Could not get any closer.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And we'll talk with Cameron more about this, but the
defense just wasn't there, and it was pretty apparent that
Kentucky was not going able to put together.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Stop after stop after stop that it.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Was going to take to climb back into this game
and eventually win it. So it became the first exhibition
loss for Kentucky since August of twenty fourteen. That was
a loss to the Dominican Republic in the final game
at a twenty fourteen Big Blue Bahamas exhibition tour. Now
that team, fourteen to fifteen team, excuse me, all.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It did was run off a thirty eight game winning
streak after that. I'm not saying this team will do that.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
But losses like this can be learning experience. There's no
question about that. Mark Pope, if you heard him after
the game, he didn't have much voice left. He was
just despondent and said, it's no good. Anytime you lose,
you can learn from it. Buddy said, this is not
good to space es actually here, meaning Reperena, which is
where Georgetown now.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Has won two straight games.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Georgetown is two and zero against Kentucky, but that first
game painful memory came in Seattle to nineteen eighty four
in the Final four. The following year, Georgetown in Rapperina
loses to Villan Nova, but the Wildcats and the Hoyas
this was the first time they had met in Lexington.
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Kentucky opens the regular season Tuesday at home against Nicols,
game time seven pm. You will hear that game right
here on most of these same UK Network stations with
pregames starting at five thirty. UK men's soccer with a
big one tonight. It is Senior Night. They take on
the Georgia State Panthers and a Halloween.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Matchup at the Bell.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Kentucky is now ranked eighteenth in the country and it
should be fun. It always is regardless of the weather.
UK soccer at the Bell is a blast. Football Wildcats
hitting the Tomorrow night's seven thirty. We'll have it for
you on most of these same stations five thirty pre game.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Wildcats still looking for their first SEC victory.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Arburn got its first win last week against Arkansas thanks
to four razorback turnovers in the fourth quarter. So if
the Cats can force some turnovers, maybe they.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Can pull the upset down on the planes.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Links to these stories are on the bud Light Leach
Report page at Tom leachky dot com. And when we
come back, Cameron Mills of the UK Radio Network will
dissect last night's lost to those George chwanhoy is that's
coming up next on the Leach Report.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Welcome back to the Leech Report.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Dick Gabrielle sitting in for the Voice coming to you
from the Clark's pumpin Shop studio, which looks suspiciously.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Like my garage this morning.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Filling in for Tom and joining us now is the
two time national champion Cameron Mills, A good friend.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Mark Pope, former teammate. Cameron. Good morning, sir, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
What did this bait and switch? Well, we thought we
was surprised you to talk, expected to talk to the
legend this morning.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I'm talking, I know, and and you're stuck with me,
and I was you.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yes, I don't think you didn't want to use you're
happy about it.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Well, keep that that list of ad libs handy, then
you're going to need to carry it. What were your
thoughts as you and again, you know, with all fairness, Cameron,
a terrific shooter, never a defensive specialist.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Defense was a problem last night.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
What what were your thoughts as that game unfolded?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I you know, I kept going back to two things.
As good as we were against Purdue, we were as
I don't want to say bad, but maybe that's the
right adject why we we were. We were we were
as bad as we were last night. You know, you go,
you go coming the main stats and you know we
we weren't. We didn't shoot them all particularly well, especially
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from the three we did. We did do better from
the foul on than they did. They shot the ball
better than we did. But then like those key stats,
that one in particular the bench points, I mean bench
points against Purdue, I think it was like I want
to say, it was like thirty two to twenty, maybe
forty two, others thirty eight, thirty two to twenty. Complete
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reversal of that last night, yep. So our bench didn't
show up or just had difficulty getting in the scoring column.
