November 14, 2025 • 31 mins
Jack Harris from the LA Times hops on to talk about the Dodgers potentially looking to the trade market to improve the roster instead of doling out huge contracts in free agency. Its Lit features news on the USC-Notre Dame rivalry, Mookie Betts hosting the MLB awards show and more. Plus we discuss the big matchup this weekend between the Rams and Seahawks
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Okay, we continue on on our rainy Friday, Fred Rogan,
Rodney Peat on a five to seventy LA Sports just
a two hour program force today. So let's continue on
and welcome in our good friend from the LA Times.
Just back from Baseball's General Manager meetings. It is Jack Harris, jackod.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Afternoon to you.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
How are we doing doing it well?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Jack? How are you well?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I'm good. I'm glad that there's no more travel on
the schedule for at least a couple of weeks. That'll
be the next change of pace.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I was gonna say, Jackie, you're happy that everything is
slowed down. Man, You've been going, going, going, and then
obviously when the playoffs start to go crazy, but it
must be good to kind of just pause for a
little bit. But still with baseball, it's hot stove. Is
everything keep going right?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
It does not stop. That is true.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Okay, So what you learn at the GM meetings, you.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Know, I think the Dodgers, at least compared to the
last couple off seasons, are not going to be or
at least don't feel the need to be as aggressive
as they've been the last couple of years. Part of that,
a big part of that is you just look at
the core that they're returning. Almost everybody who played a
key role in the playoffs will be back outside of
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Key k Hernandez and Miguel Rojas, and even those guys
are still candidates to be resigned. They have a lot
of pitching depth. Obviously that the starting rotation is staffed.
There's some things they could do in the bullpen. They
could obviously use another outfielder. But even with a lot
of money coming out the books, they do clear more
than sixty million dollars in salary between Clayton Kershaw's retirement
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and Michael Confordo and Michael Kopek and Kirbyates all being
out of contract. So they will have options available and
if there are big deals that they like, they can
do them. But they also do feel good about the
group that they have, and I think we'll probably let
the market come to them a little bit more of
this option season, whether that's in free agency or probably
more so on the on the trade market side, and
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see what options they have to kind of round out
what they think is a pretty talented group to begin with.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Well, that being said, because it's a lot of talk
about right fielder, an outfielder that the Dodgers may go
after this offseason. That being said, what you just mentioned,
do they even make a run at Kyle Tucker or
do they let it play out and see, you know,
where the dust settles and then come in at the end.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, I think that's like one of those situations where
they'll kind of wait and see how his market shapes up.
You know, for a player like him, he's probably going
to get offers at ten plus years, four hundred to
five hundred million bucks and for a team that you know, obviously,
the Dodgers want to do everything they can to put
themselves in a position to go for a three PM
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next year, but they also do recognize they have an
aging core. They have I think it's five guys right
now who are already in their thirties who are potentially
under contract into the twenty thirties. I think there's a
little more hesitancy about adding another super long deal, especially
when they look at the big picture. They have the
top ran farm system in baseball, especially in the outfield.
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They have a lot of guys that we might see
next year, but definitely two or two or three years
down the line will be impact players. So when it
comes to somebody like Kyle Tucker, it puts them in
a situation where you know, there are other things that
they can do to make their team good next year
without taking on the long term risk. And if he's
going to be a guy that you know, requires ten
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plus years and another half billion dollars to sign, that's
the kind of situation where I just don't think you're
going to see them be as aggressive as they have
been with some other top free agents in the past
couple of years. But they'll be around on him. They'll
be around on other guys again if they find a
deal with value that they like, Like, they do have
money to spend, but they're not going to be going
out there and probably, you know, at least in Kyle
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Tucker's case, setting the market as the highest bidder or
anything like that.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
And that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I don't think they can sign a gout another ten
year deal personally, I just don't think they can given
the age of the club. You you know, a short
deal fine, but we've got to start moving younger guys
in here because a couple of years from now they're
going to need that. That being said, what if Cody
Bellinger is available on a five year deal.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
So he's an interesting guy. And what makes him interesting
is that he can play the outfield now that he
could eventually go to first base. Now I think of
reunion with the Dodgers, you know, at least the last
couple of years, because he's a guy who's been available
in the moved team since then. It was it was
not something that ever really felt super realistic. I do
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think if you look at the changes Bellinger's made, He's
cut way down on a strikeouts, He's become a really
good hitter against left handed pitching. He's the kind of
player that I think, you know, is just different in
the improvements he's made than where he was maybe two
or three years ago. And that positional flexibility does make
him probably a little bit more of a fit, especially
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because like you said, he's not going to be on
quite as long as a deal now. Again, even a
longer deal like that for big money. If if his
market goes crazy, which it could because of the improvements
he's made, it's another player that I'd be a little
surprised if they're out there, you know, setting the market
on him or anything like that. But I think he
could be just because of the flexibility he provides and
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the changes he's made as a hitter. Is an interesting
name that I will be curious to see, you know,
as his market starts to heat up, how involved they
and they are on him?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Yeah, yeah, And I totally agree with you. The fact
that he can play first base and play it at
a high level adds to his value, especially long term.
We talked about this with a little bit earlier about
the trade market, and the Dodgers have an abundance of pitchers,
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and when you talk about all of those guys coming back,
they're gonna be some odd men out, you know, whether
it be Immachian or whoever or else you want to
throw into the mix, and then you throw in the bullpen.
Would the Dodgers look at a trade scenario and possibly
trade either some of the guys that perform for him
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this year or some of the guys that are in
the pipeline to come up in the farm system to
get who do we throw off?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Right? We threw out Stephen.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Kwan something like that, Stephen Kuan, even though the Guardians
are you know, hard to trade.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
With, and Jack has put that out.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, yeah, I think the trade market is where you're
going to see them potentially line up a little bit
better on deals because of the factors you guys just mentioned.
They have a ton of pitching depths. There are a
ton of teams looking for pitching, and especially on this
year's market, there's going to be the potential of a
lot of guys who can play out here, whether it
is Stephen Kwan, you know, maybe a Brendan Donovan who's
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a utility guy who also longer terms give you flexibility.
