Jovan Buha on the Lakers, LeBron's Future, Spencer, All-Star Game and More+ Who's the A-hole

The FnA Podcast podcast with Kevin Figgers and Adam Auslund + Brie Brie. Jovan Buha joins the show to give a complete update on the Lakers, the Lebron Warriors rumor, what he does this summer, if they can get to the WCF again. In "Who's the A-hole" Brie Brie has a new dating story.

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look forward to at the end ofthe show as well, do we not?
Yeah, Bree's still looking for redemptionand Who's the A Hole? After
assaulting a child at the airport?What will it be today? Bree?
Can you give us a little bitof a tease here? I just know
I'm not going to be the Ahole in this That's pretty much all I

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can say. You thought that everytime here and three? No, I
was okay for that. When Idated that guy with the gym dude,
I think I won that one.It was split. It was split,
keV. It's going on. Itwent to overtime. At least. I
think Bree got that one. Actually, I forgot about that one. Yeah,
yes, I predefinitely got that one. Yeah, I'm one and three

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one two, one and two.Well, you can still make a comeback
like the Phoenix Suns this season.They things around. You can do the
same. So Bree will be hostingWho's the A Hole on the back end
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spelled like the cheese, and thentwenty six obviously for Kyle Korver. Yeah,
Kyle Corver of course. Speaking ofvoicemails, we have one, I
believe. Yeah, we got avoicemail we can get to here. Did
this show last week? A littleNBA roundtable with not just Bob Smidt,
we also had the Duke of Sportsin if you miss that, Things got

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a little hot, things got alittle bit testy. I thought it was
fun. I thought it was agood it was great, it was amazing
Sam Amy's best friend Eric Sklarer.God, we were stirring the pot like
Steve Hartman back in the day witha loose canons was of the best total
a holes. All right, let'ssee who we got here? The voicemail
Fay Peter from North Dakota. Here, I figured I talked to the number

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one Dream Interpretation podcast on the Westcoast that also sometimes talks about sports like
who is better Lebron or Michael Jordan. Anyway, I had a dream recently
with kind of a nightmare as well. I tried that my shoulders and my
calves were really small, and that'sjust not the case, especially not the

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case since I've been lifting. Butsince then I started doing Reeves deadlifts all
the time, and those are awesome. I do them on shoulder days,
I do them on light days.Look them up. Really cool. Mess
with a grip's drink as well.Have you guys ever had a dream that
made you positively change your life,like Adam, did you have a nightmare
about drinking that made you stop drinkingor did you have like a living experience

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that made you stop drinking happening.Yeah, that's uh what I'm going to
hold on to. But uh,Reeves deadlifts, Kevin, have you done
these? I believe that's kind oflike a wider grip deadlift, like where
you actually grab I think you actuallygrab a plate, you grab the two
instead of grabbing the bar, youreach wide and actually grab the two most

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interior plates on either side. Thatwould be It's very difficult. I've never
actually seen anyone doing in person,but I've seen it and it's not something
that I would try. Let's putit that way. Now. Is it
named after Austin Reeves because he's notthat soul. I wouldn't think he'd be
the guy to have a named liftafter No, we could be wiry strong,
you never know he is. He'stough. I mean obviously country strong.

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He's a country boy. You neverknow he'll Billy Kobe, right,
you gotta be tough to go intothe paint and flop like he does all
the time and get all these falls. What I'm in my lying in my
line. Uh yeah, he justknows how to bait people into fouls,
kind of like your boy James Harden. That's all. James Harden was the
master of it. Oh og,show some respect, okay. Or maybe
it was Vatti or Derek Fisher.Dreams that changed your life for the better.

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I don't know if I've had anythinglike that. I'd also just wake
up in terror, right, justwake up on a cold sweat after being
chased by a monster or something.That's my dream. Yeah, so basically
so I have the same dreams assix year olds, basically. No,
I can't think of any life changingdream that I've ever had. A lot
of people speak to this sort ofthing, for sure, but it's not
something that's ever really happened to me, Bree, did you ever have a

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life changing dream at some point?You know, I make a lot of
jokes about like six hundred pound life, Like whenever I'm like eating really really
bad, I'm like, oh mygod, this is probably not the best
considering that's a real thing that realpeople are issue that people are dealing with.
We're nowhere close to six hundred pounds, but I think someone who was
halfway there myself back in the dayhalf what wow, I didn't even know

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that. I'm just making things up. I'm just making things up. Huh.
So I think I've had a dreamwhere I actually was close to getting
to that point, and I wasa little bit older. It was kind
of like that Death Becomes Her whenSusan Strandon was like really really big at
the beginning of the movie because shewas eating frosting and she had like seventeen
cats. Not that I was inthat like that in the dream, but
like just eating frosting and a littlebit on the bigger side. So I

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think I will up and went tothe gym at like four thirty in the
morning, and I was like,oh, that probably lasted like two weeks
though, and then that was it. I don't know the reference, but
I was kind of just thinking BenSteeller at the end of Dodgeball, kind
of like this one of those youknow, as I have dreamed about having
bigger calves. That's like the oppositeof what goes on with Peter from North
Dakota, who already has huge calves, like Kevin, who I have asked

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for a calf not doing it.Transplant, yeah, the transplant, yeah.
And I know some people have gottenimplants before. I just feel like
you could shave off a little bitand hand it over to me and you'd
still be fine. I don't knowthat to be the case. I really
don't. I think it would bea nice gesture. I don't think it's
worth the risk to because with youall right, there you go. The

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with us here, Kevin, wegot a big guest coming we do with
the NBA, the All Star Breakershere. The Clippers are rolling. The
Lakers are doing, I guess alittle bit better than they have in the

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past. One of our favorites,a man that was on the Clipper beat
now on the Laker beat. It'sbeen a long time since he's been on
the show. So let's get someone. Alan Dragan did. Thank you,
Donny Hey. Valentine's Day was yesterday, So how about bringing on someone tall,
dark, and hairsome. I meanhandsome, but the hair is also
long with great depth, just likehis articles for the Athletic. It's Yovonne

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Booja, who I wish was stillmy boo but now he covers the Lakers.
But I remember back in the daybringing him on with me all the
time before it was cool, beforePMS poached him, before Rogan and Rodney
posted him no offense Kevin, butthe Lakers got some help on offense with
Spencer Dinwittie. So let's talk aboutit all with the smartest Lakers reporter and
NBA analyst in the game. Followhim at Jovonne Booja on X jovonn How

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are we doing? I'm doing well, man, especially after that intro that
might be the best one I've everhad. He deserved it all. It
have been too long. I've beenbuilding it up. I've been writing it
for like a year. Now,come on, Okay, So I appreciate
the Lakers get a big victory lastnight in Utah. What's the most important
thing that Spencer Dinwiddie will do tohelp this Lakers team. I think you

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just give them another body. Honestly, right now that they're down four guys,
and Jared Vanderbilt gave Vincent, CamReddish and Max Christy that have all
been either rotation players or projected tobe rotation players. That one more so
in the case of gave Vincent,who's only played in five games. But

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right now they really just needed anotherrotation guy. But I think one thing
Settle, You've already seen it inthe two games that he's played, where
night one against Detroit he had sevenassists, what was effective in the pick
and roll with Christian Wood, withAnthony Davis. And then last night against
Utah took a little bit more ofan offensive approach, had several of the

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rim, a couple of impressive reversefinishes, had to pull up three heat,
and you saw a little bit moreof that offensive prowess. So to
me, he gives them another option. If the Angelo Russell or Austin Reeves
is struggling on a given night,We've already seen them play three guards together,
so I know that's a look thatLaker fans aren't too fond of.

