All Episodes

November 11, 2025 45 mins

Roggin and Rodney talk about Nico Harrison being fired by the Dallas Mavericks finally and Adam Auslund talks that and Clippers slow start vs. Lakers fast start. 

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Oh right, here we go, Fred Rogan, Rodney Peat on
a five to seventy LA Sports, a big three hour
program for US today. On the show coming up during
the one o'clock hour, Ben Boltch will talk about UCLA
and it's attempted move so five and he bon signor
will be along at two o'clock. Okay, I guess it
was a matter of time. I guess this had to happen,

(00:26):
whether it was his ultimate decision or not. The decision
was made. It basically blew up the Dallas Mavericks. The
other day, I was talking about the fact that there's
no way Nico Harrison can overcome this, none and Rodney said,
don't the Leakers have to win a title? Oh, apparently
they don't. The Mavericks fired Nico Harrison today. The backlash

(00:46):
from the fans, the response from the marketplace. It absolutely
blew up the Mavericks and Nico Harrison was fired.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Are you surprised, No, No, I'm not surprised. I just
wonder where the other dominos are going to fall now,
because certainly the here's my thing, Fred, the decision. When
you move a guy like that, generational talent like Lucas,

(01:16):
it's not a one person decision. It's a run it
up the flagpole. Let's get everybody to sign off on
this decision. And yes, Nico's the front guy. Nico was
out in front, made the comments, made all the statements
and all those things. But he did not act alone.
And it just feels like they left him out there

(01:40):
to die, basically, and nobody stepped up. It wasn't like
others around him or and the organization stepped up and say, hey,
this was a this was a collective decision by everybody.
We felt this was the best way for us to
move on, and we had to make a decision, and
we're all we're all in this together. You didn't hear
that he didn't hit that even when it was the

(02:02):
heat was really on him right afterwards, nobody really stepped
up for him, and so I did that. That part
of it disappoints me, but I'm not I'm not surprised.
I mean, in short of Dallas, you know, going to
the finals and winning it and getting there, Uh, this
was inevitable. So it happened, and it's just it was
a matter of time.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
All right.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Well, let's break it down from a number of perspectives.
Number one, you point out generational talent, no question about it.
One of the top guys in the league. Those are
the guys you you hope and pray for. That's Victor
wan Bayama. That that's who that is. That was Steph
Curry in his prime. That's who that is.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
It was Lebron in his prime. That's who that is.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
A generational talent, somebody that assures you every single season,
You'll be in the conversation every season, every single season, Giannis,
that's who Luka Donci is. And when you have a
player like that, there is so much more that goes

(03:05):
into it. For example, you're going to sell out. We
know that you're probably from a jersey sales perspective, going
to sell it off a lot of jerseys, a lot
of merch. Because you have a player like that. You
have someone that other players in theory want to play with,

(03:27):
so he becomes a recruiting tool. You have someone like that,
that is the ultimate that's winning the lottery, that's winning
the power ball.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
You have that.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Now, let's say things aren't going well with that individual.
Let's say there's a personality conflict, a difference of opinion.
Let's say that person basically is not doing what you ask.
Lose weight, get in shape, stop smoking, hookah, whatever it was.
We need you to do this, and they're not getting
a message. They're not understand the message. Okay, well, if

(04:02):
they're not understanding the message, you have one of two choices.
Your first choice is we need to get somebody else
to deliver the message. We need to figure out a
different way to communicate with this person, because this person
is unique, this person is special, This person puts people
in the scenes. Can we find anybody that can break through,

(04:25):
anybody that can communicate with him, anybody that can get
through to him? Maybe we have to take a different approach.
We have to bend over backwards. Yeah, we have to
eat it. We have to wear it, and we have
to wear it because he is who he is. Have
we exhausted all those possibilities? Have we gone through everything
humanly possible to make this work because we know what

(04:46):
the end result will be?

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Okay, we believe we have.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
We've done everything we can do. Now we have to
come to a different conclusion. I guess we have to
trade him. I guess we have to move. This is
not going to work, This marriage is not working. So
we're going to have to separate and go our separate ways. Okay,
now that's a tough call, a difficult decision, a difficult, difficult.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Decision to make, but we're going to do that, all right.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
So now we're going to do that, But we have
an obligation to the franchise to replace him in some way,
shape or form, and we can't replace him with a
player of his caliber. We cannot do that because that
doesn't exist. Those people are not available. So our next
option is we need to replace him with a player

(05:40):
or a group of players that we think fundamentally will
put people in the seats, not allow the fan base
to lose faith in what we've done, and we'll be competitive.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
With a chance to win.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
But our number one goal here is, if we're going
to make a move like this, we have to take
care of the franchise. We are stewards of the franchise.
The fans pay the bills, so we have got to
let them know we've done something here that's going to work.
We can't throw darts on a board. We can't say
we want to be the best defense in the league.