The Boston Red Sox have a glot of outfielders that
they probably need to move.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
You look around the league, there's a lot of outfield options,
and the Dodgers are going to have as much trade
ammunition to take into those kinds of talks as probably
any other contending team. Now, the one thing they'll have
to balance there is that for all the pitching depth
that they do have, we all saw how hard they
had to use their rotation this year, and expecting Yamamoto
and Snell and Otani and Glass now to all be
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making twenty five or thirty starts is probably a little
bit unrealistic. So there is a little bit of a
balance there. They're going to have to strike as they
go through trade talks of you know, making sure they
still have enough pitching depth to get through the regular season,
because that is going to be something they have to
balance this year. But I think that they're going to
be active on any of those kind of bigger name players,
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especially in the outfield, that do become available this winter
and trade talks because it helps them both in the
short term getting guys who can be impact players but
also are you know, much more cost controlled and don't
have as much of the long term financial commitment, while
also preserving some of that long term flexibility.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
See I'm thinking in a deal for Kwan, so that's
going to cost him and anybody's going to try to
hold the Dodgers up. And we also know the Guardians
are tough to deal with, so we establish all that
right off the top. I'm thinking, Okay, give one one
young stud pitcher if that's what it takes. Let's say
it's tima Chian. I mean, I don't want him to go,
but let's say it's tima Chian, then a pretty good
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prospect and then one of those middle level prospects. Do
you think that's enough to get it done, Jack.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I think it could be or at least, as you know,
a probably realistic kind of starting place now. I think
with Kwan in particular, you know, the chances that he
gets moved are still unclear. That's still a contending team
and he's one of their best players. But yeah, I
think that they have the luxury that they have is
because of the depth of options they have, Because they
have a lot of you know, bigger trade chips even
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up to like an Imachian kind of guy. Because they
have a lot of options in their farm system, they're
going to be able to be involved in negotiations for
a lot of different levels of players and potential trades.
So those things usually take a little bit longer during
the Winner to really start to materialize, but they are
well positioned to be able to do a lot of
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different things when it comes to if there are guys
on the trade market they want to try to go after,
to try to put together pretty compelling packages that I
think will be tough for a lot of other teams
to match.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Hey, Jack, just a general question, man, what do you
you know during the World Series And there are a
lot of a lot of conversations out there about the
Dodgers and spending and all that kind of stuff. What
do you lie on some of these comments, and some
of them come from from guys that are your peers
and guys that are in the in the know that
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Dodgers are ruining baseball.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I mean, what do you lie on all of that?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I think it's to say they're ruining baseball is the
wrong way to frame it. I'd say, you know, the
success I think has been good for the sport. I
think you see that in the television ratings. I think
you see it in just the way generally baseball has
re emerged as a more prominent game in the sports scene.
You look at this World Series. It was probably one
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of the best World Series that's ever been played. It
was probably also one of the most kind of followed
that we've seen in recent years. And the other thing
about that World Series that's worth pointing out is, you know,
the Doctors probably shouldn't have won it. And that's where
I think the ruining baseball conversation. It's not like they're
this invincible team that nobody can be so. Toronto Blue
Jays were a last place team a year ago that
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Ben spent some money. Now, they were fit in payroll
this year, but they spent at a level that you know,
probably half the league could do on a regular basis,
and most of the league could do if they want
to pick their spot, really go for it in the
particular season or two. So just the way that baseball is,
the unpredictability, the randomness of it, it's really hard to
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ruin the sport and the way I think it gets framed. Now, Look,
the Dodgers do spend a lot more money than any
other team, or spending at levels the sport has never seen.
They're always going to be in the playoffs because of it.
You know, I think the big difference between the way
baseball is structured and some other sports is it's probably
just as hard to win titles in baseball, even when
you're spending at a level like the Dodgers are as
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it is in other sports. But you don't have to
go through those down periods, those rebuilding years, those times
where like you really have to clear money for salary
cap purposes and maybe miss the playoffs for a year
or two in reset. But to say that they're ruining
baseball or that their talent level is so far beyond
what any other team can match. Then you just got
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to look at this postseason. The Philadelphia Affilies were a
couple of plays away from probably winning that series. The
Toronto Blue Jays had every chance to win that World
Series if they don't make a couple key mistakes late,
the Dodgers don't make a couple of heroic plays late,
And then I think just generally big picture, and the Dodgers'
success has been good for the standing of the sport.
So I understand where some of the criticisms come from.
And I do think that the financial and balances, especially
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when you look at some of the teams at the
bottom of the league, are a problem. But it's probably
not the Dodgers' fault, right Like, there's a lot of
reasons that more teams aren't spending more money. It's not
like the Dodgers are this invincible club that nobody can catch.
There are probably some things that you can fix in
the way that the financial structure of the sport is run.
But what the Dodgers have done is just take advantage
of the rules that have been in place, have reinvested
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money back into their team, and are doing the kinds
of things that is a big market club with star players.
It's probably good for the overall help of the sport.
Even if you know, I can understand the frustration if
you're a smaller market fan who goes, well, we'll never
have a team like that.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Jack, Thanks, I get some rest. I mean, what have
you done till December?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Now, we'll see, we'll see this with this offseason has
but yeah, hopefully hopefully it's a little bit slower for
a couple of weeks. That would be nice.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
All right, get some rest. Thanks so much. We'll talk
to you soon.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
All right, our buddy Jack Harris.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
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it'll be a huge matchup in the SEC. Eleven's ranked
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(13:25):
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Speaker 5 (13:31):
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Speaker 4 (13:45):
Let's bring it back Rodney P. Fred Rogan on a Friday,
A rainy Friday, makes here. You're being safe out there
as you get ready for the weekend. It'll be an
interesting weekend here in La Fred because of the rain.
USC plays Iowa, and.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's going to be more.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Favorable to Iowa Fred right because the ball Yeah, and
this rain rainy Saturday that's gonna happen tomorrow. Iowa played
Oregon in a tough ball game. Last weekend in Iowa
is raining and they played Oregon down to the wire.
So hopefully this doesn't affect my trojan as much as possible. Well,
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this is a big weekend for them. I mean, they
shot it. This is it. Yeah, this is the one.
I mean, look, they've they've got They've still got to
go to Oregon, but this is the one where they
got to have They got to have this. This is
a this is a team that is really good. And
the narrative, as you know, continues to be can they
be physical. Iowa runs the football very well, as good
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as anybody in the Big Ten, and USC obviously can
score points, but I always showed that they can slow
down a potent offense. They slowed down Oregon in Iowan. Yes,
that was rainy, but that's what the condition is going
to be tomorrow. And so this is a big, big test,
big game, big test for USC tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, and another point for USC if they really think
they're legit, there's no wiggle room now. No, every day
is a critical game.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah, and they can't look ahead to oh, we got
Oregon next week up there, which is gonna be the
determining factor whether they get in or not. But Oregon's
still on the ropes too, whether they get in or not.
