November 10, 2025 • 44 mins
As Eric Dickerson joins us we discuss what it feels like for a pro athlete when you get older, sports gambling and the Rams' dominant win over the 49ers
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, let's go. Ed.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Eric Dickerson joins the show on this Monday. Eric, how
are you good?
Speaker 1 (00:07):
How you doing? Fred? What's up? Rodney? What's up?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Ed?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
You know what it's about?
Speaker 4 (00:13):
Ninety degrees here in LA in November, right, I mean,
I don't know if you guys come out, but it's
very hot today. And you know when the sun's out, Fred,
the guns come out.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Ain't that the truth? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
And Ed's got the guns out today, got the guns
out today. I know he blanked the screen real quick,
but I see, you know, I saw him earlier.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I saw him earlier walking around. He got the guns going.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
He got the guns out and Ed, let me tell
you folks on the radio, because you can't see the visuals,
Ed d.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Ed looked like he can still play. D can still
play right now? E D can still run the rod
and give you give.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
You give you twenty eight carries for about a buck
eighty five right now?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Ed, you look like you can.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
You'll go, brother, little thanks right, that's wish for thanking brother.
These these guns and these are cap pistols now.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Guns.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I mean, I just finish trying to work out some
over here. You know, man, it's tough. It's tough getting old.
I think we said this last week. It's tough getting old, man.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, yeah, what's changed for you since you've gotten older?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
You know, Fred, I'm gonna tell you when I get
up in the mornings out of bed. You know, you
know you've seen an old person walking, leaning over, bending over,
you know what I mean, almost like me, almost like
almost like they're looking for something on the floor.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
That's me.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I'm looking for something on the floor if I can't
stand up straight. I walked ben over for about maybe
about thirty minutes, and then it takes that kind of
heat up. I could not jump out of bed if
something happened up and take off running. Oh no, it couldn't.
Couldn't happen like that. I mean, it's horrible. And then
your memory then you start. Then you start, you take
you find yourself sometimes repeating things, or you just go
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to think, say somebody's name, like what was I gonna say?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I said that.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I'm glad because I think sometimes I think I'm the
only one that you know, brother, that repeats himself or
asked the same question.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
My sir and both my boys came over. You know what.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Yesterday we just lounge and watched some football, and uh,
my my youngest man, Roman, who is U is a junior.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
At s C. He's, uh, you got a few tattoos.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
And so he came in and he had what I
noticed that he had a tattoo around his forearm and
and and I asked him about it, and he's like, damn, dad,
how many times you're gonna ask me about this tattoo?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Every time I see you? You asked me about tattoos.
How many times you're don't ask me about it? In
my mind, I was like, that was the first time
I asked you.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Say no, you asked me every time I see you
in the I got a shirt that's short that you
asked me about this tattoo. It's like, man, and okay,
maybe I do you know, repeat myself, but man, yeah,
I'm with you with the bending over thing and you
don't notice it until somebody else points it out.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
It's like, why you know, why why are you walking
like that? Why are you bending over like that? Why
you why are you standing like that?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Like I don't even think about how I'm standing or
I'm walking or anything like.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
That, But do you think it's a function of the
fact you guys played, or it's just a function of age.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I think both. Yes, it's both.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
It's both because we're so used to playing through injuries
and and just you know, getting through week to week,
and you you know, you limp through in the week,
and then you get ready to play on Saturday and
Sundays and you get through it, and then you start
limping again on Monday. And I think it's just a
function of just old age, absolutely, but also just the
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kind of way we've gotten through weeks during the time
that we played that you just you know, you compensate
for certain things like I walk. I you know, I
have my neighbor place and I walk and there it'd
be random people or people that I know that see
me walking, and why you limping? I don't even feel
myself limping. I don't feel myself limping. I don't feel
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certainly I'm not hurting in that knee anymore. But you
get so used to just adapting to the way you
where you are right now, even if you're not feeling
like you got pain in it, you just automatically limp
at least I do, and and people will notice it,
and you don't know you know yourself, don't notice it
until other people pointed out, well.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I don't know. I notice it for myself. I mean
because when I get up in the mornings, I mean,
I'm I'm actually been over. I mean, you know, it
takes me a minute, so I know it. I mean,
I got a mirror in the room. So I walked
by the by the mirror and I'm like, damn, you look.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Like a hundred years that guy who that man was?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
It was a man.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
It was a guy in my hometown named mister Snap
and mister Snap have been the country. You got all
kind of nicknames, if kind of nickname mister Snap, right,
his name was mister Snap. Missus Snap always had his
hands behind his back and it was bent like a
like almost like an ale shape, looking at the ground,
and I'm like, why does that man walk like that?
And my dad said he had he had a bad back.
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I mean, and I find myself walking like Mr Snap.
Now sometime I get up in the morning, I'm looking,
I'm looking at the ground. You know, I can't stand
up straight. Then finally as time goes on, I can
get eat it up and I can stand up straight.
But it's just it's tough, man, and it is the worst.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Was ever a time when you guys played, and I
know a week one everybody's hurt. But was there ever
a time where you guys played where you could say,
five six weeks nothing hurt, Everything was fine. You never
got dinged up at all. You just got lucky and
didn't feel anything for like five or six games.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, I mean it.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Possibly I can't remember that for a back for you
telling about forty years, but possibly I won't forget we
I think it was my It was my rookie seat
and we had played the Detroit Lions and I had
my first big game one hundred and ninety nine yards.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And uh, I'm in.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I'm in a a a at a club right there
at where the old Fridays used to be riding, you know,
right there in Marina.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
It was a c It's a club right across Marina,
r right across. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
So I'm in the I'm in, I'm in the bathroom
and I mean that what he's you know, going the restroom.
And the guy said, man, he said the Rams play today. Man,
and said yeah, man. I heard the guy say, like
Eric Dickinson over there, he said man, that ain't no
Eric Dickinson.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Man, that man ran the ball thirty times today.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
He probably at home Land in a tub and something
like that.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
And they said, man, you Eric Dickinson. I said yeah.
He said, man, what the hell you doing in this club?
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Man?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You ran the ball so much. I thought you'd be
beat all up. I said, no.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I mean I was young. I was like two twenty two.
I'm like no, I said, I feel fine.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
So you know that that's it. But you know age
has age plays a factor into it. You know how
you feel. You know when you're younger, you know, those
little nicks and aches and pains don't don't hit you
as hard as they do when you in your late.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Twenties early thirties. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Yeah, So to try to go back and describe, you know,
what you felt like, were there weeks and I think
it was more. It's more about age where it didn't
bother you like it bothers you like you know when
you're in your thirties, Because when you're in thirties, I
guarantee you after a game, Eric wouldn't be in the club.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
He would be in you know.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
In the house house having hot packs in the in
the steam room or in the in the djakuzzie, trying
to heal up, because you know you got to get
back at it the next week, and you try to
do whatever it took to get back to the feeling
that you have for Sunday. So I think age is
the most important thing when you talk about how.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Do you recover?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Hey, Eric, when you were playing and Rodney, you were
in Detroit and Philly back then. But Eric, when you
were playing in the NFL, you know you mentioned Fridays
in the marina. I thought you were going to say,
like the right on your woodland hills, but you weren't that.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Like, these red onions were nice too, And I said
they read they were nice. They were in Orange County too.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, I mean, Eric, where were the places you hung
out back in the day, And how many of them
were still open?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Oh, come on, freend the place is closed. No places
kidding me? Forty years later.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I mean, that's like going back to see some of
the same girls when I wouldn't think they're gonna look
the same, and you go there, I went to a club,
I mean it was I went to call Us and
Charlie's was the spot on Monday nights.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Uh miss remember Miss twenty four K twenty four carried.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
God.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
It was a place under the under the Beverly Center.
I can't think of the name of it. Oh man.
It was so many, it was so it was snow
that place. It was so many clubs. Fred, I mean,
you want to go from like spot to spot. But
call us and Charlotte on Monday night that was the spot.
I mean on sun said I met, I mean I
met Prince there, Rick James, me me and Rick James
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became friends.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I mean I met Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Was you meet everybody would go to college and Charlie's
on month Monday night was and it was a small spot.
It was really small. I mean yeah, but but it
was the spot to go to.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
There was h at one point the China Club in
La was kinda forgot about the China Club, right, the
China clubs and nice spot three to four three to
four year run at the China Club was nice too.
You know Roxbury Sunset.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
The rocks of Roxbury at the Roxbury Where did you go, Fred?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Go anywhere?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Go ahead? Mask, I didn't go anywhere, Fred, go anywhere?
You go out at all?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Fred, I really didn't. I'm trying to remember. I really
didn't go off.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I got off the air at eleven thirty, Fred, and
you know I go You still had the whole night
ahead of you.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Man, you you know you no, No, I'll tell.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
You where you go.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Go to a place called Dalton Burbank. It's now Capitol Grew.
It used to be a claim jumper McCormick and schmecks.
