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April 12, 2024 39 mins
The FnA Podcast with Kevin Figgers and Adam Auslund.Eric Sklar Joins the NBA Roundtable to talk about the Lakers failures this season, Clipper/Mavs and more... 
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Let's get this. This is ghettobroadcasting live from the studios of AM five
to seven day. It's on awebsite. This is fn A man,
I am a god. Now whatwhy don't you get out of that jumpsuits?
Let me smack that fat ass.That's a scary crew. As far

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as the product goes, voice ofa new generation man, he has the
young guys really at the top oftheir games. The two of them had
something in common. We bring youradio ecstasy. Oh it's beautiful. Broadcasting
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This is the FNA Podcast. Fridayedition of the FNA Podcast. Adam

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also Kevin figures with you as always. Appreciate you guys. Up, guys,
It's good to be back after abrief hiatus last week. I'm sorry
about That's all right, that's happened. Yeah, we're missing Brevery today.
You call them. She's on theend. Yeah, the Clippers were up
thirty four to five on Tuesday night. I get a migraine from that too.

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Call. Part is, didn't theSuns climb to a thing like five
or six or something? Hey,man, that's insane. It's called a
fake comeback. Oh is it?We'll call that in the business, a
fake ass comeback, all right?Gotcha? Yeah? They had it to
within seven. It got a littlebit icy, pretty insane, but Clippers
up. I've never seen a scorelike this in my life, never once.
You're right in any game right andin almost at any level. The
only thing I could think of.Sadly, I shouldn't bring this up because

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of the guy who's in the buildingand in the room with us right now,
but it made me think of aLakers Kings game from the eighties that
I heard about, that you heardabout, or the showtime Lakers in nineteen
eighty seven were up after one quarterforty to four on my blessed Sacramento Kings

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forty to four after the first fuckingquarter. I think that's got to be
the record, right. How doyou get up thirty six in old a
team professional in twelve minutes, Idon't care. On top of the bearl
versus the bottom of the dol drumshow that happens. No team is that
much better than any team at aprofessional level that they were, Like the

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Tankathon seventy six ers under under DarylMorey, weren't that bad. I don't
know who the Kings had at thattime. That was before my time.
I don't think Danny Inge was thereyet. I don't think those were the
spud Web Kings, the Lionel SimmonsKings where he hurt himself playing a game
boy. I don't think Dwayne Caswell, maybe Wayman Tisdale, maybe quickb.

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I hope God rest his soul.Waymo Tisdale also didn't die on that.
No, well, no, hedidn't have to face that great bass player,
if I'll say, one of thebest musicians talk about dual talents.
All right, man, we're inhere. It's the FNA podcast at fna's
show on Facebook, Twitter x theGraham, I'm that fall out of me.

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He's at k fake one we havewith us today, the Duke Duke,
Duke Duke of sports here trying tobite a real show. Well he
comes home with Petro some money sometimestoo. He's on KF I as there.
I guess sports expert, right whenwhen when there's a big story they
bring in, I guess Conway bringsme on for that. Gary and Shannon

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on the other day, and likethe O. J. Simpson thing,
happened and the Otani was exonerated,and they're talking to Fred. Rogan is
like, why you're talking to Fred? You have the Duke. I was
busy prepping for John Show yesterday,going back all the way to the John's
fine. Oh man, get Fredany more of the Duke. Hey,
I'll take it. He's an expert. On't forget Fred basically, but yes,

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the NBA playoffs are are are basicallyon the horizon, you know,
and the in for some well wowstarts early. The playoff race is tighter
than a Serena Williams jumpsuit. Abrick would say has been locked in.
So yes, we bring in basicallyAdam's favorite nemesis, the Duke of sports
and less he wishes no duke outhere. Sorry, Sam Amick is the

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number one nemesis for the Duke,and then Adam, I think, comes
in sick. I got no issuewith Sam. Yeah, Sam has all
the beef with you. Yeah apparently. So we'll talk a little NBA FA
here in a second. But wedo have some voicemails to get to at
nine four, nine, four seven, eight eleven ninety seven. These did
come in last week. We mentionedwe do not have a show last week,
so we'll see what we have onthe talk ass hotline. One of

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these scenes very lengthy. You mightbe getting cut off. Yeah, we
have. Luckily, we have away to handle those lengthy voicemails. We
tell you to keep it under aminute at least, right, And I
will say so, I don't previewthese the first time you hear. This
is the first time we hear this. But we have two voicemails, and
both of them come came from theexact same phone number, so there's been

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a better chance that first one isgetting cut off. So somebody has something
on their chest. So let's let'ssee what we got. Yeah, the
podcast, this is your guy,Big Lou. I have no idea what
how you guys got on the topic. But you were speaking on the I
think the you're speaking on the kidthat staying the Lion King, the original
Lion King's fall. His name isJason Weaver. He's an actor or whatever.

