November 10, 2025 • 45 mins
Multiple Dodgers got tattoos in an interesting area after winning the World Series. Could the Dodgers pursue Robert Suarez in free agency? Matthew Stafford is putting up epic numbers so far this season - but does it rival great runs by previous LA legends?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, here we go, Fred Rogan Rodney Pete at
a five seventy LA Sports Happy Monday to you. We
have a three hour program and we're looking forward to
spending it with you. Eric Dickerson ed Rodney jumps on
at one o'clock. How was your weekend? Weekend was very good, Fred,
very good. Didn't do a whole lot, sat around watching
football and starting to get back into football mode now, Fred,
(00:25):
because I know we talked last week about how we
were not ready for baseball to be over with. I
kept watching highlights as.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Well all weekend, but slowly football is getting in my
brain and I'm still not into the basketball thing.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yet mean either.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
As a matter of fact, interesting, I watched the Lakers
obviously because we do this, not into it yet, just
can't get into it yet. A couple of weeks, I'm
sure we'll all be when we need to be, and
we will talk football starting to one with Eric when
he gets on the show. Boy. Matthew Stafford great yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Mayn he is maan if it ended today, he'd definitely
be the MVP. The way he's playing four straight games
of four touchdown passes. I think he's only what throwing
three picks this year, twenty something touchdowns. He is uh,
he's on fire. But still I think around the country
he still flies a little bit under the radar.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
That's fair, that's fair. Gary Klein thinks he's in the
division of Clayton Kershaw, Wayne Gretzky. If he continues like this,
love Gary Klein, No he's not love Gary. No, No
he's not Kobe. No he is not. But we'll get
into that coming up later that way, not way yet, Yeah,
all right, because we do have withdrawals. Oh, by the way,
(01:40):
and we should mention this right off the top. Our sympathies,
our heartfelt sympathies go out to Alex Vessi and his wife. Yes,
last week they posted what happened. They lost their baby
daughter in October twenty sixth, and I think it's very
understandable that that takes precedence over everything. That's why he
(02:02):
stepped out of the World Series. And that's something, honestly,
you learn to deal with it, but you never get
over it. If you've lost a loved one, and especially
parents of a newborn, you learn to deal with it,
but you never get over it. So our sympathies go
out to the Bessiers.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, and I think.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You know from what I understand as well, that the
it wasn't even a question for the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I think they they they.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Basically forced him off the roster, or didn't intentionally put
him on the roster, because he needed to deal with this,
this tragic situation, because they know everybody I think inside
that clubhouse knows Alex Vessia would have tried to find
a way to come back and play and pitch and
do whatever he could to help the team win a
(02:51):
World Series. But the Dodgers took it out of his hands,
and I thought it was a great move by them,
because you don't want to a person going through that
to have to make any kind of decisions should I play,
should I not play? If what are you know, what
are the implications, what are the ramifications? And they took
it out of his hands and and really really thought
(03:13):
big picture and the big scope of things in life.
Like you mentioned, Fred, some things are much more important
and it was much more important for him to be
with his family then playing in the World Series.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
So it was a great gesture.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Also, I just want to reiterate how it was pretty
cool of the of the of the Toronto Blue Jays
bullpen all wearing fifty one on their hats as well
during the during the World Series.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
That was very classic. They got our sympathies to Alex
and his wife. All right, So as we move now
into the off season for the Dodgers, everybody's everywhere. Have
you noticed that everybody is everywhere? Somebody set in my
house over the weekend. What's the middle name of your dog?
(03:59):
I think gonna call call him Miggy. I mean, they're
gonna be people named after Meggie, Animals named.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
After meg nicknames Miggie.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, Miguel is gonna be a big name, and Miggi
is gonna be the big, big nickname for all a
lot of newborns and the born in November.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Fred, Uh, there would be a lot of Miggy's. But
especially right about dogs. Dogs.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
You think about the dogs, whether you rescue one or
you get a new born dog or baby or whatever.
I could see a number of new dogs being named Miggie.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
If I got a new I'd call him Meggi immediately.
Ye would then be a question.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
But in the meantime, as as the tour continues and
guys start to begin to enjoy their offseason. Dave Roberts
was at the University of Alabama. Dave Roberts is everywhere.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah, yeah, he's soaking it in and I love it.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
You know, we got the the uh.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Our foreign players are going back home, spending time. We
talked about, you know, Kim and getting harassed in Korea.
I'm sure, uh, you know, Yamamoto and Otani and Suzaki
have probably made a trip back to Japan, and I
know there's obligations still for a lot of those guys.
So maybe they haven't all left yet, but I know
some of them have. And and again some of you know,
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some of the other guys are just on tour. I
think Mookie's hosting the Big MLB Awards, I think this
this week in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
So yeah, they're dancing with the stars.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Jimmy Kimmel the Laker games, you see Taller Glass now
got a little game to him.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah, right before the Laker game.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
They were all at the Laker game, and he, you know,
he dunked a couple and then stepped back and hit
the three, and no, he got a.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Little form to him.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I think that's that was That was his main sport
growing up, and you know, being six eight, obviously he
played a little basketball. And I think he said his
brother is a big basketball player too. Never played baseball.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Well, you know what, Mark Walter owning both Now they
could call Tyler Glass now went.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, call him in, you know, fill in
for you know, a couple of weeks of guys go
down or something like that.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, when he goes down, come on in, Tyler Glass.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Now, come on, Tyler. Do your think in.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
High school you play two sports? Why can't you play two? Now?
Exactly exactly Fred Weeklings these days, right, get in here?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, all right?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
So how do you commemorate a World Series? What do
you do now? As a fan? And look, we've seen
it on Instagram. People have posted pictures of the World
Series trophy. People have posted pictures of the LA logo,
and everybody wants to commemorate it in their own special way.
So if you're looking online, it's very odd. Mickey Rojas
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is right next to someone's butt, Miggy, I'm sorry, my mistake.
Kyk is right next to someone's butt, and there is
a trophy tattooed on this person's butt. So you think, well,
that's great. A fan got a tattoo of the World
Series Trophy on their butt. But Key K's face is
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right there to a point where it's like a little
too close for comfort, a little odd if you really,
what are you doing? So then everybody tried to figure
out who had that tattoo, Who put the tattoo of
the World Series trophy on their butt? The answer is
Kirby Yates. Boom, Kirby Yates. Let's be honest, probably not
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his best year, probably not his best year now, but
I've signed a one year deal. He was on the team,
got hurt, to be fair, got hurt near the end,
but he was on the team, so he had the
World Series trophy tattooed on his butt. And Mickey Rojas
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explained it, Who is Kei k A sitting next to?
When it comes to this picture, you.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Just open a different box right here, because I gotta
say I'm not that I'm not that guy. But I
had an astat too as well before Kirby Gates, who's
there laying down with his Kirby and his trophy on
one of his checks. I was first. He obviously did
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a Kirby because his name and he wants to get
that with the trophy, and I wanted to get something
else and I got.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
It and it's here. I well, what is it?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
So?
Speaker 4 (08:40):
So court is my favorite beer and I always wanted
to I always told the guys, if we win the Wars,
here is I gonna get a saporoken on my on
my budget? So I got I got a phrase that
goes w S Champs in Japanese. And then on the
me is a battle of support?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Can that's on your ass? Somebody as yes, what the
hell does your wife think of it?
Speaker 4 (09:08):
She won't say. She wasn't really happy about that. She say, Okay,
now you're gonna you're gonna have to get that hiding
and you're gonna have to be with me for the
rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
And that was on Chris Roses podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, my buddy, the way Chris said it, on your ass?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
So you got the support? Did he say he got
the support with the trophy Japanese writing?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I know World Series Champs in Japanese and uh, and
but he didn't have Uh, he didn't have the actual
trophy because what didn't Kirby Yates have the trophy along
with the character Kirby from the video.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Game, Yes, the video game, Kirby actually hoisting up the
World Series trophy.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Right, So if you really, you know, we're any kind
of detective, you kind of could figure out who who's
ass that was next to Kyk.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Here's the thing. I didn't want to figure it out.
I didn't want to know whose house that was. As
a matter of fact, it was borderline disturbing seeing that.
