November 11, 2025 • 41 mins
Roggin and Rodney talk all things NFL with Vinny Bonsignore and then It's LIT!!!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Diard.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Let's continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on a five
seventy LA Sports later this hour. What has happened since
we've been on the air. All kinds of things have
been going on, and you probably haven't been kept up
today on a lot of them. So we will do
that with What's It's Lit? And that'll be coming up
a little bit later on in the hour. But now
let's continue on and bring on our good friend Vinnie
(00:23):
bond signor our NFL insider and quality human being, Benny.
I'd like to start with this. I think it was
either Saturday or Sunday morning. Are you there, Vinnie?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yes, I am.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Okay, Saturday or Sunday morning. My phone rang very early.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Do you remember this?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yes? I do.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
And I thought, my god, if Minnie is calling me
this early, this has got to be something major, I
swear to god.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I thought, oh my god, I felt so bad. I
felt so bad. I didn't care because why else would
I call you that early in the morning? Right right?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
So I'm thinking, oh my god, Vinnie, what is it?
And then I get this sorry like leg dial or something.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I thought, he do what? Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I thought you're gonna tell me a story. Was this right?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
But no, I know I felt horrible because I figured,
you know, when when you get a call that early,
it's something important, and sometimes it's not even good news.
To be honest with you, we all know that I
do it. Yeah, exactly, it can't be good. So I
had to immediately, I got I got to let him
know that that was not you know, and I felt
bad that I probably woke you up all that. So, so, yeah,
(01:25):
I don't sleep.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I'm like a vampire. I never sleep.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
That he can call me any time, I'll answer immediately.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Hello.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
All right. By the way, I'm very impressed. I'm very
impressed that you that you know what the term lit means,
like I hope you do anyway with your segment, that
you know that you know that terminology. That's that's really good.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I'm impressed.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Seriously, Vinnie, seriously, you.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Know you got young kids. Thank god he's got young kids. Yeah,
that's true.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Hey, Vinny, what's a whip?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
You know what a whip is? You got?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I mean, I do know what a whip is, but
I guarantee you I'm not using it correctly in terms
of this conversation. So no, I don't. I don't believe.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I know fred Fred is going he went to the
string lingo, I think, Benny. So, yeah, you're definition. A
whip doesn't mean what they talk about when it comes
to baseball.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Okay, not that right, Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
One time, Vinnie I did a show called Whip Maddick.
Now what is a whip? And then I'll tell you
the slogan of the show.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Okay, A whip is something that you whip somebody with, right,
I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
NNN Street. Craig goes down.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Now, Vinnie, it's a car car with not a car whip?
Were the cars are the stars?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
You see?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I know, I know terms, I.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Know li whip.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I just walked right into it.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
What am I doing right now?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I know?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
I know?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I know?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
My bad, my bad?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
All right? Get me listen.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So Dolphins coach Mike McDaniel was in his whip and
driving a rock to a bar, trolling bills fans.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Do you believe that?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yes or no?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Normally I would say no, but no on Mike, I
would say absolutely yes, without without without question. He's he's
an interesting dude without with you know, no question about it.
One of the more I mean, I would love to
be a reporter covering a team that he coaches, just
for the just for the press conferences, and just how
he is and how he handles it, handles things. So
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I'm gonna say, yes that that was not Ai, that
was actually him trolling Buffalo Bills fans.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
God, you bought it, okay, right, he still don't buy it.
You don't buy it with him. I didn't want to
buy it.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I guess I gotta buy it now, Rodney, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I think I don't know if thirty one other coaches,
you probably wouldn't buy it. I don't know who other
than him who would actually drive by a bar that
the Buffalo fans hang out in and troll them. I mean,
if you put a poll together and you put faces
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up there of coaches, I don't think you'd look at
thirty one other other teams and coaches and go, nah,
he wouldn't do it, now, mc theay, no, Shanahan, no,
you know, Andy absolutely.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Not no no no no.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
No, no no no, no, Rabel no no. And it
would go through the list and then it would come
to McDaniel and go.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Maybe exactly he would Yeah, And I'm hoping it was
him I think that's I think it's all right. I
don't mind that. I mean, he hasn't had much too
glote about this year, without question. So in the one
where you know he's he's he's earned himself a little
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bit of a time to be able to stick it
to somebody. Why not, it's all it's all as fun.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah anything.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
He probably knows he's not going to be there next
year anyway, so it's like, hey, let me have my fun.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Exactly who knows he ends up the office of coordinator
of the Buffalo Bills. They may need a new office
of coordinator the way things are going up.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
There, all right, ask you this?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Uh yeah, Belichick, Okay, I would say not exactly. An
auspicious debut season at North Carolina, the Giants job is
open now, he says he's not. He's focused on Wake
four as sure he is, But uh, can you see
him jumping back into the NFL?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I could see it. But there's no way if I'm
the New York Giants, I'm going down that road.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
None.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I've got a I've got a bright, young potential star
in Jackson Dart. I want a defensive mindned coach that's
going to take this quarterback and run with it, you know.
And I don't want to reach back into my past.
I know Bill Belichick was great with the New York
Giants as their defensive coordinator back in the day. But
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I want someone in to connect with my young quarterback
because that's the most important position that he's got to
connect with, and I'm not so sure that that would
be Bill Belichick. I wouldn't do it, but you know,
you're never surprised anymore with some of the moves that
owners make. And I could see it from the Giants perspective,
like I said, reaching back into their past bringing in
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an all time great NFL coach. But I wouldn't do it.
I absolutely would not do that at all.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
The only way that happens is and wouldn't happen because
Belichick's not going to give that up, is that they
would have to hire him with the stipulation of we
are also going to hire the offensive coordinator and the
defensive coordinator or whoever, but especially.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Offense because they allow him.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
He'll, you know, bring in his sons and bring in
his family and whoever else, and and try to tell
him what to do. I just I don't know if that.
I get the idea, and it's exciting when you first
think about it. Then you think about all the baggage
that he brought to Carolina. Yeah, you're like, I don't
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know if we we don't need that at the Giants
with a young, up and coming face of the franchise quarterback,
do we need to bring all that to him?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Can you imagine that the tabloids running with that story
that whole you just in New York? Yeah, exactly the
guy that I think. I mean, I don't know that
Lane wants to leave college at this point, but I
would imagine Lane Kiffin has some monthish business. Uh, you know,
in the NFL it didn't it didn't go well with
the Raiders obviously, but he's grown. I've talked to a
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lot of people that you know that that that that
no Lane, and how much he's matured and grown up
since that we've kind of seen it. I mean, there's
still a few episodes every once in a while where
the crazy Lane you know, says something on social media
or is captured doing something talking smack to a player
from another team, you know, but but by and large,
he's really matured and grown up. And I would love
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to see Lane Kipson get another chance in the NFL,
and why not with his former you know all miss
quarterback Jackson Dart. I think that would be a pretty
interesting thing in New York. And I think he would
be great in New York. By the way, you.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Do you think Wayne Kevin would be good.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
In New York as one thousand percent the way things
have changed now and social media and and that whole
side of it. And plus he's a really good coach,
a very good offensive minded coach, and so yeah, I
actually think that would be a really good idea. I
think his personality that's what the Giants need too. You know,
they've kind of stumbled around the last you know what
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decade or so, it's not really been good for for
a while. Now. There's nothing wrong to me about having
some electricity from your quarterback to your head coach and personalities, uh,
and maybe going against the grain and in some ways
and bringing some of his as to the New York Giants.
I think it would be great.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Yeah, And I think that's why, you know, a lot
of people are linking him to Miami too, with the
tou of connection and and then also you know, Lincoln
dable down there to UH to Miami. But yeah, I don't.
I just at this point, if I'm Lane, it has
to be an unbelievable deal because he is the king
of the castle in Oxford, Mississippi with the with old
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miss He can write his own ticket. He can do
whatever he wants because he's he's made them a consistent winner,
right and and so he can do whatever he wants.
But I think part of that is right with a
lot of coaches is that they feel like if they've
had a taste of the NFL, they want to do
it at the highest level. And there's some unfinished business
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with Lane in the NFL, Like people don't believe he's
he can succeed at the NFL level.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
That might be driving him to get back there.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
So we'll see, yeah, right, And if it doesn't work
in New York, he could he can always fall back
to college. There will always be a landing spot for
Lane Kippen in college football. I think everyone understands there's
a there's a good fit there and somebody that recruits
connect with. I mean the job that he's done at
at ole Myth to bring in the type of talent
that they've brought into, like you say, be as relevant
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as they have for the last few years, and now
they're a top ten team and they're headed to the playoffs,
and who knows what could happen. You know, from that
point on, he'll always be able to fall back to college.