(06:15):
That's not what anybody there wants to hear. No one
wants to hear that. No one cares. What we have
to say is this is why we did it, This
is who we brought in. This is an exciting player
or group of players, and stick with us. But you

(06:37):
can't make the deal they made. You cannot trade the
way they traded, and in doing so, they nuke themselves. Now,
maybe Rodney to your point, Nico Harrison didn't wake up
one morning ago.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
We're gonna trade. That's it. The decision is made. I'm
calling Rob Polinka. It's over. We're blowing this guy out.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
No, a number of people were involved in that decision,
and there was a train of thought that the new
owners wanted to move the team to Vegas. And if
you get rid of your star and people revolt, then
they'll have a reason to move to Vegas. I mean,
that was a line a way of thinking some time ago.
But nonetheless, they nuked themselves. And Cooper Flag is a

(07:20):
nice player. He's a young player, and maybe down the
road he'll be terrific. Maybe down the road he will
be a complete stud, but.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Not now.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
You can't hang your hat on that guy. And Ago,
we gave up Luka Doncic for Anthony Davis, who's overweight
and hurt. But look who we have a guy that's
not really at this point going to take us anywhere. Yeah,
and they didn't trade to get him either. They lucked
out in the draft and the lottery to get him.
It wasn't like he was a part of the Luca deal. Hey,

(07:53):
we made a great deal for a younger superstar. That's
that's going to be our new face or the franchise.
They didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
They didn't know that was gonna happen when they made
that trade, and so it fell into their lap. So again,
you can't you can't go, oh, yeah, we got Cooper
Flagg because of that, we made the trade with Luca.
That didn't happen that way.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
No, No, it didn't happen that way. So that's where
you're at. Nico Harrison got fired. Someone's gonna have to
come in here and clean up this mess, and it's
not going to be easy.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
They've lost the market.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
That's the worst thing you can do, you know, in
college football or even the NFL, on a Saturday afternoon
or a Sunday afternoon, if the owner goes down to
the field before the game or stays around maybe after
the kick, then goes up to a suite, he looks
around and there's a lot of empty seats. Who gets it?
Who gets it? Boom gone? Next day, the coach gets it,

(08:54):
GM gets it. Somebody gets it because there's nobody there.
Because you can see you're doing real, live market research.
Your fan base isn't buying this, Your customers aren't buying it.
You're not selling them something they want.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Do they ever look in the mirror.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
There's a lot of owners that don't look in the mirror,
and they see that and they go, well, somebody else
got to get it, not me.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
I own the team.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
I llah Frank McCourt didn't look in the mirror until
fans really stopped showing up, and then baseball stepped in,
so do That's also the problem with the ownership that
they don't you know, they can always blame someone else
because they own the team, but they rarely will look

(09:42):
in the mirror and go, maybe it's something i'm doing
that I've got to change, and that rarely happens. But
I'm just going back to that he nobody had his back,
it felt like in Dallas, and maybe they did. Maybe
there was things that we missed in articles or statements
that we missed, but they weren't loud enough for all
of us to hear it or everybody to hear that. Hey,

(10:04):
this was a collective decision by the organization. It was
everything fell on Nico and he took it and now
he's taking it walking. So it's a you know, it's
a it's a it's a tough thing, but some sometimes
the ownership's gotta be front and center. You remember, you know,
Magic had the beef and the run in with Paul

(10:26):
Westhead and it was almost like he or him or
me and I can't I can't stay here if this
is gonna be and and Jerry bus stepped in said,
we're not. This is the face of our franchise for
the next ten years. We're not trading him. So by Paul,
come on, pat come out of the booth, pat Riley,

(10:49):
do you think you know Kobe, Kobe wanted to get
out of here at one point, you know, the ownership
had to make a decision Kobe or shot right. It
didn't fall on Mitch Cupcheck and fall on uh. You know,
you know, Jerry west had influence when he was in there,
but it didn't fall on Cupcheck. It was like, Okay,

(11:09):
Jerry Buss made that call that I'm going with the
younger kid. That's you know, that's going to be more
of our future. That's going to put the people in
the seats. And yes, shock Shack is dominant, but I'm
not gonna be held hostage to that. And so ownership
stepped in and made made the decision. And everybody knew
it was ownership decision. But in this case, they just

