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Got that right, Matt.

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It is our two. We aren't a Flexiller. Petros is
not here. Don McClain is thankful for that. Appreciate you
don for coming in today. P is good to be

(01:09):
here to Orlando, Orlando. I love you, Orlando, Florida, University
of Central Florida. I have no idea who they're playing,
but it is sounds like P's got some long road
trips this year. Michigan State. Yeah, you know, from the

(01:29):
PAC twelve trail to I believe it was the AAC
when he was doing all the La Tech North Texas games,
to a lot of studio action with the hangout here
at the home front for a while, to now hitting
the road again to some interesting markets, like you said,

(01:50):
East Lansing, Boise, Orlando, Florida. He'd never been. I said,
I'd love to give you some spots. But I was
aston Orlando in two thousand and nine when the Lakers
won the NBA Championship against the Magic during those middle
three games and we were there for five full days,
and I learned I'm not a Florida guy. I think

(02:12):
there's a lot of people that are Florida people. They
can get into it, you know that, like the the independence,
the no state income tax, the tropical climate, the humidity,
the water. Not for me, not a fan. You lived
in Miami, dial, Yeah, I didn't love it. I had
a bad year.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
I was heard that I think was part of it,
but just yeah, I didn't love Miami either.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, I can I can see why some people love it.
Me too, totally understand why some people love it.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
I was married at that point too, so it's not
like the night life of Miami and all that, which
if I'd been there earlier in my years, maybe I
would have liked it more. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I was definitely not a spring I wasn't a young
dude when I was there at two thousand and nine,
but I was young enough to think about going to
wet wild. Okay, I can see that wet and wild
from our hotel here. Maybe I'm gonna go take on
this ten story slide and see how that goes. So
we'll both be out tomorrow. And that brings us to
the point of World Series Game seven being replayed right

(03:13):
here at three pm tomorrow. Listen and relive as the
Dodgers be come back to back World champions for the
first time in franchise history. We'll have it here on
A five seventy. It'll also be on the A five
seventy LA Sport. How the hell does that happen? What
Pauldy Podesta who destroyed, absolutely destroyed the Dodgers when he

(03:36):
was here under Frank McCourt. And yeah, here you see.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Four oh five?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
How you see that top one sixteen to twenty five,
a lot of Cleveland Brown's been playing. Draft Baker Mayfield
number one overall, playing pretty well. Decide to uh, give
to Shaun Watson a fully guaranteed deal while send it
a bunch your first round picks down to Houston. Things
going well in Cleveland the last ten years under Paul

(04:05):
de Podesta.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
The only thing I can think of is there severely
underpaying him to run the Colorado Rockies.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
I understand there is some cachet as he was on
the front end with the o Epstein of the analytics.
I'm an ivy leaguer. I think Paul is like a
Harvard guy or something like that. I'm using math to
help build your team without money and that sort of stuff.
But man, he was the guy behind is Kate's in there.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
He's not.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Shoot. I can't remember the signings, but man, they were
not good. All right, Sorry, I get distracted. Easy Game
seven World Series. You're gonna hear it right here, Friday.
It is brought to imparted by Bank of America, the
official bank of the Los Angeles Dodgers. We got McK cronin.
He's going to join us in the next hour. This
hour Don McLean and Donn I believe you have the
word of the day.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
I do his word. The word of the day.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Word of the day is kicker. The Rams yesterday signed
former Missouri placekicker Harrison MeVis Or Mevs to their practice squad.
Joshua Carty, who has been struggling, could say that yeah.
He recently missed a field goal and an extra point
in the win over the Saints last Sunday. Overall, Cardy

(05:21):
has made just ten of his fifteen field goal attempts.
He's also missed three extra points. Boo, So who is
Harrison MeVis tell Us played four years at Missouri. He
has bounced around with a few teams on the practice squad.
He played in the UFL his senior season in twenty
twenty three, nailed a sixty one yard or to beat