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But Darvin Ham has preferred to goto three guard lineups at various points in
his coaching tenure, and I justthink it's insurance right, And they didn't
have a backup point guard technically,Again, Gabe was supposed to be that
guy, and with some uncertainty abouthis return timeline and just what form he
will return in ultimately if he doescome back, and let's say mid to

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late March, they just wanted toshore up that position, so they kind
of view him as their trade deadlineacquisition. You know, they didn't make
a move, and they got someflak from the fan base, but you
know, I think people are happywith how it turned out. If you
look at the caliber guy that movedat the trade headline, there weren't many

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guys better than Spencer Dinwiddie, SoI think overall it's worked out. It's
only been a couple of games andit was against Detroit in Utah, but
I do think he gives them someball handling debt to playmaking, some off
the dribble scoring, and again rightnow, just another body for a team
that's pretty depleted injury wise. Yeah, and with that Jovan, we know

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that they finished six to one downthe stretch heading into the All Star Break,
a couple of impressive wins, especiallyagainst Boston without ad or Lebron.
They had that one loss against Denver, which had a similar narrative to last
year's Western Conference Finals. But weknow this is basically the roster they have
to go with. They finished withsome momentum, they think they're playing better.
Do you think this is a teamlike last year they can catch fire
late in the season and actually makea run at this I do think so.

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I still think there's a bit ofa ceiling with them facing Denver,
or with them facing the Clippers,who I think are the second best team
in the West and maybe will bethe best team in the West, or
we'll see the rest of the seasongoes. But I look at those two
teams in particular, as you know, distancing themselves from the rest of the

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West. But I think if theLakers, like if I'm trying to lay
out the most rosy optimistic path forthe Lakers, it is somehow getting the
six or seven seed, which rightnow they're in ninth. And then that
side of the bracket having Minnesota andOkay se on it, and I think

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they match up really well with bothteams. You know, Minnesota has a
lot of size, but the Lakershave size that they've played well against them.
Anthony Davis has historically been able togive Rudy Gobert problems. You know,
he played them off the floor inseveral matchups against Utah. And then
I think the Lakers, if theycan get healthy, have some of the

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wing defense and necessary to throw ata guy like Anthony Edwards. And then
there's also just the experience factor ofyou know, over half of this rotation
just made the Western Commence Finals together. We have Lebron and Ad who we
see step up in big moments versusa Minnesota group that just doesn't quite have
the same level of experience. Andthen you look at Okay see you know,

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I covered Shay as a rookie.I'm a big Shay guy. I
really like their future. But Chetversus a d is a terrible matchup for
Chet. I think he's fouled out. He fouled out in one of the
games. He might have filed outin two of the games. But like
Ad just puts chet under the rimand they don't you know, they don't

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really have I mean, they signedBiambo to attend Day, but like they
don't really have another guy to throwat a d even in a way similar
to how the Lakers defended Jokic wherethey put Ruey or or Lebroad on him
that kind of had Ad roaming aslike a rim protector had some success with
that, Like okay See can't reallydo that. So I just look at

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that as like the Lakers have asize and physicality advantage against okay See.
They've already beaten them twice this season, and that's one where like I think
I would pick the Lakers even withouthome court advantage over okay See again one
factoring in the age and inexperience andsome of their shooting limitations with certain guys.

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So I think, like that's thepass forward Lakers if they get Minnesota
or okay See kind of on thesame side of the bracket, But they
could easily get Denver in round oneor the Clippers in round one, and
in that case, I think theywould be heavy underdogs. And in the
Denver case, I think that's afive game series probably, so there.

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I think that their season could goseveral ways. But for them right now,
their goal is to get the succeedget out of the play and mix,
and at that point, you know, just let the chips fall where
they may and the hope that theyget the right side of the bracket.
Jovann Buha from The Athletic is ourguest here on the f ANDA podcast YOVONN.
You mentioned Darvin ham and some ofthe curious lineup decisions over this season.

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Why has he been so reluctant tojust, I don't know, go
with the starting five that got himto the Western Conference finals, at least
when those guys were available, orto put Ruy Hachimura in the starting lineup,
which he's finally now in. It'sjust I mean, how close was
he in your mind to possibly beinglet go, say that Boston game goes
the other way and they lose byforty, which I think most people expected.
Like he has been on the razorsedge, it feels like. But

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some of these lineup decisions just itseemed very stubborn, very counterintuitive. Yeah,
so I'll go back to actually theClippers game in early January, where
you know, that to me wasthe turning point around the time I reported

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with Shams Sharania that there were severalplayers who were frustrated with their roles and
the rotations and the lineups and justfelt like there was a lack of consistency
there, and you know, itwas something that was being discussed internally within
the organization. And I think soat that point, they're on a four

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game losing streak, they enter theClipper game, they beat the Clippers,
they have one of their best performancesof the season, and that was a
big turning point where I mean,one, they've gone thirteen and seven since
then, but two, it wasthe type of performance where if you are
really trying to get your coach firedand you've officially given up on him,

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you just roll over and lose thatgame. And that was I think what
some people were expecting because they hadloss of the Clippers, what eleven straight
times at that point, so itor I know, they beat them earlier
in the season, so but theyhad you know, eleven to twelve whatever,
So you know, I think itthe way I've had the analogy I've

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made has been if it was aseat Warmer. It was on level one
out of three, and a lossof the Clippers probably puts that to level
two, and then if they continuespiraling, which again, if you look
at their upcoming schedule, it waslike the Clippers, the Suns, the
Thunder, the Mavericks, like theyhad a pretty tough slate coming up,

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and they ended up going three toone against those teams. And I think
that stretch really turned around their season. I think it saved Garvin Ham's job.
And from everything I've been told,he's safe through the rest of the
season, and that's been true forweeks now. But you know, barring
them losing like eight ten games ina row, and it's just being clear

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that this is not the right coach. This team has given up on him.
You know, we need to tryand just salvage the optics of the
season. Like, barring something likethat happening, he's going to be safe
at least until the offseason. Soto me, it really just comes down
to how do the Lakers finish theseason? Again? Are they playing team?
Are they a playoff team? Dothey lose in Round one? Do

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they lose in the playing tournament?Do they make another run like all those
things are going to factor into Darbnham'sfuture. As for the lineup positions,
I can't really tell you, andtalking to people around the Lakers, they
can't necessarily tell you either. Ido think Jared Vanderbilt had his injury,
his heel injury at the beginning ofthe season that cost him about twenty games,
and had he been healthy, Ithink he would have started the season

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as the starting small forward and hewould have avoided some of this Torri and
print stuff and the Lakers over relianceon him. So I think Jared Vanderbilt's
injury at the beginning of the seasonkind of put things in like it was
kind of a recipe for things goinghaywire in terms of the rotation, and
that kind of, you know,set the Lakers behind from that perspective.