(11:32):
left Nico out to dry.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
It won't take long until people realize what happened. And
here's why a Nico Harrison, by all accounts, it's pretty
good basketball guy. That's fair to say, Rodney. Mm hmm, Okay,
here's what happens. Let's see how long and it won't happen. Now,
give it a little time, you can give it the
whole season. What does he surface next? He won't be

(11:57):
a GM. But let's see what front office hires him.
If in fact, he was told what to do, people
around the league will know that and they won't dismiss
his ability as a basketball guy.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Oh he's tainted, Fred, No, you're wrong. He's not going
to anytime soon be in a meaningful position in the
front office of basketball. They have blown him up for
the foreseeable future, and I don't know if he can
recover from this, because that is the top of mind
with everybody when you mentioned his name, is he made

(12:36):
the worst trade in history. And so by doing that,
who's going to hire him? Charlotte, you know, New Orleans, Miami, Orlando.
I mean, who's going to hire him after this narrative
is out about him? There's not going to be a
team that's going to hire him. They may get a job,

(12:58):
but it's not going to be a meaningful one for
some period of time. And that's the that's the shame
of it, because he I mean, I don't know him.
I don't know you know, how he works internally with
his with the with the organization. But I think up
until then, there are a lot of people singing his
praises and respecting him. But I think that now it's

(13:19):
he is so tainted. It's gonna be hard for him
to find a gig in the upper front office of
any franchise.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
For a while for a while.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
I mean, he's not gonna be the GM. Maybe he'll
be an adviser of some sort. They certainly won't ask
him to advise on trades, not after this. But it
also speaks to the the forgotten group, the fans. That's
what this speaks to, the forgotten group, the people that
oftentimes aren't taken into account because if you're a fan,

(13:53):
you're a fan, and that's the way it works. I've
said it many times. I've never seen it before, but
it certainly did happen here when Frank McCord owned the
Dodgers and people said, we are going to boycott the games.
I've never seen it before, and they did it, and
it worked. When five thousand people are showing up, there's
a problem.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
It worked.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
People stood on a hillside gathering during games. They weren't
going to go. They'd had enough. And that's when baseball
actually stepped in right then and there. So now you
have a fan base in full rebellion. And I said
the other day, making this worse is that Luca is

(14:36):
playing the way he is. That's what really makes this bad.
He has come out on fire. He looks like he
can lead the league in scoring. And maybe it's because
he left the Mavericks and maybe he needed a kick
to get himself together.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
For whatever he said before he did that in Dallas.
What are you saying? Yeah, but I'm saying he looks
better now, lost.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Way, he's in shape now, but he was still scoring
at will. He put that team on his back to
get to the finals. Remember it was two years ago
that they three years ago maybe two years ago they
made the finals. But it was Luca who put that
team on his back. And he's always been in three
to five in scoring. So he's not doing anything more

(15:20):
than he did in Dallas for that team. It's just
now he's doing it for the Lakers, and it's front
and center, and I think more importantly, he looks the
part now.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
And that's it. Rodney, Yeah, he looks the part. So
what does that say?

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Well, it says they couldn't get through to him in Dallas,
or he wasn't willing to listen in Dallas, or he
wasn't prepared to listen in Dallas, or whatever they were
doing in Dallas with him didn't work. Whatever it was,
it didn't work. That's what that says. But now when
you see him looking the part and playing the way
he is, that makes it worse worse. Anthony Davis hurt,

(15:58):
that's a shock that's a surprise. He was hurt with
the Lakers. Now in later years he wasn't, but there
was a period of time every year he got hurt,
showed up overweight.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
So here we go.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
We're starting the new season, and let's see how the
trade plays out. The guy we traded to LA can
lead the league in scoring, looks better than he ever
has in his life. Our guy is overweight and hurt.
There need you say more? And add to it that
you have traded the guy who's one of the top

(16:32):
three players in the league for Anthony Davis.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
I don't know who they could have traded for.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
I don't know who would have been available to them,
but I know this. You got to get a bigger
haul than that, and that's a problem. It was sort
of like, just get him the hell out of here,
That's what this is.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Go We've had enough. Whoever's had enough? Eco have enough?

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Did Jason Kid have enough? Did the owner have enough?
Get him the hell out of here?

Speaker 3 (17:07):
All right?

Speaker 1 (17:07):
We got Anthony da Fine, at least you got a
d That's what this is. And now somebody had to pay.
Our guy is overweight and hurt, right, I don't know
where that came from our guy is overweight and hurt.

(17:29):
There you say it again, fred our guy is overweight
and hurt. Yeah, so there you go, There you go,
and we wish Nico the best. Good luck to Nico Harrison.

