November 13, 2025 • 52 mins
The guys talk about a new study that finds many parents feel that their kid will be a superstar pro athlete. We talk about the highest paid players at each position in MLB - and the Dodgers dont have any of them.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, here we go a two hour show. Fred
Rogan Rodney Peete on La Sports. Rodney, How you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm doing good, Fred, I'm doing good. How are you?
How are you? I'm just watching. Any time I flip on, Fred,
I just flip on to see what's going on in
the world of sports and different channels in the world
of life as well. They're playing a Dodger game. MLB
is still playing Dodger games. They're playing the Dodgers versus
the Milwaukee Brewers series right now. I can't get enough.
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Ain't get enough. Joe Az just hit one out of
the stadium. Does that surprise? What's happening?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Look, if you're a Dodger fan, let's be honest. My
wife was a foreman's last night on riverside. She was
telling me about it. Sitting down at the table, she
and her girlfriends. Some guys are sitting next to her.
You know what, they're talking about? The Dodgers. Yeah, they're
talking about the Dodgers. These six guys are sitting there
talking about the Dodgers. Got into the conversation. She schooled
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them a little bit. I'll tell you that she schooled them.
But everybody is still talking about the Dodgers, and by
the way, later in the show we're going to talk
about the Dodgers as well. Here is something we talked about.
So if you have kids, maybe you're experiencing this. And
if you don't have kids, guess what, at one time
you were a kid. Oh yeah, at one time you
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were a kid. So I think we can all relate
to this.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Unless you're a cloned and you were born at six
years old.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
So I don't think we need to get into the
cloning conversation again. Sure, yeah, because I didn't understand if
you were cloned. It was Tom Brady's dog, and I thought,
what if you cloned a human being? So I thought
Tom Brady cloned his dog and then there was another
dog the exact same size standing there. But no, that's
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not how it works. Because I wondered, why don't we
just start cloning people? But then you said there would
be two of everybody, And I didn't real if you
clone somebody their babies and they grow up again, I
just thought they were like another human.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Beings, you clone them and they were twenty one, Yeah,
they just started out at twenty five or twenty one
years old.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, And I also thought, if you clone them, it's
like they knew exactly what they'd already known, so they
just kind of pick up where they left off. So
if you were twenty one and you were cloned, that
means you would know exactly what you did when you
were twenty one. Nothing would change, You'd be the exact
same thing.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
That would the rest of your life be the same. Like,
can you clone your twenty one year old self?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
You know in your fifties?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Well I didn't. I didn't know. I didn't know how
old you were when you got cloned. That's what confused me.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I did an embryo. Fred, I think it's all embryos?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Well, yeah it is now, Well now I've learned that.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, yeah, because I just wondered, how come we don't
have three of each of us walking around? Yeah? And
if you cloned the doll, do realize what it did
the dog? You know, the new dog? That's which a
question is, right, So you clone a dog based on
the DNA of your favorite dog that you may have
lost or whatever you still got the you know, the
stem cells, and you clone it. Does that dog realize
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or live the life of the former dog and do
the similar things or is it all new experiences for
that dog?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Well, thanks for asking, given that I am an expert,
oft given that I was wrong from the very beginning,
I would say, I would say, would go like this.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
If you were.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Cloned, give me an age, Rodney, just give me an
age thirty, Okay, thirty. In my way of thinking, if
you were cloned and you were thirty, you would be
the exact same way you were when you were thirty.
But anything going forward to be new new things? Yeah,
new things, right? Would you remember?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So if you're at thirty, so you're saying you can
only clone your same age, So you could and say
I'm fifty, I want to clone myself at twenty five, No,
go back and make some change the mistakes that I
made it dumb twenty five? No, well not in my plan,
which is no thirty thirty. So anything going forward you
don't know. But you remember everything that happened to you,
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and you're old. Whoever you got cloned from, you remember
everything up until thirty. Correct, the same recollection.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Correct. Yes, that was the way I looked at it,
which was completely wrong and probably a waste of time
because it made no sense, but I just asked a
question because I didn't understand, and I'm not afraid to
ask questions if I don't know something, and I think
we should all be more that way. Let's not act
like we know if we don't know, know what you know,
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know what you don't know. Anyway, the last two minutes
were a complete waste of everyone's life, because the bottom
line is I was wrong, and no one's getting cloned.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
All right.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
So, but if you have kids, you might be experiencing this,
and when you were young, maybe your parents put you
through it. Everybody's kid is the greatest kid in the world.
Everybody's kid is the best kid. And there's a period
of time, and I think more so with fathers and
moms that they think their kids are going to be stars.
They are going to be making millions of dollars. They
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will be a pro athlete or a pro dancer or whatever.
The top of the line is, that's what my kid's
going to be. Because there's my kid, and I know
if I really work with them and just grind on them,
they're gonna get there. They're gonna make money, they're gonna
be stars. I think a lot of parents believe that's
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the case. And I told the story before about the
kid when I was managing a pony league team and
his dad wanted him to play second base, and I said,
he can't catch and he's going to get hurt. And
his dad said, no, let him play second base. He's
got to play second base. And I said, he's not
playing second base. I watch him practice. He really didn't
handle the book well. On a double play attempt or something,
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he's gonna get it right in the face. Let's put
him in a place and work on his ability and
then we'll let him play second mas Well. Anyway, the
dad didn't like that very much, and it became even
a bigger deal. We traded the kid and you traded
the kid. Yeah, we traded what age was this again?
This is like eight nine years old?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Oh my god, you traded at eight nine year old kids? Yeah,
because said that age group, I didn't know if you
could trade kids.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Well, I didn't either. But the father was miserable. The
kid wasn't happy. He was complaining all the time, and
I finally said, all right, well, if you're not happy here,
let's try to put him on a team where he's
going to be happy. I'm not going to do what
you ask.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So you've ever you never you know, you went against well,
went against his better judgment, which was terrible judgment, and
you went with your gut saying, if I put the
kid at second base or for whatever, second base, right, yeah,
second base. I put him in the infield, he's gonna
get hit in the face because he doesn't use the
glove very well, correct, and so I am not going
to be responsible for that. So you didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I did not do it.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And the dad got Dad got pissed. Yeah, dad got pissed. Yeah,
that happens a lot. That happened to me. A kid
wanted to play first base. He was mad because my
son played first base and when he didn't pitch, he
played first base. And there was another kid that was
really good too, that played first base as well. And
you know, there was one other kid that that would
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interchange and give him a shot. But his dad, this
dad wanted this kid to play first base, this big kid,
left handed but very uncoordinated, right, And I said, I
can't do it. I cannot do it. That kid is
gonna get hit in the face by a ball. You know,
and we had some you know, it was in senor
le league, so we had some pretty good players over
there can play. They play shortstop and fire that ball
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to first base, and a kid can's not ready for it,
can't catch it and hits him in the nose or
hits him in the eye. I'm not ready for this.
I'm with you. I'm with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Okay. So the kid gets traded because it's I thought
he was a star. His dad thought he was a
major league second baseman, all right, So he gets traded.
The first game this kid plays for his new team,
he's playing second base ball. Hit the shortstop. We got
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to double play, Rodney. Yeah, so we got to throw
second to first. Shortstop, throws the ball to second, hits
the kid right in the nose, breaks his nose, and
the season's over very first game.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I hate the LAB. I hate the LAB. But that's
you know, sometimes you got to learn on the on
the on the fly. Sometimes it takes a tough lesson, Fred,
you were right. So what did the dad do? Do
you know what? The dad? Never heard from the dad again?
I bet you didn't never heard from the dad again.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Point was that guy thought his son was going to
be a major leaguer, and Rodney just said, you know
that happens more than you think. Well, there is a
new survey out and that's why we bring this up
today to start. Seventeen percent of parents with kids in
youth sports are convinced that their child is destined for
professional stardom. They're going to make it. They're gonna be
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the one in a million, they are going to be stars.
And that is why, for example, in the basketball world
that I know very well, because Jack had a cup
of coffee and Division one then went and played D
three and played very very well at a very good
high school athlete, I understand how this works if you
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look at the basketball world, and I'm sure it's the
same in baseball, Rodney, I'm sure it's the same. In baseball.
They have travel teams, they have private coaches. These kids
play all year long, and you spent an awful lot
of money, a lot of money to put your kids
in that position. You will spend whatever it takes to
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give them that opportunity. Because you are one of the
seventeen percent that believe your kid is a superstar. I mean,
forget it, he shouldn't even be playing at ten, he
should already be in the big leagues. And I can
see it. I'm his father or I'm his mother, and
we are going to do everything we can to make
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sure he or she fulfills their promise. Psychologically, what you're
doing is so completely and totally crushing to your kids
right off the bat, because here's why Rodney is sitting here.
He was a professional athlete. He played in the National
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Football League. He played quarterback at USC It's not because
his dad sent him to football camp. It's not because
he was out running sprints every night. Rodney could have
played Major league baseball. You want to know something, if
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you're a parent, I don't think Rodney's parents could have
taught him to be good enough to play Major league baseball.