And then you know, points in the paint. They drugged
us some points of the paint. So you know, you
look at those stats and you're like, Okay, well here
here's the problem. Because the things that you know, we
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identified last night on on the pregame show is, you know,
here's the reason we were able to beat Purdue. Weach
didn't duplicate it against a you know, presumably far less
talented and and and far worst team in Georgetown. I
think I think we said they were Ken Palm ranked,
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and and you know how I feel about rankings at
this point the season. But kem Plomb at least has
some statistical you know, analysis to it. But Kim Palm
had him at like eighty second in the country something
like that. So I think the big thing of all
of that, because you know, you can get into the
weeds and dissect all the statistics. But the one thing
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that I go back to is, Okay, we came out
against Purdue with confidence, but not arrogance. And that's the thing.
You know, everybody talks about swagger, and they want to
see the swagger. I don't want to see the swagger.
I want to see this like silently take the court
knowing that we're the better team, silently play the game
to a degree, knowing that we're the better team, and
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just prove it with the scoreboard. I always love seeing
that because it just it smacks of professionalism. It's like,
this is what teams who know they're the best in
the country do. Now when you go against Purdue and
they're you know, preseason number one, I don't know that.
I didn't know that we would do that, but we did.
I mean, you know, it's it's new of a team
as we are, and we're everybody is Purdue, not necessarily,
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but we just came out and we just owned them
for thirty nine minutes of that forty minute game. Yeah,
last night was the beat reversal. So I wonder if
there wasn't a lot of you know, how good are we?
We don't know. Let's play Purdue, They're the number one team.
Oh we beat them, so we're we're about far the
best team in the country. And then we take the
court against a eighty six quo quote unquote ranked Georgetown team,
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and we take it with swagger, we take it with arrogance.
We don't think we've got to do the little things
that we did to beat Purdue to beat Georgetown, and
you do. You have to do it every night. So
the biggest thing I take from this is that what
Mark Pope wanted from the Purdue game a lesson we
got last night against Georgetown.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, you know, and this is a Kentucky team.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
And by the way, people point out, yea, they were
down three starters, but they were down two starters against Purdue.
You know, average he didn't play last night, but he
did against Purdue.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
But just a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I mean at the free throw line, six of thirteen
in the first half, much better in the second half,
but in the second half zero for thirteen from distance.
And meanwhile, hello, you're not guarding well enough, Georgetown shot
fifty six percent in the first half fifty four in
the second half, and we had been at the you
weren't there, I know, but at the practice where media
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people brought a friend or relative, we could hear Mark
Pope saying we could be the best defensive team in
the country if we'll just communicate on switching.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Well, this was far.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
From the best Kentucky effort, much less best in the country.
It comes back to defense every time.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
You know what's weird about that particular part of defense,
the communication, the switching in particular, is that every practice
I've been to this year, I'll go back further than that,
every practice I was at with Mark Pope as a teammate,
he was the most loquacious. I mean talking literally to
the point where coach Fatino had to tell him Mark,
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shut up, No, you're talking too much, right because he
would he would I'm not a jaggerated he would talk
about I mean, he wouldn't do it. It wasn't like
he was in conversations, but he would just he was always,
you know, vocalizing something not necessarily I mean, he would
vocalize when he needed to about switching. And hey, whose man?
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Whose man? That kind of stuff. But he was always
kind of vocalizing. And every practice I've been to this year,
the team has done that. I mean, I want to say,
maybe three weeks ago, I went to a practice and
I was sitting next to J. P. Blevins, and we
both kind of were noticing at the same time that
there's more chatter in this practice than you know, I
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was comfortable with from a standpoint of at our practice
other than the players, and that's who was doing the chattering.
But it was quiet. I mean, you could hear him.
You could hear a pin drop in our practice other
than coach Patino, except for you know, calling out screens,
calling out men, you know, making sure you know you
point guards, communicating to the whole team on defense and offense,
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all that stuff. These guys it's not just the point guard.
I mean at that practice in particular, they're all communicating.
And I mean communicating I mean as though that was
the main point of emphasis going into that practice. And
then against produced same thing. So you get the idea that, Okay,
that's what this team's among other things, that's what this
team's gonna be good at. They're gonna be good at communicating.