(17:53):
All right, when we come back to Salty a Adam
awesot little join us. Let's talk more about that and
get into the Lakers and Clippers today.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Ready Freddy, Freddy, Ready, somebody get his attention. He took
his headphones off.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Freddy, Just do it, Just do it.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
I don't have it, do it, all right, you're gonna
put the jingle in Katie. You're just gonna let her
do it later. All right. Okay, Hey, you never think
it's gonna be you until it is. You're sitting at
a red light, sipping your coffee, maybe your kids in

(18:45):
the back seat, and baym you're rear ended out of nowhere.
Your heart's racing, your neck's already stiff. The other driver says,
let's not involve insurance. Sound familiar. Hey, just breathe and
remember one thing. Call Jacob. And now there's a new
number to make it easier than ever. Eight hundred three, four, five, six, seven,

(19:11):
eight nine It doesn't get easier than that. Eight hundred
three four five six seven eight nine. Jacob and Ronnie
has been standing up for accident victims in LA for
nearly thirty years. He knows how the insurance companies play
the game delay, deny, deflect, but not on his watch.
He's built the most trusted team in the city and

(19:33):
now they've got the easiest number in town. Eight hundred
three four five six seven eight nine. Call Jacob before
you call any insurance company, before you post, before you
say the wrong thing. It could cost you no upfront fees.
You don't pay unless Jacob wins. He's the official sponsor

(19:54):
of your Los Angeles Lakers. Follow at Call dot Jacob
on Instagram, Count on Jacob at eight hundred three four
five six seven eight nine, or visit called Jacob dot
com again eight hundred three four five six seven eight nine.
Called Jacob, Yes, yes, yes, thank you, oh yes, come

(20:27):
on now, let's keep it moving. It is a Tuesday,
eleventh of November. Rodney p Fredrogan and full show for
us today, and we got to get it all in,
which is why we got our man in today.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Talk to NBA.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
It's time to put away the World Series and the Dodgers,
or is it Well just for a minute, and let's
bring in our man double A, the salty one, Adam Auslin.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
He's fat and he's injured. Sorry, Fred, that was good.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Thank you. What do you think of what happened with
Nico Harrison.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
I think you guys are giving the Patrick Dumont ownership
group too much credit. Nico Harrison had carb Blanche. All
the reports from the get go was he had this
decision on his plate. Yes, of course they have to
sign off on it, but they trusted him. They gave
him the ability and empowered Nico Harrison to do this

(21:26):
because they thought he was a basketball genius. This goes
back to we're a year and a half removed from
them being in the NBA Finals, and to get there,
he made a great move. He brought in PJ. Washington,
he brought in Daniel Gafford. It worked so at the
time Nico looked like a genius. So now he goes
to the ownership group and say, hey, I want to

(21:47):
do this as well. I don't think he's our type
of guy. He doesn't have the Mamba mentality. Luca not
just won't stay in shape, and they bought it, and
they're not Mark Cuban, who's a minority owner now, who
would be much more involved. And a decision like that.
The Dumont family just got in and they seemed pretty
lase a fair. And I don't know about the conspiracy
stuff with moving to Vegas, but I'm pretty sure this

(22:11):
was on Nico fully because look at the way, look
at the way he talked with the media about this,
like the ego, the amount of times we heard, hey,
we'll see if I'm right. He wanted to prove everybody
wrong and prove that he's the smartest guy in the room,
and it backfired and he looked like a fool. And
it's probably the worst trade in sports history because everybody

(22:33):
first guessed it. You know, herschel Walker. You didn't know
what Dallas was gonna end up with in that trade
with the draft picks and hershel Walker was great. This
is you knew right away because of Anthony Davis's injury history,
because they didn't get Austin Reeves out of the trade,
that there was no way they got enough for a
guy and Luka Dancic, who just led them to the

(22:54):
NBA Finals and was a top five player and is
a top five player at worst in this league. He's
an offensive force. Everything's leaning towards offense. In this league.
You have to have somebody like that. And he miscalculated
and felt like, well, because we didn't win the finals,
that means we can't win with Luca. No, you build
a better team around somebody like that. I mean, they

(23:17):
were able. He keeps talking about defense the entire time. Oh,
defense is what wins championships. Their defense was great after
they made that trade. They had the number one defense
I think the rest of the season when he brought
in Gafford and PJ. Washington. So clearly you could support
Luca and Kyrie in the starting lineup with good enough

(23:37):
defenders around them to insulate them even though they're not
great defenders, and still make it to the NBA Finals.
They lost mostly because Kyrie had a bad series, a
few other role players did, and the Boston Celtics were
spectacular and they played the analytics game much better than
Dallas did from distance. This wasn't Luka. Doncic has fatal flaws.