I don't think Rodney's parents could have taught him how
to be an NFL quarterback. Rodney has some gifts and
talent that the majority of people don't because very few
get to be Rodney. And it doesn't matter what your
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parents say or how much money they invest, you either
are or you're not. And Rodney, I don't think parents
really understand what it takes. And I think that they
put a lot of pressure on kids that really shouldn't
be dealing with it. Yeah, now, one hundred percent, you've
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been in it. I've been in it, and and these
parents sometimes it's there. They're trying to live out their
fantasies through their kids. You know, their their failed high
school career, or that that opportunity they had in college
that didn't pan out, and now they're going to live
it and push it on their kids. And it's just
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it's so unfortunate because as much as we talk about
it and their stories and documentaries on it, and you know PTSD,
when it comes to kids that get.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Pushed by their parents. We heard the story of guys
like Todd Marinovich who get pushed by his parents so
hard that they crash out. You gotta think about the
guys that you're watching on TV playing professional sports are
the best of the best, and I'm talking the best
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of the best from the time they were eight years old,
and it's not even close. Think about that best player
in the league that you play in. He is the
only one that probably has a shot to play Major
League Baseball. Now, there are occasions where you might have
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two or three, but most of the time the best
player in the league that everybody knows is the best
player in that league at that park, is the only
one that's going to have a shot, a shot, a
slight shot. And that's no guarantee, that's no guarantee by
the time he's at middle school or high school, that
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he doesn't run into somebody else that's better than him,
because that's what happens. I mean, I got recruited. I
was not to two, but I was, you know, the
best player in in my area and in Arizona and
and then got to USC. It turns out there were
thirty of those that were the best kids in DC,
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best kids in Pittsburgh, best kids, and that got recruited there.
They were the standouts, and not probably two percent of
those made it to the league, you know. And I
remember of that class, it was like one of our
it was us was like one of the top three
recruiting classes in the in the country that you and
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we had all American high school kids from all over
and I believe three of us from that freshman class
played in the NFL three. And so it's just it
is it's really a disservice because you're putting that into
the kid, and the kid's gonna believe what the parents
say and believe it and believe it, and there's gonna
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be a tremendous letdown at some point. That's why I
hate fred that there nowadays that kids don't get it
loud or are not encouraged to play multiple sports. Playing
multiple sports is like, you know, it's also like studying
different subjects as well. You never know. You know, if
you don't do it, you don't know. You might have
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a savant on your hand in math or science or
whatever it may be. But if you don't do a
variety of different things, you'll never know. And so to
isolate a kid because you believe that you'd missed their
chance at baseball and the major leagues that I'm gonna
push him in, say them to travel ball and buy
the latest bat and the latest shoes. And that's another
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thing he mentioned, the costs You How about the parents
that just go out and they get their kids got
the latest of everything. They got the newest Eastern bat,
they got the newest club, they got the best shoes,
they got every shoe known to man.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
By the way, if you have those shoes, it doesn't
mean you run faster. It does. You should understand that
they don't have jet blasters on them.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
No, they do not. You want to know.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Another area, parents really believe their kids could be stars. Gymnastics. Oh,
women's gymnastics.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
That's a whole arena that. Yeah, that is scary as well.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Right, little girls in gymnastics, and it's not great exercise,
and it's a wonderful bonding experience and it's very healthy
for them to do it. But when you have people
with little girls that believe, well, this is the next
Simone Biles, this is gonna be an Olympic champ. So
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we're really gonna put the pedal to the metal here.
You know, many kids make the Olympics. How many kids
make the Olympics? The gymnastics team at the Olympics, And
how many girls, little girls because their parents tell them
believe they're gonna make it? Any idea what that's like?
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Do you know the investment parents make hoping their daughter
or son will get to the Olympics in gymnastics, it's
insane because here's the thing, here's the thing. You either
got it or you don't. And you don't want to
hear that as a parent. Every kid is good at something.
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They have unique special gifts, but that doesn't mean they're
good at everything. You have to put them in an
opportunity to succeed, not put them in a world where
you expect them to do something. What that will do
is harbor resentment down the road.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Absolutely absolutely, you know, you think about it. You're right
about the gymnastics, because they'll take these young girls and
they'll go to camps and after camp after camp and
have them up at five o'clock in the morning and
doing all these things, all these different things, and she
may be gifted at something else, but she never gets
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an opportunity to explore it because the parents are dialed
in so hard to fulfill their dreams. And that's really
what it's about. It's fulfilling their dream through their kid.
And it's such a disservice. And you see so many
kids get burnt out at a certain age where they
just don't want to do it or they rebel. You know,
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by the time they're teenagers, they're like, I'm done with this.
It's got to be because the kid wants it, and
he wants to do it, and he has a love
for it, and if he does, then you help him,
but you cannot push it on your kids, and that
so many parents do that. Again, everybody's good at something.
As a parent, you have to remember this.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
And if your kids are older, you already know, and
if your kids are younger, it's something to keep in mind.
Everybody's good at something, maybe not what you think they
should be good at, but it's truly not about you.
It's about them, and you have to put them in
a position where they can succeed at that, not what
you think is best. Because it's really simple. If you
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look at a group of kids, I'll tell you what,
it'll be pretty easy to pick out. Now, maybe there's
one outlier, yeah, but in any group, if you look
at a group of kids, you can pick out who
the athlete is. Maybe some kids are athletic, right, but
you can pick out the athlete. Yeah, you can pick
out the guy. Okay, you can do that. Your kid
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may not be that. Your kid may be athletic, but
maybe not that guy. And if you're honest with yourself,
you can tell that changes as they get older. Rodney,
you pointed out you might be great in eighth grade,
but now you get to high school and somebody's better Okay,
that's the way it works. But you see, even doing
what we do for a living in television, I used
to tell people because I would critique their audition tapes
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and help them, and they say, I want to be
on TV. And I look at them and I go,
You're never going to be on TV. That's never going
to happen. Maybe you can be a producer.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Maybe you can be an editor, maybe you can be
a writer, maybe you can be a creative type. You're
not going to be on TV. Well, I want to be,
but you're not going to And it doesn't matter how
much you want that.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
That's not going to happen for you. For whatever reason.
You don't have that. I'd like to be a lawyer.
You know what, I'm not going to be a lawyer.
I didn't study, I probably didn't have what it took
to do it.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
But I wanted to be a lawyer. That's not gonna
happen for me. I have to deal with that and
find what I'm good at. If you really look around
in specialized jobs, athletics being one of them, it's pretty
easy to see who's gonna make it and who's not.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Pretty easy. If your kid's on a youth team, a
baseball team, a football team, a basketball team. They're playing
Pop Warner football and a kid on the other team
scores nineteen touchdowns. I gotta be honest. I think that
kid's got a shot. Your kid takes the ball, picks
up three yards on four carries, I'm not so sure.
I'm not so sure. If you're playing youth baseball and
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the other team a guy hits four home runs, your
kid bunts, pops out, and walks. Gotta be honest, I'm
going with that other kid, the guy that hit four
home runs. Even as a kid. In basketball, if a
guy scores forty nine points and your kid misses a
foul shot because he plays six minutes and got fouled,
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I'm going with the guy with forty nine points. That
doesn't make your kid bad, that doesn't make them awful.
It means the other kid's better because they have gifts.
And it doesn't matter how much money you spend on coaching. Well,
I'm gonna bring a coach in here, and the first
thing he's gonna do is teach my kid how to
get taller. Really, that's what you're gonna do here here.
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And I got another coach. Okay, what's he gonna do.
Teach him to run a lot faster, he can help.
Fast people are fast people. Tall people are tall people.
Big people are big people. Pretty simple, Yeah, pretty easy.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
It is. It is and it's genetics. It's God given talent.
You know, they're the people that you mentioned. Fast people
are fast, tall people. If you're fast, you get up
out of bed at four o'clock in the morning and
you you're faster than everybody else without even thinking about it,
without even thinking about it, you are really just a gift.
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You can meet that other kid that's, you know, up
and up all night long, working on his start and
working on his finish and working on his stride and
working on everything. Let's call this kid. Oh he's sleeping. Oh,
get him up. Okay, let's go race. That kid beats
you a kid by a mile exactly. It's just it
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is we're all, like you said, everybody's got a talent.
Everyone does. There's a gift with everyone, and it is
a shame and it's it's it's evident more and more
with parents that don't allow their kids to figure out
what that gift is. They try to push that gift
on their kids. How about tennis. Let's look another one too,
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Let's look at tennis. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
So in tennis, yeah, you can improve your game, there's
no question about it. As a kid, you can get
some coaching and you can become better. But if you
have a twelve year old kid serving the ball ninety
six miles an hour, let's call it seventy miles an hour.
Gotta be honest with you, I'm going with that kid.
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I'm gonna go with that kid. Why because it looks
like they're a little better. They got a shot. They
have intangibles. They have intangibles that we can't teach. So
when one in six parents think they're raising the next
Lebron James, what they're really doing is investing an awful
lot of money on something that will never happen. Because,
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you know what, you can give a kid the best
coaching in the world, and Rodney, you just said it.
You can teach a kid to be a sprinter, give
them coaching, prepare them for high school meets with a
dream of being an Olympian, and then somebody walking by
the track one day he sees this kid practicing and
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his coach goes, hey, I'll show you how fast you are.
Let's race this guy. He doesn't know any thing. And
the guy goes me, yeah, okay, I'll walk out there.
And the guy didn't have track shoes, he's got nothing.
The other guy's in the blocks getting ready, and the
guys you're standing there and a coach blows the whistle
and goes, yells go. The kid comes out of the blocks.
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He's doing the fundamentals that he's been taught and how
to move his body and the other kids across the
finish line and he's had absolutely no training.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, that's life.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
It doesn't matter how much money you spent.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, yeah, you got it.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
You got it. You don't you.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Don't, Yeah you really? I mean it's it's and one
in six parents believe that their kid is going to
be a professional. That's a large number. That's a that's
a huge number of un percentage of parents that believe that.