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But Ruy Hushima is, in myopinion, their fit best player, and
I just I don't get you know, there are games early in the season
he'd play fourteen minutes, sixteen minutes, eighteen minutes, and like, even
if you're not going to start thisdude, he needs to be playing twenty
five minutes a night minimum, justgiven your talent and just the way he
fits next to Lebron and Ad becausethose two guys, it's really like that

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three together like that unlocks something inRuey where he doesn't, you don't need
him as much offensively, and thenhe's playing with two guys who, when
they're engaged offensively, like I thinkthat brings out the best in him.
So like, it always just nevermade sense to me, why again,
even if you're going to bring offthe bench, you don't want him guarding
wings, like you should still beclosing with him or playing that lineup a

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bit more than it was. SoI don't have a great answer for you
on that front. But what can'tsay is Darvin's safe through the season,
and I think they're going to reevaluatethis summer. So since you're talking about
the summer, there have been somany reports over the last week, you
know, Lebron James, the WoldReport talking about Golden State calling our glass
tweet that that he sent out thatprecipitated that call, according to sources,

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talk about whether or not they're goingto take Brannie James with the second round
pick, who can't even get offthe bench for USC right now, a
bad USC team at that, andthen whether or not they're interested in Donovan
Mitchell, Trey Young, Kyrie Irving'sname has come up in trade rumors.
You are all over the reports abouttheir interest into Jeana Murray and how that
didn't come to fruition. I guessas we get into the off season,

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knowing that they have all the assets, the three first round picks, second
round picks, pick swaps at theiravailability, I guess it's hard to answer
this question not knowing how this seasonis playing out, but knowing that the
clock is ticking on Lebron and accordingto reports, he wants to opt out
of his contract and sign an extension. What is the move for the Lakers
this offseason? And we talked aboutthis on our podcast last week, Donovan

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Mitchell, whether or not that's evena realistic possibility. Even if Cleveland were
interested in selling them off, you'dhave to think they'd be able to get
a better package than what the Lakerswould be willing to offer. No,
Yeah, I agree with you onthe Donovan Mitchell front. I did a
podcast last week and I was askedto rank the three guys in terms of

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realistically becoming Lakers, and I putit Trey Young one, Kyrier in two
and Donovan Mitchell three. I thinkwith Donovan that's the guy that's going to
drive the highest price. I thinkhe's the best player of those three pretty
clearly. But you also have theNew York interest. He's from the Tri
state area rather and I think thatthe Knicks or the Nets are going to

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be the favorites to land him.Those two teams have more assets overall than
the Lakers, and I just thinkthere's been so much smoke with it,
it just kind of makes sense,like with the way Jalen Bruns is playing,
Like I don't know if the Knicksstill want to do that necessarily,
but I could imagine him going toBrooklyn and with an army of wings next

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to him, kind of like that. If you put Donovan Mitchell in that
team like that, that's a prettyinteresting team if he does want to leave
Cleveland. And that's the other thinghere, like Cleveland could easily, you
know, depending on how their seasongoes, like they could be a conference
final team if they're on the oppositeside of Boston. So in that case,
as he's stay in Cleveland, ordoes he leave after making the Surcramence

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Finals, which would be the deepestrun of his career. So I think
thought of in that's the one that, to me, again is the least
likely Kyrie. It would have tobe. I think Dallas would have to
flame out either losing the first round, losing the playing tournament, and the
front office just realizes, like,okay, there's a clear limitation here to

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the Luca Kyrie pairing. One yearwe missed the playoffs, you know.
The other year again we lost inround one, or we lost in the
plan, and we need to moveon from Kyrie. And and Kyrie is
still a bit of like a controversialfigure in the league, I would say,
to put it mildly, So likeI think they're I mean, he's
going to have his list of teams, which I think the Lakers will be

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on. But two, I stillthink that there are certain teams that won't
touch him and won't go after him. So like I think think if he
becomes available, the Lakers will likelybecome the favorites given his relationship with Lebron,
given Lebron's basically stated preference to togo after Kyrie. So I think
that's another option. And then there'sTrey, who I reported on last summer

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coming out of the twenty twenty twoto twenty three season that the Lakers had
interest in him. There's the obviousclutch connection, but I think from basketball
perspective, they view him as someonewho fits perfectly with Ad and you know,
in the shorter term, can fitin as like the third guy next
to Lebron, next to Ady,take the load off Lebron offensively, run
the offense, and then longer term, kind of bridge the gap into the

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next era of Lakers basketball and youcan run Trey Young Anthony Davis pick and
rolls for the next five to sevenyears and that be a viable, you
know, offensive weapon and kind ofthe foundation of your team. So that
Atlanta had advanced talks on the JeanTae Murray deal, ultimately Atlanta kept it,

(23:03):
kept insisting on either a second firstround pick or Austin Reeves. Well,
now the Lakers can come back tothe table and say, hey,
we have three first round picks,we have four pick swops, we have
multiple second round picks, and we'llgive you Austin Reeves. We just want
Trey Young, so we'll see.I think similarly, like Atlanta probably has
the flame out, which on paper, they probably will you know, losing

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in the first round or losing inthe playing tournament. But at that point,
you know, given some of therecent reports about them potentially favoring keeping
the Jon Tay Murray over Trey Young, I think that's something they look at.
And then again given the clutch connection, you know, we've seen some
of these clutch guys get to kindof pick their team and go where they

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want to go. So who knowswith Atlanta, but I think kind of
similar to the Dame situation, they'regoing to get, you know, he's
what the second best hawk of thelast three decades, four decades like that,
I think they're going to want topreserve that relationship if they do move
on from him and not necessarily justtrade him to Siberia. So I think

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that there will be an element oflike at least running it by him,
like hey, are you open tothis? And I think again the Lakers
would be in that mix. SoI mean, of course, with any
trade, with any situation, likeyou've got to put the odds below fifty
percent, below probably even forty percent. But I do think I look at
Trey and Kyrie as semi realistic targetsfor this summer, depending on how the

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situations play out in Atlanta and Dallas. Second best talk. I mean,
what about Kyle Korver. You gotto put him in there. Sorry,
we got a Kyle Korver fan today. Jovan Johnson is the other one man,
Joe Johnson. Joe Johnson, Imean Al Horford, that team,
Jeff t Sweet, Lou Williams,come on now, last one for me,
Jovon Kevin brought it up. Howclose? What did you hear about

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the Lebron to Golden State trade rumors? Was it doa? Was it at
all close? How long did thosediscussions go? It was not close?
And and I don't you know,it's always weird when kind of commenting or
analyzing other people's reporting. But Imean, I'll just say from the Laker's

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perspective, like the conversations I hadyesterday, it was essentially like an eye
roll where it was like we werenot trading Lebron and we were not going
to trade him, you know,I mean, like unless and you know
they did report that. Their geniesaid, if if you want to reach

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out to Rich and they want that, you know, then we can have
a different conversation. And uh,you know that that communication has had and
uh, you know it was relatedback to the Warriors that Lebron did not
want to be traded and I wasn'tgoing to be traded there, So I
think, you know, I mean, these situations, like Roblinka said it

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at his trade deadline the press conferenceof like we had hundreds of calls or
you know, specifically hundreds of tradeoffer like calls with different teams, and
you can kind of like, Imean, like I don't know, I
reported, it's not as big ofa nay, but like I reported,
the Lakers had conversations about trading Toryand Prince and like Darvin Ham didn't want