But back in the day, and that in that high
rise building. Yes that's on the corner, yes, all of
it whatever, that's where we'd go. We go adults almost
every night. Wow all wow, you know another place that
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we'd got all right, But I mean I I didn't
go to clubs. We'd go to the Money Tree into
Local Lake, which is now Foreman's.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
The money Tree, the money Tree once upon a time
in Hollywood, Warms. I didn't know it used to be
money Tree.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
That's what That's what it was once upon a time
in Hollywood. The movie with Brad Pitt. Mm hmm, I
think that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
They redid Riverside Boulevard to make it look like it
did back then, and they took down the Foreman sign
and put up money tree and everything, and they shot
right on the corner there of a riverside and foreman,
people went outside and watched them shoot it.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Oh yeah, that's where I go, so you you.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
It was more of a what like a restaurant eatery
place after after work the people would go or just
have cocktails with it, like just cocktails.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
No club, yeah, like Frank Sinatra, lownd singers or what
was it like?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Man that there were no lounge singers. There there was
a place and maybe Kevin remembers the name. Uh there
was a place across.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Skevin not as old as you fished.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
No, but he might remember Dimples.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I did say, I said out loud to Katie. He
was like, how the hell this? But yes, Dimples right
across from us here. Yes, now there's a whole. Now
there's a whole foods.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
But it used to be a karaoke bar named Dimples.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yes, right, everybody would go to Dimple's. That'd be another
place right across the street. They'd go there and hang out.
But I was in club guy, I didn't do that.
There was a place on Ventura Boulevard that my friend
Steve Summers, who was the weekend guy, when I got here,
went too called the Hot Club. Remember the Hot Club? Anybody?
How about Stanley's Clubs? I remember Stanley.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, yeah, Stanley's. I remember Stanley's.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, it was in Stanley's that Rogan's Heroes was name.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
That's name.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Here's what happened. We went in, we're drinking, I'm at
the bar, and we did this thing called Plays of
the Week and they were the great plays of the Week.
And a bartender looks at me and he goes, Hogan Heroes,
Rogan Heroes. I went boom. And that's how we named
Rogan Heroes. It was the bartender at Stanley's.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
He gat a name. That's getting you get any money? No,
you can give him any money for naming Who do
you think you who?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
You think you're talking to Rodney? You know you're talking
to mister Chief himself.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
You talk.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
That's mister Benny over there. They's the that's the true
mister Benny right there.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Give it up, no money, man, and created the name
Fred that you you ran with for twenty years and
you didn't give him.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
A stolen That's what he said, as I could use it.
I do think that. But then I never went back
and to ask.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Him, right, you didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Oh remember the Hall of Shame?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Will we do that?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
The bloopers? You know where that came from. It was
a thing in the Austin American Statesman newspaper. When I
worked in Austin, they had a little little box down
on the corner every day called Hall of Shame. And
the stupidest thing that happened. I went, I like that name.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
That's where you stole it from?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Hall of Shame.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, another thief here it is.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You know, I'd like to say I steal from the best.
Now you got it, Take no problem, take no prisoners.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Were you send them from the brothers?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Though? No?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
No, oh no, no, no, no, no, no see me,
come see me? Oh no, Eric, I got that down Ford.
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Speaker 2 (14:03):
All right, well we'll continue with that, but let's get
to this gambling story next.
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Speaker 1 (14:42):
Dickerson, Come on, Freddy, let's go.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Last hour. We talked about Emmanuel class the pitcher for
the Cleveland Guardians, and his teammate or yes, Guardians and
his teammate, Luis Hortiz, both of them in big trouble
because they basically rigged things when they were pitching because
of prop beats. Claus A thought I would throw every
first pitch in the dirt wide inside, so if you
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bet my first pitch would be a ball, you'd win. Well,
Baseball found out, so do the FEDS, and that's going
to end their career, and you go, well, what does
that mean? You know, is it that big of a problem.
At the World Table Tennis event in Nigeria, they had
the same issue. People were considering throwing World Table Tennis
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matches for money, people betting, and it got so bad
that the governing body had to jump in and look
at it. And now they may have a betting problem in.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
World table tennis.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Oh lord, yeah, world table tennis may have real table tennis.
You get a problem in world table tennis for it,
then all hell is breaking loose. Now may when it
gets to that li, when it gets to that level,
love all that God, and got to pick a ball,
because if it is pick a ball then and then everything.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Is all lost.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
All bets are off, All bets are off for real,
literally and figuratively the man, world table tennis, the betting.
But do you understand the insanity of this? You understand
the lunacy in this?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I mean, I don't understand. If you're making millions of dollars,
I mean millions of dollars, why would you bet take
a chance on that losing that for what? Let's sten
let's let's just say it was one hundred thousand dollar.
Let's use that number. That's a big number. Well you're
gonna take You're gonna take a chance on losing your
income over that. And you're making twenty five thirty to
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forty million dollars a year. That makes no sense. That
means you, I mean, you just you're just dumb basically,
I mean, whatever that was breaking.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
It down problems, dumb does.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
And then and then from what I'm you know we
understand about the baseball guys, is that there were what
text messages going back and forth that they call it's like,
you're gonna do it this one thing, but man, you
left the whole paper trail on this. And I was
saying ed in last hour about how because of these
prop bets, you know, those bets that you can bet,
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oh is it is it gonna be a run or
a pass or is it gonna be you know, you're
gonna you know how many punks gonna be in a game,
and how many you know, is he gonna miss the
first field goal? Miss all those things you can bet on.
And you know, you got friends and cousins and everybody
and their brother. You know that you don't necessarily know
that they all, you know, they are all on the
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up and up, but they try to gain information from you.
And I'm saying that's that's kind of how it starts.
It's like you get a you get a friend from
college or you get a buddy and say, hey, you
guys are supposed to be running the ball on these
guys because they give up three hundred plus yards rushing
the game. You guys are gonna run a lot. You
think you're gonna you think you're gonna carry the ball
more than twenty times? Ed, you know, you're like, man,
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I don't know, I don't know what's going on, but probably,
and that's all they need. They go run to the
bookie and go easy.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
He said it. He said they're gonna run more than
twenty times.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
And that's how easy these guys can get caught up.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
But then when you put.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
You know, text messages on it, these guys obviously were
more involved in that because those are casual conversations. But
these guys had text messages and saying that you want
me to throw a ball here, you want me to
throw it outside, I'm gonna throw it outside and it's
gonna be ball one or ball two, whatever it was.
They were so specific that they the Fed's got them.
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They got him.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
So so okay, So I don't know these guys. So
they played baseball baseball right now?
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Leave?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Okay, So how my picture? So how old are these guys?
Are young? The lege?
Speaker 6 (18:51):
What?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
But they're not.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I don't think they're in their thirty set. Okay, so
early they're in there. They're in their prime.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, the prime. So so now, so how much money
they're making? I mean, which guy? I mean you think
you were fifteen.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
They're in the double digit millions. Yeah, I would say
classmate for sure, right is in the ten eleven million dollars?
Inn't he somewhere around there? You guys, class as the
big guy. He was about to be one of the
biggest free agents. Ed uh, this this past trade deadline
in July. He was about there. There were gonna be
a lot of people after him for trade and he
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was he was on the verge of probably making a
lot of money, a lot of money because he was
top three in the think in the American League in
terms of closer relievers, and now you know, about to
be you know, facing prison charges.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
So basically they gonna he'll be out of the MLB, basically.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Be not And the word was that that, you know,
the money that he was going to make on some
of these deals were not that great. It was like
what Fred like twelve fifteen thousand dollars or something like that.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I said, it's if it was one hundred grand, it
wouldn't be what so what all right?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
He was making four million a year, five year, twenty
million dollars deal.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Okay, four million dollars a year, so you just four feitted.
So now that's right. Your contract is void. Oh you're
automatica yeah, you're done. So so you kicked out of it.
So basically you can't play no baseball. You know, maybe softball.
Someone maybe fast pitched softball in the prison league. In
the prison league. Yeah, that is amazing to me. I mean,
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same as the NBA. So these guys making all this
money and they taking but making what twelve thousand, fifteen,
twenty thousand dollars if of for bet that, And that's right.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
That's worth. That's what losing your career behind.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Never never anybody ever reproached you about gambling when you
were playing er.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
No, never, And I've been like, are you out of
your mind? No, no, man, I would never do that
for it. It That's just that's me. I mean, I mean,
that's I mean that to me, that's that's the integrity
of the game. I mean, look, you know in football,
you know they're gonna cheat anyway, They're gonna try to
get your plays and all that kind of stuff. But
now you're talking about a whole different kind of level
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of cheating when all of a sudden, you're trying to
I'm gonna fumble the ball on this play, or I
know that you know, our kickers struggling, so you know,
if we kick, you might want to take a bet
on some of the kicks. You know, I wouldn't sound
that sounds crazy to me, but people do it.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
They do it. They do it, man, and they do
it on a regular basis. And a lot of times
it's people that they know that get them caught up
into it. You know what I'm saying. You know, it's
a cousin cousin say, hey, man, I got a guy
that can make me some money. I'm behind on this,
I'm behind on that. I don't need anything from you.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Just let me know.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Y'all gonna, y'all gonna, y'all think, y'all gonna you're gonna
throw it more than twenty five times today?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Or or how many? How many? How many? Is so much?
So we gonna play? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Is the right tackle, left tackle? Is he gonna play today?
And they ask you those kind of questions, which should
always raise a red flag if you got somebody, even
somebody that you know, start asking, you know, what's the
injury report on a on a Thursday or Friday. But
it happens. It happens. It's like you think you guys
gonna cover or it's not as blatant as that as
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it could be. Like I said, you guys think you're
gonna throw it more than twenty times today? And there's
a bet, there's a bet out there that guys can
bet on will the rams pass more than twenty attempts
or less than twenty attempts? And people can bet on
that and make them make money on it. And all
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it takes is somebody to call into a friend of
a friend and say, hey, as ask Matthew Stafford or
ask pooking the cour does he think that that you
guys are gonna throw the ball more than twenty times?