It goes against everything that is that we have stats for.
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It doesn't. It doesn't add up because because when you
do the stats and you know, measuring up of what
kids who makes it and who doesn't, it's one of
one of one percent that make it to that level.
It's it's it's sad, it really is. But I don't
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think it's going to change for it. Oh no, we
got worse. Yeah, they get worse. It's not going to change. No, No,
I love this coming up. The Dodgers are ruining baseball.
I mean, look at the money they spend.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Just look at it. Okay, we are going to look
at it next.
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Speaker 1 (26:09):
Lets you.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a throwback Thursday. Rodney Pete, fred Rogan,
come on, let's go, Freddy.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Okay, let's do this. Rodney, come on, all right, I
thought you were going to add something here, but let's go. Yeah. So,
Dodger fans, are you sick and tired of hearing? Well,
the Dodgers spend the most money. That's the problem. If
the Dodgers didn't spend all this money, they wouldn't be
that good. They're ruining baseball, they're destroying the sport. Okay, well,
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let's see. Let's see how much money they really spend.
Let's look at it. Let's see. I believe Will Smith
makes about ten million a year. Okay, I think it's
ten million. So that makes him the top paid catcher
in baseball. Correct, Well, I don't think so. Fit Sean
(27:06):
Murphy makes fifteen million, So the Dodger catcher is not
the top paid catcher in the game.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
First base?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Talk about first base, Well, Freddy Freeman makes a lot
of money, a lot of money. Freddie Freeman is not
the top paid first baseman in baseball. Vlad Guerrero makes
forty million dollars a year. Let's go to second base.
Obviously it could be Tommy Edmund. Let's say it's Tommy Edmund.
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I think he makes fifteen million.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Dollars a year. Wow, a lot of money. Of course
they're going to be the best. Jose L two Bay
makes thirty three million, he's the top.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Paid second baseman. Mm hmm, shortstop. Oh, you gotta have Mookie.
Mooky's got to be the highest paid for sure.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Francisco Lindor almost thirty three million. Yeah, third base, Well,
you know, Max Munsey, I think this year he makes ten.
Kevin right team option, he makes ten this year?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Okay, Well, still, that's a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
That's a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
The top pay third basement in baseball. Ladies and gentlemen,
you're Anthony Rendon. Anthony Rendon, Yes, makes thirty eight million dollars.
And Kevin you said he has two more years.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I believe it was one more, but I can double
check on that.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Does that mean he makes a million dollars per start?
Based on the starts he's had for the Angels, I
think he makes a little over a million, over a
million to start over, a little a little over given
the starts. Given the starts, he's a little over a
million a game.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Right left field, let's tail Hernandez, right, he makes twenty
two million. I think a lot of money. Rodney, that's
a lot of money. Yeah, Jordan Alvarez makes twenty six million,
almost twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Who's in center field? Oh it's piez.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Piz, young player. Okay, he doesn't make a whole lot
right now, but still he's got to be up there.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Right, Oh my god, he's got to be killing it
right right, Mike Twyout's the top paid center fielder in
baseball at thirty seven million dollars. Right, yeah, okay, let's
do right field. So in right field, you know that
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was Michael Conforto whilst jury made seventeen million. Yeah all right,
what's that? Hey, that's not chump change.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Well let's put Michael Conforto in just common you know,
combination of him and say, kykke K key K plays
a lot. So you want to compare those two Adam,
those two Adam up together key K and Conforto?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
What's key K like seven million something like that.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Something like that ten seven under ten I think he is.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Okay, so let's say it's twenty four million. That's a
lot of money. Yeah, yeah, the top paid right fielders
won Soto sixty one million dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
H not one player on that list the Dodgers have
as the highest player and I know everything. Well, you
got the Chillhey, money is deferred and all that. Guys,
it's what you get paid right now. Yeah, that's the deal. Okay, Now, wait,
you know we made a mistake. Wait, we have to
consider the bullpen right ten Or Scott, Yes, seventeen million, right,
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I think that's about what he makes. Yeah, yep, Josh
Hater makes nineteen million. Let's go starting pitching. Oh, Blake Snell,
they just signed him to a big deal or is
it Glass Now? No, Blake Snell sign a bigger deal?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I blieve than Glass, Blake Snell, Yamamoto's making over thirty.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Years, Yamamoto the three hundred and twenty five million dollars deal.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Right, and Blake Snell's making over thirty a year? Yeah,
Glass now is close to it. That's a lot of money.
Rodney Zach Wheeler makes forty two million dollars a year.
So if you look at the top paid person by position,
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I don't see the Dodgers in any of those. I
don't see their name anywhere the top paid by position,
I don't see the Dodgers. They're not paying anybody forty
two million dollars a year to pitch. They're not paying
their catcher fifteen million dollars, their first basement forty million dollars,
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their second baseman thirty three million dollars. They're left fielder
twenty seven million dollars, their center fielder thirty seven million.
You would think the.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Way people talk that dead Dodgers, they have the highest
paid player at every position.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yea, what is this?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Those got to be wrong.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
This can't be right. The Dodgers are the top paid
guide every position. If you listen to everybody, if you
just listen to everybody, this was just wrong because every
Dodger should be on this list. Funny none are.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah, yeah, isn't that incredible? I mean, just the whole
ruining baseball. They're just buying, buying teams. They would if
they were to your point that this list would be
loaded with Dodgers, are they? It would be? It would
be lists at least five of Dodgers would be on
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the highest paid list for per position.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I don't see him on there, but I will tell
you this. I count two Mets. I count two Mets, yep,
I count two Astros Philly, two angels actually, and that's
where going to go, and that's where I was gonna go.
And two angels. So Ardie Moreno was not afraid to
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spend money, just spent it horribly. Can we all agree?
Can we just take a second and congratulate Anthony Rendon?
So I think we need to trumpet this guy and
salute him. He is the ultimate workman, cop guy. He's
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making thirty eight million dollars for getting up and breathing.
That's a pretty good gig. That's a good gig. He's
making thirty eight million dollars for saying, good morning, honey,
give me my money. What did you do today?
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Why?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I said good morning? Is that enough for you? What
did you do yesterday? And walked around a little bit,
made a few calls, went swimming. How you agreed?
Speaker 2 (33:55):
How you're gonna have to get Kevin in on this one?
How much of a bullet that the Dodgers dodge on
that one? Would you have him or Max Munsey play
your third baseman?
Speaker 5 (34:09):
I'd have Buddy Kennedy because at least he can actually play,
at least he's on the field.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
I'm paying this guy forty million dollars a year to
do nothing like it.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
And it feels like he shut it down when he
got that that deal, because didn't you believe that, you know,
the year that the Nationals won it all, he was
very instrumental on that. He and Juan Soto. Obviously, the
pitching was crazy with Strasburg and Scherzer and those guys
were lights out. But Soto was big, but n Dome
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Dome was a killer during the playoffs. He got to
the Angels and got comfortable and just he can't get
on the field.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Kevin, did he get hurt in his first year? Yes,
his first.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Year was the COVID year. I think he played, if
not every game, the majority of them. It was his
second year that he got injured. So he had a hamstring,
shin injury, oblique hip injury, and all these things have
just accumulated over the last couple of years or last
few years throughout his contract.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I mean, you don't wish anybody along Kevin four years now.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah, so he got there. Twenty twenty was his first season,
the COVID year.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
So next year's his final year. Yes, you don't wish
anybody it will. You don't want anybody get hurt. But
I mean this is is he expected to play next
year or no? Is he even expected to play?
Speaker 5 (35:30):
I think it might be one of those. Even if
he's healthy enough to play, they probably just tell him
to stay home.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
God, what's the point.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
I used to have an old school coach, old school
coach that coached with the Lions, and when guys were
hurt that didn't play and just couldn't get on the field,
he would he would lou He was a loud talker too,
because he'd walk around the locker room with just loud
talk guys, and he was He's not very cute, fred So,
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but he would think he was very good looking guy.
He'd always dressed up good and thought he looked good.
But he was not very cute anyway. He was an
old school coach. And the thing he would say to
the guys that would never play or couldn't get on
the field, it's like, damn, look at you making all
that money. At least Jesse James used a gun. He's
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stealing without a gun man, What you doing.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
The coach?
Speaker 2 (36:27):
The coach would say that even Jesse James used the gun,
you out here stealing with no gun. You gotta walk
into that paycheck room backwards, the son. He scared to
show your face to pick up that chick. Oh my god,
(36:51):
I guess, I guess. The tale of this story is this. Besides,
Anthony Rundon has acquired the greatest contract in sports history,
getting paid to do nothing. None of the Dodgers of
the top paid at their position. None, Mets have two,
Astros have two, Angels have two. Wait a minute, does
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Josh Hater.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Play for Houston?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
And even if you break down Mooki's deal, right, I
don't think Mooki would be the highest paid above Lindor. No. No, no,
he's got some of it deferred or whatever it is.
But he wouldn't be higher per year than Lindoor. No,
(37:38):
I don't think so. But now I'm sorry I have
to correct it because I just said it out loud.
The Astros have three because Josh Hater pitches for Houston.
That's right, they have three. And who would you rather
pay right now? Yamamoto or Zach Wheeler?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Who looks like a better deal now, So again, it
helps if you have money at the end of the day,
it's always highest spend it and next the danger of
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those ten year contracts.