You know, they haven't been the juggernaut. They lost, you know,
obviously lost to Indiana. But for USC, this this is
a this is a huge game for them, huge game
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for them. All Right, Kevin, let's get everybody caught up on.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Stories lighting up their sports headliners.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Yeah, I'll get into some statement that Jen Cohen set
out earlier, but just on that subject matter really for
USC and Oregon. Both either of them ends up winning
out and if things hold, neither of them are going
to be in the Big Ten title game. That's Ohio
State in Indiana, but they're probably gonna get in as
an at large. So whether it's Oregon or USC, one
of them finds a way to win their last three games,
they're gonna get in. So, as you guys mentioned, this
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is huge for USC if they can find a way
to be Iowa this weekend, Oregon and then obviously Ucla
to close the season. So Jen Cohen, the ad at USC,
always puts out this State of Troy update talking about
the athletic department things that are happening, and one thing
that stood out in today's release Rodney was her talking
about the Notre Dame situation. Now, she didn't bring up
Notre Dame specifically in it, but she did talk about
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non conference scheduling, and she says what USC basically wants
set up is what a lot of other big team
teams have. They play all of their non conference games
on the front end of their schedule, so once they
get in the conference play, they're not having to worry
about traveling to South Bend in October or somewhere else.
In October, she signed at Ohio State, who won the
national championship last year. She said they did not play
a non conference game after Week three, and that is
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the same thing that USC is seeking with their scheduling,
which of course is a big no no for Notre Dame,
which is why they're currently at this impass right now.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Yeah, now, listen, I know people are going to say
you're biased, but I agree with that. I agree with that.
I know when it was, you know, back in the
day when that Robber restarted, it was, you know, they're
playing ten games, eleven games, it's tops a season. And
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in fact, USC had to change the game because it
was at the end of the season for both teams,
whether they played out here or played back there. And
I believe it was John McKay or Howard Jones, one
of the coaches that's decided like it's an unfair advantage
for us to go back to Notre.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Dame in late November.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
And they come out here to California in late November
when we play at home, so change it to mid October.
They did that, But I agree with most even Union
in Alabama all the other big time schools. They'll get
all those non conferences out of the way early in
the season so you can recover. If you play a
game late in the season and you're like USC, you
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got one loss or two loss and you got to
play a tough game on the road back at Notre
Dame in late October early November, then it can knock
you out of the playoff picture. So that the scope
and scale of where college football is now is conducive
to making that game either the first or second game
of the season, but not make it at the mid
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or three quarters into into the season. I always hated
playing Notre Dame after we played UCLA when I was
a player there, because UCLA is such a build up
to UCLA, and there were certain years we played Ucla
to decide who's going to win the Pac ten or
Pac twelve, and then you got to come back and
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play Notre Dame the next weekend. Not as an excuse,
but it was a tough thing because you wanted to
go to the Rose Bowl, and oftentimes USC UCLA game
was for the Rose Bowl, and so there was like
a relief effort and then you had to go play
Notre Dame the next weekend, so I get whether they're
trying to change it.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Well, so here's a question, why wouldn't Notre Dame want that? Why? Yeah,
that's the question. It makes sense.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
I mean, from I know the narrative been spent in
a USC doesn't want to play Notre Dame anymore, But
that's not the case. They just want to play it
early in the year, within the first three games. So
I don't know why Notre Dame doesn't want to do that,
Maybe because I think they're I don't know if they're
contracted to Michigan too, because that's a big Notre Dame.
Michigan is a big game too that they play early
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in the year. Regardless of what where it's played, they
play it early in the year, and USC wants the
same thing. So maybe Notre Dame doesn't want to play
those tough matchups that usually could be a tough matchup
with Michigan and USC in the first three or four
games of the season.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Gotta be it. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
So what's been the rage in recent years when it
comes to these major sports is these award shows. The
NFL has their award show that they do at the
end of their season Major League Baseball hat theirs last night,
as a matter of fact, and Mookie Betts actually co
hosted it with comedian Roy Wood Jr. And there's a
funny clip here, at least funny to me, maybe not
funny to the guys that were making fun of. Gary
Sheffield was in attendance, as was Tommy Famine, Amir Garrett,
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and those guys took some some shots. It was at
their expense from Rory Wood and Mookie Betts. So let's
play a little bit of their monologue talking about these
guys old school baseball. It sounded like mechanic named Dave Parker,
like oil can Gary Scheff, Gary.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Welcome on down to Sheffield. Auto bout it, pump the hood.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Let me look at that.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Check your bell real quick. Gary Sheffield here today. Oh
my god, I don't point to don't punt. You know what, Gary,
Gary is a good dude. He's a great ambassador for
all the young guys. Not think you forgive me. I
think so. But you know who won't who?
Speaker 5 (20:57):
That?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Tommy Fam. He's a man if by scared of no fam.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
I saw Tommy Fam the other day.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Tommy Fam here too.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Do you know what's crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Do you know what's still what makes it worse worse?
He brought a mere Garrett, amir Garrett.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Is that a mere Garrett, a mirror, a mere Garrett,
A mere Garrett talking.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
About the Geart that's the one that tried to fight
all the Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
He swung on all of them by himself at the
same time.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Let's just let's just move on.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Let think that you move on.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Now.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
The funniest part of it, they show all three of
those guys are all sitting clustered together. Not a single
one of them cracked a smile the entire time. Tommy
fam looked like he wants to jump up and smack
both of them.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
It was playing. It was playing. It probably was righting,
just like they do at the Oscar sometimes.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
That's all with McConaughey and Woody Harrelson and those guys
or whatever. They let him know they're gonna do this,
and then they get a make sure, hey give me
a dead, dead pan face and when we do this,
and they and they do it, so they were clear
that they were going to do this. I because I
know I know Cephville too. He would have went with it.
If it was like off the cuff. But you know
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who knows what Tommy fan. Tommy fan never know what
he's thinking. Well, I'm thinking it certainly.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I take fighting during the off season so I can
fight during the season.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
He says, I trained a fight in the off season
just in case I need to during the season.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Yes, yes, yeah, he's a little off Tomy. He's the
one to hit Jock Peterson because Jock teased him about
about fantasy football.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
I think Jock was laid on his fantasy football dudes
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, yeah, one of those things, or the Giants.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I guess it was a team fantasy thing too, and
the Giants came in like fourth.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
It was like four four teams that were.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Involved in it, like as a competition, and the Giants
were pulling up the rear, and Jock made a joke
and he actually took a sucker punch of jobs.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
We were talking about Edwin Diaz is a free agent
and probably the best reliever out there on the free
agent market. We kind of kicked around whether or not
the Dodgers will be interested in him, and most importantly,
what kind of contract is he looking for. He did
an interview with news Day yesterday. He says as of now,
it's fifty to fifty. As to whether or not he
will return to the Mets, he says he loves New York,
but he wants to get the best deal for his family.