I mean that should be for select people, not key
K's face two inches from Kirby Yate's hass, but the
big smile on it and then the trophy. Yeah, well
(10:29):
we all know, we all know when gotten to know
Kyk over the years, and we know he doesn't as
he he quite often points out, he doesn't give a
you know what. Even had hats made and shirts and
we got a few of those hats, those those key
K hernandez, we don't we don't give a blank hats
and had t shirts made and everything made up.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
And it became a very cool catch catchphrase for Keik
and something synonymous synonymous with him, and he and he
said it at the celebration this year as well. But yeah,
I don't know if and for what I understand too
Kirby Yates is kind of, you know, let's to let
his hair down a little bit too, So those guys
taking that picture together. I first wondered if Kirby knew
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that KK was gonna post it and put it out
there for the world to see, and did he ask permission?
But then hearing about Kirby Yates and kind of likes
to have a little fun himself, that I'm sure Kirby
was okay with that.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
How do you think Kirby describes his year with the Dodgers?
Kirby won the World Series? Talk about your year, Well,
how do you think you would describe it?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
It sucked?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I think you would say it just like that. Yeah,
I had a terrible year. I didn't pitch up to
my ability. I let the team down in certain situations,
and I didn't have the year I wanted to and
didn't contribute like I wanted to. But we still won
the World Series and we still got a rank. So
I'm very very thankful and happy about it. That's how
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you respect.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
I think that'd be a great response. That'd be the
kind of guy I want to bring back if it
was cheap and he could pitch, if he was honest
and said, look, hey, I didn't get it done this
year for you, and I'm not pleased about it. I'm
glad we won. I'd like to make it right. I
like that. But on the topic of relievers, here we go. Well,
hot stove, is it sizzling yet?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Mean?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Cizling soon?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Already it's already cizling all right.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
So Bleacher Report says Robert Suarez of the Podreys four years,
sixty million dollars, four years, sixty million dollars. And the
Bleacher Report does link the Padre closer to the Dodgers. Now,
keep in mind, the Podreis got another closer last year.
They acquired a closer from the Age at the end
(12:48):
of the season. Yeah, that hundred and fourth mile an hour.
What was his name, Miller? Miller.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, yeah, they they got him. They thought he was
gonna be the difference maker for them. It didn't work
out so well, but but yeah, yeah, he's swords is
available at fifteen million per year.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
No, you want me to think about it. It's not
one of those long term deals like you hate Fred.
It's only a four year deal and it's sixty million
dollars fifteen million per year. No, absolutely not. I would
not like myself into a closer again, say a lot
of Tanner Scott. I would never do that again. Two years,
(13:35):
that's it, and two years stops.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Look, relievers are like even if he's a younger, he's
even if he's a younger.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, reliever, I'm not doing it. Two years stops. I'm
not doing it. I got burned here for me one
shame on you for me, twice shame on me. I
got burned. I'm not doing that again.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
He said that better than George Bush did.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Thank you, h I would never do that again. Four
years Tanner Scott now to be fair. Next year he
could be lights out. So for three of the four
years he could be the cy young winner as a reliever,
he could be that good. But after year one of that,
no way, no way. The Dodgers didn't have a closer.
(14:20):
That was their closer, and the other one was Kirby
Yates World Series Trophy tattoo. As Kirby Yates and Tanner
Scott neither one of them were there at the end.
So there is no way I would do that. I
understand you have to have a closer. Well, Rokie filled
that role. This year, and ye have the Dodgers need somebody,
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But you gotta think it's Tanner Scott going into camp.
If it's not Tanner Scott, then you are way overpaying him,
way overpaying him. If he's not going to get their name,
he's certainly going to give it, get every opportunity to
redeem himself, don't you think.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
You know?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
But because of the contract and because of what you know,
one year, yeah, it's he had a he had a
very very bad year, but his body of work first
of all, warned the Dodgers to go out and pay
him what they did. So I don't think you can
just write him off and say, oh, he had a
bad year with us, so we're done with him and
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not give him another opportunity or next year to maybe
you know, come in fully healthy.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
And and and.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Maybe some mechanical issues that he's worked on or will
work on in the off season that he gets it
right again. But I'm with you on on the year
part of it. When it comes to reliever, if it's
a starting pitcher and he's young enough, uh, you know,
maybe you go for it. But as a reliever because
they are so hot and cold and it's such a new,
(15:50):
you know, nuanced type of position that you know, four
years does seem seem very long, especially in this day
and age when when you feel like relievers are especially
closers are interchangeable. I mean, look at the Dodgers over
the last what four or five years, they've had interchangeable closers.
You know, it was twenty twenty, Julio was the closer.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Right Julio. Julio who's no longer here.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
With us, was the closer, you know, and then we
had last year was the closer ended up being the
closer for us, and then this year obviously Sazaki and
then Yamamoto came in and closed the game out. So, yeah,
four years does feel a little bit a little bit
long for a for a reliever closer when you can
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put those guys, those starters in that role and let
them go.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Sometimes relief pitchers are goalies in hockey. When they're hot,
they're hot. When they're not, they're not pretty simple hockey
goalie can be great, but you know, once in a while,
when you're standing there staring at one hundred mile an
hour piece of rubber slapped at you doesn't go your way.
That happens relievers the same way. Their mentalities very different.
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And Mariano Rivera is not coming out of the bullpen.
You know that that's not gonna happen now. Kenny Jansen
and his prime ain't charging in.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
What about Edwin Diaz, he's on the market.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I know if in fact they want the closer, And
again everybody says they have to get a closer, they
need a closer. When you look at it like that,
what you're in essence saying is Tanner Scott's not going
to be there for you. That's what it says. And
maybe they're saying, look, that was such an aberration that
we've got to do something just in case, just get
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a little stronger in the back. But if they really
believed in Tanner Scott, would they be saying we have
to get a closer. No, we need a reliever. We
needed a leverage guy, but not a closer. So that
tells you something. But whoever they sign on, whatever they do,
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there is no way I wouldn't even pay the closer
fifteen million a year now, I wouldn't. Why you see
what happened. If they could get out of that Tanner
Scott deal, He's got three more years. If they could
get out of that deal right now, would they? I
(18:15):
bet they would? Do you think so, yeah, given the years?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Or do you think they believe that he this past
year was an admiration and that that's not the Tanner
Scott that we know and feel like he can be.
So let's give him another year. I don't think they
cut bait with him. I don't think they would because
they paid him for a reason and Dodgers don't miss
very often. They have done their homework on this guy
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and last year was just, you know, chalk it up
in one of those years that he had a bad one.
But is this indicative of what he's going to be
in the future in the next three years. I tend
to don't think so, and I'm hoping and praying no.
But I think the Dodgers look at it as well, Hey,
one year does not make a career, So get back
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out there, fix what you got to fix, and we
still believe in you. But I don't think they I
don't think they cut bait, and.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I think if they could, they would, they'd renegotiate. Yeah,
we'll bring your back with what because we're not getting
our value out of that. We are not getting fair
market value. When he goes out and goes goes gets
goes lights out. Next year, then does he go back
and say, okay, let's renegotiate again. Do my let them? Yes,
go ahead, great, we'll worry about it. Then we will
(19:33):
worry about it.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Then you'd be a terrible GM Fred.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Oh no, I if I okay, if I was a
jam in today's world, I would do a good job.
But I have a different philosophy. No contract should be
more than two years.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, you would, you would be Yeah, you would be moneyball, right,
your moneyball a combination of moneyball Fred and and and
George Steinbrenner. No, no, no, you wouldn't know what to do,
and I would. Your teams would make the playoffs every
three years. But no, but wouldn't go past the first round.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I wouldn't loadball you. I would not lowball anybody. But
these are two years. You're paid for performance. Okay, you
had a great year, I'm gonna pay seventy million dollars.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Right, and you have a great two years. Okay, so
I'm going to I'm a free agent. Now I'm gone.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
That's right, Open it up. Do you can make even
more from us. We can pay even more now. No,
but I'm leaving. I'm going to the Yankee. I'm going
to the Mets, I'm going to the Cubs. I'm going
to the film I'm going somewhere else. You could have
had me for five years.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
You could have had me for five years locked up,
and we could have rolled this thing and run it
back for five years. Yeah, you chose the cheaper two
year route. And so yeah, I'm not going to give
you the option of bringing me back because I just
won the cy Young. I won cy Young and you
insulted me by only offered me two years. I gave
you the two years, and I gave you two great ones.
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I'm not giving you anymore.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Okay, I look at it like this, not that I'm
only giving two year deals. That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying that. Just said that, Fred, No, that should
be the rule. You said, I'm not giving more than
two year deal, said that should be the rule. Nobody
gets more than two years. Nobody. You got two years.