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Springs Resort Casino. All right, let's just get into this
real quick. We talked about it a lot. I have
strong feelings about it. Long term contracts, twelve year deals,
thirteen year deals, ten year deals always point out that
there's going to be a point of diminishing returns and
when that point hits, suddenly it's not worth as much.
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And it just depends when it hits it five years
in of a ten year deal. All right, Well, then
you've overpaid dramatically for five years. And what if you
got nothing out of it, what if it didn't lead
to anything.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Then you spend an awful lot of money, and you're
throwing bad money against good because obviously the player isn't
as worth as much. Later in the deal, it's Bryce
Harper and Dave Dombrowski, the Phillies general manager president general manager.
So Dombroski made a comment that Bryce Harper took exception
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to I get it, said, well, he's not really an
elite player anymore. Probably never should have said that, by
the way.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah, we don't well yeah, he basically said, we don't
know if we can get to elite status anymore. Right
would you say that?
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Why would you say that about a guy that's one
of the faces of your if not the face of
your franchise, that plays you know, hurt plays as much
as he can play, move from outfield to first base,
so he could play when his arm was hurt. I mean,
why would you say that the guy that everybody believes
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gives it everything he gots, He plays hard every single
time he's out there. Why would you even say that
about the guy like that. Well, you'd say that because
he's not earning his contract in their mind. Now, the
intangibles you pointed out, Rodney or true, I'd take Bryce
Harper tomorrow. I'd love to have him on the Dodgers.
Not at what he makes, but I'd love to have him.
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And there's the danger there, it is there comes a
point and dombroskis saying that by the way that you
had a conversation, apparently things are moved over, but they
can never be smoothed over after that.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Ever.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Still, yeah, it could never happen. At what year is
Bryce Harper in that deal? Because he signed out what
a ten year deal with them? I thought it was
a thirteen thirteen year deal, that's right, because he Dodgers
were talking of talking about ten yere right, and he
signed a thirteen year deal. Is he in like year
five with them or something like that?
Speaker 5 (42:22):
His contract is up in twenty thirty one, and I
believe he has no opt.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Outs, right, So six years he's served at that deal,
right right, Yeah, that's what it would be, three hundred
million dollars whatever. If Ryce Harper would be a free
agent today, what would he warn out there? What would
he want or what would he get? What would he get?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
He gets a four year deal, four year deal, probably
thirty at least thirty. If you're pay him more, that's
your error. But okay, at least thirty, four year deal, thirty.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
My point is, as time goes on, that deal that
he signed becomes a bargain. At the end of the day,
he just continues to do what he did. He didn't
have a great year, but he's capable of having another
great year. So six years in, you know, if he's
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a free agent, now, what would you have to pay
for him? And it matches the deal that he's already signed.
If not, he might be able to go out and
get more on the street. Guarantee you in two years
from now, three years from now, that's gonna look like
a bargain for them because price is gonna escalate like
they have. Yeah, but Mike Trout's deal looks like a bargain.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
For who.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
To the Angels, No, it doesn't. It looks like a
disaster is gonna look like a bargain. Oh, Toddy's deal
is gonna look like a bargain in five years old,
TONI will be different. Mike Trump making thirty seven million dollars,
that's a bargain. He was healthy a lot this year, though,
Fred what and.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
That's now the barometer of success. Well, at least you
can walk most of the year.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
It is.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
It is, Oh my god, that's the danger in this.
That's the danger. You give guys long term deals at
the end, they will come back to bite you. Dave
Dombrowski's comment shocking as it was pretty much doubted the
exclamation point on that. You give a guy a ten
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year deal for all do you really think, honest to god,
that one Soto's deal is going to be profitable for
the Mets. That was awful, awful for them, and now
they're stuck with him for all those years.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Would say a thirteen year old deal too.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
He signed ten.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
I thought he's signed fifteen seven.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Sixty five fifteen.
Speaker 5 (45:07):
Now I will say he's making like well close to
forty five a year. Bryce Harper from a year to
year basis is actually not that bad. He's making an
average of about twenty five million a year.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yeah, that's not terrible at all.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
He's not breaking the bank. And if he was on
the market he was a free agent today, he'd make
upwards of thirty thirty five million dollars. He would get
that from somebody.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Yeah, a down year for him.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
Last year was one hundred and thirty one hits, twenty
seven home runs, seventy five RBI. There's there's players making
twenty five twenty eight million dollars who don't even have
that production.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Yeah, I would say it's.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Gonna give you for the next four years. Bryce Harper
is gonna give.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
That's a bargain, especially playing first base.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
If he's going to move first to first base full
time now nowhere and tear in the outfield, that one
that that deal might not age that poorly.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Well, Counser is a gm it's agent pretty poorly right now.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
He was speaking mainly from a monetary standpoint as opposed
to a physical standpoint. We just hope Bryce can get
to an elite level again. Or was he thinking or
you think in the back of his mindset, he's not
living up to his contract.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
That's what I think he meant. Really, that's what I
think he meant, because what's your definition of elite? What's
the defining term here? How are you going to define elite?
You make actions and you should perform like this that.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Makes you go back to his best years that he's
had and think that he can get to thirty plus
home runs and one hundred RBIs you don't think he's
not thinking he can ever get back there.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Again, he's questioning it.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, I mean again to Kevin's point, the guys with
his stats, he's right in the norm of what guys
are making for that. So I mean, what, you know what, Okay,
what do they do with Kyle Schwarber. Now there's a
good one, there's a good one. How many years do
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you give him? Because that's what it comes down to.
How many years? Yeah, you can't. You can't go over
five years with him.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
I wouldn't give him that.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
I give him for it's a four year deal, but
it's gonna be pricey. He may make fifty a year.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
I doubt it. Doubt it.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
They are not able to Philly fans will erupt and
burn down that stadium. They let Kyle Schwarber go, Well,
take the matches away. He's slowing down d H. He's
a DH professional hitter. Yeah, I mean a professional hitter,
but of the best in the game and not nowhere
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and tear playing the field. I think he last his
hitting last and can and can has longevity to it. Yeah,
at least a four year deal. I would do it him.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
If he could play the outfield, that would be the
guy I would ask the Dodgers to sign. If he
could play the outfield, that'd be my guy because he
can rake.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
You give him fifty million a year. No, that's what
he was gonna get.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
You're not gonna get it here.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Then he's not coming to be the Dodger.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Okay, enjoy godspeed. That's a luxury.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
No, not giving him fifty million a year? No, Okay.
If kylege Schwarber played a consistent, adequate right field and
that was his position, you wouldn't give him four year,
two hundred million dollar deal. No, five year, two hundred
million dollar deal. No, I wouldn't do it. Pay him
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forty a year if he played a good right field,
solid right field for you, I don't think so. Because
that's what Kyle Tucker's about to get from somebody, and
he's going to get it for more years. Yes, yeah, No,
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you take Kyle Tucker, you take Kyle Schwarber, same price,
just a few years, if I have to pick one
or the other. So you're saying, is Tucker going to
make forty years?
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Schwarbro make forty years? That's what you're saying. Yeah, and
now the years are the difference. Uh, Tucker gets ten
and Schwarber gets how many? Four? I would take? I
take Schwarver five? No, I wouldn't do it. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
You don't think Swarber's got five more years in him?
Speaker 1 (49:54):
We can't.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
I mean, these guys are going to be aar if
you wouldn't give anybody of more than five years deal? No, No,
you wouldn't mm hmm to get him. You wouldn't do it.
So you wouldn't have You wouldn't have signed Otani.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Wouldn't have signed You wouldn't have signed Yamamoto.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
I don't know if I would have done that.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
You wouldn't have signed Mooki.
Speaker 5 (50:16):
You wouldn't have signed Freddy Freeman, who signed a six
year contract year deal.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Yeah, I probably wouldn't have signed Mookie.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Then Blake Snell signed a six year deal too. I
thought five eight million dollars year anyway, So yeah, you
wouldn't have Mookie, you would have Otani, you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
That's right, five years for Snell.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
Yeah, I wouldn't have them.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Yeah right.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
It gave Smith ten right, Yeah, yeah, you gave him
ten Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
I'll tell you why we Dodgers would win if we
didn't have MOOKI we just put Buddy Kennedy.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
The Smith gave him a friendly deal. Smith, he did.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
He took it to your discount.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
That's true. Yeah, right, he said, I want to be here,
just pay me this. Yeah, upuying first base at some
point at the end of the.
Speaker 5 (51:04):
Career, Fred, you want to be like the old the
old Oakland A has just signed people to one two
year deals and yeah, bottom barrel.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Rebuild it and rebuild it every two years.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
I told you I think that should be the rule.
And then you guys laugh at me.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
No, no, because you're you're you're not you're not a
true Dodger. Then, because you don't want to win back
to back to back to back to back. Chamin, I
do know you don't.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
Because you're willing. You're not willing to do what it takes.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Yeah, I want Yamamoto here as long as he can
be here, because I think he can have another five
year run at least, and if and if the backside
of that, for four years he's not as dominant as
those first five years, so be it. He got me
five championships. I'm okay with that. All right, Well we'll
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have to continue this later, Rodney, Yes, because here's my question.
Are these contracts front loaded? In other words, it's a
ten year deal. For five years you.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
Get paid paid, paid, and the last five you don't
paid as much. That would be a different way to
look at it, because then you could keep rebuilding the
team because you're not spending as much per player per year.
All right, when we come back, I told you the
last night Slikers game didn't mean anything.
All right, here we go a two hour show. Fred
Rogan Rodney Peete on La Sports. Rodney, How you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm doing good, Fred, I'm doing good. How are you?