(24:00):
You can't win a championship with him. I have no
idea what Nico Harrison was looking at it had to
be something more personal because he was around Kobe Bryant.
He saw his work ethic and he felt like Luca
was never going to get there and he didn't want
to pay him all that money. This is on Nico Harrison.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, yeah, I get it, and I always say the
majority is on Nico. But Adam, you're not in this
age in twenty twenty on teams and people that buy
these franchises for extraordinary amount of money that is more
than we've ever seen before. It's skyrocketed. Somebody within that
ownership camp. I don't know, maybe it's not the principal owner,

(24:40):
but somebody within that ownership camp as to look at
this and go is this a good thing or a
bad thing? And have difference of opinion way in on
whether or not you trade the face of the franchise.
I don't care who you Stan kronkyou would People would
argue that he is kind of passive and stays out

(25:02):
of it. You know, he's on the business side, but
when it comes to trades and whatever and players and
you know he relies on on McVeigh and less need
to go do their thing. Yes they do, but when
it comes to a major decision, like when they went
to go get Matthew Stafford, they called Kronky and get it,

(25:23):
got him to sign off on it.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Can we do this? Can we do this?

Speaker 2 (25:26):
And Cronky said, yeah, if this is what we need,
let's go get it. But they called him and they
got him to sign off on it. Same thing with
you know anything that happened with Mark Walter. Mark Walter
is he Andrew Friedman runs the show. And Andrew Friedman
makes Most would argue that Andrew Andrew Friedman is the architect,

(25:49):
even even above Stan Casten when it comes to baseball decisions.
Stan Casten is the architect of the Dodger organization as
a whole. But when it comes to baseball, well it's
Andrew Friedman. But Andrew Friedman doesn't make a move, a
major move, without calling Mark Walter and saying, what do

(26:10):
you think about this? We're thinking about getting show hey,
or we're thinking about trading for Mookie Betts, or we're
thinking about going after Freddie Freeman.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
It is a call that they make.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
And so my thing is, I get it, Nico's got
a lot of power, but why are you letting him
hang out the dry and not coming out saying this
is an organizational decision and we all felt.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
This was best for the organization.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
That's all I'm saying, Well, maybe they should have supported
that more. I don't think it would make any difference.
The fan base is not going to be like if anything,
maybe there was self preservation because they saw the initial
blowback and so they didn't want to act like they
were in support of what Nico did or would go
out of their way. But I understand ownership has to

(26:59):
sign off. This was Nico, this was him as the
driving force for this, his relationship with Rob Polinka. None
of this happens if it's not Nico. Nico out there
and I just look the Dallas Mavericks fans are elated today,
but they've been through hell because of this. It's unbelievable
how what has transpired over the last nine months.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah, and Adam that heardsh at the box office, too,
doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
I mean, ultimately people get upset, they don't want to
buy tickets or something like that. You traded away one
of the best players in the game. How are you
going to replace them? And by the way, that was
the best deal he could do. Anthony Davis. Nobody else talked.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
To him, No, because he didn't make it public. He
was only talking with Rob Polinko.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
In the middle of the night. Yeah, he did it
in the middle of the night.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
They could have driven up the price. Yeah, they might
have been able to get Anthony Edwards, but you know
what the problem was. Nico Harrison was also infatuated with
Anthony Davis because he worked with him at Nike. He
loved his game. Hey, we're gonna build around the front
line and have a great defensive team. Like it's the
only guy in the world that would have thought this
was a good idea. And he happened to be working

(28:05):
for the Dallas Mavericks and had Luka Doncic. It's this
is the only person. It was just the perfect amount
of circumstances.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
So you're saying Roblinka couldn't say yes fast enough.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
Oh please, Hey, guys, if.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Let me run something by you, Rob, listen, we're thinking about, uh,
we're not happy with the work ethic of of Luca
here in Dallas, and we're we're we're thinking about maybe
moving yes, yes, yes, what do you need?

Speaker 3 (28:35):
What do you need? Hey? You know what, We're gonna
hook you up. We'll give me Davis. There you go.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
Well, what happens if Nico ends up in the Lakers
front office at some low level position?

Speaker 3 (28:47):
See, I think that could happen.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Now, I'm not saying for the Lakers, but I think
you'll get a job in some low level positions.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
You're saying because him and him and Rob's position and
friendship may end up. He may end up with the Lakers.
I don't think again, talking about signing off, you don't
think they go to Luca and go, hey, we're bringing
in Nico. What do you think or are they going
to do that behind his back without even asking him?

