NBA Roundtable with Bob and Eric on Clippers Russ Move, Lakers AD issues, Draymond & More...

The FnA Podcast with Kevin Figgers and Adam Auslund + Brie Brie as Bob Schmidt and Eric Sklar join the NBA Roundtable to talk about the TNT guys, Russ moving to the bench for the Clippers, the Lakers issues and AD, Draymond fight and more...

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We're regular, We're good, okayto those on the back end of the
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out a studio. It's a fullhouse and that means we got this segment

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for you here. Yee, it'stime for the NBA round Table on the
FNA Podcast with Bob Schmid and EricSklar and Breebree's here. Bob, how
are you good man? How youguys doing? Say hi to Eric?
Hello, Eric, Hey, Bob, bree how you guys? Bop says

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Hybrie. Breeze wearing a Brooklyn Dodgershat or is that a White Sox Barons
the Michael Jordan team Brooklyn Dodger hat. Okay, okay, it could have
been a U c. L Aone too. Did they blow it every
playoffs too? Or just playing themeet him every time? I thought this

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was the NBA Roundtable. You're right, the hate starts early, so I
guess we should start with the breakingnews that came out just about an hour
ago. Oh, Breeze rolling hereyes like it has to be about the
Clippers to start things off, justbecause I'm here. Oh, what do
you want to start? Oh?The Sun's Big Three finally played after fifteen
games. Congratulations, way to go. How's it feel that you guys are

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doing the same load management thing now? I guess you can't go after the
Clippers anymore. Yeah, bree doesn'thave a mic. By the way,
if you guys didn't know, theydidn't just like muzzles as we just yeah,
put her in the grinder. Okay, let's talk about this, but
first we need to hear from theexperts on this subject. Oh boy,
and by that I mean the guysfrom T and T. I think this

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was from Tuesday night. This wasthem getting to the subject. And then
there was this interesting question from Kennyto Charles that I thought we should bring
up here. We talked about isanybody gonna sacrifice? Can I ask you
something? Sure later in your career, like you weren't even I don't think
you four guys with this probably youngat that time, yourself. Scottie Pippen,

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Clyde Drexler, A keem Olajwa.I went to the Western Conference Finals,
one shot away from going to theNBA Finals. Full ball great players,
No, no, no, notnot even close. That's not even
close to a fair argument, becauseScotty Pippen was not a great offensive player.

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He didn't need the ball. Sothey're talking about the Clippers Big four,
and it eventually gets to that pointwhere Kenny asked Charles about his Rockets
team with their Big four, tocompare them to the Clippers Big four.
There's only one fucking problem them here. Scottie Pippen and Clyde Drexler were never
on the Rockets at the same time. Charles can't remember his own teammates.

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Kenny can't either, although I guessthey weren't his Rockets at the time.
But these are the guys that we'resupposed to learn about the past from and
how the NBA was played back then, and letting them, letting them talk
about the modern game is just malpractice. But whatever, they're the experts and
they can't even remember their time,their era, their teammates. Well,

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Charles does say only God is anexpert, but you know what else he
says, well, in that case, that was a problem. He gave
the disclaimer. I don't I don'tthink anyone realistically is tuning to these guys
thinking that. I mean, acouple of years ago, they didn't even
know who Christian Wood was. Jackdidn't know he existed. A giant means,
well, people just tune in becausethey're funny, and stuff like this

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happens. That's you know, No, you're right, that's what they should
be tuning in for. And it'sextremely entertaining. But they're supposed to be
analysts. They're supposed to be experts, and I get guys like Ryan from
the PMS Union saying, oh,this just proves they've forgotten more basketball than
you've ever known. When it wasjust the most ridiculous. I saw this
back and forth. If you wanthim on X okay, you want to
how did you interpret it? Howdid you miss this one? How did

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I miss this one? Yeah?You should have been involved. I really
should have. It evolved into ourusual NBA conversation is that I'm tweeted or
xed. I don't even know whatthe hell you call it at this point
in time. You know, thesame notion that he just mentioned after posting
this clip. Yeah, Ryan fromthe from the Listener Union basically said Oh,
this just proves they forgotten more thanyou'll ever know. And it's like,
well, that's not a good thing, Like, and he kept doubling

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down on it, and I waslike, well, clearly this is your
only argument and it's not a goodone. And he is making the point
that these guys played the game,they know more than you. I responded
with, there's a difference between playingthe game and knowing the game and talking
the game. Otherwise these guys wouldn'tbe wrong all the time talking about the
model game where Shacks comparing Bull Bowlto when and Yama, So what's the

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difference between them two? And youguys have talked about multiple times throughout the
years on F and A about howErnie, maybe not Ernie, but Kenny
Shack and Charles really don't watch thegame when Yeah, you're gonna have to
say it. Yeah, So it'sinteresting that people will side with them in

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these situations. Yeah, these situations, it's just casuals. Like there is
a whole base of the NBA communityon Twitter that's like us, and it's
like, okay, it's just entertainment, Like you can't take these guys seriously.
They take themselves seriously though when they'rehaving that conversation, they aren't tongue
in cheek. No, he reallybelieve that Scottie Pippen and Clyde Drexler were

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his teammates when it never happened thatninety seven Western Conference Finals with the Big
three from Houston with Clyde, Charlesand achem Elijuan. Well, where's where
Scottie Pippen? He's still bowls atthat point. He didn't come till Clyde
retied during the ninety Games summer andthen Scottie Pippen was there. What are
they talking about? Like they youcan't take anything they say seriously. They

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can't even remember their own fucking teammates. And it's just honestly, they're making
people dumber. Like they're making peoplelaugh, but they're making people dumber.
You're keen on something that illustrates thatthey didn't remember a detail about the rocket
rockstail his old teammate. Call itwhatever you want, Adam. Does it
take away from any of the pointthat they were trying to make. Well,

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they all were arguing with each other, which is my other point.
I don't even know what the pointwas. Let me tell you. I
didn't even see the segment, andI can tell you what the point was,
that it's not going to work forthe Clippers, because Adam would not
be this pissed. I could careless about that. The point that they
were saying that Russ, if somebodyneeds to sacrifice, that's how the clip