And that's like, that's like, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
When the court droped it, you're gonna throw you the
first bet drop it?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I bet he dropped the first pass.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I mean, yeah, am you tell you talking about these guys,
these NBA players they're making when was I saw twenty
six million dollars a year? You're gonna throw that away
for Like I said, I'm going high one hundred grand.
You're gonna throw that away for one hundred thousand dollars
fifty twenty on some bets. That's just that is sheer
stupidity to me. I mean, you get what you deserve.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Didn't Somebody used to talk to you guys. The doctor
Boudreau guy would come in and talk about.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
This kind of thing. Doctor Budo did come in. The
doctor guy, Doctor Budau was the guy. He was they
were talking about.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
We talked Doctor Eric.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I didn't know it too well. They leave, They come
in and talk to you about you They come and
talk to you about it. They have people come and
tell you about by drugs, about the drugs.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
They come and talk about you know, women, you know,
getting caught up in scandals and all that kind of stuff.
You know, we talk about gambling too, Yeah, they talk
about They talked about gambling, and they talked about everything.
Then they they said, well, look we have a the
situation has happened a couple of times a guy named
doctor Boudreau, and you know, you'll go to the hotel
and you know, because we couldn't go to the bar
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at the hotel, and I think this was stopped it
and your hold. You get to go to another bar
outside of the hotel. I think about this bread. I'm
standing to Marryott, but I can't go to the bar
in the hotel. I got to go to the bar
across the street or down the street. I can't go
to my because what happened is doctor Boudreau would come
to your hotel. Hey, you know, I'm to have somebody call. Hey,
this is doctor Budreau's office. I'm Stacy, and you know,
(24:28):
he just wants to welcome you to the city. And
he liked to have a drink with you tonight, maybe
him something his his assistance.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Okay, that sound cool.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
So boom, you go to the bar, you know, meet
doctor Budreaux at the bar at your hotel and you're
having a few drinks.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
What did doctor Boudreau look like?
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I have no sometimes I never saw doctor he was
black or white.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
I know, never had a real picture of doctor bud.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
We had the stories, and you know, you hear some
guys so so good caught up by doctor Mudreaux.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I want some of the guys you'd hear about it.
But if it really happened or not.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
So anyway, you wind up in your room, wake up
the next morning with some photographs on the bed, you know,
if you you know, he might put his penis next
to your mouth.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Or something like that, you know, and they blackmailing.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
They're blackmailing guys, and that's what that's and and that's
what was happening. They were blackmailing some of the players
because you know, they wasn't indulgent in that. But he
had drugged them. He had drugged them or the women
had drugged them, and they got him up to the room.
And some guys are married, you know, they may show
them with with a woman on sitting on top of
him naked or something like that. You know, guys start
trying to pay up. So that's what that's the doctor
(25:38):
Boudreaux story.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, but but during that conversation they would also talk
about gambling.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Ye Like, it would be yeah, well security we're talking
about they were talking they were talking about gamble.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
They would explain, Yeah, they would talk about this is
different ways guys would would try to approach you. Just
be aware of, you know, certain guys asking you specific
things about the game. If it's not you know, somebody
within the organization. Somebody may have, you know, buy you
a drink and say, you know, they start asking you,
you know, do you think you're gonna cover or how
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many yards you think you're gonna throw for? Or how
many you know yards you're gonna run for. When there
was conversation, they would like triggers that that they told
you to look out for. So yeah, they had those conversations.
But then you know, a lot of times those those
go in and in one air and.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Out the other.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Which is why doctor Boudreau lasted for so long because
he had a scheme with the girl. He had a
pretty girl meets you as you go the girl, the girl,
you think you're going up the room and the girl's
gonna be in the room, and the girl may be
in the room, but she drugs you, and then all
of a sudden, you drugged and he's taking compromising pictures
of you in the room and then leaves, like Eric said,
(26:50):
leaves them on the bed, or sends them to sends
them to an address, or your facility, sends them to
the to the league or your team facility. And you
get a package and looking at the package, going, oh lord,
you don't want this to go to your.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Wife or go to the media. And you better pay
me fifty that fifty thousand dollars. And that's how doctor
bou Drove would get it done. He would have the
girls work for him.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Scary quite That's what I never knew. What doct That's
a good question. I don't know what doctor Drove looked like.
I never I never saw him. I just heard the story. Yeah,
we drove got another one.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Again again. He liked, he liked, he liked, he liked
the Bema, the opera.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
So Eric, when you guys were flying for a not
a town game. You get in on Saturday night, Saturday.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Sometimes we come in Friday, like when we go to
New York, We're coming on Friday, Chicago, were coming on Friday,
New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I won't forget we played New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
We left, we played Chicago on the Monday night and
went straight to New Orleans. From that Monday night game
set that all week. That was a bad idea. I
knew a bad idea. He was in Bourbon Street all week,
all week, all we all week.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
M hm, you know we're doing all kind of doing
all kind of stuff. Got I got out got our
ass whooped too by the Saints the next day that
that Sunday. That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
So when you go, is there a curfew, is there
a bed check or you guys do whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
It's a it's a curfew the night before the game,
but like when you there for like four days, like okay, well,
say we flow to New York and we got there
on Friday, that Friday, we got that Friday. I don't
think it was a curfew Friday night.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
It was. I don't think it was no curfew Friday night.
If it was, it might be it was later.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
It was like it was like one o'clock maybe like
a one o'clock perk curfew, because normally curfew was I
think ten or eleven, like the night before the game
the curfew maybe like at ten o'clock. It looks like
you have, you know, I have to have a dinner
with the team, and then you go to your room
and they come check. They come give a bed check,
but you know, bad check. You're doing all kind of stuff. Man,
I'm telling you, girls in the room, girls in the room.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I went, man, oh yeah, I've heard yeah during bed check.
Oh yeah, young young man. Yeah, girl got a girl
under the under the bed.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
You get, yeah, a guy who sneak the girls in,
like at nine o'clock. You being, Yeah, you come in early,
and you be in uh you know, you're you have
a team meeting or a late teen meal snack, you know,
around nine o'clock, and then curfew was at eleven, so
you know, while everybody's down eating or having a meeting,
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you know, you have the girls be in the room.
And then then you'd either sneak in the closet or
behind the curtains or wherever maybe and they'd be there
all night.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I got fined.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I got fined the Pro Bowl for having the good
in the room because I didn't go to practice. I
went to the practice the next day.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I was out all night. Man.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I think I got in like five in the morning
and practice bus was leaving like eight o'clock. And I
told him, I said, man, I got a real bad headache,
and I got it. I think I got a real
bad hold. I got a fever. Never forget uh. Tom
Landry's got there. They were that the Cowboys. They were
he was the coach for the Pro Bowl. So I'm
in the man it's like I don't know, two o'clock.
(30:12):
On one o'clock, I got a knock on the door,
and it's just in to day one o clock in
the afternoon. I looked at the pep hole. I see
a doctor gyside. I said, who is it?
Speaker 1 (30:21):
This is doctor someone sow from the Dollar cowboys.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I said, okay, all right, hold on a second. I
tell her go in the path through through.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
So she jumps up, going, I said, I said, man,
put some pants on, some shorts on. So he comes in.
He says, how are you feeling? I said, you know,
I feel out. I'm not feeling that good. Take my temperature,
you know, uh yeah, take my blood pressure and stuff.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
He said, you might for use your.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Restroom, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I said no. I said no, go ahead. He goes in.
I'm right out. He said, you're.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Okay, I said, I said, did he see? He said,
oh yeah, he pulled the curtain back on the shower.
She said, sitting in this finally said he pulled the
curtain back and saw me.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I got fined. I got fined.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I think I got found five hundred dollars one thousand. Man,
I tell you I would never do that. Crap bowl, you
know what. Needed all the money, need that little money.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, wait a minute. He walked out and he goes,
you'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
He said, you'll be okay.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Right, he knew it wasn't He knew he wasn't sick.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
He was like, okay, this is what I think.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
And the killer and the kid, the kicker was to think.
The girl was naked in the shower. That was the
kicker too.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
He said, he you'll be okay, Like okay, it's like
he almost gave you thumbs up. Okay, yeah right right,
be all right?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, isn't that funny? They set him just to see
if maybe it was able a doctor, They said, what
was going on?
