November 10, 2025 • 34 mins
USC used a little trickery in their win over Northwestern that was frowned upon by some. Its Lit features an update on the UCLA-SoFi-Rose Bowl situation. The Chargers dominated the Steelers on Sunday Night Football.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Now right, we continue on on this Monday e ed
with us later this hour.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Kevin will be along.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
A lot has happened since we've been on for about
two hours and fifteen minutes, and you'll get us caught
up on everything with its lip. So, uh, USC ye
beat Northwestern, which is good because USC doesn't have to
leave the Big Ten. Now, if Northwestern had beaten the Trojans,
Trojans were out.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
You say that every week.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
No I don't, Oh, no, I don't. If Northwestern would
have won, that would have been an issue. But they
don't beat Nebraska. They gott to leave the Big They
don't be Michigan this time. They gotta. No, they're tough
for you to be. You gotta beat Northwestern and they
did thirty eight seven West those slouts. Now Northwestern can play.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
This. They had to be every game. They got a
tough rude they got to play. They gotta play Iowa,
who played Oregon to the wire. And you know, the
weather was crazy and made it closer than organ like,
but still i was a good football team. Bill Well
coached physical football team that they got to come into
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town and then they also have to go to Oregon.
So the s he's got a tough road. But if
they get through it, they are in the conversation for
the playoff run. Yeah, they're having a good year. They
really are having a good year.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
But we do want to discuss the moment when the
backup quarterback put on the punters jersey during a fake
fake punt conversion.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You want to talk about that, Rodney, No, you tell
me what happened for it?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I saw it. What happened, Fred? What did they do? Well,
here's what they did.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
They basically the end of Big Ten, by the way,
said they should have been penalized for this. Two players
wearing the same number lined up at the same position
during the game as part of a trick play.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
That's what happened.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Fourth and sixth on their own forty six, A player
wearing number eighty j down to the field to set
up for a punt. It seemed to be normal. However,
when number eighty took the snap, instead of booting the
ball down field, he swobled his hips to pass and
found a freshman for a ten yard completion at a
first down. USC punter Sam Johnson wears number eighty. He
didn't throw that pass. It was third string quarterback Sam
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hewart Us. He's coaching staff made a number change before
the game, listing Hewart is number eighty. The senior had
worn number seven in previous games this year.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
That's what they did.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, they made it known before the game that he
was gonna wear number eighty, Fred, didn't they not? You
just read that they they did it before the game. Yes, yes,
So what's your problem that makes it legal?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Well, when you have two eighties lined up next to
each other, that's a problem.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
That's probably Hey, hey, be ready, be ready. You see it?
Oh oh, eight to eighty. That's a different eighty that
we saw. There's a different eighty in the game in
the back and the back up. He threw a great past.
That was past, perfect past. I know he's lefty. Oh
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wait a minute, we see something different. It's oh time out?
How about that? How about that?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
For it?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It time out? Something is going on right here. We
gotta we gotta pay attention to this time out. Flats
in the hen house. Yeah there you got the fox
in the hen house. All these hens don't look alike.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I clucking right now. It worked too, It worked, Oh.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Good work, and legally, you know they did what they
said they were gonna do they put number eighty in.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, yeah, but come on, come on, I give him
credit because it worked there.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, the comment you should have been penalized probably, hey,
but they weren't, and they they you know, they went
over it and then the officials didn't penalize them.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
So what do you want sc to do?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
What they did? Yeah, exactly what they did. Exactly what
they did, exactly what they did. It's a competitive business, Fred,
you gotta find edges.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
You got to find.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Ways to win by winning. They winning. You know what
does ed always say when you complain? That's what losers say?
That what loss always said. Man, we had him, Man,
we had that number eighty, and now we have had them.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
You know, I understand there's a lot of guys on
a college football team, but this guy, this dual number thing,
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, I'm with it. I don't like that. I'm I'm
with it too. I don't like I'm with that.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I don't like it either, because in college you can
you do often Sometimes you see guys play both ways
and you see the number and say, wait, number seven,
he's a receiver, but yet number seven is also a
defensive back. But who's who and what are they doing?
I don't I don't like it either. You know another
thing I don't like that bothers me so bad. When
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I see a three hundred and fifty pound defensive linemen
wearing number six, wear.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
A single digit, a single number, got his jersey and
gut is hanging all over his pants, and he is,
like I said, about three six foot three fitty and
wearing number six or number he's wearing number eight.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
It just does not look right.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
It still needs to be some kind of regulation that
if you're gonna play on the defensive line, then you
gotta wear You gotta wear the appropriate number. You gotta
be seventy something or ninety something, you know, fifty something,
but you can't wear you can't wear a number or
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a single digit number as a defensive lineman.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Like the guy, the big star, the stud they got
from Penn State. I forget his name, but he's a
he's a big time player. He's number twenty eight and
he plays defensive tackle. He plays the same position like
Warren Sapp played number twenty eight, twenty eight. He's wearing
number twenty.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
He must have been a running back before at some point.
But you know he was right. You know, growing up
he was a running back. Yeah, he wasn't running back.
I want that same number I had in Pop Warner.
I want that number.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
I want that number Duke's eight that I had in
Pop Warner when I was running touchdown. But as a
defensive lineman at three sixty, No, that doesn't go well
with me.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Fred I hate it. Now.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
What do you say to this because the quarterback at
BYU Baron Bachmeier, he wears a forty seven.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Don't right? Seven? Right right? He went to a forty seventh. Ye,
I don't like that either. I don't like that either, Kevin,
I mean, I get it.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
You know Fluti did it with twenty two when he
played at Boston College was a different thal. John Hadel
is the only one I remember back in the day
in the NFL. I think he wore twenty one, twenty one,
twenty one as a quarterback, and you know that's okay,
But yeah I didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I didn't. I don't like the forty seven at quarterback either.
I don't like that.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
I think you got a You know, certain positions need
to have a certain regulation on the numbers that they
can wear well.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
NFL are there are requirements. Now they've they've loosened those
up a bit.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Right over the years, NFL can.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Yeah, it used to be you couldn't you know, single
digits were reserved for kickers.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
And quarterbacks, not just single digits. I want to be nineteen.
You couldn't be.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Yeah, you couldn't be nineteen, right, you had to be
in the twenties, twenties or thirty running back.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, twenty right, twenty to forty.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Nine, twenty to forty nine, that's what it was. Yeah,
twenty to forty nine for a running back. And then
uh yeah, and the same thing with uh yeah, you
couldn't be a You couldn't be a single digit running back.
You couldn't be a single You couldn't even be a
single digit defensive back.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
You could be Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
I think it was the same number combination for defensive back.
We had to be twenty through through forty nine. Because
I remember I remember Dion petitioning to try to be
number two when he when he came into college when
he was two in college.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, Florida State.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Yeah, he wanted to be number two, and they wouldn't
let him do it and made him wear twenty one.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
So yeah, I just you know, I get it.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I get it with you know, with certain guys, like
like running backs. If you were a number, you know,
like nineteen in college, or you're number four in college
as running back number five like Reggie Bush, they din't
gonna let him be number five. He had to run
wear twenty five at the Saints when he first got there.
