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November 13, 2025 28 mins

Allen Sliwa hops on to talk Lakers after they were blown out in OKC last night. Its Lit features a response from Paul Skenes on the report that he wants to be traded to the Yankees and 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, we continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Pete at
five seventy l A Sports. Uh So the Lakers last night,
and okay, see we wondered yesterday was it a litmus
test of some sort? I said the game didn't matter,
and you know, it's interesting. I think the Lakers felt
the same way. The way they played didn't matter either.
They got hammered last night. So now let's bring on

(00:22):
Alan Sliwap, host of Hoops Talk with Alan Sliwa on YouTube. Alan,
thanks for coming.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
On, Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Okay, so I didn't think the game meant much last night.
Do you think the Lakers thought it meant much?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, I'll go with your theme. The way they the
way they play. It wasn't exactly Game seven of the
NBA Finals to the Lakers, but you know, to be honest,
I think for me, I was I was excited about
the game. I wanted to see what's this team look
like against the defending NBA champs, clearly the best team
in the NBA. And I don't even think it's close.

(00:58):
And we didn't have to get very full to kind
of know where the Lakers are compared to the upper echelon,
and I don't think there's any other categories. I don't
want to lump teams in with the Oklahoma City Thunder.
I think they're completely by themselves. And frankly, I think
if you watched the last couple of days of this Thunder,
I know they're off to a twelve and one start,
but they went to a twenty four hour period where
they were up thirty plus against the Golden State Warriors

(01:21):
and then twenty four hours later they're up thirty seven
against the Lakers. So the issue is not just the
Lakers versus the Thunder. I think it's the entire NBA.
And you know, unfortunately for the Lakers, you walked away
with nothing that you felt like they can build off
of in a game in November. And the good news,
I guess would say, is it's November, so you're not
determining anything this early in the season.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, So when does that point happen? Alan Like, when
is it after the All Star Break, when those games,
a game like this starts to matter and it's of
importance where people look towards. Is it when Lebron comes
back and with Lebron's in the mix, and everybody's healthy
and everybody's going. They're all playing together and it looks good.
When does that happen? Is it after they all start break?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I think it's more of the latter of what you mentioned.
I think for the Lakers, it's more about can we
see what they have when Lebron is back. I know
there's some other players, you know, you could say Gabe
Vince you really haven't got a chance to see, or
a new Theoo or Okay, some players obviously are not
the magnitude almost no players or the magnitude of Lebron.
I think the bigger question for the Lakers isn't essentially

(02:29):
a specific date or a time of the season. I
think it's getting a stretch where, hey, this is what
they look like for a month, and this is the
roster that you're probably going to have the rest of
the way. And if you're Rap Polenka and you're the
front office and you're trying to figure out, all, right,
what are some areas that we need by the time
February rolls around, I don't know if you can make
any of those decisions unless you have a lineup that

(02:52):
includes Lebron for thirty days. So again. They don't play
the Thunder again until after the trade deadline. I think
we've seen and unfortunately this road trip has not been
a good representation of the start of the season for
the Lakers. But I think we've seen some good things,
some good flashes, some good individual play, but collectively, I
don't think we've seen that yet.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Al here's the bottom line. Until Lebron's back, you know,
you just try to hang tight and stay close, do
some things that make you smile, build on some things
that you can keep going with. But you have no
idea what these guys are going to be like. You
really don't until Lebron gets back, and then you'll get
to see who they are. But right now, it's good
to give everybody a chance. They're more up than down.

(03:33):
That's great in this situation. You don't want to fall
really far behind. So I think it's a major win
given where they're at, and they just keep moving forward.
But you can't make any determinations about anything until Lebron's back.
Is that fair?