How are you? I'm just watching. Any time I flip on, Fred,
I just flip on to see what's going on in
the world of sports and different channels in the world
of life as well. They're playing a Dodger game. MLB
is still playing Dodger games. They're playing the Dodgers versus
the Milwaukee Brewers series right now. I can't get enough.
(00:33):
Ain't get enough. Joe Az just hit one out of
the stadium. Does that surprise? What's happening?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Look, if you're a Dodger fan, let's be honest. My
wife was a foreman's last night on riverside. She was
telling me about it. Sitting down at the table, she
and her girlfriends. Some guys are sitting next to her.
You know what, they're talking about? The Dodgers. Yeah, they're
talking about the Dodgers. These six guys are sitting there
talking about the Dodgers. Got into the conversation. She schooled
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them a little bit. I'll tell you that she schooled them.
But everybody is still talking about the Dodgers, and by
the way, later in the show we're going to talk
about the Dodgers as well. Here is something we talked about.
So if you have kids, maybe you're experiencing this. And
if you don't have kids, guess what, at one time
you were a kid. Oh yeah, at one time you
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were a kid. So I think we can all relate
to this.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Unless you're a cloned and you were born at six
years old.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
So I don't think we need to get into the
cloning conversation again. Sure, yeah, because I didn't understand if
you were cloned. It was Tom Brady's dog, and I thought,
what if you cloned a human being? So I thought
Tom Brady cloned his dog and then there was another
dog the exact same size standing there. But no, that's
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not how it works. Because I wondered, why don't we
just start cloning people? But then you said there would
be two of everybody, And I didn't real if you
clone somebody their babies and they grow up again, I
just thought they were like another human.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Beings, you clone them and they were twenty one, Yeah,
they just started out at twenty five or twenty one
years old.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, And I also thought, if you clone them, it's
like they knew exactly what they'd already known, so they
just kind of pick up where they left off. So
if you were twenty one and you were cloned, that
means you would know exactly what you did when you
were twenty one. Nothing would change, You'd be the exact
same thing.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
That would the rest of your life be the same. Like,
can you clone your twenty one year old self?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
You know in your fifties?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Well I didn't. I didn't know. I didn't know how
old you were when you got cloned. That's what confused me.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I did an embryo. Fred, I think it's all embryos?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Well, yeah it is now, Well now I've learned that.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, yeah, because I just wondered, how come we don't
have three of each of us walking around? Yeah? And
if you cloned the doll, do realize what it did
the dog? You know, the new dog? That's which a
question is, right, So you clone a dog based on
the DNA of your favorite dog that you may have
lost or whatever you still got the you know, the
stem cells, and you clone it. Does that dog realize
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or live the life of the former dog and do
the similar things or is it all new experiences for
that dog?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Well, thanks for asking, given that I am an expert,
oft given that I was wrong from the very beginning,
I would say, I would say, would go like this.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
If you were.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Cloned, give me an age, Rodney, just give me an
age thirty, Okay, thirty. In my way of thinking, if
you were cloned and you were thirty, you would be
the exact same way you were when you were thirty.
But anything going forward to be new new things? Yeah,
new things, right? Would you remember?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So if you're at thirty, so you're saying you can
only clone your same age, So you could and say
I'm fifty, I want to clone myself at twenty five, No,
go back and make some change the mistakes that I
made it dumb twenty five? No, well not in my plan,
which is no thirty thirty. So anything going forward you
don't know. But you remember everything that happened to you,
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and you're old. Whoever you got cloned from, you remember
everything up until thirty. Correct, the same recollection.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Correct. Yes, that was the way I looked at it,
which was completely wrong and probably a waste of time
because it made no sense, but I just asked a
question because I didn't understand, and I'm not afraid to
ask questions if I don't know something, and I think
we should all be more that way. Let's not act
like we know if we don't know, know what you know,
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know what you don't know. Anyway, the last two minutes
were a complete waste of everyone's life, because the bottom
line is I was wrong, and no one's getting cloned.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
All right.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
So, but if you have kids, you might be experiencing this,
and when you were young, maybe your parents put you
through it. Everybody's kid is the greatest kid in the world.
Everybody's kid is the best kid. And there's a period
of time, and I think more so with fathers and
moms that they think their kids are going to be stars.
They are going to be making millions of dollars. They
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will be a pro athlete or a pro dancer or whatever.
The top of the line is, that's what my kid's
going to be. Because there's my kid, and I know
if I really work with them and just grind on them,
they're gonna get there. They're gonna make money, they're gonna
be stars. I think a lot of parents believe that's
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the case. And I told the story before about the
kid when I was managing a pony league team and
his dad wanted him to play second base, and I said,
he can't catch and he's going to get hurt. And
his dad said, no, let him play second base. He's
got to play second base. And I said, he's not
playing second base. I watch him practice. He really didn't
handle the book well. On a double play attempt or something,
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he's gonna get it right in the face. Let's put
him in a place and work on his ability and
then we'll let him play second mas Well. Anyway, the
dad didn't like that very much, and it became even
a bigger deal. We traded the kid and you traded
the kid. Yeah, we traded what age was this again?
This is like eight nine years old?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Oh my god, you traded at eight nine year old kids? Yeah,
because said that age group, I didn't know if you
could trade kids.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Well, I didn't either. But the father was miserable. The
kid wasn't happy. He was complaining all the time, and
I finally said, all right, well, if you're not happy here,
let's try to put him on a team where he's
going to be happy. I'm not going to do what
you ask.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So you've ever you never you know, you went against well,
went against his better judgment, which was terrible judgment, and
you went with your gut saying, if I put the
kid at second base or for whatever, second base, right, yeah,
second base. I put him in the infield, he's gonna
get hit in the face because he doesn't use the
glove very well, correct, and so I am not going
to be responsible for that. So you didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I did not do it.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And the dad got Dad got pissed. Yeah, dad got pissed. Yeah,
that happens a lot. That happened to me. A kid
wanted to play first base. He was mad because my
son played first base and when he didn't pitch, he
played first base. And there was another kid that was
really good too, that played first base as well. And
you know, there was one other kid that that would
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interchange and give him a shot. But his dad, this
dad wanted this kid to play first base, this big kid,
left handed but very uncoordinated, right, And I said, I
can't do it. I cannot do it. That kid is
gonna get hit in the face by a ball. You know,
and we had some you know, it was in senor
le league, so we had some pretty good players over
there can play. They play shortstop and fire that ball
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to first base, and a kid can's not ready for it,
can't catch it and hits him in the nose or
hits him in the eye. I'm not ready for this.
I'm with you. I'm with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Okay. So the kid gets traded because it's I thought
he was a star. His dad thought he was a
major league second baseman, all right, So he gets traded.
The first game this kid plays for his new team,
he's playing second base ball. Hit the shortstop. We got
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to double play, Rodney. Yeah, so we got to throw
second to first. Shortstop, throws the ball to second, hits
the kid right in the nose, breaks his nose, and
the season's over very first game.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I hate the LAB. I hate the LAB. But that's
you know, sometimes you got to learn on the on
the on the fly. Sometimes it takes a tough lesson, Fred,
you were right. So what did the dad do? Do
you know what? The dad? Never heard from the dad again?
I bet you didn't never heard from the dad again.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Point was that guy thought his son was going to
be a major leaguer, and Rodney just said, you know
that happens more than you think. Well, there is a
new survey out and that's why we bring this up
today to start. Seventeen percent of parents with kids in
youth sports are convinced that their child is destined for
professional stardom. They're going to make it. They're gonna be
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the one in a million, they are going to be stars.
And that is why, for example, in the basketball world
that I know very well, because Jack had a cup
of coffee and Division one then went and played D
three and played very very well at a very good
high school athlete, I understand how this works if you
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look at the basketball world, and I'm sure it's the
same in baseball, Rodney, I'm sure it's the same. In baseball.
They have travel teams, they have private coaches. These kids
play all year long, and you spent an awful lot
of money, a lot of money to put your kids
in that position. You will spend whatever it takes to
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give them that opportunity. Because you are one of the
seventeen percent that believe your kid is a superstar. I mean,
forget it, he shouldn't even be playing at ten, he
should already be in the big leagues. And I can
see it. I'm his father or I'm his mother, and
we are going to do everything we can to make
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sure he or she fulfills their promise. Psychologically, what you're
doing is so completely and totally crushing to your kids
right off the bat, because here's why Rodney is sitting here.
He was a professional athlete. He played in the National
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Football League. He played quarterback at USC It's not because
his dad sent him to football camp. It's not because
he was out running sprints every night. Rodney could have
played Major league baseball. You want to know something, if
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you're a parent, I don't think Rodney's parents could have
taught him to be good enough to play Major league baseball.