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Mark Pope has said this year in particular, he got
had more time with the guys. He had more guys
who were here last year, so we didn't have to
start from scratch completely and teach them, you know, offense first.
Now he could focus on defense first. And so they
were and I think they are a better defensive team
they were last year, and I think they will be
a better defensive team to the live team as they played.
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But again, I go back to the one thing. You
have to take the court with the same intensity, the
same consistency. I don't care who you play. This was
back in the old days when this was Athletes and
A and the Italian national team three. You know the
exhibitions that we played. You know we might have gotten
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beat by them last night. Then you know the story
as well as I do, because Marcus talked about it. Mark.
Mark told the story when you and I did did
the ninety six Treen Year Reunion Reunion anniversary. He talked
about going against Athletes in Action the ninety sixth season
the year will you know we only lost two games,
but that opening four minutes of the Athletes Action exhibition
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game where coach is furious because we have not taken
the core the court with domination, uh pretty much. And
he calls the time out and does his little clap
thing and smile and waving us over. And that is
that is signifying just terror for all of us, because
if he's he and has called the time out, I mean,
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everybody's getting ready to use and lose a jugular. I
mean it's gonna be a blood bath over in that huddle.
And so he goes over and he's smacking water with
his you know, his final four ring on the knee,
you know, and it just erupts to the point where
Mark tells the great part of the story is that
when they retake the court, Walt, who's six foot ten, skinny,
he's a reb with six foot ten, huddles everybody up
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and then this frightened childlike voice goes, guys, we got
a success. I mean that is what we did last night.
We took the court with the same sort of h
and I think, don't even it makes sense to me,
is that it came down to just we took the
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court with arrogance instead of confidence.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
We've got a break come back in a couple more
minutes with Cameron Mills of the UK Network. Next here
on The Leach Report. Welcome back to the Leach Report.
Dick Gaberline for the Voice for chatting with Cameron Mills.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Of the UK Radio neworked at two time championship winning Guard.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
And was not, of course, pleased with what he saw
last night, knowing Mark Pope the way you know him, though, Cameron, you.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Talk about teaching moments, right, I mean not, this ain't
going to be fun.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Well, you know, here's the thing he said, and I
mentioned this fort This is the difference, and this is
what I love about this new NCAA rule that he
wasn't able to take advantage of last year because we
still had kind of a typical exhibition season last year
where you're looking at, you know, for example, coach Calipari
down at Arkansas. I think they played Kansas in one
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of their exhibitions, and I didn't even know this rule
had changed. So I'm looking at that thinking, well, that's odd.
And apparently you could play teams like this privately in exhibitions,
which I mean, I guess that makes some sense because
again you're getting out of what Pope wanted out of
the two exhibitions, which is you get to see exactly
where you are. You're not playing against each other because
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everybody's tired of playing against each other at this point
in the season anyway, So you go against someone else
and both teams get all right, here's your benchmark. But
I think we exceeded the benchmark against Perdue, and so
I don't know, because you know, you and I have
talked about this a lot dicker over the years, is
how important losing is when you're trying to teach a
(15:04):
team something, because if coaches, coaches can be emphasizing let's say,
for example, it's points in the paint. All right, let's
let's let's take a defensive steck. Let's say you know
in well, I can't use the vernacular or more Pope
because he uses all these strange, bizarre basketball world words
that I've never heard. But let's say it's got something
to do with you're close out. Guys. We're a week
(15:25):
close out team. We're not getting to the shooters fast enough.
You know, we're going too far deep on help defense,
and we're not closing out properly. We're not closing out I.
We're not closing out well. The way we used to,
which which is kind of with a stutter step to
prevent them from hopefully preventing them from driving by us.
They have a different philosophy, but we're a week close
out team. Well, here's the thing. If you if you
(15:47):
play a team like we did in Purdue and they
don't shoot particularly well, okay, or more importantly, let's say
they do shoot particularly well, but we still win so easily.
The coaches can ran all they want, we're not really
listening because we won, and we won easily. Well, last
night is what Mark wanted out of the exhibition season.
