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December 22, 2023 81 mins
The FnA Podcast with Kevin Figgers and Adam Auslund. Bob Schmidt joins the show for the NBA Roundtable to talk about the Lakers losing since the in-season tournament, the Clippers winning with James Harden and Shaq saying Steph Curry could be GOAT. Then non-traditional Christmas movies.
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Adam Alstland with you guys once again. We got our Christmas show for you
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Because I have a pretty good ideaof what one of them at least is
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In our first segment, okay,gun in our first segment, Well,
it's the return of the round tablehere, yee yee, It's time for
the NBA Roundtable on the FNA podcastwith Bob Schmidt. What about Bob Schmidt,
the voice of A five seventy andFox Sports Radio joining us and the

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voice of the Fear the FRO podcastwhere people are trying to tell him that
Donovan Mitchell should be moved. Nowwhat asinine? State outrageous? It's Christmas
for fu sake, These people doingmy stocking, not even cold, justs
shit. So a few different topicsto get to today. Coming up,

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We'll talk about the comment made byShack regarding Steph Curry on T and T
the other night, but we juststart with the local teams here and the
Lakers, because I hear from BenMaller all the time that the real story
is in the losing locker room,where the Lakers have lost five of six
now after losing last night in Minnesota, best team in the West won eighteen

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to one eleven. No Lebron James. But uh, this Lakers team,
it looks like to me. AndI said this on Rogan and Rodney yesterday.
Was lucky to be on that show. Kevin book me that the Lakers
look like a team that is havingan adrenaline dump since the n season tournament
where they got up emotionally physically totry to win that thing that nobody can

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about all already, and it's workingagainst them now because I can see them
losing to Minnesota like that. Ican see them losing to the Knicks.
I can see them losing to theMavericks. But the Spurs and the Chicago
Bulls, who I think we're elevenand seventy. The Bulls were playing better.
I still don't think that's gonna excusefor them to lose to them,
But the Bulls have been playing better. But Heleben, we have to condition

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that because we face them next.If we lose to them. Oh yeah,
I can't be disparaging the bulls.They have they won seven or the
last ten. They're playing top tenball. People are talking additioned by subtraction
with zach Lavine. Maybe get themout. Yeah, what do you guys
think the issue is right now forthe Lakers? If it is intensity coming
come down off of the adrenaline ofwinning the n season tournament, then shame

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on them. Shame on them.You still have a job to do.
This is the NBA. I understandyou were good, you were somewhat up
for the tournament. It's great,you played great, you won your extra
money. It's still time to workhere. Like you don't. You don't
have the ability for a comdown,especially in a Western conference like this,
for it to be as competitive asit's going to be a year, this
particular season, you can't afford togive games away, and they're giving games
away till you. As you mentioned, to teams like the Spurs, we

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had lost eighteen straight to a teamlike the New York Knicks, who albeit
over the last ten days, havebeen playing better too, but still or
not should not be on the Lakerslevel to go win to state whatever the
hell that place is called now andbeat the Lakers on their home floor.
So I don't disagree with you,Adam that I do think they're suffering from
a bit of an emotional come down. But it shouldn't be that should not

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be the case. I don't wantto come back down from this cloud.
Yeah, the Lakers are playing likeass and they're tenth right now in the
Western Conference, where I think theywere fourth around the time of the n
Season Tournament championship. Things are alsoso jumbled up to a certain degree to
when it comes to the Western Conference. So I don't necessarily put credence into
the standings at this very moment intime, but only as to say there

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are games, winnable games, especiallyconsidering this stretch that they have coming up
before the first of the year.Even with this tough stretch they have come,
they have another one against Minnesota,they have Oklahoma City on there,
they have Boston on Christmas Day.I mean, you can't fall too far
by end up losing some of thesegames that you can win before the first
of the year. Well, andnow, Anthony Davis last night came out
and said the OKC game is amust win tomorrow in Oka, see a

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tough place to play, necessarily gothat far. I also wouldn't say it
if you're facing a team that probablywill beat you. Correct, Yeah,
you should save the must win statementsfor the bulls of the world. You
know, games that you think youprobably should win. But I would say
the odds are stacked against them there. I think the Lakers have some roster
construction issues right now also where theydon't have enough two way guys. They

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have so many guys that have aflaw on one end of the court,
like D'Angelo Russell, who we knowis extremely flawed, and while his shooting
percentages look good so far this season, the Lakers coming and going depending on
how he plays that night, tome, is extremely troublesome. It should
not be that dependent on if D'AngeloRussell is going to have a good night

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for you. And last night hesaid something. He said the CHOI part
out loud, like I have neverheard a guy say before, and I
just want to I want you guysto analyze this. But maybe he was
too truthful, maybe it's refreshing,or maybe it was just flat out stupid
to say this, But he basicallysaid, yeah, I'm a one dimensional

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player, and if I'm not makingshots and I'm depending on me just getting
to stop, that's my that's whereI work. That's why I try to
be better. But that's not whatI do. So doing that as an
extra and that's where my focus is. But knowing what I do, that's

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something that I know as well.So I mean admitting the fact that it's
a weakness that he's working on.I don't have a problem with it.
I don't know if it's necessarily Imean, first of all, you're not
gonna hide it. They say thetape don't lie. We know you're a
terrible defensive player. And I'll admitwatching every game that he plays this year,
he's trying at times, similar toChristian would. He tries. He
just ain't that good defensively, andthat's his issue. That's the issue with

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D'Angelo Russell. Now could he bebetter? Of course he could, so
I don't personally have an issue withthat. And this is my first time
hearing it. I don't have aproblem with what he said. I do
like the way that he gave anice, little pregnant pause after That's not
what I do know. What Ido. That's perfect for clips. You
know what I do. It's likehe was about to go into Kevin DURANTMO,
do you know who the hell Iam? I am only a score
and that's it. I just Ifound it a little bit curious that he

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would point out the flaw in hisgame to that extent when you know he's
still trying to get that big payday. He didn't get it last season
the Lakers gave him that one inone contract. Again, regardless of what
he says or doesn't say, weknow what he is. So he could
come out and say, like,I'm Pat beav I got the best defensive
You don't, and we all knowthat you don't. We see you play,

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So for me, from the scalethat you gave, I give it
as refreshing. It's disappointing. Ilike him to play better defensively, but
you know what, I have myflaws. I admit to what those are,
and I need to play a certainway. If I ain't making my
shots, I have no value.He basically admitted that, which we all
know is true. So would youguys make a deal with Chicago for Zach
Levine or Damar DeRozan plus Alex Caruso, if you're the Lakers, try to

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get one of their scores, andthen Alex Caruso back, Well, who's
going out in that? It haveto be Ruy Hotch Moore is going to
be included. Anything would start withthose two, with the Angelo and RUI.
I don't know if I'm Chicago ifI would do that, especially when
it comes to Caruso. If I'mChicago, I'm doing it to get off
of the Levine money. Levine's contractfor sure. DeRozan's expiring anyway, so
you can probably get better value thanthat. Caruso is expiring after this season.

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Does he have an opt out?I'm not juzy. Is he expiring?
You guys are better at this thanI am. But I figure I
thought he had like at least anine year on it. I thought he
had an option. So he hasplayer but Adam will look it up here.
Yeah, yeah, But my intention, my understanding is that he would
be around beyond this year, isthat he's basically all the conversations I've heard
about him, with all the iterationsis okay, he's locked in at such
a cheap rate for one more year. That would be the value in having

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him, Okay, I was wrong. He's got a partial guarantee for next
season, so it's not an optout. So you would have them as
long as you want them on thatcontract, which day one would for not
nine ten million dollars, So yeah, you definitely. So. I think
the most valuable piece in that wouldbe Alex Caruso, and I wonder if
Chicago will be willing to give himup for Rui Hachimura, D'Angelo Russell wan
a pit and a protected pick intwenty thirty. I think it could make

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sense for both sides because the goalfor the Bulls would essentially be getting out
of the zach huge money earlier.Like, yeah, Rui and Russell aren't
great, but they're not long termcontracts really that are going to crush you.
And and either as an individual componentcould be packaged again in a lot
of iterations. Should you get thosemid teens to just blow twenty mail type

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contracts? See, I don't know. I don't if they do it to
get Levine's contract off, I don'tknow. If we're talking about DeRozan,
I don't think they do that.Not with DeRozan. In to me,
I'm thinking of just a package thatgoes to the Lakers, that's Levin and
Caruso. I think they try tofind the best way they got to get
off of Levigne's contract, however theycan. I would go the same way
I go with a lot of thingswhen you're blowing a team up, which

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is that they shou be separating deRosen and Levine as assets. Not that
Levine is even necessarily perceived as apositive asset, but Caruso is for sure.
So if they can get two separatethings, I would much rather go
to Portland route, where they youknow, got their return and then moved
other pieces and it's more of acumulative return as to what they can bring
in than to try to bundle allthat shit together. Because can they even

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do an iteration? That's Derozen's moneyand Levine's money in the same deal.
Scenes that's like sixty million dollars.That's a lot. Yeah, Zach Levine's
making forty million this year, fortythree next year, forty five the year
after that. Then he has aplayer option for forty eight. He's picking
that up when he's thirty one.Yeah, most likely. So I'm higher

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on Zach Levine than most people butwith all the injury concerns that have already
happened this season, and then hishistory with injuries, it is a red
flag. Yeah, and it's alsofit like you, we're talking about what
the Lakers are lacking. Yes,three point shooting he would help immensely,
But on ball defense he ain't gonnahelp you there durability that I mean Lebron