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to trade him, and like theseconversations like happen around the trade deadline where
almost every scenario is discussed. SoI get why Golden State reached out,
I get why Philly reached out,but you know, to my knowledge,
it never got close. The Lakershave no interest in trading Lebron. They
want Lebron to retire a record Imean a Laker. They like having him,

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you know, being a Laker,helping them win a championship, breaking
all these records. Like it's it'sbeen a fruitful partnership from the Lakers side.
So you know, if he youwant, like, he has the
power, he has the player option, he can opt out, he can
demand a trade, you know,if he opts in it, like they're
different, Like he has the powermore so here as long as he continues

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to enjoy being a Laker and thenbe a great Laker ambassador, which he's
been up to this point. SoI don't think it ever really got close,
you know, it is to me, the interesting part of the story
was that like two teams felt thatthe situation had gotten bad enough that it
was even worth checking in on andtrying to pry Lebron away. So that

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to me, it was a signof like, you know, the Lakers
can kind of deny the the opticsof the hour glass tweet or say everything's
kumbaya, but like, clearly youhad two teams checking in and you know,
presenting aggressive you know, potentially realisticoffers, which I don't know the
offers, but I assume it shouldcall on about Lebron, like you're going

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to come with with some heat.Like the fact that those two teams did
that, to me is a signthat like and just in talking to other
people out on the league like teamsare you'll feel like Lebron might be available
this summer. So that to mewas like the biggest development of this all
is just further confirmation of like thereis pressure on the Lakers to figure this
out. There's pressure on them toget that third star, that second ball

(28:18):
handler that he's wanted for going onfour years now. And if they can't
get that guy, I do wonder, you know, how he factors in
his basketball future in terms of likecompeting for championships versus loving being in LA,
his son being out here, hisfamily being out here, and just
some of the lifestyle stuff and businessstuff. So we'll see, because I

(28:44):
think again, if the Lakers,if the Lakers don't move make the move
right moves this offseason, there mightbe other teams that come around that have
a better basketball opportunity for him,and then it's on him, like what
do you really want at this pointof your career. I just like how
darra More's been framed as that guyat the bar who just says, got
to shoot your shot, bro,and just talks to everyone, and that's
kind of there's something about that.It was just really funny to me last

(29:07):
one, Yo, Von, Thisis not a liquor question. It's more
about the All Star Weekend and howit's kind of look. They're trying to
do a bunch of things to kindof change things up a little bit.
The court's going to be glass orsomething something like that. That shootout with
Steph Curry and I ask you isgoing to be entertaining. Just what's your
thought on the All Star Weekend andhow it's been They've had so many machine
ashes now it's back to East versusWest. What has it done anything for

(29:30):
you as someone who covers the leagueon the weekend, week out, yearly
basis over the last few years.Is it stale? Do they need to
do a little bit more? Doyou like the changes they've been making?
I think, you know, forme, first and foremost, like I'm
a basketball stand so I I loveeverything about the NBA and you know,

(29:51):
I do enjoy covering All Star Weekend, attending All Star Weekend. I'm actually
not going to be there this weekend, but you know, and you know,
I've been to several and I've alwayshad a great time. I do
think that, you know, similarto uh, there's a lot of the
criticism of the NBA versus the NFLand the ratings and this and that,

(30:15):
and I think part of it isthe NBA does tweak things so frequently year
to year you will see wholesale changesto different aspects of the season, different
aspects of the product. And Ithink for them just figure, you know,

(30:38):
figuring it out, sticking to it, and even if you are implementing
new things, like I look atthe playing tournament, I look at the
nd season Tournament, like those aretwo successful new things that they've brought,
you know about in recent seasons.And but but part of it's been like
kind of just implementing it, youknow, pushing it and then just kind

(31:00):
of taking a step back and likeletting it play out, whereas I feel
like ranging from just even things likethe jerseys where you rarely see the home
team wearing their home jersey versus theroad team wearing the road jersey, and
like it's just you can turn ona game and if you you know,
if you're at a bar and you'retwenty feet from the TV, Like if

(31:22):
it's not that big of a TV, you might not even know the two
teams playing, or might guess thetwo wrong teams, and it's like,
you know, there was a levelof you're just just I think, like
it like the NFL, you cankind of turn it on and you know
what jerseys the Chiefs are wearing,or what jerseys the Niners are wearing,
and they got the color weeks orwhatever that they do. But like for

(31:45):
the most part, it's it's twoor three options and you kind of just
know that the branding and the productand I think, you know, just
picking jerseys as an example, butI think with also our weekend, it's
like every year there's you know,two or three new things that happen and
then sometimes it's six, sometimes itdoesn't. But I think when you're when
you're changing it so frequently, it'shard to kind of tell what's actually working,

(32:09):
what's not working, and what's sustainablefor the long haul. So you
know, with that said, Ido think that the STEPF Sabrina shootout is
an interesting idea. I think,you know, I'm interested to see kind
of how that goes. And youknow, I think, is it competitive,
is it a route like on eitherside, like you know, how

(32:30):
does that play out? But uhyeah, I mean I think the biggest
thing too is like they got tofigure out the dunk contest and they got
some star power back in it.Because even if, like you know,
Mac McClung had one of the betterdunk contests ever and like it's fun to
talk about during All Star Weekend maybethe next week or so, but we're
not really sitting here talking about MacMcClung and his dunk contest ability right now.

(32:53):
It's like, you've got to finda way to incentivize the stars,
and we saw the plane. Uhsorry with the NTS tournament. You give
them enough money, they will doit. I think maybe a participation fee
for showing up for the dunk contest, you know, raising that and then
maybe the prize being a little bithigher, like that'll get guys to compete

(33:15):
in it. But I think theDunk Contest was always a big driving force
of All Star Weekend, and withthat falling off over the past decade,
I think it's taking away some ofthe sizzle with it. So figuring out
a way to get some better,bigger names than the dunk contests. I
do like them going back to EastWest in the All Star Game. I
think that's fun. So you know, I think that there's a limitation where,

(33:39):
you know, All Star Weekend ingeneral has probably lost the interests that
it used to have over the lastlike five to ten years, and I'm
not really sure how to get itback other than again kind of sticking to
something a little bit more formulaic,a little bit more predictable, because ultimately,
I think that's what the consumer wantsand not everything you know now it's

(33:59):
at this time, this day,or just things changing too much, and
I think that's something the NBA needsto kind of figure out in a macro
sense of just the future of theleague re not it and it feels so
good. Oh I missed Jovann Boujacoming on the show. Jovonne, you
are a freaking star. Everyone followhim at Jovonne Bouha on x. He

(34:22):
covers the Lakers for the Athletic.He is the pinnacle of journalism and reporting
in twenty twenty four, Yovonne,thanks for doing this here on the f
Anda podcast. I appreciate you guysso much. It was great to talk
to you the great Yovan Booha.Like you mentioned, Adam, it's been
a long time one of our favorites. And yes I did poach him for
Rogan and Rodney. But it's onlybecause you know, you found the hidden

(34:44):
gym and I just happened to justhop upon it and take advantage of it.
You polished it. I know whatwas Fred's doing. Anyways, he
saw him once on Spectrum and hewas like, get that guy with the
high hair on. You don't gethim for me? Now? For once
that was not the case. Ohreally, I suggested him to Fred.
This guy's really good. Fred's anidiot. He was with Adam. I
would never I didn't say that hewill go on with Adam all the time