(05:43):
Kansas State. Okay made eighty four percent of his kicks
in four years with the Missouri Tigers, but is better
known as the thicker kicker.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
The thicker kicker, So he's he's a hefty sort of guy.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Five eleven.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Forty three five eleven two forty three.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
He was so popular in Missouri that it was there
that he got a trademark for the Thicker Kicker, and
money met MeVis to protect merchandise including clothing using his
nickname makes sense. Welcome to the Rams practice squad. The
Thicker Kicker.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
How about that? Have you ever heard the Uh So,
Tim Kates, you know, does college football. There's a picture
of it's wearing the number ninety two. Wow, looks like
a nose tackle.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
You certainly don't want to be a single digit number
at that size as a kicker.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
No, that'd be a rough look. Uh ninety two as
a kicker. And he's clocking in at two forty. But
he made a lesty one yarder five eleven. That's impressive.
I don't know if you heard the story. But Tim Kates,
you know, does college football for Compass Media, and I'll
be doing a college football game for Compass Media as

(06:57):
a matter of fact, the Notre Dame Stanford game a
couple of week. It's very excited about that up on
the farm. But Drinkwitz, the head coach of Missouri, he's
got a Missouri game, and so Drinkwitz, you know, at
the end, like I remember one of the first instances
that it happened. I remember Brett Beilamudd joined was on

(07:18):
Petro some money. We were in National Show, and when
he said goodbye, he's like, all right, boys on Wisconsin
hangs up the phone, right. You know a lot of
them do that, but in Missouri it's a callback. It's
like Ohio State, Oh I, oh, Penn State. We are
Penn State. So he he signs off with Tim Cats

(07:41):
from the head coaching interview by saying him I Z
and case is supposed to say co ou, but he didn't. Instead,
it was just dead silence. And we love to speculate
what drink which said to his sid when he hung
up the phone line.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
God damn it.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
I keep saying this m I Z to these guys
and they don't call back.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
I'm tired of doing it. I just did it again, I.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Said, m I Z and I looked like a fool,
and Kate's was not aware that that's what he was
supposed to do, so p and I like, hey, coach,
just as chops. I think I think it would be
okay if you just didn't do it too right. But
that's you know, hey, this is what we do here.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
M I Z z O.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
And you know what I would assume all the local interviews.
He does, Yeah, you know, you say m I Z
to the local ABC affiliate and they're gonna give you
ze ou.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Okay, So the s I D who are whoever is
facilitating the interview needs to tell Tim Case. Hey, look,
he's gonna say m I Z.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
You need to say zou or else I'm gonna get
in a lot of trouble here. All right, I got
your coach shrink. You need to you need to call
back or I'm gonna get in trouble. All right, and
he says m I Z. Damn he didn't say it again.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
I feel I's an idiot. Here we go.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Your number of the day.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Here's my number. Number of the day.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Number of the day is five. I'm gonna do it again.
And last week was a disaster. I won Thursday Night Football.
I felt great. And then chasing what had been a
theme of the season. The favorites have been absolutely cleaning
house all season long. So I'm like, all right, you
know what, tired of these three and ones, these two

(09:20):
and two's. I'm gonna lean in and I'm gonna take
all favorites zero and four chased it.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
This is the time of year where it flips.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Exactly where you think you got it all figured out,
and because it's the NFL and parody reigned Supreme, you
get punched right in the poots. So after doing that
last year, I'm not gonna freak out and take a
bunch of dogs. Last week was like all dogs. However,
I am gonna start out, believe it or not, and
this is not something that is in my constitution.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
The silver and black are bad.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
I'm gonna take the points. I'm gonna take the Raiders
and the eight and a half, and you know what,
hold out till kick because that thing could get above
nine the way this thing has been moving the last
twenty four hours. Do I have a lot of faith
in a Raider team that just traded their best wide receiver. No,
but the Raiders should have won in Jacksonville. They lost
to a sixty eight yard field goal and either Geno