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Uh, I don't kid.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, he has little he has a little doctor thing
and he's had like a little you know, doctor brief
whatever the look cage.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
They came.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
He had his head, his thermometer and the blood pressure
machine and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
That was funny.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
You had then you had coaches that were that that new,
you know, and some of them were cool. Then you
had you know, depending on who was doing bet check
that night, and you had some coaches that were like
all right, man, I know I know, just get her
out by by new or get her out, get her out,
get out before.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
The morning, before anybody sees her. Just just make sure
she's out of here.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
And they would have conversations and they said that, okay,
you know, guys would try to hide them or whatever,
and the and the coach was, Okay, I know, I
know you got her in there, so you know, just
come on out, come on out. Most of most of
the coaches knew the guys that were, you know, doing
something after curfew, they knew, they knew the coaches. Yes,
(32:59):
I remember we snuck out one time in Philadelphia. You know,
we were at I forget what training camp was was
at Lehigh I believe it was. And so it was like,
you know, you know, four days in the training camp,
it feels like two weeks. You know, it feels like
it feels like you've been there forever. So it was
like one of those nights, we're like, okay, let's let's
(33:20):
all get out. We're gonna go to this this spot
down the street, and uh, everybody meeting the parking lot
and we just get there and go there and blah
blah blah. And it was one of the coaches that
was had bed check because they rotated coaches rotated during
training camp who had bedcheck. And we had a cool
coach that was like, Okay, I ain't gonna say nothing,
but y'all just be careful, be careful.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
We know you're gonna sneak out. We know you gotta
get out.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
So we're out at this at this bar in Pennsylvania
and there's there's about ten of us that are out
after curfew, and I there's a there's the bartender and
a phone brings a phone to me and says, hey,
(34:05):
Ray Rhose is on the phone.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
He want to talk. They knew exactly where we were because.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
They got spies, right, they got spies. They know who's where,
what's going on. So he knew that we were at
this bar, and he was like, all right, man, y'all
He's like. Ray was like, I know, I know all
y'all are there. And I got the word that all
y'all are out there doing your things. So just don't
be out too late, be out too late, and if
and if any of y'all late for practice tomorrow, I'm
finding all y'all.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
So just make sure everybody gets home safe. And it
was you know, because he was cool.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
He was a player, so he understood they you know,
sometimes you got to get out and just let your
hair down a little bit. But that was funny that
the Bartenders handed me the phone. Hey, it's your coach
on the phone.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
So that's that's that's the life of NFL player for it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Four, The NFL Spotlight is presented by Ford. How good
is Matthew Stafford. Let's try to figure that out.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
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Speaker 4 (35:29):
Oh yeah, let's keep it moving on the forward NFL
Spotlight on a Monday. Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan, Hall of
Famer Eric Dickerson, come on, all right.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
So Matthew Stafford looked really good yesterday. First of all,
I think the Rams really did a good job against
those guys, really did a terrific job against them. And
that being said, the kind of year that Matthew Stafford
is having and Eric, I mean he's throwing I think
twenty five touchdowns and two picks something like that. Rodney, Yeah,
I think yeah, yeah. I mean he's having a terrific year.
(36:04):
How good a year is he having? In your opinion, Eric,
I think it's having a historic year right now. He
keeps playing like he's playing.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
This is the last you know, three games.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I think no other quarterback in the NFL history has
thrown four touchdowns in three consecutive games. And I mean
the passes that he throws. I mean I looked at
the one that he threw. It was was it last week?
He threw the pookah who they played the week before,
whoever they played? It was a pass toward the en
zone to the corner of the end zone. Man, I'm like, damn,
(36:38):
that was that was like on a rope.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
It was.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
It was a perfect pass that the defender was in
a perfect position, but he couldn't make the play. I
just believe he's having one of those years that you
wish that you could have. You know that, you know
it's as a quarterback, I mean right, and you can
speak for it as a quarterback, you know, like you
you're just on fire. And they asked him about you know,
the no look past, but you know, he's notorious for that.
(37:01):
And the thing is, Matthew staffort it. Fred has been
playing like this for years. He really has the problem
with it is he was in Detroit. He was there
on bad football teams with no help. You know, his
big receiver was Calvin Johnson. And he said that the
way that he started, you know, the kind of no
look past, was that they knew he wanted to throw
it to Calvin, but he wouldn't look at him and he'd.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Throw it to him anyway.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
I mean, so, I mean you saw someone the passes
he threw, he was like, he would even look at
that direction and he throw it. DeVante Adams said he's
never seen anything like it, you know, the way he
can throw the ball not looking at you and throw it.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
You know, spot on.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
So but really, when you look at his his production
this year so far, let's hope it, you know, it
keeps going.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I mean, he's he's at the top. He I mean,
I think right now he's the MVP. If the season
is it right now, he'd beat the MVP.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
I don't know if there's clearly to me, it's not
even a question right now, who's playing the best football
right now in terms of the court position when you're
talking about twenty five touchdowns, two interceptions, and the way
he's leading this team and the way they are playing
like a well oiled machine. And the only thing for
(38:14):
the Rams is they just gotta they gotta stay healthy
and keep everybody healthy, right, And that's obviously that's the
thing with with every NFL team, But they can't get
hurt on key positions. Puka and DeVante Adams together, they
got two number one receivers. They got two number ones.
You know, teams are struggling to have just one number
(38:34):
one receiver and they got two that can kill you,
and you know from the tight end. And then you
throw in Sean McVay and how creative he is offensively.
Those two guys head coach, I don't know if there's
a better head coach quarterback combination than McVeigh and Stafford.
It's like they are one like they they they know
(38:56):
each other and feel each other so well that I'm
trying to go back to think of what quarterback coach
combination was a better fit than these two guys, because
they are on the same page on so many levels
that McVeigh doesn't have to worry that Stafford's going to
(39:17):
get him in the right play. Who's going to make
the right decision or they have prepared all week for
different situations, and they all are on the same page.
And then at Stafford's age at thirty seven, he's seen
it all, you know. And you know, sometimes you get
to a point where the game slows way down for
(39:38):
you and it looks like he's playing, you know, at
a level where everybody everything's going in slow motion for
him and he's seeing the whole field. But the Rams
are a team because they are running the ball now too.
And the defense has been, you know, been very very good.
But they're running the football, throwing the football. It's not
just it's just just one side. They can beat you
(40:01):
running the football now too. And again it comes down
to just health. And if they stay healthy, I think
they roll. I think they roll through the NFC in
terms of the playoff picture and everything like that, and
that includes Philadelphia. I think Philadelphia. They get them in
a situation where they can get Philadelphia here as opposed
(40:21):
to you know, it may be crazy cold or rainy,
but even think about last year, even in the snow
and the cold in Philadelphia, they had a beat They
had the ball on the twenty yard line going in
to win it and they didn't get it done. But
this year they are I don't know where the weakness
is on this Rams team right now. They're playing at
(40:43):
such a high level that they are the best team
to me in the NFC.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Well, the one thing is that they can't do what
they did in the Philly and they did with San
Francisco's turned the football over. I said that last year
in that playoff game and went down there. They talked
about how great Philly we. I said, Philly has got
a great football team. I said, the deal is, I
think like they's a better coach. I think that if
you took a look at talent, and the talent on
both teams are probably equal. I said, Phillips defense probably
(41:08):
is a little bit better. But I said, if we
don't turn the football over, I said, we'll beat them.
I said, no, if we turn the football up, we
won't beat them. I sure enough, who we turned the football,
we didn't beat them. That that was our catalyst and
it was still it was still it was still six points.
I think the thing and even this game here, I
think one of the big things is is that, you know,
and you don't see a lot I think about right,
they do it.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
They did a lot of three tight.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
End sets, you know, with with with Perkinson, Higbee and Ferguson.
I mean, and it called San Francisco a lot of problems.
You can run it, you can throw it, and you've
got three athletic tight ends.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
You got to run athletic tight that our threat, our
threat in the passing game, not just you know, because
a lot of times you have one guy that's an
analytic tight end that kind of plays in between like
a receiver tight end type, right, and then the other
two are usually big blockers. They're they're glorified offensive tackle.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Based offensive facules, right. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
But they got three guys that are athletic tight ends
that you line up and you better put you better
put a very good safety because you put a linebacker
on them, they're gonna beat the linebacker. They're gonna beat
the linebacker in any route that they run. So they
are very versatile and what they can do offensively right now,
and it's it's fun to watch them play.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
That's what and that's what happened yesterday with the tight ends.
They've tried to put a they tried to put a
linebacker on them. I think it was I think it
was on Ferguson and and he beat him. I mean
you can't not only yeah, I mean if if you can,
if you got these tight ends that are athletic and
run and they can block, because you know, the thing
that the game is different, it's faster now, I mean
(42:44):
it's it's a little faster from you know, they want
to make you know, to get to the line and
you know.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Get off the ball right quick.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
And these tight ends are big, physical, can run and
catch players. And yesterday they really had San Francisco thrown
off for the three tight ends.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
You could see it.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
And you got to make a choice. If you're a
defensive coordinator, you're Robert Sala, you gotta make a choice
of how you play that. Do you play it big
or do you play because if you play with you know,
nickel and bringing an extra extra defensive back or two
extra defensive back, they gonna run the ball down your throat,
you know, because they're more you're gonna be more physical
(43:21):
than then then if you say, okay, we can't hold up,
you know, physically, so we gotta we gotta play with
more linebackers, so we got to play our base defense
and not bringing an extra defensive back that we lose,
you know, seventy pounds, so we gotta we gotta stop
be able to stop the run. Then the tight ends
(43:41):
are matched up against linebackers who don't cover that well.
And those tight ends were killing them. So they got
the best of both worlds. When you've got three tight
ends that are athletic and can run routes, but also
if you try to go small on them, they will
out physical you and run the ball down your throat,
which we saw.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
And that's the that's what they did yesterday. They were
more physical than San Francisco was. And look, I know
San Francisco has has a lot of injuries, but and
I gonna say that ain't my problem. I don't care
about San Francisco problem.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
The Board NFL Spotlight is presented by board.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
All Rodney.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
I don't know what these guys at USC are doing. Seriously, Hey,
I know, if you ain't rubbing youmanship gamesmanship? Yeah, all right,
we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
What how long eight after? Okay,
All right, let's go. Ed.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Eric Dickerson joins the show on this Monday. Eric, how
are you good?