So I mean, I get that as a run.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
But when you when you three sixty three eighty, you
can't wear a single dishit that just don't look right,
don't run right.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I'm gonna take what bother I'm gonna bought me more
than that is is these guys. A matter of fact,
Roy Green called me today, you know, because he played
for the Arizona for the Arizona and the Saint Saint
Louis Cardinals, and he said he was talking about their
game because he said, man, I told you because he
kept saying, man, the RAM got a good football team,
Area RAM got a good I said, I don't know
he said that for the season anyway, He said, you
know what would piss me off with our team? He said,
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just just in general in the NFL, these guys jump
up he said, they make a tackle or they get
a sack, or they catch it first down, they jump up,
but throwing their hand at first down, you know, you
know when they when they I saw yesterday what the
defensive the ball that went over the receiver's head and
did he be like like he did?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Just right? I'm like and Roy said, we were getting
be twenty eight to nothing. I said, jumping up. I
mean that is fred, I said, what that's so frustrated.
I told my son.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I told him, I said, let me tell you something.
Don't you ever say? I said, don't you ever? I said,
if I catch you out there, you jump up on
first down or making them try to clown I said,
just know this all my dad on his way, So
let me just head to the sidelines, right, he said,
you right.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Because I'm coming to get you. I said, I messed up.
Let me just let me that.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I mean from from guys from our era, Fred that
that that's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
It bothers me as well. Well, you're down twenty twenty
something points and you're gonna jump up and go first down,
and it could be in the fourth quarter and you down,
you're getting your ass kicked.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
The whole game, and you're gonna jump up on the
first down or or defensive back like you said, the
ball didn't even come close.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
It was overthrown.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Beat beat, And then he jumps up and does the
incomplete signal, you know, like he did something for it.
And I hate it when it's first down, when they
do it. When it first you still got three more downs.
You got three more downs. You better just chill because
the next play they may be coming right at you,
you know, And and then what you're gonna do, what
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you're gonna do with you know when that happens. But
you're gonna have got beat. You're gonna say that was
me got beat. Look at that the point I got beat.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
On that boor or the other one is O other
one is or.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
And you see it, Eric, you know, you just one
for like twenty eight yards, right, and they and somebody
get a good hit on you at the end of
the twenty eight yard and they jump up and so
are celebrating that they kinds the first down.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, no, it's it's a different football. Let's put it
like that.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
And it's trickling down to like the young kids, you know,
they see that stuff to see if the NFL and
then college kids do it and the high school kids
do it, so they figure all that it's cool the
NFL guys do it, I can do it.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Too, you know. Yeah, it's yeah, it's just a man,
It's funny. It is what it is.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
And I don't want to say like yeah, we don't
want to sound like to get off my line, guys,
but man, come on, you gotta have some sort of
some sort of pride of where the game is and
what's happening in the game. You're getting beat down, you
down twenty eight points, and you're gonna jump up and
say first down.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Like it's like like it's a game. It's gonna change
the game right to nothing. Come on with foremenutes left
in the game, Yeah, come on, man.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
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caught up on what has been going on. Uh, let's see, Kevin,
are you gonna have this? Are you gonna have the
Rose Bull story in it'sland?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Kevin? I will now perfect all right, talk about that too.
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Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yes, yes, damn, it's out.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Outside looking at Yeah, I'm looking as beautiful. I know
you're in the valley. You know what it is out here? Man,
it's November tenth. And I know people around the country,
you know, hate us because they hain't us. But man,
this being this weather like here is unbelievable. Right now,
it's too hot. Right now, it's too hot. It's too
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I remember when I when I came to California and
I used to love like you look at like you know,
like CEE TV in Chicago and Green Bay, and I
told you it'd be like it'll be in the seventies.
It'll be like in the seventies, seventy five, maybe eighty,
mostly the seventies and and November, you know, no nineties.
I mean, but it's it has really really changed. I mean,
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it's it's hot. I am bought unbelieved. It's like Texas,
like Texas my home state.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
No rain. See, you know what, here's a problem. No mountains.
But here, here's the problem. I'm saying rain, No rain here.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Everybody's got a bitch. No, let me explain it to you.
If you live in cold weather, what do you say?
It's too cold? The snow, the sleep, driving on ice,
it's not good. I want to love words warm. Okay,
love words warm. Now what it's too hot? It's too hot?
Would you rather be living where it's ninety degrees or
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where it could be forty two degrees?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Where would you rather live? That's my question?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Well, I'd rather be living wells. The temperature used to
be normal, like and like, Like I said in November,
it's spend the seventies, maybe eighties, maybe eighties. It's changed red.
I mean, I don't want to live in no place cold.
I agree with that. But you know, if you move
to some place you know it's cold, that's on you,
or you know the way you're stuck there your family's
and that's different. But if I decide, look, you know
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I live in California and I'm gonna move to Chicago, Well,
I know it's gonna be cold as hell.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Left I give it even a better example. Okay, I'm
from Texas, right.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I thought about moving back to Texas because of you know,
you know, the insurance.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
It's so damn.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Expensive to me, taxis and and everything else out here.
I thought about it, moving back to Texas. I haven't done.
I don't know if I ever will, because I love
them where I live. I love making on my location.
But if I go back to Texas, I do know
that it's hot as hell back there, and it's human
it's here, so I can't be back there complaining about Man.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
It's so damn hot there. Now, you know that.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
That's why my boy randall count of him, called me
just two days ago, trying to get me to move
to Vegas. I say, Ramba, I am not moving on
hot that a's Vegas. I say, it's hot as hell
over there. No, I'm damn I said, Randa, I'm not
moving to Vegas. I say, no, that's too hot for me.
I mean, so when you move to a place, you
know what you're gonna get. When I moved to California,
I knew what I used to get. I don't get
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what I used to get all the time. So that's
that's that's the issue.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
But I love Cali. I mean, I like California.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I like it here. I'm not complaining. I'm just telling
you it's hottest hell out here. All right, let's get
caught up on what's been going on today.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
Okay, so fred, as you mentioned big news surrounding UCLA
and the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
We touched them as briefly last week. The reports that
the UCLA is looking to potentially move from the Rose
Bowl to Sofi Stadium for their home games, potentially as
early as next season. So Ben borch Bolts from The
Times reports this in the La Times. The City of
Pasadena and the Rose Bowl have requested a preliminary injunction
in Tipperary restraining order as they try to prevent UCLA
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from leaving the Rose Bowl or terminating its lease until
their litigation has been resolved. The reports out of UCLA are,
and depending on who you talk to, they're trying to
get out of their lease and play at Sofi Stadium
as early as next season. Their contract with the Rose
Bowl does not run out until twenty forty three, so
as of right now, the City of Pasadena and the
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Rose Bowl taking legal action to try to prevent UCLA
from doing that until their legal situation is resolved in
the courts.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
So I read that the Rose Bull said they're spending
twenty six million dollars to improve one of the end
zones with a club and construction will again next year.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
What they're saying is you're harming us.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You know, you're you're you're taking business away from us
in the eight days that they play there.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Bottom line is this. It was a bad decision to
play there. It was a terrible decision. This is just
gonna come down of money. By the way, if you
SLA wants to go, they're gonna go. It's just how much, Yeah,
how much is the Rose Buwl going to force them
to pay? How much? That's the reality here. What's it
going to cost? Because if they want to go, they're
gonna go. I'm not gonna play in a place they
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don't want to play in. The question becomes why why
do they want to go right now? What is it
about right now that forced them to go? But I
still think it's the right decision to get out of there.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Well, you know what they what do they pay? What
do they pay there? How much do they pay to play?