(10:15):
not seen or just not being able to complete a
pass in a two point conversion at the buzzer that
would have won the game to a wide open receiver. Meanwhile,
the Broncos, and they are living dangerously. I am not
denying seven and two. They are on top of the
AFC West, A game ahead of the Chargers. I'm not
saying it's a fluke, but last week they're losing to

(10:40):
Davis Mills and the Houston Texans after CJ. Stroud was
shutting him out before he got concussed, and they ended
up getting a late TD to win. Eighteen fifteen. They
somehow score thirty three points in the fourth quarter against
the Giants after being shut out nineteen to nothing through
three quarters. They won thanks to a missed extra point.

(11:00):
By the way, in that game, somehow they get a
Jets team they can only score thirteen points against, and
Justin Fields completes nine passes and gets sacked nine times.
They needed a late rally to win that game. They
were losing eleven to ten until the final couple minutes,
so I suspect the Broncos will win, but I do

(11:21):
think the Raiders are good enough to not lose by
more than nine points. I will take the eight and
a half and like that line should be more.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
So I agree with you, Matt, like looking at the
records of what's happened, like, give me eight and a half. Yeah,
I'll take Denver should be like eleven or twelve.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
I would love that even more no doubt, but I
think the oddsmakers know, like, yeah, they're living kind of dangerously.
Let's see if we can bait some of these people
into taking the Broncos, because that's ultimately what they're doing
with the lot, right, I can get fifty to fifty,
That's exactly what you're saying, take all the juice Colts.
Here we go to the Sunday Games. The Colts turn
the ball over six times. Six times. They had turned

(12:01):
it over five and were still trailing the Steelers by
just a score of seventeen to seven. They still had
Daniel Jones pass for over three hundred yards, only lost
by seven. They still outgained the Steelers three sixty eight
to two twenty five. They still held Pittsburgh under two
hundred and thirty yards, turned them over on downs once
and forced five punts. Point being, Colts are not turning

(12:24):
it over another six times, even though the Falcons defense
has been solid. Yes, international games are wild. This one's
in Berlin. It's gonna be winter weather like forty degrees ish.
Both of these teams play indoors Atlanta obviously in the
South in the Mercedes Benz Dome. The Colts indoors at

(12:45):
Lucas Oil Stadium. I'm gonna lay the six and a
half points and take the Colts. I'm gonna get the
points and take the Patriots down in Tampa. The Buccaneers
are an absolute mash unit right now. Everybody is injured. Obviously,
we know Mike Evans is out for the year. They're
down half of their offensive line. They're down Bucky Irving,

(13:06):
They're down as the defensive backs. Rashaan Woodson Wisdom out
for the year, they're down tight ends. It's just it's
been a rough go for the Bucks. So I'll take
the red hot Patriots on their seven game six game
win streak to knock off the Buccaneers. Give me the
two and a half points there. I'm gonna take the Panthers.
I'm actually interesting. I'm gonna lay five and a half

(13:28):
points and take the Panthers over the Saints. The Saints
were in sell off. Mul Rashid Shaheed traded at the deadline.
They're trying to figure out what they have and Tyler
Shuck they traded their starting left guard to the Chargers.
And then I will also lay six and a half
and take the Seahawks over the Cardinals. So three favorites Colts, Seahawks, Panthers,
one dog the Patriots, and tonight I will take the

(13:50):
dog in the Raiders. Try to get back because I'm
not gonna be hear tomb try to get back on
the right side of it. After going zero and four
on Sunday, after starting out one in zero for the week.
On Thursday Night, Ronny, this.