I don't think Rodney's parents could have taught him how
to be an NFL quarterback. Rodney has some gifts and
talent that the majority of people don't because very few
get to be Rodney. And it doesn't matter what your
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parents say or how much money they invest, you either
are or you're not. And Rodney, I don't think parents
really understand what it takes. And I think that they
put a lot of pressure on kids that really shouldn't
be dealing with it. Yeah, now, one hundred percent, you've
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been in it. I've been in it, and and these
parents sometimes it's there. They're trying to live out their
fantasies through their kids. You know, their their failed high
school career, or that that opportunity they had in college
that didn't pan out, and now they're going to live
it and push it on their kids. And it's just
(12:05):
it's so unfortunate because as much as we talk about
it and their stories and documentaries on it, and you know PTSD,
when it comes to kids that get.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Pushed by their parents. We heard the story of guys
like Todd Marinovich who get pushed by his parents so
hard that they crash out. You gotta think about the
guys that you're watching on TV playing professional sports are
the best of the best, and I'm talking the best
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of the best from the time they were eight years old,
and it's not even close. Think about that best player
in the league that you play in. He is the
only one that probably has a shot to play Major
League Baseball. Now, there are occasions where you might have
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two or three, but most of the time the best
player in the league that everybody knows is the best
player in that league at that park, is the only
one that's going to have a shot, a shot, a
slight shot. And that's no guarantee, that's no guarantee by
the time he's at middle school or high school, that
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he doesn't run into somebody else that's better than him,
because that's what happens. I mean, I got recruited. I
was not to two, but I was, you know, the
best player in in my area and in Arizona and
and then got to USC. It turns out there were
thirty of those that were the best kids in DC,
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best kids in Pittsburgh, best kids, and that got recruited there.
They were the standouts, and not probably two percent of
those made it to the league, you know. And I
remember of that class, it was like one of our
it was us was like one of the top three
recruiting classes in the in the country that you and
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we had all American high school kids from all over
and I believe three of us from that freshman class
played in the NFL three. And so it's just it
is it's really a disservice because you're putting that into
the kid, and the kid's gonna believe what the parents
say and believe it and believe it, and there's gonna
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be a tremendous letdown at some point. That's why I
hate fred that there nowadays that kids don't get it
loud or are not encouraged to play multiple sports. Playing
multiple sports is like, you know, it's also like studying
different subjects as well. You never know. You know, if
you don't do it, you don't know. You might have
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a savant on your hand in math or science or
whatever it may be. But if you don't do a
variety of different things, you'll never know. And so to
isolate a kid because you believe that you'd missed their
chance at baseball and the major leagues that I'm gonna
push him in, say them to travel ball and buy
the latest bat and the latest shoes. And that's another
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thing he mentioned, the costs You How about the parents
that just go out and they get their kids got
the latest of everything. They got the newest Eastern bat,
they got the newest club, they got the best shoes,
they got every shoe known to man.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
By the way, if you have those shoes, it doesn't
mean you run faster. It does. You should understand that
they don't have jet blasters on them.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
No, they do not. You want to know.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Another area, parents really believe their kids could be stars. Gymnastics. Oh,
women's gymnastics.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
That's a whole arena that. Yeah, that is scary as well.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Right, little girls in gymnastics, and it's not great exercise,
and it's a wonderful bonding experience and it's very healthy
for them to do it. But when you have people
with little girls that believe, well, this is the next
Simone Biles, this is gonna be an Olympic champ. So
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we're really gonna put the pedal to the metal here.
You know, many kids make the Olympics. How many kids
make the Olympics? The gymnastics team at the Olympics, And
how many girls, little girls because their parents tell them
believe they're gonna make it? Any idea what that's like?
(16:29):
Do you know the investment parents make hoping their daughter
or son will get to the Olympics in gymnastics, it's
insane because here's the thing, here's the thing. You either
got it or you don't. And you don't want to
hear that as a parent. Every kid is good at something.
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They have unique special gifts, but that doesn't mean they're
good at everything. You have to put them in an
opportunity to succeed, not put them in a world where
you expect them to do something. What that will do
is harbor resentment down the road.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Absolutely absolutely, you know, you think about it. You're right
about the gymnastics, because they'll take these young girls and
they'll go to camps and after camp after camp and
have them up at five o'clock in the morning and
doing all these things, all these different things, and she
may be gifted at something else, but she never gets
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an opportunity to explore it because the parents are dialed
in so hard to fulfill their dreams. And that's really
what it's about. It's fulfilling their dream through their kid.
And it's such a disservice. And you see so many
kids get burnt out at a certain age where they
just don't want to do it or they rebel. You know,
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by the time they're teenagers, they're like, I'm done with this.
It's got to be because the kid wants it, and
he wants to do it, and he has a love
for it, and if he does, then you help him,
but you cannot push it on your kids, and that
so many parents do that. Again, everybody's good at something.
As a parent, you have to remember this.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
And if your kids are older, you already know, and
if your kids are younger, it's something to keep in mind.
Everybody's good at something, maybe not what you think they
should be good at, but it's truly not about you.
It's about them, and you have to put them in
a position where they can succeed at that, not what
you think is best. Because it's really simple. If you
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look at a group of kids, I'll tell you what,
it'll be pretty easy to pick out. Now, maybe there's
one outlier, yeah, but in any group, if you look
at a group of kids, you can pick out who
the athlete is. Maybe some kids are athletic, right, but
you can pick out the athlete. Yeah, you can pick
out the guy. Okay, you can do that. Your kid
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may not be that. Your kid may be athletic, but
maybe not that guy. And if you're honest with yourself,
you can tell that changes as they get older. Rodney,
you pointed out you might be great in eighth grade,
but now you get to high school and somebody's better Okay,
that's the way it works. But you see, even doing
what we do for a living in television, I used
to tell people because I would critique their audition tapes
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and help them, and they say, I want to be
on TV. And I look at them and I go,
You're never going to be on TV. That's never going
to happen. Maybe you can be a producer.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Maybe you can be an editor, maybe you can be
a writer, maybe you can be a creative type. You're
not going to be on TV. Well, I want to be,
but you're not going to And it doesn't matter how
much you want that.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
That's not going to happen for you. For whatever reason.
You don't have that. I'd like to be a lawyer.
You know what, I'm not going to be a lawyer.
I didn't study, I probably didn't have what it took
to do it.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
But I wanted to be a lawyer. That's not gonna
happen for me. I have to deal with that and
find what I'm good at. If you really look around
in specialized jobs, athletics being one of them, it's pretty
easy to see who's gonna make it and who's not.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Pretty easy. If your kid's on a youth team, a
baseball team, a football team, a basketball team. They're playing
Pop Warner football and a kid on the other team
scores nineteen touchdowns. I gotta be honest. I think that
kid's got a shot. Your kid takes the ball, picks
up three yards on four carries, I'm not so sure.
I'm not so sure. If you're playing youth baseball and
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the other team a guy hits four home runs, your
kid bunts, pops out, and walks. Gotta be honest, I'm
going with that other kid, the guy that hit four
home runs. Even as a kid. In basketball, if a
guy scores forty nine points and your kid misses a
foul shot because he plays six minutes and got fouled,
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I'm going with the guy with forty nine points. That
doesn't make your kid bad, that doesn't make them awful.
It means the other kid's better because they have gifts.
And it doesn't matter how much money you spend on coaching. Well,
I'm gonna bring a coach in here, and the first
thing he's gonna do is teach my kid how to
get taller. Really, that's what you're gonna do here here.
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And I got another coach. Okay, what's he gonna do.
Teach him to run a lot faster, he can help.
Fast people are fast people. Tall people are tall people.
Big people are big people. Pretty simple, Yeah, pretty easy.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
It is. It is and it's genetics. It's God given talent.
You know, they're the people that you mentioned. Fast people
are fast, tall people. If you're fast, you get up
out of bed at four o'clock in the morning and
you you're faster than everybody else without even thinking about it,
without even thinking about it, you are really just a gift.
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You can meet that other kid that's, you know, up
and up all night long, working on his start and
working on his finish and working on his stride and
working on everything. Let's call this kid. Oh he's sleeping. Oh,
get him up. Okay, let's go race. That kid beats
you a kid by a mile exactly. It's just it
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is we're all, like you said, everybody's got a talent.
Everyone does. There's a gift with everyone, and it is
a shame and it's it's it's evident more and more
with parents that don't allow their kids to figure out
what that gift is. They try to push that gift
on their kids. How about tennis. Let's look another one too,
(22:45):
Let's look at tennis. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
So in tennis, yeah, you can improve your game, there's
no question about it. As a kid, you can get
some coaching and you can become better. But if you
have a twelve year old kid serving the ball ninety
six miles an hour, let's call it seventy miles an hour.
Gotta be honest with you, I'm going with that kid.
(23:08):
I'm gonna go with that kid. Why because it looks
like they're a little better. They got a shot. They
have intangibles. They have intangibles that we can't teach. So
when one in six parents think they're raising the next
Lebron James, what they're really doing is investing an awful
lot of money on something that will never happen. Because,
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you know what, you can give a kid the best
coaching in the world, and Rodney, you just said it.
You can teach a kid to be a sprinter, give
them coaching, prepare them for high school meets with a
dream of being an Olympian, and then somebody walking by
the track one day he sees this kid practicing and
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his coach goes, hey, I'll show you how fast you are.
Let's race this guy. He doesn't know any thing. And
the guy goes me, yeah, okay, I'll walk out there.
And the guy didn't have track shoes, he's got nothing.
The other guy's in the blocks getting ready, and the
guys you're standing there and a coach blows the whistle
and goes, yells go. The kid comes out of the blocks.
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He's doing the fundamentals that he's been taught and how
to move his body and the other kids across the
finish line and he's had absolutely no training.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, that's life.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
It doesn't matter how much money you spent.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, yeah, you got it.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
You got it. You don't you.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Don't, Yeah you really? I mean it's it's and one
in six parents believe that their kid is going to
be a professional. That's a large number. That's a that's
a huge number of un percentage of parents that believe that.
It goes against everything that is that we have stats for.
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It doesn't. It doesn't add up because because when you
do the stats and you know, measuring up of what
kids who makes it and who doesn't, it's one of
one of one percent that make it to that level.