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A lot of a lot of hoodclassics. I don't know, so
I Adam knows a lot of butbut but you were right, Adam.
He was on the TV show SmartGuy. He was the brother and Smart
Guy. He was in THEA whichwas uh like a two year run in
the nineties, not a great show. But recently he's been on the TV

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show as a shy. He's beenhe's had a recurring road on that.
I think he was in at land the Drum Line, I think,
or whatever he's he's actually spoke on. He spoke on how much he was
paid to do the original Lion King. I believe it was like a million
dollars or two million dollars. Hewas offered two million dollars and if Mom

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said no, if you guys areoffering this two million, it must be
even bigger than we expect. Sothat's when that's when they negotiated the whole
points thing and creature royalties or whatever. So he said that he got royalties
obviously from the original Lion King,and then when the new one came out
with about three or four years agowhenever it was, he got money off

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of that too, because he stillattached to the song and the movie,
so he got he got even hegot money. Then thirty years later,
I'm the Mighty Lion King or whateverit was. So yeah, mama's,
mama's are the best you'll have theleast day and see you at the game

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soon, Adam. I'll be therein a week. Mama's are the best.
Mama's no best whenever negotiating contracts.Apparently his mom this guy's mom good
pulled by you from Smart Guy showthat I didn't watch up that I did
watch back in the day. Yeah, Big Lou was also right about him
being in at L and Drumline,so yeah, cool, Yeah, I

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know those are the only two moviesthat I knew. I don't know if
the residual checks are coming as frequently. Probably not out there. I've seen
exactly every year, okay, andATL will get on f x X or
whatever here and there, so youknow. And I haven't seen The Shy
and a lot of people do likethe show. I have not watched it,
but you know, apparently it's solid, so I can't really speak on

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it too much. I'm just impressedBig Lou made it through. That was
interesting, exactly. Well, youknow, I guess if you can hold
our short millennial attentions for that long, then you know you can make it
past a minute. So you starttalking about Disney movies from back in the
day. I call them the BigFour from Little Mermaid to Lion King.
In between there he had Beauty andthe Beast and Aladdin, the Big for

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Pocahontas. Yeah, Color Lion Kingis my favorite Disney movie. Oh,
I haven't even thought about this.Wow. Yeah, I do love the
Lion King. My Hebrew name isgod Lion, so it's like mine is
a big part of my life.This is your king. Yeah, that's
your king, Lion King. Yeah, screw lebronout the typical liker fan here.

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We get the best player ever.We still defense and you know that
I appreciate Lebron. We had thatfirst. All right, do we got
another phone call? We have anotherphone call from either from Big lou or
somebody that stole Big Loose phones tohelp someone. I'm pretty sure you're gonna
cut off the last message. Isaw that it was two minutes long.

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So recap they say we were sayingthe original King song. Mom negotiated a
deal where he got pointed, we'reall current and launch one. We got
it. Next call. Louis wereso good in the original we didn't even
need the three prize. We're good, just like the bullshit ass Lion King

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two movie and the prequels and Disneyalways trying to make an extra buck there.
I don't remember the sequel well,but I remember hating it so that
much. I do know. Iremember returned to Jafar a little bit.
The second Aladdin movie. Of sequels, I think that's one of the better
sequels of a really really good,like classic movie, whatever you want to
call it, that have been released. I think returners far and honestly.
The third one was just Prince ofThieves with Aladdin's dad. That one was

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not bad either. No, Idefinitely remember that one being like, okay,
here, solid here, but noRobin Williams. I don't mean well,
I don't know who played the RobinWilliams came back for the third one.
He did. He was not inthe second one. He was not
part of the cartoon series, buthe did come back, came straight to
DVD at that time. It wasa lot Disney found it in their budget

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somewhere, you know, Disney's hurtingfor money. Maybe his mom did not
negotiate his contract. He had toor something. It's possible, all right,
we know why Eric's here. Yes, we don't have Bob Schmid.
We don't have Breebee. But westill have the NBA round Table. Yes,

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it's time for the NBA round Tableon the f n A podcast.
All right, boys, got alot to get into, we do.
Some people have a lot to answerfor Darvin Ham Nice. I love that.
That's great. I was gonna sayyou, but okay, Darvin Ham,

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Darvin Darvid Ham, Listen, Harvey'snot like Darvin hasn't gotten a lot
of hate throughout the season to beginwith. I mean, this is not
something new, well hate or legitimatecriticism or however you want to frame it.
The crazy lineup changes really with noreason whatsoever to deserve with yes,

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the report this week, they kindof echoed some reports from sam Ay making
others earlier in the season that manyplayers were so distraught with him that they
possibly wanted to try to make achange. Genie Bus likes him too much
that she doesn't want to fire him. So none of that is necessarily new.
It just becomes more glaring now whenyou're in the final three four games
of the season and you have achance to play yourself out of the play
in tournament and you just say,man, if our lineups looked different in