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He also says he wants to win a ring wherever
he goes, but it sounds like money is absolutely a
giant priority for him, and a lot of times you
obviously can't have it both ways. The team that's willing
to pay you the most might not give you a
great opportunity to be able to win. So if a
big time contract in payday is what he's looking for,
I feel that the Dodgers are probably not going to
be a likely destination for him.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Well, at least he was honest. Yeah give him that. Yeah, Yeah,
it's fifty to fifty.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
So he said the big time contract's more important than
the championship.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
He didn't say one was more important than the other,
but he's certainly prioritizing both. He says, I want to
get the best deal for my family, but I also
want to win a ring.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, mutually exclusive.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
So yeah, he's uh quanky? Is that Quinkie? When he
played for the Dodgers and they asked him why he
signed with Arizona.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
It was pretty simple. They paid me the most money.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Done you paying me the most uncle to play there? Okay,
at least we know the ballpark now. And I don't
know if that's the best negotiating ploy to take with
a match. Whoever pays me the most wins tell.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
You that that's probably a great one because they pay everybody,
don't they.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Well, I mean I don't.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
I don't fault him for saying that. Look, I want
to I want to get the best deal for my family.
And and also one away like it being that if
you're close and you're a contender, then I will consider
you as opposed to if we're far apart and you
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know you're one hundred million dollars away from the next team,
and then they may not be a contender, and I
gotta go with the one hundred million dollar team. But if
it's close, I'm gonna pick the team that's got a
chance to win. So if the Mets are close to
you know, the throwing a team out there, the A's,
the A's go after him, which they never would because
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they don't spend the money. But just say the A's
are a team that wants the closer and it's close
with Edwin Diaz, He's gonna stay with the Mets. Even
if it's five millions dollars off or seven millions, you know,
dollars off.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
He'll stay with the Mets. I get what he's saying.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Yeah, makes makes total sense to me. The National League
got MVP race I guess was somewhat close between Otani
and Schwarbert. You probably wouldn't have been surprised that had
gone either way. Obviously we know that Oltani won. Even
tighter was the Ale MVP race that ended up going
to Aaron Judge over cal Rally. Rally seventh player in
history to hit sixty plus home runs in a season.
But Aaron Judge won the batting title while also hitting
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fifty five runs, something that hasn't been done either. Do
you guys have an issue with Aaron Judge winning MVP
over cal Rally?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
He won the batting title in hit fifty five homers. Yeah,
he wins. Yeah, well, why were we discussing it? He wins.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Some people would say that cal Raley played the toughest
defensive position on the field, that he played pretty much
every single game, and a switch hitter and did all that,
so they they kind of hold him high regard when
it comes to that.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Yeah, but still you can't deny a guy that hits
over three hundred hits for average and hits fifty five
home runs. I mean it just it's undeniable. As much
as a great season that cal Rally had, I still think.
I mean, he he hit what to sixty seven?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I think it was his average, and I think it
was to forty seven. Actually forty seven was his average.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
And so in the day and age where average, you know,
is something that people think about in the nineties and eighties,
Aaron Judge, who was looked upon it as a home
run hitter, hit for average as well as hit fifty
five home runs. So it's it's hard to argue with that.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Look at it like this, Okay, you can pick one
the guy that hit sixty homers or the guy that
won the batting Crown and hit fifty five.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Who do you pick?
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Well, also consider the body of work too. It's no
disrespect to cal Rally, but Aaron Judge, this is kind
of what he does. He's taken it to a next
level this year. But he's one of the best players
in the sport.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Yeah, but then you could make the outlier that cal
Raley and and the catcher the story. Everything was great
about cal Raley this year. It was great, And had
Aaron Judge stayed hurt or there was no Aaron Judge,
he would have won it gone away. But Aaron Judge.
It's same thing with Otani. Shoorber had one of had
his best year. But if Otani doesn't pitch. If Otani
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doesn't pitch this year, I think Schwarber wins it.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Okay, So if Swarber pitched, he would have won it. It
is what it is, No, I know, it is what
it is saying.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
If you can't, you got to stack up the totality
which we're talking about with the average.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
With Aaron Judge, you can't just leave that out.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
You know, home runs, okay, cal Riley beat him in
home runs, but average and other other categories.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Aaron Judge was ahead of him.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
The main thing with Otani if you just put him
as DH versus the eighth like it had been the
year before, where Otani did not pitch, and they go
head to head, the problem is O'tani went fifty to fifty,
so he has to win it on that merit this
year he pitchs, so he has to win it on
that merit.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Say, but Kevin, you made the point. You know, Rawley's
kind of an outlier. Aaron Judge does it every year.
But that being said, I think Raleigh would actually have
a leg up if his year was so spectacular because
Aaron Judge does do it year in and year out.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
But the problem for Roleige of Michael Jordan Fatigue.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Yeah, voter for Tig, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
So the problem is that Raleigh just didn't hit for average.
Right now, if Aaron Judge.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Okay, well let's go this way. Aaron Judge at two
forty this year, he just wins. Yeah, is that simple?
Speaker 6 (29:11):
The novelty usually wins out in situations like this, which
is what he would be. And by the way, I
gave him two bonus home runs. He only hit fifty
three and fifty five, So excuse me on that.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Well, that changes my think, it sure does. That's what
lighting up the headlines two hours. So we will come
back and conclude.
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Speaker 2 (30:01):
Oh yeah, come on back, Freddy, come on back. Let's
wrap it up right now.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Let's go all right, Rams minus three against the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
It's so far on Sunday. This is a big game. Oh,
it's a big game.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yes, yeah, two of the top teams in football will
battle it out.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
How about to come back of Sam Donald?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Fred how about that when they rowed him off when
he was with the Jets, and now he had a resurrection.