Speaker 1 (00:07):
How you doing? Fred? What's up? Rodney? What's up?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Ed?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
You know what it's about?
Speaker 4 (00:13):
Ninety degrees here in LA in November, right, I mean,
I don't know if you guys come out, but it's
very hot today. And you know when the sun's out, Fred,
the guns come out.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Ain't that the truth? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
And Ed's got the guns out today, got the guns
out today. I know he blanked the screen real quick,
but I see, you know, I saw him earlier.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I saw him earlier walking around. He got the guns going.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
He got the guns out and Ed, let me tell
you folks on the radio, because you can't see the visuals,
Ed d.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Ed looked like he can still play. D can still
play right now? E D can still run the rod
and give you give.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
You give you twenty eight carries for about a buck
eighty five right now?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Ed, you look like you can.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
You'll go, brother, little thanks right, that's wish for thanking brother.
These these guns and these are cap pistols now.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Guns.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I mean, I just finish trying to work out some
over here. You know, man, it's tough. It's tough getting old.
I think we said this last week. It's tough getting old, man.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, yeah, what's changed for you since you've gotten older?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
You know, Fred, I'm gonna tell you when I get
up in the mornings out of bed. You know, you
know you've seen an old person walking, leaning over, bending over,
you know what I mean, almost like me, almost like
almost like they're looking for something on the floor.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
That's me.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I'm looking for something on the floor if I can't
stand up straight. I walked ben over for about maybe
about thirty minutes, and then it takes that kind of
heat up. I could not jump out of bed if
something happened up and take off running. Oh no, it couldn't.
Couldn't happen like that. I mean, it's horrible. And then
your memory then you start. Then you start, you take
you find yourself sometimes repeating things, or you just go
(01:57):
to think, say somebody's name, like what was I gonna say?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I said that.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I'm glad because I think sometimes I think I'm the
only one that you know, brother, that repeats himself or
asked the same question.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
My sir and both my boys came over. You know what.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Yesterday we just lounge and watched some football, and uh,
my my youngest man, Roman, who is U is a junior.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
At s C. He's, uh, you got a few tattoos.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
And so he came in and he had what I
noticed that he had a tattoo around his forearm and
and and I asked him about it, and he's like, damn, dad,
how many times you're gonna ask me about this tattoo?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Every time I see you? You asked me about tattoos.
How many times you're don't ask me about it? In
my mind, I was like, that was the first time
I asked you.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Say no, you asked me every time I see you
in the I got a shirt that's short that you
asked me about this tattoo. It's like, man, and okay,
maybe I do you know, repeat myself, but man, yeah,
I'm with you with the bending over thing and you
don't notice it until somebody else points it out.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
It's like, why you know, why why are you walking
like that? Why are you bending over like that? Why
you why are you standing like that?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Like I don't even think about how I'm standing or
I'm walking or anything like.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
That, But do you think it's a function of the
fact you guys played, or it's just a function of age.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I think both. Yes, it's both.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
It's both because we're so used to playing through injuries
and and just you know, getting through week to week,
and you you know, you limp through in the week,
and then you get ready to play on Saturday and
Sundays and you get through it, and then you start
limping again on Monday. And I think it's just a
function of just old age, absolutely, but also just the
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kind of way we've gotten through weeks during the time
that we played that you just you know, you compensate
for certain things like I walk. I you know, I
have my neighbor place and I walk and there it'd
be random people or people that I know that see
me walking, and why you limping? I don't even feel
myself limping. I don't feel myself limping. I don't feel
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certainly I'm not hurting in that knee anymore. But you
get so used to just adapting to the way you
where you are right now, even if you're not feeling
like you got pain in it, you just automatically limp
at least I do, and and people will notice it,
and you don't know you know yourself, don't notice it
until other people pointed out, well.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I don't know. I notice it for myself. I mean
because when I get up in the mornings, I mean,
I'm I'm actually been over. I mean, you know, it
takes me a minute, so I know it. I mean,
I got a mirror in the room. So I walked
by the by the mirror and I'm like, damn, you look.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Like a hundred years that guy who that man was?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
It was a man.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
It was a guy in my hometown named mister Snap
and mister Snap have been the country. You got all
kind of nicknames, if kind of nickname mister Snap, right,
his name was mister Snap. Missus Snap always had his
hands behind his back and it was bent like a
like almost like an ale shape, looking at the ground,
and I'm like, why does that man walk like that?
And my dad said he had he had a bad back.
(05:13):
I mean, and I find myself walking like Mr Snap.
Now sometime I get up in the morning, I'm looking,
I'm looking at the ground. You know, I can't stand
up straight. Then finally as time goes on, I can
get eat it up and I can stand up straight.
But it's just it's tough, man, and it is the worst.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Was ever a time when you guys played, and I
know a week one everybody's hurt. But was there ever
a time where you guys played where you could say,
five six weeks nothing hurt, Everything was fine. You never
got dinged up at all. You just got lucky and
didn't feel anything for like five or six games.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, I mean it.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Possibly I can't remember that for a back for you
telling about forty years, but possibly I won't forget we
I think it was my It was my rookie seat
and we had played the Detroit Lions and I had
my first big game one hundred and ninety nine yards.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And uh, I'm in.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I'm in a a a at a club right there
at where the old Fridays used to be riding, you know,
right there in Marina.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
It was a c It's a club right across Marina,
r right across. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
So I'm in the I'm in, I'm in the bathroom
and I mean that what he's you know, going the restroom.
And the guy said, man, he said the Rams play today. Man,
and said yeah, man. I heard the guy say, like
Eric Dickinson over there, he said man, that ain't no
Eric Dickinson.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Man, that man ran the ball thirty times today.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
He probably at home Land in a tub and something
like that.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
And they said, man, you Eric Dickinson. I said yeah.
He said, man, what the hell you doing in this club?
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Man?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You ran the ball so much. I thought you'd be
beat all up. I said, no.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I mean I was young. I was like two twenty two.
I'm like no, I said, I feel fine.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
So you know that that's it. But you know age
has age plays a factor into it. You know how
you feel. You know when you're younger, you know, those
little nicks and aches and pains don't don't hit you
as hard as they do when you in your late.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Twenties early thirties. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Yeah, So to try to go back and describe, you know,
what you felt like, were there weeks and I think
it was more. It's more about age where it didn't
bother you like it bothers you like you know when
you're in your thirties, Because when you're in thirties, I
guarantee you after a game, Eric wouldn't be in the club.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
He would be in you know.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
In the house house having hot packs in the in
the steam room or in the in the djakuzzie, trying
to heal up, because you know you got to get
back at it the next week, and you try to
do whatever it took to get back to the feeling
that you have for Sunday. So I think age is
the most important thing when you talk about how.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Do you recover?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Hey, Eric, when you were playing and Rodney, you were
in Detroit and Philly back then. But Eric, when you
were playing in the NFL, you know you mentioned Fridays
in the marina. I thought you were going to say,
like the right on your woodland hills, but you weren't that.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Like, these red onions were nice too, And I said
they read they were nice. They were in Orange County too.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, I mean, Eric, where were the places you hung
out back in the day, And how many of them
were still open?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Oh, come on, freend the place is closed. No places
kidding me? Forty years later.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I mean, that's like going back to see some of
the same girls when I wouldn't think they're gonna look
the same, and you go there, I went to a club,
I mean it was I went to call Us and
Charlie's was the spot on Monday nights.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Uh miss remember Miss twenty four K twenty four carried.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
God.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
It was a place under the under the Beverly Center.
I can't think of the name of it. Oh man.
It was so many, it was so it was snow
that place. It was so many clubs. Fred, I mean,
you want to go from like spot to spot. But
call us and Charlotte on Monday night that was the spot.
I mean on sun said I met, I mean I
met Prince there, Rick James, me me and Rick James
(08:57):
became friends.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I mean I met Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Was you meet everybody would go to college and Charlie's
on month Monday night was and it was a small spot.
It was really small. I mean yeah, but but it
was the spot to go to.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
There was h at one point the China Club in
La was kinda forgot about the China Club, right, the
China clubs and nice spot three to four three to
four year run at the China Club was nice too.
You know Roxbury Sunset.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
The rocks of Roxbury at the Roxbury Where did you go, Fred?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Go anywhere?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Go ahead? Mask, I didn't go anywhere, Fred, go anywhere?
You go out at all?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Fred, I really didn't. I'm trying to remember. I really
didn't go off.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I got off the air at eleven thirty, Fred, and
you know I go You still had the whole night
ahead of you.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Man, you you know you no, No, I'll tell.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
You where you go.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Go to a place called Dalton Burbank. It's now Capitol Grew.
It used to be a claim jumper McCormick and schmecks.