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December or January and we could havewon three or four more games, we
wouldn't be in this position. Wewere looking at stretches in the season before
we went on here, Eric andI of where things went wrong for the
Lakers, because Eric brought something upthat's appropriate Darbyn Ham and a postgame presser.
Yeah, you want to remind peopleof what he said and how those
words right now are probably coming backto onhum So for context, the stretch

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of games that Adam and I weretalking about before we started recording was December
twelfth to January thirteenth. I rememberedthe January once where all of a sudden
they had six straight games at homeand the talk was, Oh, the
Lakers are going to handle their business. And I really thought they were going
to go on a run and getback into being a top four season right
And we thought after the way then season tournament went, they were going

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to continue that momentum. And thenit just took a downward spiral during that
month spanned from December twelfth to Januarythirteenth, but a little too high for
that playing tournament on January fifth,season sorry, on January fifth, after
the Lakers lost at home to theMemphis Grizzlies one twenty seven, one thirteen,

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Darvin Ham postgame said quote, I'mtired of people living and dying with
every single game we play. It'sludicrous, actually, Like, come on,
man, it's a marathon. Thatquote, And that night was the
night the majority of Lakers fans turnedon Darvin Ham. You can't tell Lakers
fans that they can't live and diewith every single game. If the Lakers

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had taken that month seriously, fromDecember twelfth to January thirteenth, where they
went five to twelve, and Iwent back yesterday, bad teams steven there
so bad losses. I went backyesterday and I counted eight games where they
should have won, and that wouldhave flipped their record to thirteen and four
in that seventeen game span, andthey literally probably would not be in the

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position that they're in today half ofeight. How about just you're solidly in
the playoffs, I think exactly.That's how egregious Darvin Ham's lineup construction and
rotations have been and how detrimental they'vebeen to the Lakers season this year,
and his quote of you can't liveand die by every game, well,

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right now, I hear a Lakersfans said we should have gotten extra win
for winning the end season tournament.Why don't we get that win? That
game counts for nothing. If wehad that extra win right now would be
a big deal. I didn't hearit. People are saying that, Oh
yeah, there have there have beenLakers fans that have been saying that we
have to understanding coming into the tournamentthat I wasn't gonna came exactly. So
it's like I can't cry over spilledmilk with that. It's like next year
going forward, it's like, yes, the n season tournament, whoever wins

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that should get some sort of I'dbe okay with the loser not taking an
extra loss, but the winner gettingan extra victory. There. That's yeah,
that extra incentive now that works forme. I guess it doesn't necessarily
hurt. I don't think. Idon't think it should have playoff implications.
But aside from the monetary like prizethat the players get, there should be

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something for the team where they arerewarded for winning this quote unquote tournament that
the league is trying to propel.Just look at the standings in the West
and what an extra win would dofor so many teams. It could be
anyone. We're talking Minnesota or theNuggets like that would put Minnesota back to
a tie with the Denver Nuggets tothey had one extra victory, right And

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if you're looking at the standings withthe Kings, the Warriors, and the
Lakers right now all at forty fiveand thirty five, and then the Suns
the seventh seed currently at forty sevenand thirty three, if the Lakers had
won a few more games during thatstretch from December to January, they'd be
the sixth seed at least probably theywouldn't even find themselves in the plane.

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And now, with two games leftin the season and two games on the
road for the Lakers against the Grizzliesand the Pelicans, albeit those teams are
at well, not the Pelicans,but the Grizzlies are at the bottom of
the path in the West Western Conference, not making the playoffs, you would
expect that the Lakers are supposed towin these games. But who knows what

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Darbnham's lineups are going to be tonightand on Sunday. Wait, he's stuck
pretty consistent, at least with thestarting lineup now with Ruie. Now,
yeah, that's why I don't thinkfucking long enough, right, yes,
And I don't think coincidentally, that'swhy they've played so well. You know,
over these last what fifteen games,they won twelve of them something like
that. Yeah, and the lossesthey've had, with the exception of one
I think in Indiana, the othertwo either Lebron was out or ad was

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out. So yeah, but whatmade no sense to me was you got
to the Western Conference with a certainstarting five. I know there were some
injuries and there were times where youwouldn't have all those guys available, but
even when they did, they weren'tplaying the same lineup that got them on
that run to the Western Conference finalslast season. That makes no sense whatsoever.