The one thing that I if he's going to say
no to the hundreds of million, you know, I'm sure
LSU has an offer on the table to him if
in Florida as well, that exceeds one hundred million dollars.
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Nobody's going to pay him that in the NFL. So
if that's what's kind of kind of driving him, which
I'm not saying that it is, but you know, if
he's going to say no to jobs that are paying
him that kind of money, what would be the incentive
to go to the NFL. Other than it's a it's
a mountain that he wants to that he wants to climb,
and there's a lot to be said about that as well.
The motivation to go out to go to the next
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level of the highest level and succeed, I think would
drive somebody like a Lake Hi.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I'm looking up a salary right now at Old Miss
because he's got to be getting paid pretty well. Right now,
he's making nine million a year, a base of nine
million a year, not including bonuses.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yeah, one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
That's nothing. I mean, that's like a million dollars a
year more.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Right right, Yeah, absolutely, And unless it's.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Over, unless it's a five year deal for one hundred million,
that's a different conversation.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
That would be a different conversation.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
So economics and finances are going to come into it.
But I mean, he's he's made a lot of money,
and you know, I just wonder, you know, if what
the allure it would be for him in the NFL.
I got to imagine that it's a it's an age
that he'd be eager to scratch at some point. And
and this is just a perfect situation with his former
quarterback there you know that that that I think this
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is one that might raise his eyebrows a little bit.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Yeah, Yeah, I just you know, there's that you never
know what's going through. Some some guys are just you know,
I think satisfied or feel comfortable where they are. I
think there's some certain guys that have have a fired
like I think sark Is gonna wants to be at
Texas forever. I don't know if he wants to even
go go to the NFL. I think he found the
place where he can thrive and make a ton of
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much more money at Texas than any place in the NFL.
But you know, who knows who knows what? What drives everyone?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Vinnie.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
We tossed this around earlier, uh and the you know,
I think yesterday we talked about it with Eric Dickerson,
Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Is he the MVP of the league right now?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I think so? And he played just a spectacular game
on Sunday against Border nine. Then it was great to
see Karen Williams kind of bound from his game as well.
But yes, I mean at this point, uh, I mean
at his highest levels that he's ever played at. He's
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you take him off the Rams, and the Rams are
a very good football team, don't get me wrong, but
that that makes a huge difference. So where they there's
there's there's still eight weeks, eight games or so for
him to to really solify himself. But the way he's
playing shocked wasn't in the It wasn't in the UH station.
Come the end of the season, I hope people are
recognizing what the Rams are are are that's a football team. Uh,
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And they took the Niners a little bit to the woodshed.
On Sunday. Sean McVay was in his bag DeVante Adams
still showing people how good he is, you know, even
at this age. Cook and the coop, the defense. It's
a really good football team. And and when your quarterback
is playing at that high level and you're winning, that
quarterback is always going to be in the MVP consideration.
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And I think that it's crazy to me, though, did
you guys read this that he's now five hundred for
the first time in his career as a starting NFL
quarterback is his record? That's how much that's right?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
All right, Wow, Benny, thanks for coming on. Good infoes.
Always appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, every year since he's been with the Rams, So
it's taken him that long just to get to five
hundred for his career record as a starting quarterback. And
that's that's what sometimes playing for the Lions not anymore, thankfully,
but but those years were really really put a dent
in his record.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
All right, interesting stat. Thanks, Vinny appreciated Vinnie.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
All right, all right, have a good one.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Guys kept going.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
He became Vic.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Benny was Vic. He had phone issues, been kind of
broke up. We said, okay, thanks, Benny kept going.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
He's big. All right.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
When we come back, let's get you caught up on
everything with its lip.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Oh yeah, come on, we.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Keep it moving on a Tuesday, Rodney Pete Fred Rogan
just makes you feel good when you hear something like this.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Right, yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
We should say Katie's in for Ronnie today. Rodney, Katie
is in for Ronnie? Can't he putting their own spin
on our musical interludes? As I would say, do you
have anything to say about the Chargers today before we
go forward?
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Bolt up? Okay, thank you for that. I mean, you
know I shared my thoughts yesterday.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Well I understand, but it's a new day and maybe
we need and.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
I'm still right in the high I needed that much
of a decisive.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Win, you know, I just don't I think you ought
to be more effusive when you go bolt up. I
mean you should be a little more strong. Okay, that
was a little much. You don't have to be quite
that much.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You gotta be in the middle.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Middle.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Whatever happened to bolt Man, Fred and Katie bolt Man.
We had Boatman on the show one time, Runny.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Didn't they take his head away from him one time?
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
They took his head? Yeah? What happened to bolt Man, Katie?
Speaker 6 (16:13):
I think that when we moved he decided not to
come up. There were a lot of fans that were
very unhappy.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Oh, and I think he sold it.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Actually you could take our Chargers, but not our bolt Man.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
I think he like sold the whole get up. And
then I don't know. He maybe was one of the
games when they moved to La at Homeome, they.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Didn't let him in the sofa.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Oh that I'd see. I thought they took his head
away at Home Depot.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
Yeah. I think that he made it to like one
or two of the games there.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
And then where do you think his head is now?
Speaker 6 (16:50):
It's like Indiana Jones and it's just like in a
big warehouse of.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I think that's sad that Boltman lost his head. They
wouldn't let him in. I do if anybody knows we're Boltman,
his calls, I'd like to hear from the bolt Man.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
It's out there where those have you seen this Boltman?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Right?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
You know the number A six six ninety seven two
five seventy. If anybody has seen the real, the real
Boltman calls in, Yeah, what's his name?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Like Billy Pinkis? What's his name?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
How did you pick out Billy Pinks just out of
the blue? Do you must know that's his name or
you just you pulled that name out of a hat.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I went to school with Billy Pinkers, I know, But
how do you pull his name for Boltman? I don't know.
I just ran up.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
They picked out a guy that you went to school
with and said, Boltman is Billy Pinks.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I just thought, you know, maybe that would be a
guy that would dress up like Boltman.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yeap oh, that's like, yeah, I'm gonna say, Chris Suku.
He he's the guy that won testicle in college. That's
my man, I mean in high school. What was his
name again, Chris, Chris Suku. Yes, he's a you're right,
he's a guy one testicle.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
One testicle. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Now because of that, was he slower than the other
guys or faster because he wasn't carrying as much weight.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
I think it it allowed I don't know what his
specific skills were, but I think it was It was
certainly like a you know, as a if you're a
blind person that they your other senses are in are heightened.
If you're deaf, your other senses are heightened. Sure, so
I think if you have one testicle, other senses are heightened.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
All brains, one ball.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, wow, what I was gonna say. I hope Chris.
Chris doesn't live in l A.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
But now you can see and he listened to us
all on the iHeart app so he can be anywhere
listening to the show.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, maybe he should call talk about it. Yes, yes,
Chris Cuku Chris, certainly he made himself.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
I just I still to this day wonder how that
really got out there, because I'm sure if like, if
you have one testicle, right, let's say you're not telling
anybody about it, right, you don't raise your hand.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
You know, no, you don't raise your hand. You don't
talk about it. You know, you don't have the balls. Wow, wow, Jesus.
Although that wasn't bad. That was good. Actually, that wasn't
that that that was good.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
But you know, you get to a certain age as
you grow up and then you know your your your
pe activities intensify and you start playing sports and whatever.
And then then you start to shower. You don't shower
with with guys in elementary school. It's not until you
get to really to like what middle school, junior high,
playing sports or pe gets very active, you start taking
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showers before you go back to class.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Right, And that's when it started.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
That's when everybody found out there was a stare in
the in the boys locker room, right, And that's what happened,
started the rumor because I doubt Chris would have, you know,
volunteered that information.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
No, I don't think he'd raise his hand. It's like
you knew a guy with one testicle. I knew a
guy with one eye. You know it happens, Adam, What
what physical malady have you suffered?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Well? What should we know about you?
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Mine's all mental? Just listening to you, Fred.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
So, okay, that's fine, Katie. How about you, Katie?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Anything Katie than any other?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
What?
Speaker 6 (20:41):
No? I broke my elbow in kindergarten jumping off the
monkey bars, and then no kindergarteners were allowed on the
monkey bars after that.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Really, really, you created a mandate?
Speaker 6 (20:49):
I guess so.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Did it hurt?