Kyle Shanahan believed him and believed in him, and San
Francisco went to Minnesota, had a great year and now
he's uh, he's got the helm in Seattle as the
guy and just really is being the Sam Donald everybody
thought he was going to be when he left that seat.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
And the thing is, and you said it so many times,
you go to the wrong team. Even if you're good,
you look pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yes, where you land Cooper Cup a chance to say
hello to him? Once again.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Yeah, Cooper Cup coming back, you gonna have a little
incentive and something to say about this game.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Absolutely, after observing what is going on this year, the
Rams probably made the right move and Cooper Cup had
a chance somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Yeah, you know, it comes a time where you got
to move on, and it was I think it works
out for both both the team and the player in
this situation.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
With Cooper Cup. You know, his salary was so.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
High, but the Rams are able to use that and
move on and Cooper Cup found a new home to
finish out his career, and I think it's working out
for both parties.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
All right, Uh, Ronnie, thank you for today. Really appreciate it.
Great work, Kevin, outstanding work as well. Truly appreciate your efforts. Everybody,
be safe, try to stay dry. And Rodney a one
hour show for us Monday, So I'll talk to you
then right home, let's go
Okay, we continue on on our rainy Friday, Fred Rogan,
Rodney Peat on a five to seventy LA Sports just
a two hour program force today. So let's continue on
and welcome in our good friend from the LA Times.
Just back from Baseball's General Manager meetings. It is Jack Harris, jackod.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Afternoon to you.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
How are we doing doing it well?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Jack? How are you well?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I'm good. I'm glad that there's no more travel on
the schedule for at least a couple of weeks. That'll
be the next change of pace.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I was gonna say, Jackie, you're happy that everything is
slowed down. Man, You've been going, going, going, and then
obviously when the playoffs start to go crazy, but it
must be good to kind of just pause for a
little bit. But still with baseball, it's hot stove. Is
everything keep going right?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
It does not stop. That is true.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Okay, So what you learn at the GM meetings, you.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Know, I think the Dodgers, at least compared to the
last couple off seasons, are not going to be or
at least don't feel the need to be as aggressive
as they've been the last couple of years. Part of that,
a big part of that is you just look at
the core that they're returning. Almost everybody who played a
key role in the playoffs will be back outside of
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Key k Hernandez and Miguel Rojas, and even those guys
are still candidates to be resigned. They have a lot
of pitching depth. Obviously that the starting rotation is staffed.
There's some things they could do in the bullpen. They
could obviously use another outfielder. But even with a lot
of money coming out the books, they do clear more
than sixty million dollars in salary between Clayton Kershaw's retirement
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and Michael Confordo and Michael Kopek and Kirbyates all being
out of contract. So they will have options available and
if there are big deals that they like, they can
do them. But they also do feel good about the
group that they have, and I think we'll probably let
the market come to them a little bit more of
this option season, whether that's in free agency or probably
more so on the on the trade market side, and
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see what options they have to kind of round out
what they think is a pretty talented group to begin with.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Well, that being said, because it's a lot of talk
about right fielder, an outfielder that the Dodgers may go
after this offseason. That being said, what you just mentioned,
do they even make a run at Kyle Tucker or
do they let it play out and see, you know,
where the dust settles and then come in at the end.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, I think that's like one of those situations where
they'll kind of wait and see how his market shapes up.
You know, for a player like him, he's probably going
to get offers at ten plus years, four hundred to
five hundred million bucks and for a team that you know, obviously,
the Dodgers want to do everything they can to put
themselves in a position to go for a three PM
(02:51):
next year, but they also do recognize they have an
aging core. They have I think it's five guys right
now who are already in their thirties who are potentially
under contract into the twenty thirties. I think there's a
little more hesitancy about adding another super long deal, especially
when they look at the big picture. They have the
top ran farm system in baseball, especially in the outfield.
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They have a lot of guys that we might see
next year, but definitely two or two or three years
down the line will be impact players. So when it
comes to somebody like Kyle Tucker, it puts them in
a situation where you know, there are other things that
they can do to make their team good next year
without taking on the long term risk. And if he's
going to be a guy that you know, requires ten
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plus years and another half billion dollars to sign, that's
the kind of situation where I just don't think you're
going to see them be as aggressive as they have
been with some other top free agents in the past
couple of years. But they'll be around on him. They'll
be around on other guys again if they find a
deal with value that they like, Like, they do have
money to spend, but they're not going to be going
out there and probably, you know, at least in Kyle
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Tucker's case, setting the market as the highest bidder or
anything like that.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
And that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I don't think they can sign a gout another ten
year deal personally, I just don't think they can given
the age of the club. You you know, a short
deal fine, but we've got to start moving younger guys
in here because a couple of years from now they're
going to need that. That being said, what if Cody
Bellinger is available on a five year deal.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
So he's an interesting guy. And what makes him interesting
is that he can play the outfield now that he
could eventually go to first base. Now I think of
reunion with the Dodgers, you know, at least the last
couple of years, because he's a guy who's been available
in the moved team since then. It was it was
not something that ever really felt super realistic. I do
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think if you look at the changes Bellinger's made, He's
cut way down on a strikeouts, He's become a really
good hitter against left handed pitching. He's the kind of
player that I think, you know, is just different in
the improvements he's made than where he was maybe two
or three years ago. And that positional flexibility does make
him probably a little bit more of a fit, especially
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because like you said, he's not going to be on
quite as long as a deal now. Again, even a
longer deal like that for big money. If if his
market goes crazy, which it could because of the improvements
he's made, it's another player that I'd be a little
surprised if they're out there, you know, setting the market
on him or anything like that. But I think he
could be just because of the flexibility he provides and
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the changes he's made as a hitter. Is an interesting
name that I will be curious to see, you know,
as his market starts to heat up, how involved they
and they are on him?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Yeah, yeah, And I totally agree with you. The fact
that he can play first base and play it at
a high level adds to his value, especially long term.
We talked about this with a little bit earlier about
the trade market, and the Dodgers have an abundance of pitchers,
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and when you talk about all of those guys coming back,
they're gonna be some odd men out, you know, whether
it be Immachian or whoever or else you want to
throw into the mix, and then you throw in the bullpen.
Would the Dodgers look at a trade scenario and possibly
trade either some of the guys that perform for him
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this year or some of the guys that are in
the pipeline to come up in the farm system to
get who do we throw off?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Right? We threw out Stephen.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Kwan something like that, Stephen Kuan, even though the Guardians
are you know, hard to trade.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
With, and Jack has put that out.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, yeah, I think the trade market is where you're
going to see them potentially line up a little bit
better on deals because of the factors you guys just mentioned.
They have a ton of pitching depths. There are a
ton of teams looking for pitching, and especially on this
year's market, there's going to be the potential of a
lot of guys who can play out here, whether it
is Stephen Kwan, you know, maybe a Brendan Donovan who's
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a utility guy who also longer terms give you flexibility.