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Yeah, and Ruey everybody said fromthe beginning of the season like this
was one of the better players onthe team, starting the starting lineup.
December December eighteenth, Cam Reddish TwayanPrince. Why are we doing? No?
Cam reddis Torrian Prince exactly the twopeople I'm about to bring up.
December eighteenth, the Lakers lose athome to the Knicks by five one fourteen
one oh nine, and the startinglineup for that game Anthony Davis, Lebron,

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James D'Angelo, Russell, Torrian Princeand Cam Reddish off the bench,
Reeves Ruy Hachimura, Jared Vanderbilt andJackson Hayes. Torrian Prince played thirty eight
minutes that game, Cam Reddish playedtwenty seven, Austin played thirty three off
the bench, Ruy played seventeen andhad eight points. Jared Vanderbilt played thirteen
minutes in that game and the Lakerslost by five. And the fact that

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two of those guys coming off thebench are now in the starting lineup as
they should have been after starting withthe first four games eight games into the
season, He's got off to aslow start because he literally played to the
Western Conference Finals the season before,straight into Team USA straight into this season.
It's like it took him a littlebit to get his bearings back after

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such a grueling offseason playing with TeamUSA and doing well with Team USA.
So it's it's just been self sabotagedby Darvin Ham essentially with these lineups from
the beginning of the season, AndI wonder how much of it is Darvin
throwing his weight around and saying thisis my team. I'm putting my stamp

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on it. I don't care whatothers say, but we're gonna have a
defensive mindset. What was that gamein Okay? See, I know you
won it, but for a coupleof games they started Cam Reddish next to
Van Doh, next to Lebron,next to Ad I think it was January
fifteenth where the Lakers won one twelveone oh five. Who's the starting lineup?

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Let's see, because this was alineup when it was announced that,
everybody on Twitter said, uh,okay, that's nice defensive lineup. What
about on offense? Oh no,it wasn't that game because it was ad
toring Prince, Lebron, Dil andAustin Off the bench was Ruy, Vanderbilt,
Hayes and or Wood and Christy.The game I referred to you won

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at Lakers at Okay, see myfault at OKC. And this was his
new lineup that he was going totry to have more of a defensive hearing
this out there two days before Christmas, give me the lineup, hold on,
give it to me, give meyour pain, Yeah, listen,

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listen, nothing it would be ad toring Prince Jared Vanderbilt Lebron James cam
Reddish, that was the starting lineup. Are you gonna make a shot with
that lineup? Who's making a jumpshot in that lineup? That's that's ridiculous
to me. Yeah, I don'tknow if there's politics in play, because
he got into it with D'Angel Russellright well, there was something happening there

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and Russell mentioned, you know,in the article with the ESPN about his
issues last year with him and therumors about Torrian Prince being his guy.
And we know that Torrian Prince wasat Milwaukee when he was an assistant there
have a close relationship, so he'smaybe had some favor with him. So
it would not surprise me if politicshad something to do with a lot of
these situations, even at cam Redersh. I think when Darvin Hambles in Atlanta

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possibly had some cross over there.It's biting them in the ass now.
Yeah, just one more win wouldmean so much to them because right now
they're in the tenth spot. Whatthey need to happen tonight and you're going
state to lose, right they needto go in state to lose to the
Pelicans, and they need the Sunsto beat the Kings. Yeah, and
if the Lakers win, they'll moveup and I think the eight eight spot,

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right, yeah, they can't getout of the play it now,
correct. No, the Lakers haveto win out and the best they can
be is eight is eight. Yeah, I'm pretty sure win the seven eight
matchup. You're the seventh seed.Yeah, yeah, you just want to
try to get to eight because yougive yourself two chances to you know,
avoid elimination. Right. That's beenmy biggest thing the last two weeks for

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the Lakers is avoid that nine toten games so you don't have to possibly
play two playing games. What sucksis they are on the cusp of being
able to possibly jump up to six. Yeah, they were right there for
a couple of days. Lost tothe Warriors was brutal, right after the
All Star breaking Lebron sat that gameand I was pissed about that. I'm
talking about a couple of monks.Recent loss to the Golden State Wars well

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yeah, even yeah, that wherethey set the record for three pointer for
three point efficiency. That was atwenty six or thirty three or something like
that. That was insane. Thatwasn't toys A thirty three but they they
shot sixty three percent or something likethat on high volume from three. It
was it was the highest percentage Ithink for three point percentage in a game.