It's it's it's sad, it really is. But I don't
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think it's going to change for it. Oh no, we
got worse. Yeah, they get worse. It's not going to change. No, No,
I love this coming up. The Dodgers are ruining baseball.
I mean, look at the money they spend.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Just look at it. Okay, we are going to look
at it next.
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Speaker 1 (26:09):
Lets you.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a throwback Thursday. Rodney Pete, fred Rogan,
come on, let's go, Freddy.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Okay, let's do this. Rodney, come on, all right, I
thought you were going to add something here, but let's go. Yeah. So,
Dodger fans, are you sick and tired of hearing? Well,
the Dodgers spend the most money. That's the problem. If
the Dodgers didn't spend all this money, they wouldn't be
that good. They're ruining baseball, they're destroying the sport. Okay, well,
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let's see. Let's see how much money they really spend.
Let's look at it. Let's see. I believe Will Smith
makes about ten million a year. Okay, I think it's
ten million. So that makes him the top paid catcher
in baseball. Correct, Well, I don't think so. Fit Sean
(27:06):
Murphy makes fifteen million, So the Dodger catcher is not
the top paid catcher in the game.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
First base?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Talk about first base, Well, Freddy Freeman makes a lot
of money, a lot of money. Freddie Freeman is not
the top paid first baseman in baseball. Vlad Guerrero makes
forty million dollars a year. Let's go to second base.
Obviously it could be Tommy Edmund. Let's say it's Tommy Edmund.
(27:39):
I think he makes fifteen million.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Dollars a year. Wow, a lot of money. Of course
they're going to be the best. Jose L two Bay
makes thirty three million, he's the top.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Paid second baseman. Mm hmm, shortstop. Oh, you gotta have Mookie.
Mooky's got to be the highest paid for sure.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Francisco Lindor almost thirty three million. Yeah, third base, Well,
you know, Max Munsey, I think this year he makes ten.
Kevin right team option, he makes ten this year?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Okay, Well, still, that's a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
That's a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
The top pay third basement in baseball. Ladies and gentlemen,
you're Anthony Rendon. Anthony Rendon, Yes, makes thirty eight million dollars.
And Kevin you said he has two more years.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I believe it was one more, but I can double
check on that.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Does that mean he makes a million dollars per start?
Based on the starts he's had for the Angels, I
think he makes a little over a million, over a
million to start over, a little a little over given
the starts. Given the starts, he's a little over a
million a game.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Right left field, let's tail Hernandez, right, he makes twenty
two million. I think a lot of money. Rodney, that's
a lot of money. Yeah, Jordan Alvarez makes twenty six million,
almost twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Who's in center field? Oh it's piez.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Piz, young player. Okay, he doesn't make a whole lot
right now, but still he's got to be up there.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Right, Oh my god, he's got to be killing it
right right, Mike Twyout's the top paid center fielder in
baseball at thirty seven million dollars. Right, yeah, okay, let's
do right field. So in right field, you know that
(29:41):
was Michael Conforto whilst jury made seventeen million. Yeah all right,
what's that? Hey, that's not chump change.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Well let's put Michael Conforto in just common you know,
combination of him and say, kykke K key K plays
a lot. So you want to compare those two Adam,
those two Adam up together key K and Conforto?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
What's key K like seven million something like that.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Something like that ten seven under ten I think he is.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Okay, so let's say it's twenty four million. That's a
lot of money. Yeah, yeah, the top paid right fielders
won Soto sixty one million dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
H not one player on that list the Dodgers have
as the highest player and I know everything. Well, you
got the Chillhey, money is deferred and all that. Guys,
it's what you get paid right now. Yeah, that's the deal. Okay, Now, wait,
you know we made a mistake. Wait, we have to
consider the bullpen right ten Or Scott, Yes, seventeen million, right,
(30:39):
I think that's about what he makes. Yeah, yep, Josh
Hater makes nineteen million. Let's go starting pitching. Oh, Blake Snell,
they just signed him to a big deal or is
it Glass Now? No, Blake Snell sign a bigger deal?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I blieve than Glass, Blake Snell, Yamamoto's making over thirty.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Years, Yamamoto the three hundred and twenty five million dollars deal.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Right, and Blake Snell's making over thirty a year? Yeah,
Glass now is close to it. That's a lot of money.
Rodney Zach Wheeler makes forty two million dollars a year.
So if you look at the top paid person by position,
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I don't see the Dodgers in any of those. I
don't see their name anywhere the top paid by position,
I don't see the Dodgers. They're not paying anybody forty
two million dollars a year to pitch. They're not paying
their catcher fifteen million dollars, their first basement forty million dollars,
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their second baseman thirty three million dollars. They're left fielder
twenty seven million dollars, their center fielder thirty seven million.
You would think the.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Way people talk that dead Dodgers, they have the highest
paid player at every position.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yea, what is this?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Those got to be wrong.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
This can't be right. The Dodgers are the top paid
guide every position. If you listen to everybody, if you
just listen to everybody, this was just wrong because every
Dodger should be on this list. Funny none are.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah, yeah, isn't that incredible? I mean, just the whole
ruining baseball. They're just buying, buying teams. They would if
they were to your point that this list would be
loaded with Dodgers, are they? It would be? It would
be lists at least five of Dodgers would be on
(32:38):
the highest paid list for per position.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I don't see him on there, but I will tell
you this. I count two Mets. I count two Mets, yep,
I count two Astros Philly, two angels actually, and that's
where going to go, and that's where I was gonna go.
And two angels. So Ardie Moreno was not afraid to
(33:06):
spend money, just spent it horribly. Can we all agree?
Can we just take a second and congratulate Anthony Rendon?
So I think we need to trumpet this guy and
salute him. He is the ultimate workman, cop guy. He's
(33:26):
making thirty eight million dollars for getting up and breathing.
That's a pretty good gig. That's a good gig. He's
making thirty eight million dollars for saying, good morning, honey,
give me my money. What did you do today?
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Why?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I said good morning? Is that enough for you? What
did you do yesterday? And walked around a little bit,
made a few calls, went swimming. How you agreed?
Speaker 2 (33:55):
How you're gonna have to get Kevin in on this one?
How much of a bullet that the Dodgers dodge on
that one? Would you have him or Max Munsey play
your third baseman?
Speaker 5 (34:09):
I'd have Buddy Kennedy because at least he can actually play,
at least he's on the field.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
I'm paying this guy forty million dollars a year to
do nothing like it.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
And it feels like he shut it down when he
got that that deal, because didn't you believe that, you know,
the year that the Nationals won it all, he was
very instrumental on that. He and Juan Soto. Obviously, the
pitching was crazy with Strasburg and Scherzer and those guys
were lights out. But Soto was big, but n Dome
(34:39):
Dome was a killer during the playoffs. He got to
the Angels and got comfortable and just he can't get
on the field.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Kevin, did he get hurt in his first year? Yes,
his first.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Year was the COVID year. I think he played, if
not every game, the majority of them. It was his
second year that he got injured. So he had a hamstring,
shin injury, oblique hip injury, and all these things have
just accumulated over the last couple of years or last
few years throughout his contract.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I mean, you don't wish anybody along Kevin four years now.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah, so he got there. Twenty twenty was his first season,
the COVID year.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
So next year's his final year. Yes, you don't wish
anybody it will. You don't want anybody get hurt. But
I mean this is is he expected to play next
year or no? Is he even expected to play?
Speaker 5 (35:30):
I think it might be one of those. Even if
he's healthy enough to play, they probably just tell him
to stay home.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
God, what's the point.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
I used to have an old school coach, old school
coach that coached with the Lions, and when guys were
hurt that didn't play and just couldn't get on the field,
he would he would lou He was a loud talker too,
because he'd walk around the locker room with just loud
talk guys, and he was He's not very cute, fred So,
(35:59):
but he would think he was very good looking guy.
He'd always dressed up good and thought he looked good.
But he was not very cute anyway. He was an
old school coach. And the thing he would say to
the guys that would never play or couldn't get on
the field, it's like, damn, look at you making all
that money. At least Jesse James used a gun. He's
(36:22):
stealing without a gun man, What you doing.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
The coach?
Speaker 2 (36:27):
The coach would say that even Jesse James used the gun,
you out here stealing with no gun. You gotta walk
into that paycheck room backwards, the son. He scared to
show your face to pick up that chick. Oh my god,
(36:51):
I guess, I guess. The tale of this story is this. Besides,
Anthony Rundon has acquired the greatest contract in sports history,
getting paid to do nothing. None of the Dodgers of
the top paid at their position. None, Mets have two,
Astros have two, Angels have two. Wait a minute, does
(37:16):
Josh Hater.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Play for Houston?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
And even if you break down Mooki's deal, right, I
don't think Mooki would be the highest paid above Lindor. No. No, no,
he's got some of it deferred or whatever it is.
But he wouldn't be higher per year than Lindoor. No,
(37:38):
I don't think so. But now I'm sorry I have
to correct it because I just said it out loud.
The Astros have three because Josh Hater pitches for Houston.
That's right, they have three. And who would you rather
pay right now? Yamamoto or Zach Wheeler?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Who looks like a better deal now, So again, it
helps if you have money at the end of the day,
it's always highest spend it and next the danger of
(38:18):
those ten year contracts.
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and golfer two at Eagle Falls Golf Course at Fantasy
Springs Resort Casino. All right, let's just get into this
real quick. We talked about it a lot. I have
strong feelings about it. Long term contracts, twelve year deals,
thirteen year deals, ten year deals always point out that
there's going to be a point of diminishing returns and
when that point hits, suddenly it's not worth as much.