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starts, which is true, AndI said the exact same thing. They're
saying what everybody was saying about theClippers, like you have to have someone
sacrifice. Playing Russ and Harden inthe starting backcourt is not going to work.
It's so obvious even they brought itup. No I brought the first
brought him in. You're this upsetabout the fact he didn't know who was

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on his roster on the Houston Rockets. You've lost me. It's it's because
of people like Ryan who are like, these guys are the experts. You
don't know more than them about basketballthat I agree with. If there's one
trend on X, it's that assoon as some dumb former player says something
that even remotely supports a prehelp position, everybody's happy to adopt that and retweet

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that. But I think that's kindof universal. I wouldn't I wouldn't put
that just on Ryan. I mean, you could have Draymond Green say that
Lebron's the greatest of all time andI'll be retweeting him. You know,
so well, there's always confirmation bias. I get that, but it's just
amazing to me that they they can'teven remember their own teammates and we're supposed
to look to them for basketball.That is wild. I'll give you that's

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why it's next level even for them. But but the point is, I
you know, there's guys in everyfront office now that didn't play at the
highest level, like to say,only the guys who played should be talking
the game or know the game,and to take that approach, which is
where Ryan comes from and all ofthis and a lot of people do they

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say, well, these guys arethe experts though they played like it doesn't
mean it. So much of theI mean, that's so much of the
Kobe is The greatest argument is thatlook at what is Pierce said, So
I don't it does not surprise methat that would be a position that you
know, Eric, Eric, Iwas just no, I was just I
was trying to figure out where Bobwas going to go with that, and

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then he said when peers talk aboutKobe and that makes sense. Yeah,
without the actual concrete evidence and thingsto back it up, numbers wise and
all that stuff. If if guyswho played the game know the game best,
then why the fuck was Michael Jordan, who most people say is the
greatest player ever one of the worstgms of all time and can't value weight
talent. I guess he doesn't knowthe game. I guess he doesn't know

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the game. Why do some ofthese guys, like even on that show,
they all know the game, butwhy do they have different opinions that
are directly contradicting one another? Sowho do we look to like which one's
the expert? I mean who Ilook to Clipper Talk with Adam Auslin podcast
wherever you find your podcast, andyou can hey, guys, stop laughing,

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so I can cut that for aclip. Yes, yes, you
obviously as an analyst can know thegame and have a different outlook and disagree.
But that's also if you're well Youcan know the game by being well
studied and knowing trends and knowing who'splaying on what team and stats and defense
and all that stuff. Just soit helps you if you're a player,
because you can have perspective to itknowing that you played. But if you
don't follow it or don't watch itconstantly, which these guys, despite the

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fact that they do a show sometimestwice a week on TNT, clearly don't
watch the game. That's that's wherethe distinction comes in. I'd rather defer
to someone like Zach Low who's propnever picked up a basketball in his life,
so he has I'm just joking,but you know, but who covers
it, watches it, writes aboutit, knows all this stuff more than
a guy like Charles Barkley who's layingout I'm not watching this, I'm watching
it. Floyd Maywe a fight,which he said multiple times when he's sitting

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there on set at a halftime ofa playoff game. Yes, right,
that's what it is. Yesterday atpractice on the podcast I Do with Will
Updyke and Chuck Mockler, Clips andDip, we talked about all the advanced
numbers of where the Clippers are andthey're clutch rating, which has been horrible.
They've been shooting twenty five percent fromthe field in the last five minutes
of a game within five points.We've been talking about Kawhi Leonard not taking

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many shots right now next to JamesHarden, especially in the fourth quarter.
Coach Lou literally is bringing up theseexact numbers yesterday at practice. So it's
like, what do we know something? A former player who's the head coach
is talking about the exact same thingswe are, yet we didn't play the
game at the highest level. Itseems like it's not fucking brain surgery,

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and it's okay to be able totalk about the game and not be cut
off by well, you never played, so you shouldn't be talking about it.
Listen, Defer to these experts.Defer to Steve Smith on NBA TV
who once said the Dallas Mavericks andLuka Nagis beat the Clippers in the first
round, which never happened. Like, defer to these guys that are objectively

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obviously wrong about things all the time. No, it's I'm not just going
to say, well, they're theformer players, so I'm going to uh
bow down to them and whatever theysay is how we should uh look through
this lens in this narrative of whateveris going on with the Clippers now.
So in conclusion, the focus mayalways Well, I feel like that's Adam's

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just that should just be his exheadline at this point. Yeah, I'm
gonna go back and find it.I went back to listen to your podcast
with squar. I probably missed itall together. I was hoping for animosity
there by the way. That wasintense enough for me. I think it
was Tuesday. If you want tolook at the Twitter x thread, I'll
be searching from them in the backgroundover here. Yeah, okay, so

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we can move forward then, KevinWell and one thing was taken out of
loose hands, I guess. Andwho knows what happens behind closed doors,
whether or not Russ maybe he actuallydid do it publicly, and from a
pr standpoint, maybe it's like theyhad a discussion behind closed doors and say,
hey man, maybe you should reallycome off the bench. And for
us and his image, it looksbetter to say, like, you know
what I'm gonna say, I wantto come off the bench, as opposed
to because this is the where theissue comes in it with tylu and you

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bring this up at him a coupleof games ago. I think it was
after or was it right before theMemphis loss where he said like, yeah,
you know, those guys, wehave to stagger their minutes and make
sure they're not on the floor atthe same time. Between Harden and Russell,
we're trying to split them up asmuch as possible. My point was,
you're starting in the starting backcourt.Yeah, so you're starting them together.
So it made no sense. Sothat told me and a bunch of
everybody else, you're having to finda way to play kate The's egos,

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which is which was going to bedifficult when you bring these guys in now.
Russ came off the bench last yearfor the Lakers, but that was
such a shit show on a dumpsterfire. They're just trying to find anything
they possibly could to get themselves outof that two and ten hold. The
way that they started it was alittle bit different. He played well for
them down the stretch last year,Russell Westbrook did, and to start the
season before Harden was traded, hewas playing great. So I can understand
from his standpoint, it's hard tojustify asking him to come off the bench.