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, I think that part's fair. And I think listen,
if i'd have told you, and I feel like I've
done this a couple of times the last couple of days.
If I told you they're A and four through the
first twelve games. Ron hasn't played yet, I don't think
there's a Laker fan out there that wouldn't be like, yeah,
sounds good, I sign up for that. So I think
from that perspective, yes, I just don't think you could

(04:10):
compare the Lakers to the Thunder. And I don't think
many teams right now are looking at the Thunder and saying, Okay,
well we got to worry about the Thunder in November. Frankly,
I think they're so far and above better than everybody else.
Leave that to the front office, leave that to what
it might look like a couple months down the road.
But I think the A and fourth start, are there

(04:30):
some areas where you got some question mark, Sure, are
there some players that maybe got off to a good
start and you're going to question is this sustainable for
certain players to play like this through an eighty two
game stretch. That part's all fair. But I do agree
that until Lebron comes back, what.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Do you have?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
What do the Lakers have? Well, we'll find out when
Lebron does return and they get to play ten to
fifteen games with him. To have a better idea of
what exactly they're they're working with.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, all right, So when you look at the West,
and I haven't agree with you. I think it's okay
See and everybody else. It's amazing a team like that
that won its first title in a small market like
that has come back and has been this hungry and
this dominant. You know, it usually is reserved for teams
that have been there in a regular basis and one
championships like the Lakers, Golden State comeback. Hey, I want

(05:21):
to win three in a row or two in a row.
But they seem as hungry like last year they got
close and how they're playing like we gotta go, we
gotta go close the deal this year. But when you
look at the West, it's okay see. And who else
do you see at the upper echelon.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
I don't think Denver. You know, if I'm and this
will be, I'll be curious once the Lakers get a
chance to play Denver. But I do think Denver is
the second best team in the Western Conference, and then
I think it's it's pretty open after that. I mean,
if you want to make an argument that Houston is there,
I'm gonna have some I'm gonna I'm gonna wait on

(05:59):
San Antonio a little bit. I think San Antonio's got
off to a great start. The Aaron Fox is back
now as well. We know what web Binyama is, but
they're also young. Let's give them a second to kind
of develop. Lakers obviously already got a matchup against them.
Fox didn't playing that game. I think the West is
open outside of the top, and I know that kind
of sounds funny, but it's true. I think Minnesota had

(06:21):
some strengths and weaknesses. I think teams that we thought
would be right in the mix, there's some teams showing
we got nothing to do with this. I'm talking about
the Dallas Mavericks. The Clippers are off to a three
and eight start. Who would have predicted that. Obviously Bradley
beal out for the season. I think there's a handful
of teams that you pay attention to, but I think
they're all kind of in the same category. Golden State's

(06:44):
only a game over five hundred. I think there's you know,
we'll see if the Spurs how sustainable their early successes.
But I like the Lakers spot in the West. I
just think that. I don't know if you can compare
them to the top of the West, because I think
there's a gap between where the Lakers are where certainly
where the Thunder are, and maybe even if you want
to put Denver above the Lakers. But I'd like to

(07:05):
see those two go up against each other.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Ellen, how do you think Deandrey Agan's doing so far?

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Well?

Speaker 2 (07:11):
I mean, you know, I don't think you could have
asked for anything more through the first let's call it
eleven games of the season, and then I think yesterday
one of the things I was really looking forward to
was to see, Hey, he's got to go up now
against a really good team with a couple good big men. Now,
stylistically they played different Isaiah Hernstein chet Hoolm, getting completely
different type of players yesterday was really disappointing. You know,

(07:34):
you only take five shots in a game against the Thunder,
you only get five rebounds, I mean a six and
five stat line. And he wasn't the only one. I mean,
don't get me wrong, I go up and down the lineup.
I can complain about a lot of these players yesterday,
but a was was really that was a big disappointment.
I thought that was a good It was a good
measuring stick for him, and it was a good platform

(07:57):
for him to show that, hey, I'm I'm building more
momentum on this Lakers team. I thought he took a
major step back yesterday. So other than yesterday's game, I
thought he's been good for the Lakers, done exactly what
they were hoping for. But yesterday was disappointing.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Well, and do you think Luca now that he has
clearly I think stepped into the role of the face
and the leadership of the Lakers, and I think Lebron
is ready for that to move on. We'll see when
Bron comes back, because you know how egos go. But
how much do you think he's paying attention to the
Dallas situation and the fans reaction to Nico and him