Speaker 3 (29:14):
If this is a good idea.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
I mean, it's a fair point, and the NBA would
look at it like, wait a second, now, it really
feels like collusion. We can't have him here. So I
just it's felt like that's from day one, because the
absurdity of the trade, like it's just one more step
and what makes sense for something like this to happen.
But I was baffled that it took this long. I'm

(29:37):
watching every college football coach get fired over the last month,
and I'm like, and Nico's still standing, and I knew
it was coming. We all knew it was coming eventually here.
But to Fred's point, it's the fans. They had the power,
and it got so toxic at home games. They had
to do something when you're losing, it was toxic. When

(29:58):
even when they won games, you still we're getting the
fire and Nico chance. Now you're on a losing streak.
They got Cooper Flag luckily out of this. I mean,
what would have happened if they didn't get the number
one pick and get Cooper Flag. How much worse would
things be? Then they're still, you know, in a reasonably
decent spot in some ways, because they have assets and

(30:18):
they have him. The reason you have to fire Nico now, though,
is not just because of the fans in the uproar.
It's you can't let someone like that have a chance
to try to fix this. He's not the one who
gets to fix the fire that he started. And because
you can't trust him in whatever move he might try
to make next to try to get them out of

(30:39):
this mess that he created. That's why you have to
get rid of Nico now more so than anything.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
To me, all right, let's talk now. Luk Ahead thirty
eight last night.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, there you go, Lakers beat Charlotte.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Are you surprised by the Lakers?

Speaker 4 (30:52):
Start at him a little bit? Where they eight and
three now? And I was looking at some of the
numbers earlier, and they've beaten some good teams. They've done
so obviously without Lebron, but Austin Reeves's miss games, Luca
has missed games. JJ Redick has done a great job
of getting everybody to buy in Marcus Smart with him
and the starting lineup was always the move. But we

(31:12):
weren't sure how healthy he'd be over the last couple
of years. With how he's looked out there, they needed,
I said, coming into the season, either Marcus Smart Vanderbilt
or Jake Laarravia to have a career year. And right
now la Rabia is having a good year and Marcus
Smart's having a renaissance type of season.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Now, are you shocked by Margaret Smart and his resurgence
and the way he's playing right now? Because a lot
of people questioned that and whether he, you know, was
past his prime, past the ability, and he was obviously
known as a defensive guy and tenacious and all of that.
But are you shocked at the way he's started the season.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
I mean, I knew if healthy he could deliver some
of that defensive spirit they needed out there, just somebody
who could lead them on that end. I just was
I'm sure if he was going to be able to
stay healthy. With his time in Washington and Memphis recently,
like he looked like a shell of himself. They brought
him along slowly in training camp in preseason. It's still

(32:11):
early and older guys like this can get banged up.
We can get to the Clippers in a little bit.
But uh, he's been impressive. He's been very impressive. But
to me, it's JJ Reddick. And they also have had
I'm not trying to be a hater here, but they've
had some decent good fortune. They're five and oh in
coin flip games, in clutchtime games, last five minutes of

(32:32):
a game within five points. They're five and oh in
though in that area that's not going to last. It's
not sustainable. And they've also been shooting like fifty five
percent in the mid range, which is not sustainable. But
but they've been doing this without full health. DeAndre Ayton
Fred can't be hating right now because he's played well.

(32:53):
Ayton is eating Freddie. He's played well. The game he
had in Portland, the game in Portland without Luca, without
Austin Reeves, of course, no Lebron James. He gets twenty
nine points. Nick Smith Junior gets twenty five off the bench.
I mean Mario dger Morris had multiple twenty point games,
but eight and back in Portland really showed me something

(33:14):
like he's got some fire within him right now and
JJ Redicks getting the most out of him.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Fred Freddy, you say, Freddy, just say I said I
would keep an eye on him this year and I
hope he played well.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
And he has Oh my god, really I did say
that at the beginning.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
You know, it's it's still early, fred We'll see what happens.
But he's gotten off to a good start and.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Let's go Clippers. They are banged up.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Oh boy, it's it's Kawhi Leonard again. Out Honestly, their
injuries aren't an excuse for being three and seven. That
there aren't enough injuries to say they should be three
and seven. Guys, we came into this year saying, at
worst they should be seven and three with the first
ten games, considering they had a softer schedule.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
To start.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
That's what's so alarming about this with the Clippers. But
Bradley Beale now could be out for a while, and
he's been on a minute restriction and hasn't looked right.
And they're zero to four without Kawhi Leonard and we
don't know if he's playing tomorrow yet. He's got a
sprained right foot and nothing is working. Last year they
were a top three defense. Right now they're twenty sixth defensively,