Speaker 6 (20:53):
I don't know. I was five. I remember I was
upset because it was before my sixth birthday and we
were supposed to go bowling and I couldn't because I
was in a cat.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
There was oh sure.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
Traumatic, long lasting trauma.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Right handed and left handed, Katie?
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Are you I'm right handed and it was my left elbow,
but they.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Said no bowl. You still couldn't bowl even though you're
right handed and you broke your left I.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Mean I was also turning six. I mean at that point,
you got the you know, bumpers up and they've got
that little like bowling ball ramp thing.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I don't know what do you mean they have the
bumpers up when you're turning six? I still use them?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Are you not supposed to?
Speaker 6 (21:32):
What makes it fun for you?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Right?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
You know, back then, when you play, you play multiple sports,
you play all We have a basketball coach who you know,
all the coaches like they were, had priority. They wanted
you to play their sport only. But back then everybody
played every sport, and so the basketball coach when somebody
hurt their dominant hand, I was very happy about it
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because then all you could do is work on your
non dominant hand. Like if you're right hand you were
dribbling left handed, and he made you work. Even with
a cast on your right hand, It'll make you work
on your left hand. And uh, I remember my freshman year,
I broke my right wrist in the last game of
the football season, and I was getting ready to play
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basketball and I couldn't start, you know, practices with everyone.
But I couldn't. I couldn't believe how my basketball coach
was so excited because all I could do is everything
with my left hand. There it became better at my
left hand dribbling. See, that's how over aligning. That's how
it was in the old days.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I mean when I went to high school, every year
the coach would pick out one guy who was right
handed and hit him in the hand with a hammer.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Time.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
So you get better with your left hand, you gotta
get better with your left hand.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Come on, let me break that bad boy, right. That's
how they do. Wait. Wait, Katie, Katie, they really wouldn't
let your bowl?
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Was it your parents or was it the teacher who
was it didn't didn't let you bowl?
Speaker 6 (23:04):
I think my parents changed the birthday party. Maybe they
just I don't know. I also was probably pretty reckless
and would have been just like I'm beat. I'm fine,
let's run down.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Okay, good idea. You weren't out there right?
Speaker 6 (23:19):
Who knows that? Broken my other arm too?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, go sliding down the lane. I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Let me let me say this. If you bowl, I mean,
you know, and how many of us are Johnny Pattaglia
or Nelson Burton junior back in the day.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Here's a tip.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
If you go past that line, and you could ask Mookie,
I mean, Mookie and I could talk for hours about bulling.
But if you go across that line, it's very slippery.
I don't know if you realize that, Rodney, Ye, go
past that line. That's pretty slid is.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yes, it is. It's like they wax it. Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
They wax it past the line because you know, a
lot of a lot of footfaulting going on.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Fred, Yes, that's true, Adam, you good bowler.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
No, Fred, I'm not. But I enjoyed the big Lebowski.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
The dude.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Let's go, Brenna say, Kingpin you were You are more
of a Kingpin fan than big lebask I can.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Get with that bigger and McCracken, Yeah, big Ern the
bowling ball with glass with a rose on the inside.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yes, nobody like big Ern. Big Ern used to bring it.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
All right, whoever can answer this before we get it's
what going? Whoever can answer this will win a prize
and Katie you can play too. Okay, here's the question.
Can you tell me what the show Pinpoint was about?
Go ahead, anybody? What was it about bowling?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Well? Okay, but what were the rule Let's try it yet?
You everybody?
Speaker 5 (24:50):
That prize closet?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Yeah, even specified you just said, and Katie won it.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
But what made Pinpoint different that show? What was it? Yes,
it was about bowling, but what made it different?
Speaker 6 (25:08):
Was it candlestick bowling?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Okay, it was not candlestick bowling? Adam, would you like
to try? Uh?
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Were you playing with like a little rubber ball with
pins out there? I don't know, Freddy, No.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
It was not that as I'm sure it was a show.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Was a bad guest? I have a movie or a show?
It was a show. It was on CBS called Pinpoint? Pinpoint?
Speaker 6 (25:30):
What year was this on television?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Nine?
Speaker 5 (25:34):
It was no television.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
There was no television. We just imagined it in our mind.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
All at the same time, never heard a Pinpoint, never
heard a pinpoint.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Okay, here was a pin point.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
You know there was a time where bowling was really
big on TV. By the way, yes, that would be
every weekend. And Chick Curn used to do bowling for dollars.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Here that's the guy, Chrince, Chris, Chris Shinkle, Chris Finkle
was a big bowling guy.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I remember that.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
He's the PBA, the voice of the PB. Here was pinpoint.
You know how you try to knock ten pins down,
You got to strike or you gotta spare whatever. In pinpoint,
you would do it the opposite way. So in the
first frame you would knock one down, in the second
frame you would knock two down.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Was it a game show?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Well, it wasn't a game show, but it was like
this bowling show. But you did it competition bowling. It's
like nine ball, like nine ball and pool.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Yeah yeah, okay, right, bring it back, Fred, that'll be hot,
hotter than corn hole, all.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Right, Adam, let's go roll it Katie.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
All right, guys, Well, the Dallas Mavericks finally lit the
seat of Nico Harrison's on fire, and everyone's still reeling
and talking about this. In fact, we've been asking was
he just the fall guy the ownership group. Well, Seam
Sharania was on with steven A and answered that question earlier, Katie.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
Stephen A, it was Nico Harrison. It was Nico Harrison's decision,
It was Nico Harrison's pitch. It was Nico Harrison's idea
to trade Luka Dancic. But of course, any move that
gets made stephen A, you know, if a general manager
at any level is making a trade, it is with
the blessing and the sign off of ownership as well. Now,
it might have taken Nico Harrison days weeks to get
(27:28):
Patrick Dumont on board, But after the Mavericks made it
to the NBA Finals in twenty twenty four, I'm told
that's when the Patrick Dumont Nico Harrison relationship that was
the strongest it's ever been. That's when Patrick Dumont, what
I'm told, he looked at Nico Harrison as a basketball savant,
as someone that when Nico Harrison speaks, when he has
(27:49):
an idea, it's basketball gospel. And so when Nico Harrison
came to Patrick Dumont with that concept, there was alignment there. Eventually,
there was alignment within the office alignment with the coach.
And that's when you see this this transaction take place.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
When Niko Rrison speaks, it's basketball gospel no longer. Maybe
a little bit of inside there, hmm. I'm still just
wanting to pile on because I'm upset that the Clippers
couldn't have fleeced him instead of the Lakers. So we
were the ones who wanted Luca ad them.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Worst part of this, all right, he made a move.
It was a terrible move. All right, we got that.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
But the worst part is historically Fred historically bad.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah. Fair.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
The worst part is he didn't call anyone else. That's
what's bad about this. All Right, we're gonna make a
tough decision. We're gonna have to move him. We don't
want to do what we have to. It's best for us.
Let's make some phone calls. Not let's make one call
and the guy answers and it's done.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
That was the mistake, you know why, because he had
his mind set on Anthony Davis, the one guy out
there that was infatuated with a center who wants to
be a power forward, who's entered half the season, Nico
Harrison's favorite player.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Those are hard to come by.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Yeah, can't find those and you know from my world,
just finding and they're out there. And in all sports,
those guys that are become general managers become power hungry
and think they're bigger than the club or bigger than
the players. Actually when it's a player driven league. All
leagues now are player driven. He used to be where
(29:30):
even the NFL, who's the last bastion of the shield
matters more than the players. It's turned into a player
driven league. NBA has been there for years. And to
think that you're a general manager, that you're bigger than
the player, he just it just goes to show that
you're not a.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
Little bit hubris. Speaking of you guys were talking about
Lane Kiffin going back to the NFL. Well, now people
are asking what the job being open with the New
York Giants, if Bill Belichick would go back. He was
asked about that a little bit earlier, and in classic
Bill Belichick form, he said, quote getting ready for wake Forest,
(30:07):
That's all I got this week?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Is he still dating nut girl?
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Jordan Hudson.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, dating.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
I don't know why I listened to you just now.