Then we go again. The problem with that is marketing
and merch That would slow things down because guys are
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always changing teams. But imagine if every year. It's because
we're gonna give you an off year. You get two
every year you were paid on performance. If you had
a hell of a year, you're gonna make.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Me go again. Here we go with the regulation. The
conversation again, it's the same thing.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
What what's say?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
It's the same argument you have with the regulation regulating teams.
If you have a bad year, you get regulated to
triple A.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yes, you know, do do that model doesn't work here.
I would do that here, And I think the team
that finishes last in the draft should not get the
first draft back. I think you should be penalized for that. Right,
So you'd.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Rather have old Tani have an opportunity to go where
he wants now. He he did his two years here
with the Dodgers, So now it's open season for old Tani.
And now now you've got to overpay. You got to
overpay the Mets to keep him.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, you would have to if the contracts for two years. Yes,
and you'd be okay with that. Yeah, because everybody should
be paid on performance every year. Create new team. No,
you would never win. You would never win a title.
First of all, you would never get quality guys. If
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this was a league wide mandate. Maybe you could.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
But if this is a mandate with you and your organization,
you would not get superstars to come play for you.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
You would not.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
It's no, it's a league mandate. It's a league. Man.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
That's terrible.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Well, yeah, players, old old uss R.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Is that what you want to go back to? Fred,
go back to the communism route.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
If that makes seventy five million dollars a year, I
don't think he's, you know, dealing with communism. If somebody
gets paid like that, so you can't have a bad year.
You can't.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
So you have to expecting guys are being not be human,
So you gotta be. You gotta perform or you your
salary get to cut.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Or goes up. It's based on how you perform. So
there's a baseline. What's that baselines and how much does
it go up? Because you're really you're ready to cut
bait on. I'm gonna cut their salary in half. So
if they're if they have a good year, then it's
their salary doubles. No, after two years, you're gonna make
whatever you want. So we negotiate a two year deal,
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you and me. You make thirty in the first year,
thirty five in the second done, you have two great years.
You're up. You can go anywhere. Caro Rodney. Now I'm
gonna pay a forty million this year to stay with me.
Oh wait a minute, they're gonna pay fifty million. Okay,
they're gonna make fifty million. Okay, I'm gone. Okay, we'll
find somebody. Nine per other guys would go, I'm out
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gonna because he's gonna give me.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
He's gonna give me five years. He's gonna give me
seven years on my contract.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I do that here as a plan. You can't do that.
It's the rule.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Two years.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
It's the rule.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Oh, it's the rule for everybody.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Okay, well and put it like this. We've only been
on the air twenty minutes today. Really disturbing story about
Emmanuel class A, the UH Guardian's closure and what he
was doing involving gambling. We'll talk about it next.
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Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yes he is letting it all hang out, Rodney Pete,
Fred Rogan on a beautiful Monday, Monday, already in November.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
We are Freddy, let's go.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
All right, this is disturbing. And you've heard about Emmanuel
class A of the Gardenians, the closer, really one of
the top in baseball.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, he was about to be the most sought after
guy at the trade deadline. I remember a lot of
He's getting ready to be clamoring after him. Yeah, he's
going to be the most sought after guy in upstate
New York prison.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Emmanuel class A and Luis Ortiz of the Guardians and
dited on federal charges for allegedly intentionally throwing pitches outside
of the strike zone so betters could wager correctly on
whether pitches would be balls or strikes. Now it's a
prop bet. You can make prop bets legal in states
where sports betting isn't allowed, and stories like this are
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just starting to pop up. So here's what would happen.
You could bet Class's first pitch would be a ball
or strike. You could do that. You could wager it
will be a ball or a strike. Well, I'm telling you,
I think a majority of the people wagered ball, because
if you look back at his history, he'd bounce it.
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He'd throw it way outside, he'd throw it way inside.
That first pitch was a ball, And every time we
would make the first pitch, you'd think to yourself, maybe
he doesn't have it tonight. No, he's got to just
find those people needed to connect. There was one time
where he pitched it was outside. The guy hit the ball,
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and as they did their investigation, the Feds found text
messages like the guy with a rope around his own
neck like oh my god. And you know class they said, well,
what do you want me to do? I threw it outside,
the guy just hit it. That's how they were doing it.
So Luis Ortiz comes in, he gets traded there. CLASSA
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says you want a little action, I'd love some. And
then it goes out to say that these guys would
be paid per what they did. They get a percentage
of the winnings. Now, major league players make an awful
lot of money. And even guys that are young when
they hit arbitration, they're making a couple of million a year,
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and then of course they cash in big and that
system is screwed up as well. It takes way too
long for guys to get paid in baseball. But that's
the system. But that's what he was doing, and they
figured it out. He could control the outcome because he
was a guy throwing the ball. And I went back
online and I looked at some clips. Yeah, I saw
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it one hundred percent. If you know what you're looking for,
it's easy to see it. And we are hearing more
and more of these kinds of stories Rodney, guys sacrificing
their careers.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah, that's why it makes it.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
You know, when the whole betting thing became, you know, legal,
and it's it always was popular in sports, betting on
games and doing it and going to sports books in Vegas,
but when it became you know, in sports that the
league started to embrace it. It said this, and I
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know I've said it, that it become a slippery slope
of unwanted people surrounding certain players and and befriending players.
And I'm not defending anybody in this because that's wrong,
is wrong. But I know in a lot of these guys' minds,
and and and and also you know, talking to some
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of the guys nowadays, how how easy it is for
you to get caught up into this and think that, Hey,
I'm not betting the it's my own team.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I'm not throwing the game. It's a simple little prop
bet that it's not affecting anyone whether I throw a
first pitch ball or a first pitch strike, Who is
that really hurting? And I can make a few dollars
on the side. I got a whole little scheme going on. Man,
I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm not throwing the game.
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I'm not throwing a meatball up there in the ninth
inning for a guy to hit a home run. I'm
just throwing a ball. And who's getting harmed? And so
I let some people know that that's what My first
pitch is going to be a curveball. My first pitch
is going to be a curveball outside. I'm not even
gonna throw for a strike.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
And you let you know, one guy know that you
think you can trust, and all of a sudden it
starts a snowball, and then you get more money, and
then you get more money for doing this. Hey, in
the fifth inning, I need you to walk a guy.
I mean, it's just it's such a it's such a
an an easy way, I should say, I don't know
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how to phrase this is even better, an easy way
for guys to get caught up and guys to believe,
to really truly believe that I'm not doing really anything
wrong here. I'm I'm still playing the game, and I'm
still playing to win. So what if I walk the
guy in the fifth is that going to really affect
the outcome in the ninth? And that's the way the
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mentality of a lot of guys, we're thinking, are thinking.
I'm sure this is probably only the tip of the iceberg. Fred,
this is gonna this, This is gonna open up a
whole can of worms of guys that have been approached
to guys that are have done a little this and
little that, and and it and it just is a
it's it's it's gonna get uglier, I should say, before
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it gets better.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
What is wrong with people? What's wrong with these guys?
You're gonna make more money playing than you are gambling.
You are gonna make more money every day as a
profession athlete than if you're betting on the games. I
think we can all establish that you're going to make more.
Why would you jeopardize that? Well, sometimes I'm doing it.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Sometimes it's friends, Fred, sometimes it's your buddies, your family.
Hey man, hey, I got an opportunity to make some money.
And you don't want to give him the money out
of your pocket, or you don't want to say, oh man,
this guy's gonna you know, my cousin's gonna bleed me dry,
or you know, let me help him out. And he
comes here and says, hey, help me out here, and
the uh and the third in the third, I need
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you to, uh, you know, walk two guys in the
third and say what do you mean? Yeah, I can
get fifty grand if you walk two guys in the third.
And a lot of times to me, I'm telling you, guys,
look at it and go, that's that's doable. That's doable.
I'm not hurting anybody. I'm not losing the game in
the ninth, So let me go do it. And guys
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fall into that trap very easily. They don't think about,
oh I can you know I'm making a lot more
money where you know, playing baseball and doing that legit?
Anythink I can make an extra quick fifty grand on
the side for my cousin or for my other buddy
who's struggling right now. And guys fall into the trap.
Not saying it's right or wrong, but it's an easy
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trap to fall into.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
No, it's wrong. I'll say it. It's wrong anytime you
do anything like that, Even if you throw your first
pitch when you're coming in a closer into the dirt
and then you go one, two, three, even with the
knowledge you're doing that, you are compromising the integrity of
the game. It points out that you personally, you can't
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affect the outcome. Why just throw one in the dirt.