(34:15):
and there's quite frankly, no excuse for them being that bad.
No excuse. But they brought in what we thought was
a great hole this offseason with CP three, with Brook Lopez,
with Bradley Beal, with John Collins. Outside of John Collins,
the other three guys have well underperformed or have just
looked their age. Chris Paul he hasn't played the last

(34:36):
two games because he got off to such a slow start.
You know, he's forty. Brook Lopez has been okay. But
they are struggling right now, and all the criticism about
their age and being the oldest team so far has
proven out that way. And you're three and seven and
it's only getting tougher from here. Look at it. This way,
they could beat Denver tomorrow, which would be a huge,

(34:59):
massive win for them considering the guys they have out
in completely unexpected. They got a seven game road trip
after that. If they went four and three on that
road trip and then came back home, they would still
be eight and ten to start off the season. That's
what happens when you put yourself in a hole starting
off three and seven. It's brutal.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Is it fixable, Adam given or is it just injuries
with the Clippers right now? Or is this what they
did in the offseason? And you mentioned age and sometimes
guys they become who they are at a certain age.
Is this a fixable situation if they do indeed try

(35:40):
to stay healthy for a stretch during the season. Can
this team be a team like most people thought they
could be at started the season.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
So a couple of years ago, that first season with
James Harden, they also started three and seven, and they
lost their first five games with James Harden and they
still won fifty one games and they were a top
four seeds. That they could be a six seed or
playing team right now. But it's gonna be really difficult
now to get into the upper echelon of the West

(36:09):
because they started so slow. We're twelve or thirteen percent
of the way into the season and this was the
easiest part of their schedule and they blew it. And
maybe internally they get better and guys get their sea legs.
Some of these older players are just starting slow to
this season. It's totally reasonable as possible, but you're behind

(36:30):
the eight ball now. You're gonna be in an uphill
battle throughout a lot of the season unless you go
on a run like they did a couple of years
ago and winning twenty six of thirty one games. That
was the best regular season run they ever had. That's
how they got back into it. Do they have a
run like that in them with this group, I don't know.
There's far too many issues going on right now and
not enough solutions for this team.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
And if they lose to Denver, there'll be big underdogs
in that game tomorrow night. They' three and eight. It's
just I'm stunned that things have gone this poorly, this quickly.
When we thought this is the one time they're actually
going to get off to a good start this year,
and it went the opposite away.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
All right, Adam thanks for coming on, Thanks for hanging today.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
Yeah, it was cool, except for that last part talking
about the Clippers.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
There you go, all right, Uh, coming up at one o'clock.
Who might the Dodgers. Well, everybody knows the name. Let's
figure out if it's the guy they should pursue a
free agency. And also during the one o'clock hour was
an NFL coach trolling another team's fans.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Today's Afternoon Delight it is Home by Mario. This track
is the latest single off the R and B singers
forthcoming EP entitled mood Swings, which would drop later this week.
The eight track set includes a feature from Ti Dallas
Sign among others who have yet to be announced. Again,

(38:16):
Today's Afternoon Delight is Home by Mario and Afternoon Delight
is brought to you by Fantasy Springs Resort Casino, a
premiere Palm Springs gaming destinations. Right now, call her number
five to eight, six, six, nine eighty seven, two five
seventy we'll win a two night hotel, stay, dinner for
two at Palm and golf for two at Eagle Falls

(38:39):
Golf Course at Fantasy Springs Resort Casino.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
All right, and now from the court to the court
room with Jacob m RONI okay, check with a good friend,
takeing a Ronie Jacob.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
Good afternoon, gentlemen. How are you good?

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Jacob?

Speaker 1 (39:02):
I gotta start with this, Jacob. And to me, it's
the biggest thing in the world. Eight hundred three, four, five, six, seven,
eight nine. Why a new phone number?

Speaker 5 (39:13):
You know, people are always so kind. Everybody comes up
to me in the middle of the street and they're
always saying, if I'm ember involved in an accident, I'm
calling you, I'm calling you. But when they tell me
what number they're calling, everyone gives me a different number.
And obviously, you know, I felt, why do people even

(39:34):
have to go and search us up to get our number?
Why do they have to go online and you know,
put our you know name in And what's interesting is
that sometimes when people go and search call Jacob, there's
other firms that are pirating our name, which means they
are buying ad space above us. And then the person

(39:57):
pushes on theirs by mistakes and then calls firm and
unfortunately they're not straightforward, and they even lie to clients
and tell them that they're associated with us. So a
lot of people are upset when people lie to them.
And now we came up with this one eight hundred three, four, five, six, seven,
eight nine, and you know it's you don't even have