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and Ad he ain't helping you there. So am I gonna get if I
gonna if I gonna zap into thedepth that I have, even though it
has flawed depth For someone like that, that's a high risk move that I
wouldn't be willing to make considering themoney. If he was coming up,
if he was expiring, even ifhe had an additional guaranteed year just going
into next year, I'd probably thinkabout it more deeply than the four years
he has left. How do youguys feel, sorry, Bob, No,

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go ahead? How do you guysfeel about Darbn Ham as a head
coach? Because all I see isslander from Lakers fans. Hardcore Laker fans
say the rotations are wrong, He'snot playing ruie enough. He did get
run last night, but he isn'tthe right guy for a team with championship
expectations is the thing I keep hearing. Why are you trying out a rookie

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coach right now who doesn't seem tobe on top of his game on this
Lakers team with Lebron and Ad Yeah. I mean, look, I was
on record and say they never shouldhave fired Frank Vogel and he was just
collateral damage from the Russell Westbrook falloutand somebody had to get fired and it
was him. It's kind of inclusiveat this point. I think Darwin,
they have a lot of players,and dealing with the injuries they did early
in the season, guys who werenot expected to get run like Cam Reddish

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played so well. It kind offeels like, well, Cam earned his
spot in the rotation. Let's seeif he can play himself out of it.
I mean, Christian Wood is aguy that got on a low cost
contract thinking that he can do something, and he's been okay at times when
he's played, but certainly not sospectacular that I'd say he's earned minutes over
anybody else. I think Darwin Hammisstill still trying to figure out and this
is the first time all season longnow they gave Vinton his back that he

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literally has his full arsenal of ahealthy roster. I just got to give
him time to see what works.The problem is, as you mentioned,
they're having to figure it out withall these moving parts, with being in
the teeth of their schedule right now, with things being so tough there,
and obviously know Lebron last night againstMinnesota. I'm guessing because Anthony Davis said
it's a must win tomorrow, healready knew Lebron James would be playing against

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Oklahoma City. But still, it'sjust there are so many question marks of
who to play where, how manyminutes for each guy. Christian Wood played
well early in the season and thenthey had that nice plus minus with him
out there next to Anthony Davis.They've kind of gone away from that.
Now he's not getting as much run. There's a lot of uncertainty between different

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players on this roster and where theyfit. Yeah, I think it's always
That's a very tough thing with Lebronrosters a lot of times is that through
so many times throughout his career hegets these guys who are one way players
and then cobbling together. I mean, that's what ty Lu got so much
praise for. Will you bring upthe rookie coach thing? It's like the
biggest way to shine on a Lebronteam and avoid bullets if you're the coach

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is to manage the rotations well.Because basically everything else you could deflect as
saying, well, Lebron's gonna dictatethat. Lebron's gonna dictate that. It's
really the only way to set yourselfapart in terms of how the public's gonna
perceive you. Definitely, yeah,the flaw I'm noticing with them is and
they wanted to kind of go backto a certain degree to the twenty twenty
model when they won in the bubbleand they were bigger and now rebounding,

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they played defense. They are flawedon the perimeter, but they made up
for it because they would just dominateyou on the glass, and that's not
happening. And and typically in thegames they're losing, they're losing on the
on the glass and bry pretty significantmargins. Like what they should have done
or the recipe for success for themin the trade market is not even necessarily
someone on the perimeter is a bigthat can actually go inside get some rebounds,

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play some defense against the Yokic type, because that's where they're really losing
a lot of these games. Ifyou're not gonna be prolific on the offensive
end and you're gonna lean on defense, you got to get more rebounds so
you can get yourself more possessions tobe able to score more often. And
that's where the the biggest struggle isfor me with them. I remember we
talked about this on Rogan and Rodneyduring the offseason when all that talk was
about Christian Wood. It's like,well, guys, I don't know if

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he helps you as that defensive stoppertype. He's not Bismack Biambo. He's
not Javail McGee. He's not thistough guy that you can put next to
Anthony Davis center power forward position yourfront court. Sklar's gonna break his other
arm if you keep up that busaress. Yeah, he's pissed they didn't
get him. He knows about that. Or JaVale McGee, who got pennies

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on the dollar with Sacramento. Regardlessof how much he's playing, you know
what role he can play, he'dstill be They just needed a guy like
that. For ten to fifteen minutesa night, and Jackson Hayes isn't ready
for that role. He's still toothin all the time. Yeah no,
yeah, So they're a flawed rosterat this point, and maybe they'll make
a move. And one thing,I don't know if it would happen or
not. And you guys are thecap gurus when it comes to this and

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knows how the inner workings. I'dsee if Portland will be willing. I
don't know if the Lakers would doit because of the money. Will Portland
be willing to move off of DeAndreAyton and what they take D'Angelo Russell and
Rui Hachimura split up his thirty plusmillion dollar contract, send it to the
Lakers, because if you're Portland,you're just an asset collection at this point
in time. I don't have morewings. I'm just taking it from a

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from just tradable assets standpoint. Aguy making seventeen, a guy making fifteen
with the shorter deals than than DeAndreAyton has. DeAndre Ayton has shown back
when the Fuss Suns did make thefinals, he had one of the best
defensive ratings in the entire league.Being humble taking a back seat has not
been something that he's willing to do. But if he came to the Lakers,
playing next to Ad, he cangive you a little bit something offensively

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and he can play defensively well,I think it will be a good fit.
So if you're thinking from just aPortland standpoint, yes, roster wise,
fit wise, it doesn't make anysense. But if you're talking about
just splitting up assets and trying tofind a way to build a contender through
the trade market, you have moreassets that are spread out money wise to
be able to move with the Angeloand Ruie than you do with DeAndre Aid
and making thirty million dollars the nextthree years. Here's here's where I think

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maybe they would resist that is thatthose guys don't remain assets if they're buried.
And if you're in a situation wherethe backcourt's like six or eight prospects,
none of them have a true centerto play, it's duop Wreath is
their backup right now? Who Ilike? But at the same time,
if you've got a guy like Scootand Simon's and all these dudes, it's
like, how are you progressing themif you have nothing in the front court

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beyond Williams is already hurt. It'snot like they're rolling out a guy who's
like a career g leaguer who's beena revelation. But still it's like if
they move eight and I don't knowif those guys sustained value in a system
where you know, because if you'vegot DiAngelo there, you still have Brogden,
you have Simons, you have Scoot, guys with the same talent or

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the same sort of skill level,right and all competing for the same minute.
Because Sharp's still there too. It'slike, Okay, do those guys
even retain the value they have now? Because oftentimes I think of Russell and
Ruey and I'm like, well,those guys got paid even what they did
just because they're in this crucible that'sla and they had some playoffs, like
Ruy was good in the playoffs.Those type of guys maybe get more than

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they would on the open market otherwisethe Lakers artificial inflation contracts. I also
think that like Russell kind of,I mean, Russell felt he was going
to get a bigger contract than heactually did, and it was a mutually
beneficial contract for both of them.I don't hate that deal. I don't
need the short term deal. Youknow, the Lakers knew when they signed
him at that time, and Iguess he gave up some sort of bird
right waiver where he could have been, you know, blocked the trade or

(17:53):
something, and that's not in thecontract. So he knew when he signed
this deal, and the Lakers knew, we're signing you to this contract,
and you're going to be a movableasset if we deem if we see that
fit. So yeah, I thinkthat was a situation that way, where
the market was so thin for guyswho would give them that money that even
it's a short term deal, Iagree, Like I didn't. I didn't
hate it for either side, andquite quite honestly, even now, looking

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at what's happening with the Lakers,I still don't look back at that summer
negatively in any way, because Ithink the moves they made, most of
the guys they retained and the peoplethat they brought in I thought were either
a worth of gamble or be worththe dollars that they committed. Now,
obviously the results aren't panning out exactlyhow they'd like to, but I still
much prefer a Lakers instruction that whereit's depth and money spread out versus Okay,

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we're going to shift back into thisleven mindset where we go with a
big three and then if one ofthese guys loses, you've got it a
lot of your your depth, evenif it's underperforming right now to pull this
off. I mean that's that you'rekind of choosing what path you want to
go to again and that hasn't reapedrewards for them. So do you just
ride it out and hope that ifyou have to flip some of these rotation
guys because you don't have enough twoway players, that there's a better package

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that's maybe not the high profile names, right, Because I think that's the
thing that happened at the trade headlinethat last year was it finally felt like,
Okay, you made a move toget volume, but guys that made
sense in theory, right, whichis so piece is the fit? Yeah,
And it doesn't feel like with Lebronteams a lot of times that's a
battle in and of itself to getthem to make those kind of moves.

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There's so many all in moves orgetting a guy who is a bigger name,
but he's on the back end ofhis career that have happened over the
course of his tenure that it's like, all right, Lakers, you got
to be real pragmatic about what youdo if you're going to shake up this
roster for the sake of trying tocash in on this window here. And
we may be overreacting just a tadbecause it's really only been a week and

(19:41):
a halfship of bad basketball. Butbefore that, I think they had one
to twelve of sixteen, including thend season tournament play. But if Sklar's
going to skip this podcast, wemight as well talk about them as if
it's all guy's all over, thesky's falling. We'll get to Moron scar
In a little bit and why he'sduck in smoke today. But before we
check out on the Lakers, Ijust want to say I would give them
a little bit more time and closerto the deadline before making any definitive statements.