Why not just have a bad night. You're not gonna
win or lose make the playoffs by one game. You
already know that. What the hell? I just didn't have
it tonight. I can't believe I can have it. Two
runs in the ninth I can't believe it. Can't believe
I walk three guys, can't man, I'll figure that out tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
What I'm saying is, it's it's so it's so easy
to get caught up into that after you do the
first one, and it's it is wrong. But there's so
many prop bets, which I think is wrong. They should
not have those type of bets. I think it just
it makes because they have. There's way too many and
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it's so easy to manipulate those bets if you get
to the right guy. I mean, there's there's bets on
whether or not that it's going to be heads or tails,
you know, on a on a coin flip his bets,
whether the guy runs it out of the end zone
or not. So you don't think a kicker has a
buddy or two or somebody he's acquainted with or says, hey, man,
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I got a lot of money on on on this
first kick not being returned, can you make sure you
kick it out of the end zone?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Oh yeah, I got it. Man, I'm kicking out of
the end zone.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Oh cool, I just made twenty five grand and it's
a buddy from college. Is just you know, very well,
Hey man, what are you gonna do? What are you
guys gonna call? You think you're gonna run it or
throw it on the first play of the game. You know,
most teams have the first fifteen plays scripted, so you
know what you're doing, you know, and you get to
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either get a call from a cousin or buddy, Hey,
you guys are gonna throw it or run it on
the first play, And a lot of times guys don't.
Most guys will are not paying attention to all of
the prop bets out there. And a guy that's into
the gambling world and knows what he's doing in the
gambling space is not going to just openly tell you
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I'm betting fifty thousand dollars that you guys throw a
pass on the first play versus a run. He'll say
it in a subtle way, Man, how are you guys
gonna how you guys gonna attack the Broncos today? Man,
I think you guys, you guys should throw all over
because they got a terrible secondary And what do you
think you guys are gonna come out throwing? And just
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a casual conversation, he may say, yeah, yeahs a matter
of fact, we're gonna first five plays or pass plays,
just so you know, and that guy takes that information
it goes runs with it. I mean, it happens as
simple and as easy as that.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Well, the prop bets are the problem. That's all a problem.
But the prop bets are really a problem because it's
based on individuals. Yeah, it's the individuals. So are you
going to turn the ball over three times? Are you know,
are you going to go eight of nine from the field?
Whatever it could be, how many free throws do you make?
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You can wager on all of those kinds of things.
It's specifically pointed toward people. When you're playing quarterback, would
people come up to you during the week and say, hey,
what are you gonna do against those guys?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Uh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
It would be whether it be you know, interviews, or
you're out to dinner or you're you know, talking to
friends throughout the week and you know, conversations about the
game would come up. You know, again, it wouldn't be
things wouldn't be specific, but they would be you know,
similar to what I was just saying, Hey, these guys
are terrible in the secondary. You guys gonna you guys
should throw the ball a lot. You think you're gonna
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you guys are gonna gonna open it up on them.
And there may be a prop bed that says this
particular team. You guys, my team, Will they or will
they over and unders? Twenty five passes?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Right? Are you gonna throw more than twenty five passes?
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
And you tell your buddy, Oh, yeah, we're gonna air
it out, man, we're gonna throw it forty times at least,
and that guy takes that information and goes places a
bet on it and to that particular player. He doesn't
necessarily know that's exactly what the guy's doing because he's
a buddy and you're just thinking he's having football conversations
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with you, but in essence he is. He is baiting
you for information. And that's how easy and simple a
guy can get caught up into. It is just simply
answering a question. A lot sometimes it comes from reporters,
you know, reporters in the in uh during the week,
you know, press conferences during the week that you've got
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to do interviews. You know, what's the game plan? What
are you guys thinking? You know, without getting specific, what
are you guys thinking about doing it? Yeah, we can,
we think we can run on them. You know, we
want to come out early and established a run. And
that may be code for we're going to run the
first three four plays of the game.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
It's just it's very.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I want to say, just it's it's very easy to
get caught up into this without and thinking that it's
no big deal, when in reality it is a huge deal.
It's no different than than really throwing a game, or
you know, making sure that you don't win by more
than six points at the end of a game and
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and missing shots on purpose so you don't win by
more than six.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
You know, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
And there's a few few really interesting documentaries out there
about a lot of that that's happened and happens all
all different sports, and no one sport has the corner
on that market. But it's it's scary for it, and
it's the proposition bets that are the ones that are
the killers.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
D Eric Dickerson joins the program coming up at one
o'clock when we come back. I don't know if this
guy is the Serena Williams of football.
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Let me read you something Gary Klein wrote about Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Let me read this.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, he's been as dominant as the UCLA fast break.
In full court press from the seventies, Clayton Kershaw's twelve
to six curve ball, Freddie Freeman's walk off homer swing,
a Reggie Bush breakaway run, a Serena Williams backhand winner,
a Kareem Adul Jabbar skyhook, a Magic Johnson no look pass,
a Kobe Bryant game winning three, Elisa Leslie low post move,
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a Candas Parker dunk all right, Matthew Stafford do four
touchdowns yesterday. He leads the league with twenty five touchdowns
and just two interceptions. He's having a very good year,
having an exceptional year. To be honest with you, yeah,
I think it's a little smoking comparisons like that.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Twenty five tds, two picks, four, three straight games with
four tds, you know, quietly eating the Rams to you know, quietly,
the Rams are best team in football. I would say,
I don't know, if you line it up today, who's
better than the Rams? And he's at the Helm. But yeah,
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I think it's a little premature to put him in
those categories. I mean, all of those guys that were
mentioned ULA in the seventies, I mean they went with
three straight years and not losing a game. I think
Kareem only lost one. You know, while he was playing
at UCLA and Walton carried that torch on and.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
They were as dominant as any team has ever been.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Then, you know, Kareem is multiple MVPs and scoring champs
and got five rings himself. I mean, Magic's got five rings.
Kobe's got what four rings? Five rings himself. So yeah,
a little little little stretch there Fred to put him there,
But he is Sason ended today. To me, I don't
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think it's even a question of who's the MVP.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
You know, It's funny what a difference a city and
a coach make. Once he got with Sean McVay, it
was game over. It was perfect for the two of them.
He could run mcveigh's offense perfectly, he could execute it flawlessly,
and he gave McVeagh a chance to do all kinds
of things he wanted to do with Jared Goff, Jared
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Goff's having a great, great career in Detroit, they were
just the wrong matching. You know, they were not compatible.
Didn't mean Jared Goff was bad and in Detroit didn't
mean Matthew Stafford was bad. But Rodney, you better than anyone,
know who your coach is makes a big difference on
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how you play.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Right coach, environment, players around you, You know, all of
those things matter. You mean, look, he put up a
lot of numbers in Detroit. I mean I forget. He
had Megatron in Detroit, so they they put up some
big time numbers and he threw a lot of touchdown passes.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
In Detroit, he.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Got hit a lot and was hurt often got banged up,
and they would lose games. You know, it kind of
like it was almost not quite to the level. But
it was like when I got to Detroit and we started,
you know, implemented to run and shoot. We would lose
games forty one, thirty eight, thirty five, thirty one, forty eight,
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forty five, and our defense could not stop anybody.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
And that was a situation with Matthew Stafford. I think
there was a playoff game that they put up thirty
eight points or forty points in loss. You know, they
got robbed in one of those games against Dallas in
Dallas that it should have been a penalty and it wasn't.
So he had some unfortunate situations.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
But the team, from a team standpoint, Detroit was not
the team that they are today.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
And he got in the Rams with Sean McVay and
and and the ownership of Stan Kronkey, who what he
brought in. They brought in a mentality of we want
to win and we want to win now, which was attractive,
whereas in Detroit for a number of years, and you know,
certainly when I was there, and then I think for
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a big portion of when he was there, winning was
not always the most important thing. You know, they wanted
to sell tickets and sell seats and all that, but
winning was not the top of the list. Whereas the Rams,
it was at the top of the list, and they
had the right coach quarterback combination that has allowed him
to thrive.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
But that still, you know, you he's got it.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
I think before it becomes hands down for him, first
of all, I think he's a Hall of Famer when
he's all said and done. He's in his seventeenth year,
he's he's in the top five and a lot of
categories when it comes to quarterback. So he's to me,
he's a definitely, definitely a Hall of Famer. But you
can't I don't think you can start putting him into the.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
LA you know, Mount Rushmore's until until they win another
title under his belt. Well, we'll continue that conversation next
hour when Eric Dickerson joins the show, and we talked
about betting on baseball. Well, you can also bet on
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table turners, so there's a problem in that sport as well.