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It was it was history over likethere was like over thirty four thousand
games or thirty four hundred games thathad been played and the Warriors had like
the best three point stat line outof any game in like NBA history.
And that's not AD. That's notjust destroying in the paint. And no,
I know AD didn't play, andthat's a big part of it.
But Anthony Davis is sitting out thereblocking shots on the perimeter against everybody clientet

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Raymond Green probably had the best threepoint shooting game of his life, but
that doesn't account for comean gu andeverybody else going off to well yeah,
and the fact that Darvin Ham's schemeswere to go under screens when ste Steph
Curry's getting a screen set for him, it's like, what do we do?
That makes sense? Twenty six forforty one, that's sixty three point
from three. That is the alltime record at least of a game where
that many threes are taken. Andwe've talked about it throughout you know,

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every time you come on the show, pot shots that players are taking at
Darbnham publicly. Really did it youmention any talking about their defensive game plan
against Golden State? You know,it's wild. You'll see some videos come
out from people that are at thegames and they'll put them on Twitter,
and you'll see some of the Lakersplayers they're just they just look completely disinterested

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in time out huddles when Darvin Haam'strying to like explain stuff to them.
It's wild. Lebron would rather haveJJ Reddick be the coach or Phil Handy
at the very least. I meanthere's multiple videos I for Lebron walks off
the court and goes straight to Philand doesn't even acknowledge that. Yeah,
yeah, it's that. I don'tknow how the Lakers go into next season
with Darvin Ham as the head coach. Now, the next question is who

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do they get? And that's reallysomebody that they're not going to tune out.
Maybe yeah, because there's the thing. As much as Geni Bus might
love Darvin Ham, you know oneship that Lebron that you know has from
a leverage standpoint, is he's gonnaopt out. Now, how many teams
can actually afford to paying fifty milliondollars in the upper market. That's a
different conversation, but he can atleast have the threat of it's either Darvin

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or me, and I wouldn't putit past him to do that. I
don't blame him if he does it. After the way this season went,
this is the healthiest Lebron and adhave been their entire Laker run. Laker
run, that's the most disappointing partof it. It came down to not
optimizing lineups, like, yeah,pieces were there to win maybe fifty games.
Yeah, I think they were there. So that's on the head coach.

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Like for as much as people saywhat can you do, what can
you do? You can optimize lineups. You can play the right guys and
put them in a position to succeed. Are there a faction of Laker fans
that would like to see them loseearly so they make sure they fired Darvin
Ham? I'm sure they're I'm sure. Are there? No? No?
I I want to see the Lakerswin every single game possible. And that's

(23:12):
why that quote from Darvin Ham onJanuary fifth, saying we need to stop
living and dying with every single gamereally struck a chord with me because it's
like, no, you're the Lakers. You have to win every single game
and be in contention for a championshipevery single year. You have to win
as many single games as possible,and you have to do whatever it takes

(23:33):
to do that exact goal. AndDarvin hasn't done that this year, and
that it's also it's one of thosethings where like we acknowledge that the seasons
of marathon and you can't still getcaught up on every game, but you
can't say that publicly. Yes,especially after a loss like they had that
night, these fans are going tolive and die with it. You just
as a coach, as a player, you just understand that that's how this

(23:55):
works. And in LA everything ismagnified. And that goes for anything that
franchise especially, Yeah, but withthe Lakers, everything else is magnific.
Fool's eye more on his back,saying that he tried to walk it back
and practice the next day, butyou already said, we know how he
felt. Somebody got in your earand told you to clean it up.
It was too late. Having saidall of this, and the desperate straits
the Lakers are in right now,with needing victories and help from others,

(24:21):
I still think they get out.If they're the seventh seed. I think
they can take down Minnesota. Ithink they can take down Okay S for
sure. Minnesota's gonna be tough forIf Cat is back to being Cat,
it looks like, yeah, he'scoming back, but will he be looked
like himself? I would feel alot more confident about it if I knew
Karl Anthony Towns wasn't going to bea factor. Can't see they're bouncing.

(24:41):
Yeah, I really believe that's abad match up for the Thunder. They're
just a really bad match up forthe Lakers. And I'm gonna say this,
and I hate saying, I'm gonnasay this. All right, we'll
say this right now. I knowwhere you're going, and I'm very scared
for what you're about to say,because I don't know if I believe it.
I think they have a chance againstthe Denver Dugets. Don't see it.
I don't see it. Also dependson what you mean by you mean

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a chance. You need a chanceto not get swept. If you're going
there, then sure, yeah,possible. I think they can shave two
games off them. I think theycan give them a scare. My logic
is this, this will be good. Please convince me, because I know
they've lost eight or nine a rowgoing back to the Western Conference Finals against
Denver, and pretty much every gamethey've lost the last like five or six

(25:25):
at the exact same script. Theylose in the fourth quarter, they get
out executed late, they win oneof those games early on in the series,
game one or game two, wherethey overcome that mental hurdle. I
think it could do. But thatgoes for any that goes for any playoff
series. Adam, if if theif the road team wins game one or
two, they have the momentum inthe series. But I'm talking about against

(25:48):
the Denver you're talking about, Yeah, they can slay the one seed in
the West if a few things gotheir way. I don't think they're that
far off. I really don't.I've never bought into the talent disparity between
the top of the playoff eligible teamsin the West and the bottom teams.
Is that obviously is not no yea. I do argue that they argue against