But back in the day, and that in that high
rise building. Yes that's on the corner, yes, all of
it whatever, that's where we'd go. We go adults almost
every night. Wow all wow, you know another place that
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we'd got all right, But I mean I I didn't
go to clubs. We'd go to the Money Tree into
Local Lake, which is now Foreman's.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
The money Tree, the money Tree once upon a time
in Hollywood, Warms. I didn't know it used to be
money Tree.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
That's what That's what it was once upon a time
in Hollywood. The movie with Brad Pitt. Mm hmm, I
think that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
They redid Riverside Boulevard to make it look like it
did back then, and they took down the Foreman sign
and put up money tree and everything, and they shot
right on the corner there of a riverside and foreman,
people went outside and watched them shoot it.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Oh yeah, that's where I go, so you you.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
It was more of a what like a restaurant eatery
place after after work the people would go or just
have cocktails with it, like just cocktails.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
No club, yeah, like Frank Sinatra, lownd singers or what
was it like?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Man that there were no lounge singers. There there was
a place and maybe Kevin remembers the name. Uh there
was a place across.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Skevin not as old as you fished.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
No, but he might remember Dimples.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I did say, I said out loud to Katie. He
was like, how the hell this? But yes, Dimples right
across from us here. Yes, now there's a whole. Now
there's a whole foods.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
But it used to be a karaoke bar named Dimples.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yes, right, everybody would go to Dimple's. That'd be another
place right across the street. They'd go there and hang out.
But I was in club guy, I didn't do that.
There was a place on Ventura Boulevard that my friend
Steve Summers, who was the weekend guy, when I got here,
went too called the Hot Club. Remember the Hot Club? Anybody?
How about Stanley's Clubs? I remember Stanley.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, yeah, Stanley's. I remember Stanley's.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, it was in Stanley's that Rogan's Heroes was name.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
That's name.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Here's what happened. We went in, we're drinking, I'm at
the bar, and we did this thing called Plays of
the Week and they were the great plays of the Week.
And a bartender looks at me and he goes, Hogan Heroes,
Rogan Heroes. I went boom. And that's how we named
Rogan Heroes. It was the bartender at Stanley's.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
He gat a name. That's getting you get any money? No,
you can give him any money for naming Who do
you think you who?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
You think you're talking to Rodney? You know you're talking
to mister Chief himself.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
You talk.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
That's mister Benny over there. They's the that's the true
mister Benny right there.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Give it up, no money, man, and created the name
Fred that you you ran with for twenty years and
you didn't give him.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
A stolen That's what he said, as I could use it.
I do think that. But then I never went back
and to ask.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Him, right, you didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Oh remember the Hall of Shame?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Will we do that?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
The bloopers? You know where that came from. It was
a thing in the Austin American Statesman newspaper. When I
worked in Austin, they had a little little box down
on the corner every day called Hall of Shame. And
the stupidest thing that happened. I went, I like that name.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
That's where you stole it from?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Hall of Shame.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, another thief here it is.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You know, I'd like to say I steal from the best.
Now you got it, Take no problem, take no prisoners.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Were you send them from the brothers?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Though? No?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
No, oh no, no, no, no, no, no see me,
come see me? Oh no, Eric, I got that down Ford.
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Speaker 2 (14:03):
All right, well we'll continue with that, but let's get
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Speaker 2 (14:46):
Last hour. We talked about Emmanuel class the pitcher for
the Cleveland Guardians, and his teammate or yes, Guardians and
his teammate, Luis Hortiz, both of them in big trouble
because they basically rigged things when they were pitching because
of prop beats. Claus A thought I would throw every
first pitch in the dirt wide inside, so if you
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bet my first pitch would be a ball, you'd win. Well,
Baseball found out, so do the FEDS, and that's going
to end their career, and you go, well, what does
that mean? You know, is it that big of a problem.
At the World Table Tennis event in Nigeria, they had
the same issue. People were considering throwing World Table Tennis
(15:29):
matches for money, people betting, and it got so bad
that the governing body had to jump in and look
at it. And now they may have a betting problem in.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
World table tennis.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Oh lord, yeah, world table tennis may have real table tennis.
You get a problem in world table tennis for it,
then all hell is breaking loose. Now may when it
gets to that li, when it gets to that level,
love all that God, and got to pick a ball,
because if it is pick a ball then and then everything.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Is all lost.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
All bets are off, All bets are off for real,
literally and figuratively the man, world table tennis, the betting.
But do you understand the insanity of this? You understand
the lunacy in this?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I mean, I don't understand. If you're making millions of dollars,
I mean millions of dollars, why would you bet take
a chance on that losing that for what? Let's sten
let's let's just say it was one hundred thousand dollar.
Let's use that number. That's a big number. Well you're
gonna take You're gonna take a chance on losing your
income over that. And you're making twenty five thirty to
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forty million dollars a year. That makes no sense. That
means you, I mean, you just you're just dumb basically,
I mean, whatever that was breaking.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
It down problems, dumb does.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
And then and then from what I'm you know we
understand about the baseball guys, is that there were what
text messages going back and forth that they call it's like,
you're gonna do it this one thing, but man, you
left the whole paper trail on this. And I was
saying ed in last hour about how because of these
prop bets, you know, those bets that you can bet,
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oh is it is it gonna be a run or
a pass or is it gonna be you know, you're
gonna you know how many punks gonna be in a game,
and how many you know, is he gonna miss the
first field goal? Miss all those things you can bet on.
And you know, you got friends and cousins and everybody
and their brother. You know that you don't necessarily know
that they all, you know, they are all on the
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up and up, but they try to gain information from you.
And I'm saying that's that's kind of how it starts.
It's like you get a you get a friend from
college or you get a buddy and say, hey, you
guys are supposed to be running the ball on these
guys because they give up three hundred plus yards rushing
the game. You guys are gonna run a lot. You
think you're gonna you think you're gonna carry the ball
more than twenty times? Ed, you know, you're like, man,
(18:01):
I don't know, I don't know what's going on, but probably,
and that's all they need. They go run to the
bookie and go easy.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
He said it. He said they're gonna run more than
twenty times.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
And that's how easy these guys can get caught up.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
But then when you put.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
You know, text messages on it, these guys obviously were
more involved in that because those are casual conversations. But
these guys had text messages and saying that you want
me to throw a ball here, you want me to
throw it outside, I'm gonna throw it outside and it's
gonna be ball one or ball two, whatever it was.
They were so specific that they the Fed's got them.
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They got him.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
So so okay, So I don't know these guys. So
they played baseball baseball right now?
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Leave?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Okay, So how my picture? So how old are these guys?
Are young? The lege?
Speaker 6 (18:51):
What?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
But they're not.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I don't think they're in their thirty set. Okay, so
early they're in there. They're in their prime.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, the prime. So so now, so how much money
they're making? I mean, which guy? I mean you think
you were fifteen.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
They're in the double digit millions. Yeah, I would say
classmate for sure, right is in the ten eleven million dollars?
Inn't he somewhere around there? You guys, class as the
big guy. He was about to be one of the
biggest free agents. Ed uh, this this past trade deadline
in July. He was about there. There were gonna be
a lot of people after him for trade and he
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was he was on the verge of probably making a
lot of money, a lot of money because he was
top three in the think in the American League in
terms of closer relievers, and now you know, about to
be you know, facing prison charges.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
So basically they gonna he'll be out of the MLB, basically.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Be not And the word was that that, you know,
the money that he was going to make on some
of these deals were not that great. It was like
what Fred like twelve fifteen thousand dollars or something like that.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I said, it's if it was one hundred grand, it
wouldn't be what so what all right?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
He was making four million a year, five year, twenty
million dollars deal.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Okay, four million dollars a year, so you just four feitted.
So now that's right. Your contract is void. Oh you're
automatica yeah, you're done. So so you kicked out of it.
So basically you can't play no baseball. You know, maybe softball.
Someone maybe fast pitched softball in the prison league. In
the prison league. Yeah, that is amazing to me. I mean,
(20:30):
same as the NBA. So these guys making all this
money and they taking but making what twelve thousand, fifteen,
twenty thousand dollars if of for bet that, And that's right.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
That's worth. That's what losing your career behind.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Never never anybody ever reproached you about gambling when you
were playing er.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
No, never, And I've been like, are you out of
your mind? No, no, man, I would never do that
for it. It That's just that's me. I mean, I mean,
that's I mean that to me, that's that's the integrity
of the game. I mean, look, you know in football,
you know they're gonna cheat anyway, They're gonna try to
get your plays and all that kind of stuff. But
now you're talking about a whole different kind of level
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of cheating when all of a sudden, you're trying to
I'm gonna fumble the ball on this play, or I
know that you know, our kickers struggling, so you know,
if we kick, you might want to take a bet
on some of the kicks. You know, I wouldn't sound
that sounds crazy to me, but people do it.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
They do it. They do it, man, and they do
it on a regular basis. And a lot of times
it's people that they know that get them caught up
into it. You know what I'm saying. You know, it's
a cousin cousin say, hey, man, I got a guy
that can make me some money. I'm behind on this,
I'm behind on that. I don't need anything from you.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Just let me know.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Y'all gonna, y'all gonna, y'all think, y'all gonna you're gonna
throw it more than twenty five times today?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Or or how many? How many? How many? Is so much?
So we gonna play? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Is the right tackle, left tackle? Is he gonna play today?
And they ask you those kind of questions, which should
always raise a red flag if you got somebody, even
somebody that you know, start asking, you know, what's the
injury report on a on a Thursday or Friday. But
it happens. It happens. It's like you think you guys
gonna cover or it's not as blatant as that as
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it could be. Like I said, you guys think you're
gonna throw it more than twenty times today? And there's
a bet, there's a bet out there that guys can
bet on will the rams pass more than twenty attempts
or less than twenty attempts? And people can bet on
that and make them make money on it. And all
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it takes is somebody to call into a friend of
a friend and say, hey, as ask Matthew Stafford or
ask pooking the cour does he think that that you
guys are gonna throw the ball more than twenty times?