(20:03):
They still have movable pieces. Theystill can make a big upgrade and
things can come together and there canbe more clarity on this roster just by
sending out two for one or somethinglike that. But can we talk about
the team that is perfectly constructed inLos Angeles Bruins, Yeah, not them
lost to cal State Northwards. Jesusthe Clippers, baby, my Clippers,

(20:27):
and how well they have played andall the haters and Lakers fans after the
first five games with James Harden hittingme up, how you look at James
horn experience, Well, I'm likingit pretty well. Now it's been a
good week for Adam. Yeah,well we've been a good three weeks on
this show. We said they werefigure out eventually. Now, Adam had
some concern early on because tylu waskind of saying one thing and doing another

(20:48):
with the Westbrooks starting next to Harden. Thought they'd eventually figure it out.
I still say he just kind offelt like he had to show Russell Westbrook
that it wasn't working before just tellinghim, Hey man, I'm gonna sit
you down right. So I wasjust like, I gotta show you.
Putting you on the floor with theseother guys ain't working. He's done that
in the past, Yeah, wherehe has to let something fail to prove
to players to make sure the lockerrooms still tight, that this doesn't work.

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Here's the data, Here's what it'slooked like. Over the past couple
of weeks. So this is whywe're making this change. So if I
got to sacrifice five games in November, so be it, because look at
what they're doing now. It's workingflawlessing and Russell Westbrook is talking great team
game, played great defense the othernight, taking six seven shots, and
it's cool with it. Yeah,I mean, this is a completely different
guy. It's great to see thebuy in from these guys right now.

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And it helps because they have arelationship. Russell I wanted James Harden.
It goes back to okay See daysthen in Houston they like each other.
If that wasn't already there, therecould be more feathers being ruffled or rocking
the boat a little bit with theClippers. But I just love the fact
that Okay, I know they lostlast night to Oka. See didn't have
Kawhi Leonard. It was game threeof three and four nights on the road

(21:53):
against top quality competition. All theteams they played were above five hundred.
Okay See had three days off.I'm not worried or that concern about the
loss last night after winning nine straightand they've still won fourteen of eighteen and
They've beaten really good teams along theway. They finally slayed the Dragon Press
Dallas lost, and that Dallas.That Dallas Dallas victory where they had the

(22:15):
big lead and they blew it andwere able to come back and be resilient
and win really convincingly in the lastcouple of minutes. Showed me something.
I'm with you on that. Certainthey got their asses kicked up there.
Not too long ago too, Yeah, in one of James Harden's first games,
and Kyrie Irving was the guy whocame out afterwards and was like,
guys, it's gonna take time,just like it did with me, and
Lucas like, hey, Kyrie soundedreasonable here, and now he looks right

(22:36):
about this. I've been such ana hole in my NBA reports. I
was talking about this with Bob earlier, but I've been calling out steven A
Smith. I said, like amonth ago, this is what the media
was saying about the Clippers, andStevene goes, how the hell is this
gonna work with James hard And nowtoday they're saying this, and steven A
goes, they are the threat tothe Denver Nuggets in the Western Conference.

(22:56):
Maybe I'll put that at the veryedge of the show. I wasn't aware
of that, but I'm also notsurprised the switch up the flip. Yeah,
does that worry you if it swingsback too far the other way?
Do you prefer the anonymity of thiswinning streak or you would you rather?
Guys start pointing this out on anational level. A lot of Clippers fans
like when they're flying under the radar. They feel like the team performs better

(23:18):
there. But the truth is,if you're going to win a championship at
some point, yeah, you're gonnalook like a favorite if you're gonna play
this well. Teams are the media, the national story is going to be
your great and you got to liveup to these expectations. So that just
comes with the territory. Get usedto it. I don't think the team
really cares either way. I mean, it's not like Kawhi Leonard is on

(23:41):
social media or anything like that.Paul George certainly is with podcast p and
everything, but overall, this teamjust has so much more talent now.
And when they have games where PaulGeorge missed two games so far this season,
they won both of them because JamesHarden steps up last night they weren't
able to overcome not having Kawhi Leonard, but tired legs and all that,

(24:02):
and Paul George coming back from theflu. I just like what I'm seeing
offensively and defensively, this flew underthe radar. The Clippers actually were better
defensively to start things off with JamesHarden than they were offensively, so you
kind of knew. Hey, thedefense is already there, and James has
been playing hard on that end.It is wild to see. I know,

(24:22):
his post defense has always been good, and he's got quick hands and
he gets steals, but he's beenmuch better even on the perimeter, staying
in front of guys. Overall.You'll find some bad clips out there still,
but the effort has been there.I think there's something to be said
for you know, you're playing witha group of guys like Paul George and
Kawhi Leonard and Terrence Man who takepride zubots and playing on the defensive end,
and you don't want to be theguy seen as not picking up his

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slack. Yeah, and he's alsointo contract gear, still wants to get
paid again. I think there's atonzen different factors that Harden is playing as
well as he's playing, you know, but the defense was there. You
knew the offense would come along onceRussell Westbrook wasn't next to him in the
starting lineup and Terrence Man was base. Since then, that's starting five with
Man, Harden two to one,three and Zubots. They're shooting like fifty

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three percent from the field, fortytwo percent from three. Offense is ridiculous.
Yeah, they're they're lighting teams up. They put up one forty four,
they put up one fifty one,and the defense has remained intact.
They're basically top five offense and defenseover the last eighteen games with the new
starting lineup. So it started withRuss coming off the bench and buying in.
Then Kawhi Leonard gets comfortable and getson this ridiculous heater guys last eleven

(25:30):
games sixty two percent from the field, fifty two percent from the outside.
When everybody was saying, you know, Kawhi could be washed, he doesn't
look the same. They weren't onlysaying that about James Harden. Was that
a narrative going around the season.Oh yeah, they were saying because Kawhi
was going through this adjustment period.Also at first with James Harden, where
she was being more passive, hewasn't taking that many shots, he wasn't

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being that efficient, and then allof a sudden he looks like the best
player in the world again. Andreally, this is the best he has
looked since tearing the ACL. Asgood as he was for three months last
season where he put up fifty threeforty seven ninety splits for three straight months,
he looks even better now. Movementwise. If you watch the end
of that game Kevin against Dallas Kawhijust took over the spin, move on

(26:12):
Grant Williams into the eurostep, theblowby on Derreck Jones Junior for the left
handed dunk, like the quickness,the burst. He's two years off the
ACL now, so it kind ofmakes sense. Guys like that, Yeah,
I did. Do you want topush back? No, I don't
want to push nothing to push backcompany man, right here in truth,

(26:32):
that's not company man. I meanexactly what you've been waiting for, you
know, to finally to finally beputting it together on a consistent basis and
playing that incredible. There's nothing todetract from him. I would love to
come back and play tomorrow. Now. Well, it's like I was going
to say, I'm happy that theyhave for the most part, stayed healthy.
Was last night the first game thatKawhi's missed this year, played twenty
seven straight. That was the firsttime since I'm guessing twenty sixteen, twenty

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seventeen with the San Antonio Spurs beforeZaza undercut him that he played that many
games teams to row in the regularseason. It's always been it's been a
snowball of injuries since the Zaza playin Game one against the Golden State Warriors.
And I love the piece that Omefrom ESPN did with him talking to
him about his injuries and the perceptionabout him sitting out and you know,
low managing and how it was hisfall. Then it was like it wasn't
on me. Did he say?I think he said he wanted to sue

(27:18):
the media for malpractice or something likethat, you know, for basically saying,
like, you know, you guysare making up this narrative that I'm
sitting out games because I'm not injured, and it's like I'm managing all these
major injuries. From twenty seventeen throughthe last year, how many knees,
acls, MCLs, you name it. That he's had major injuries, he's
going through. He's not sitting downbecause he has hangnails. Yea. And
most of the time it wasn't evenhim, it was the teams that were

(27:40):
sitting them down. It was team. It was a team doctor versus his
doctor situation in San Antonio. He'snot just saying I don't feel like playing
tonight because it's the second nine ofa back to back. And I think
that's part of the narrative that getthat gets carried on and even with that
article probably still will never be dispelled. Now that's the unfortunate part. You
know what, I haven't read thatarticle yet yesterday or two days ago.
Om and I always Butcher his lastname, So forgetting me, Yes,

(28:03):
him did a great piece and hetalked to Kawhi Leonard. It was very
good. I gotta check that out. But yeah, two great points there.
One, he's been legitimately injured.Two he's not the one making the
call on playing anyways. There havebeen multiple times apparently he wanted to come
back and play on the tornet meniscuslast year style running down the sideline wrapping
his leg, but hopefully the hipinjury. He's okay and it's just sorees.