(35:07):
when he covered the Clippers and thisguy does an excellent job, we should
bring him on the Show's that's howit went. He's sharp, he's good
looking, and his information is evenbetter, which is hard to say.
The only person with higher hair thanyou maybe is a Jovann Bouja. Yeah.
I was trying to compete with him, but then I get a haircut
recently, so I'm out. It'sall about Johan and Timothy's Shamalot or whatever

(35:28):
the fuck his name is from theNew Dune movie Chalamagne Charalamagne. I got
it the Charalamagne to god. Uhdefinitely two completely different people. Yeah,
all right, abre, it's yourturn. Eure up, step up.
Who's the a hole? Major asshole? In real life? Are surrounded by
asshole? Thanks, but it's supportasshole. He asshole. You're just an

(35:51):
asshole? Hey, asshole? Funkyou aushole? Firsk you ashole. All
right, Bree, So tell usthe situation, give us a story,
and then we'll determine whether or notyou or the other person or people or
assholes. What does this mean thatI'm always the one that has this going

(36:12):
on in their lives? Like thisis a problem. Think you know what
it means? I mean at thesame comment the nominators you, I know,
I don't know. Maybe this islike a sign you need to go
to therapy or something like, Idon't know, there's a problem. A
lot of people you would finally admitthat it's not you, it's me.
Maybe you should get to that point. They're all for different situations though,

(36:35):
so there's not like a common threadother than me. Yeah, well,
I mean that's a thread you canhold on to. Yeah, okay.
Anyways, so I actually I've beenvery anti dating apps, like for the
past. I don't know how manyyears, like ever since they started,
ever since. I don't know howlong do you think they've been around,
like well, like ten years maybe, I don't know. It's MySpace dming

(36:57):
count back in the day, probablya little bit longer than that, but
yeah, yeah, okay, theharmony has been on for a long time,
a long time. Yeah, thosetwo kind of started the whole thing
probably like what oh six so sevenish, yeah, and then you're swiping
apps probably within the last ten twelveyears, I'd say, yeah, okay,
what about personals in the newspaper?Well there you know those old ads
that's right, right, or thevideotape ones where you like sending a VHS

(37:20):
yourself right by the Pina Colada songswhere you put it in the newspaper like
how cute, Like that's the personyeah that one. Yeah, okay,
So I've been very like sketched outby them, Like but I've heard like
really good success stories and I like, me, yes, who was wedding?
You would send it? Yes,a few, And I think it
was probably a few guys at workthat we're talking about them, like oh

(37:44):
yeah, I met my fiance andI'm my wife and I'm like, oh,
you know what. Okay, Ifeel like I'm kind of I'm hearing
more like the sample size is gettingbigger. Like Okay, maybe it doesn't
sound that bad, and I'm not. I haven't been really going out because
I've just been working so much.So anyways, I joined the app like
two weeks ago, two and ahalf weeks ago. I think which app?
A hinge? Hinge? H?How do you know it's a good

(38:07):
one because that's where I met mywife Adam. Okay, actually my wife
and I were we matched on bothhinge and bumble God well damn double sourced
it. Yeah, that's a signthat's like a universal Yeah, definitely.
So So anyways, so I like, like I said, so I joined

(38:29):
the app. I matched with thisone dude. He reached out and he
kind of had like a cheesy linethat in the in the past, I
would probably be like, fuck now, I'm not even going to talk back.
He would you feel? It wassomething along the lines of like,
oh, I really don't get butterfliesfrom people's profile, but yours gave me

(38:49):
butterflies, And I was maybe youjust had some taco bell. I mean,
all the corny lines you could tryto be funny or like or whatever.
That's a pretty bad one with you. It was, and honestly it
worked. Yeah. I actually likeI was kind of like, okay,
well I'll just kind of see wherethis goes. I'm like hah, and
I said something kind of funny back. I'm like, that's a lot of

(39:12):
pressure. I just joined hine likerookie nerves or I said something funny.
Anyways, we actually like hit itoff, and I was like, okay,
not bad whatever. So we startedtexting and then he said, yeah,
would you be down to like graba cup of coffee, which is
one of my things that I hadput on my like profile to get pete
coffee together. No, No,in a specific order, white mocha.

(39:35):
No. It was like Barnes andNoble and overpriced coffee was like one of
my date ideas, And so hehad bunge of Nobles don't even existing.
What are you talking about? There'sso rare. One's going to think that's
a really old profile. Then we'llgo a blockbuster that would be like the
perfect date. What are you talkingabout? Go walk around the movies and

(39:58):
yeah, anyways, so we basicallywe're talking about coffee at first, but
then we started texting and he askedme my favorite food. I said sushi
was and Mediterranean were my two favoritefoods. And then he was like,
oh, have you been to Sugarfish, which is like a little bougie sushi
placed and definitely boogie yeah, Andso I was like, actually, I've
never been there. And so anyways, we made plans, but then like

(40:22):
the texting got weird and that wasright, and then I was like okay,
yeah, exactly, yeah, likeit got more spread out. Like
it was like he would text me. I would text him like maybe two
three hours later, and then hewouldn't text me till the next day.
And I was like, okay,don't want to come on too strong.
Yeah, it was exactly. Andthen I was like, but why did

(40:43):
you come on like like oh mygod, butterflies and oh my god,
blah blah blah, like let's hangout and then like suddenly kind of back
off, and I was like,okay, well we have like a few
days before the date whatever. Soit happened like that for two days and
then Saturday, so we were goingto meet up Super Bowl Sunday before I
went to work, and so sothat Saturday he texted me in the morning.
I texted him like in the afternoon, and then he didn't text me

(41:05):
at all, and I was like, oh shit, that's like the day
before the date, like like Ilike a little confirmation just to like touch
base. Even like Sunday morning,it was like ten thirty, and I
was like, okay, I needa like touch base here before I leave
the house, before I finished doingmy makeup. Maybe he was at church,
all right, show some damn respect. No, definitely not, definitely
not a bad boy. No,And so I'm not going to knew motherfucker.

(41:35):
So I texted him again and Iwas like, Hey, are we
still meeting up? Which I don'tthink was that much of a ridiculous question,
Like, hey, were we stilldown to meet up? No,
biggie, If not, is thatlike a dumb question to ask? Now,
what was your last time you?Guys corresponded Saturday at like three o'clock,
and we were going to meet Sundayat noon. I'd loft something down

(41:55):
the day before and not worry aboutit, right, Yeah, I don't
think it's I don't think it willbe unreasonable from his part to say we
texted about it yesterday at three,why would we not still be good?
No, we didn't talk about itthough. Wait we didn't come up.
No, no, no we wereSo when did you actually lock in plans?
As the question, I'm I thinklike windday? All right, okay,
that's fair. Then that fall?Yeah absolutely, yeah, yeah so

(42:16):
wind day. And so that's whySunday I texted him at like ten thirty
and I'm like, I'm coming fromoc like and I'm going to meet in
Studio City, Like are we stillon? He was like, oh,
of course, but blah blah yeah, see you in a bit. So
I'm driving there. Then he textsme again. He was like, actually
I'm running late. I'm running aboutlike ten fifteen minutes behind. And I'm
like, okay, no problem.I didn't even care. I had no