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And I was like, what I'mdoing is working. Why do you
want to move me? Yeah,So it's not an easy thing, no,
no, And so I'm recognizing thatit was a difficult spot for Tyler
to be in. The problem isyour actions and your words are not lining
up, and that's where the issuescame in. You can't say we can't
play these guys together, but you'replaying them together. So the report from
Chris Hanes this morning comes out thatRussell Westbrook told the Clippers I want to

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come off the bench and Terrence Manis not going to be in the starting
lineup and see if that makes adifference. I think it's going to make
a world difference. I said fromday one, that's what it should be.
That is your lineup there, That'swhat we assumed it was going to
happen. I think most of usthey're playing the long game here while things
happen looked good so far with JamesHarden and the starting lineup basically, in
about fifty eight minutes so far sinceJames has been there next to Russell Westbrook

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has been shooting thirty eight percent fromthe field. So even though they're not
playing, they're playing like fourteen tofifteen minutes together a night. That starting
lineup is at the start of firstquarters, third quarters. It's pretty important
not to get beat in those minutesall the time, and they've just been
objectively bad. You can't have twoball dominant guys in the backcourt. Everybody
knew it because at first they said, oh, well, James can play

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off ball, so we'll have theball in Russ's hands. But it's like,
are you getting the most out ofJames Harden if you're playing him off
ball and trying to make him KlayThompson. He just hasn't done that.
It's so long too. Yeah,just because he can do it or some
of the numbers, say on verylow volume from three on catch and shoots,
he can knock him down at fortyone percent, doesn't mean that's what
he's best at. That's not optimizingJames Harden. The long game is for

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them to win a championship. Ithink James Harden has to be the third
best player on this team to dothat, Russell, Westprick and him can't
be conflicting roles in the backcourt.Bob, do you see like that?
I agree. I agree with everythingKevin said. I agree with everything you
said here. I think we're NBAanalysts. We didn't play the game.
This was the inevitable conclusion it tookfive games to get there, but honestly,

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that's maybe faster than I thought theywould have arrived, one hundred percent
faster than I thought it was goingto be. Eric, how did he
look to you as a Laker comingoff the bench last seas? He looked
better. He looked because he hadmore control over the second unit and had
like the can't talk, the decisionmaking capabilities of being that number one person
in that unit. He looked better. Obviously it didn't work out with the

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Lakers because of the roster construction theyhad with them, but it was the
same problem. You can't have himand Lebron James, both guys threw a
ball dominant in the starting lineup.Obviously, Lebron James is it going to
the bench? Right? And youactually kind of see a similarity between what
the Lakers have been doing the lastcouple of days or the last couple of
games with moving Austin Reeves to thebench and putting Cam Reddish in the starting

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lineup because there were issues with thebackcourt with D'Angelo Russell and Austin Reeves being
the starting backcourt. So yeah,it's I think this is exactly what the
Clippers needed to do. And itdoesn't guarantee that they're going to go on
a six game winning streak now afterbeing on a six game losing streak just
because they made this move. Butnow you're building I think the right way.
Right, you're building better habits tobasic to create winning ways for your

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team. And if that's what Imean, I don't I personally don't believe
Russell Westbrook is the one who cameup with this idea. I think that
the Clippers came to him about this, because that's all the indications that happened
last year. Obviously, he's ina much better place now with the Clippers
and in a much different environment thanhe was with He's been embraced. He's
been embraced. He's been embraced him. He's in a much better place with

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the Clippers. Damn it, Bobby, right Eric is on medication right now.
A little disclosure, this guy isplaying. I'm playing like AD was
playing the other night, Curious wankinginjury. Okay, Bob, I know
that picture in the er with thewith the tissues next to my right arm
was not the greatest picture, butI was also drugged up then and I

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wasn't thinking clearly. Credit to Eric, though he's in a damn sling.
He came in today and did takehis bets because he had to drive to
come in, so he's literally inpain while doing this podcast, but he
wanted to come on for the NBArounds. Were load managing today? I
like it? No, but Ihave wasn't load managing before either. I

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have some numbers though, Adam,for you, because I'm interested to hear
what you think of this. Andobviously it's a small sample size. With
James Harden being on the team.Probably the numbers you probably do lineups with
Kawhi, Paul George, and RussellWestbrook no James Harden two hundred and ninety
nine total possessions this year a plusthirty two point nine net rating. Now

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with Kawhi, Paul George and JamesHarden no Russell Westbrook only fifty eight possessions.
I know, small sample size,minus sixteen point two net rating.
What are your thoughts? Not worriedabout it? That's part of the transition.
It's going to take time. PlusJames Harden, it's not like he
came in hitn't even ground running.He didn't have a training camp. Oh

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that's all he's been saying is he'she doesn't have a preseason, he doesn't
have a training camp. Whose faultwas that James look different issues, separate
issue, I understand, But heobviously looked his best in Game five with
the Clippers against the Denver Nuggets,like he is turning a corner and coming
along there. Yes, But thosenumbers with Russ, I'll say this,
I just don't think they were sustainablebecause they had two blowouts against Portland against

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the Spurs that skewed the numbers againstOrlando as well. Now credit to them,
they beat up on lesser teams andRussell was very good in those games,
But I don't think they were goingto be at one hundred and thirty
rating offense the entire season. Likethat wasn't sustainable, just like the bad
numbers with James Harden are not sustainablethat will eventually level out. Yeah,

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Kevin, I guess my thing isthey're figuring out this bit the clutch numbers,
because what is your closing line upgonna be. We're talking about egos
and playcating on all that stuff.And Russell Westbrook, who I'm assuming he
is probably gonna be the hot manout in a situation like this, though
I could be wrong. He wasalready taken out the last two games late
in the game, and I commendcoach Lue for doing it, because when
the game slows down, that's notwhen Russ is at his best. He's

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at his best when we's at afast paced, controlled ca like when it's
more methodical, that's the perfect timeto have James Harden next to two,
one to three. Yeah, andhe took him out the last couple of
games to his credit. Yeah.And figuring out who gets the right and
we've talked about this forever passes tothe open man run some plays. It
doesn't necessarily have to be this guy'sgetting the last shot, but when you
have who's a premium shot maker atPaul George at this point in time,