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You know. It always gets mewith that though this isn't about Kawhi.
It's gonna sound like it is.It's not that idea that it's like,
well, I want to come back, but they wouldn't let me.
Who's fucking stopping you? If youjust walk out? If you suit up
and you go out to the court, do you think they really want that
smoke? Do you think the team'sreally gonna like dig in? Like part
of me is like, now thatthere's this story out there, and I'm
not saying it's false, it's completelyvalid that. I'm sure there are times

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where the team's big foot, butnow every single player can play that card
of like, no, I wouldhave played eighty two games. It's guys,
they're right, it's the team that'salways shutting them down. I think
there's somewhere in between for that notnecess the same times with certain players.
I can see that. Sure,well, I just think I think the
players have so much individual power.Whenever I hear that narrative, I'm like,
are you telling me Joe el embiidthat you couldn't just be like,

(29:10):
fuck you, I'm playing, Likewho's who's stopping I think in the regular
season teams would try to stop it. I think in the playoffs you have
a hard time stopping it. Butif the guy is a tormentniscus also no,
I agree. And again this wasn'tabout just specifically. It's just this
notion that the players act like they'repowerless when they're all too comfortable exercising their
power in every other way. Imagineright, The only way that would happen

(29:34):
is if there's a team doctor,and at that point in time I think
there was. That's a negotiated withthe Players Association. If a doctor says
you are not able to play,he cannot play, yeah, because the
coach can just say d n Ptonight he's not on the roster, he's
not able to perform out there,that would be yeah. So there are
ways around it. So that's thatgoes above the players hands, the team's
head. That that's a something that'sbeen collectively bargaining between the union. If

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I really wanted to play though,as a player, I would go public
because god like, if the fanswere on your side and they all saw
wait kawhy is ready to play inthis pivotal playoff game, but it's the
team that won't. Let nobody lost. That smoked right from a PR standpoint,
be terrible, no doubt. Yeahall right, Uh, can we
hear from a voicemail? You knowwhat, Maybe we need to hear the

(30:19):
T and T clip first, actuallyset this up voicemail. There was some
news earlier this week on TNT speakingof dumbass talking heads. I'm a dumb
ass and I love these guys andit's an entertaining as hell show. Just
don't listen to them for basketball analysis. Everything else amazing. Just because they're
basketball analysts doesn't mean they know everything. Just because they were former players doesn't

(30:41):
mean they know everything. Otherwise theywouldn't be arguing with themselves all the time.
They'd be on the same page.If all former players had this secret
knowledge of what's really going on,why are they also bickering and arguing with
one another? But this came upafter the Steph Curry ridiculous, just like
the catch release to beat the bossonCeltics in the regular season, this time

(31:02):
big victory for the Golden State Warriorsthe other night. But that three pointer
from thirty feet out was huge,and Shaq ended up post game arguing that
he's throwing it out there that heshould be in the conversation for the goat,
and Kenny Smith was there Ernie Johnson, listen to this. But what
I'm saying because of what he's doneas the best player ever, No,
yeah, not as the best playerever. He can do it all the

(31:25):
same. He's the best position.He might be best in his position.
Man, he can do it all. Listen. His his title is a
little far. He's the best shootever by far. But what I'm saying,
because of what he's done and howlong he's done it, do we
put him in that conversation? Makesyou look at Jordan said, Kobe five,
he right there, lebron for him, I'm a barber shop talker because

(31:45):
I can't. Yeah, I'm abig I'm gonna put myself in a barber
shop that we know about. Heis one of the best at his position
ever, without question. So doesn'tput him in the conversation. You're saying,
Okay, so you wouldn't say,well, let's put the let's put
the best shooter of all time inthe conversation. I know he's not the
best shooter of all time. He'sone of the best point guds of it

(32:06):
just the best shooter. He's notjust the best shoot I know. But
but you might say that if you'regoing to say, here's our pool of
best player ever ever. No,that is that put that pool ain deep.
That pool is not. He wouldn'tinclude the best there's only there's only
like three, wouldn't include the bestshooter of all time in that conversation.
I wouldn't bet we include the bestrebound of all time. And I went

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a statistical category. First of all, come on, point, Kenny says
he's not the best shooter. Ithink he meant to say that. I
don't think he meant to say that. He meant to say he's not only
only the best shooter. Correct kindof corrected himself. I just wanted to
make sure we didn't get that lostin there. But I'll say this,
at the very end, he says, I'm not putting in the best rebounder
as the greatest player ever. Tome, I said after they won in

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twenty twenty two over the Boston Celtics. No, Kevin Durant, Steph Curry
averaged thirty four in that series againsta Boston defense that was doing his historic
things before they ran into him.Remember the narrative, Oh, they got
the most perfect modern day switchable defense. You look at all the analytics and
the numbers, and they were elite. Also considered that Steph Curry's finals numbers

(33:12):
had not been great up until thatpoint either. They had been been good.
Yeah, they hadn't been like MVdominant. First year brought him,
brought the shine off. But hedid it. He did it. Always
been good, no doubt. Butthat's that was the thing. But I
thought then you could put Steph Currytop five all time because to what Kenny
is saying there, you can't putthe greatest rebounders somebody who's just great and

(33:35):
one statistical category as being the goatunless you are the greatest shooter in a
game that involves putting a ball ina hoop. Not all skills are created
equal, Kenny. It's not thesame thing as the greatest rebounder. DeAndre
or uh yeah, Andre Drummond hasled the league in rebounding multiple times.
How impactful is that for his teamin Detroit? It wasn't. I mean

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and I don't know. Into thelast twenty years or so, wasn't Bill
Russell considered by some people to betop five, top six of all time?
And he was generally thought of asjust a great defender and great rebounder.
And I would greatly disagree with thata guy who she's forty four percent
for his career, he's the greatestwinner, you can say. He also
had seven All Stars on his team. I mean, see, what I'm
saying is making you a spect Justbecause you might excel at one particular area

(34:22):
and not in others doesn't exclude youfrom being in the conversation with the greatest
player in a particular sport. Iwould say, what excludes me, Well,
that that's that's it for me,a two way part. Like that's
why I wouldn't put him in theconversation for the greatest player, because most
of the other people that are inthat conversation were either dominant both ways or
at least above average in one ofthe two directions, like I think you

(34:43):
could take. For me, it'sstill probably be the conventional three that are
always listed amongst the greatest players ofall time. But I think that's it,
which is what Kenny Smith eventually,which is what I say about I
think steps should be in the conversation. I would not put him there.
I wouldn't put him tier below simplybecause, I mean, just look at
those finals matchups. People always tryto get him isolated on the defensive end,

(35:06):
and for everything, he might bethe most dominant offensive player of all
time, the most impactful offensive playerbecause of just how much his gravity changes
everything around him, points per possession, but just the fact that on the
defensive end, so much of teamsgame plans in those finals that they lost
were based on we'll just get himon to Steph. Well, we'll make
it up on that side. AndI don't think that happens with guys like

(35:28):
Jordan and Lebronery or Kareem. Ijust think that's a little bit overblown.
I think Steph Curry is a muchbetter defender than people give him credit for.
His issue is he's small, soyou try to find those guys.
But it's not that he has baddefensive principles or a bad effort on that
end. It's only because he's undersized. I think. Yeah, I mean,
Chris Paul is small and all thedefensive mextrics on his side are better

(35:51):
than steps have been throughout his career. That's fair. He's one of the
best at his position ever. Butdefensive, yeah, but it compared to
the guys who he's being paralleled against. My thing, Like, I think
there's some over overstated criticism on ageneral level of Steph's defense, But if
you put Steph's defense against the guyswith we're talking about in this pantheon,

(36:12):
I would say that he's a baddefender by comparison. But I'm just saying
his offense, because of the threepoint shooting at a high volume, is
so much higher in some ways thanthese guys that it evens out that I'm
okay with putting him top five.I would not have him number one,
but I don't hate someone bringing itup like Shaq did. We're saying,
shouldn't we at least be talking aboutit discussion. I agree with everything you

(36:36):
said there, except the one thingthat I think where the distinction's made is
even if he's top five of alltime, do you not see like a
dramatic is it not? Like?Okay, Well there's one, two and
three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine, like you
could be top five but still notbe in that conversation for the greatest of
all time because of just the sheergap between one and two and three and

(36:57):
everybody else. Fair. Yeah,I'm okay with too. I just that
top five discussion hasn't even been happening. People have said top ten. I
thought, after twenty twenty two,if you're the best shooter ever, you
can do that to that Boston defense. The impact that he makes because of
what he can do on offense farout weighs whatever deficiencies he has on the
defensive end, and it's still bestoffense beats best defense every time. That's

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what we saw in that NBA finals. The defense has to react to your
offense. To act like defense isworth just as much as offense, especially
in today's game, just isn't true. It's not. It's not the same.
It's a two way game, yes, but not all skills are created
equal, and being better on theoffensive end is more important. I don't

(37:42):
disagree with that. I think basicallywhat you're arguing is that the fact that
he's such an outlier on the offensiveend makes up for whatever whatever diminishing level
of defense you get. And Idon't disagree with that do you guys have
him in front of Kobe? Ido personally. I mean, this be
a much more entertaining conversation if Sklarwas here, Well, it just so

(38:04):
happens. I at least have tothink about it. I would probably and
Sclar is not gonna like this puthim over. Kobe hurt himself. To
be honest with you, if youtook his first couple of years, when
he was as efficient as all getout for the most part, from a
guard a guard standpoint, and wasdominant defensively, the problem is after like
year five or six, he justbecame a giant chuck artist and was,
you know, shooting forty two fortythree percent from the field, and I

(38:27):
end up hurting him. I don'tthink he I mean, I'm sure people
can make the argument the opposite way, but to me too, I just
don't feel like, even as evenin his elite years offensively, that he
has the type of positive impact onthe guys around him that Steph does.
Through the way that he plays.There's just such a shift of the entire
defense to him that it's like,yeah, Kobe put up shots against two
or three guys, but a lotof times they were bad shots, you

(38:51):
know, most of the time theywere. Yeah, that's part of my
point with Steph when you say,okay, if his SHOT's not following,
what else does he bring? Firstof all, he's an elite passer.
He also is one of the mostunderrated guys with float game and getting to
the basket in NBA history. Butthe impact he has on the rest of
the team, even if he's missingshots, the defense does not care.
They are still going to guard StephCurry, which opens things up for everyone

(39:15):
else. And I agree with youthere, But again we're talking about him
being paralleled against guys like Lebron orMichael Jordan. And you can't make those
criticisms of Lebron either, for certainlyat least him, you can't say that,
okay, even when his shots off, that he doesn't impact everybody else
on the court around him. He'sgoing to shoot for the first seven eight
years of his career. I mean, he dragged a team he couldn't shoot
in that sweep against the Spurs,and yet he somehow managed to drag that