The Boston Red Sox have a glot of outfielders that
they probably need to move.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
You look around the league, there's a lot of outfield options,
and the Dodgers are going to have as much trade
ammunition to take into those kinds of talks as probably
any other contending team. Now, the one thing they'll have
to balance there is that for all the pitching depth
that they do have, we all saw how hard they
had to use their rotation this year, and expecting Yamamoto
and Snell and Otani and Glass now to all be
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making twenty five or thirty starts is probably a little
bit unrealistic. So there is a little bit of a
balance there. They're going to have to strike as they
go through trade talks of you know, making sure they
still have enough pitching depth to get through the regular season,
because that is going to be something they have to
balance this year. But I think that they're going to
be active on any of those kind of bigger name players,
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especially in the outfield, that do become available this winter
and trade talks because it helps them both in the
short term getting guys who can be impact players but
also are you know, much more cost controlled and don't
have as much of the long term financial commitment, while
also preserving some of that long term flexibility.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
See I'm thinking in a deal for Kwan, so that's
going to cost him and anybody's going to try to
hold the Dodgers up. And we also know the Guardians
are tough to deal with, so we establish all that
right off the top. I'm thinking, Okay, give one one
young stud pitcher if that's what it takes. Let's say
it's tima Chian. I mean, I don't want him to go,
but let's say it's tima Chian, then a pretty good
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prospect and then one of those middle level prospects. Do
you think that's enough to get it done, Jack.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I think it could be or at least, as you know,
a probably realistic kind of starting place now. I think
with Kwan in particular, you know, the chances that he
gets moved are still unclear. That's still a contending team
and he's one of their best players. But yeah, I
think that they have the luxury that they have is
because of the depth of options they have, Because they
have a lot of you know, bigger trade chips even
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up to like an Imachian kind of guy. Because they
have a lot of options in their farm system, they're
going to be able to be involved in negotiations for
a lot of different levels of players and potential trades.
So those things usually take a little bit longer during
the Winner to really start to materialize, but they are
well positioned to be able to do a lot of
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different things when it comes to if there are guys
on the trade market they want to try to go after,
to try to put together pretty compelling packages that I
think will be tough for a lot of other teams
to match.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Hey, Jack, just a general question, man, what do you
you know during the World Series And there are a
lot of a lot of conversations out there about the
Dodgers and spending and all that kind of stuff. What
do you lie on some of these comments, and some
of them come from from guys that are your peers
and guys that are in the in the know that
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Dodgers are ruining baseball.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I mean, what do you lie on all of that?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I think it's to say they're ruining baseball is the
wrong way to frame it. I'd say, you know, the
success I think has been good for the sport. I
think you see that in the television ratings. I think
you see it in just the way generally baseball has
re emerged as a more prominent game in the sports scene.
You look at this World Series. It was probably one
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of the best World Series that's ever been played. It
was probably also one of the most kind of followed
that we've seen in recent years. And the other thing
about that World Series that's worth pointing out is, you know,
the Doctors probably shouldn't have won it. And that's where
I think the ruining baseball conversation. It's not like they're
this invincible team that nobody can be so. Toronto Blue
Jays were a last place team a year ago that
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Ben spent some money. Now, they were fit in payroll
this year, but they spent at a level that you know,
probably half the league could do on a regular basis,
and most of the league could do if they want
to pick their spot, really go for it in the
particular season or two. So just the way that baseball is,
the unpredictability, the randomness of it, it's really hard to
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ruin the sport and the way I think it gets framed. Now, Look,
the Dodgers do spend a lot more money than any
other team, or spending at levels the sport has never seen.
They're always going to be in the playoffs because of it.
You know, I think the big difference between the way
baseball is structured and some other sports is it's probably
just as hard to win titles in baseball, even when
you're spending at a level like the Dodgers are as
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it is in other sports. But you don't have to
go through those down periods, those rebuilding years, those times
where like you really have to clear money for salary
cap purposes and maybe miss the playoffs for a year
or two in reset. But to say that they're ruining
baseball or that their talent level is so far beyond
what any other team can match. Then you just got
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to look at this postseason. The Philadelphia Affilies were a
couple of plays away from probably winning that series. The
Toronto Blue Jays had every chance to win that World
Series if they don't make a couple key mistakes late,
the Dodgers don't make a couple of heroic plays late,
And then I think just generally big picture, and the Dodgers'
success has been good for the standing of the sport.
So I understand where some of the criticisms come from.
And I do think that the financial and balances, especially
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when you look at some of the teams at the
bottom of the league, are a problem. But it's probably
not the Dodgers' fault, right Like, there's a lot of
reasons that more teams aren't spending more money. It's not
like the Dodgers are this invincible club that nobody can catch.
There are probably some things that you can fix in
the way that the financial structure of the sport is run.
But what the Dodgers have done is just take advantage
of the rules that have been in place, have reinvested
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money back into their team, and are doing the kinds
of things that is a big market club with star players.
It's probably good for the overall help of the sport.
Even if you know, I can understand the frustration if
you're a smaller market fan who goes, well, we'll never
have a team like that.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Jack, Thanks, I get some rest. I mean, what have
you done till December?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Now, we'll see, we'll see this with this offseason has
but yeah, hopefully hopefully it's a little bit slower for
a couple of weeks. That would be nice.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
All right, get some rest. Thanks so much. We'll talk
to you soon.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
All right, our buddy Jack Harris.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
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(13:25):
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Speaker 4 (13:45):
Let's bring it back Rodney P. Fred Rogan on a Friday,
A rainy Friday, makes here. You're being safe out there
as you get ready for the weekend. It'll be an
interesting weekend here in La Fred because of the rain.
USC plays Iowa, and.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's going to be more.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Favorable to Iowa Fred right because the ball Yeah, and
this rain rainy Saturday that's gonna happen tomorrow. Iowa played
Oregon in a tough ball game. Last weekend in Iowa
is raining and they played Oregon down to the wire.
So hopefully this doesn't affect my trojan as much as possible. Well,
(14:25):
this is a big weekend for them. I mean, they
shot it. This is it. Yeah, this is the one.