All right, here we go, Fred Rogan Rodney Pete at
a five seventy LA Sports Happy Monday to you. We
have a three hour program and we're looking forward to
spending it with you. Eric Dickerson ed Rodney jumps on
at one o'clock. How was your weekend? Weekend was very good, Fred,
very good. Didn't do a whole lot, sat around watching
football and starting to get back into football mode now, Fred,
(00:25):
because I know we talked last week about how we
were not ready for baseball to be over with. I
kept watching highlights as.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Well all weekend, but slowly football is getting in my
brain and I'm still not into the basketball thing.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yet mean either.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
As a matter of fact, interesting, I watched the Lakers
obviously because we do this, not into it yet, just
can't get into it yet. A couple of weeks, I'm
sure we'll all be when we need to be, and
we will talk football starting to one with Eric when
he gets on the show. Boy. Matthew Stafford great yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Mayn he is maan if it ended today, he'd definitely
be the MVP. The way he's playing four straight games
of four touchdown passes. I think he's only what throwing
three picks this year, twenty something touchdowns. He is uh,
he's on fire. But still I think around the country
he still flies a little bit under the radar.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
That's fair, that's fair. Gary Klein thinks he's in the
division of Clayton Kershaw, Wayne Gretzky. If he continues like this,
love Gary Klein, No he's not love Gary. No, No
he's not Kobe. No he is not. But we'll get
into that coming up later that way, not way yet, Yeah,
all right, because we do have withdrawals. Oh, by the way,
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and we should mention this right off the top. Our sympathies,
our heartfelt sympathies go out to Alex Vessi and his wife. Yes,
last week they posted what happened. They lost their baby
daughter in October twenty sixth, and I think it's very
understandable that that takes precedence over everything. That's why he
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stepped out of the World Series. And that's something, honestly,
you learn to deal with it, but you never get
over it. If you've lost a loved one, and especially
parents of a newborn, you learn to deal with it,
but you never get over it. So our sympathies go
out to the Bessiers.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, and I think.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You know from what I understand as well, that the
it wasn't even a question for the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I think they they they.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Basically forced him off the roster, or didn't intentionally put
him on the roster, because he needed to deal with this,
this tragic situation, because they know everybody I think inside
that clubhouse knows Alex Vessia would have tried to find
a way to come back and play and pitch and
do whatever he could to help the team win a
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World Series. But the Dodgers took it out of his hands,
and I thought it was a great move by them,
because you don't want to a person going through that
to have to make any kind of decisions should I play,
should I not play? If what are you know, what
are the implications, what are the ramifications? And they took
it out of his hands and and really really thought
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big picture and the big scope of things in life.
Like you mentioned, Fred, some things are much more important
and it was much more important for him to be
with his family then playing in the World Series.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
So it was a great gesture.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Also, I just want to reiterate how it was pretty
cool of the of the of the Toronto Blue Jays
bullpen all wearing fifty one on their hats as well
during the during the World Series.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
That was very classic. They got our sympathies to Alex
and his wife. All right, So as we move now
into the off season for the Dodgers, everybody's everywhere. Have
you noticed that everybody is everywhere? Somebody set in my
house over the weekend. What's the middle name of your dog?
(03:59):
I think gonna call call him Miggy. I mean, they're
gonna be people named after Meggie, Animals named.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
After meg nicknames Miggie.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, Miguel is gonna be a big name, and Miggi
is gonna be the big, big nickname for all a
lot of newborns and the born in November.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Fred, Uh, there would be a lot of Miggy's. But
especially right about dogs. Dogs.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
You think about the dogs, whether you rescue one or
you get a new born dog or baby or whatever.
I could see a number of new dogs being named Miggie.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
If I got a new I'd call him Meggi immediately.
Ye would then be a question.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
But in the meantime, as as the tour continues and
guys start to begin to enjoy their offseason. Dave Roberts
was at the University of Alabama. Dave Roberts is everywhere.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah, yeah, he's soaking it in and I love it.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
You know, we got the the uh.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Our foreign players are going back home, spending time. We
talked about, you know, Kim and getting harassed in Korea.
I'm sure, uh, you know, Yamamoto and Otani and Suzaki
have probably made a trip back to Japan, and I
know there's obligations still for a lot of those guys.
So maybe they haven't all left yet, but I know
some of them have. And and again some of you know,
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some of the other guys are just on tour. I
think Mookie's hosting the Big MLB Awards, I think this
this week in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
So yeah, they're dancing with the stars.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Jimmy Kimmel the Laker games, you see Taller Glass now
got a little game to him.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah, right before the Laker game.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
They were all at the Laker game, and he, you know,
he dunked a couple and then stepped back and hit
the three, and no, he got a.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Little form to him.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I think that's that was That was his main sport
growing up, and you know, being six eight, obviously he
played a little basketball. And I think he said his
brother is a big basketball player too. Never played baseball.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Well, you know what, Mark Walter owning both Now they
could call Tyler Glass now went.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, call him in, you know, fill in
for you know, a couple of weeks of guys go
down or something like that.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, when he goes down, come on in, Tyler Glass.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Now, come on, Tyler. Do your think in.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
High school you play two sports? Why can't you play two? Now?
Exactly exactly Fred Weeklings these days, right, get in here?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, all right?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
So how do you commemorate a World Series? What do
you do now? As a fan? And look, we've seen
it on Instagram. People have posted pictures of the World
Series trophy. People have posted pictures of the LA logo,
and everybody wants to commemorate it in their own special way.
So if you're looking online, it's very odd. Mickey Rojas
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is right next to someone's butt, Miggy, I'm sorry, my mistake.
Kyk is right next to someone's butt, and there is
a trophy tattooed on this person's butt. So you think, well,
that's great. A fan got a tattoo of the World
Series Trophy on their butt. But Key K's face is
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right there to a point where it's like a little
too close for comfort, a little odd if you really,
what are you doing? So then everybody tried to figure
out who had that tattoo, Who put the tattoo of
the World Series trophy on their butt? The answer is
Kirby Yates. Boom, Kirby Yates. Let's be honest, probably not
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his best year, probably not his best year now, but
I've signed a one year deal. He was on the team,
got hurt, to be fair, got hurt near the end,
but he was on the team, so he had the
World Series trophy tattooed on his butt. And Mickey Rojas
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explained it, Who is Kei k A sitting next to?
When it comes to this picture, you.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Just open a different box right here, because I gotta
say I'm not that I'm not that guy. But I
had an astat too as well before Kirby Gates, who's
there laying down with his Kirby and his trophy on
one of his checks. I was first. He obviously did
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a Kirby because his name and he wants to get
that with the trophy, and I wanted to get something
else and I got.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
It and it's here. I well, what is it?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
So?
Speaker 4 (08:40):
So court is my favorite beer and I always wanted
to I always told the guys, if we win the Wars,
here is I gonna get a saporoken on my on
my budget? So I got I got a phrase that
goes w S Champs in Japanese. And then on the
me is a battle of support?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Can that's on your ass? Somebody as yes, what the
hell does your wife think of it?
Speaker 4 (09:08):
She won't say. She wasn't really happy about that. She say, Okay,
now you're gonna you're gonna have to get that hiding
and you're gonna have to be with me for the
rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
And that was on Chris Roses podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, my buddy, the way Chris said it, on your ass?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
So you got the support? Did he say he got
the support with the trophy Japanese writing?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I know World Series Champs in Japanese and uh, and
but he didn't have Uh, he didn't have the actual
trophy because what didn't Kirby Yates have the trophy along
with the character Kirby from the video.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Game, Yes, the video game, Kirby actually hoisting up the
World Series trophy.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Right, So if you really, you know, we're any kind
of detective, you kind of could figure out who who's
ass that was next to Kyk.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Here's the thing. I didn't want to figure it out.
I didn't want to know whose house that was. As
a matter of fact, it was borderline disturbing seeing that.
I mean that should be for select people, not key
K's face two inches from Kirby Yate's hass, but the
big smile on it and then the trophy. Yeah, well
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we all know, we all know when gotten to know
Kyk over the years, and we know he doesn't as
he he quite often points out, he doesn't give a
you know what. Even had hats made and shirts and
we got a few of those hats, those those key
K hernandez, we don't we don't give a blank hats
and had t shirts made and everything made up.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
And it became a very cool catch catchphrase for Keik
and something synonymous synonymous with him, and he and he
said it at the celebration this year as well. But yeah,
I don't know if and for what I understand too
Kirby Yates is kind of, you know, let's to let
his hair down a little bit too, So those guys
taking that picture together. I first wondered if Kirby knew
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that KK was gonna post it and put it out
there for the world to see, and did he ask permission?