You sound like one of my uncles. He's still dating
that girl. He still he's still dating that bad girl,
that girl that nobody likes. He's still dating that girl,
like one of my uncles.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Listen, the only thing interesting about Bill Belichick now is
him dating that girl. That's it.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
It ain't North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
No, it's not. It's not.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
And you know, we probably to a degree, nuked himself too,
going back to the NFL.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
And because it was going to be a disaster.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
You know, all of his sports and football acumen and smarts,
and you know how you can see things from a
mile away if you're you know, been in it for
a while, kind of can see this from afar You
think this, Oh, is he just totally blindsided and the
girl got in his head and just just told him
of stuff that he even though his eyes told him
(31:14):
certain things that he did not, just didn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I think that's what happened, Rodney. Yeah, I think that's
exactly what happened. What's weird is a guy who is
accomplished and successful as he is. And listen, everybody, live
your life, if you're not hurting anybody, live your life.
But a guy that was at the very top.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Of the mountain.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, It's like, how the hell did this happen? Now,
he could turn around and say this, listen, don't talk
to me about happiness. I know my happiness, and I'm
in a really good place. And maybe he is, and
maybe regardless of how it appears, it's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Man.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
If you're on the outside looking in at this, yeah,
you're like, Bill, Jesus.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
What happened to Bill?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Why don't you sitting in North Carolina?
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Would? Yeah, Jordan Hudson in a basketball at a basketball school.
What you're doing?
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Don't you wait for Alabama to open up, or Texas
to open up, or A and M who's got tons
and tons of money to put into football program, Miami
Flory one of those. Don't you wait for that Notre
Dame to open up and you just go take it
over and start rolling your second half of your career.
He went to North Carolina, went the North Carolina no
(32:31):
offense to North Carolina football, but not really been in
the in the mix in terms of playoffs and national titles.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
That's one hundred years. That's really fair.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
You know another team is not quite in the mix
right now. Colorado, a former player now at Jacksonville Jaguar
Travis Hunter. Unfortunately, we got the news a little bit
earlier today that non contact injury he suffered. You got
the MRI. It's an LCL tair. He's out for the season.
Their number one draft pick, one of the most exciting players,
(33:04):
two way players in the game, and we only got
a glimpse of it this year. Jaguars luck.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
It's tough. Jaguars luck.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Just like they lost on Sunday when they're up nineteen
or whatever how many points they were up in the
fourth quarter and let that game get away from them.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
It's just it's certainly sad about Travis Hunting as a rookie.
You know, you know, you deal with so much Heisman Trophy,
so much hype with you, and you go to Jacksonville
and you know, yes they got Trevor Lawrence, but you
feel like nobody talks about Trevor Lawrence anymore. No, he
(33:42):
was the light thing, you know, from the freshman year
at at Clemson to being the number one pick in
the draft. And granted he's I think he's had what
three head coaches now and it's short stint in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Yeah, it's just it's unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
It's unfortunate, but man, Jacksonville just feels like a just
a Nowhere's land.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Isn't it?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
And you know what, some franchisers just can't get out
of their own way.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
That's who they are.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Yeah, there's another knee injury going around. You could probably
guess who this is dealing with or who's dealing with
this injury. It's not his right knee now for Joel Embiid,
it's leftnie. He's got leftnie's soreness. Like he's appeared in
six games so far this season and now he's out
(34:31):
for Tuesday nights game against Boston. He's got more knees
soreness going on. Two years ago, he was the MVP
and maybe the best player in the game. And Joel
Embiid looks like a shell of himself and it's only
getting worse.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
You know what's interesting about that, though, If you're an
NBA club, you just have to sign him, despite the
fact that he's going to be hurt.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
You really have no choice.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
You way overpay the guy because you have no choice.
You have to sign him. You can't let him go.
But then you have to deal with this. It's really
disappointed because he can't play. He's very talented, but you know,
if you're not available, that doesn't do you much good.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Trust the process. They're six and four vj edgecomb for them.
The rookie has been great this season, Tyres Max, he's
been amazing. They still haven't had Paul George play a game.
He's been seen practicing a little bit now. But with
Joel em beat out, I mean they needed everything to
align for things to work out for them. This season
doesn't look like it's happening.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Yeah, that that process, man, That process is taking a
long time, taking a long time, that process, man.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Trust Haley's comment.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
God Goo back doesn't be the tremendous talent, a big
man like that that can shoot and got form. And
it's just it's it's sad. And they had there was
a window, quick window for them, right. What do you
think you think if that ball doesn't bounce for Kyrie
in Toronto as a different trajectory for Philadelphia and Joel
(36:08):
elmbiid for Kawhi.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Yeah, that twenty nineteen team was stacked in phild They
had they remember they traded for Tobias Harris from the Clippers. Yep,
they had Jimmy Butler on that team. Ben Simmons hadn't
lost his confidence yet. They had JJ Reddick, they had Embiid,
they had everything. I still don't know how the Toronto
(36:31):
Raptors ended up winning that game. I mean, I know
the last shot, but how does it come to that point?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yeah? Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Hey, and it was somebody that follows basketball. Ben Simmons
one of the great busts in NBA history.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
I think it's fair to say. And it's not even
so much physical. It was the mental with him once
he missed that shot against Atlanta and Doc Rivers kind
of threw him under the bus afterwards when they asked him,
is here starting point guard?
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Moving forward?
Speaker 5 (37:01):
Is he good enough? He never was able to regain
his confidence. Like I know, he had some back injury stuff,
that's that's real, but it looked like it was between
the ears with him. He was afraid to shoot the ball.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Yeah, and that's scary. He's six' ten and it was basically, ambidextrous,
right you, go.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Both both, hands great, defender.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Great, defender six,' ten playing, point guard handles and afraid.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
To shoot, not afraid not afraid to. Shoot threes but
afraid to.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Shoot period you know somebody who is on. THIS station
i think a little bit. Before you guys once said
back in like, Twenty Sixteen, Hey Lebron, hey lebron. We're good.
We're good we don't need. You Anymore ben simmons. Is
here we don't. Need You ben simmons is carrying.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
The, league now. Don't worry no one ever. Said, that,
yeah oh no one ever. Said, that fred don't make
me pull. THOSE receipts i don't want to get. Fired today.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
It wasn't You, the senate.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Everybody Else's ben simmons is here. To. Stay lebron. We're
good We Got. Ben, Simmons now oh, my God where colin?
Speaker 5 (38:20):
Was wrong and that's, it's, lit guys.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
ALL right i couldn't let it go. At him you couldn't.
DO it i can't. Help myself, Let's, go katie.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
And we'll be back to wrap this up in. A, minute.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Yeah, Come on rodney Feet fed rogan On. A tuesday
i want to call it A. Throwback Tuesday, but katie
you've been bringing the, Music. Today katie it's very.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Very good is that is that?
Speaker 1 (38:57):
All? You?
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Katie, yeah katie what do you know about. Low, rider
huh what do you know, About?
Speaker 2 (39:05):
War?
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Katie thing it's good?
Speaker 3 (39:09):
For.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Nothing katie YOU know i Grew up.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
My dad didn't let us pick our own radio stations
growing up in the.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Cars, though okay so you all. The things LET'S yet i.
Like it what would you, Have? PICKED katie i mean.
Speaker 6 (39:28):
As a, little kid Probably Like? Backstreet boys?
Speaker 5 (39:32):
All right, oh okay have you seen him with? The,
spear no they're really?
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Cheap, tickets YEAH but i heard its. AWESOME though i heard.
They were they were great. In concert That's. The Sphere Remember.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Luca daunts went there right after he signed his new
contractors sent With.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
The, lakers well the tickets were. ON sale, i mean,
you know they weren't. Really expensive so of course he's.
Gonna go it's available. To him i've not been.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
There yet have you? BEEN there i have not been
to a concert At.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
The, sphere no but everybody THAT goes i haven't heard
one bad thing.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
About It James, Dolan oulgent yes there's one.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Bad, thing well it's good For the knicks because he
had all his attention was on his sphere for two
and a.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Half years so they got To The eastern.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
Conference finals they credited him for you Get.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
The, spear yes now he's back. And everything what? The hell, All?
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Right katie thank you, for today, great work a lot.
Of fun are you here, Tomorrow too katie?
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Or?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
No Yes, okay katie we'll be. Back tomorrow, Bolt up
katie and we'll get another charger Update. From, katie adam
thanks for sitting In. For, Kevin, hey lebron.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
We're Good ben simmons. Is here, We're.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Good adam your, shows wait your show is still on every,
You know, friday night, not Now but, saturday Morning late
friday night F.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
And A on fsr starting.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
At eleven got to give you a shout out.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
At him you guys are. Killing it great JOB at
Speaker 4 (40:59):
M said, not now, not, Anymore, alright rodney see tomorrow
right on
Diard.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Let's continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on a five
seventy LA Sports later this hour. What has happened since
we've been on the air. All kinds of things have
been going on, and you probably haven't been kept up
today on a lot of them. So we will do
that with What's It's Lit? And that'll be coming up
a little bit later on in the hour. But now
let's continue on and bring on our good friend Vinnie
(00:23):
bond signor our NFL insider and quality human being, Benny.