(39:37):
shit cast to the finals. Somy issue is not insane that Steph is
one of the most impressive talents ofall time, and offensively, he's above
a lot of guys who I mightput in the same conversation in terms of
where in the top ten they sit. It's just really a matter of he's
being compared against some of the absolutegreatest of all time, and it's just
a relative bar. It's a tearblethose top three of the most obvious threes

(40:01):
and the most obvious top three.I would argue for Kobe in this way,
his inefficiency to me is a littlebit overblown because if you look at
truth shooting, because he took somany three pointers, so your field goal
percentage is going to go down.But he's not, as far as people
think, behind Jordan when it comesto point per shot attempt because he took

(40:22):
a lot more three pointers. Istill though, would put Steph ahead of
him, just because Kobe at timesamplified the bad parts of Michael Jordan and
what he meant to the game andbeing an individual and not elevating guys around
him at times, and Steph justdoesn't have those flaws. He doesn't He's
always going to be a positive outthere for his teammates, and Kobe wasn't

(40:46):
at times. In fact, someof the best moments in Kobe's career was
when less was more, when hewas taking less shots. That typically is
how they won in the playoffs.I agree, there's no way to argue
against it, okay, but thereis one guy who might feel a little
bit differently. We do have well, not Eric Scalarin's studio. He did
call in. I requested him tocall in and chime in on this conversation

(41:08):
because we're getting into it on Twitterand in the hallways here at Ay have
five to seventy screaming at each other. Let's see what Eric says about the
Steph Curry go conversation. Well,what's up, guys, it's the Ducas
Sports. Adam told me to leavea message about Steph Curry and Kobe,
But honestly, it doesn't really matterwhat Adam is going to say after this
voicemail. Players, I'm not goingto be together that Steph Curry is a

(41:30):
better basketball player than Kobe Bryant.That doesn't mean Steph Curry isn't one of
the greatest basketball players of all time. He's obviously the greatest shooter of all
time. This is not a slighton Steph Curry. It's just the I
test. I don't care what analyticssay or any of that's any of that
better or not. It's eye test. To me, Kobe Bryant is a

(41:51):
better basketball player than Steph Curry.That's just how it will always be.
Piece. Yeah, eye test iswhat people say when they're just isn't a
strong case to support it with theother things. Like eye test to me
is like we might as well justdeleted that voicemail the moment he left us.
Ear test. Yeah, yeah,objectively, the numbers favor Steph and

(42:14):
they're going to yep. And yes, he has four rings to Kobe having
five. Kobe had three with Shaq. Now Steph Curry, you can make
this argument two of those. Heonly has one Finals MVP the last one.
I think he should have won FinalsMVP in twenty fifteen. It shouldn't
have been andre Igodala. That's kindof insane to me. They have no

(42:34):
shot in that series without Steph.Fucking kidding me. Right now here we
go, you have mister Lebron overhere exactly exactly. Stuff didn't even play
that good in that series. Lebronled every fucking statistical category for his entire
team. I'd be okay, withLebron getting it before andre Idala got sure,
Sure, if you're gonna I getyou're saying, you're saying, if

(42:57):
you have to give it to someone, Okay, I'm coming. He's put
the gut away because because the thoughtwould be Igwin Dollas supposedly got MVP for
locking up Lebron. Well, howmuch did he really lock him up?
If he's averaging a triple something fromthe field or something, that's the greater
point. Well, he didn't shootwell against Andrea Gadala in that series,

(43:19):
and they thought that was the differencebecause he they were everyone in that series,
look it up, the individual letit up shooting like but they were
up to one. They put Andreaga doll into the starting lineup to guard
Lebron. And that's where people say, oh, this is when the series
flipped back in favor of the GoldenState Warriors. That was the justification for
it. I'm just saying what happenedin reality is Steph was woefully bad in

(43:42):
the first two games and everyone's like, Matthew Della Vodova is a Steph Curry
stopper. And then Steph figured out, Okay, this ship's not going to
continue and he started to shake outof the funk a little bit. That's
that's the reality of what happened thatand the fact that they, you know,
into that series, they lost Kyrieand then Kevin Love and it's like,
you can't sustain that, but youjust simply can't sustain that. The
fact that they even took that totwo wins in a six game series is

(44:06):
impressive in and oh yeah, yeah, they had no business being in that
series. That was all Lebron.But my point is if three different times
two for sure we're correct Kevin Durantwins MVP over him and is the better
player on his team. That's ablemish on Steph's goat argument obviously, sure,
But I mean, isn't that thesame argument for the Shaq Kobe That's

(44:30):
why I brought it up. Yeah, And to me personally, there's a
bigger chasm in my mind between Shaqand Kobe in those series than Katie and
Steph. And maybe that's debatable.And shack Shick's numbers in the finals were
just stupid in comparison. He's becomecriminally underrated and he said Steph is better
than me in this conversation too.He was putting Steph ahead of him,

(44:53):
but in the same way that I'llsay, Hey, if you're the best
shooter in the game of basketball,that probably should put you tip five.
If you're being called the most dominantever, that probably should put you top
five in the conversation. And yetShack never really gets brought up because,
oh, he calls himself the mostdominant ever. Kobe called him that,
but he also doesn't call himself Hecalled himself the most dominant ever while simultaneously

(45:17):
stating that he was the third bestcenter ever. Right, So it doesn't
make sense to me. He saidthis. Where he said this, he
was It was on his podcast withthat dude Adam from I forget his last
name on He's on NBA TV sidelinereporter guy. He hosts the Tuesday night
games. Oh yeah, Adam Richmond. No, I'm thinking of man versus
food. He kind of looks likethat guy. But he was responding to

(45:37):
the fact that Chris Russo said thathe was the fifth best center, and
he he puts I think well,he said it was Kareem Wilt, Moses
Malone and Hakeem all over him.He didn't even bring up Bill Russell,
and he obviously got a lot ofpushback from Steven A and Jay Williams.

(45:58):
But something to talk about morning,So that's why they put that in there.
Yeah. So in any case,like, I think the problem with
Shaq is, while I kind ofadmire the fact that he's like, not
out there just I'm the best andthis and all these things that you say,
I was number one center of themost dominant center, there's a part
of me that respects the fact thathe's like, no, I respect these
other guys more I would put myselfbelow him. But I also think it

(46:21):
serves to undercut his own case ona general level, because think about all
the times when people like last Imean, I'll bring this into the calves,
when Jared Allen's like, oh theyou know, the lights were too
bright, and then that will holdon for the rest of time you acknowledge,
you show any humility or self awarenessor at your own expense reputationally,
and people will seize on that forall the people in the future generations who

(46:45):
never saw Shack play will be like, well, he said himself though,
like because how much do you hearit? With the Jordan comments where it's
like, oh, this guy's theylose to the Celtics, they get swept
out, and this guy's the greatest, you know, the greatest thing ever
type of thing where it's like thatwas God out there. Sometimes you're respecting
other people, shouldn't be viewed asa detriment to your own legacy, But

(47:05):
if it's coming out of your ownmouth, people will eventually weaponize it against
you. I think Shaq hurts himselfbecause he's just such a caricature with all
the ads, the movies and howhe acts on TNT that people sometimes forget,
same with Barkley, just how greatthey were as players, right,
agree, they're so. I thinkit's maybe even more extreme with Barkley,
Yeah, definitely, because he didn'twin a championship which everybody holds over his

(47:29):
head. Yeah, and we're somuch further removed too, like Shack was
at least more recent for some ofthis age group. That's that's view in
the NBA. Now, there's alot probably than never even saw Barkley play.
No, and Barkley was the originalfreaking Zion out there, absolutely,
and really Zion can't get to thatlevel. He doesn't play more and maybe
lose a few pounds. Barkley looksspelt, he looked thin, he looked

(47:52):
like freaking uh bowl compared to comparedto Zion Shack say that bowl. Bull
was just as good as Uh Wimby. He said the bowl. He didn't
say it as good as Wemby.He he compared the two and people pushed
back because I know the exact quote, so I don't if his point was.
You know, his point was that, Okay, these are like extremely

(48:14):
tall, skinny guys who tend tooperate around the perimeter. Fine, but
like they pushed back, and hedug into this point where it made it
seem like he was comparing their actualskill level. And that's where Sho Shaq
lost a lot of people because Ithink his pride gott in the way on
that when people were like, you'rea fucking idiot and it just got muddy
and Wemby's blocking five shots were noteven jumping off of the ground. He
did, by the way, stickup for Kobe Uh in that conversation about

(48:37):
Steph when Kenny Smith was like thatpool ain't that deep. There's three guys,
and then Shaq was like, ohreally, what about Kobe being Bryant,
and then Kenny was like, yeah, he's in there. But then
there's a but then there's a widechasm between the next. As an old
school Laker fan, I think it'sactually really cool that he's sticking up for
Kobe, that they were able tomin fences before Kobe's tragic passing and sweet

(48:59):
and I think the same shit Isaid earlier about the defense, like you
could apply that argument to the Kobestaph thing. I mean, there are
some people now the problem with Kobeis they'd say, after like year six,
he was mostly just based off areputation. I think a lot of
Jordan's defensive player of the years lateron the nineties were the same thing,
Like I can pull tape on awfuldefense. Kobe next to Shack really dug

(49:20):
in defensively when he had to bethe number one score understandably, but he
wasn't nearly the two way guy thathe was. I agree, I don't
disagree with anything. I'm just sayingthat too. If we had to ask
Clara to do something other than saymy feelings say this, I'm sure that's
what he would go to. Itis my point, feelings. We had
a couple of more voicemails to getto. Maybe Eric's one of them.
I don't know. Oh, let'ssee this one came in on Monday.