There those eight games.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, I don't know what it is exactly,
but it's not cheap. I'm sure the Rose Bulls getting
a nice, pretty penny from UCLA to play there.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
But you know the reason.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
The reason is that UCLA is not very good and
they are not selling enough tickets to not only fill
up the Rose Bowl, but probably not enough tickets to
even break somewhat even from amount of money, as you mentioned, Eric,
what they're paying because there's nobody in the stands and
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when you and then and on top of that, the
optics look bad when you've got one hundred and five
seats thousand seat stadium and there's only fifteen thousand people
in it. It's hard to manipulate that on TV that oh,
we got a lot of we got a lot of
fans here and versus versus Utah, when in reality they
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they don't. And then, you know, a big part of
college football is the student body, and you know, and
then the excitement that the student body has about Saturdays
and going to games on Saturdays, and then at UCLA,
those kids got to jump up and slept what a
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fifty minutes minutes with no traffic to get to Pasadena
and then you throw traffic in there.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
It's an hour and a half.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Two hours to get to the Rose Bowl from Westwood
from the campus. And you know, and if your team
is not winning, them kids are not going They going
to the beach. And we just talked about how warm
it is in California, them kids going to the beach
and there going to the UCLA game when they're not winning.
The team has only got three wins, and so so
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you know, Sofi right down the road, right down to
four h five for them, it takes probably fifteen minutes
to get there from Westwood. So it makes sense for
ucaling to move. But it's made sense for years, Fred,
because they should have had a camp A stadium on campus,
what twenty five years ago?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
They should have made that happen. Yep.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
I mean, and you're talking about going to Sofi. You're
talking about fifteen thousand fans gonna look like five hundred fans.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
It's Sofi Stadium, section one half just under the Hunters.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
The least it is closer. I agree with that it's closer.
I say that it's closer. That's true, Ben.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Bolt said, as UCLA makes seven hundred and thirty eight
thousand dollars a game, novelties, parking, food, and concessions.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
They're not even making a million dollars a game.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Well, you know, part of the reason for that too
is they have a very small percentage of revenue that
comes from all of those things. It will be a
bad deal with the Rose Bull, right, and every single
suite that Soul they get zero. They don't get a
dime from any suites that are sold in the Rose
bul which will be different according to the reporting, if
they were to go to Sofi, they get a higher
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percentage of parking, higher percent of concessions, and they will
get a percentage at least somewhat of luxury suites, of
which now they get zero. So all of that is
a big reason why they're looking to make this move too.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Kevin.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I'm wondering, you think what they're doing, because they floated
all that stuff, and I'm wondering if they're pulling this,
you know what we're gonna go. Well, wait a minute,
if you do what they're gonna do for us, it's Sofi,
maybe we'll stay.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah, what do you think? Good?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Well, no, these are all right. Somehow these terms got
leaked out. Nobody was supposed to know this, of course,
but somehow they just got out there. Are you guys
willing to do that? I wonder if that's the play.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
It could be like they're manipulating and negotiating in the
midst of all this. Hey give us what Sofi is
willing to give us, and we'll stay at the Rose Bowl.
Give us a percentage of the suites and ticket sales parking,
give us a percentage of that, and we'll stay out
of it at.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
The Rose Bowl.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
But man, how did they get into it at lease?
That is until twenty forty three. I think we're signed
that deal.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Well, you know, they're probably when they sign it in
two thousand and four.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I think, I think that's what it wants.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Man, the way things change nowadays, and the way stadiums
are built, and you know, the amount of progress that's happened,
and to sign that long and that lengthy of a deal,
somebody dropped the ball on that one.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
I want to use you guys thoughts on this. And
I know usually there's obviously a divide between you know,
the executives or labor and the people in charge. But
Paul Tagliaboo did pass away yesterday at the age of
eighty four years old. Rodney and Era, you guys both
played during his tenure as commissioner. I think you were
there towards the end of Roselle there, Eric, if I'm
not mistaken. Just you guys' thoughts on Paul Tagliaboo, his legacy,
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what the situation, what any relationship you guys might have
had with him, and the legacy leaves on the NFL
having passed at eighty four years old. And if you
have nothing positive to say, of course you can say
nothing at all as well.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
That is an option. I'm just not gonna say anything, Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I don't like to see anybody pass, but all of
us gonna die one day, so hey, good luck to him,
Hope Green.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Yeah, he had just taken over for from Pete Roselle
when I got in the league. Eric, I'm sure. I
think Eric had a few years with Pete Roselle before
he he stepped down.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
But but yeah, there's a lot of always always has
been a lot of friction with the players and and
and and ownership and the commissioner's office because obviously the
commissioner answers to all the owners and basically is you know,
the owners are his boss, and so whatever the owners want,
he kind of pushes through.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
And I think that you know, over the years, there's
there's always.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Been tension, you know, and and and trying to figure
out a good balance with the players. And we've made
you know, very I know, it seems like it's you know,
football has grown, NFL has grown, but very little progress
has been made in terms of player relations, in terms
of player benefits over the years. And I fought more
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and Eric knows this, We fought more on the NFL
Players Association and and them not really fighting the fight
that we think that they should have fought along the
way to get better benefits, to get better deals, and
they've let the NFL strong arm them along the way.
And so I know, you know, people are going to
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blame the commissioner, but I blame the more so the
leadership of the players Association, more so than the commissioners
or anything else, because if you're the job of the
commissioner is to grow the league and make it, make
it profitable, and make it more global and all those things.
And Taglabu took the range from Peter Rosel and took
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it to a different level. And then Roger Goodell, obviously
with the things in the media contracts and even now
with the gambling as we talked about, have made the
owners a tremendous amount of money going forward. And so
from the owner standpoint, that's why they keep giving Roger
Goodell extensions and they you know, pay him more than
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any other commissioner out there, is because what the money
he's made for the league. But from the players standpoint,
our leadership has not been great. But you know, dagla Book,
I think he did a good job in terms of
taking the league to a different level. So rest in peace, Paul.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
And then a major story out of the NFL from
earlier today the New York Giants firing head coach Brian
day Ball. He was the head coach, he was the
coach of the Year just three seasons ago, led him
to an improbable playoff win against Minnesota with Daniel Jones
at quarterback, But now he is out. They have loaned
four double digit leads this season, have the Giants, And
a lot of people were asking why haven't they getting rid?