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that. Well, people were sayingthere's this great separation going on early on
when the Clippers were in that mixwith the top three teams record wise,
everybody said, these teams are definitelya cut above. I never thought that
regular season wise, the record saysso. But there's enough talent, yeah,
on all these teams, the PhoenixSuns, even who are down thirty
five to four to the Clippers Tuesdaynight. Did I mention that, yeah,

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you have those three guys, ifthey happen to be healthy and can
all get hot, why not Dallaswith the two guys that the way that
they can play, and defensively thathell, they've improved. I mean,
anybody one through eight, to behonest with nine, has a legit shot
of winning a couple of series,making a running the postseason out of the
Western Conference. I never would havesubscribed to that theory that there's this great
separation. I say, people saythat aren't watching. Where I do agree
with Adam in that the Lakers willhave a chance against the one seed no

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matter who they play against. Ifthey're the eight seed in any playoff scenario,
is the ultimate fact that they stillhave Lebron James and Anthony Davis,
and this is the healthiest that they'vebeen albeit Lebron in year twenty one,
but he's still doing absolutely ridiculous thing. This time last year, he was
dealing with the foot right. Hetore attendant in his foot last year and
they still made it to the WesternConference. Fintal, I think that injury

(27:21):
was much more debilitating what he's dealingwith now with the ankle, it's more
manageable when he's out there. He'smissed games because of it, but when
he is out there, he lookscloser to being peak Lebron than what he
was last year with playing through thefootage. He was sick the other night
the game they just played that theylost against Warriors, and he showed up
like he shows up to games,like four or five hours before tip off.

(27:44):
He showed up ninety minutes before tipoffand scored thirty three points and almost
had a triple double, but obviouslyin a loss. But it's like he's
doing absolutely ridiculous things. Though,you got something to say about your boy
Anthony Davis missing that game with theheadache as someone who say count for this
as someone who suffers chronic migraines,No, I don't. If he had
a headache and was throwing up.That's something that I've experienced. He also

(28:07):
got smacked upside at the air prettygood. That had to know badly so
that they'd take him out of thegame in the game. And what's what's
crazy to me is the fact thatthe Lakers said that he wasn't in concussion
protocol, and that did make alot of sense. Who didn't they just
say that, why not cover foryour guy and say that it's getting him
up to criticism by saying it's aheadache. It's another Darvin Ham speaking out
loud when you should keep that insideand not covering quiet. And also,

(28:32):
yeah, saying the quiet party couldalso give him cover this year because this
is the healthy he's been since theNew World. He's played seventy four games.
He hadn't played that many since hewas in New Orleans. He was
just a phrase for that and thenhe misses a game for a headache and
everything reversed back to, oh hesaw. I also think it helps that
he got smacked upside at the face. If it was justous he was walking
through the tunnel and something happened.He missed three quarters of the Minnesota game

(28:53):
because of it. It's like hewas clearly experiencing symptoms of a concussion.
And as someone who's like I said, suffer migraines and nausea is a symptom
of a migraine, Darvin Ham probablydoesn't know the difference between a migraine and
a head headache. So it's like, there is differences between just a normal
headache and a migraine. And yeah, if you're throwing up from it,
it's like that's that's debilitating. There'sa nuance to nausea, yeah, exactly.

(29:17):
But on the topic of games playedreal quick, I just wanted to
shout out Austin Reeves because I mentionedhow he went through a grueling season last
season, making it all the wayto the Western Final, Western Conference Finals,
going all the way into Team USAin the summer. He'll be Kobe,
He's if he plays the last twogames of the season, he'll have
played all eighty two games this year. And that doesn't happen in the same

(29:37):
days, and that's not getting talkedabout by anybody in the national media.
So I just wanted to shout outAustin Reeves for hopefully playing all eighty two
and even if he doesn't play alleighty two and he's at the eighty mark.
Now, that's very commendable after theoffseason he had in the way a
season started, I doubt I'm unmoved, but whatever can we talk about?
Yeah, speaking of bastions of healthabout the Clippers, How'skawi feeling? You

(30:02):
guys really screwed up that home athome for the Lakers? Excuse me for
the Lakers? Well, yeah,if you guys beat the song world,
do we care? I know,but I'm just saying, well, when
they're running, when Bowen Thailand hasto be the guy scoring forty points,
I think you're gonna be in troublelike that. Well recognize, yeah,
the guy that they sent home atthe All Star break looking to trade him.
Well, this is why he feltlike he should have been bones and

(30:26):
there we say something the other nightthat PJ was out there but would rather
him not be or something like that. I didn't hear that. Okay,
him say something like this, PJwas out there, but I don't know
if we should have been. Butit's like, it's whatever, this is
what we got. I'm gonna pullup Coach Lou. I don't remember,
Oh yeah, okay, yeah,I remember how do you feel about the
Clips? We know they're playing Dallas, we just don't know exactly where the
series is starting now. That's whythe only playoff series in Stone matchup wise