(42:38):
problem. And so from me,no, oh okay, actually not from
you, Oh okay. So Igot gas, I went to I went
there was like an erawan there.I had never stepped foot in one,
so I was like walking around,I'm like, I don't care. I
was. I was really being openminded about this entire thing because I've been
so close minded about it before.So then I and then he was like,

(43:00):
oh, just parking, and soI was sitting kind of away from
the entrance because I wanted to seehow he would walk up when he would
get it was getting near the restaurant. I just kind of wanted to like
feel him out. Also, Ilooked at his you Were There stock because
I checked out his Instagram and therewas a lot of pictures of him with
a lot of guys, and I'mlike, oh my god, was he

(43:20):
in a frat? And but therewas nothing on it that said anything,
Like on his instagram looked pretty okay, but nothing about him being on a
frat. And I'm like, Imight I think he's a frat boy.
So was that a deal breaker foryou if he was a frat boy?
I don't want to say deal breaker, but it was going to be an
eyebrow. Yeah, I on ajudgment going on here, Yes, very
much for my play t too judgmentday. So I so I saw him

(43:45):
walk up, and the way Isaw him walk, I was like,
oh God, if that's him,he's fucking arrogant as hell. I saw
him walk, like yeah no,but there was something in like the way
the shoulders kind of moved and likekind of like he like fucking owned the
place he walked. He was tooconfident for you, more cocky, okay,
okay. So anyway, so Ihad texted him I'm sitting outside the

(44:07):
restaurant, but when he walked upto the restaurant, he didn't even like
look around for me, like,he just went into the restaurant. So
then I had to like walk towardsthe restaurant and I kind of walked in.
It was this this Henry Wrinkler's son, the Fawns' son, Like what
do you mean, Yeah, it'slike kind of like and so then yeah,
and then so then then I openedthe door and then he was right

(44:28):
there and he was like hi,and I'm like hi, and then he
gave me a hug and I waslike okay. And then he was like
actually, our table's ready, andI'm like great, And so we sat
down and I kind of looked athim and I was like, oh,
something is like it doesn't really matchthe profile picture. Like something's like off,
Like he just looked a little bitdifferent than his profile picture off,
like face off, like he hada different face. Like going on,

(44:51):
you your profile said you were Chinese, but you're definitely white. So something's
not matching up here. What happened? Some things just like it didn't It
didn't like match to who like theperson was. So I was already kind
of looking at him like, oh, how how old were those pictures?
Like in my head, Yeah,that's that, you know what? That
is definitely a thing that blew up. That is a thing up at him.

(45:12):
But sometimes there might be a coupleof extra wrinkles that you didn't necessarily
see on all the photos and theprofile, you know what I mean.
And also so also for me,I also got my hair done the day
before because I did want to justlook a little bit nicer, not that
much nicer than you know, likeI usually look, but at least,
you know, I slept on myhair that was already like done, so
it looked like I was kind ofnatural ish, it stayed together. Well

(45:34):
I did, yeah to go,yeah, thank you, And so we
sat down and then the waitress comesover. She's like, oh, have
you guys been here before? Hewas like, oh, I have,
and and then he was like,so I'm ready to order, and I'm
like and I look at him andI'm like like, oh, I'm like,
you know, I've never I hadtold him like I'd never been there
before, but I think he assumedI'd looked at the menu and I was

(45:55):
like, actually, I've never beenhere before. And then he was like,
oh yeah, and I'm like okay. So then the way it was
the establishment sugarfish, it's like akind of ash high end sushi. I
thought you were still going to coffee. I got confused there for a second.
Yeah, we switched it to sushi. I've had the sugarfish before.
It's all right, it's fucking malicious, okay. But so anyway, so

(46:16):
then she kind of explained the menu, so then we just kind of started
talking. And then he never apologizedfor being late. And yes, maybe
I'm being a little snobby. Howlate he was twenty minutes late? But
he told you he was going tobe late. Yeah, but you not
text you sorry, I'm gonna beno, no, not in the text.
And even when he saw me.I do think it's courtesy to say

(46:37):
my apologies. Something happened. Iwas late. I'm sorry. That's that
doesn't take much. Did he onceyou actually do arrive, did he look
fashionably late? Did he look likehe was really getting dulled up for you?
He wanted to impress you. Helooked nice ish like, he looked
nice, but I didn't. Iwas like, I don't know why you're
late, but I didn't ask.I was like, oh, no problem.
He's like, yeah, So,I mean, why would you ask

(46:57):
me if we were still meeting up, like I made the plans? Why
would you? Like, it's sofunny that you assumed that, you know,
we weren't going to meet up.And I look at him and I'm
like, I don't know. Youlike, how would I know? And
I was like, we never wehaven't talked about it since Wednesday, you
know. I kind of I wastrying to be really funny, like you
know, but I was looking athim like, what the fuck is your
problem? Already arguing. It wasn'tan arguing, it was just like he

(47:17):
was just kind of like, it'sso funny that you thought like we weren't
going to meet up, And I'mlike, we never talked about it again.
Something started with fred Neffel. No, that's a cute relationship. This
was not anyway pretty sure he beather, But okay, I'm just say
watch it again, watch it,rewatch it. You'll see the signs or
that I don't say that. Iwas Ricky Lucy like that was cute.

(47:43):
I'm pretty sure he didn't, okay, explain me to do. He was
like controlling anyways. So so we'retalking and I'm just kind of looking at
him and I'm like, this isnot vibing like this, like conversation just
did not flow. There was noflow at all, no flow, no
flow. No, someone stole yourflow. Somebody stole my flow. Then

(48:04):
when the way the waitress would comeback, he kind of did like a
little hand gesture where he was like, yeah, I'm done, and like
he just it was just a littleyes. What is he a prince?
And I was like what the fuck? And then so something came up.
He said something about my buddies andand I'm like were you at a frat?
And he was like he looked atme like really really like big eyed,

(48:27):
and he was like, yeah Iwas. And then I was like,
oh okay. He's like can youtell or like how'd you know?
Or I was like, oh Isaw your Instagram. I bullshitted it.
I was always just saw your Instagram. There was like a lot of dudes.
I just assumed I saw your Instagram. Yeah, we connected on Instagram.
I just I just picked up onyour broie vibe. That's all fucking

(48:47):
BROWI ass vibe. I was like, I've I've met so many guys like
him from in like Newport Beach andI'm like, how did and he was
from NorCal? He was from NorCalBoys. Yeah, hella, I mean
that guy. You gotta lock thisdown. You gotta marry him quickly.
Now a long story short. Sothe lunch ended, the bill came and

(49:13):
I looked at him like you wantto go have these like that? And
he was like, oh no,I got you. And I'm like,
okay, Cal and then call gentlemen. So then he he was like,
do you have time to grab acup of coffee? And I looked at
him like, oh damn, youthink this is going well? Sure okay,
because I was like, it wasonly like one thirty and I started
to work at two or three.You were having a different experience than you

(49:36):
was what tuit in? He kindof like he laughed at me like he
thought it was funny, and Iwas looking at him, I'm like,
do you really think I'm funny?Like I can figure it out. And
so we went to go g andI was like, oh, I'll treat
for coffee. He was like,oh thanks, I'm like sure, and
then so we get in line andthis is actually this is where it was.
Okay, it was not bad,but when he got up to the
line, he like immediately like gotin front of me to order first.