But then hearing about Kirby Yates and kind of likes
to have a little fun himself, that I'm sure Kirby
was okay with that.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
How do you think Kirby describes his year with the Dodgers?
Kirby won the World Series? Talk about your year, Well,
how do you think you would describe it?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
It sucked?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I think you would say it just like that. Yeah,
I had a terrible year. I didn't pitch up to
my ability. I let the team down in certain situations,
and I didn't have the year I wanted to and
didn't contribute like I wanted to. But we still won
the World Series and we still got a rank. So
I'm very very thankful and happy about it. That's how
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you respect.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
I think that'd be a great response. That'd be the
kind of guy I want to bring back if it
was cheap and he could pitch, if he was honest
and said, look, hey, I didn't get it done this
year for you, and I'm not pleased about it. I'm
glad we won. I'd like to make it right. I
like that. But on the topic of relievers, here we go. Well,
hot stove, is it sizzling yet?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Mean?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Cizling soon?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Already it's already cizling all right.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
So Bleacher Report says Robert Suarez of the Podreys four years,
sixty million dollars, four years, sixty million dollars. And the
Bleacher Report does link the Padre closer to the Dodgers. Now,
keep in mind, the Podreis got another closer last year.
They acquired a closer from the Age at the end
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of the season. Yeah, that hundred and fourth mile an hour.
What was his name, Miller? Miller.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, yeah, they they got him. They thought he was
gonna be the difference maker for them. It didn't work
out so well, but but yeah, yeah, he's swords is
available at fifteen million per year.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
No, you want me to think about it. It's not
one of those long term deals like you hate Fred.
It's only a four year deal and it's sixty million
dollars fifteen million per year. No, absolutely not. I would
not like myself into a closer again, say a lot
of Tanner Scott. I would never do that again. Two years,
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that's it, and two years stops.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Look, relievers are like even if he's a younger, he's
even if he's a younger.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, reliever, I'm not doing it. Two years stops. I'm
not doing it. I got burned here for me one
shame on you for me, twice shame on me. I
got burned. I'm not doing that again.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
He said that better than George Bush did.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Thank you, h I would never do that again. Four
years Tanner Scott now to be fair. Next year he
could be lights out. So for three of the four
years he could be the cy young winner as a reliever,
he could be that good. But after year one of that,
no way, no way. The Dodgers didn't have a closer.
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That was their closer, and the other one was Kirby
Yates World Series Trophy tattoo. As Kirby Yates and Tanner
Scott neither one of them were there at the end.
So there is no way I would do that. I
understand you have to have a closer. Well, Rokie filled
that role. This year, and ye have the Dodgers need somebody,
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But you gotta think it's Tanner Scott going into camp.
If it's not Tanner Scott, then you are way overpaying him,
way overpaying him. If he's not going to get their name,
he's certainly going to give it, get every opportunity to
redeem himself, don't you think.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
You know?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
But because of the contract and because of what you know,
one year, yeah, it's he had a he had a
very very bad year, but his body of work first
of all, warned the Dodgers to go out and pay
him what they did. So I don't think you can
just write him off and say, oh, he had a
bad year with us, so we're done with him and
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not give him another opportunity or next year to maybe
you know, come in fully healthy.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
And and and.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Maybe some mechanical issues that he's worked on or will
work on in the off season that he gets it
right again. But I'm with you on on the year
part of it. When it comes to reliever, if it's
a starting pitcher and he's young enough, uh, you know,
maybe you go for it. But as a reliever because
they are so hot and cold and it's such a new,
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you know, nuanced type of position that you know, four
years does seem seem very long, especially in this day
and age when when you feel like relievers are especially
closers are interchangeable. I mean, look at the Dodgers over
the last what four or five years, they've had interchangeable closers.
You know, it was twenty twenty, Julio was the closer.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Right Julio. Julio who's no longer here.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
With us, was the closer, you know, and then we
had last year was the closer ended up being the
closer for us, and then this year obviously Sazaki and
then Yamamoto came in and closed the game out. So, yeah,
four years does feel a little bit a little bit
long for a for a reliever closer when you can
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put those guys, those starters in that role and let
them go.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Sometimes relief pitchers are goalies in hockey. When they're hot,
they're hot. When they're not, they're not pretty simple hockey
goalie can be great, but you know, once in a while,
when you're standing there staring at one hundred mile an
hour piece of rubber slapped at you doesn't go your way.
That happens relievers the same way. Their mentalities very different.
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And Mariano Rivera is not coming out of the bullpen.
You know that that's not gonna happen now. Kenny Jansen
and his prime ain't charging in.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
What about Edwin Diaz, he's on the market.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I know if in fact they want the closer, And
again everybody says they have to get a closer, they
need a closer. When you look at it like that,
what you're in essence saying is Tanner Scott's not going
to be there for you. That's what it says. And
maybe they're saying, look, that was such an aberration that
we've got to do something just in case, just get
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a little stronger in the back. But if they really
believed in Tanner Scott, would they be saying we have
to get a closer. No, we need a reliever. We
needed a leverage guy, but not a closer. So that
tells you something. But whoever they sign on, whatever they do,
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there is no way I wouldn't even pay the closer
fifteen million a year now, I wouldn't. Why you see
what happened. If they could get out of that Tanner
Scott deal, He's got three more years. If they could
get out of that deal right now, would they? I
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bet they would? Do you think so, yeah, given the years?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Or do you think they believe that he this past
year was an admiration and that that's not the Tanner
Scott that we know and feel like he can be.
So let's give him another year. I don't think they
cut bait with him. I don't think they would because
they paid him for a reason and Dodgers don't miss
very often. They have done their homework on this guy
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and last year was just, you know, chalk it up
in one of those years that he had a bad one.
But is this indicative of what he's going to be
in the future in the next three years. I tend
to don't think so, and I'm hoping and praying no.
But I think the Dodgers look at it as well, Hey,
one year does not make a career, So get back
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out there, fix what you got to fix, and we
still believe in you. But I don't think they I
don't think they cut bait, and.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I think if they could, they would, they'd renegotiate. Yeah,
we'll bring your back with what because we're not getting
our value out of that. We are not getting fair
market value. When he goes out and goes goes gets
goes lights out. Next year, then does he go back
and say, okay, let's renegotiate again. Do my let them? Yes,
go ahead, great, we'll worry about it. Then we will
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worry about it.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Then you'd be a terrible GM Fred.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Oh no, I if I okay, if I was a
jam in today's world, I would do a good job.
But I have a different philosophy. No contract should be
more than two years.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, you would, you would be Yeah, you would be moneyball, right,
your moneyball a combination of moneyball Fred and and and
George Steinbrenner. No, no, no, you wouldn't know what to do,
and I would. Your teams would make the playoffs every
three years. But no, but wouldn't go past the first round.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I wouldn't loadball you. I would not lowball anybody. But
these are two years. You're paid for performance. Okay, you
had a great year, I'm gonna pay seventy million dollars.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Right, and you have a great two years. Okay, so
I'm going to I'm a free agent. Now I'm gone.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
That's right, Open it up. Do you can make even
more from us. We can pay even more now. No,
but I'm leaving. I'm going to the Yankee. I'm going
to the Mets, I'm going to the Cubs. I'm going
to the film I'm going somewhere else. You could have
had me for five years.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
You could have had me for five years locked up,
and we could have rolled this thing and run it
back for five years. Yeah, you chose the cheaper two
year route. And so yeah, I'm not going to give
you the option of bringing me back because I just
won the cy Young. I won cy Young and you
insulted me by only offered me two years. I gave
you the two years, and I gave you two great ones.
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I'm not giving you anymore.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Okay, I look at it like this, not that I'm
only giving two year deals. That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying that. Just said that, Fred, No, that should
be the rule. You said, I'm not giving more than
two year deal, said that should be the rule. Nobody
gets more than two years. Nobody. You got two years.
Then we go again. The problem with that is marketing
and merch That would slow things down because guys are
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always changing teams. But imagine if every year. It's because
we're gonna give you an off year. You get two
every year you were paid on performance. If you had
a hell of a year, you're gonna make.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Me go again. Here we go with the regulation. The
conversation again, it's the same thing.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
What what's say?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
It's the same argument you have with the regulation regulating teams.