(30:48):
right kind of wild, which tellsyou how close things are for the most
part in the standings. It's gonnabe a fun one. It should be.
Yeah. As an objective server,Yeah, as an objective server,
it's gonna be amazing to watch.It's gonna be a Clipper fan or a
Mavericks fan, I guess with you'llbe sweating bullets. Can I ask you
guys a question? I think Kevinobviously knows this, but uh, who

(31:08):
won that Clippers Mavericks series in twentytwenty in the bubble in the first round
the Clippers? Oh no, Ithot Luca Donci beat him, right,
Remember Luca beat him by himself.That's what Chuck said. Who won that
series in twenty twenty one in sevengames? Um? Pretty sure that was
the Clippers? Okay, I justwant to make sure that's had like a

(31:30):
quadruple double and Luca had a tripledouble and they beat him in seven games.
There is a wild fucking narrative outthere. I called Steve Smith out
for it. I pulled the videoback in twenty twenty one. He was
saying Luca beat them in the bubblein twenty twenty and he made up all
this stuff about a game winning serieswinning shot by Luka Doncic and how the

(31:51):
Dallas Mavericks were gaining confidence throughout theseries, and it's like, hey,
dude, they lost a game byforty to the Clippers in that series and
they lost the series game winning shotin a game in the series. He
was real confused, and a lotof people seem to be confused. Chuck
last night said Luka Doncicz owns theClippers. It's like, could you own
them when you have a losing recordagainst them and have lost both playoff rounds

(32:14):
where Kawhi Leonard was better in thatseries than Luca. No. No,
even if your numbers and your averagesare great, you can't say you own
somebody unless you actually beat them,especially when you compare them to Kawhi who
is actually having to play defense.One guy's being hidden on the defensive end.
Yeah, one guy you're trying notto go up against it for the
Dallas Mavericks in Kawhi Leonard you're tryingto set screens and get him off.

(32:37):
I will say Dallas pretty impressive thatDallas has been able to hide two guys
who are generally a net negative onthe defensive end in Kyrie and Luca in
the back court. That's the thing. The misconception with Dallas right now has
been, well, they don't playany defense. They are a bottom ten
defense on the season. I'm noteven sure if that's still true now,
but over the last thirty five gamesthey're eighth defensively. Basically since the trade

(32:59):
deadline, they've been different team.Daniel Gaffer bringing him in PJ. Washington,
they are a completely different team.Last eighteen games, they are the
number one defense in the league.They've played some bad teams in there,
and I don't think it's truly indicativeof how good they've been, but they've
been good. It's been good enough. It gives you confidence too. Yeah,
you know, they're figuring out waysto play better team defense. Lucas

(33:21):
bought in more defensively. Kyrie Irving'sgiven a better effort out her solid defensively
when he wants to be. Hejust doesn't want to play most of the
time. Kyrie, Yeah, it'sa pick and choose kind of. He's
just undersize, he's small, buthe was good against Steph Curry at times
in the finals. Like he's verycapable. So I don't buy any stretch
of the imagination think this is goingto be an easy series for the Clippers
or think this is a shoe win. They could lose this series if they

(33:44):
do not bring their A game,meaning if they don't play to their potential
and they play at their B plusgame, they could lose. The margin
of error. Is that slim becauseDallas is that's talented. No, I
think I think this is a legitimateseven game series in the first round,
no matter what I say, Iagree there could be a few of those
this year. But oh yeah,no, the playoffs, the first round

(34:05):
of the playoffs is going to bea blood bath in both in both conferences
to a degree. Yeah, Andit's like I mean to kind of we'll
get back to the Clippers in asecond, but it's like Palla Bank Carol
is not getting any credit for whathe's done with the Magic and they're they're
in the playoff pack. They're tough, yeah, and off recently, but
they're they're a lot better than Ithink a lot of people thought they'd be
throughout the entire season. Yes,their way ahead of schedule. Yeah,

(34:25):
they're not supposed to be this good, this fast. Yeah. Some teams
in the East have been down,obviously Miami Philly because of the injury to
Embid. But he's back now,so that could turn into a blood bath
exactly in that first round series.Whoever that two seven or one eight matchup
is, whoever draws Philly. Ifit's Boston or Milwaukee or Cleveland or New
York, I don't know. Idon't know exactly how close it is.