And that's like, that's like, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
When the court droped it, you're gonna throw you the
first bet drop it?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I bet he dropped the first pass.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I mean, yeah, am you tell you talking about these guys,
these NBA players they're making when was I saw twenty
six million dollars a year? You're gonna throw that away
for Like I said, I'm going high one hundred grand.
You're gonna throw that away for one hundred thousand dollars
fifty twenty on some bets. That's just that is sheer
stupidity to me. I mean, you get what you deserve.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Didn't Somebody used to talk to you guys. The doctor
Boudreau guy would come in and talk about.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
This kind of thing. Doctor Budo did come in. The
doctor guy, Doctor Budau was the guy. He was they
were talking about.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
We talked Doctor Eric.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I didn't know it too well. They leave, They come
in and talk to you about you They come and
talk to you about it. They have people come and
tell you about by drugs, about the drugs.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
They come and talk about you know, women, you know,
getting caught up in scandals and all that kind of stuff.
You know, we talk about gambling too, Yeah, they talk
about They talked about gambling, and they talked about everything.
Then they they said, well, look we have a the
situation has happened a couple of times a guy named
doctor Boudreau, and you know, you'll go to the hotel
and you know, because we couldn't go to the bar
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at the hotel, and I think this was stopped it
and your hold. You get to go to another bar
outside of the hotel. I think about this bread. I'm
standing to Marryott, but I can't go to the bar
in the hotel. I got to go to the bar
across the street or down the street. I can't go
to my because what happened is doctor Boudreau would come
to your hotel. Hey, you know, I'm to have somebody call. Hey,
this is doctor Budreau's office. I'm Stacy, and you know,
(24:28):
he just wants to welcome you to the city. And
he liked to have a drink with you tonight, maybe
him something his his assistance.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Okay, that sound cool.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
So boom, you go to the bar, you know, meet
doctor Budreaux at the bar at your hotel and you're
having a few drinks.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
What did doctor Boudreau look like?
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I have no sometimes I never saw doctor he was
black or white.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
I know, never had a real picture of doctor bud.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
We had the stories, and you know, you hear some
guys so so good caught up by doctor Mudreaux.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I want some of the guys you'd hear about it.
But if it really happened or not.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
So anyway, you wind up in your room, wake up
the next morning with some photographs on the bed, you know,
if you you know, he might put his penis next
to your mouth.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Or something like that, you know, and they blackmailing.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
They're blackmailing guys, and that's what that's and and that's
what was happening. They were blackmailing some of the players
because you know, they wasn't indulgent in that. But he
had drugged them. He had drugged them or the women
had drugged them, and they got him up to the room.
And some guys are married, you know, they may show
them with with a woman on sitting on top of
him naked or something like that. You know, guys start
trying to pay up. So that's what that's the doctor
(25:38):
Boudreaux story.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, but but during that conversation they would also talk
about gambling.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Ye Like, it would be yeah, well security we're talking
about they were talking they were talking about gamble.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
They would explain, Yeah, they would talk about this is
different ways guys would would try to approach you. Just
be aware of, you know, certain guys asking you specific
things about the game. If it's not you know, somebody
within the organization. Somebody may have, you know, buy you
a drink and say, you know, they start asking you,
you know, do you think you're gonna cover or how
(26:14):
many yards you think you're gonna throw for? Or how
many you know yards you're gonna run for. When there
was conversation, they would like triggers that that they told
you to look out for. So yeah, they had those conversations.
But then you know, a lot of times those those
go in and in one air and.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Out the other.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Which is why doctor Boudreau lasted for so long because
he had a scheme with the girl. He had a
pretty girl meets you as you go the girl, the girl,
you think you're going up the room and the girl's
gonna be in the room, and the girl may be
in the room, but she drugs you, and then all
of a sudden, you drugged and he's taking compromising pictures
of you in the room and then leaves, like Eric said,
(26:50):
leaves them on the bed, or sends them to sends
them to an address, or your facility, sends them to
the to the league or your team facility. And you
get a package and looking at the package, going, oh lord,
you don't want this to go to your.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Wife or go to the media. And you better pay
me fifty that fifty thousand dollars. And that's how doctor
bou Drove would get it done. He would have the
girls work for him.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Scary quite That's what I never knew. What doct That's
a good question. I don't know what doctor Drove looked like.
I never I never saw him. I just heard the story. Yeah,
we drove got another one.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Again again. He liked, he liked, he liked, he liked
the Bema, the opera.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
So Eric, when you guys were flying for a not
a town game. You get in on Saturday night, Saturday.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Sometimes we come in Friday, like when we go to
New York, We're coming on Friday, Chicago, were coming on Friday,
New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I won't forget we played New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
We left, we played Chicago on the Monday night and
went straight to New Orleans. From that Monday night game
set that all week. That was a bad idea. I
knew a bad idea. He was in Bourbon Street all week,
all week, all we all week.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
M hm, you know we're doing all kind of doing
all kind of stuff. Got I got out got our
ass whooped too by the Saints the next day that
that Sunday. That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
So when you go, is there a curfew, is there
a bed check or you guys do whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
It's a it's a curfew the night before the game,
but like when you there for like four days, like okay, well,
say we flow to New York and we got there
on Friday, that Friday, we got that Friday. I don't
think it was a curfew Friday night.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
It was. I don't think it was no curfew Friday night.
If it was, it might be it was later.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
It was like it was like one o'clock maybe like
a one o'clock perk curfew, because normally curfew was I
think ten or eleven, like the night before the game
the curfew maybe like at ten o'clock. It looks like
you have, you know, I have to have a dinner
with the team, and then you go to your room
and they come check. They come give a bed check,
but you know, bad check. You're doing all kind of stuff. Man,
I'm telling you, girls in the room, girls in the room.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I went, man, oh yeah, I've heard yeah during bed check.
Oh yeah, young young man. Yeah, girl got a girl
under the under the bed.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
You get, yeah, a guy who sneak the girls in,
like at nine o'clock. You being, Yeah, you come in early,
and you be in uh you know, you're you have
a team meeting or a late teen meal snack, you know,
around nine o'clock, and then curfew was at eleven, so
you know, while everybody's down eating or having a meeting,
(29:26):
you know, you have the girls be in the room.
And then then you'd either sneak in the closet or
behind the curtains or wherever maybe and they'd be there
all night.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I got fined.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I got fined the Pro Bowl for having the good
in the room because I didn't go to practice. I
went to the practice the next day.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I was out all night. Man.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I think I got in like five in the morning
and practice bus was leaving like eight o'clock. And I
told him, I said, man, I got a real bad headache,
and I got it. I think I got a real
bad hold. I got a fever. Never forget uh. Tom
Landry's got there. They were that the Cowboys. They were
he was the coach for the Pro Bowl. So I'm
in the man it's like I don't know, two o'clock.
(30:12):
On one o'clock, I got a knock on the door,
and it's just in to day one o clock in
the afternoon. I looked at the pep hole. I see
a doctor gyside. I said, who is it?
Speaker 1 (30:21):
This is doctor someone sow from the Dollar cowboys.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I said, okay, all right, hold on a second. I
tell her go in the path through through.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
So she jumps up, going, I said, I said, man,
put some pants on, some shorts on. So he comes in.
He says, how are you feeling? I said, you know,
I feel out. I'm not feeling that good. Take my temperature,
you know, uh yeah, take my blood pressure and stuff.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
He said, you might for use your.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Restroom, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I said no. I said no, go ahead. He goes in.
I'm right out. He said, you're.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Okay, I said, I said, did he see? He said,
oh yeah, he pulled the curtain back on the shower.
She said, sitting in this finally said he pulled the
curtain back and saw me.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I got fined. I got fined.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I think I got found five hundred dollars one thousand. Man,
I tell you I would never do that. Crap bowl, you
know what. Needed all the money, need that little money.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, wait a minute. He walked out and he goes,
you'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
He said, you'll be okay.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Right, he knew it wasn't He knew he wasn't sick.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
He was like, okay, this is what I think.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
And the killer and the kid, the kicker was to think.
The girl was naked in the shower. That was the
kicker too.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
He said, he you'll be okay, Like okay, it's like
he almost gave you thumbs up. Okay, yeah right right,
be all right?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, isn't that funny? They set him just to see
if maybe it was able a doctor, They said, what
was going on?