(08:32):
being traded out of there, or has he just completely
moved on. Obviously, his body's in shape, he looks good,
is playing well. How much do you think that he
is paying attention at all to what's happening in Dallas.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
I think he has been very honest from the moment
he got traded to the Lakers, and you know, I
think that's refreshing, right. I think sometimes people get a
very standard answer and you're like that, I don't even
know if I believe what this guy is saying. I
think it's impossible for him not to pay a little
bit of attention. I think it's also probably for him

(09:05):
there's a little bit of Yeah, what did you think
was going to happen by trading me? And maybe everything
that has happened for him deep down inside there's a
little bit of like, I'm Luka doncic you you know,
there's a reason why everybody reacted the way they did
when the Lakers ended up getting Luca on what they

(09:26):
gave up in return. I would find it difficult that
he's not keeping an eye on it. I thought he
said the right things yesterday, you know, like, hey, look,
I'm just focused on the Lakers right now. But it's
too big of a storyline and he's obviously right in
the thick of it, and it will go down as
one of the you know, I think you look back

(09:47):
at NBA history, people are going to say, hey, where
were you when Luca got traded like that? That is
a moment. That's a moment that we all kind of
remember where we were, how we heard about the news.
I think it would be tough for Luca not to
be paying attention. I'm saying that he's spending all day
thinking about it, but sure on the back of his
mind he's curious what's going on in Dallas.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Alan Slawa, the host of Hoops Talk with Alan Sliwa
on YouTube. Thanks for coming on. Really appreciate the insight today.
Good stuff, Alan, good stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Thank you guys. I appreciate you guys having me on.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
All right, A lot is going on in the last
hour and a half, and Kevin will be along, will
get caught up on everything with its lit Next.

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Speaker 5 (10:42):
Hey oh yeah, hey, uh huh huh Gohea it go
here it for it, go hear it for you Thursday
throw back Thursday?

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Right he beat Fred Rogan. Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
They're giving out all these awards now, Fred, you know
all the baseball awards are coming out now. But yeah,
Paul's gains no surprise wins the Cy Young School Ball
wins it on the American League side. Uh yeah, I
was surprised that Dave Roberts weren't even wasn't even in
the mix with the manager.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Of the year who won it. I don't know, I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Maybe we'll find out and it's lit, Oh, okay, let's
find out.

Speaker 6 (11:35):
That would be Pat Murphy. I think we talked about
briefly yesterday on the show, and then Stephen Volde the
Guardians got it in the American League, and I think
the reason why usually Coach of the Year goes to
a team that kind of comes out of nowhere, the
Milwaukee Brewers, who are a good team, but a few
people expected to have the best record in Baseball or
in the National League at the very least Dave Roberts.
They're kind of a victim of the Dodger's own success.

(11:57):
So unless the Dodgers would have won like one hundred
already games or something, them winning ninety plus ninety three,
ninety five games, whatever it was and winning the division
people kind of expected. So he probably was not going
to be in the running for Manager of the Year
just for that reason, which.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Is crazy going back to last year and the way
he managed the team last year with all the injuries
to the to the to the starting pitching and had
to use the bullpen, and then this year's the opposite,
you know, having to make shift with the bullpen and
all the injuries that they had. Was was masterful by
by by Dave Robert too.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
DZ won it on the American League.

Speaker 6 (12:31):
Stephen Vote for the Guardians.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
I'm surprised that the Toronto guy didn't win it, or
Snyder or Snyder or the guy from Seattle didn't win it.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Well, you know, I thought Pat Murphy, now when you
think about it, was gonna win.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yeah. Yeah, best record I thought all year long, really,
from all Star break on, they were the best team
in baseball in terms of record wise.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah. In Cleveland, Stephen Vote, people really like him. Well,
they came from what fifteen down?

Speaker 6 (13:01):
Yeah, that's a huge comeback in the second half of
the season. Yeah, even last quarter of the season, let
alone second half. How hot they were to catch Detroit.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
They came back from way down to catch Detroit. You're right.