(49:40):
It's pretty long. You might getcut off. This is big lout.
I will try to be brief ninetyseconds, as you stipulated, I'm a
Paul's you know what this is ninetyseconds, which is what I said,
So you know what, We'll playall of it. I was actually out
of town two words global entry forBree and I'm just catching up on the

(50:00):
podcast. So I want to weighin on the is it the biggest A
hole or the A hole a weekor whatever you guys are calling this.
We need T shirts by the wayfor it. I think you both are
kind of kind of the A holesin this. But I've been on both
sides of this situation, and Ithink as if my mama would have raised

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me, I would have been abetter host. Now, I don't know.
I understand that Adam is a isa movie buff or whatever. It's
openings and all that, so Iget that part. You kind of just
want that, you don't want tomiss it, But then again, is
there any way you could have notwatched it or watched it later or a

(50:43):
DVR because I have a DVR becauseI don't like alla watching stuff right away.
But as my mama would have taughtme to be a better host,
I think so. I think you, Adam are the bigger a hole in
this situation. And Breed may havebeen almost being scared of scary movies make
sure a hole. But it doeskind of make you wonder what your middle

(51:06):
mindset. But in any case,I think Adam's seventy a whole breath thirty
percent in this situation. Be abetter host. Fix it. Yeah,
now, one thing, thank you, Louke. Fix it. I like
it because one thing that Bree didsay in this whole situation, and I
don't know, Bob, if you'recaught up on this whole thing. Bree
was going to be crashing on Adam'scouch because it's closer to her job,

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and Adam said, yeah, youcan stay here, and he told her
this like two weeks in advance orsomething. So she shows up that night.
It's like a premiere of some scarymovie that Adam wants to watch,
which I did tell her was comingthat day, and he wants to watch
it on the big TV in hisliving room, which is where she's going
to be sleeping. She has anice scary movie, so she wants to
lay on the couch and go tosleep, and she said the movie is
scary. Now, she did admitthat she could have very well turned away.
It wasn't super loud. She couldhave slept if she wanted to,

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but she was so enthralled she hadto roll over and watch it. And
then she got scared and that Adamwas like, I'm not turning the movie
off. I want to watch iton my giant TV. So there was
this giant spat between the two ofthem. And I would like to point
out my parents raised me right.If I'm a bad host, that's just
on me, no reflection of myfamily. Well, so what I ended
up saying is I guess I hadto end up being judge Judy an executioner,

(52:12):
was that there are both a holes. It's like Adam knowing that you
have to be the host on thatparticular night, you know, maybe you
hold off one another day or somethinglike that, or maybe you turn the
TV down low, or maybe youwatch them the laptop in the other room.
I don't know, Brie, youknew you were going over there.
He did tell you earlier than thathe was going to be watching it.
And if it really wasn't disturbing youthat much from a volume standpoint, and
you easily could have rolled over andnot paid attention and gone to sleep,

(52:35):
it really wasn't that big of adeal. So I kind of said,
both of you guys are kind ofa holes in this. Not the last
three cars. I think we've hadtwo or three calls come on and say
strictly Adam's vehicle. It's two weeksago. If you want to listen to
this segment of Who's the a hole? Does nobody care that you opened up
your home to a friend to helpher on her commute toy. I did
bring that you. I did bringthat up. Thank you, Bob.
That's what I'm saying. I mean, there's a lot of stuff could happen

(52:58):
in that apartment while she's guest thatI would overlook, just due to the
fact that Adam opened up his doorsand said, you know what, I
want to make your day easier.You can sleep here to get where you
need to go. I mean,she was just using me for my couch,
and I obliged yeah, exactly,I can't watch my nice it's sort
of television. Yeah, it's likeyou go to a home, somebody cooks
you a meal, and you sendit back to the kitchen. That doesn't

(53:21):
happen. What does suck with thisis any of my friends who have listened
to that podcast are like, oh, yeah, Adam's definitely an a hole
in this way, Like this issomething at my core that's a major character
flaw. Maybe you're just trying tohelp her expand her horizons too, Like
who wants to go through life withthis crippling weakness of being terrified by a
movie because she's gonna be people.Yeah exactly, it's pumping the fuck up.

(53:45):
Makes her seem fragile, and she'snot a fragile person. I'm just
trying to expand smoking in the bigLapowski very fragile. I mean, there
are some people who just don't wantscary movies. That's not that big of
a deal for me personally, LikeI'll watch them, but it's not necessarily
my favorite genre to me. AllRight, all right, last call what

(54:07):
up guys? I f awesome newslast week and I want I wanted to
do it last week, but Iforgot and probably got lazy as well.
But congrats Kevin. You're gonna bea father. That's awesome for you.
Man, that's great. Now you'regonna have two kids. You're gonna have
Adam and then your newborn. Youwant to give congrats to Kevin. Figures

(54:29):
gonna be a dad. That's awesome. Great Lakers loss to the Nicks.
That was awesome. It was awesomejoking with Adam with the bicest sports who
did not take it well, buthey, it's just a December game.
It's just a December game. Buthe got really mad about it. Is
this Andre? That is and Andretwo thousand ways they hate on FNA,

(54:51):
also three thousand ways to troll.He is my troll protection. I paid
him twenty bucks and if anyone comeswith me on Twitter, I just add
him to take care of it andgo back after And mostly it's been regarding
Eric Sclar and we've been tormenting hisass for weeks now. But what's funny
is after the game, Audre goes, hey, you guys will always be
the first team to win the ndseason Tournament championship, and my Knicks will

(55:14):
always be the first team to beatyou. On Banner Night from that in
season tournament win. It was prettygood, actually bad. It's something to
hang your your head on as aKnicks fan. There, that's how bleak
it's been for the last but thirtyyears or whatever it's been. Congratulations once
again, Thank you, appreciate youguys. Is that why it was a

(55:37):
blue heart? That's why I wasa blue I know? Is the boy?
Oh? This is awesome. Thisis so cool. Also because my
wife is a big Dodger fan,and quite honestly, my Angel fandom is
fading into the background as the daysmove ahead, so I might be two
here pretty soon. So that debate, the great fight that we had initially
about the Angels versus Dodgers. I'mlosing. I'm getting knocked out in the

(55:58):
first round, so like all thePaul brothers are kicking my ass right now
in the ring. Yeah, apercentage chance of Adam as like a middle
name or something. I mean asI'm also your child, So that's right,
exactly who's your daddy? Yeah?Who is we burped more Adam or

(56:19):
the baby Wolf. We'll have tosee. I could do the alphabet shakes.
It's coming out the other side.But thank you for the love,
Thank you for the love. Yeah, yeah, sure, I'm not the
only one that has something to announceon that front too. By the way,
I am also I'm not the onlyperson here who's going to be a
father. Just found out the otherday Bob Schmidt also going to be a
dad. I know this. Yeah, I didn't know this. I really

(56:43):
didn't. Yeah, little little Ididn't know who we wanted to know.
But of course our boss Don Martinon our conference call the other day,
I guess who's gonna be a dad? Well, general feeling as soon as
soon as I told Don, thatmeans I'm okay with the world knowing.
You know what. That's a goodpoint because when I told him the other
day, I'm walking out, fourpeople stop me congratulations, man. I

(57:05):
was like, I have no problemwith anybody knowing, but like, and
these are a couple of salespeople,people I don't really interact with all that
often. Within two hours of metelling Don that we were having a baby,
four people who are rarely interact withsec congratulations. Well now I know
where they got it from. Hopefullyit obligates all those salespeople to get you
a gift. You acknowledge it publicly. Exactly. It was just like,
hey, the rules, Hey Imight have a kid somewhere. I just

(57:28):
don't know it. I mean,what about me, guys, exact?
Wow, what's the number seven?They said three this year with three different
women ladies trying to trying to getthe bag? Huh is that what's about?
Maybe they're all in love Adam.Maybe that's what it is. Have
a baby by me, abilionaire.What's above a throutle well quadruple quintupple well

(57:55):
five, right, quin tupple wouldbe five. Yeah, that's a Jerry
Springer episode or whatever it is called. That's what that is. That's to
them, Look the exact same tome, like real kids are they're going
to complicate your ship this with thewomen. The women. Yeah, he's
got a type. He's runso damnfans, he's trying to run away from
all these ones. Pay your damnalimony, pay your child support. Well,

(58:19):
I love you, guys. It'sbeen a good episode. Holiday exactly.
Yeah, get in your emotions alittle bit here at the end.
It's a lot of Christmas presents.Tyreek damn Man coming up at the very
end of the show, I'll attachby tek some condoms for Christmas movie marathon.
Our traditionally untraditional Christmas movies that youshould be watching nowadays. And not

(58:45):
one of them is die Hard,that's too obvious, but they are in
that vein. Dieard is a Christmasmovie though correct. We've established that if
it takes place around Christmas, ifthere's a fucking Christmas tree just on a
farm, yeah, Christmas's arm Bob, thanks for doing appreciate it us all.
Thanks for having me. Where canwe find you on Twitter? At

(59:05):
Fear the fro Pot, not theother one. No, I don't bother,
I don't post the same thing onit. Give you wasting your time
you'll get is the recommended. Youshould also follow, and then nothing will
come from it. What's the latestsong parody we can look forward to?
Well, I've been I put togetherone in case our coach gets fired,
but right now that scene happening,so it's not not yet released it.
I'm just kind of keeping that onein the chamber. I'm holding on for