(16:09):
I honestly don't think he expected to win against Purdue.
I mean a lot of us kind of were like, well,
I mean, they're supposing the number one team, so I mean,
I mean, maybe you could, but I don't think anyone
expected us to basically own them for forty minutes. But
last night, and Mark concluded. Because Mark was even kind
of like, you know, during the you know, when he
(16:30):
and Tom sadown and they do their interview, we were
kind of all standing around listening to him talk, and
then they were done, and he was kind of just
you know, answering questions from the ESPN or SEC network crew,
and he was basically just kind of saying, you know, look,
we've not installed everything yet, We've not even done And
this is the thing that stood out to me, Dick.
(16:50):
We've not even done a full scout right, which to
me was odd because I don't know if it was
a Okay, we don't want to overwhelm them with information
right now, we want to eat. Look, coach Betino's I
mean the scouts we got were forty pages front and back,
you know, font size number eight. I mean, it's they
(17:11):
were just shocked full of information. So maybe Mark didn't
want to overwhelm them. I think he did the same
thing last night. I think I heard that that again,
not a full scout, So you know, I think part
of it was, Okay, we want to scout on certain
things that we feel like we need to get better at. Well,
we didn't win. Again, it doesn't count in the in
(17:31):
the first column or I guess in the official record book,
but it absolutely counts mountains for being able to go
into today, tomorrow, this weekend, next week, before the first
the first game against Nichols and fix those things because
you cannot as a player, you can't argue with your
coach anymore. You can't silently object to what he's saying.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
But I gotta go, brother, good talking on man. Stay
tuned for more of the Leach Report. The Leach Report
presented by Bobcat Enterprises with four lowkeyations in Kentucky. When
you need to rent or buy heavy equipment, Bobcat Enterprises
needs to be your only call. We're joined now by
Chris Sholz of UK Sports Information Works with UK Volleyball
Wildcats with a match tonight against Vanderbilt here in Lexingon
(18:14):
then Sunday at Texas. Chris, you got a big one
tonight because you're undefeated and I know Vanderbilt is not
a power yet in the conference. But you've got to
stay unblemished because you've got a big match coming up
with Texas. We're gonna look ahead because we can do that,
we're media people.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
But this is a really special Kentucky team. We'll talk
about Vandy in a minute. But you knew that you
were going to be good at Brooklyn delay coming back,
you had a lot of other players coming back, and
you added through the portal. But did you think this
team would be this good?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I really I don't think. I think most of the
national people would have told you that we'd be improved,
but we had a lot of things to work on.
I thought we would be this good personally, and I
felt like I was validated on opening weekends when we
played Nebrastice. But you, I think a big part of
I would this team grow because everybody was in Lexington
(19:15):
beginning in Sanuary. That's unique for volleyball. But all of
our freshmen came in early, they olderly, our transfers were
here in time, so we came back to school in
springing camp everybody and there was no new addition. We
knew the pieces of the puzzle.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
That we had.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
We had already begun to We had already begun to
assemble that puzzle in the spring. So yeah, I wasn't proud.
I knew this team was special. I've seen it kind
of had toe compared to everybody else because I saw
the practices and things like that. I knew the talent
that was in the gym, So yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I knew.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
I don't know if everybody else did, but I feel
comfortable telling you that, yes, I was one of the
people that probably thought that we'd be this good.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Well, and you've been with volleyball for seven years. You've
seen a lot of great volleyball at Kentucky in nationwide.
Did you see in Cassie O'Brien what she has shown
near this season? Did you see that preseason?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I just I think well, Number one, the thing that
people have to realize is Avasarova won the starting settings
up and I know that that was two months ago,
but we have to remember that. You know, Cassie was
not selected as the starter for the beginning of the season,
and that you know, so many things go into that dick.