I mean, look, they've they've got They've still got to
go to Oregon, but this is the one where they
got to have They got to have this. This is
a this is a team that is really good. And
the narrative, as you know, continues to be can they
be physical. Iowa runs the football very well, as good
(14:48):
as anybody in the Big Ten, and USC obviously can
score points, but I always showed that they can slow
down a potent offense. They slowed down Oregon in Iowan. Yes,
that was rainy, but that's what the condition is going
to be tomorrow. And so this is a big, big test,
big game, big test for USC tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, and another point for USC if they really think
they're legit, there's no wiggle room now. No, every day
is a critical game.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah, and they can't look ahead to oh, we got
Oregon next week up there, which is gonna be the
determining factor whether they get in or not. But Oregon's
still on the ropes too, whether they get in or not.
You know, they haven't been the juggernaut. They lost, you know,
obviously lost to Indiana. But for USC, this this is
a this is a huge game for them, huge game
(15:39):
for them. All Right, Kevin, let's get everybody caught up on.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Stories lighting up their sports headliners.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Yeah, I'll get into some statement that Jen Cohen set
out earlier, but just on that subject matter really for
USC and Oregon. Both either of them ends up winning
out and if things hold, neither of them are going
to be in the Big Ten title game. That's Ohio
State in Indiana, but they're probably gonna get in as
an at large. So whether it's Oregon or USC, one
of them finds a way to win their last three games,
they're gonna get in. So, as you guys mentioned, this
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is huge for USC if they can find a way
to be Iowa this weekend, Oregon and then obviously Ucla
to close the season. So Jen Cohen, the ad at USC,
always puts out this State of Troy update talking about
the athletic department things that are happening, and one thing
that stood out in today's release Rodney was her talking
about the Notre Dame situation. Now, she didn't bring up
Notre Dame specifically in it, but she did talk about
(16:32):
non conference scheduling, and she says what USC basically wants
set up is what a lot of other big team
teams have. They play all of their non conference games
on the front end of their schedule, so once they
get in the conference play, they're not having to worry
about traveling to South Bend in October or somewhere else.
In October, she signed at Ohio State, who won the
national championship last year. She said they did not play
a non conference game after Week three, and that is
(16:54):
the same thing that USC is seeking with their scheduling,
which of course is a big no no for Notre Dame,
which is why they're currently at this impass right now.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Yeah, now, listen, I know people are going to say
you're biased, but I agree with that. I agree with that.
I know when it was, you know, back in the
day when that Robber restarted, it was, you know, they're
playing ten games, eleven games, it's tops a season. And
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in fact, USC had to change the game because it
was at the end of the season for both teams,
whether they played out here or played back there. And
I believe it was John McKay or Howard Jones, one
of the coaches that's decided like it's an unfair advantage
for us to go back to Notre.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Dame in late November.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
And they come out here to California in late November
when we play at home, so change it to mid October.
They did that, But I agree with most even Union
in Alabama all the other big time schools. They'll get
all those non conferences out of the way early in
the season so you can recover. If you play a
game late in the season and you're like USC, you
(18:07):
got one loss or two loss and you got to
play a tough game on the road back at Notre
Dame in late October early November, then it can knock
you out of the playoff picture. So that the scope
and scale of where college football is now is conducive
to making that game either the first or second game
of the season, but not make it at the mid
(18:28):
or three quarters into into the season. I always hated
playing Notre Dame after we played UCLA when I was
a player there, because UCLA is such a build up
to UCLA, and there were certain years we played Ucla
to decide who's going to win the Pac ten or
Pac twelve, and then you got to come back and
(18:48):
play Notre Dame the next weekend. Not as an excuse,
but it was a tough thing because you wanted to
go to the Rose Bowl, and oftentimes USC UCLA game
was for the Rose Bowl, and so there was like
a relief effort and then you had to go play
Notre Dame the next weekend, so I get whether they're
trying to change it.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Well, so here's a question, why wouldn't Notre Dame want that? Why? Yeah,
that's the question. It makes sense.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
I mean, from I know the narrative been spent in
a USC doesn't want to play Notre Dame anymore, But
that's not the case. They just want to play it
early in the year, within the first three games. So
I don't know why Notre Dame doesn't want to do that,
Maybe because I think they're I don't know if they're
contracted to Michigan too, because that's a big Notre Dame.
Michigan is a big game too that they play early
(19:38):
in the year. Regardless of what where it's played, they
play it early in the year, and USC wants the
same thing. So maybe Notre Dame doesn't want to play
those tough matchups that usually could be a tough matchup
with Michigan and USC in the first three or four
games of the season.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Gotta be it. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
So what's been the rage in recent years when it
comes to these major sports is these award shows. The
NFL has their award show that they do at the
end of their season Major League Baseball hat theirs last night,
as a matter of fact, and Mookie Betts actually co
hosted it with comedian Roy Wood Jr. And there's a
funny clip here, at least funny to me, maybe not
funny to the guys that were making fun of. Gary
Sheffield was in attendance, as was Tommy Famine, Amir Garrett,
(20:19):
and those guys took some some shots. It was at
their expense from Rory Wood and Mookie Betts. So let's
play a little bit of their monologue talking about these
guys old school baseball. It sounded like mechanic named Dave Parker,
like oil can Gary Scheff, Gary.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Welcome on down to Sheffield. Auto bout it, pump the hood.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Let me look at that.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Check your bell real quick. Gary Sheffield here today. Oh
my god, I don't point to don't punt. You know what, Gary,
Gary is a good dude. He's a great ambassador for
all the young guys. Not think you forgive me. I
think so. But you know who won't who?
Speaker 5 (20:57):
That?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Tommy Fam. He's a man if by scared of no fam.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
I saw Tommy Fam the other day.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Tommy Fam here too.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Do you know what's crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Do you know what's still what makes it worse worse?
He brought a mere Garrett, amir Garrett.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Is that a mere Garrett, a mirror, a mere Garrett,
A mere Garrett talking.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
About the Geart that's the one that tried to fight
all the Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
He swung on all of them by himself at the
same time.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Let's just let's just move on.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Let think that you move on.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Now.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
The funniest part of it, they show all three of
those guys are all sitting clustered together. Not a single
one of them cracked a smile the entire time. Tommy
fam looked like he wants to jump up and smack
both of them.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
It was playing. It was playing. It probably was righting,
just like they do at the Oscar sometimes.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
That's all with McConaughey and Woody Harrelson and those guys
or whatever. They let him know they're gonna do this,
and then they get a make sure, hey give me
a dead, dead pan face and when we do this,
and they and they do it, so they were clear
that they were going to do this. I because I
know I know Cephville too. He would have went with it.