Speaker 6 (13:11):
So since you guys brought up Paul Skins, who of
course won the cy Young they did ask him last
night about the report. We talked about yesterday whether or
not the NJ dot com report about him wanting to
be traded to the Yankees, and he told the teammate.
Apparently the teammates said trade him now, because he's gonna
go to the Yankees. He doesn't want to be here.
So he said, what you expect him to say? He says,
I don't know where that report came from. My goal

(13:33):
is to win here in Pittsburgh. You know, Pittsburgh is
not supposed to win. That's the way that fans outside
of this city look at it. There are twenty nine
fan bases that expect us to lose. I want to
be part of the twenty six guys to change that.
So I guess the question is who do you believe
more the reporting from NJ dot com or Paul Skans
in this situation.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Not NBA dot com or MLB dot com or.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
Whatever it was was, l dot com, NJ dot Com.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Ye, yeah, I believe that. I'm gonna go with that. Uh,
what's he gonna say? Honestly, what's it gonna say? You know,
I thought about it, and that's true. I want the
hell out of here. I want to go to the Yankees. No,
he's not gonna say that. That'd be suicide in his market.
So yeah, I think he wants out. I think he's

(14:15):
probably frustrated. I think you get to a point, Rodney,
and you can talk about this. I did it. I'm
a pro. I've made it. Okay, Oh my god, I'm
pretty good. Wait a minute. I might be the best
at what I do as a pro, and I've worked
hard to get there. Okay, Now I have to say this,

(14:37):
what we suck? The first part of it is I
made it. I got there. Yeah, I know I'm great. Now, Okay,
that being said, we suck and I don't want to
suck makes sense?

Speaker 3 (14:52):
No, it does. It does because you're right. You know,
I don't care who you are. That first year you
become a big leaguer or professional at the highest level,
you want to you want to show and at least
show yourself that you belong and you can compete at
that level, which he has done. What is this his
third year there? Now, third year in the bigges? You

(15:13):
know two Cy youngs, so you know the individual accolades
he's already gotten. He's got two Cy Young Award winners.
People believe he's the best pitcher in baseball. He's got that.
What happens now, you know, for him is goes back
to when he was eight, nine, ten years old. It's like,
I want to win championships, you know, I get it.

(15:36):
I'm gonna make a lot of money in this league,
and as long as I pitch, I'm gonna get paid.
And that's not gonna be an issue. But I don't
care how much money you make. It is hard and tough,
and you got to be mentally strong to come to
work every day knowing that you've got no chance to

(15:57):
win a championship, because that's what it's at The court's
all about. I know people don't like to think that
athletes think that way when they're making millions and millions
of dollars, but deep down inside that is the most
important thing. Guys want to win. Guys want to be
a part of a winner. And I cannot see him
stand there any longer than he has to, because they

(16:18):
have not shown signs that hey, we're going to change
the culture. We're gonna change things here and become a winner.
Unless they get a new billionaire owner coming to town
say I don't care about money, I'm gonna make Pittsburgh
a winner, and we're gonna spend the money to do it.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Short of that, he's gone.

Speaker 6 (16:36):
Could potentially be a new billionaire owner down the road
here in San Diego. The Seidler family released the statement
this morning saying that they are going to begin the
process of evaluating their future with the Padre franchise, and
that could include them actually selling the team. This is
a year to the day of the passing of Peter Sidler,
who of course was championing all of these signings and

(16:57):
trying to make them chase down the Dodgers, and it
sounds as like his state the people who have followed
him don't necessarily have those same ambitions, and now they
look like they might be trying to sell the franchise
here in the near future.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah, what I think is happening is his wife and
kids are suing the brothers and trying to gain control
of the franchise. It's messy. Anytime anything like that happens,
you lose somebody. It's messy. And another part of this
story is they don't make the kind of money to
support what they're doing. They don't have a regional TV

(17:29):
network anymore. That's gone. So whatever they were getting isn't
as much. They drew three and a half million people,
but they're spending money to win. I mean, they have
a good size payroll, So I just don't think economically
it makes sense for those people to hold on to
the franchise and they can't spend like they are. I'll

(17:49):
tell you that. I mean, whatever version of the Padres
you see, that's going to change unless they change ownership,
because they simply don't have the money to do this anymore.
They had a hell of a run. They certainly made noise,
but they can't continue like this.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Yeah, what's their other business? I don't know what's their
business that they were in before they bought the Padres,
do we know?