(34:49):
Boston's the runaway for the number one, so they're up like fifteen games,
New Ras flip flopping every other day. It seemed like for a while.
I don't know exactly where that's rightnow. Right now it's Boston, Milwaukee,
New York, Cleveland, Orlando,Indiana, and then the plane is
Philly, Miami, Chicago, Atlanta. I have zero confidence in Milwaukee,
by the way. First of all, I lost it when they hired Doc
to begin with. Yeah, andnow it's even worse. Are they five

(35:10):
hundred or a game under five hundred? I love Doc as a person,
a very nice guy. That's abunch of crap, and y' all know
it well. But they have beenso bad and now jan this nobody knows
how healthy he is or will orwon't be when the playoffs began. Garry
right, So yeah, I've alreadybeen dealing with correct correct, So you
at that on top of the factthat they haven't been playing great to begin

(35:31):
with. Yeah, I mean ifthey draw Philly, oh, I'm taking
Philly. Yeah, I'm taking Phillyeasily. The Philadelphia seventy six ers,
obviously, they really they struggled morethan you would even expect without MBID.
I know he's the MVP and everything, but you're supposed to be a contender.
They should at least be able tobe five hundred, and they were
below it. You made some traysto try to help stymy that a little

(35:53):
bit, and it did kind ofdidn't didn't help. The Knicks are just
a game back of Milwaukee for thattwo seed, by the way, and
Cleveland is a game back to theKnicks. So I guess the Knicks are
in play for stealing the two seedsfrom Milwaukee, depending on what happens the
last couple of years here. Butthe Knicks, to me, are very
dangerous with og back. Yeah,for them, it just sucks not having

(36:15):
Julius Randall. I mean that wouldput him on a different level. Like
if they had Julius Randall in themix, I don't think it'd be far
better to say that they can makea run to the NBA finals, you
know, playoff. Randall's had hisissues. Well, look, well he's
always shoulder there. I don't knowthat was shooting like thirty five percent in
the playoffs the last couple of times, but he dislocated his shoulder and had

(36:36):
surgery. He's out. No,I don't know. He's saying if he's
available, if he were available,he doesn't know how much he's help.
And it's like, if you thinkthe Knicks are dangerous without him, imagine
if he actually were available for them. Heat the Lakers took Boston is still
obviously heading shoulders by everybody else.But you guys got for the m v
P. Jokis. Yeah, Ithink it's him or Luca or SGA.

(37:00):
I think SGA may have fallen offfor a lot of people that hurt.
Yeah, because if you asked methis three weeks ago, I would have
said SGA. It's a pet peeveof mine. But when the fuck is
Shaq, Shaq gonna shut up aboutsaying Jokic is the best big man in
the league. He's the best player, dumbass. It's the most definitive thing
ever. If you are the reigningFinals MVP, you have already won two

(37:23):
regular season MVPs in the last threeyears. You're in contention and likely going
to win another one this year.I think you're the best player in the
league. That's not debatable, thoughI could see him not and nothing.
Bob brought this up before. Jokicmight not win it because it might be
fatigue. I could see that maybe, But I think the game against Minnesota
the other to get the one seed. Yeah, I would give it to

(37:46):
him too. I just know therewere a lot of people just wouldn't give
it to them because they want togive it to somebody else. Luca is
a hot name because but I justI don't know how you give it to
a fifth seed. His numbers areso crazy, as I know, but
you have to have historic numbers,just like with Russ. Yeah, and

(38:07):
how he won it is like asixth seed. If SGA had stayed healthy
and they were like legitimately locked intothe war seat. I think he would
have he would have gotten because theamount of games that he had played and
the numbers in the efficiency he putup were pretty amazing too. Yeah,
but Yokis has done a lot ofit with Aul Jabal Murray this season.
He's still the best. And thatgame we had forty one, he had
a forty one point triple double againstMinnesota to basically secure the one seed.

(38:30):
That was a play in for theone seed. Yeah, all right,
Duke, this is always fun.Many thanks for having me. We're gonna
do this again, obviously as theplayoffs continue to progress, as hopefully the
Lakers and Clippers continue to go forwardin the playoffs, we'll see your mouth
to God's ears, We'll possibly seemaybe we'll get the Hallway Series it could
have for you know before. Iguess it will no longer be possible when

(38:52):
the Clippers move out. So thisthis year could be the year. All
we need is the Clippers to winthe first round. You guys to take
out the Denver Nuggets in the firstround. Very easy to do, easy,
easy task on both fronts. Imentioned is the best player the Ducal
Sports is where you can find Ericat follow Adam as Adam I m at

(39:13):
k fig one. We are atfn A show on Instagram, Facebook and
Twitter. Thank you Big Lou forthe voicemails. Nine four nine four seven
eight eleven ninety seven is the numberto call and leave us a voicemail on
the Talk Gus hotline. Feel better, Yes, Bree with thinking about you,
We miss you, Bob, thinkingabout the Suns too. We'll talk
to you guys next week. Andhis book O. J. Simpson says

(39:37):
that he would have taken a bulletor stood in front of a train for
nicoll Man. I'm gonna tell youthat has some bad luck. When the
one guy who would have died foryou kills you. That's God.
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