(40:18):
to think about it anymore. Everyone can remember that and
they can make sure that they can call us right
after without even making an extra effort to go look
for the phone number.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Wow, were you shocked that it was available, Jacob? I mean,
I know you've been in the business a long time,
but to have that number and that number be available
for you guys to use, that's kind of that's pretty incredible.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
Yeah, So that's a very unique number, and you know
it's a number that obviously we had to purchase and
we have to make a very big investment in. But
you know, when when you think about reaching out to somebody,
no matter who it is, these days, people just press
a nun number. They only you don't even know your

(41:02):
you know, maybe your wife's number by heart, You just
know how to press it on your phone. So having
a phone number in your head when you're actually in
the middle of stress after an accident or a family
member calls you and says I was just rearended what
do I do? And now You're like, hold on, let
me go look for you know, Jacob's number, let me
go look for an attorney's phone number. It's light on
top of their head. And we're hoping that we can

(41:25):
just make it easier for people and help even more people.
You know, remember how to find us?

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Eight hundred and three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine.
Just kind of rolls off your tongue, Jacob, Okay, what if?

Speaker 3 (41:40):
What if? And our and our listeners loving you offer
this advice.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Instead of an insurance company calling you after an accident,
it's an attorney from the other side calling you.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Does that ever happen?

Speaker 5 (41:53):
Yeah, So that's crazy, you know. Unfortunately, we had to
get together with a family who just lost their daughter
in a major accident. Their daughter was driving and got
hit by an eighteen wheeler and she passed away at

(42:14):
the scene of the accident. It was a terrible, terrible accident,
and when she called us, she said she wasn't getting
contacted by an insurance company. An attorney kept calling her,
and that was very odd because the insurance company did
not even want to contact or be involved. They hired
an attorney immediately, knowing that their exposure is going to

(42:38):
be so high. I think I want to caution people
that any time an attorney reaches out to you, or
at least they say they're an attorney, you have to
have your own attorney get involved and make a phone
call back, because these days that could actually be an
attorney that's representing the other side. That could be an
attorney that is illegally soliciting you know, your representation by

(43:03):
trying to call you even though you didn't call them.
So to me, it kind of becomes a little bit suspect.
Usually an insurance company is the one that reaches out
to you and says, hey, we'd like to take your statement.
What happened, tell us your side of it. When an
attorney's reaching out, you really need to make sure that
you know, you cross your cheese and dot your eyes

(43:23):
and not talk to an attorney by yourself. Make sure
you have somebody to make the call on your behalf.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yeah crazy, Hey, hey Jacob, real quick, did you did
you send any flowers to Nico Harrison today?

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (43:40):
I know it's a sad day for Nico, but you know,
thanking him for making crazy as trade in history.

Speaker 5 (43:50):
You know, actually I sent him? Ah, you know edible arrangement,
you know, set of flowers. But I'm a little I
was actually a little disappointed because I was hoping we
can get you know, Daniel Gafford, or get another one
or two players.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
While he's there.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
So now that he's gone, I don't think if we're
gonna be able to make another trade. So, yeah, that's
that's kind of you knew that was coming. Unfortunately, you know,
all that negative press. It's interesting that he lasted as
long as he did. And I don't know if he's
the fall guy. I don't know if the decision was
made by somebody else and he just has to be
the one that's on the chopping block. But you know,

(44:27):
I don't think any of us are surprised that it
finally happened.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Yeah, I mean, it couldn't happen quite as quickly as
people wanted. They had to let it play out a
little bit. Don't you think you just couldn't like blow
him out immediately. He just made the deal. But yeah,
that's that's it for him.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
Yeah, but you know, they ended up getting the number
one picked. They ended up picking Cooper Flag. You know,
you thought, okay, you know, the basketball gods or somebody
ended up making it, you know, making it better. But
I feel like, obviously, unfortunately, as much of fan of
Ad that I am, you know, you can't get away
from his injuries. And if you've made a trade like

(45:07):
that with a guy that doesn't really play, the pressure
even becomes worse, even if you did get the number
one pick.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Yeah, well I think that's fair to say, all right,
Jacob eight hundred three four five sixty seven eight nine,
Thank you for coming on today.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
My pleasure. Guys, I have a great rest.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Of your day you too.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
As we continue this hour, Ben Bolt of the Times
will join us. We'll learn more about what UCLA's planning
to do the Rose Bowler sofi when we come back.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
Some hot stove Dodger free agency

Roggin And Rodney News

Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know
Ruthie's Table 4

Ruthie's Table 4

For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.