As you know, it's not just what is good, but
what's best for the team long term. How can we
(20:32):
win the matches that we need to a non conference
because you don't want to lose all those matches even
if you don't have the setter that you want, the
setter that you envision. You know, Ava had some experience,
Cassie had none. Ava has had three year work on
connections with hitters. Cassie had had five months. So Cassie
has shown bill developed her connection with her hitters as
(20:54):
the season has gone on, and she will tell you
she's a way different than she was they and even
I would argue the last I mean, the last five
matches were hitting a little over to me. And in
a league that is defensive oriented, that's a really strong number,
you know. So I just the album of Asolute incredibly
impressive for a response after at Mississippi State match that
(21:17):
you know, we won, but wasn't you know, lighting the
world on fire. I don't think they were happy with
the way that they played. So Cassie has shown the
ability to grow well and she's done it, you know,
as Cassie can, with a smile on her face and
a happy, go lucky attitude and coming in the gym
every day with an expectation of getting better.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Certainly it helps that she's setting Brooklyn delay.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
But now here comes Eva Hudson transferring in from Purdue,
Lizzie Carr transferring in from Purdue.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
So you know, she's setting some pretty good players.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I mean, that's a huge help, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
It's a huge help. And not only are they great
with their experience, I mean from the junior but she's
had two full entire years of swinging. Eva Hudson has
played four years at Purdue in the Big Ten, and
the best spears and they so, yeah, she has a
lot of help from Brooklyn and Eva. And if you
look our middle connection, which was a real good question
mark in August, in early September, that is pretty much
(22:10):
developed into a really firepowerful offensive weapon for US. I mean,
if you look at the let excuse me, you look
at for Baltima, Kennedy, Washington. Lizzie called all three of them,
we consider three starters. You play play for two, but
you know, we consider all three of them to be
the level of starters, right, And they're all averaging really
strong numbers when they've gotten into matches, and that opens
(22:30):
up the pens for even Brooklyn to feats. And so
that's been really fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Talking to Chris Shols, he is with UK Sports Information,
basically the pr man for UK Volleyball. The wild catch
taking on Vanderbilt tonight then Texas on Sunday. The eyes
of the nation will be upon that match. But you
got to take care Vanderbilt tonight, Vandy resuming volleyball, play
women's volleyball for the first time since.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
The early eighties.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
And you know who you're you gonna call, Well, they
called Andrews Nelson. You know the Craigs, Skinner's top assistant,
and Anders a great recruiter and an excellent tactician, And
you've got to think Vanderbilt it's not going to take
long for him to get things going down there, right.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
No, I think.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I mean, they've had some really unfortunate breaks with injury
and roster personnel. They're a better team than one and nine.
You know, they took a set off Kansas on the
only week of the first resumption of their program in
over twenty five years, so I think.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
That be really good.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
I don't think it's going to take Oners very long. Obviously,
he's not having the record that he would have won
it this year. But to your point that you said earlier,
you know, when you're in a championship hunt, every match
is the most important one. It's the next one that's
the most important. And then I think Kentucky will tell
you their significant edge when it comes to just straight
up talent. But that talent has to assemble and there's
(23:48):
a big match on Sunday looming that you know you
don't want to get distracted from. But Bandy's gonna present
some challenges. There's nothing I don't think that Bandy presents
that Kentucky can't figure out. But it's not going to
be just to roll the ball out situation and figure out,
you know, how to solve that. We're going to have
to do a lot of problem solving ourselves and make
sure that we take Vanderbilt with seriously. And then additionally,
(24:09):
there's gonna be a lot of emotion, like you said,
with anders coming back, A Johnny Peeler is on his staff.
A Johnnie is one of the most beloved figures in
my time, at least with Kentucky's ball, both on and
off the court, and I think that there's gonna be
some emotion blowing there. But it'll be a fun match.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Everybody wants a piece of Kentucky now. And Texas was
supposed to blow into the league last year and win
the championship and lo and behold, Kentucky blew right by
him and won the title.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
So they're kind of used to that, aren't they.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
They are, And it's gonna be I mean, I cannot
tell you how excited I am for that match on
so many different levels. I think the first level is
it is going to be the match of the year
in the regular season in college volleyball. The Big Ten,
unfortunately for them, has lost a little bit of juice
with their bell cow Nebraska versus Wisconsin which is this
weekend as well, but Wisconsin's had a better injury. It's
(25:00):
really hurt results and they're not one hundred percent for Nebraska.