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I mean, he's been amazing.And obviously what Kawhi Lenry can do.
I know he struggled from the fieldthe last game. And we know James
Harden as ball dominant, as abit of a ball stopper as he is,
he can make some clutch shots aswell. Is just determining who has
the ball in in what situation.They had their passing and cutting offense they
were doing earlier on but that doesn'tnecessarily fit what James Harden likes to do.
I think that's part of the reasontoo. And I'm malcam figuring out

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just getting these big four to worktogether in those clutch moments like you were
talking about earlier, I think iseven more critical because you have so many
guys who can take that last shot. Well, yeah, and it's just
look James Harden running the pick androll. Even though they haven't done it
much yet with the Clippers, hehasn't been himself. They're getting a point
and a half per possession when theydo it like that means in a hundred

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possessions they would score one hundred andfifty points. It is very effective.
You do have to run the offensethrough him. That was the mistake they
made it first, he's gonna playoff ball, it's gonna be rustled the
basketball. Then two games later theysaid, oh, we're gonna run it
through James Harden. So there wasthis mixed message going on. There were
too many conflicts. But for themto be at their best, James Harden
has to be James Harden regardless ofwhat you think of his game, you

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don't bring him in to be anyoneelse but himself. And what you want,
Bob is him playing like he didin Brooklyn next to Kyrie and KD.
They only played a handful of games, but they were dominant when they
were together. I agree, Iagree. I mean, honestly, I'm
kind of with you guys on allthis. The whole concept of James is
gonna be the one closing games.It makes the most sense, and a

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half court offense that you gotta givehim the ball in his hands more.
You have to take advantage of allthose things, which he's obviously best at
doing. I'm glad, and againit's just really I didn't expect immediate success.
I don't know that I expected,you know, five losses in a
row or whatever. But still Ithink there's plenty of time to kind of

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get it figured out. I don'tknow if I ultimately believe that James will
you know, it'll be flawless,but certainly I think there's a I think
it's a step in the right directionto identify all those things and to you
know, get these guys into somesort of rhythm where they know when they
can each attack and how to coexisttogether. One question that I have,

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and Chris Haynes mentioned it in thatarticle announcing that Russ was moving to the
bench. He Chris Haynes used theterm Russell Westbrook is the vocal leader of
this team and it's kind of beenthat way since he's gotten to the Clippers,
And me personally, I think that'sa huge issue because if your vocal
leader on the team isn't going tobe on the court in the fourth quarter.

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I think that's an issue because withstar players like Paul George and Kawhi
Leonard, you're not getting that typeof vocal leadership. But if there are
the ones out on the court andRuss is on the bench, there's going
to be nobody to blame but theguys on the court. I kind of
think that's a little bit overstated.One. I think the whole concept of
pushing that Russ is a leader offthe court helps lessen the sting of being

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moved to the bench. And secondly, I think there's plenty of times where
the vocal leader of the team it'snot indicative of who's playing the most,
who the best player is on theteam. Sometimes it's just the VET who
has their respective guys and can youknow, confront them with tough truths and
call them out. And I don'tthink Russ necessarily has to be on the
floor to do that, because ifthings start unraveling in the fourth while he's

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on the bench, those situations aregoing to arise in timeouts where he can
call them in and stoppages where theytry to rein it back in and figure
in, you know, what's goingwrong? How can we adapt to this?
Plus also I always think it's kindof overstated in some regards to it,
because yeah, Kuhi and Paul aren'tas demonstrative as those guys, but
to think that they wouldn't intervene insituations where things need to be pointed out

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or people need to be I wentafter the other day on that. Yeah,
I'm glad you brought up he didbecause one issue and you tell me,
Adam, whether or not this canbe fixed or not, is the
rebounding issue and something that's been anissue for them for a couple of years.
But I think it's even more glaringnow. You zapped a lot of
your depth, especially in the frontcourt. Zubots is very good. He's
a very good center. But nowyou don't have the backup and Plumbly who's

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injured. Like, how big ofan issue is that for this team,
knowing they don't have as much depthin the front court as they once did,
and that Plumbley is out? Ishe out through the first of the
year. He's out for two months, so it could be till the end
of December. Are there any bigare there any tampering investigations going on into
Daniel Tye and what's going on overthere? And you're talking. I'm saying,

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you know what, we've been talkingabout the Clippers for too long here.
You're damn right for me to saythat. But your biggest concern with
the Lakers so far getting off theslow starts and second chance points. Rebound.
I guys got a rebound an issue. Uh yeah, But before we
get to the like a rebounding issue, I do want you to answer the
question, the question about the Clippersrebound because I tried to get off the

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high I saw what you were tryingto do that. No, I'm it's
a legit issue. They have todo it collectively, and Kawhi and Paul
George have to do more of thedirty work now because they lost three wings.
Now, one of them wasn't playingat all in Marcus Roco wasn't used
last year. Nicholas Batoumb though,has been big and they've been really good
in Philly so far, he andRoco, so they got to do it

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collectively. And this is the othergood thing. It went under the radar
that when you have Russ and youhave James Harden in the starting backcourt,
that immediately bumps up Kawhi and PaulGeorge to have to play the three and
the four. And while they cando it, has it been taking something
out of Kawhi Leonard playing the powerforward and his legs don't aren't there with

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you in the fourth quarter when heneeds the knock down jump shot. So
I think with Terrence Man in there, he can guard so many different positions.
He's he's a really good rebounder.I know he's just six five sixty
six, but this guy battles.I think it's just gonna take even less
off the plate of Kawhi and PaulGeorge for doing so much of the dirty
work right now with all the wingslost. But it is an issue,

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and look if they played Zubots atthe end of that game, and they
stayed small. He was playing wellagainst Jokis as well as well as you
could. Had thirteen boards, sevenoffensive rebounds. Jokis was eight of twenty
three from the field. That mighthave been enough just having Zubots on to
be big enough to win that gamewhen they were up seven with six minutes
left in Denver, but they stayedsmall. So they do have an issue

(26:38):
of being a little too small,and that hurts you on the boards,
it hurts your defense at times.Is definitely worth monitoring. Yeah, now
the issue with size and going toyour lakers there, Eric, and specifically
the other night. Now I sawthe stat was it, is it eight
or Owen nine? Anthony Davis isagainst the Mantis a bonus or something like
that. I see I saw fromCarmichael Daves of the Sacramento Cakes that he's