If you have a bad year, you get regulated to
triple A.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yes, you know, do do that model doesn't work here.
I would do that here, And I think the team
that finishes last in the draft should not get the
first draft back. I think you should be penalized for that. Right,
So you'd.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Rather have old Tani have an opportunity to go where
he wants now. He he did his two years here
with the Dodgers, So now it's open season for old Tani.
And now now you've got to overpay. You got to
overpay the Mets to keep him.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, you would have to if the contracts for two years. Yes,
and you'd be okay with that. Yeah, because everybody should
be paid on performance every year. Create new team. No,
you would never win. You would never win a title.
First of all, you would never get quality guys. If
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this was a league wide mandate. Maybe you could.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
But if this is a mandate with you and your organization,
you would not get superstars to come play for you.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
You would not.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
It's no, it's a league mandate. It's a league. Man.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
That's terrible.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Well, yeah, players, old old uss R.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Is that what you want to go back to? Fred,
go back to the communism route.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
If that makes seventy five million dollars a year, I
don't think he's, you know, dealing with communism. If somebody
gets paid like that, so you can't have a bad year.
You can't.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
So you have to expecting guys are being not be human,
So you gotta be. You gotta perform or you your
salary get to cut.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Or goes up. It's based on how you perform. So
there's a baseline. What's that baselines and how much does
it go up? Because you're really you're ready to cut
bait on. I'm gonna cut their salary in half. So
if they're if they have a good year, then it's
their salary doubles. No, after two years, you're gonna make
whatever you want. So we negotiate a two year deal,
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you and me. You make thirty in the first year,
thirty five in the second done, you have two great years.
You're up. You can go anywhere. Caro Rodney. Now I'm
gonna pay a forty million this year to stay with me.
Oh wait a minute, they're gonna pay fifty million. Okay,
they're gonna make fifty million. Okay, I'm gone. Okay, we'll
find somebody. Nine per other guys would go, I'm out
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gonna because he's gonna give me.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
He's gonna give me five years. He's gonna give me
seven years on my contract.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I do that here as a plan. You can't do that.
It's the rule.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Two years.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
It's the rule.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Oh, it's the rule for everybody.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Okay, well and put it like this. We've only been
on the air twenty minutes today. Really disturbing story about
Emmanuel class A, the UH Guardian's closure and what he
was doing involving gambling. We'll talk about it next.
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Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yes he is letting it all hang out, Rodney Pete,
Fred Rogan on a beautiful Monday, Monday, already in November.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
We are Freddy, let's go.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
All right, this is disturbing. And you've heard about Emmanuel
class A of the Gardenians, the closer, really one of
the top in baseball.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, he was about to be the most sought after
guy at the trade deadline. I remember a lot of
He's getting ready to be clamoring after him. Yeah, he's
going to be the most sought after guy in upstate
New York prison.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Emmanuel class A and Luis Ortiz of the Guardians and
dited on federal charges for allegedly intentionally throwing pitches outside
of the strike zone so betters could wager correctly on
whether pitches would be balls or strikes. Now it's a
prop bet. You can make prop bets legal in states
where sports betting isn't allowed, and stories like this are
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just starting to pop up. So here's what would happen.
You could bet Class's first pitch would be a ball
or strike. You could do that. You could wager it
will be a ball or a strike. Well, I'm telling you,
I think a majority of the people wagered ball, because
if you look back at his history, he'd bounce it.
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He'd throw it way outside, he'd throw it way inside.
That first pitch was a ball, And every time we
would make the first pitch, you'd think to yourself, maybe
he doesn't have it tonight. No, he's got to just
find those people needed to connect. There was one time
where he pitched it was outside. The guy hit the ball,
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and as they did their investigation, the Feds found text
messages like the guy with a rope around his own
neck like oh my god. And you know class they said, well,
what do you want me to do? I threw it outside,
the guy just hit it. That's how they were doing it.
So Luis Ortiz comes in, he gets traded there. CLASSA
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says you want a little action, I'd love some. And
then it goes out to say that these guys would
be paid per what they did. They get a percentage
of the winnings. Now, major league players make an awful
lot of money. And even guys that are young when
they hit arbitration, they're making a couple of million a year,
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and then of course they cash in big and that
system is screwed up as well. It takes way too
long for guys to get paid in baseball. But that's
the system. But that's what he was doing, and they
figured it out. He could control the outcome because he
was a guy throwing the ball. And I went back
online and I looked at some clips. Yeah, I saw
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it one hundred percent. If you know what you're looking for,
it's easy to see it. And we are hearing more
and more of these kinds of stories Rodney, guys sacrificing
their careers.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah, that's why it makes it.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
You know, when the whole betting thing became, you know, legal,
and it's it always was popular in sports, betting on
games and doing it and going to sports books in Vegas,
but when it became you know, in sports that the
league started to embrace it. It said this, and I
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know I've said it, that it become a slippery slope
of unwanted people surrounding certain players and and befriending players.
And I'm not defending anybody in this because that's wrong,
is wrong. But I know in a lot of these guys' minds,
and and and and also you know, talking to some
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of the guys nowadays, how how easy it is for
you to get caught up into this and think that, Hey,
I'm not betting the it's my own team.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I'm not throwing the game. It's a simple little prop
bet that it's not affecting anyone whether I throw a
first pitch ball or a first pitch strike, Who is
that really hurting? And I can make a few dollars
on the side. I got a whole little scheme going on. Man,
I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm not throwing the game.
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I'm not throwing a meatball up there in the ninth
inning for a guy to hit a home run. I'm
just throwing a ball. And who's getting harmed? And so
I let some people know that that's what My first
pitch is going to be a curveball. My first pitch
is going to be a curveball outside. I'm not even
gonna throw for a strike.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
And you let you know, one guy know that you
think you can trust, and all of a sudden it
starts a snowball, and then you get more money, and
then you get more money for doing this. Hey, in
the fifth inning, I need you to walk a guy.
I mean, it's just it's such a it's such a
an an easy way, I should say, I don't know
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how to phrase this is even better, an easy way
for guys to get caught up and guys to believe,
to really truly believe that I'm not doing really anything
wrong here. I'm I'm still playing the game, and I'm
still playing to win. So what if I walk the
guy in the fifth is that going to really affect
the outcome in the ninth? And that's the way the
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mentality of a lot of guys, we're thinking, are thinking.
I'm sure this is probably only the tip of the iceberg. Fred,
this is gonna this, This is gonna open up a
whole can of worms of guys that have been approached
to guys that are have done a little this and
little that, and and it and it just is a
it's it's it's gonna get uglier, I should say, before
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it gets better.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
What is wrong with people? What's wrong with these guys?
You're gonna make more money playing than you are gambling.
You are gonna make more money every day as a
profession athlete than if you're betting on the games. I
think we can all establish that you're going to make more.
Why would you jeopardize that? Well, sometimes I'm doing it.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Sometimes it's friends, Fred, sometimes it's your buddies, your family.
Hey man, hey, I got an opportunity to make some money.
And you don't want to give him the money out
of your pocket, or you don't want to say, oh man,
this guy's gonna you know, my cousin's gonna bleed me dry,
or you know, let me help him out. And he
comes here and says, hey, help me out here, and
the uh and the third in the third, I need
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you to, uh, you know, walk two guys in the
third and say what do you mean? Yeah, I can
get fifty grand if you walk two guys in the third.
And a lot of times to me, I'm telling you, guys,
look at it and go, that's that's doable. That's doable.
I'm not hurting anybody. I'm not losing the game in
the ninth, So let me go do it. And guys
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fall into that trap very easily. They don't think about,
oh I can you know I'm making a lot more
money where you know, playing baseball and doing that legit?
Anythink I can make an extra quick fifty grand on
the side for my cousin or for my other buddy
who's struggling right now. And guys fall into the trap.
Not saying it's right or wrong, but it's an easy
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trap to fall into.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
No, it's wrong. I'll say it. It's wrong anytime you
do anything like that, Even if you throw your first
pitch when you're coming in a closer into the dirt
and then you go one, two, three, even with the
knowledge you're doing that, you are compromising the integrity of
the game. It points out that you personally, you can't
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affect the outcome. Why just throw one in the dirt.