(59:28):
Sam Merrill explosion here and for thoseof you who does do not know what
he's been doing, which would beunderstandable. It's the caps three point marksman
who all of a sudden has toplay because everybody on our team has gotten
injured. Well, there you go, you guys toughing it out. You
won three or four? Still,yeah, exactly, Just got a hold
on till Darius. Don't trade SpiderMitchell on Christmas at least that's a whole

(59:49):
nother podcast. Thank you guys fordoing the Fear the Faux Pride listen.
Please, thank you guys for listening. You can find us on x AT
follow out to a I K figone, Instagram, Facebook and Twitter,
or x AT f n E showenjoy the DMX on the way out.
We love you guys. We'll talkto you maybe next year. We'll see
what happens. You can't trust nomore? What's another goodman? You're playing

(01:00:15):
D and D tonight? You wantto come case this? Let's up,
guys. Won't be chills that I'vebeen chining online with dabs all day.
Just keep a power close races Candelman. There's been a lot of unnecessary debates
over the years regarding whether or notDie Hard is a Christmas movie, and
my stance has always been if anypart of the movie takes place during Christmas,

(01:00:38):
you can call it a Christmas movieeven if it's like a cutaway for
like twelve seconds. Yes, okay, good, that'd be a deep cut.
Remember what happened Christmas back in theday and now we're back in Easter.
Maybe you guys have also noticed thatwe encourage everyone during the holidays to
greet each other with a sincere,heartfelt you be motherfucker. I don't think

(01:01:00):
my mother would appreciate that. Okay, judicious with it, gotcha. But
if I'm going off this criteria,there are a lot more movies that qualifies
Christmas clicks in my book. Sohere are adams alternative twelve films of Christmas.
No, you will not be gettinga Christmas Story, or White Christmas,

(01:01:22):
a Wonderful Life, a Miracle onthirty fourth Street, Love Actually,
or even Die Hard here, butwe can start with a movie in the
same genre. He's the Pretty BoyBruce Willis with hair. I'm talking about
Mel Gibson in the original Lethal Weapon, which takes place during Christmas. And
there's a marketing reason for that.Big time Hollywood blockbuster producer for Lethal Weapon

(01:01:43):
and Diehard, Joel Silver, triedto set all his movies during Christmas.
So they'd be more likely to beplayed during the holidays, and they'd get
more residual chicks. Better to receivethan give was his motto. Now you
can't see me doing the meme ofthe brother like tap in his head on
Twitter on Instagram. His last namewas silver for reason smart and In the

(01:02:05):
opening scene of Lethal Weapon Martin Riggs, mel Gibson goes under cover on a
coke operation out of a Christmas treelot, where he even tried out the
snow before busting the crooks. Okay, so let's do it. How much?
How much? For how much?For all of it? You want
it all? Ye want? Wantsit all beautiful? All right? Congratulations?

(01:02:27):
Maybe six footed to put it under. Huh you want a tree,
I'll tell you what. I'll giveyou the best tree. I got it
a lot for nothing, thanks,But the ship's gonna cost you a hundred
well that much. Hey, yousaid you liked it. That's a fair
price. Yeah, yeah, hellyou only live once. Get this together
here, any any five? What'sthe five? Hey? Come on,

(01:02:57):
shut up, man, I'm losingcounting three ninety six forget it, your
dumb shit. One hundred thousand,one hundred thousand, dollars. Did you
hear what he said? One hundredthousand? I'm sorry I can't afford that
note on my salary. But look, I tell you what, I got
a better idea here. Let mesay, I take the whole stash off

(01:03:19):
your hands for free, and youassholes can go today. What do you
say about that? Pulls the gunout, shows the badge. The first
two lethal weapons are really good,and this one is Gary Busey, who
may resemble your crazy uncle that you'llhave to see on Christmas. But Mel
has a fistfight with him next toa Christmas tree at the end, where
the cops just watch like it's fightclub. That's the Christmas spirit and it

(01:03:43):
can be found on HBO Max orAmazon Prime. Maybe instead of hands and
fists, though, the Good Lordcursed you with scissors, and that's where
we go. Next to Tim Burton'sEdward Scissor Hands. It has a beautiful
Christmas scene where Edward is going freddygirl on a nice sculpture to give one
Nona writer that white Christmas, andshe starts twirling in the snow that's falling

(01:04:04):
down. It's magical, imaginative ina seminal moment, in film thanks to
this beautiful soundtrack by Danny Elfman nota real elf but can you see it?

(01:04:44):
The beautiful win Noa, I wantto bone you, just dancing with
snowflakes all around her. I don'tknow. I haven't seen that movie in
about twenty years, so quite honestly, well you got amazon problem, I
do. All right, that's Christmasright there. Okay, go watch it.
But it's not the only Tim Burtonmovie you can find on my list.
This one is on HBO Max though. And while Winona was all white
and pure and Tim Burton's very nextmovie, he went with a crazy hot

(01:05:08):
mess. And Michelle Pfeiffer, whowas all wrapped up in black leather as
Catwoman in Batman, returns here.She is a straddling Michael Keaton. I'm
Batman who had just been wrongly accusedand shot by the police and was lying
prone just for her to take advantageof him as they gaze at some mistletoe.
You can't know, true, girllike me had some days and to

(01:05:33):
die for. Mistletoe can be deadly, but a kiss can be even deadlier
if you mean it licks his facelike a gap. You're the second man
who killed me this week, butI've got seven lives left. I tried

(01:05:57):
to save you. It seems likeevery woman you're trying to say ends up
dead or deeply resentful. Maybe heshould retire that scene. Well, melchier
Icicle, right there, did Imention she had a whip just like Santa's
gonna use on the reindeer. She'snot the only one on my list though,
that's into some kinky stuff. Thisnext movie will leave your eyes wide

(01:06:19):
open. It's eyes white shut withTom Cruise and Nicole Kidman back when they
were a thing before she broke upwith him and said she could finally wear
heels again. Wow, because he'sshort, But it Stanley Kubrick's last film,
unless you count Ai. Cruise getscaught up in some type of weird
Illuminati masquerade slash. Anonymous sex ringhad a mansion he heard about after a

(01:06:40):
Christmas party, but one of thegirls from the mansion ends up dead and
he confronts the guy who told himabout the underground sex party with possible deadly
consequences and rituals played by Sydney PollackHeer Victor. The woman lying dead in
the morgue was the woman at theparty, yes to maybe a missing something

(01:07:02):
here. You called it a fakecharade? Do you mind telling me what
kind of fucking charade ends with somebodyturning up dead? Okay, let's let's
let's let's cut the bullshit. Allright, you've been way out of your
depth for the last twenty four hours. You want to know what kind of

(01:07:23):
a charade. I'll tell you exactlywhat kind that whole play act to take
me phony sacrifice that you've been jerkingyourself off with had absolutely nothing to do
with her real death. Nothing happenedto her after you left that party.
That hadn't happened to her before shegot her brains fucked out period. When
they took her home, she wasshe was just fine. And the rest

(01:07:45):
of it is right there in apaper. She was a junkie, she
odeed, There was nothing suspicious.Her door was locked from the inside.
The police are happy. End ofthe story. Yeah, it's on HBO,
Max. It is a great ormystery filled with paranoia and creepy characters,
just like Christmas with your family.It's right, speaking of murder.

(01:08:06):
Patrick Bateman from American Psycho on Huluwas into that, or was he?
It? Was open ended, butBateman wishes this Christmas party ended sooner as
he starts to get annoyed with histrophy girlfriend played by Reese Witherspoon. Hey,
Hamilton, have a haliay jolly Christmas? Is Alan still handling the Fisher
account? Of course? Who else? Missle so alert? We excellus Patrick,

(01:08:30):
we exces Harry gony as you are. I've been here the entire time.
You just didn't see me say helloto Snowball. Snowball said Patrick?
What he said? It's a littlebaby using it. It's the Vietnamese Pty
pig darling pets. Don't you don'tyou stuff scown? Patrick, You're such

(01:08:57):
a grinch. What does mister Grinchwant for Christmas? And don't say Preston
plants again? If that's I mean? Yeah, hell you know. Reese
kind of looks like a popular pick. But better than looking like a gremlin,
though, which is the next chimney. We're going down well, time
out, because before you get thewater on them, they look nice and
cute and cuddling. That's true.There's still some fang action though, But

(01:09:19):
yes, Gremlins is a Christmas movie. I mean, even the gremlin with
the Ray Charles Glasses could see thiswas a Christmas movie. Just listen to
how it starts with some locals hereat a Christmas tree farm, lay that's
kind of come for Christmas. It'slike we're gonna get start with a lot

(01:09:42):
of trees again this year. Ithought i'd be seeing you about this time.
What's the hell of this? Whatare you doing in there? Can't
I get my tree? Pee?Take that tree to mister Anderson's truckle?
Now what do you say, Alex? You can spare one for the boys
down a sheriff's station. I paidfor mine, Frank, at least trying

(01:10:10):
to get a freebee there. Ifyou paid for Hbo Max or Amazon Prime,
you got it good. Speaking ofpaying, when a hit man gets
paid to do a job, youbetter handle it or there will be hell
to pay by his boss who mighthave been a hit man and in his
time too, which is the casein In Bruges on Prime Hulu and stars
with Colin Farrell, Brenn and Gleesonand Ralph Fines. And this black comedy

(01:10:33):
takes place during Christmas. Here's brenand Gleeson who's gained sympathy for his fellow
hit man he's supposed to kill andColin Farrell after he accidentally kills a kid
and gets depressed. But the Bosshas his rules and he's played by Ralph
Fines. The boy is suicidal.H he's a welcome dead map. It
keeps going on about hell and parWhen I found you yesterday, did I

(01:10:56):
ask you ken? Will you dome a favor and become raci chiatrist?
Please? No? Well I thinkI asked you was could you go blow?
It's fucking it up for me.He's suicidal. I'm suicidal. You're
suicidal. Everybody's fucking suicidal. Wedon't keep going on about it as he
killed himself. Yeah, no,so he's not fucking suicidal, is he?