Why are they not getting rid of general manager Joe
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Shane and John Merra, the president of the team owner
of the team said that they love the talent that
he is assembled Jackson, dart Leak, Neighbors, and a bunch
of others, so they felt that they wanted to keep
him aboard to try to find a new coach. But
Brian day Ball is now on the street and the
Giants looking for a new head coach.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, James Franklins available, Yeah he is.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Yeah, let's fire as the head coach, you know, and
not the general manager that led Sae Kwon Barkley went
to Philadelphia in conference and within your conference, Let's let's
get rid of the head coach because he he made
that decision.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
And and then you know, you lose your your number
one receiver and neighbors, you lose your big time rookie
running back in Scataboo, and and you're playing with a
rookie quarterback. So you know, go go win for us,
Brian Dable, go win. You know, it's a it's a
tough gig. And yes they they didn't. They hadn't played
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well down the stretch and lost some games in the
fourth quarter. But man, what does that do for your
franchise quarterback that's supposed to be your face of your franchise.
Now you know it's starting over again. You know, these
things are not not great. It's like when you know
people want to blame Justin Fields for his time in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
He had three different head coaches I.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Believe in like eighteen different offensive coordinators while he his
tenure in Chicago, and hopefully for Kate up there in
Chicago that that you know, Ben Johnson is there for
the duration of his career because it looks like they're clicking.
But you can't take that away from a young quarterback
like Jackson Dart who's developing and becoming a pretty good player.
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And and and Dable is a guy that calls the
offensive plays and is basically the offensive coordinator. And so
they let the best coach in the building walk. And
I hate the firings in the in the middle of
the season. I don't think they ever really work. And
so the Giants and the Jets and that whole NFL
in New York is just a blank show right now.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I mean, you think about it, it's the defensive. It's
the defense is letting letting them come back. I mean,
you know they have believe I mean, so what about
the defensive coordinator, about him.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
To be getting fired. You're right righting.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
You got a young quarterback that seems to be going
in the right direction, and you fire your head coach
and now he's gonna have a whole new offense. I
mean that that offense maybe remained up this year, but
you know next year is the offensive coordinator gonna be there?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
And once again, why not fire the general manager?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I mean, how in the heck do you let Saquon
Barkley go to the Philadelphia Eagle and then you got
Daniel Jones and Daniel Jones then he looked like Joe like.
So it says something about the you know, it says
something about people at the.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Top, righty to your point, you move a guy in
the middle of the season. They're not making a playoffs.
What's the difference? Right, They're not going anywhere?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
No, they're not What what what does that do? How
does that help? You know? Now you got the coaching staff,
they know they're not gonna be there next year. They
they know they're not gonna be there. I am put
up the job.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yeah, he's looking for another job there. Their hearts and
souls are not into it. Why why do it in
the middle of the season, and it has never made
sense to me.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
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Speaker 1 (28:55):
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Speaker 9 (29:36):
Yeah yeah, lay it down in Texas town e Ed
got Texas Baby, Rodney p Fred Rogan, Hall of Famer
Eric Dickerson on a beautiful Monday.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Man, it flew by if did they flew by a
little bigger?
Speaker 9 (29:52):
Did?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
We did get test up without that nice little team
over That nice little team look pretty good last night night, Rogers.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Look old man, did they ever defense? They crushed?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
They came down on him, boy, I mean he did.
I mean it makes you think maybe you should retired out? Yes, right, yeah,
that's what I was thinking that old game. Every time
I was looking at and go, man, it's time, man,
it's time.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
It looks like it's not it's not fun for him.
And fun I mean and football is.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
I mean, even when you don't get on you losing
ain't fine, but it's times like you should be having
a good time. And every time you see him look
like he is just like mad. Yeah, like like like
like even they do well, it's like man rhyme right,
it feels yeah, it's rying for him.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
So do you think he still has a skill set.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I think he has some of his skill set, you know,
of course not as shop as he was like when
he was in his thirties, twenties and thirties, but you know,
I think his arm is still there. But yeah, you
know what, Fred, In a sport like football, man, you
have to be all in. And I'm gonna tell you
you have to love it. You just can't like it.
You got to love that sport. And I could tell
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looking at him, I'm not. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I don't think he loves it anymore.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I think he I think he probably still likes it,
you know, but I don't think he loves it.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
That's how I was a taking. I didn't love it anymore.
That's it point.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
You know, football, you can't you can't half asset, you can't,
you can't be you know, you can't be one foot in,
one foot out, because that's first of all, you get hurt.
And secondly, you know you you can't perform. You know,
if you're thinking about you and I retired, you're not
not retired or this game. I don't wake up feeling
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excited about playing on the game day. You know that
that message with you, and that's when you really know
it's time to go.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
And you're right. It doesn't look like he's having any
kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Right now, not at all, even they win. Matter of fact,
I my son, I asked him when he wanted to
play football. I said, okay, now you're gonna play. I
say you sure? He said yes, So you know he
played his person. He got to hurt, his broke his
hands and I asked him, I said, do you still
do you like it? Or you love it? I love it?
I said, okay, I said, you can't like it. You
got to love this sport and the balls all. But
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if you don't love it, man, you can't. You can't
you can't succeed. It's been this sport. It's a totally sports.
You have to be one hundred percent into it, and
mentally and physical too, physical and and and mentally too.
But physically you can't. You can't get away. Like I said,
you can't half ascid. You can't half ass it. You
gotta you gotta be all the way in.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
You think people I'm just gonna say, you think people
watching him this year, because he'll be down in Pittsburgh
after this year, do you think they're watching him going, yeah,
we're done with him.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Now. Do you think the league teams you mean other
teams side? Yeah? Again, Yeah, I think this is the
last stop.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I think this is it. Yeah, I think this is it.
I'll be shocked if some other team took him. I
mean i'd be I think I think I remember remember
one point we made. We made a play for him
before we got Stafford. They went up to him first, Yeah,
they did. They went up to him first, and they
said green Bay said, he's not on the he's not
he's not to be traded. He's not on the be
not on the blocks. I say, okay, So we went
after Stafford. It so and they made the right decision.
(33:02):
I mean, with with Matt Stafford, I won't forget. When
I met him, I told him, I said, you the
piece you've been missing, you know, and we want a
super Bowl that year.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
At least they want a super Bowl that year. So anyway,
but the charges ain't look good. I gotta give him credit.
They looked really good last night. I mean, you know,
Justin Herbert. Was that Katie in the background. Katie said,
oh yeah, oh yeah, man, I'm telling you man, Justin Herb.
But he's the real deal. I just she gets more help.
(33:31):
I mean, he's man, She's fantastic. I gotta say, yeah, So, Katie,
you're happy today, very happy.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
She was at the game last night. I told her,
you survived a hostile environment, a nice road victory there
for the charges, that's so far, so far.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I think it'll only be uh beat by the Raiders
because then they'll just it's mostly raiders, you know, But.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
It was mostly everybody else, Kate.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
That's not that's not come on there.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I mean, yeah, it's always a little like more, but
it's really closer.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
You got the Steelers coming to town, Kansas City coming
to town.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
It's always the other.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
The city won't come to town. They went to Brazil.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
And the.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Rams for sure. Guy, man, they way over the charges.
I mean, come on, no no offense. But they are
the they are that little team. Look that nice little team.