(27:02):
it doesn't it doesn't surprise me becausehe's owing two right now this season because
they lost an overtime a couple ofweeks ago, and then last night or
two nights ago, they lost,and I don't know what the individual numbers
are throughout the course of that matchup. What the situation has been I can
speak to the other night Sabonus whippedhis ass, his ass, but nobody's
talking about how how hurt is he. That's where I was gonna bring up.
Well, because of the ad kickedSabonis's ass two three weeks ago and

(27:26):
put Ebery in sixteen, I remember, no one's talking about that, But
yes, my id is hurt.Yes, stuff the big takeaway from me,
and we're talking about a little managementand the NBA is trying to do
away with it. And I knowit's a nationally televised game on ESPN,
but it was a second of aback to back. He's dealing with a
legitimate hip injury, and he clearlydidn't look right, at least to me.
I wasn't at the game. Hegrabbed his hip in the first quarter.
It's certain at a certain point.And if he says he wants to

(27:48):
play, I think that's great.I think that's admirable. But if you're
a Darvin Ham in that situation,you say, you know what you played
eight nine minutes and this guy's kickingyour ass and hitting floaters over the top
of you and you have the reachadvantage, I'm gonna go ahead and sitch
it. Yeah, I don't thinkit's worth the risk on the second hand,
of a back to back with aguy that's dealing with a legitimate hip
injury, just to put him outthere, just to say, like,
well, he's gutting through and he'splaying because you know he has a history,

(28:10):
luxury history. Why would you whywould you subject him to that?
I put that on Darbenham. Yeah, I completely agree it's But on the
other aspect, a D doesn't getenough credit. When he's playing through injuries,
no problem, he can't win.The problem is when he's playing through
injuries, he hasn't been as effectiveand it's hurting the team. In defense
of a D too, if thatwas a shell of himself, a D

(28:32):
who who gave up that game toSabonis. I mean Sabonis faced a Cavs
team that was perfectly healthy with twogiant men in the front court the night
before at you know, the gamebefore, and he'd murdered them too.
His last his stretching taken away.Fox has come back has been unbelievable.
So I know it's a little columna little column B, but I think
it's an under talked about story howridiculous Sabonis has been for this last stretch

(28:56):
of games here, No, Imean, I mean in four games he's
an all. He's averaging a tripledouble over his last four game. Yeah,
I don't want to take away fromhim. These people have called him
baby yokch Like. I don't necessarilydisagree with that. I get it.
I still think it's a mistake theytrade Halliburton and signed simonas to this deal.
But whatever, I don't know.Sometimes I will say it's part of
it is just the fact that theyabsolutely obliterated the Calves, So there's some

(29:19):
you know, recency bias there.But seeing how that team looks when dearon
Fox is on the floor this year, I would not be shocked at all
to see the Kings, you know, jump up in the standings. Vastly
great as Halliburton is he and Ido think that Si Bonus and Fox together
are pretty ridiculous too. Well.Halliburton and Fox are just both so effective
with the ball of it. Halliburtonhave like fifteen assists and no turnover.

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That's ridiculous. They're both extremely talentedand I'm sure they could have found a
way to make it work. Butfrom a roster balance standpoint, I still
think it made sense to send offHalliburton, even though I think it's a
win win situation for both teams,And I honestly think you could make the
argument that Halliburton is like a topfive MVP candiate date at this point right
now, absolutely out of his mind. Yeah. The The problem though with
the Lakers and facing Sabonis the othernight, was when a D came out,

(30:11):
they had nobody to put on Sabonisbecause no, you can't. You
can't, yeah, my guy,you can't put You can't put Christian wood
in, Jackson Hayes on Tamanta Sabonisbecause Demanta Sabonis is too quick, too
big, and he'll get right aroundthem. The Lakers tried to put Ruy
Hachimura on him, but Rui's justtoo small, so it they That was

(30:32):
one of the reasons why I wasclamoring for a guy like Bismack Biambo,
who the Lakers were facing against theGrizzlies the game before the Kings and a
D made Biambo and Tillman looks sillythat night. It they just don't have
anybody that can guard those big guys. Like Sabonis, like Djoki when a

(30:52):
d goes to the bench, andthat's a big issue for them. I
uh, I still think the Lakersare dangerous for this reason, and that's
not exactly going on. They're dangerousbecause they are one of the few teams
in this league that doesn't have torely on three points shooting to have a
good night. They're gonna get seventypoints in the paint. They're gonna get

(31:15):
seventy points of the free throw line. Hey, have they not attempted over
five hundred more free throws of theiropponents over the last year, fouling one
of the in points in the paint. They're not first in points in the
paint, they're six. So thatargument of well, nobody gets to the
room more than them, it's nottrue. They also they're great at it.

(31:41):
Apparently they're first and free throws fewestfree throws against. Like, they're
not fouling, but they're getting allthe fouls. It's just it's just has
been very inconsistent. Remember how allof a sudden they started getting all those
free throws after complaining last season,and then they complained again this James clearly
got hacked in that game against Boston. I've just said the NBA omitted publicly.
They made a mistake. I Beverlyliterally had to show the ref the

(32:04):
camera. It was weird that theNBA came out like that on Twitter.
I've never seen anything like absolutely devastated, heartbroken. But the correlation from that
point on of how many free throwsthey got it went up significantly. How
does Damian Lillard get more free throwsper game than Lebron James? I agree,
Lebron doesn't get the best whistle.I know a lot of people are

(32:25):
going to push back against this,but if you look at the numbers and
how often he's at the rim,you would think he would take more free
throws. Damian Lillard takes like twelvefree throws a game. It's crazy.
I mean when you look at it, Lebron his high seasons were you know,
ten free throws. It's just you'rethat big and you're that strong.
It's hard pressed, unless, ofcourse, you Joel and beat and you

(32:46):
have a doctor prescribed flop agenda,and then that case you can go to
the line twelve thirteen times a game. But so, how do you guys
attack the rumors about Zach Levine.If Chicago's going on a fire sale and
if the Lakers are in net interested, they couldn't make a trade until January,
I believe, just because of thecontracts they have to move, whether
it's Rory Hachimura or D'Angelo Russell,someone throughout. I know who it was.