(01:11:17):
He put a load of gone tohis head this morning. I stopped
him. This gets fucking worse.We were down the park. Let me
get this right. You were downthe park. What's that got to do
with fucking anything? Let me getthis wrong. Not only have you refused
to kill the boy, you've evenstopped the boy from killing himself. We
should have solved my problem. Weshould have solved your problem, which sounds

(01:11:40):
like would have solved the boy's problem. It wouldn't have solved his problem.
That's right. Suicide isn't never theanswer. Just watch more dark comedies and
live vicariously through these people, likethose in the movie Kiss Kiss Being Being,
where we'd all like to do thatto Michelle Monagan when she was dressed
up as a sexy missus. ClausAnne val Kilmer, the private investigator,
was in this one. Robert DannyJunior, who plays an actor, is

(01:12:02):
an actor, gets caught up inthis wild goose chase filled with murder,
incest and buddy comedy stuff like thisscene where they are interrogating a guy to
try to find harmony. Michelle Monaghan, Harry, I just ask if you
ask questions, and it seems likewe don't know anything, like we're fishing.
And for the record, it wasthe boyfriend, the guy who flew
in from Paris. He would havespotted the fake and said that's not Veronica.

(01:12:26):
Okay, am I right, fuckyou ah exactly. So Dexter had
Veronica killed, threw a dress onher, dumped the body, and walked
away clean except for one little thingunderpants, one tiny little pair of undies.
I think that's funny. Huh.I'm gonna break your nose. Now,
I want you to picture a bulletinside your head? Can you do

(01:12:46):
that for me? Fuck you anyway? That's ambiguous? Ambiguous? No,
I don't think so. No.I think he means that when you say
picture it inside your head, okay, is that a bullet will be inside
your head? Or picture it inyour head? Like? Harry got a
point. I don't know anything abouta girl. Seriously, how was bluffing
one? I think that you arebluffing right now? What are you doing?

(01:13:08):
Well? What I'm doing for theguy who likes to bluff is I'm
playing a little game called am Ibluffing? Huh? Where is she?
Where the fuck is harmony? Harry? When you play hardball? I can
do that? Where is the garden? What did you just do? Just
I put in one bullet? Didn'tI put a live round in that gun?
Who? Yeah? There was likean eight percent chance? Was eight?

(01:13:30):
Eight? Yeah? It's math,it's arithmetics. It's more like seventeen
percent. Yes, if it's asix shooter in a scene that's somewhat the
opposite of this where the bad guysin the position of powers. Dennis Leary
is the cat burglar in the refwhich takes place on Christmas Eve, and
here he is letting the wealthy,privileged character played by Kevin Spacey know that

(01:13:54):
he's just a member of the onepercent and isn't living in the real world
and couldn't even tell you what agallon of agnog call. But Kevin Spacey
was just doing some marriage counseling withhis wife who cheated on him, and
lets Dennis Leary know he's the assholehere, just like the song says,
no, you people don't get impressedto you. Huh. Life just bores
this shit out of you people.Well, I'm sorry you don't all have

(01:14:15):
rich mummies and daddies. We canlive off of open restaurants when we get
board playing tennis. You told himabout the restaurant. Yeah, Ared,
you couldn't cut it working for aliving, Mister Brooks Brothers say this.
Shut up. You know you andmy wife have a lot in common.
You both think you have some rightto life working out the way you want
to do, and if it doesn't, you get to act any way you
want. Problem with that is someonestill has to be responsible. I'd love

(01:14:39):
to run around taking classes and playingwith my inner selfness I'd love the freedom
to be a pissed off criminal withoutany responsibility except I don't have the time.
But you don't see me with agun. You don't see me sleeping
with someone else. You think mylife turned out the way I wanted because
I live in this house. Youthink every time I look in the mirror,
I shout, Gee, I'm glad. I'm me and not some nineteen
year old billionaire rock star the bodyof an athlete in a twenty four hour

(01:15:00):
erection. No, I don't,so just excuse the shit out of me.
Hey, he was a very goodactor. Like Kiss, Kiss,
Bang Bang. You gotta pay threeninety nine for that one. It's on
various platforms, Google, Play,It, Tunes, whatever. It's not
the only Christmas movie where there's ahome invasion, though, when someone gets
tied up and what's described as apsychological horror film, Better Watch Out is

(01:15:26):
set during Christmas, where twelve yearold Luke becomes obsessed with his hot babysitter
and stages of fake robbery where hisbuddy Garrett is the robber so he could
play hero and save her. Butshe figures it out and Luke is psychotic
and in complete swim fan mode overher, so he ties her and her
boyfriend up and reenacts a scene outof home alone with these swinging paint cans

(01:15:46):
with her tied up boyfriend. Thisthe season TV Hey Garrett and scouts for
clove hitches clockwise or counterclockwise cloth whonever mind? Got it? Got what?
Dude? What the fuck is goingon? Dude? I have no
idea. It's friend's high. You'refucking hobalone. What are you doing?

(01:16:14):
Man? Please let me honest love, it was his head. What the
fuck are you doing? You're gonnakill him? Just stop it, dere
Derek, right, yeah, please, I'm tire me. Okay, you
said that the pink him knocking backlike in the movie. Okay, look,
I take it back everything I said. I'm sorry. If you win,
just stop it. Please, Let'sjust try it one more time.
Better. Watch Out is on Shutter, Peacock and AMC plus, and I'm

(01:16:35):
telling you that kid Luke is dementedand wicked. Like crampis the evil creature
from Eastern European folklore who's like theChristmas Devil, scaring children that misbehave and
possibly damning them to hell or atleast putting them on the Naughty List.
And while there's many horror movies basedoff him, the best one, which
is also a dark comedy with AdamScott and David Keickner from twenty fifteen named

(01:16:59):
carampis Well. Here's a scene betweenthe families at the Christmas dinner table before
the madness ensues. Uh, that'smy boy, that's my boy, It
sure is. I'm getting Howie Juniorinto game shape. By the time he
gets to high school, he's goingto be the biggest lineman in the state.

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Did you ever spend any time onthe field, Tommy, No,
Actually I didn't have time in myyounger years. I was in training mostly.
What were you training for? ArmyMarines? Eagle Scouts? Eagle Scouts
now Eagle Scouts kids. That's whereyou weave baskets and help little old ladies

(01:17:43):
across the street. Am I right? No, no, no, no,
no, no, it's actually quitea bit of survival training. Well,
the only survival training I need ismy old smoke pole and a big
fat box a buckshot that I keepout in that truck. A shepherd has
got to protect his flock. Honey, we said no gunn talk at the
Dinner Table. It's a really funmovie, has a ton of practical effects.

(01:18:06):
Actually, it's the most obvious Christmasfilm on my list, even though
it is really scary at times anddoesn't maybe put you in the Christmas spirit.
But it's free with a subscription toHulu or Sling TV. And finally,
my last film, and this oneactually has the name Christmas in the
title, so maybe this is themost obvious one. And it's the one

(01:18:26):
I've talked about the most recently,the two thousand and four Trailer Park Boys
Xmas Special. It's on Netflix.Here's one of my favorite clips really in
the history of the show, wheredumbass Ricky and smart but may have Down's
bubbles goes to visit Ricky's dad andhis trailer who wants to know what Ricky's
doing with his life after his latesttrip to the slammer. Did you ever
wonder about why a smart guy likehe was on this earth, rick smart

(01:18:47):
guy, the good soul guy,should be in jail. Don't put this
in jail, seriously, No,not this in jail, buddy. I'm
talking about your spirituality here, okay, come on, spirituality letters. Every
year you know that I mean,I'm sending a letter off to the Big
Guy tomorrow, so it's taking careof done, no problem. Huh,
the letters you and Mom got meto write them every year at Christmas.
I'm sending the one off tomorrow again. Is Santa class Ricky? Yeah,

(01:19:11):
the big guy, the big guy, the big guy. That's God,
Ricky. Yeah, God, that'swhat I said, Santa, Ricky.
You know Santa and God aren't thesame guy, right, Dad? You
didn't know that? I mean,think about ho would he get around the
world one night? Of course thesame person right buffs about home Wreckyllid point
saying on God, that's two differentthings. What oh my fuck? You

(01:19:38):
know, I did maybe think thatI fucked that up. Wasn't sure,
and I didn't want to say anythingjust in case Santa was God like it,
but obviously probably wouldn't pissed him offthat I got the mixed up like
that. Yeah, Ricky, butyou never mixed that up. One of
my favorite shows ever Bark Boys.I means a valid point. Who's going
high? You go travel that fastaround the planet? And I know what

(01:20:00):
do that? As God? Youknow, Gosha and Dancer, Advancer and
Vix come in and you beid anddinner and listen. But you recall the
most fame is main their of balltu on put off ren those Raineer had
them every Chiney knows. And ifyou ever saw him you would even say
close to come on, hold upthe other reindeer. He used to laugh

(01:20:25):
to call him names. They neverlet poor Rudolph any rein their games.
Didn't want to fog he Christmas Evesaying oh k, just saying come on,
photos which your nos so right?Won't you ride my stack tonight?
Then all the rain dance loved him, and he shot it out week League
Poodolph the Red Nose Main. Thereyou go down in history. Forever you

(01:20:48):
get down in history, forever youget out of his story. What m
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