I say that they got a nice little team over there.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
All right, Katie, thank you for today and evaculations on
the nice little team. Yeah, thank you, great work, Thanks
thanks cav, thanks man.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Okay, right on to you guys.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
So
Now right, we continue on on this Monday e ed
with us later this hour.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Kevin will be along.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
A lot has happened since we've been on for about
two hours and fifteen minutes, and you'll get us caught
up on everything with its lip. So, uh, USC ye
beat Northwestern, which is good because USC doesn't have to
leave the Big Ten. Now, if Northwestern had beaten the Trojans,
Trojans were out.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
You say that every week.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
No I don't, Oh, no, I don't. If Northwestern would
have won, that would have been an issue. But they
don't beat Nebraska. They gott to leave the Big They
don't be Michigan this time. They gotta. No, they're tough
for you to be. You gotta beat Northwestern and they
did thirty eight seven West those slouts. Now Northwestern can play.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
This. They had to be every game. They got a
tough rude they got to play. They gotta play Iowa,
who played Oregon to the wire. And you know, the
weather was crazy and made it closer than organ like,
but still i was a good football team. Bill Well
coached physical football team that they got to come into
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town and then they also have to go to Oregon.
So the s he's got a tough road. But if
they get through it, they are in the conversation for
the playoff run. Yeah, they're having a good year. They
really are having a good year.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
But we do want to discuss the moment when the
backup quarterback put on the punters jersey during a fake
fake punt conversion.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You want to talk about that, Rodney, No, you tell
me what happened for it?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I saw it. What happened, Fred? What did they do? Well,
here's what they did.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
They basically the end of Big Ten, by the way,
said they should have been penalized for this. Two players
wearing the same number lined up at the same position
during the game as part of a trick play.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
That's what happened.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Fourth and sixth on their own forty six, A player
wearing number eighty j down to the field to set
up for a punt. It seemed to be normal. However,
when number eighty took the snap, instead of booting the
ball down field, he swobled his hips to pass and
found a freshman for a ten yard completion at a
first down. USC punter Sam Johnson wears number eighty. He
didn't throw that pass. It was third string quarterback Sam
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hewart Us. He's coaching staff made a number change before
the game, listing Hewart is number eighty. The senior had
worn number seven in previous games this year.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
That's what they did.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, they made it known before the game that he
was gonna wear number eighty, Fred, didn't they not? You
just read that they they did it before the game. Yes, yes,
So what's your problem that makes it legal?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Well, when you have two eighties lined up next to
each other, that's a problem.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
That's probably Hey, hey, be ready, be ready. You see it?
Oh oh, eight to eighty. That's a different eighty that
we saw. There's a different eighty in the game in
the back and the back up. He threw a great past.
That was past, perfect past. I know he's lefty. Oh
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wait a minute, we see something different. It's oh time out?
How about that? How about that?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
For it?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It time out? Something is going on right here. We
gotta we gotta pay attention to this time out. Flats
in the hen house. Yeah there you got the fox
in the hen house. All these hens don't look alike.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I clucking right now. It worked too, It worked, Oh.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Good work, and legally, you know they did what they
said they were gonna do they put number eighty in.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, yeah, but come on, come on, I give him
credit because it worked there.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, the comment you should have been penalized probably, hey,
but they weren't, and they they you know, they went
over it and then the officials didn't penalize them.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
So what do you want sc to do?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
What they did? Yeah, exactly what they did. Exactly what
they did, exactly what they did. It's a competitive business, Fred,
you gotta find edges.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
You got to find.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Ways to win by winning. They winning. You know what
does ed always say when you complain? That's what losers say?
That what loss always said. Man, we had him, Man,
we had that number eighty, and now we have had them.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
You know, I understand there's a lot of guys on
a college football team, but this guy, this dual number thing,
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, I'm with it. I don't like that. I'm I'm
with it too. I don't like I'm with that.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I don't like it either, because in college you can
you do often Sometimes you see guys play both ways
and you see the number and say, wait, number seven,
he's a receiver, but yet number seven is also a
defensive back. But who's who and what are they doing?
I don't I don't like it either. You know another
thing I don't like that bothers me so bad. When
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I see a three hundred and fifty pound defensive linemen
wearing number six, wear.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
A single digit, a single number, got his jersey and
gut is hanging all over his pants, and he is,
like I said, about three six foot three fitty and
wearing number six or number he's wearing number eight.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
It just does not look right.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
It still needs to be some kind of regulation that
if you're gonna play on the defensive line, then you
gotta wear You gotta wear the appropriate number. You gotta
be seventy something or ninety something, you know, fifty something,
but you can't wear you can't wear a number or
(06:00):
a single digit number as a defensive lineman.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Like the guy, the big star, the stud they got
from Penn State. I forget his name, but he's a
he's a big time player. He's number twenty eight and
he plays defensive tackle. He plays the same position like
Warren Sapp played number twenty eight, twenty eight. He's wearing
number twenty.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
He must have been a running back before at some point.
But you know he was right. You know, growing up
he was a running back. Yeah, he wasn't running back.
I want that same number I had in Pop Warner.
I want that number.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
I want that number Duke's eight that I had in
Pop Warner when I was running touchdown. But as a
defensive lineman at three sixty, No, that doesn't go well
with me.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Fred I hate it. Now.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
What do you say to this because the quarterback at
BYU Baron Bachmeier, he wears a forty seven.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Don't right? Seven? Right right? He went to a forty seventh. Ye,
I don't like that either. I don't like that either, Kevin,
I mean, I get it.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
You know Fluti did it with twenty two when he
played at Boston College was a different thal. John Hadel
is the only one I remember back in the day
in the NFL. I think he wore twenty one, twenty one,
twenty one as a quarterback, and you know that's okay,
But yeah I didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I didn't. I don't like the forty seven at quarterback either.
I don't like that.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
I think you got a You know, certain positions need
to have a certain regulation on the numbers that they
can wear well.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
NFL are there are requirements. Now they've they've loosened those
up a bit.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Right over the years, NFL can.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Yeah, it used to be you couldn't you know, single
digits were reserved for kickers.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
And quarterbacks, not just single digits. I want to be nineteen.
You couldn't be.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Yeah, you couldn't be nineteen, right, you had to be
in the twenties, twenties or thirty running back.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, twenty right, twenty to forty.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Nine, twenty to forty nine, that's what it was. Yeah,
twenty to forty nine for a running back. And then
uh yeah, and the same thing with uh yeah, you
couldn't be a You couldn't be a single digit running back.
You couldn't be a single You couldn't even be a
single digit defensive back.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
You could be Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
I think it was the same number combination for defensive back.
We had to be twenty through through forty nine. Because
I remember I remember Dion petitioning to try to be
number two when he when he came into college when
he was two in college.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, Florida State.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Yeah, he wanted to be number two, and they wouldn't
let him do it and made him wear twenty one.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
So yeah, I just you know, I get it.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I get it with you know, with certain guys, like
like running backs. If you were a number, you know,
like nineteen in college, or you're number four in college
as running back number five like Reggie Bush, they din't
gonna let him be number five. He had to run
wear twenty five at the Saints when he first got there.