Speaker 1 (18:09):
I don't know what the Seidler business was. But Kevin
correct me if I'm wrong. This is the second time
something like this has happened with that franchise.

Speaker 6 (18:19):
In the last maybe fifteen years or so that they've
been sold. If I believe something, they didn't. It's been
fairly recent.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
But the one of the former owners of the former
owner went through a divorce and in the separation of assets,
he had to sell the team.

Speaker 6 (18:37):
It sounds about right.

Speaker 7 (18:38):
The former owner, the one previous to the current ormer,
the one previous to them, or previous to that one,
John something with an M.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Moore's Okay, well I shouldn't be sitting here making stuff up,
but I know it's something like that.

Speaker 6 (18:56):
I will say Peter Siler was a hedge fund matter
private equity manager, so that's that's his his money came
from private equity.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
That's where he started, right, Yeah, you know, And that's
the thing I think with with ownership nowadays. And if
for you, if you're a professional franchise, if you don't
have the big brand and you know those dollars coming
in because you're you're the You're the Dodgers, you're the Giants,
or you're the you know, the Yankees, or even the

(19:25):
Mets with their deal outside of on the field with
TV and all that kind of stuff, or you're the
Raiders or the Cowboys, the Green Bay. You it's hard
to survive unless you know it can't be your primary
business or source of revenue because you're not gonna be
able to keep up. You know, Googenheim they managed what

(19:48):
nine hundred billion dollars around the world. I mean, they're
not hurting from money anytime soon. And if they ever
get to a point. And they also own the most
iconic baseball franch eyes outside of you know, a couple
with the Yankees in sports, so they're not hurting for
for any kind of money outside of the Dodgers, so

(20:09):
they can pump everything back into the team. Sang, Oh
it was John Moores two thousand and eight. Okay, that's
exactly what. So I had the guy's name.

Speaker 6 (20:19):
You're right, Yah, it's part of the divorce proceedings. He
had to sell the franchise. You're correct for it. Yes,
the Morris family back.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
In two thousand and eight.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
Right, wow, speaking of it, major, tell you.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
What you buy the padres. It's not good for your family.
That's what happens.

Speaker 6 (20:32):
Certainly doesn't seem like it, right.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
One guy gets divorced and somebody else is getting gat
sued by the late by the wife. It's bad. That's
a that's an attractive franchise though. Oh it's great.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
Yeah, you're only showing town. The charges are going.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah, only showing town. The stadium, the setting, the crowd
is great. What they get they got to get three
three million plus.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Right, three five? They did this year, Rodney, Yeah, three five.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
I mean, you know, short of the only thing that's missing,
right is that the TV contract they deal. But apparently,
you know, there's gonna be negotiations along those lines of
maybe some sharing. So it might be okay, but it's
an attractive franchise for somebody to go get.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
I don't know if this is accurate or not. I'm looking
it up. It says the Padres at the second highest
attendance this year behind the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
I would not surprise me.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
Yeah, the Dodgers, Padres, Yankees, and Phillies are the top
four in that order.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, but look at it like this their second in
attendance and they're not going to have the money to
do what they need to do because they don't have
a TV deal, Right, that's what gets them.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
What happens with that TV deal fair? Maybe that's another
conversation we have with the Major League Baseball and overall
as a TV deal situation as things move and evolve
in streaming and broadcast networks, and will they ever get
to the sharing part.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Oh, that's what they want to do. That's what Rob
Manford wants to do. The problem is, I'll tell you
some people aren't going to do that, or if they are,
they're going to get major concessions one La Chicago, New
York here, yeah, maybe Boston for yeah, yeah, oh no,
they own regional sports networks. Are you kidding me? When

(22:12):
I give him that money? You can't take our business
away from us unless you give us something. So that's
what we'll see.