I'd like to start with this. I think it was
either Saturday or Sunday morning. Are you there, Vinnie?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yes, I am.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Okay, Saturday or Sunday morning. My phone rang very early.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Do you remember this?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yes? I do.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
And I thought, my god, if Minnie is calling me
this early, this has got to be something major, I
swear to god.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I thought, oh my god, I felt so bad. I
felt so bad. I didn't care because why else would
I call you that early in the morning? Right right?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
So I'm thinking, oh my god, Vinnie, what is it?
And then I get this sorry like leg dial or something.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I thought, he do what? Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I thought you're gonna tell me a story. Was this right?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
But no, I know I felt horrible because I figured,
you know, when when you get a call that early,
it's something important, and sometimes it's not even good news.
To be honest with you, we all know that I
do it. Yeah, exactly, it can't be good. So I
had to immediately, I got I got to let him
know that that was not you know, and I felt
bad that I probably woke you up all that. So, so, yeah,
(01:25):
I don't sleep.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I'm like a vampire. I never sleep.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
That he can call me any time, I'll answer immediately.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Hello.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
All right. By the way, I'm very impressed. I'm very
impressed that you that you know what the term lit means,
like I hope you do anyway with your segment, that
you know that you know that terminology. That's that's really good.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I'm impressed.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Seriously, Vinnie, seriously, you.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Know you got young kids. Thank god he's got young kids. Yeah,
that's true.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Hey, Vinny, what's a whip?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
You know what a whip is? You got?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I mean, I do know what a whip is, but
I guarantee you I'm not using it correctly in terms
of this conversation. So no, I don't. I don't believe.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I know fred Fred is going he went to the
string lingo, I think, Benny. So, yeah, you're definition. A
whip doesn't mean what they talk about when it comes
to baseball.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Okay, not that right, Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
One time, Vinnie I did a show called Whip Maddick.
Now what is a whip? And then I'll tell you
the slogan of the show.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Okay, A whip is something that you whip somebody with, right,
I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
NNN Street. Craig goes down.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Now, Vinnie, it's a car car with not a car whip?
Were the cars are the stars?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
You see?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I know, I know terms, I.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Know li whip.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I just walked right into it.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
What am I doing right now?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I know?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
I know?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I know?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
My bad, my bad?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
All right? Get me listen.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So Dolphins coach Mike McDaniel was in his whip and
driving a rock to a bar, trolling bills fans.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Do you believe that?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yes or no?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Normally I would say no, but no on Mike, I
would say absolutely yes, without without without question. He's he's
an interesting dude without with you know, no question about it.
One of the more I mean, I would love to
be a reporter covering a team that he coaches, just
for the just for the press conferences, and just how
he is and how he handles it, handles things. So
(03:43):
I'm gonna say, yes that that was not Ai, that
was actually him trolling Buffalo Bills fans.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
God, you bought it, okay, right, he still don't buy it.
You don't buy it with him. I didn't want to
buy it.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I guess I gotta buy it now, Rodney, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I think I don't know if thirty one other coaches,
you probably wouldn't buy it. I don't know who other
than him who would actually drive by a bar that
the Buffalo fans hang out in and troll them. I mean,
if you put a poll together and you put faces
(04:22):
up there of coaches, I don't think you'd look at
thirty one other other teams and coaches and go, nah,
he wouldn't do it, now, mc theay, no, Shanahan, no,
you know, Andy absolutely.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Not no no no no.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
No, no no no, no, Rabel no no. And it
would go through the list and then it would come
to McDaniel and go.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Maybe exactly he would Yeah, And I'm hoping it was
him I think that's I think it's all right. I
don't mind that. I mean, he hasn't had much too
glote about this year, without question. So in the one
where you know he's he's he's earned himself a little
(05:05):
bit of a time to be able to stick it
to somebody. Why not, it's all it's all as fun.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah anything.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
He probably knows he's not going to be there next
year anyway, so it's like, hey, let me have my fun.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Exactly who knows he ends up the office of coordinator
of the Buffalo Bills. They may need a new office
of coordinator the way things are going up.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
There, all right, ask you this?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Uh yeah, Belichick, Okay, I would say not exactly. An
auspicious debut season at North Carolina, the Giants job is
open now, he says he's not. He's focused on Wake
four as sure he is, But uh, can you see
him jumping back into the NFL?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I could see it. But there's no way if I'm
the New York Giants, I'm going down that road.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
None.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I've got a I've got a bright, young potential star
in Jackson Dart. I want a defensive mindned coach that's
going to take this quarterback and run with it, you know.
And I don't want to reach back into my past.
I know Bill Belichick was great with the New York
Giants as their defensive coordinator back in the day. But
(06:14):
I want someone in to connect with my young quarterback
because that's the most important position that he's got to
connect with, and I'm not so sure that that would
be Bill Belichick. I wouldn't do it, but you know,
you're never surprised anymore with some of the moves that
owners make. And I could see it from the Giants perspective,
like I said, reaching back into their past bringing in
(06:36):
an all time great NFL coach. But I wouldn't do it.
I absolutely would not do that at all.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
The only way that happens is and wouldn't happen because
Belichick's not going to give that up, is that they
would have to hire him with the stipulation of we
are also going to hire the offensive coordinator and the
defensive coordinator or whoever, but especially.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Offense because they allow him.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
He'll, you know, bring in his sons and bring in
his family and whoever else, and and try to tell
him what to do. I just I don't know if that.
I get the idea, and it's exciting when you first
think about it. Then you think about all the baggage
that he brought to Carolina. Yeah, you're like, I don't
(07:21):
know if we we don't need that at the Giants
with a young, up and coming face of the franchise quarterback,
do we need to bring all that to him?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Can you imagine that the tabloids running with that story
that whole you just in New York? Yeah, exactly the
guy that I think. I mean, I don't know that
Lane wants to leave college at this point, but I
would imagine Lane Kiffin has some monthish business. Uh, you know,
in the NFL it didn't it didn't go well with
the Raiders obviously, but he's grown. I've talked to a
(07:50):
lot of people that you know that that that that
no Lane, and how much he's matured and grown up
since that we've kind of seen it. I mean, there's
still a few episodes every once in a while where
the crazy Lane you know, says something on social media
or is captured doing something talking smack to a player
from another team, you know, but but by and large,
he's really matured and grown up. And I would love
(08:12):
to see Lane Kipson get another chance in the NFL,
and why not with his former you know all miss
quarterback Jackson Dart. I think that would be a pretty
interesting thing in New York. And I think he would
be great in New York. By the way, you.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Do you think Wayne Kevin would be good.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
In New York as one thousand percent the way things
have changed now and social media and and that whole
side of it. And plus he's a really good coach,
a very good offensive minded coach, and so yeah, I
actually think that would be a really good idea. I
think his personality that's what the Giants need too. You know,
they've kind of stumbled around the last you know what
(08:50):
decade or so, it's not really been good for for
a while. Now. There's nothing wrong to me about having
some electricity from your quarterback to your head coach and personalities, uh,
and maybe going against the grain and in some ways
and bringing some of his as to the New York Giants.
I think it would be great.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Yeah, And I think that's why, you know, a lot
of people are linking him to Miami too, with the
tou of connection and and then also you know, Lincoln
dable down there to UH to Miami. But yeah, I don't.
I just at this point, if I'm Lane, it has
to be an unbelievable deal because he is the king
of the castle in Oxford, Mississippi with the with old
(09:31):
miss He can write his own ticket. He can do
whatever he wants because he's he's made them a consistent winner,
right and and so he can do whatever he wants.
But I think part of that is right with a
lot of coaches is that they feel like if they've
had a taste of the NFL, they want to do
it at the highest level. And there's some unfinished business
(09:54):
with Lane in the NFL, Like people don't believe he's
he can succeed at the NFL level.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
That might be driving him to get back there.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
So we'll see, yeah, right, And if it doesn't work
in New York, he could he can always fall back
to college. There will always be a landing spot for
Lane Kippen in college football. I think everyone understands there's
a there's a good fit there and somebody that recruits
connect with. I mean the job that he's done at
at ole Myth to bring in the type of talent
that they've brought into, like you say, be as relevant
(10:24):
as they have for the last few years, and now
they're a top ten team and they're headed to the playoffs,
and who knows what could happen. You know, from that
point on, he'll always be able to fall back to college.