So I mean, I get that as a run.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
But when you when you three sixty three eighty, you
can't wear a single dishit that just don't look right,
don't run right.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I'm gonna take what bother I'm gonna bought me more
than that is is these guys. A matter of fact,
Roy Green called me today, you know, because he played
for the Arizona for the Arizona and the Saint Saint
Louis Cardinals, and he said he was talking about their
game because he said, man, I told you because he
kept saying, man, the RAM got a good football team,
Area RAM got a good I said, I don't know
he said that for the season anyway, He said, you
know what would piss me off with our team? He said,
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just just in general in the NFL, these guys jump
up he said, they make a tackle or they get
a sack, or they catch it first down, they jump up,
but throwing their hand at first down, you know, you
know when they when they I saw yesterday what the
defensive the ball that went over the receiver's head and
did he be like like he did?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Just right? I'm like and Roy said, we were getting
be twenty eight to nothing. I said, jumping up. I
mean that is fred, I said, what that's so frustrated.
I told my son.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I told him, I said, let me tell you something.
Don't you ever say? I said, don't you ever? I said,
if I catch you out there, you jump up on
first down or making them try to clown I said,
just know this all my dad on his way, So
let me just head to the sidelines, right, he said,
you right.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Because I'm coming to get you. I said, I messed up.
Let me just let me that.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I mean from from guys from our era, Fred that
that that's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
It bothers me as well. Well, you're down twenty twenty
something points and you're gonna jump up and go first down,
and it could be in the fourth quarter and you down,
you're getting your ass kicked.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
The whole game, and you're gonna jump up on the
first down or or defensive back like you said, the
ball didn't even come close.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
It was overthrown.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Beat beat, And then he jumps up and does the
incomplete signal, you know, like he did something for it.
And I hate it when it's first down, when they
do it. When it first you still got three more downs.
You got three more downs. You better just chill because
the next play they may be coming right at you,
you know, And and then what you're gonna do, what
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you're gonna do with you know when that happens. But
you're gonna have got beat. You're gonna say that was
me got beat. Look at that the point I got beat.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
On that boor or the other one is O other
one is or.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
And you see it, Eric, you know, you just one
for like twenty eight yards, right, and they and somebody
get a good hit on you at the end of
the twenty eight yard and they jump up and so
are celebrating that they kinds the first down.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, no, it's it's a different football. Let's put it
like that.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
And it's trickling down to like the young kids, you know,
they see that stuff to see if the NFL and
then college kids do it and the high school kids
do it, so they figure all that it's cool the
NFL guys do it, I can do it.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Too, you know. Yeah, it's yeah, it's just a man,
It's funny. It is what it is.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
And I don't want to say like yeah, we don't
want to sound like to get off my line, guys,
but man, come on, you gotta have some sort of
some sort of pride of where the game is and
what's happening in the game. You're getting beat down, you
down twenty eight points, and you're gonna jump up and
say first down.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Like it's like like it's a game. It's gonna change
the game right to nothing. Come on with foremenutes left
in the game, Yeah, come on, man.
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Speaker 2 (12:55):
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Speaker 3 (13:00):
Outside looking at Yeah, I'm looking as beautiful. I know
you're in the valley. You know what it is out here? Man,
it's November tenth. And I know people around the country,
you know, hate us because they hain't us. But man,
this being this weather like here is unbelievable. Right now,
it's too hot. Right now, it's too hot. It's too
(13:21):
I remember when I when I came to California and
I used to love like you look at like you know,
like CEE TV in Chicago and Green Bay, and I
told you it'd be like it'll be in the seventies.
It'll be like in the seventies, seventy five, maybe eighty,
mostly the seventies and and November, you know, no nineties.
I mean, but it's it has really really changed. I mean,
(13:42):
it's it's hot. I am bought unbelieved. It's like Texas,
like Texas my home state.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
No rain. See, you know what, here's a problem. No mountains.
But here, here's the problem. I'm saying rain, No rain here.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Everybody's got a bitch. No, let me explain it to you.
If you live in cold weather, what do you say?
It's too cold? The snow, the sleep, driving on ice,
it's not good. I want to love words warm. Okay,
love words warm. Now what it's too hot? It's too hot?
Would you rather be living where it's ninety degrees or
(14:18):
where it could be forty two degrees?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Where would you rather live? That's my question?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Well, I'd rather be living wells. The temperature used to
be normal, like and like, Like I said in November,
it's spend the seventies, maybe eighties, maybe eighties. It's changed red.
I mean, I don't want to live in no place cold.
I agree with that. But you know, if you move
to some place you know it's cold, that's on you,
or you know the way you're stuck there your family's
and that's different. But if I decide, look, you know
(14:44):
I live in California and I'm gonna move to Chicago, Well,
I know it's gonna be cold as hell.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Left I give it even a better example. Okay, I'm
from Texas, right.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I thought about moving back to Texas because of you know,
you know, the insurance.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
It's so damn.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Expensive to me, taxis and and everything else out here.
I thought about it, moving back to Texas. I haven't done.
I don't know if I ever will, because I love
them where I live. I love making on my location.
But if I go back to Texas, I do know
that it's hot as hell back there, and it's human
it's here, so I can't be back there complaining about Man.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
It's so damn hot there. Now, you know that.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
That's why my boy randall count of him, called me
just two days ago, trying to get me to move
to Vegas. I say, Ramba, I am not moving on
hot that a's Vegas. I say, it's hot as hell
over there. No, I'm damn I said, Randa, I'm not
moving to Vegas. I say, no, that's too hot for me.
I mean, so when you move to a place, you
know what you're gonna get. When I moved to California,
I knew what I used to get. I don't get
(15:39):
what I used to get all the time. So that's
that's that's the issue.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
But I love Cali. I mean, I like California.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I like it here. I'm not complaining. I'm just telling
you it's hottest hell out here. All right, let's get
caught up on what's been going on today.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
Okay, so fred, as you mentioned big news surrounding UCLA
and the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
We touched them as briefly last week. The reports that
the UCLA is looking to potentially move from the Rose
Bowl to Sofi Stadium for their home games, potentially as
early as next season. So Ben borch Bolts from The
Times reports this in the La Times. The City of
Pasadena and the Rose Bowl have requested a preliminary injunction
in Tipperary restraining order as they try to prevent UCLA
(16:21):
from leaving the Rose Bowl or terminating its lease until
their litigation has been resolved. The reports out of UCLA are,
and depending on who you talk to, they're trying to
get out of their lease and play at Sofi Stadium
as early as next season. Their contract with the Rose
Bowl does not run out until twenty forty three, so
as of right now, the City of Pasadena and the
(16:42):
Rose Bowl taking legal action to try to prevent UCLA
from doing that until their legal situation is resolved in
the courts.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
So I read that the Rose Bull said they're spending
twenty six million dollars to improve one of the end
zones with a club and construction will again next year.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
What they're saying is you're harming us.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You know, you're you're you're taking business away from us
in the eight days that they play there.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Bottom line is this. It was a bad decision to
play there. It was a terrible decision. This is just
gonna come down of money. By the way, if you
SLA wants to go, they're gonna go. It's just how much, Yeah,
how much is the Rose Buwl going to force them
to pay? How much? That's the reality here. What's it
going to cost? Because if they want to go, they're
gonna go. I'm not gonna play in a place they
(17:27):
don't want to play in. The question becomes why why
do they want to go right now? What is it
about right now that forced them to go? But I
still think it's the right decision to get out of there.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Well, you know what they what do they pay? What
do they pay there? How much do they pay to play?