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Is a song of the Day, petya.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Today's song of the Day. It's called Friends from led Zeppelin,
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BJS in so Ritos right off the six oh five
at South Street down. I mentioned a little bit of basketball,
but I wanted to get if you don't mind totally.
U never up to up to you how much you
would want to share. But you work with a lot
of different due she played for a number of different teams,
which means she had a bunch of different teammates. So

(17:05):
Lebron announced well, the team announced this morning that he
is now in contact basketball activity. Gonna be reevaluated by
the team physicians in one to two weeks. So he
is not playing, but he's back. He's got a sciatica injury.
You see the way the team is playing, you kind

(17:27):
of know the future of this team. I don't think
anybody would argue that Luca in twenty twenty five is
a better player than Lebron James. We know what it
means when Lebron is on the basketball court. How do
you kind of like, how do you see this thing going?
Let's say in two weeks the Lakers are I don't know,
fifteen or fourteen and four like what I'm not saying

(17:48):
he's not of course he's gonna play, But what happens
to a team that's maybe found a pretty good rhythm
in rotations and what Lebron James does to that.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
What we don't know, Matt is like the conversation though,
between Lebron and Luca and JJ Reddick and whoever else
about what this is going to look like? Are they
doing like the Kawhi Leonard where they're just going to
keep holding them and hold them and then maybe in
like January starts playing. I could see that happening.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
And that might not be a bad thing, and well,
Lebron have some humility in the sense that, look, this
is Luca's show. Now, I'm just here to try and
help us win a championship and whatever that means, you know,
less touches, less shots, less whatever, and then that way
it works. I don't think at this stage of his career, Lebron,

(18:37):
as great as he's been, as much as he's won
and all that, that he's going to walk back in
there and be like, all right, Luke, I know you're
averaging forty and we're playing really well, but this is
my thing.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
I don't think that's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Do you think it happens subconsciously? Just you know, I
mean players, players are right. Is there too much muscle
memory there where it is hard for him to you.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Well, here's what Lebron doesn't want to risk. Okay, this
late in his career. Let's say by the time he
comes back, the Lakers are fourteen and four. Okay, he
comes back and now they're not winning as much. That's
going to look bad on him. Sure, So I think

(19:21):
that's why I say I think there's gonna be a
little bit of humility there with Lebron in saying Okay,
we look like we're playing really well. We are playing
really well. How do I fit into this to make
it better? It's not about me. It's about this Lakers
team continuing to win and hopefully be in a position

(19:41):
to go deep into the playoffs in April.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Looking at let's see last year he averaged thirty five minutes. Again,
every year that he's been with the Lakers, he has
averaged Well, let's just go the last four thirty seven,
thirty six, thirty five, thirty five. Are we talk like?
Are we talking twenty minutes a game? Are we talking?

Speaker 3 (19:59):
I think gets And that's why I said, like time
and score. If they need to play thirty five one night, great,
If they don't, then he doesn't. That would be my guess. Look, listen,
I don't know anything about this. That's why those conversations
I'm sure have been taking place and will continue to.
But again, I just think that it's Luka Doncic's show now, right,

(20:25):
and Lebron is just there to accentuate it moving forward.
That's how I would approach it.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
I think for the NBA, especially in the playoffs, becomes
such a final five minutes league, you know, And that's
kind of what. I guess I'm not necessarily as interested
in the you know, how many minutes or what it
looks like. And to me, it's the final five minutes
of a tight game. What does that look like?

Speaker 3 (20:51):
There's no doubt that he would have an impact on that, right,
no doubt whatsoever. And maybe at that point.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
I mean, he was All NBA Second team last year.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
I mean, if we're talking about Lebron in his legacy, like,
how great would it be for him to win a
championship in what seems like his last year, right, and
he's I'm sure well aware of that. But we're in
a playoff game or a playoff series. To your point,
last five minutes, Now it might become Lebron's team Again

(21:21):
you think so?

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Maybe maybe, Well that's tough, And again I think it's
a recency bias in b just how fun it is
to watch Luca play basketball and how clutch he has
been in those moments. When you think about taking Dallas
to the NBA finals, some of those shots that he made,
and it's not just that one run, but pretty much

(21:42):
every playoffs here.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
The only thing you have to think about. And I
know everybody's back on the Lakers party train here because
they're off to a great start. But you just mentioned it.
Dallas in the finals they got rolled.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Why ran out of gas?