The one thing that I if he's going to say
no to the hundreds of million, you know, I'm sure
LSU has an offer on the table to him if
in Florida as well, that exceeds one hundred million dollars.
(10:45):
Nobody's going to pay him that in the NFL. So
if that's what's kind of kind of driving him, which
I'm not saying that it is, but you know, if
he's going to say no to jobs that are paying
him that kind of money, what would be the incentive
to go to the NFL. Other than it's a it's
a mountain that he wants to that he wants to climb,
and there's a lot to be said about that as well.
The motivation to go out to go to the next
(11:06):
level of the highest level and succeed, I think would
drive somebody like a Lake Hi.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I'm looking up a salary right now at Old Miss
because he's got to be getting paid pretty well. Right now,
he's making nine million a year, a base of nine
million a year, not including bonuses.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yeah, one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
That's nothing. I mean, that's like a million dollars a
year more.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Right right, Yeah, absolutely, And unless it's.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Over, unless it's a five year deal for one hundred million,
that's a different conversation.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
That would be a different conversation.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
So economics and finances are going to come into it.
But I mean, he's he's made a lot of money,
and you know, I just wonder, you know, if what
the allure it would be for him in the NFL.
I got to imagine that it's a it's an age
that he'd be eager to scratch at some point. And
and this is just a perfect situation with his former
quarterback there you know that that that I think this
(12:04):
is one that might raise his eyebrows a little bit.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Yeah, Yeah, I just you know, there's that you never
know what's going through. Some some guys are just you know,
I think satisfied or feel comfortable where they are. I
think there's some certain guys that have have a fired
like I think sark Is gonna wants to be at
Texas forever. I don't know if he wants to even
go go to the NFL. I think he found the
place where he can thrive and make a ton of
(12:31):
much more money at Texas than any place in the NFL.
But you know, who knows who knows what? What drives everyone?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Vinnie.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
We tossed this around earlier, uh and the you know,
I think yesterday we talked about it with Eric Dickerson,
Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Is he the MVP of the league right now?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I think so? And he played just a spectacular game
on Sunday against Border nine. Then it was great to
see Karen Williams kind of bound from his game as well.
But yes, I mean at this point, uh, I mean
at his highest levels that he's ever played at. He's
(13:11):
you take him off the Rams, and the Rams are
a very good football team, don't get me wrong, but
that that makes a huge difference. So where they there's
there's there's still eight weeks, eight games or so for
him to to really solify himself. But the way he's
playing shocked wasn't in the It wasn't in the UH station.
Come the end of the season, I hope people are
recognizing what the Rams are are are that's a football team. Uh,
(13:36):
And they took the Niners a little bit to the woodshed.
On Sunday. Sean McVay was in his bag DeVante Adams
still showing people how good he is, you know, even
at this age. Cook and the coop, the defense. It's
a really good football team. And and when your quarterback
is playing at that high level and you're winning, that
quarterback is always going to be in the MVP consideration.
(13:57):
And I think that it's crazy to me, though, did
you guys read this that he's now five hundred for
the first time in his career as a starting NFL
quarterback is his record? That's how much that's right?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
All right, Wow, Benny, thanks for coming on. Good infoes.
Always appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, every year since he's been with the Rams, So
it's taken him that long just to get to five
hundred for his career record as a starting quarterback. And
that's that's what sometimes playing for the Lions not anymore, thankfully,
but but those years were really really put a dent
in his record.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
All right, interesting stat. Thanks, Vinny appreciated Vinnie.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
All right, all right, have a good one.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Guys kept going.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
He became Vic.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Benny was Vic. He had phone issues, been kind of
broke up. We said, okay, thanks, Benny kept going.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
He's big. All right.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
When we come back, let's get you caught up on
everything with its lip.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Oh yeah, come on, we.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Keep it moving on a Tuesday, Rodney Pete Fred Rogan
just makes you feel good when you hear something like this.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Right, yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
We should say Katie's in for Ronnie today. Rodney, Katie
is in for Ronnie? Can't he putting their own spin
on our musical interludes? As I would say, do you
have anything to say about the Chargers today before we
go forward?
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Bolt up? Okay, thank you for that. I mean, you
know I shared my thoughts yesterday.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Well I understand, but it's a new day and maybe
we need and.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
I'm still right in the high I needed that much
of a decisive.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Win, you know, I just don't I think you ought
to be more effusive when you go bolt up. I
mean you should be a little more strong. Okay, that
was a little much. You don't have to be quite
that much.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You gotta be in the middle.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Middle.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Whatever happened to bolt Man, Fred and Katie bolt Man.
We had Boatman on the show one time, Runny.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Didn't they take his head away from him one time?
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
They took his head? Yeah? What happened to bolt Man, Katie?
Speaker 6 (16:13):
I think that when we moved he decided not to
come up. There were a lot of fans that were
very unhappy.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Oh, and I think he sold it.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Actually you could take our Chargers, but not our bolt Man.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
I think he like sold the whole get up. And
then I don't know. He maybe was one of the
games when they moved to La at Homeome, they.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Didn't let him in the sofa.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Oh that I'd see. I thought they took his head
away at Home Depot.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
Yeah. I think that he made it to like one
or two of the games there.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
And then where do you think his head is now?
Speaker 6 (16:50):
It's like Indiana Jones and it's just like in a
big warehouse of.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I think that's sad that Boltman lost his head. They
wouldn't let him in. I do if anybody knows we're Boltman,
his calls, I'd like to hear from the bolt Man.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
It's out there where those have you seen this Boltman?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Right?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
You know the number A six six ninety seven two
five seventy. If anybody has seen the real, the real
Boltman calls in, Yeah, what's his name?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Like Billy Pinkis? What's his name?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
How did you pick out Billy Pinks just out of
the blue? Do you must know that's his name or
you just you pulled that name out of a hat.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I went to school with Billy Pinkers, I know, But
how do you pull his name for Boltman? I don't know.
I just ran up.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
They picked out a guy that you went to school
with and said, Boltman is Billy Pinks.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I just thought, you know, maybe that would be a
guy that would dress up like Boltman.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yeap oh, that's like, yeah, I'm gonna say, Chris Suku.
He he's the guy that won testicle in college. That's
my man, I mean in high school. What was his
name again, Chris, Chris Suku. Yes, he's a you're right,
he's a guy one testicle.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
One testicle. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Now because of that, was he slower than the other
guys or faster because he wasn't carrying as much weight.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
I think it it allowed I don't know what his
specific skills were, but I think it was It was
certainly like a you know, as a if you're a
blind person that they your other senses are in are heightened.
If you're deaf, your other senses are heightened. Sure, so
I think if you have one testicle, other senses are heightened.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
All brains, one ball.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, wow, what I was gonna say. I hope Chris.
Chris doesn't live in l A.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
But now you can see and he listened to us
all on the iHeart app so he can be anywhere
listening to the show.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, maybe he should call talk about it. Yes, yes,
Chris Cuku Chris, certainly he made himself.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
I just I still to this day wonder how that
really got out there, because I'm sure if like, if
you have one testicle, right, let's say you're not telling
anybody about it, right, you don't raise your hand.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
You know, no, you don't raise your hand. You don't
talk about it. You know, you don't have the balls. Wow, wow, Jesus.
Although that wasn't bad. That was good. Actually, that wasn't
that that that was good.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
But you know, you get to a certain age as
you grow up and then you know your your your
pe activities intensify and you start playing sports and whatever.
And then then you start to shower. You don't shower
with with guys in elementary school. It's not until you
get to really to like what middle school, junior high,
playing sports or pe gets very active, you start taking
(20:00):
showers before you go back to class.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Right, And that's when it started.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
That's when everybody found out there was a stare in
the in the boys locker room, right, And that's what happened,
started the rumor because I doubt Chris would have, you know,
volunteered that information.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
No, I don't think he'd raise his hand. It's like
you knew a guy with one testicle. I knew a
guy with one eye. You know it happens, Adam, What
what physical malady have you suffered?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Well? What should we know about you?
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Mine's all mental? Just listening to you, Fred.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
So, okay, that's fine, Katie. How about you, Katie?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Anything Katie than any other?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
What?
Speaker 6 (20:41):
No? I broke my elbow in kindergarten jumping off the
monkey bars, and then no kindergarteners were allowed on the
monkey bars after that.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Really, really, you created a mandate?