And if you're gonna give Nebraska a run this year,
you better be more than one hundred percent at a
health wise, So that takes a little bit of juice
out of that. You know, Pitt and Louisville they play twice,
so I think that takes a little bit of the
juices out of that match. So this one really is
going to be epically fine. I think being on the
road in Austin for the first time a member of
(25:21):
the SEC is going to be electric Dick. They are
sold out and I can actually tell you that the
secondary ticket market prices the lowest ticket right now is
over seven hundred and ninety dollars confirmed that yesterday, and
the upper like the upper level prices are going in
the thousand and that's on seat geek. We confirmed it
and looked at it, and there are people that are
(25:43):
begging down the doors to get into Gregory Gymnasium on Sunday.
It's going to be elevated. It's you know, it was
elevated to an ESPN broadcast earlier this year. The Final
Four crew.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Is calling it.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
It's just it's a really big opportunity for Kentucky and
Texas to really make a statement for the sport on
a national scene.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
That is fair fantastic, Chris, thanks so much, Good luck tonight,
and have a great.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Trip to Austin.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Thanks buddy, I appreciate it and we look forward to it.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Up next to Andy Burcham of the Auburn Network here
on the Leech Report. Welcome back to the Leach Report.
Dick Gabriel sitting in for the voice, and we are
joined now by the voice of Auburn Football, the veteran
Andy Bircham down on the planes.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Good morning Andy.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Today, I'm well.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Auburn gets off the schneid last week and beats Arkansas.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
On the road. I will ask you this in all sincerity, Hey,
what's that like?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Because Kentucky is still looking for that first SEC win
had to be such a relief and a great plane
ride home.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Well, relief was probably the best way to put it.
Because Auburn had been so close in four straight SEC
games until last Saturday and found a way to win
a fourth quarter, and that was the big difference. Auburn
had been in each of those four losses before going
into the fourth court. As a matter of fact, had
the ball in the fourth quarter and all four of
(27:03):
those losses with an opportunity to win it and just
didn't do anything with it. And yet last week Auburn
was able to win that fourth quarter, thanks in great
measure to Auburn's defense, which forced turnovers on Arkansas's last
four drives, three interceptions, including a pick six.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
And a fumble.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, yeah, pays off, you know. But they just kept grinding,
didn't they. They just never gave up.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
No, And that's you know, I think that the character
of this ball club, in spite of how frustrating it
is to come with those losses to Oklahoma and Texas
A and M and Missouri in Georgia, this ball club
stayed with it, found a way to win a ball
game on Saturday. And now we'll see what happens tomorrow
night when when the Tuckey rolls into town.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, and you read my mind.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I was going to ask you about character at least
talk about that, because you get out of the gate
with three straight wins, including an opener at Baylor, which
is never easy, but like Kentucky and probably more so,
just a brutal schedule with four straight teams that are
right now all in the top fifteen, and you mentioned
in Oklahoma and m Georgia, Miszoo and never gave up Andy,
(28:13):
as you know, more than.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Twenty four points.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
How did they keep from from hanging their heads because
lesser teams might have thrown it in?
Speaker 5 (28:23):
You know, I think it goes to the character of
the leadership of this Auburn club, to the coaching staff
as well, in spite of all the top scorreling around
the future of this Auburn program.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Sure, but the.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Defense has other than perhaps the Baylor game where where
Auburn got let up pretty good from the in the
passing department, since that point, this defense has been stout
for Auburn, and especially against the run. Other than Texas
A and M, this Auburn team has just been very,
very good against the opponent's run game, including last week
(29:00):
against an Arkansas team that led the SEC in offense
and Auburn just completely shut down Arkansas and in the
run game especially, and that that has been the mark
of this Auburn defense all season long.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Well do you know about Kentucky other than as you mentioned.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
The strife up here about the situation with Mark Stoops,
But just doing your prep work, what have you found
out about UK?