Speaker 6 (22:20):
Scott Boris was at the GM meetings this week and
he said that all prop bets should be ended completely.
There shouldn't be two hundred dollars betting limits that Baseball
places on these wagers. Of course, this is in the
wake of the Emmanuel class A who just got arrested
by the way at JFK Airport earlier today and Luis Ortiz.
He says Major League Baseball needs to do away with
these prop bets completely with all of their partners. That way,

(22:41):
nobody can ever question whether or not if a pitch
slipped out of the guy's hand and hit the backstop,
if there is an issue, he just takes all of
the questions out of the equation. The problem is, I
feel at the toothpaste out of the tube at this point, right,
can you do that?

Speaker 1 (22:53):
No? No, you can't do that. By the way, he's right.
Oh give him that. He's right. He's right. Why can't
you do it? Why can't you run it back? There's
no way. There's too much money in this now, and
the leagues have a piece of it. No way, that's
not gonna happen. But it is story that it is
so easy.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
It's too easy for someone to be manipulated or someone
to get into a situation late in the game.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Now, well, here's the thing in states where you can't play.
In other words, in California, you can't bet on games.
It's prop bets. That's how you bet in California. I
don't know, unless you're playing Vegas or big money. Those
prop bets are I think what most people play.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah, and they go back to when I don't know
about you, but I remember high school going with buddies
to games and we used to bet hit her, hit her, strikeout,
or hit or walk right. We bet a dollar on
this particular batter, right. I mean it goes back to that,
just friendly wagers that we would do. And now it's
big money, and so I agree with you that it's

(24:01):
gonna be difficult, But man, it's a it and we
people many said it was a slippery slope when it
started and and allowed it to happen with the professional sports.
And now you know a guy that's hey, you're in
the ninth any man can't, can't, can't, can't let him,
can't let him get on base, or you know, maybe

(24:22):
let one guy get on base. How many people are
gonna get on base in the ninth Okay, maybe I'll
walk one guy. That's not gonna hurt anybody. We're up
five to nothing. That's not gonna hurt anybody.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
No, it's not gonna hurt anybody unless they figure out
you did it on purpose and it's gonna hurt you
and there goes your career.

Speaker 6 (24:41):
That's what's sliding up the headlines.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
To our show forres So we'll come back and put
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App Yeah, Yeah, Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan winding it down,
Let to throw back Thursday, Come on, Fred.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
All right. We started this today talking about kids in
youth sports and parents' expectations. One in six parents believe
their kid is going to be the next major leaguer,
the next Lebron James, the next Matthew Stafford, the next
Mookie Bets. We started with that today, and the more
I think about it, I think it's important to point

(25:55):
out that's about a ninety nine point nine percent chance
your kid's not going to be that. I think it's
a pretty safe bet your kid, as wonderful, precious and
special as they are, is not going to be Mookie Bets,
is not going to be Shoho Tani, not gonna be

(26:16):
because that's not the way this works. The way it
works is people are born with certain skills and it
doesn't matter how much we want them to do something different.
We all are who we are. And we talked about
the pressure parents put on their kids. I think that's
very real. I just think it's important as we wrap

(26:37):
it up today, rod need to kind of revisit that
for a second and remind people love your kids, live
for them, not through them and allow them to be
who they are, because that's all they can be. Yeah,
and if you do that, they will it will show
you something extraordinary. And you have to allow them because

(27:00):
at the end of the day, if you're a parent,
and you're any and you're a good parent, all you
want is your kids to be happy and successful. Whatever
that means in your family or in your eyes or
their kid's eyes, but you want them to be happy
and to enjoy what they're doing, enjoy life. When you

(27:21):
put that kind of pressure on a kid that doesn't
necessarily want it, it just will. It will affect them
for years to come. So explore everything everyone, Fred you
said it, We said it throughout the show. Every kid,
every human being has a gift somewhere. You just got
to find a way to unlock that gift. And it

(27:42):
may not be what you want. It may not be
the pathway in which you've envisioned for your child. That's
why you got to let the child determine what his
or her pathway is because at the end of the day,
they won't be happy unless they make the choice of
what they want to do. Well, said Ronnie. Welcome back,

(28:05):
we missed you. We appreciate Katie sitting in, but welcome back. Ronnie.
Good to have you and Kevin great work. So that's
it to our show force today. Petro's money next and
Rodney will get him tomorrow. Yes, sir

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