(33:07):
It was David Assay to me lastweek, So they should trade Anthony
Davis? Was like that, Firstof all, they can't. First of
all, they can't. They can'ttrade Anthony Davis until next season because of
the extension, and they never wouldtrade him for Zach Levine. That's number
one two, I guess, juston this topic, the Lakers just got
off of a big three when itcomes to Westbrook. Now, Levin is
obviously better and a better fifth thanWestbrook will be for this team. But

(33:28):
are you gutting the depth that youjust built, knowing that it would take
probably Rory, probably de Loo andwhatever draft capital that you have left,
which is not much over this nextsix or seven years to bring in Zach
Levine, who's good but is alsoinjury prone. Yeah. The only way
that I think I'm unloading a majortrade package for Zach Levine if I'm the

(33:49):
Lakers, is if Alex Cruso isadded into that deal as well. Okay,
that's the only way that's a Lakerinterpretation. I don't think there is
a major trade package that the Lakerscan give up if they get Levin.
I don't think they should make thetrade because I think Ruey was one of
their more effective players agreed in thepostseason last year. So I think it's
nice on paper, but I don'tthink it's one of those trades. Just

(34:10):
like when KCP was gone, somethings you kind of take for granted and
then you realize when you don't havethe depth, you don't have the depth.
Levine may seem attractive on paper,but to me, you know,
DLO and Ruiy and whatever scrap garbagefor draft picks. I'm only fifty to
fifty on that being a good movein the first place. So this idea

(34:30):
that they could get extra stuff though, I mean, Caruso has one of
the most valuable contracts imaginable for aguy that contributes to what he contributes.
So if I'm the Bulls and I'mcommitted to blowing it up, I am
separating those assets just like how Portlanddid and getting rid of Lillard and trying
to get multiple pieces in multiple dealsso that collectively what they bring back is

(34:51):
justifiable. I'm not humoring any typeof deal that's bringing me second round picks
from the Lakers at you know,middling range players and then given giving up
the whole you know, kitten kaboodle. I think the Lakers would throw in
the twenty twenty nine or twenty thirtyfirst round pick for and yeah, they'd
have to, and probably a swapin there somewhere too. Yeah. So,

(35:12):
but I definitely agree with Bob thatgiving up all of the depth for
Zach Lavine that they had just gottenand gotten that last year's trade deadline,
it's probably not in the best interestof the Lakers when they're trying to create
all of this continuity. And thisis the first time in the last three
years that they've had continuity going intoa season. So it's it's it's a

(35:34):
tough call because obviously in LA youhave to play Kate to the star factor
and all of that. I alsoam of the belief that I don't think
I think the NBA should probably starttrending to go away from the big threes
and the big fours. I thinkyou can win a championship with just two.
The Lakers just did it in twentytwenty. Denver, Yes, Denver

(35:54):
just did it last year, Soit's it'd be nice. Obviously, we
love here in LA going after allthe stars and all the big names,
but I think for you can stillgo after stars, they just can't be
contractually stars. I mean that's theone nice thing about Levine as well.
Uh, he was kind of signedbefore some of these huge, huge jumps

(36:16):
he came up, so at leastcontractually, there's a lot of guys on
his level that aren't necessarily the levelof player that he is contractually speaking.
Right, Yeah, it's I agreeto your general sentiment that the big shift
is going to be. You know, if name value players are commanding such
huge portions of the cap moving forward, such big dollars that will push you
deep into those you know, firstapron second apron situations, it's only going

(36:39):
to be logical for teams to moveon from guys sooner, similar to like
what the Nuggets did with Bruce Brown, where it's like, okay, he's
valuable, but we can't have aguy like that commanding twenty million dollars a
season. We were better suited tojust take whatever hit we take in terms
of productivity for a guy who cangive us eighty percent of that at you
know, five percent of the cost. Okay, And the Lakers kind of

(37:00):
went through that with this offseason,with the Austin Reeves contract situation and seeing
if the Spurs were going to offerhim one hundred miller. The Lakers could
only offer him what they gave him, and that's who the Bulls would want.
But I'm sure you're not giving himup quickly though. Before we get
to Draymond, get the phone callsand get out speak of the devil.
I just got a text from Ryanfrom the PMS Union. He doesn't believe

(37:22):
that Russ volunteered to go to thebench. I did allude to that early
on, and maybe he did.All I know is I responded saying,
sorry, can't get to this rightnow, too busy shitting on you on
the podcast. So I think weall agreed with Bryan there though, for
the most Yeah. Yeah, sincesince you're here, Bob, why don't

(37:42):
you shit on Draymond Green for whathe did. I've been waiting for this.
Oh Jesus, Well, I mean, I feel like this is so
you know, the best man inmy wedding is a diehard Warriors fan,
and he is such a better personthan me because he listens to all my
stupid podcasts. Uh. And it'sjust been nothing but me shitting all over
Draymond the better part of the week. And then finally, when I thought
it was all but wrapped up,you know, finally Steve Kerr comes out

(38:07):
and kind of walks back his previouspostgame press conferences. It was it was
bad enough in the Calves game whereit gave the cheap shot to Donovan Mitchell
in the back and then gets thrownout. And how does the discourse shift?
It shifts too, well, whyare we allowed to review things that
happened to play before, which,by the way, the only thing separating
that if Kris Lavert misses that freethrow that or that layup that then sent

(38:32):
the ball the other way, isit considered the same possession at that point?
Because if that's the case, ifhe gets shoved in the back by
Draymond, goes flying out of bounds, the Calves missed the lay up,
they go running the other way,is that considered part of the same play,
because if it is then making thatdistinction that we can't throw Draymond out
of the game for a cheap shotbecause it happened on the previous play,

(38:52):
it invalidates your whole argument. Okay, side that's a sidebar, though.
What about the Rudy Gobert situation.Yeah, the Rudy Gobert situation, I
think it's pretty clear what happened,despite what Steve Kerr seemed to see out
there, which is, Okay,Clay grabs McDaniels, they get into it,
they start shoving. Gobar comes in, he wraps up Clay, the