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Well, ran out of gas. But also Dauncits on the defensively. Yeah,
they targeted him every time. Yeah, every time. And so
it was Boston right. Yeah, so we'll see how that
plays out once we get to the playoffs. But look,
if i'm JJ Reddick, and JJ Reddick seems to be
a smart guy to me, I think to a lot

(22:18):
of people, yeah, I think he could figure out how
this is gonna work once Lebron comes back. I do,
but it's gonna take some humility from probably everyone, but
mostly Lebron.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Much more important. Don have you seen the Jalen Brown
stuff with the hair? Yeah, yeah, the painted head last night,
lowered his head to drive to the hoop and playing
the a jersey that you're somewhat familiar with. They were
the Bullets when you were playing for him. But the red,
white and blue of the Wizards left a little spray
pain imprint that never happened to me, not to you.

(22:51):
But did you have any guys in the locker room
that had some hair stuff, whether it's the shake to
fill it in, whether it was the gel to kind
of get it to cover up something going into the game.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
It's a different game. It's a different time, Matt, it is.
It's a different time.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
No.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
I don't think there was any.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Of that, None of that. No, did you have the
big thing when I was playing someone doing corsa?

Speaker 3 (23:16):
No, one was doing corn rows and then everybody was doing.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
And would they bring someone in to do it like
before the games that would be in the end.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
No, those guys did it like on their own time.
They never asked you if you wanted to do it. No, No,
because I think it takes a long time.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, well I think your your head's got to get
used to it. You know, it hurts get that thing
pulled as tight as it is down there on the
on the scalp. Yeah, what would you do if some
dude was was trying to drive to the hoop and
left his spray painted.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Head, he would he would have heard about it.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Another one for you, don another one for you, and
maybe we can get into this a little bit deeper.
But I was thinking about this because you got today
was a lot of players got there either qualifying off
run Baseball option for Max Muncy was picked up. Free
agency officially opens today. So, guys, are how many different

(24:08):
teams you played for in your career?

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Six?

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Six, Heat, six ers, Bullets.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
I forget so long ago.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
So it was bullets, yeah, Nuggets, sixers, Nets, Oh, nets,
that's what I forgot.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
And then heat and then heat.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah, so five different teams, right, so five or six?

Speaker 3 (24:31):
I forgot Seattle too, Seattle, then heat?

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Soasey forget Seattle. The damn shame that we forget Seattle?

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Right?

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Did you ever have a stressful offseason? Did you ever
have a are they gonna? Did you ever have a
team option that you didn't know whether or not they
were going to pick up?

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah? So so this actually this is interesting. So when
I played, there was no rookie scale, right, You could
sign a two year deal or a fifty year deal
if you wanted. So some guys signed five years, six years,
eight years. I had a five. I had a five
year contract with an opt out after three for the

(25:11):
team or for you my option, your option. Okay, And
so if you remember my second year, I was most
improved player. And so back then you could extend. I
think it's still the same. You could extend a year
before on your rookie deal. You could extend a year
before your contract's up. Right, there was no options at

(25:33):
that point, meaning now SOD so a rookie scale contract.
Now you're one guaranteed, your two guarant this is first rounders.
You're one guaranteed. You're two guaranteed. Then third year team option,
fourth year team option, fourth year team option. So you
can sign an extension after they pick up your third

(25:56):
year option, so you still have your fourth year salary
on your rook scale deal, and then your extension kicks
in year five. So I had one where I'm coming
off the most improved player, but I had that team
option after the third year and we were talking about
an extension. Bullets didn't want to do it. They actually

(26:17):
held me out of training camp because they were trying
to make a trade with the Celtics, who had an offer,
a big offer on the table for an extension after
my third year, and they happened. They couldn't make the trade.
They couldn't make it happen, so I had to play
out my third year, got traded to Denver, played out

(26:38):
my fourth year in Denver, and then I was a
free agent and then that year, wasn't that stressful because
I knew your agents, if they know what they're doing,
aren't tell them, was my agent at the time. They
already kind of knew the market, so I kind of
knew what I was looking at and then signed with Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Did they know you were Did Denver want you back?