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Good offensive line I think, and a veteran offensive line.
That's the one thing that jumps off the page about
this The way Carter Bolli has played in his last
two weeks thirty one and thirty nine against Texas and
the overtime loss, and then three hundred and thirty yards
passing in the lost last week to Tennessee. That is
that gets my attention. The fact that it looks like
(29:49):
Seth McGowan is back this week for UK after missing
the game last week. I here's a question. The Wildcats
missed McGowan in addition to Dante Daldell at the tailback spot.
So that's a couple of things. I like. The way
that that that that Kentucky uses his tight ends with
Rod Reaganz and Caddis especially uh with with their number
(30:11):
of UH and and and a tight end is one
thing that I wouldn't say it's a soft spot for Auburn.
But tight ends have been successful against this Auburn defense,
and there haven't been many, but but the way that
the teams have used the tight end against this defense.
So that's a couple of things that that that strikes
me about Kentucky. I like on defense. I like KAfari
(30:35):
obviously with his forty two cap tackles and three and
a half tackles for loss. Auburn has faced some really
good defensive fronts, and none better I think than Oklahoma
uh In Norman. Earlier this year they came up with
nine sacks in the in that ball game against Sovereign
and since since then, it has been the linebackers that
(30:56):
jump off the page to me. I like the size
of the corners for Kentucky at six three and sixty three.
So those are a couple of things that kind of
stand out. And the kicking game and Jacob Cowway and
ten of thirteen on the season. I'm sure that they'd
prefer that he doesn't have that many field goal attempts,
(31:17):
but he has been very, very successful for the Wildkheads.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
A couple of minutes ouf with Andy Bircham. He's the
radio voice of the Auburn Tigers. Tell me about Auburn's
quarterback situation.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
It's a great question and we don't have a definitive
answer on who will be the starter tomorrow night. I
think Auburn is leading to Ashton Daniels, who came in
at the end of the first half last week, and
then quarterback Auburn in the second half comeback down eleven
at Arkansas last week. A senior graduated from Stanford in
(31:48):
the spring, got to Auburn this summer and was is
six of eight. Was six of eight last week for
seventy seven yards. Nothing spectacular from an offensive standpoint, just
ran the Auburn offense, and the Auburn offense when it
has been most successful this season has been the run game,
and Jeremiah Cobb has stepped up for Auburn career high
twenty eight carries for one hundred and fifty three yards
(32:10):
last week at Arkansas. Hugh Prize has not named the
starter yet. It will either be Ashton Daniels or Jackson Ronald.
I'm guessing then it'll be Ashton Daniels that gets to
start tomorrow night against the Cats.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Jackson Arnold a threat to run the football. What about
Daniels or is he strictly dropped back.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
No, he is a dual threat quarterback and at good
size at sixty two and nineteen pounds, and I like
his makeup. He has the ability to run the football,
no question about that, and we didn't get to see
a whole lot of that last week, but he has
that ability at all. Three of Water's quarterbacks have that ability,
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including Jackson Ronald and the outstanding freshman duce Knight, who
has played in just one game this season. But no,
I mean, if you're an Auburn quarterback these days, you
better have the ability to run the football, and Daniels
has that.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Defensively, Auburn's got the current Ronco Negirsky Player of the
Week award winner, doesn't it.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Yeah. Dave Atkins has just been terrific for Auburn to
transfer in from LSU, and in his last three games
has set career highs and tackles in all three of
those games and a week ago thirteen tackles, four tackles
for lost, two sacks, and he forced to fumble against Arkansas.
And he has just taken over for Auburn at the
(33:31):
linebacker spot. Six not a big guy and that's probably
worked against him a little bit, but not at Auburn.