(49:59):
And I was like, I thinkI've had enough dates in my life where
I feel like I've dealt with enoughdecent guys that have always kind of let
me order first, which I don'tknow that made him just kind of a
chivalrous thing is that he's been inSocow too long now, he's been corrupted.
He's warped. Nor Cow guys true, Norcow guys wouldn't do that,

(50:19):
okay unless he asked you for yourorder and said I order for No,
he wanted order first. And thenhe didn't even say hi to like the
coffee chick. He was just like, can I get a chi? And
he's She's like, do you wantthat ice or hot iced? And then
he walked away and I'm like oh, and I was just like, oh
my god, I was and soI had I tipped her like twenty five
percent because I was like, I'msorry, I'm with this douchebag. So

(50:42):
then I was like, so Iordered mine or whatever. And then she
asked me my name and I saidBrianna and he was like oh, and
then he like did this clap andI like look over and then I walk
over. I'm like, what's up. He was like, oh, I
was going to ask you, howdo you pronounce your name? And I'm
like, oh, okay. Iwas like, oh that was gonna.
I mean, no one can appreciatethat more than you. I still get
it wrong. So I did kindof like look at him and I'm like

(51:02):
huh. But then he was like, yeah, I don't really get Brion,
So I agree with you, andI'm like, okay, cool,
thanks, But then the player topronounce your name is the correct way.
Thanks, Thanks, Scott. Iappreciate it. That's so sweet of you.
I just appreciated him asking what's thecorrect pronunciation. The bar was very

(51:23):
low at that point. At thatpoint, I was just dying to get
out of there. I'll tell him, just say Brie, just sabri that's
it. I didn't like him enoughto call me Brie. Oh damn.
That's how I knew. Definitely notBrie, Brie, not Bree Brie either
god, oh god, now crossthat line. It was so at that
point that the fact that I realizedI caught myself that I didn't even say,

(51:45):
you could just call me Brie.I was like, oh, yeah,
I'm never going to see this guyagain. I knew it at that
moment because I didn't. It didn'tcome out naturally because sometimes I meet somebody
and they're like, oh, howdo you see your name? Blah blah
blah, and I'm like, oh, you could just call me Brie.
You ghosted him in your mind inreal time during the day, Oh for
sure, that was already over.And then so we actually talked for another
like half hour, and then sowe walked to our cars and I was

(52:07):
like, thanks so much for lunch. This was this was really fun.
I was like, yeah, yeah, man, so balls in your court.
I went like that, you saidthat, balls in your court?
Yeah? And then he was like, oh, okay, yeah, I'll
hit you up. And I'm likecool, And I went to my car,
he went to his, and youguys, I have not heard from

(52:30):
him since. So thank god itwas mutual, because I had no idea
how I was going to be like, yeah, not gonna and I don't
believe in ghosting, Like I don'tlike that, so I wouldn't have done
that to him. Oh I thinkI did that to one guy maybe one
life. I'm sorry. Maybe I'vedone it once in my life. So
you're a partial believe no no,no, no, no no no,

(52:50):
maybe not non or you're changed?Is that what happened? It's been years
you were reborn. It was likeit was like an early early college,
like community college. Like, no, I don't count that. My brain
isn't fully developed. I don't knowthat guy count and while there you go,
kids, community college doesn't count.No, So anyway, that's associated
degree, you fucking losers. Soanyway said that? Okay, So like

(53:14):
I said those red flags, like, so, am I the asshole?
Because I'm being very like I don'twant to say hyper critical on every little
thing, but those were Now you'rebeing critical of me. She's giving me
the depth stare Kevin last year.That's just because it's Thursday. That's how
she always So I mean, amI being super hypercritical? Because it was

(53:36):
a first date and there's a lotof factors that I know go into play
on a first date. I understandthat they're nerves and you want to kind
of give off that like best firstimpression kind of vibe. But at the
same time you kind of know ifthere's like a connection or like a chemistry
or whatever. And I just knewthere was none of that, Like I
just knew, and so then maybethat's why it started to make me hyper

(53:58):
critical. I don know, Soky, you guys see the Yes, you're
not overthinking it at all. Kevin, you want to start, because I
think I've made myself clear. Ijust I understand that he came off as
a frad boy and apparently was,and you were able to sniff that out
quickly. It just seemed like youwere being a little bit judgmental for a

(54:22):
first date walk watching him walk up. Oh he's got too much swag.
He thinks he's cool. He's notgetting this, Like I mean, come
on, now, there are firstimpressions now, because look, had he
walked up like this arrogant douchebag butsat down and said, I apologize for
being late. Have you seen themenu? Would you like to order first?
You know there's that probably would havedampened down. I don't want to

(54:44):
speak for you, Brie, butif it comes in with that arrogant air
about him, buddy, but hisdemeanor is different when he's actually speaking with
you. I feel like that mighthave changed the narrative a little bit,
would it not? Thousand percent?I didn't see that right away. When
he was walking. I was justlike, oh, he's a little cocky.
But if he would have started talkingto me nicer. Body has a
preconceived notion about someone they don't knowyet, just based on how they look
in their pictures like you did onInstagram, and how they're walking or whatever.

(55:06):
So I don't fault you too muchfor that. That's true. We're
all racist and prejudice when it comesdown to it. It's a certain degree.
Yes, you know, maybe lessof the racist part, but the
prejudice part one hundred everybody. Everybodydoes it so as you got to know
him more and speak to him theway that he treated the white staff,
which says a lot about a person. By the way, uh and the
barista, You're just you're stacking allthese things together over the course of ninety

(55:30):
minutes or whatever it was. Idon't think it's necessarily bad to be judgmental,
and you have to ultimately determine whethersomebody is for you or not.
So if the way that they actor the way that they're doing things,
it just doesn't line up with youroutlook on life or whatever, what's wrong
with being critical of that? Letme defend the so cow swag king though
here for a second, nor cow, we're not claiming that. No,

(55:50):
he's so cow. Now he's beenhe's all GB all day, granted Bay
all day. Come on, Iwouldn't have won him out with him at
all. I would have seen grantedbeing there had been like fuck down?
Is he an a hole for beinghimself? Like? Does he qualify as
the A hole for just being himself? Is that fair? Yeah? Yeah,

(56:19):
it'll who's the a hole? True? Because like that, I wouldn't
necessarily call you an a hole?Breed. Now, the problem is based
on how this guy is, andI can't obviously assess him. I can
only go off of you what yousaid and what you said you experienced.
All of us have met people whosaid that. We say to ourselves other
guy's are real ahole Like, sohe could him being himself, He could
just be an asshole. I don'tknow that. I don't know if I

(56:43):
can base, just based off ofwhat Brees said in general and amalgama.
If I can say this guy everyday through life is an asshole, uh
Bri interpreted that through her minor experience. But I don't know if he's not
a good guy or if he's adick towards people generally speaking. I don't
know that. So all I cansay in this particular situation is, Brie,
you are not an a hole.But I can't say that this guy

(57:04):
is. That's fine. So maybethat's a half measure. Maybe that's a
half measure. I don't know,But I can't say this guy's an a
hole when I have very limited informationabout him. I'm going to get the
full point here, like I'm goingto be I need to be at I
need to be at five hundred herelike two and two. Though we can
give me that the best you'd belike one and three. Right, But
no, but I'm caught one whenliterally about the whole date, the meat