Speaker 6 (20:49):
I guess so.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Did it hurt?
Speaker 6 (20:53):
I don't know. I was five. I remember I was
upset because it was before my sixth birthday and we
were supposed to go bowling and I couldn't because I
was in a cat.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
There was oh sure.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
Traumatic, long lasting trauma.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Right handed and left handed, Katie?
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Are you I'm right handed and it was my left elbow,
but they.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Said no bowl. You still couldn't bowl even though you're
right handed and you broke your left I.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Mean I was also turning six. I mean at that point,
you got the you know, bumpers up and they've got
that little like bowling ball ramp thing.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I don't know what do you mean they have the
bumpers up when you're turning six? I still use them?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Are you not supposed to?
Speaker 6 (21:32):
What makes it fun for you?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Right?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
You know, back then, when you play, you play multiple sports,
you play all We have a basketball coach who you know,
all the coaches like they were, had priority. They wanted
you to play their sport only. But back then everybody
played every sport, and so the basketball coach when somebody
hurt their dominant hand, I was very happy about it
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because then all you could do is work on your
non dominant hand. Like if you're right hand you were
dribbling left handed, and he made you work. Even with
a cast on your right hand, It'll make you work
on your left hand. And uh, I remember my freshman year,
I broke my right wrist in the last game of
the football season, and I was getting ready to play
(22:17):
basketball and I couldn't start, you know, practices with everyone.
But I couldn't. I couldn't believe how my basketball coach
was so excited because all I could do is everything
with my left hand. There it became better at my
left hand dribbling. See, that's how over aligning. That's how
it was in the old days.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I mean when I went to high school, every year
the coach would pick out one guy who was right
handed and hit him in the hand with a hammer.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Time.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
So you get better with your left hand, you gotta
get better with your left hand.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Come on, let me break that bad boy, right. That's
how they do. Wait. Wait, Katie, Katie, they really wouldn't
let your bowl?
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Was it your parents or was it the teacher who
was it didn't didn't let you bowl?
Speaker 6 (23:04):
I think my parents changed the birthday party. Maybe they
just I don't know. I also was probably pretty reckless
and would have been just like I'm beat. I'm fine,
let's run down.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Okay, good idea. You weren't out there right?
Speaker 6 (23:19):
Who knows that? Broken my other arm too?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, go sliding down the lane. I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Let me let me say this. If you bowl, I mean,
you know, and how many of us are Johnny Pattaglia
or Nelson Burton junior back in the day.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Here's a tip.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
If you go past that line, and you could ask Mookie,
I mean, Mookie and I could talk for hours about bulling.
But if you go across that line, it's very slippery.
I don't know if you realize that, Rodney, Ye, go
past that line. That's pretty slid is.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yes, it is. It's like they wax it. Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
They wax it past the line because you know, a
lot of a lot of footfaulting going on.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Fred, Yes, that's true, Adam, you good bowler.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
No, Fred, I'm not. But I enjoyed the big Lebowski.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
The dude.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Let's go, Brenna say, Kingpin you were You are more
of a Kingpin fan than big lebask I can.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Get with that bigger and McCracken, Yeah, big Ern the
bowling ball with glass with a rose on the inside.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yes, nobody like big Ern. Big Ern used to bring it.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
All right, whoever can answer this before we get it's
what going? Whoever can answer this will win a prize
and Katie you can play too. Okay, here's the question.
Can you tell me what the show Pinpoint was about?
Go ahead, anybody? What was it about bowling?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Well? Okay, but what were the rule Let's try it yet?
You everybody?
Speaker 5 (24:50):
That prize closet?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Yeah, even specified you just said, and Katie won it.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
But what made Pinpoint different that show? What was it? Yes,
it was about bowling, but what made it different?
Speaker 6 (25:08):
Was it candlestick bowling?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Okay, it was not candlestick bowling? Adam, would you like
to try? Uh?
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Were you playing with like a little rubber ball with
pins out there? I don't know, Freddy, No.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
It was not that as I'm sure it was a show.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Was a bad guest? I have a movie or a show?
It was a show. It was on CBS called Pinpoint? Pinpoint?
Speaker 6 (25:30):
What year was this on television?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Nine?
Speaker 5 (25:34):
It was no television.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
There was no television. We just imagined it in our mind.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
All at the same time, never heard a Pinpoint, never
heard a pinpoint.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Okay, here was a pin point.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
You know there was a time where bowling was really
big on TV. By the way, yes, that would be
every weekend. And Chick Curn used to do bowling for dollars.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Here that's the guy, Chrince, Chris, Chris Shinkle, Chris Finkle
was a big bowling guy.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I remember that.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
He's the PBA, the voice of the PB. Here was pinpoint.
You know how you try to knock ten pins down,
You got to strike or you gotta spare whatever. In pinpoint,
you would do it the opposite way. So in the
first frame you would knock one down, in the second
frame you would knock two down.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Was it a game show?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Well, it wasn't a game show, but it was like
this bowling show. But you did it competition bowling. It's
like nine ball, like nine ball and pool.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Yeah yeah, okay, right, bring it back, Fred, that'll be hot,
hotter than corn hole, all.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Right, Adam, let's go roll it Katie.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
All right, guys, Well, the Dallas Mavericks finally lit the
seat of Nico Harrison's on fire, and everyone's still reeling
and talking about this. In fact, we've been asking was
he just the fall guy the ownership group. Well, Seam
Sharania was on with steven A and answered that question earlier, Katie.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
Stephen A, it was Nico Harrison. It was Nico Harrison's decision,
It was Nico Harrison's pitch. It was Nico Harrison's idea
to trade Luka Dancic. But of course, any move that
gets made stephen A, you know, if a general manager
at any level is making a trade, it is with
the blessing and the sign off of ownership as well. Now,
it might have taken Nico Harrison days weeks to get
(27:28):
Patrick Dumont on board, But after the Mavericks made it
to the NBA Finals in twenty twenty four, I'm told
that's when the Patrick Dumont Nico Harrison relationship that was
the strongest it's ever been. That's when Patrick Dumont, what
I'm told, he looked at Nico Harrison as a basketball savant,
as someone that when Nico Harrison speaks, when he has
(27:49):
an idea, it's basketball gospel. And so when Nico Harrison
came to Patrick Dumont with that concept, there was alignment there. Eventually,
there was alignment within the office alignment with the coach.
And that's when you see this this transaction take place.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
When Niko Rrison speaks, it's basketball gospel no longer. Maybe
a little bit of inside there, hmm. I'm still just
wanting to pile on because I'm upset that the Clippers
couldn't have fleeced him instead of the Lakers. So we
were the ones who wanted Luca ad them.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Worst part of this, all right, he made a move.
It was a terrible move. All right, we got that.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
But the worst part is historically Fred historically bad.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah. Fair.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
The worst part is he didn't call anyone else. That's
what's bad about this. All Right, we're gonna make a
tough decision. We're gonna have to move him. We don't
want to do what we have to. It's best for us.
Let's make some phone calls. Not let's make one call
and the guy answers and it's done.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
That was the mistake, you know why, because he had
his mind set on Anthony Davis, the one guy out
there that was infatuated with a center who wants to
be a power forward, who's entered half the season, Nico
Harrison's favorite player.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Those are hard to come by.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Yeah, can't find those and you know from my world,
just finding and they're out there. And in all sports,
those guys that are become general managers become power hungry
and think they're bigger than the club or bigger than
the players. Actually when it's a player driven league. All
leagues now are player driven. He used to be where
(29:30):
even the NFL, who's the last bastion of the shield
matters more than the players. It's turned into a player
driven league. NBA has been there for years. And to
think that you're a general manager, that you're bigger than
the player, he just it just goes to show that
you're not a.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
Little bit hubris. Speaking of you guys were talking about
Lane Kiffin going back to the NFL. Well, now people
are asking what the job being open with the New
York Giants, if Bill Belichick would go back. He was
asked about that a little bit earlier, and in classic
Bill Belichick form, he said, quote getting ready for wake Forest,
(30:07):
That's all I got this week?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Is he still dating nut girl?
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Jordan Hudson.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, dating.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
I don't know why I listened to you just now.