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yes, but they were going through some front office stuff.
The coach had gotten fired. They offered me a three
year deal and about the same money, but Philly offered
me five years.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
So Philly it is.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
I took the five years.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Were you you were still Were they still wearing those
sweet Denver unis the that looked like the Tetris board
or no, they were onto the mountains.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
We were onto yeah, and said nuggets like blue and
like uh like like uh burgundy exactly.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
I remember, oh yeah, yeah, the Matumbo. Yeah, it was
the Yeah, it was the Matumbo upset ate. One upset
of the was that the Warriors. It was a year
before I got there, right, that was Warriors, right, that
they knocked off they were they ate in the war
They knocked off the Sonics. That's right. It was the
George Carl Sonics.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
So I was there the following year. That was Matumbo, Mock.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Moode, right, dul Rove, Jalen Rose, Lafonso. Lafonso was hurt,
bright stiff death. Yeah, I was a good team. Yeah,
Now that was remind me, was it the was it
coming off the Sonics trip to the finals or the
Sonics went to the finals the next year, because I

(28:12):
remember it was like back to back.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
I think I want to say Seattle went to the
finals the next year.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, that's what it was. I think it was a
bad deal for carl and everyone was freaking out the
next year, yeah, because they played the bull the Bulls, Yeah,
and that was the ninety six.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yeah, so it was the year after that night. I
was in Denver ninety five, ninety six, or maybe it
was ninety seven, the ninety four ninety five.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
I think they played the Jazz in ninety eight, ninety seven,
ninety eight back to back finals, so ninety six would
have been.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
So I must have been in Denver ninety four, ninety five. Yeah,
it was thirty years ago. Yeah, that was a while
a little while ago.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
But that was it. That was the only stress you
ever had, and it wasn't even really that much stress.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Yeah, it was and I mean I wanted that deal
to happen with Boston just because you get to play
for the freaking soul, to play for the Celtics, but
also that that deal ended up being better than the
deal I got when I was a free agent, just
because I was coming off that most improved year. That's
why it was. Bird already retired. Yes, yeah, I missed

(29:11):
Bird by one year. Yeah, yeah, but you got there's
a couple of things I missed. I missed Bird, you
miss Magic. I played one year or two years in
old Chicago Stadium, which is pretty cool. Yeah, and then
the old Boston Garden I played in right for one
one or two years, three years something like that.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Their home games were at the Spectrum right in Philly.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yeah, No, first year I was there was they had
just built the well, I don't know what it's called now,
but as well as Fargo.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
As Fargo, and then it became the f U Center, Yeah,
the f u C First Union.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, that was that building had just been built and
it was Iverson's rookie year, right. So no, never, I
played in the Spectrum before I got to Philly, right, Yeah,
as a as a road team. Yeah, so you never.
But you played magic?

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Right? Did you play or did you not get magic?
Because he I got magic for a year, I believe.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
I forget the time.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
What ninety ninety one? He was still in the league.
Ninety two is when? So my first year in the
league was ninety two ninety three. Yeah, so he I
believe retired either, Yeah, he retired. That's a good question.
I think it was ninety two ninety three.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah, I want to say to get some one year.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, you retired at ninety three? Yeah, pretty great?