(39:13):
closest guy to him, and thecrux of most Wawyers fans feelings seems to
be, well, you got tograb your own guy. And it's like,
how many dust ups have we seenthroughout NBA history where guys like Steven
We've seen where Steven Adams picks aguy up from the other team, carries
him at a half court to separatehim from a player. I don't I
think what was apparent there. Theimportant thing that was apparent there is that

(39:37):
Rudy Gobert was trying to de escalatethe situation. He was trying to prevent
people from coming to blows. Butregardless of that, Steve Kerr apparently saw
that as he grabbed him by theneck, and Draymond Green comes in and
he just tries to choke him out, holds onto him for four five six
seconds. You could see Kerk justpleading, please let him go, let

(39:58):
him go, Draymond. And afterthe game, somehow all of a sudden,
well you know, it was Gobertheld on to Clay's neck and so
Draymond was defending him. I justget so tired of people carrying water for
this guy time and time again.Like it's okay, it's okay to just
say, yes, I hope youdon't suspend him. But he's an unrepentant

(40:21):
asshole who will never change who andand that's just what it is. You
don't have to like come up witha false justification because it just makes it
worse when all of us have eyes, when there's a thousand replays from every
angle and you can see lie afterlie deconstructed as they as they all the
footage just lives online now. Soto say that they they kicked it off,

(40:45):
No, they didn't. Clay grabbedhis jersey to say that Rudy Gobert
grabbed Clay by the neck. Nohe didn't, he wrapped him up.
To say that Draymond Green was justtrying to protect Clay. Okay, how
far are you willing to take that? Because he literally just dragged him.
Rudy had both his hands in theair. I will say bravo to Rudy
for the comments he made in theaftermath, because you know, I sent

(41:07):
it to you guys offline, butafter the Donovan incident, I had made
like a parody song shitting on Draymond. We're gonna play of the show.
So one of the things I pointedout was that it seems like every time
that Steph is out, Draymond justdoesn't want to play, and sure enough
he gets himself kicked out of anothergame that Steph isn't in. I heard

(41:28):
of stat and it's like ten percentof the game Steph hasn't played, Draymond's
been ejected or nine percent something tothat effect, which is absolutely insane.
So if I'm going to credit anything, though, last night, after losing
to the thunder Kerr did seem tofinally say something something that approached the idea
of this is unacceptable. Will theydo anything to change it? No,
they let him punch a teammate inthe face, and they traded the teammate.

(41:50):
But at least at least that wasa little more tolerable than not only
witnessing him being a complete maniac,but then hearing his coach co sign it
in the post game. And that'sall. That's all I'll say. And
sorry, Jared, I apologize.Don't listen to this podcast. Perfectly put.
We went in harder Bob or thatDallas announcer about James Harden last.
Oh. I can't believe they tookthat down. I know it was disrespectful,

(42:15):
performative. It was absolutely click bait. I do love how somebody took
the ether bed and put that underneath. That was that was pretty good production
value there. And by the way, Draymond got off easy five games.
Yeah, they said they said theywere going off of previous history. It
should have been five a previous incident. You could have got thirty if it
was based off of previous history.All right, anyway, to the talk
ass hotline, we go N seveneight eleven ninety seven is the phone number.

(42:40):
We got two phone calls here,all right, here's number one yours,
gentlemen, this is a big lulehere. I had went to the
Clipper game was Sunday versus the Memphisrelief. Syout jah AnGR rants and uh
turn the radio and I didn't hearmiss of so I assume the worst that

(43:01):
you know, you got got therona. It wasn't going to work the
game. But when I got tothe stadium, I was informed that Adam
have received a lucrative offer from theLakers to do sideline reporting four years,
one million a year and also docourt side selfies with the players. So
congrast Adam on your new job,and I you know Clippers will miss you

(43:24):
before you go to can you haveone of the Clippers stars make a jump
shot? Because I don't know whathappened Sunday, but they must have went
out a party in Saturday night.They were at the they were at the
speerimint Rhino or something, because theythinking out loud they need to work on
the jumper. Fix it? Fixit now? Was this one of those

(43:46):
like Saturday or Sunday matinee? Dothe Kings play that night or the Lakers
play that night? And that's whythey didn't let you in the building,
Adam says, let me in.It's like at the so your new job
was playing after your old job.I don't have have a new job.
I'm not working. You can getme tickets to the Lakers now. No,
if I did, I would getyou tickets. I thought the reason

(44:07):
Adam was out it was he wasinvolved in in the great fat Gate of
Sklar in twenty twenty double injury.All right, let's stop roasting my ass.
So we have another call here,one more. What's up, guys,
it's been a minute. I don'twant to let m be able to

(44:30):
wheel his way out of avoiding thelou Williams quote that happened earlier this week.
We don't need to talk about it. So I would like you to
address it because I don't want youto get I don't want to. I
ain't risking the fact that no one'sgonna call and ask you, so I'm
gonna make sure I do it.I like that you got mellow later.

(44:53):
That is the king hater right.There andre three thousand ways to hate on
fn A. It's awesome how hedefinitely never sound drunk at all and completely
sober, but whenever he calls in. I have many thoughts on the what
Louiams have to say about it?You didn't hear it, but I want
to get Adam's thoughts first. Uh. I think we should move on from

(45:15):
that situation with the Clippers up threeto one in the bubble and they lost.
At that point, they was like, why are we even here?
We have but why did they whydid they lose out? I don't need
to be here no more because theydon't need to be there, mostly because
they kept playing Montres Harrold Nicolay Eric. It was day ninety five and they
were tired of being there. Andif they someone told them after they were
up three to one that the championshipwouldn't matter no way, So what the

(45:36):
hell were here for? Part?Let's just lay down and get up out
of here. I'm sorry they weren'tright about that part. Nobody was talking
about that then, nobody. Don'tlet them do it. Don't let him
draw into this, because we allknow no fan base will be beating their
chest harder. I'll poke your separatedshoulder pandemic inside of a dome on Mars