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Uh, I don't kid.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, he has little he has a little doctor thing
and he's had like a little you know, doctor brief
whatever the look cage.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
They came.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
He had his head, his thermometer and the blood pressure
machine and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
That was funny.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
You had then you had coaches that were that that new,
you know, and some of them were cool. Then you
had you know, depending on who was doing bet check
that night, and you had some coaches that were like
all right, man, I know I know, just get her
out by by new or get her out, get her out,
get out before.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
The morning, before anybody sees her. Just just make sure
she's out of here.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
And they would have conversations and they said that, okay,
you know, guys would try to hide them or whatever,
and the and the coach was, Okay, I know, I
know you got her in there, so you know, just
come on out, come on out. Most of most of
the coaches knew the guys that were, you know, doing
something after curfew, they knew, they knew the coaches. Yes,
(32:59):
I remember we snuck out one time in Philadelphia. You know,
we were at I forget what training camp was was
at Lehigh I believe it was. And so it was like,
you know, you know, four days in the training camp,
it feels like two weeks. You know, it feels like
it feels like you've been there forever. So it was
like one of those nights, we're like, okay, let's let's
(33:20):
all get out. We're gonna go to this this spot
down the street, and uh, everybody meeting the parking lot
and we just get there and go there and blah
blah blah. And it was one of the coaches that
was had bed check because they rotated coaches rotated during
training camp who had bedcheck. And we had a cool
coach that was like, Okay, I ain't gonna say nothing,
but y'all just be careful, be careful.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
We know you're gonna sneak out. We know you gotta
get out.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
So we're out at this at this bar in Pennsylvania
and there's there's about ten of us that are out
after curfew, and I there's a there's the bartender and
a phone brings a phone to me and says, hey,
(34:05):
Ray Rhose is on the phone.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
He want to talk. They knew exactly where we were because.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
They got spies, right, they got spies. They know who's where,
what's going on. So he knew that we were at
this bar, and he was like, all right, man, y'all
He's like. Ray was like, I know, I know all
y'all are there. And I got the word that all
y'all are out there doing your things. So just don't
be out too late, be out too late, and if
and if any of y'all late for practice tomorrow, I'm
finding all y'all.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
So just make sure everybody gets home safe. And it
was you know, because he was cool.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
He was a player, so he understood they you know,
sometimes you got to get out and just let your
hair down a little bit. But that was funny that
the Bartenders handed me the phone. Hey, it's your coach
on the phone.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
So that's that's that's the life of NFL player for it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Four, The NFL Spotlight is presented by Ford. How good
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Speaker 4 (35:29):
Oh yeah, let's keep it moving on the forward NFL
Spotlight on a Monday. Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan, Hall of
Famer Eric Dickerson, come on, all right.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
So Matthew Stafford looked really good yesterday. First of all,
I think the Rams really did a good job against
those guys, really did a terrific job against them. And
that being said, the kind of year that Matthew Stafford
is having and Eric, I mean he's throwing I think
twenty five touchdowns and two picks something like that. Rodney, Yeah,
I think yeah, yeah. I mean he's having a terrific year.
(36:04):
How good a year is he having? In your opinion, Eric,
I think it's having a historic year right now. He
keeps playing like he's playing.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
This is the last you know, three games.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I think no other quarterback in the NFL history has
thrown four touchdowns in three consecutive games. And I mean
the passes that he throws. I mean I looked at
the one that he threw. It was was it last week?
He threw the pookah who they played the week before,
whoever they played? It was a pass toward the en
zone to the corner of the end zone. Man, I'm like, damn,
(36:38):
that was that was like on a rope.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
It was.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
It was a perfect pass that the defender was in
a perfect position, but he couldn't make the play. I
just believe he's having one of those years that you
wish that you could have. You know that, you know
it's as a quarterback, I mean right, and you can
speak for it as a quarterback, you know, like you
you're just on fire. And they asked him about you know,
the no look past, but you know, he's notorious for that.
(37:01):
And the thing is, Matthew staffort it. Fred has been
playing like this for years. He really has the problem
with it is he was in Detroit. He was there
on bad football teams with no help. You know, his
big receiver was Calvin Johnson. And he said that the
way that he started, you know, the kind of no
look past, was that they knew he wanted to throw
it to Calvin, but he wouldn't look at him and he'd.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Throw it to him anyway.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
I mean, so, I mean you saw someone the passes
he threw, he was like, he would even look at
that direction and he throw it. DeVante Adams said he's
never seen anything like it, you know, the way he
can throw the ball not looking at you and throw it.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
You know, spot on.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
So but really, when you look at his his production
this year so far, let's hope it, you know, it
keeps going.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I mean, he's he's at the top. He I mean,
I think right now he's the MVP. If the season
is it right now, he'd beat the MVP.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
I don't know if there's clearly to me, it's not
even a question right now, who's playing the best football
right now in terms of the court position when you're
talking about twenty five touchdowns, two interceptions, and the way
he's leading this team and the way they are playing
like a well oiled machine. And the only thing for
(38:14):
the Rams is they just gotta they gotta stay healthy
and keep everybody healthy, right, And that's obviously that's the
thing with with every NFL team, But they can't get
hurt on key positions. Puka and DeVante Adams together, they
got two number one receivers. They got two number ones.
You know, teams are struggling to have just one number
(38:34):
one receiver and they got two that can kill you,
and you know from the tight end. And then you
throw in Sean McVay and how creative he is offensively.
Those two guys head coach, I don't know if there's
a better head coach quarterback combination than McVeigh and Stafford.
It's like they are one like they they they know
(38:56):
each other and feel each other so well that I'm
trying to go back to think of what quarterback coach
combination was a better fit than these two guys, because
they are on the same page on so many levels
that McVeigh doesn't have to worry that Stafford's going to
(39:17):
get him in the right play. Who's going to make
the right decision or they have prepared all week for
different situations, and they all are on the same page.
And then at Stafford's age at thirty seven, he's seen
it all, you know. And you know, sometimes you get
to a point where the game slows way down for
(39:38):
you and it looks like he's playing, you know, at
a level where everybody everything's going in slow motion for
him and he's seeing the whole field. But the Rams
are a team because they are running the ball now too.
And the defense has been, you know, been very very good.
But they're running the football, throwing the football. It's not
just it's just just one side. They can beat you
(40:01):
running the football now too. And again it comes down
to just health. And if they stay healthy, I think
they roll. I think they roll through the NFC in
terms of the playoff picture and everything like that, and
that includes Philadelphia. I think Philadelphia. They get them in
a situation where they can get Philadelphia here as opposed
(40:21):
to you know, it may be crazy cold or rainy,
but even think about last year, even in the snow
and the cold in Philadelphia, they had a beat They
had the ball on the twenty yard line going in
to win it and they didn't get it done. But
this year they are I don't know where the weakness
is on this Rams team right now. They're playing at
(40:43):
such a high level that they are the best team
to me in the NFC.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Well, the one thing is that they can't do what
they did in the Philly and they did with San
Francisco's turned the football over. I said that last year
in that playoff game and went down there. They talked
about how great Philly we. I said, Philly has got
a great football team. I said, the deal is, I
think like they's a better coach. I think that if
you took a look at talent, and the talent on
both teams are probably equal. I said, Phillips defense probably
(41:08):
is a little bit better. But I said, if we
don't turn the football over, I said, we'll beat them.
I said, no, if we turn the football up, we
won't beat them. I sure enough, who we turned the football,
we didn't beat them. That that was our catalyst and
it was still it was still it was still six points.
I think the thing and even this game here, I
think one of the big things is is that, you know,
and you don't see a lot I think about right,
they do it.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
They did a lot of three tight.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
End sets, you know, with with with Perkinson, Higbee and Ferguson.
I mean, and it called San Francisco a lot of problems.
You can run it, you can throw it, and you've
got three athletic tight ends.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
You got to run athletic tight that our threat, our
threat in the passing game, not just you know, because
a lot of times you have one guy that's an
analytic tight end that kind of plays in between like
a receiver tight end type, right, and then the other
two are usually big blockers. They're they're glorified offensive tackle.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Based offensive facules, right. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
But they got three guys that are athletic tight ends
that you line up and you better put you better
put a very good safety because you put a linebacker
on them, they're gonna beat the linebacker. They're gonna beat
the linebacker in any route that they run. So they
are very versatile and what they can do offensively right now,
and it's it's fun to watch them play.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
That's what and that's what happened yesterday with the tight ends.
They've tried to put a they tried to put a
linebacker on them. I think it was I think it
was on Ferguson and and he beat him. I mean
you can't not only yeah, I mean if if you can,
if you got these tight ends that are athletic and
run and they can block, because you know, the thing
that the game is different, it's faster now, I mean
(42:44):
it's it's a little faster from you know, they want
to make you know, to get to the line and
you know.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Get off the ball right quick.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
And these tight ends are big, physical, can run and
catch players. And yesterday they really had San Francisco thrown
off for the three tight ends.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
You could see it.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
And you got to make a choice. If you're a
defensive coordinator, you're Robert Sala, you gotta make a choice
of how you play that. Do you play it big
or do you play because if you play with you know,
nickel and bringing an extra extra defensive back or two
extra defensive back, they gonna run the ball down your throat,
you know, because they're more you're gonna be more physical
(43:21):
than then then if you say, okay, we can't hold up,
you know, physically, so we gotta we gotta play with
more linebackers, so we got to play our base defense
and not bringing an extra defensive back that we lose,
you know, seventy pounds, so we gotta we gotta stop
be able to stop the run. Then the tight ends
(43:41):
are matched up against linebackers who don't cover that well.
And those tight ends were killing them. So they got
the best of both worlds. When you've got three tight
ends that are athletic and can run routes, but also
if you try to go small on them, they will
out physical you and run the ball down your throat,
which we saw.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
And that's the that's what they did yesterday. They were
more physical than San Francisco was. And look, I know
San Francisco has has a lot of injuries, but and
I gonna say that ain't my problem. I don't care
about San Francisco problem.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
The Board NFL Spotlight is presented by board.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
All Rodney.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
I don't know what these guys at USC are doing. Seriously, Hey,
I know, if you ain't rubbing youmanship gamesmanship? Yeah, all right,
we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
What how long eight after? Okay,
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