Speaker 3 (30:35):
All right, sold, I don't even remember that stuff anymore.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, right, best player you ever faced besides Michael Jordan. Hmm,
well it's Michael Jordan. Yeah, that's why I said besides right,
I'd have to think about that one. Right, We'll let
you think about it. Make Cronin fantastic, Kevin donn in here,
Make Cronin will join us at the bottom of or
actually I think we're suppos to join us little bit

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early in the four o'clock hour. More questions for Don McClain.
See he's the guy that always asks the questions. Now
the tables are turn that's right, exactly right. We'll be
back as we keep marching toward five pm again Mick
cronin Ucla versus Pepperdine at poly Pavilion Tomorrow night. He'll
check in with us right around four fifteen ish.

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(32:11):
more important call Tomorrow night. Tomorrow night, Don McClain, Big
ten Network with the aforementioned Carlow for the Ucla Pepperdine
are two Alma maters going head to head.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Did you care to wager on Tomorrow's game? Actually I
can't wager, but we have a friendly wager. Yeah, I
feel really good guessing the line is thirty. Okay, whatever
the line is, I'll take the line, and we can
we can wager. We can wager a couple of drinks,
not one, but a couple, okay, a couple two tree drinks.
Whatever the line is. You do know that, you do
know that Mick wasn't happy with his team's effort on Monday,

(32:47):
which I think is going to factor into tomorrow night.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
I would assume it is. I would assume it is.
But I'm not a man to turn on a wager.
You know, if I always tell people you want to
wake up a major we'll figure out a way to
find a middle ground and make it work. If you
put something in my hand and tell me to take it,
I'm gonna take it. It's just the kind of guy
I've always been. So Yes, consider the wager on does
anybody do we do? We still have any outstanding waitress here?
Because you are a wager guy? Does Dave o you dinner?

(33:11):
Anybody owe does p o you dinner? Does anybody still
owe you?

Speaker 3 (33:15):
I stopped doing my yellow pad. I used to have
a yellow pad of people that owed me money or
owed me bets or something better.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
You're a wager guy.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah, but no, I don't do the yellow pad anymore.
So I don't think so. I believe.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
I think I've told you this story. I believe that
Pepperdine played you my freshman year. I think it was
your last year. Doug CHRISTI yes, the Doug Christie team
came to Pauli and played. And I remember we made
the track because we were all super into sports obviously,
and it was like the coolest thing ever, Like, holy crap,
we're watching pat like Firestone field House. Great, it's Firestone

(33:53):
field House. The modern jay. The modern day gym is
uh way nicer than Firestone field House. When we were there,
you know, they're building a new complex. It's almost done.
They needed it desperately. Yeah, I mean we worked out.
The students worked out in the same gym as the athletes,
and it was woeful, Like it had to be the
worst train.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
I used to go to basketball camps when I was
under ten years old at Firestone and it's still the same.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yes, excly, I'm fifty five right, exactly the same. So,
and I'll say this, like when we were there, we
as freshmen, we made a point to rally everyone on
campus to go to basketball games. And look, we were
drunks and we would say, listen, we don't give a
damn about the no drinking rules. Come to our suite

(34:40):
at dorm row and we're gonna freaking pound beers in
our dorm rooms. And then we're gonna walk down the
hill and we're gonna go to Firestone And it was great,
like we had that place packed. It was Doug Christie.
That year was the year they went to the tournament
and it was the Doug Christy Penny Hardaway first round
game that was like crazy competitive that they just barely lost.
But the point is it was cool, and I love

(35:02):
that they're still doing it. That Pepperdine plays at Paul
or Loyal Not every year, State, not every year.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
No, they they It seems like you said, I've been
doing UCLA games for years and years, but yeah, it
seems like Pepperdine's once every four or five years long
Beach State. You know, they kind of mix them.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Meylamrima and UC Irvine, UCSB, get all those teams in there. Yeah,
Mick is gonna join us, so because we're getting word
that he wants to check in a little bit earlier
than we thought. We'll step aside here. That was a
quick one. Get you a little bit of quick hits.
Whatever Mick wants mc kits. So we are on his schedule.
He's the centerpiece of the show. Don McLain in for Pe,

(35:43):
Petros and Money. Mick cronin coming up next hour.