He has been outstanding for Auburn. Has mentioned three straight
games where he has set career highs and tackles, So
he has been a great find for this Auburn ball
club after transferring in from LSU.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Got about thirty seconds, Andy, But it's been a rough season.
What kind of crowd do we expect tomorrow night? Because
we know Tiger fans love their football.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Yeah, it'll be a twenty first executive sellout at Jerdan
Air Stadium. Tickets are already sold. A night game at
jren and here is supposed to be a beautiful leaving
for football. No mention of rating in the forecast. I
think it'll be a great atmosphere. I think it'll be
a packed house in spite of a tough season thus far,
which speaks to the Auburn family and their support of
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this football team. But I think it'll be a big,
big crowd for Auburn and Kentucky tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Well, as you know, the last time we came down
there was COVID year.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
That was not fun, So it should be a lot
more fun in terms of the atmosphere this time. Andy,
looking forward to seeing you. Thank you so much for
your time and we hope it's a great game.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Thanks so much, appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Dick, you have a great day. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
All right, that's Andy Bircham of the Auburn Network and
we'll come back.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
And wrap up this edition of the Leach Report.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Thanks again to all of our guests, Andy Bircham, Chris
Scholes and Cameron Mills.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
This Day in UK History presented.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
By UK road Show Sports Cards and Memorabilia and Lexid
and learn more about them at roadshowcards dot com. By
the way, Happy Halloween everybody. And what I remember about
this particular game on Halloween nineteen ninety two, Pooky Jones
set a record for passing yards by a UK quarterback
at Kroger Field and it was three hundred and fifty
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seven yards and a loss to Mississippi State. And what
I remember most about that game was, prior to Tim
Couch's arrival in Lexington, that was the single greatest game
I had ever seen a UK quarterback play at Commonwealth Stadium.
Pookie Jones was unbelievable. Unfortunately, Mississippi State drove for a
(35:37):
late touchdown and drove and got a late two point
conversion to take a lead, but Kentucky, which had driven
the Boss successfully all night long, drove down and set
up for the game winning field goal by Doug Pelfrey,
who was absolutely money. That may have been the all
time greatest UK kicker, but State blocked it. And that
(36:00):
was back at a time when as the sidelines reporter,
I used to stand under the goal post and they
would toss it down to me. Or actually, I take
that back, they used to toss it down to my predecessor,
a guy named Rick Shaw, and Kate would Ledford had
asked me, hey, can we go back to doing it
in the traditional way when I joined a network?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
And I said, well, of course, kay, but whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
But then night Ralph Hacker was calling the game and
Ralph told me get under the goal post.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
You're going to see it first, you call it.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
So I said, okay, great, and all that came out
of my mouth was blocked, and then Ralph took it
because I had nothing more to say. But that was
a great game by Pooky, sadly and the loss for
the Wildcats.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
A happy birthday to.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Van Hiles, the one and only v Styles you hear
him on the Leech Report each week. He's on my
show in the Big Blue Insider, former Kentucky defensive back
and a guy who with his cutups on the internet
on Twitter, teaches us all about football. Man is a
passionate Kentucky and living in his home state of Louisiana now,
but studies of course, every game has the video breaks
(37:07):
things down and I have learned more football from Van
and he's so much fun to talk talk to. And
Tom doesn't always have the time to talk about this
with Van, but every now and then I get him
to talk about grilling. He is a grill master and
he has all kinds of hints and tips about what
the grill, how to do it, how to prepare for
your tailgate party or watch party. So hit him up
(37:30):
on Twitter if you want to know more about it.
Also the birthday of UK former assistant men's basketball coach
Gail Catlet. He was born on this day and Gail
Catlet is as vintage Kentucky fans can tell you.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Was an assistant under eight.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Off Rup and when Rupp was being forced to retire,
the fan base was kind of divided.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Some of them wanted Joe b Some of them wanted
Gail Catlet.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Gail didn't get the job. He went on to West
Virginia and a very successful career coaching the Mountaineers.
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For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.