(45:57):
wherever it was played. The Clippershad won a championship up in that bubble.
You best believe I bet you thecity of l a would have given
them a parade. I wouldn't gothat far, you guys. If the
Clippers only championship came in the bubble, they would never hear the end of
it. Of course, it doesn'tcount when you're only one coming. Slipper
fans would never let try to letanybody else hear the end of it.
We got a championship, it's justas legitimate. We played all these games,

(46:19):
but to the end of days,and they would be they would be
shouted down by many, many morevocal Laker fans, and the narrative would
become it didn't matter. I wouldn'thave been one of those Laker fans.
I wouldn't I wouldn't know. Iwouldn't know, Adam, be honest,
do you really think that I wouldsay that it was illegitimate? No,
you're a good, reasonable person.Oh great, Look, whoever would have

(46:50):
won the championship, whoever the biggestrival was, was probably gonna say it
was illegitimate. Anyway, I thinkwe're probably just resign ourselves to that fact.
Regardless off who would have won,I'd say it was legit. If
Anthony David has ever put up thoseshooting them again, hit the music now,
this is the way a podcast hasto end, and we never speak
again. This is the most successfulNBA around table. Believe that one thing

(47:14):
we haven't got to hear from Breeburyquickly on the Phoenix Suns. Any concerns,
break everything? Everything's fine? Howabout that first season tournament game?
Who cares about that? About that? I agree with that. I agree
no one cares about the n seasontournament right over? Cat, Yeah,
that was nice, pretty sweet andhis you Bank's guys playing a little bit.

(47:35):
I like him, but they hadto tamper for him so well,
acting like cast to Kevin but tumble. Hey, the Clipp's got a big
tournament game tonight against Houston, allright, trying to do a big game.
They need to break the losing streak. Please God, see what happens.
You're not a Lakers fans coming outof me right now, right or
by neck. Eric's been pretty nicethough for the most part, well because

(47:59):
the Lakers have been doing that welleither. So out of nights where the
Clippers played first and then the Lakerslater, the Clippers lose and I know
Eric was licking his chops ready togo after me, but then he could
because the Lakers ended up losing.Eric takes his aggression out on his penis,
and Moss belitants. Hello on thatnote, Hey, now, thank

(48:22):
you guys for joining us on.I mean, we haven't got a legit
reason for the injury to Eric.But I was saying, that's why he
hasn't tweeted you as much as likehe's, uh, you know he's I
haven't. I have not been livetweeting the games as much because it is
hard to live tweet with it slingon. But No, I slipped in
a bathroom in Vegas. Yes,I was drunk. No, it had
nothing to do with it. Iwas drunk, but it had nothing to

(48:45):
do with that. Yes, becauseit was long after I'd stopped drinking.
I think it's easier to justify beingdrunk and slipping in the bathroom than if
your stone cold sober, Even ifit's not your fault in the bathroom floor,
it is just really slippery. No, I slipped on a towel in
a bathroom, did uh alert respondingtime? Luckily my friends were right there,

(49:05):
guys. Yeah, I was Iwas screaming, bloody murder. Also,
did they throw you out? Iwas like, now this guy's way
too hammer, get him out ofhere. You your boys, we're done
now. Well, you're a badassfor coming in today and playing hurt and
you're genning job. Yeah, andhis finger bag, Josh Cogy is stronger
than I am. They had toknock me to put my shoulder back.
Damn. That's scary. Yeah,it was bad. Well, thanks for

(49:30):
doing this today. Appreciate you guys, both of you. Guysob it added
a lot to our show. Yourshoulder, Yeah, got way more of
it than I thought we would.Appreciate you guys. All right, thank
you, Bob, Bob all right, and thank you guys for listening.
If you want to leave a voicemail, you can nine seven eight eleven ninety
seven. Hit us up on ex, Instagram and Facebook at fn A show

(49:50):
Adam is that follow out of May? I am at Kpig one coming up
next, Bob's amazing disc track onDraymond Green. We love you guys.
We'll talk to you next week.Oh Clippers is always so, He's a
assome off the pond on beside myself. All the real ones they understand.

(50:12):
I just hope that tray on Greengets run over by not a normal van,
one that's transporting dildo and at thepoint of impact they're a shopped in
different hole. Beady of buddies carrywater. T and T and Coward have

(50:38):
him on the payroll, so theytry to fill up their airwaves with their
unobjective praise, feeding all of usexcuses for Drace always dirty plays. He's
a prickman, he's am a kicka dick belt. I never set the
screen where he isn't sliding and grabbingshit man sins to mis gains that Stephie

(50:58):
cannot play is legas seen built onthe shoulders of Korean clay brought this year.
He shoved our center instead of boxingout all and he lost his balance
and his leg came flying down andit struck his penis. St I saw
Draymond cup jump lip down my screenthat stood up as the Carmide came raining
down. I'm good emotional when Isee the title of twenty sixteen, Let's

(51:22):
Cleveland spoiled all the warrior stupid titledreams go. I thing about Draymond running
to a phone as the kaspop champagneblumbering Katie, I need you. He
thinks he'll never be the seven myself, so beside myself. Although he wants
a understand, I just hop thedram My Green gets killed by a seely

(51:45):
fan, not a normal fan.Chump chump chump, chump, chump chop
one that's hanging a bit too low. The blazer razor sharps for made being
made a huge too. Don't givea keep, Hayton. Tell all your
kids the situation. They were leadingthree to one when that abomination poked the

(52:09):
bear top, a choke job ofentire generations, because that man is a
fucking temperamentor sand prince, a fuckingdumb homeless people. They just gave Bob
draymon'sposed to its fire all, butthey'd rather die from the vent and all.
Grab that bottle and I'll the dBefore I see dray pull up from
three drunk his hand its, he'llrealize the better option is just to die.

(52:30):
It's a sign on the bricks everytime that he fires, and I'll
revel in it till the day heretires, and that's when I'll be cert
with Written's fuck face finally drawn myangertin. That's why I'm always beside myself.
All the real ones they understand.I just hold the Draymond, greedy,

(52:53):
dick head. Kids killed by yourstay. It's a crime I love.
I'm clearly insane because I love Robertfan of Dirty Brooks. Before he
leaves the scene, he fills tracechords with Robert Dick. And now I'll

(53:25):
lend this song with that disturt fisual