You sound like one of my uncles. He's still dating
that girl. He still he's still dating that bad girl,
that girl that nobody likes. He's still dating that girl,
like one of my uncles.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Listen, the only thing interesting about Bill Belichick now is
him dating that girl. That's it.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
It ain't North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
No, it's not. It's not.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
And you know, we probably to a degree, nuked himself too,
going back to the NFL.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
And because it was going to be a disaster.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
You know, all of his sports and football acumen and smarts,
and you know how you can see things from a
mile away if you're you know, been in it for
a while, kind of can see this from afar You
think this, Oh, is he just totally blindsided and the
girl got in his head and just just told him
of stuff that he even though his eyes told him
(31:14):
certain things that he did not, just didn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I think that's what happened, Rodney. Yeah, I think that's
exactly what happened. What's weird is a guy who is
accomplished and successful as he is. And listen, everybody, live
your life, if you're not hurting anybody, live your life.
But a guy that was at the very top.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Of the mountain.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, It's like, how the hell did this happen? Now,
he could turn around and say this, listen, don't talk
to me about happiness. I know my happiness, and I'm
in a really good place. And maybe he is, and
maybe regardless of how it appears, it's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Man.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
If you're on the outside looking in at this, yeah,
you're like, Bill, Jesus.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
What happened to Bill?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Why don't you sitting in North Carolina?
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Would? Yeah, Jordan Hudson in a basketball at a basketball school.
What you're doing?
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Don't you wait for Alabama to open up, or Texas
to open up, or A and M who's got tons
and tons of money to put into football program, Miami
Flory one of those. Don't you wait for that Notre
Dame to open up and you just go take it
over and start rolling your second half of your career.
He went to North Carolina, went the North Carolina no
(32:31):
offense to North Carolina football, but not really been in
the in the mix in terms of playoffs and national titles.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
That's one hundred years. That's really fair.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
You know another team is not quite in the mix
right now. Colorado, a former player now at Jacksonville Jaguar
Travis Hunter. Unfortunately, we got the news a little bit
earlier today that non contact injury he suffered. You got
the MRI. It's an LCL tair. He's out for the season.
Their number one draft pick, one of the most exciting players,
(33:04):
two way players in the game, and we only got
a glimpse of it this year. Jaguars luck.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
It's tough. Jaguars luck.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Just like they lost on Sunday when they're up nineteen
or whatever how many points they were up in the
fourth quarter and let that game get away from them.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
It's just it's certainly sad about Travis Hunting as a rookie.
You know, you know, you deal with so much Heisman Trophy,
so much hype with you, and you go to Jacksonville
and you know, yes they got Trevor Lawrence, but you
feel like nobody talks about Trevor Lawrence anymore. No, he
(33:42):
was the light thing, you know, from the freshman year
at at Clemson to being the number one pick in
the draft. And granted he's I think he's had what
three head coaches now and it's short stint in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Yeah, it's just it's unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
It's unfortunate, but man, Jacksonville just feels like a just
a Nowhere's land.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Isn't it?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
And you know what, some franchisers just can't get out
of their own way.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
That's who they are.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Yeah, there's another knee injury going around. You could probably
guess who this is dealing with or who's dealing with
this injury. It's not his right knee now for Joel Embiid,
it's leftnie. He's got leftnie's soreness. Like he's appeared in
six games so far this season and now he's out
(34:31):
for Tuesday nights game against Boston. He's got more knees
soreness going on. Two years ago, he was the MVP
and maybe the best player in the game. And Joel
Embiid looks like a shell of himself and it's only
getting worse.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
You know what's interesting about that, though, If you're an
NBA club, you just have to sign him, despite the
fact that he's going to be hurt.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
You really have no choice.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
You way overpay the guy because you have no choice.
You have to sign him. You can't let him go.
But then you have to deal with this. It's really
disappointed because he can't play. He's very talented, but you know,
if you're not available, that doesn't do you much good.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Trust the process. They're six and four vj edgecomb for them.
The rookie has been great this season, Tyres Max, he's
been amazing. They still haven't had Paul George play a game.
He's been seen practicing a little bit now. But with
Joel em beat out, I mean they needed everything to
align for things to work out for them. This season
doesn't look like it's happening.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Yeah, that that process, man, That process is taking a
long time, taking a long time, that process, man.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Trust Haley's comment.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
God Goo back doesn't be the tremendous talent, a big
man like that that can shoot and got form. And
it's just it's it's sad. And they had there was
a window, quick window for them, right. What do you
think you think if that ball doesn't bounce for Kyrie
in Toronto as a different trajectory for Philadelphia and Joel
(36:08):
elmbiid for Kawhi.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Yeah, that twenty nineteen team was stacked in phild They
had they remember they traded for Tobias Harris from the Clippers. Yep,
they had Jimmy Butler on that team. Ben Simmons hadn't
lost his confidence yet. They had JJ Reddick, they had Embiid,
they had everything. I still don't know how the Toronto
(36:31):
Raptors ended up winning that game. I mean, I know
the last shot, but how does it come to that point?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yeah? Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Hey, and it was somebody that follows basketball. Ben Simmons
one of the great busts in NBA history.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
I think it's fair to say. And it's not even
so much physical. It was the mental with him once
he missed that shot against Atlanta and Doc Rivers kind
of threw him under the bus afterwards when they asked him,
is here starting point guard?
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Moving forward?
Speaker 5 (37:01):
Is he good enough? He never was able to regain
his confidence. Like I know, he had some back injury stuff,
that's that's real, but it looked like it was between
the ears with him. He was afraid to shoot the ball.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Yeah, and that's scary. He's six' ten and it was basically, ambidextrous,
right you, go.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Both both, hands great, defender.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Great, defender six,' ten playing, point guard handles and afraid.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
To shoot, not afraid not afraid to. Shoot threes but
afraid to.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Shoot period you know somebody who is on. THIS station
i think a little bit. Before you guys once said
back in like, Twenty Sixteen, Hey Lebron, hey lebron. We're good.
We're good we don't need. You Anymore ben simmons. Is
here we don't. Need You ben simmons is carrying.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
The, league now. Don't worry no one ever. Said, that,
yeah oh no one ever. Said, that fred don't make
me pull. THOSE receipts i don't want to get. Fired today.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
It wasn't You, the senate.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Everybody Else's ben simmons is here. To. Stay lebron. We're
good We Got. Ben, Simmons now oh, my God where colin?
Speaker 5 (38:20):
Was wrong and that's, it's, lit guys.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
ALL right i couldn't let it go. At him you couldn't.
DO it i can't. Help myself, Let's, go katie.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
And we'll be back to wrap this up in. A, minute.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Yeah, Come on rodney Feet fed rogan On. A tuesday
i want to call it A. Throwback Tuesday, but katie
you've been bringing the, Music. Today katie it's very.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Very good is that is that?
Speaker 1 (38:57):
All? You?
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Katie, yeah katie what do you know about. Low, rider
huh what do you know, About?
Speaker 2 (39:05):
War?
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Katie thing it's good?
Speaker 3 (39:09):
For.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Nothing katie YOU know i Grew up.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
My dad didn't let us pick our own radio stations
growing up in the.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Cars, though okay so you all. The things LET'S yet i.
Like it what would you, Have? PICKED katie i mean.
Speaker 6 (39:28):
As a, little kid Probably Like? Backstreet boys?
Speaker 5 (39:32):
All right, oh okay have you seen him with? The,
spear no they're really?
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Cheap, tickets YEAH but i heard its. AWESOME though i heard.
They were they were great. In concert That's. The Sphere Remember.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Luca daunts went there right after he signed his new
contractors sent With.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
The, lakers well the tickets were. ON sale, i mean,
you know they weren't. Really expensive so of course he's.
Gonna go it's available. To him i've not been.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
There yet have you? BEEN there i have not been
to a concert At.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
The, sphere no but everybody THAT goes i haven't heard
one bad thing.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
About It James, Dolan oulgent yes there's one.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Bad, thing well it's good For the knicks because he
had all his attention was on his sphere for two
and a.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Half years so they got To The eastern.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
Conference finals they credited him for you Get.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
The, spear yes now he's back. And everything what? The hell, All?
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Right katie thank you, for today, great work a lot.
Of fun are you here, Tomorrow too katie?
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Or?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
No Yes, okay katie we'll be. Back tomorrow, Bolt up
katie and we'll get another charger Update. From, katie adam
thanks for sitting In. For, Kevin, hey lebron.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
We're Good ben simmons. Is here, We're.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Good adam your, shows wait your show is still on every,
You know, friday night, not Now but, saturday Morning late
friday night F.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
And A on fsr starting.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
At eleven got to give you a shout out.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
At him you guys are. Killing it great JOB at
Speaker 4 (40:59):
M said, not now, not, Anymore, alright rodney see tomorrow
right on
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