Why not just have a bad night. You're not gonna
win or lose make the playoffs by one game. You
already know that. What the hell? I just didn't have
it tonight. I can't believe I can have it. Two
runs in the ninth I can't believe it. Can't believe
I walk three guys, can't man, I'll figure that out tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
What I'm saying is, it's it's so it's so easy
to get caught up into that after you do the
first one, and it's it is wrong. But there's so
many prop bets, which I think is wrong. They should
not have those type of bets. I think it just
it makes because they have. There's way too many and
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it's so easy to manipulate those bets if you get
to the right guy. I mean, there's there's bets on
whether or not that it's going to be heads or tails,
you know, on a on a coin flip his bets,
whether the guy runs it out of the end zone
or not. So you don't think a kicker has a
buddy or two or somebody he's acquainted with or says, hey, man,
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I got a lot of money on on on this
first kick not being returned, can you make sure you
kick it out of the end zone?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Oh yeah, I got it. Man, I'm kicking out of
the end zone.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Oh cool, I just made twenty five grand and it's
a buddy from college. Is just you know, very well,
Hey man, what are you gonna do? What are you
guys gonna call? You think you're gonna run it or
throw it on the first play of the game. You know,
most teams have the first fifteen plays scripted, so you
know what you're doing, you know, and you get to
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either get a call from a cousin or buddy, Hey,
you guys are gonna throw it or run it on
the first play, And a lot of times guys don't.
Most guys will are not paying attention to all of
the prop bets out there. And a guy that's into
the gambling world and knows what he's doing in the
gambling space is not going to just openly tell you
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I'm betting fifty thousand dollars that you guys throw a
pass on the first play versus a run. He'll say
it in a subtle way, Man, how are you guys
gonna how you guys gonna attack the Broncos today? Man,
I think you guys, you guys should throw all over
because they got a terrible secondary And what do you
think you guys are gonna come out throwing? And just
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a casual conversation, he may say, yeah, yeahs a matter
of fact, we're gonna first five plays or pass plays,
just so you know, and that guy takes that information
it goes runs with it. I mean, it happens as
simple and as easy as that.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Well, the prop bets are the problem. That's all a problem.
But the prop bets are really a problem because it's
based on individuals. Yeah, it's the individuals. So are you
going to turn the ball over three times? Are you know,
are you going to go eight of nine from the field?
Whatever it could be, how many free throws do you make?
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You can wager on all of those kinds of things.
It's specifically pointed toward people. When you're playing quarterback, would
people come up to you during the week and say, hey,
what are you gonna do against those guys?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Uh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
It would be whether it be you know, interviews, or
you're out to dinner or you're you know, talking to
friends throughout the week and you know, conversations about the
game would come up. You know, again, it wouldn't be
things wouldn't be specific, but they would be you know,
similar to what I was just saying, Hey, these guys
are terrible in the secondary. You guys gonna you guys
should throw the ball a lot. You think you're gonna
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you guys are gonna gonna open it up on them.
And there may be a prop bed that says this
particular team. You guys, my team, Will they or will
they over and unders? Twenty five passes?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Right? Are you gonna throw more than twenty five passes?
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
And you tell your buddy, Oh, yeah, we're gonna air
it out, man, we're gonna throw it forty times at least,
and that guy takes that information and goes places a
bet on it and to that particular player. He doesn't
necessarily know that's exactly what the guy's doing because he's
a buddy and you're just thinking he's having football conversations
(37:01):
with you, but in essence he is. He is baiting
you for information. And that's how easy and simple a
guy can get caught up into. It is just simply
answering a question. A lot sometimes it comes from reporters,
you know, reporters in the in uh during the week,
you know, press conferences during the week that you've got
(37:23):
to do interviews. You know, what's the game plan? What
are you guys thinking? You know, without getting specific, what
are you guys thinking about doing it? Yeah, we can,
we think we can run on them. You know, we
want to come out early and established a run. And
that may be code for we're going to run the
first three four plays of the game.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
It's just it's very.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I want to say, just it's it's very easy to
get caught up into this without and thinking that it's
no big deal, when in reality it is a huge deal.
It's no different than than really throwing a game, or
you know, making sure that you don't win by more
than six points at the end of a game and
(38:05):
and missing shots on purpose so you don't win by
more than six.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
You know, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
And there's a few few really interesting documentaries out there
about a lot of that that's happened and happens all
all different sports, and no one sport has the corner
on that market. But it's it's scary for it, and
it's the proposition bets that are the ones that are
the killers.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
D Eric Dickerson joins the program coming up at one
o'clock when we come back. I don't know if this
guy is the Serena Williams of football.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
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Let me read you something Gary Klein wrote about Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Let me read this.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, he's been as dominant as the UCLA fast break.
In full court press from the seventies, Clayton Kershaw's twelve
to six curve ball, Freddie Freeman's walk off homer swing,
a Reggie Bush breakaway run, a Serena Williams backhand winner,
a Kareem Adul Jabbar skyhook, a Magic Johnson no look pass,
a Kobe Bryant game winning three, Elisa Leslie low post move,
(40:29):
a Candas Parker dunk all right, Matthew Stafford do four
touchdowns yesterday. He leads the league with twenty five touchdowns
and just two interceptions. He's having a very good year,
having an exceptional year. To be honest with you, yeah,
I think it's a little smoking comparisons like that.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Twenty five tds, two picks, four, three straight games with
four tds, you know, quietly eating the Rams to you know, quietly,
the Rams are best team in football. I would say,
I don't know, if you line it up today, who's
better than the Rams? And he's at the Helm. But yeah,
(41:13):
I think it's a little premature to put him in
those categories. I mean, all of those guys that were
mentioned ULA in the seventies, I mean they went with
three straight years and not losing a game. I think
Kareem only lost one. You know, while he was playing
at UCLA and Walton carried that torch on and.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
They were as dominant as any team has ever been.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Then, you know, Kareem is multiple MVPs and scoring champs
and got five rings himself. I mean, Magic's got five rings.
Kobe's got what four rings? Five rings himself. So yeah,
a little little little stretch there Fred to put him there,
But he is Sason ended today. To me, I don't
(42:02):
think it's even a question of who's the MVP.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
You know, It's funny what a difference a city and
a coach make. Once he got with Sean McVay, it
was game over. It was perfect for the two of them.
He could run mcveigh's offense perfectly, he could execute it flawlessly,
and he gave McVeagh a chance to do all kinds
of things he wanted to do with Jared Goff, Jared
(42:28):
Goff's having a great, great career in Detroit, they were
just the wrong matching. You know, they were not compatible.
Didn't mean Jared Goff was bad and in Detroit didn't
mean Matthew Stafford was bad. But Rodney, you better than anyone,
know who your coach is makes a big difference on
(42:50):
how you play.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Right coach, environment, players around you, You know, all of
those things matter. You mean, look, he put up a
lot of numbers in Detroit. I mean I forget. He
had Megatron in Detroit, so they they put up some
big time numbers and he threw a lot of touchdown passes.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
In Detroit, he.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Got hit a lot and was hurt often got banged up,
and they would lose games. You know, it kind of
like it was almost not quite to the level. But
it was like when I got to Detroit and we started,
you know, implemented to run and shoot. We would lose
games forty one, thirty eight, thirty five, thirty one, forty eight,
(43:32):
forty five, and our defense could not stop anybody.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
And that was a situation with Matthew Stafford. I think
there was a playoff game that they put up thirty
eight points or forty points in loss. You know, they
got robbed in one of those games against Dallas in
Dallas that it should have been a penalty and it wasn't.
So he had some unfortunate situations.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
But the team, from a team standpoint, Detroit was not
the team that they are today.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
And he got in the Rams with Sean McVay and
and and the ownership of Stan Kronkey, who what he
brought in. They brought in a mentality of we want
to win and we want to win now, which was attractive,
whereas in Detroit for a number of years, and you know,
certainly when I was there, and then I think for
(44:21):
a big portion of when he was there, winning was
not always the most important thing. You know, they wanted
to sell tickets and sell seats and all that, but
winning was not the top of the list. Whereas the Rams,
it was at the top of the list, and they
had the right coach quarterback combination that has allowed him
to thrive.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
But that still, you know, you he's got it.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
I think before it becomes hands down for him, first
of all, I think he's a Hall of Famer when
he's all said and done. He's in his seventeenth year,
he's he's in the top five and a lot of
categories when it comes to quarterback. So he's to me,
he's a definitely, definitely a Hall of Famer. But you
can't I don't think you can start putting him into the.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
LA you know, Mount Rushmore's until until they win another
title under his belt. Well, we'll continue that conversation next
hour when Eric Dickerson joins the show, and we talked
about betting on baseball. Well, you can also bet on
(45:28):
table turners, so there's a problem in that sport as well.
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