(57:28):
guy, the meat the meathead,remember the gym guy, I still think,
No, you don't, You're sofull of shit. No, all
right, if you want to beback at five hundred, maybe maybe this
qualifies you. Don't think get done. You don't have to agree. I
feel like you went out with thisguy, she'd probably make it up the
whole thing just to get back tofive hundred. And who's the a hole.
She didn't even go out with anyone. This guy's made up. I

(57:51):
wish i'm actually other than the factthat I had bomb ass sushi. I
mean it was like, yeah,no, I don't know. At least
I went out there like I didit. Did he use a fork with
his sushi? Too? I mean, what a piece of ship? Your
guy? So fucking rude. No, he had chopsticks. Obviously he didn't
recognize it was that fake with Sabbisauce. I mean, come on,

(58:13):
what a bad guy. Did heuse the real chopsticks or the little kid
chopsticks with the tie at the top, the real chopsticks? Oh not the
bumper bowl? Right? Chopsticks?All right? I guess I guess you're
thinking of being hypercritical. Yeah,but you may You may have been right.

(58:34):
You may have gauged him accurately too. I think I did. So
maybe in this case, being ahyper critical a hole worked in your favor.
You nailed it. I also don'tthink that in this realm. If
you're talking about, you know,potentially dating someone, there's not necessarily anything
wrong with being hypercritical of someone thatyou might potentially see a future with.

(58:55):
I am very irready. I'm almostlead in my hinge, like I don't
I just like, I don't thinkthis is for me. I think I'm
kind of thinking like I could probablyjust go to a really cute coffee shop
and just like work and then justlike smile at people, and just I
think I can't. I don't thinkthis online things for me. It's just,
oh, so you want to bearound romantic comedy, all right,

(59:15):
good luck with that. I'm notsaying it doesn't work. But you know,
she thinks Ryan Reynolds is gonna walkin and right right, have some
snarky comment and they're going to hitit off. Yeah, just being single
just isn't that bad, you know. I think this is a little like
eye opener of like okay, butI don't want to make I don't want
to blame put everything on like oneguy and be like fuck this, I'm
out. Like so I'm kind oftorn. I might keep it for another

(59:37):
week or two, just load upon cats, like getting about fifteen cats
is the equivalent of one guy.Do you think thirty year old is the
year is the age to start gettingcats? Thirty? Why not? They're
gonna be with you for probably therest of your life. Then you're just
holding enough fucking hate you. Iwould say that you are. You have

(59:57):
the story of many, many peoplewho have tried online dating. Breath,
That's all I'll say. I think, yeah, and I think this is
just comes with the territory. Ithappens. Yeah, if this could happen,
if for a guy that you metwhile you were working at starbucksers,
you know, the same situation,you can play itself out. It was
different when he's when he saw youstanding beyond the counter and just wanted to
flirt with you for half a second, and then you actually get to know
him and he's a giant dick.Yeah that's life. Yeah, that's actually

(01:00:21):
happened probably more times than not.That's life for you. That's very true.
So yeah, thanks guys. Imean it should just be called like
who's the bree hole at this segmentsince it's always me like, I don't
know, I just want to makeit about you. That's what it sounds
like. Seems like a whole thingto do. Yeah, right, let's
not talk about me. Let's talkabout Brie. That's what she wants,

(01:00:42):
the brand it ask. Let's talkabout Babe, b right, Let's talk
about you and Breyea. Oh mygosh, good job. Y. Yes,
you presented the situation. Well,you did some of the information.
You know, there's two sides ofevery story, of course, but sure,
I'm not going to say you wereexaggerating too much. You painted the

(01:01:04):
picture of who this guy is,I think, and you know what,
after talking to you for that thirtyminutes after you got coffee, he could
have said to himself, you knowwhat not feeling her? Yeah, oh,
for sure, you guys could feelthe same way about each other and
keep on pushing. Oh a thousandpercent. I'm sure. I mean,
I think the fact that even askedhim that were you in a frat,
I'm sure that was already like,damn, this girl's just I totally get
it. I totally get it.The ball is in your court. So

(01:01:29):
maybe at some point during the conversationhe thought, you know, you were
being overly judgmental, or he thoughtit could have it could work both ways,
I guess, is my point.You guys. I'm so sorry i'd
have to add this, but hedidn't understand the concept of sports talk radio
because he didn't watch sports. Thoseguy's giant asshole. Yeah, you should
definitely never talked delete his numbers,Like, oh, I've never heard of
that, And I was like,never heard of the concept of sports talking.

(01:01:51):
It was like, yeah, no, it's on the radio. I
was like, fucking mars, evenif you don't like sports, so it's
like AM radio And I'm like,yeah, he's and their shows. Like
I was trying to explain it.He was like, oh, yeah,
I just never podcasts chick rock.There you go. That was He's like,
oh, that's really interesting. AndI'm like, yeah, do you
even sports? Bro? God geez, not liking sports is like the least

(01:02:16):
it was one of the least browthings. I'm interested now now I'm more
intrigued by this guy now that Iwant you to date him, But just
like, what is your background?What do you what's your thing? Producing
music? Something on the side ohis beats, beats playing it t risk

(01:02:36):
nothing, Yeah, yeah, thenext vanilla I I t not for breath,
hanging from a balcony, for stealingships, feed or something. All
right, we gotta get artist.I want to stay a star. I
don't want to want to have toworry about this, trying to be all

(01:02:57):
in the video on the record comingdown Brow, he might have been walking
towards her, might as well havebeen walking towards death. Brow with day
Bree was judging him. He wasgoing to the electric chair. All right,
I'm straight. Thank you for goodjob. That's good stuff. Before
we get out of here, wedo want to remind you guys, get

(01:03:20):
to us at KFK one. I'mgonna follow out of May. She's at
Reed twenty six, Regent twenty six. Don't call me briannag six, don't
call me Brianna at FDA show onTwitter, x, Facebook and the ground.
Thanks to Yovan Buha once again forcoming on. That was pretty best.
Yes, love having on the show. Missed him dearly. He is

(01:03:45):
a great guy, honestly, oneof the guys that's easy to root for
in this business. We like thatguy that on a night with the almost
ahole, Right, I guess you'reyou're almost yeah, you're winning me all
a break. You know, Inever heard of sports talk radio and it
was really offended. I was reallyoffended by that because I was like,

(01:04:05):
you didn't even seem to have anyinterest in trying to figure it out,
and I probably you know what,and my face is you guys know how
my facial expressions are. So maybeI gave him like a look of like,
what the fuck is wrong with you? Discuss? Yeah, you know
I'm good at that. You've neverheard of the Infinite Podcast? Are you
living on fucking mars Brokay? Thankgoodness, you guys heard of it.

(01:04:27):
We appreciate you. But listen,thank you so much. We love y'all.
We'll talk to you next week.Take it easy. So you want
us to see you up? Thankyou? What it is? Yeah,
all we're gonna say is our brace. So what's the situation like, I
don't Oh yeah, yeah, that'swhat I mean. That's what I want
to start it. Yeah, that'swhat I That's what I want. I

(01:04:48):
wanted to be tee. Oh mygod, I didn't love me before I
go here? You got this dog? Yeah,