(40:14):
And it just depends when it hits it five years
in of a ten year deal. All right, Well, then
you've overpaid dramatically for five years. And what if you
got nothing out of it, what if it didn't lead
to anything.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Then you spend an awful lot of money, and you're
throwing bad money against good because obviously the player isn't
as worth as much. Later in the deal, it's Bryce
Harper and Dave Dombrowski, the Phillies general manager president general manager.
So Dombroski made a comment that Bryce Harper took exception
(40:52):
to I get it, said, well, he's not really an
elite player anymore. Probably never should have said that, by
the way.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah, we don't well yeah, he basically said, we don't
know if we can get to elite status anymore. Right
would you say that?
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Why would you say that about a guy that's one
of the faces of your if not the face of
your franchise, that plays you know, hurt plays as much
as he can play, move from outfield to first base,
so he could play when his arm was hurt. I mean,
why would you say that the guy that everybody believes
(41:26):
gives it everything he gots, He plays hard every single
time he's out there. Why would you even say that
about the guy like that. Well, you'd say that because
he's not earning his contract in their mind. Now, the
intangibles you pointed out, Rodney or true, I'd take Bryce
Harper tomorrow. I'd love to have him on the Dodgers.
Not at what he makes, but I'd love to have him.
(41:50):
And there's the danger there, it is there comes a
point and dombroskis saying that by the way that you
had a conversation, apparently things are moved over, but they
can never be smoothed over after that.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Ever.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Still, yeah, it could never happen. At what year is
Bryce Harper in that deal? Because he signed out what
a ten year deal with them? I thought it was
a thirteen thirteen year deal, that's right, because he Dodgers
were talking of talking about ten yere right, and he
signed a thirteen year deal. Is he in like year
five with them or something like that?
Speaker 5 (42:22):
His contract is up in twenty thirty one, and I
believe he has no opt.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Outs, right, So six years he's served at that deal,
right right, Yeah, that's what it would be, three hundred
million dollars whatever. If Ryce Harper would be a free
agent today, what would he warn out there? What would
he want or what would he get? What would he get?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
He gets a four year deal, four year deal, probably
thirty at least thirty. If you're pay him more, that's
your error. But okay, at least thirty, four year deal, thirty.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
My point is, as time goes on, that deal that
he signed becomes a bargain. At the end of the day,
he just continues to do what he did. He didn't
have a great year, but he's capable of having another
great year. So six years in, you know, if he's
(43:27):
a free agent, now, what would you have to pay
for him? And it matches the deal that he's already signed.
If not, he might be able to go out and
get more on the street. Guarantee you in two years
from now, three years from now, that's gonna look like
a bargain for them because price is gonna escalate like
they have. Yeah, but Mike Trout's deal looks like a bargain.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
For who.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
To the Angels, No, it doesn't. It looks like a
disaster is gonna look like a bargain. Oh, Toddy's deal
is gonna look like a bargain in five years old,
TONI will be different. Mike Trump making thirty seven million dollars,
that's a bargain. He was healthy a lot this year, though,
Fred what and.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
That's now the barometer of success. Well, at least you
can walk most of the year.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
It is.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
It is, Oh my god, that's the danger in this.
That's the danger. You give guys long term deals at
the end, they will come back to bite you. Dave
Dombrowski's comment shocking as it was pretty much doubted the
exclamation point on that. You give a guy a ten
(44:38):
year deal for all do you really think, honest to god,
that one Soto's deal is going to be profitable for
the Mets. That was awful, awful for them, and now
they're stuck with him for all those years.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Would say a thirteen year old deal too.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
He signed ten.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
I thought he's signed fifteen seven.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Sixty five fifteen.
Speaker 5 (45:07):
Now I will say he's making like well close to
forty five a year. Bryce Harper from a year to
year basis is actually not that bad. He's making an
average of about twenty five million a year.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yeah, that's not terrible at all.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
He's not breaking the bank. And if he was on
the market he was a free agent today, he'd make
upwards of thirty thirty five million dollars. He would get
that from somebody.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Yeah, a down year for him.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
Last year was one hundred and thirty one hits, twenty
seven home runs, seventy five RBI. There's there's players making
twenty five twenty eight million dollars who don't even have
that production.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Yeah, I would say it's.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Gonna give you for the next four years. Bryce Harper
is gonna give.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
That's a bargain, especially playing first base.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
If he's going to move first to first base full
time now nowhere and tear in the outfield, that one
that that deal might not age that poorly.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Well, Counser is a gm it's agent pretty poorly right now.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
He was speaking mainly from a monetary standpoint as opposed
to a physical standpoint. We just hope Bryce can get
to an elite level again. Or was he thinking or
you think in the back of his mindset, he's not
living up to his contract.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
That's what I think he meant. Really, that's what I
think he meant, because what's your definition of elite? What's
the defining term here? How are you going to define elite?
You make actions and you should perform like this that.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Makes you go back to his best years that he's
had and think that he can get to thirty plus
home runs and one hundred RBIs you don't think he's
not thinking he can ever get back there.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Again, he's questioning it.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, I mean again to Kevin's point, the guys with
his stats, he's right in the norm of what guys
are making for that. So I mean, what, you know what, Okay,
what do they do with Kyle Schwarber. Now there's a
good one, there's a good one. How many years do
(47:15):
you give him? Because that's what it comes down to.
How many years? Yeah, you can't. You can't go over
five years with him.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
I wouldn't give him that.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
I give him for it's a four year deal, but
it's gonna be pricey. He may make fifty a year.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
I doubt it. Doubt it.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
They are not able to Philly fans will erupt and
burn down that stadium. They let Kyle Schwarber go, Well,
take the matches away. He's slowing down d H. He's
a DH professional hitter. Yeah, I mean a professional hitter,
but of the best in the game and not nowhere
(47:57):
and tear playing the field. I think he last his
hitting last and can and can has longevity to it. Yeah,
at least a four year deal. I would do it him.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
If he could play the outfield, that would be the
guy I would ask the Dodgers to sign. If he
could play the outfield, that'd be my guy because he
can rake.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
You give him fifty million a year. No, that's what
he was gonna get.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
You're not gonna get it here.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Then he's not coming to be the Dodger.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Okay, enjoy godspeed. That's a luxury.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
No, not giving him fifty million a year? No, Okay.
If kylege Schwarber played a consistent, adequate right field and
that was his position, you wouldn't give him four year,
two hundred million dollar deal. No, five year, two hundred
million dollar deal. No, I wouldn't do it. Pay him
(48:57):
forty a year if he played a good right field,
solid right field for you, I don't think so. Because
that's what Kyle Tucker's about to get from somebody, and
he's going to get it for more years. Yes, yeah, No,
(49:20):
you take Kyle Tucker, you take Kyle Schwarber, same price,
just a few years, if I have to pick one
or the other. So you're saying, is Tucker going to
make forty years?
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Schwarbro make forty years? That's what you're saying. Yeah, and
now the years are the difference. Uh, Tucker gets ten
and Schwarber gets how many? Four? I would take? I
take Schwarver five? No, I wouldn't do it. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
You don't think Swarber's got five more years in him?
Speaker 1 (49:54):
We can't.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
I mean, these guys are going to be aar if
you wouldn't give anybody of more than five years deal? No, No,
you wouldn't mm hmm to get him. You wouldn't do it.
So you wouldn't have You wouldn't have signed Otani.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Wouldn't have signed You wouldn't have signed Yamamoto.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
I don't know if I would have done that.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
You wouldn't have signed Mooki.
Speaker 5 (50:16):
You wouldn't have signed Freddy Freeman, who signed a six
year contract year deal.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Yeah, I probably wouldn't have signed Mookie.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Then Blake Snell signed a six year deal too. I
thought five eight million dollars year anyway, So yeah, you
wouldn't have Mookie, you would have Otani, you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
That's right, five years for Snell.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
Yeah, I wouldn't have them.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Yeah right.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
It gave Smith ten right, Yeah, yeah, you gave him
ten Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
I'll tell you why we Dodgers would win if we
didn't have MOOKI we just put Buddy Kennedy.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
The Smith gave him a friendly deal. Smith, he did.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
He took it to your discount.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
That's true. Yeah, right, he said, I want to be here,
just pay me this. Yeah, upuying first base at some
point at the end of the.
Speaker 5 (51:04):
Career, Fred, you want to be like the old the
old Oakland A has just signed people to one two
year deals and yeah, bottom barrel.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Rebuild it and rebuild it every two years.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
I told you I think that should be the rule.
And then you guys laugh at me.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
No, no, because you're you're you're not you're not a
true Dodger. Then, because you don't want to win back
to back to back to back to back. Chamin, I
do know you don't.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
Because you're willing. You're not willing to do what it takes.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Yeah, I want Yamamoto here as long as he can
be here, because I think he can have another five
year run at least, and if and if the backside
of that, for four years he's not as dominant as
those first five years, so be it. He got me
five championships. I'm okay with that. All right, Well we'll
(51:50):
have to continue this later, Rodney, Yes, because here's my question.
Are these contracts front loaded? In other words, it's a
ten year deal. For five years you.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
Get paid paid, paid, and the last five you don't
paid as much. That would be a different way to
look at it, because then you could keep rebuilding the
team because you're not spending as much per player per year.
All right, when we come back, I told you the
last night Slikers game didn't mean anything.
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