There those eight games.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, I don't know what it is exactly,
but it's not cheap. I'm sure the Rose Bulls getting
a nice, pretty penny from UCLA to play there.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
But you know the reason.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
The reason is that UCLA is not very good and
they are not selling enough tickets to not only fill
up the Rose Bowl, but probably not enough tickets to
even break somewhat even from amount of money, as you mentioned, Eric,
what they're paying because there's nobody in the stands and
(18:16):
when you and then and on top of that, the
optics look bad when you've got one hundred and five
seats thousand seat stadium and there's only fifteen thousand people
in it. It's hard to manipulate that on TV that oh,
we got a lot of we got a lot of
fans here and versus versus Utah, when in reality they
(18:38):
they don't. And then, you know, a big part of
college football is the student body, and you know, and
then the excitement that the student body has about Saturdays
and going to games on Saturdays, and then at UCLA,
those kids got to jump up and slept what a
(18:58):
fifty minutes minutes with no traffic to get to Pasadena
and then you throw traffic in there.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
It's an hour and a half.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Two hours to get to the Rose Bowl from Westwood
from the campus. And you know, and if your team
is not winning, them kids are not going They going
to the beach. And we just talked about how warm
it is in California, them kids going to the beach
and there going to the UCLA game when they're not winning.
The team has only got three wins, and so so
(19:25):
you know, Sofi right down the road, right down to
four h five for them, it takes probably fifteen minutes
to get there from Westwood. So it makes sense for
ucaling to move. But it's made sense for years, Fred,
because they should have had a camp A stadium on campus,
what twenty five years ago?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
They should have made that happen. Yep.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
I mean, and you're talking about going to Sofi. You're
talking about fifteen thousand fans gonna look like five hundred fans.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
It's Sofi Stadium, section one half just under the Hunters.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
The least it is closer. I agree with that it's closer.
I say that it's closer. That's true, Ben.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Bolt said, as UCLA makes seven hundred and thirty eight
thousand dollars a game, novelties, parking, food, and concessions.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
They're not even making a million dollars a game.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Well, you know, part of the reason for that too
is they have a very small percentage of revenue that
comes from all of those things. It will be a
bad deal with the Rose Bull, right, and every single
suite that Soul they get zero. They don't get a
dime from any suites that are sold in the Rose
bul which will be different according to the reporting, if
they were to go to Sofi, they get a higher
(20:28):
percentage of parking, higher percent of concessions, and they will
get a percentage at least somewhat of luxury suites, of
which now they get zero. So all of that is
a big reason why they're looking to make this move too.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Kevin.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I'm wondering, you think what they're doing, because they floated
all that stuff, and I'm wondering if they're pulling this,
you know what we're gonna go. Well, wait a minute,
if you do what they're gonna do for us, it's Sofi,
maybe we'll stay.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah, what do you think? Good?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Well, no, these are all right. Somehow these terms got
leaked out. Nobody was supposed to know this, of course,
but somehow they just got out there. Are you guys
willing to do that? I wonder if that's the play.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
It could be like they're manipulating and negotiating in the
midst of all this. Hey give us what Sofi is
willing to give us, and we'll stay at the Rose Bowl.
Give us a percentage of the suites and ticket sales parking,
give us a percentage of that, and we'll stay out
of it at.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
The Rose Bowl.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
But man, how did they get into it at lease?
That is until twenty forty three. I think we're signed
that deal.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Well, you know, they're probably when they sign it in
two thousand and four.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I think, I think that's what it wants.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Man, the way things change nowadays, and the way stadiums
are built, and you know, the amount of progress that's happened,
and to sign that long and that lengthy of a deal,
somebody dropped the ball on that one.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
I want to use you guys thoughts on this. And
I know usually there's obviously a divide between you know,
the executives or labor and the people in charge. But
Paul Tagliaboo did pass away yesterday at the age of
eighty four years old. Rodney and Era, you guys both
played during his tenure as commissioner. I think you were
there towards the end of Roselle there, Eric, if I'm
not mistaken. Just you guys' thoughts on Paul Tagliaboo, his legacy,
(22:25):
what the situation, what any relationship you guys might have
had with him, and the legacy leaves on the NFL
having passed at eighty four years old. And if you
have nothing positive to say, of course you can say
nothing at all as well.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
That is an option. I'm just not gonna say anything, Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I don't like to see anybody pass, but all of
us gonna die one day, so hey, good luck to him,
Hope Green.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Yeah, he had just taken over for from Pete Roselle
when I got in the league. Eric, I'm sure. I
think Eric had a few years with Pete Roselle before
he he stepped down.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
But but yeah, there's a lot of always always has
been a lot of friction with the players and and
and and ownership and the commissioner's office because obviously the
commissioner answers to all the owners and basically is you know,
the owners are his boss, and so whatever the owners want,
he kind of pushes through.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
And I think that you know, over the years, there's
there's always.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Been tension, you know, and and and trying to figure
out a good balance with the players. And we've made
you know, very I know, it seems like it's you know,
football has grown, NFL has grown, but very little progress
has been made in terms of player relations, in terms
of player benefits over the years. And I fought more
(23:50):
and Eric knows this, We fought more on the NFL
Players Association and and them not really fighting the fight
that we think that they should have fought along the
way to get better benefits, to get better deals, and
they've let the NFL strong arm them along the way.
And so I know, you know, people are going to
(24:12):
blame the commissioner, but I blame the more so the
leadership of the players Association, more so than the commissioners
or anything else, because if you're the job of the
commissioner is to grow the league and make it, make
it profitable, and make it more global and all those things.
And Taglabu took the range from Peter Rosel and took
(24:33):
it to a different level. And then Roger Goodell, obviously
with the things in the media contracts and even now
with the gambling as we talked about, have made the
owners a tremendous amount of money going forward. And so
from the owner standpoint, that's why they keep giving Roger
Goodell extensions and they you know, pay him more than
(24:54):
any other commissioner out there, is because what the money
he's made for the league. But from the players standpoint,
our leadership has not been great. But you know, dagla Book,
I think he did a good job in terms of
taking the league to a different level. So rest in peace, Paul.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
And then a major story out of the NFL from
earlier today the New York Giants firing head coach Brian
day Ball. He was the head coach, he was the
coach of the Year just three seasons ago, led him
to an improbable playoff win against Minnesota with Daniel Jones
at quarterback, But now he is out. They have loaned
four double digit leads this season, have the Giants, And
a lot of people were asking why haven't they getting rid?
Why are they not getting rid of general manager Joe
(25:34):
Shane and John Merra, the president of the team owner
of the team said that they love the talent that
he is assembled Jackson, dart Leak, Neighbors, and a bunch
of others, so they felt that they wanted to keep
him aboard to try to find a new coach. But
Brian day Ball is now on the street and the
Giants looking for a new head coach.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, James Franklins available, Yeah he is.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Yeah, let's fire as the head coach, you know, and
not the general manager that led Sae Kwon Barkley went
to Philadelphia in conference and within your conference, Let's let's
get rid of the head coach because he he made
that decision.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
And and then you know, you lose your your number
one receiver and neighbors, you lose your big time rookie
running back in Scataboo, and and you're playing with a
rookie quarterback. So you know, go go win for us,
Brian Dable, go win. You know, it's a it's a
tough gig. And yes they they didn't. They hadn't played
(26:31):
well down the stretch and lost some games in the
fourth quarter. But man, what does that do for your
franchise quarterback that's supposed to be your face of your franchise.
Now you know it's starting over again. You know, these
things are not not great. It's like when you know
people want to blame Justin Fields for his time in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
He had three different head coaches I.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Believe in like eighteen different offensive coordinators while he his
tenure in Chicago, and hopefully for Kate up there in
Chicago that that you know, Ben Johnson is there for
the duration of his career because it looks like they're clicking.
But you can't take that away from a young quarterback
like Jackson Dart who's developing and becoming a pretty good player.
(27:15):
And and and Dable is a guy that calls the
offensive plays and is basically the offensive coordinator. And so
they let the best coach in the building walk. And
I hate the firings in the in the middle of
the season. I don't think they ever really work. And
so the Giants and the Jets and that whole NFL
in New York is just a blank show right now.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I mean, you think about it, it's the defensive. It's
the defense is letting letting them come back. I mean,
you know they have believe I mean, so what about
the defensive coordinator, about him.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
To be getting fired. You're right righting.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
You got a young quarterback that seems to be going
in the right direction, and you fire your head coach
and now he's gonna have a whole new offense. I
mean that that offense maybe remained up this year, but
you know next year is the offensive coordinator gonna be there?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
And once again, why not fire the general manager?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I mean, how in the heck do you let Saquon
Barkley go to the Philadelphia Eagle and then you got
Daniel Jones and Daniel Jones then he looked like Joe like.
So it says something about the you know, it says
something about people at the.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Top, righty to your point, you move a guy in
the middle of the season. They're not making a playoffs.
What's the difference? Right, They're not going anywhere?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
No, they're not What what what does that do? How
does that help? You know? Now you got the coaching staff,
they know they're not gonna be there next year. They
they know they're not gonna be there. I am put
up the job.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yeah, he's looking for another job there. Their hearts and
souls are not into it. Why why do it in
the middle of the season, and it has never made
sense to me.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
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Speaker 9 (29:36):
Yeah yeah, lay it down in Texas town e Ed
got Texas Baby, Rodney p Fred Rogan, Hall of Famer
Eric Dickerson on a beautiful Monday.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Man, it flew by if did they flew by a
little bigger?
Speaker 9 (29:52):
Did?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
We did get test up without that nice little team
over That nice little team look pretty good last night night, Rogers.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Look old man, did they ever defense? They crushed?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
They came down on him, boy, I mean he did.
I mean it makes you think maybe you should retired out? Yes, right, yeah,
that's what I was thinking that old game. Every time
I was looking at and go, man, it's time, man,
it's time.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
It looks like it's not it's not fun for him.
And fun I mean and football is.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
I mean, even when you don't get on you losing
ain't fine, but it's times like you should be having
a good time. And every time you see him look
like he is just like mad. Yeah, like like like
like even they do well, it's like man rhyme right,
it feels yeah, it's rying for him.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
So do you think he still has a skill set.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I think he has some of his skill set, you know,
of course not as shop as he was like when
he was in his thirties, twenties and thirties, but you know,
I think his arm is still there. But yeah, you
know what, Fred, In a sport like football, man, you
have to be all in. And I'm gonna tell you
you have to love it. You just can't like it.
You got to love that sport. And I could tell
(31:03):
looking at him, I'm not. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I don't think he loves it anymore.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I think he I think he probably still likes it,
you know, but I don't think he loves it.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
That's how I was a taking. I didn't love it anymore.
That's it point.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
You know, football, you can't you can't half asset, you can't,
you can't be you know, you can't be one foot in,
one foot out, because that's first of all, you get hurt.
And secondly, you know you you can't perform. You know,
if you're thinking about you and I retired, you're not
not retired or this game. I don't wake up feeling
(31:34):
excited about playing on the game day. You know that
that message with you, and that's when you really know
it's time to go.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
And you're right. It doesn't look like he's having any
kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Right now, not at all, even they win. Matter of fact,
I my son, I asked him when he wanted to
play football. I said, okay, now you're gonna play. I
say you sure? He said yes, So you know he
played his person. He got to hurt, his broke his
hands and I asked him, I said, do you still
do you like it? Or you love it? I love it?
I said, okay, I said, you can't like it. You
got to love this sport and the balls all. But
(32:04):
if you don't love it, man, you can't. You can't
you can't succeed. It's been this sport. It's a totally sports.
You have to be one hundred percent into it, and
mentally and physical too, physical and and and mentally too.
But physically you can't. You can't get away. Like I said,
you can't half ascid. You can't half ass it. You
gotta you gotta be all the way in.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
You think people I'm just gonna say, you think people
watching him this year, because he'll be down in Pittsburgh
after this year, do you think they're watching him going, yeah,
we're done with him.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Now. Do you think the league teams you mean other
teams side? Yeah? Again, Yeah, I think this is the
last stop.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I think this is it. Yeah, I think this is it.
I'll be shocked if some other team took him. I
mean i'd be I think I think I remember remember
one point we made. We made a play for him
before we got Stafford. They went up to him first, Yeah,
they did. They went up to him first, and they
said green Bay said, he's not on the he's not
he's not to be traded. He's not on the be
not on the blocks. I say, okay, So we went
after Stafford. It so and they made the right decision.
(33:02):
I mean, with with Matt Stafford, I won't forget. When
I met him, I told him, I said, you the
piece you've been missing, you know, and we want a
super Bowl that year.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
At least they want a super Bowl that year. So anyway,
but the charges ain't look good. I gotta give him credit.
They looked really good last night. I mean, you know,
Justin Herbert. Was that Katie in the background. Katie said,
oh yeah, oh yeah, man, I'm telling you man, Justin Herb.
But he's the real deal. I just she gets more help.
(33:31):
I mean, he's man, She's fantastic. I gotta say, yeah, So, Katie,
you're happy today, very happy.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
She was at the game last night. I told her,
you survived a hostile environment, a nice road victory there
for the charges, that's so far, so far.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I think it'll only be uh beat by the Raiders
because then they'll just it's mostly raiders, you know, But.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
It was mostly everybody else, Kate.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
That's not that's not come on there.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I mean, yeah, it's always a little like more, but
it's really closer.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
You got the Steelers coming to town, Kansas City coming
to town.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
It's always the other.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
The city won't come to town. They went to Brazil.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
And the.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Rams for sure. Guy, man, they way over the charges.
I mean, come on, no no offense. But they are
the they are that little team. Look that nice little team.
I say that they got a nice little team over there.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
All right, Katie, thank you for today and evaculations on
the nice little team. Yeah, thank you, great work, Thanks
thanks cav, thanks man.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Okay, right on to you guys.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
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