If it was like off the cuff. But you know
(22:15):
who knows what Tommy fan. Tommy fan never know what
he's thinking. Well, I'm thinking it certainly.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I take fighting during the off season so I can
fight during the season.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
He says, I trained a fight in the off season
just in case I need to during the season.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Yes, yes, yeah, he's a little off Tomy. He's the
one to hit Jock Peterson because Jock teased him about
about fantasy football.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
I think Jock was laid on his fantasy football dudes
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, yeah, one of those things, or the Giants.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I guess it was a team fantasy thing too, and
the Giants came in like fourth.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
It was like four four teams that were.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Involved in it, like as a competition, and the Giants
were pulling up the rear, and Jock made a joke
and he actually took a sucker punch of jobs.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
We were talking about Edwin Diaz is a free agent
and probably the best reliever out there on the free
agent market. We kind of kicked around whether or not
the Dodgers will be interested in him, and most importantly,
what kind of contract is he looking for. He did
an interview with news Day yesterday. He says as of now,
it's fifty to fifty. As to whether or not he
will return to the Mets, he says he loves New York,
but he wants to get the best deal for his family.
(23:23):
He also says he wants to win a ring wherever
he goes, but it sounds like money is absolutely a
giant priority for him, and a lot of times you
obviously can't have it both ways. The team that's willing
to pay you the most might not give you a
great opportunity to be able to win. So if a
big time contract in payday is what he's looking for,
I feel that the Dodgers are probably not going to
be a likely destination for him.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Well, at least he was honest. Yeah give him that. Yeah, Yeah,
it's fifty to fifty.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
So he said the big time contract's more important than
the championship.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
He didn't say one was more important than the other,
but he's certainly prioritizing both. He says, I want to
get the best deal for my family, but I also
want to win a ring.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, mutually exclusive.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
So yeah, he's uh quanky? Is that Quinkie? When he
played for the Dodgers and they asked him why he
signed with Arizona.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
It was pretty simple. They paid me the most money.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Done you paying me the most uncle to play there? Okay,
at least we know the ballpark now. And I don't
know if that's the best negotiating ploy to take with
a match. Whoever pays me the most wins tell.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
You that that's probably a great one because they pay everybody,
don't they.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Well, I mean I don't.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
I don't fault him for saying that. Look, I want
to I want to get the best deal for my family.
And and also one away like it being that if
you're close and you're a contender, then I will consider
you as opposed to if we're far apart and you
(24:58):
know you're one hundred million dollars away from the next team,
and then they may not be a contender, and I
gotta go with the one hundred million dollar team. But if
it's close, I'm gonna pick the team that's got a
chance to win. So if the Mets are close to
you know, the throwing a team out there, the A's,
the A's go after him, which they never would because
(25:19):
they don't spend the money. But just say the A's
are a team that wants the closer and it's close
with Edwin Diaz, He's gonna stay with the Mets. Even
if it's five millions dollars off or seven millions, you know,
dollars off.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
He'll stay with the Mets. I get what he's saying.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Yeah, makes makes total sense to me. The National League
got MVP race I guess was somewhat close between Otani
and Schwarbert. You probably wouldn't have been surprised that had
gone either way. Obviously we know that Oltani won. Even
tighter was the Ale MVP race that ended up going
to Aaron Judge over cal Rally. Rally seventh player in
history to hit sixty plus home runs in a season.
But Aaron Judge won the batting title while also hitting
(25:59):
fifty five runs, something that hasn't been done either. Do
you guys have an issue with Aaron Judge winning MVP
over cal Rally?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
He won the batting title in hit fifty five homers. Yeah,
he wins. Yeah, well, why were we discussing it? He wins.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Some people would say that cal Raley played the toughest
defensive position on the field, that he played pretty much
every single game, and a switch hitter and did all that,
so they they kind of hold him high regard when
it comes to that.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Yeah, but still you can't deny a guy that hits
over three hundred hits for average and hits fifty five
home runs. I mean it just it's undeniable. As much
as a great season that cal Rally had, I still think.
I mean, he he hit what to sixty seven?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I think it was his average, and I think it
was to forty seven. Actually forty seven was his average.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
And so in the day and age where average, you know,
is something that people think about in the nineties and eighties,
Aaron Judge, who was looked upon it as a home
run hitter, hit for average as well as hit fifty
five home runs. So it's it's hard to argue with that.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Look at it like this, Okay, you can pick one
the guy that hit sixty homers or the guy that
won the batting Crown and hit fifty five.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Who do you pick?
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Well, also consider the body of work too. It's no
disrespect to cal Rally, but Aaron Judge, this is kind
of what he does. He's taken it to a next
level this year. But he's one of the best players
in the sport.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Yeah, but then you could make the outlier that cal
Raley and and the catcher the story. Everything was great
about cal Raley this year. It was great, And had
Aaron Judge stayed hurt or there was no Aaron Judge,
he would have won it gone away. But Aaron Judge.
It's same thing with Otani. Shoorber had one of had
his best year. But if Otani doesn't pitch. If Otani
(27:50):
doesn't pitch this year, I think Schwarber wins it.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Okay, So if Swarber pitched, he would have won it. It
is what it is, No, I know, it is what
it is saying.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
If you can't, you got to stack up the totality
which we're talking about with the average.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
With Aaron Judge, you can't just leave that out.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
You know, home runs, okay, cal Riley beat him in
home runs, but average and other other categories.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Aaron Judge was ahead of him.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
The main thing with Otani if you just put him
as DH versus the eighth like it had been the
year before, where Otani did not pitch, and they go
head to head, the problem is O'tani went fifty to fifty,
so he has to win it on that merit this
year he pitchs, so he has to win it on
that merit.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Say, but Kevin, you made the point. You know, Rawley's
kind of an outlier. Aaron Judge does it every year.
But that being said, I think Raleigh would actually have
a leg up if his year was so spectacular because
Aaron Judge does do it year in and year out.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
But the problem for Roleige of Michael Jordan Fatigue.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Yeah, voter for Tig, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
So the problem is that Raleigh just didn't hit for average.
Right now, if Aaron Judge.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Okay, well let's go this way. Aaron Judge at two
forty this year, he just wins. Yeah, is that simple?
Speaker 6 (29:11):
The novelty usually wins out in situations like this, which
is what he would be. And by the way, I
gave him two bonus home runs. He only hit fifty
three and fifty five, So excuse me on that.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Well, that changes my think, it sure does. That's what
lighting up the headlines two hours. So we will come
back and conclude.
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Speaker 2 (30:01):
Oh yeah, come on back, Freddy, come on back. Let's
wrap it up right now.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Let's go all right, Rams minus three against the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
It's so far on Sunday. This is a big game. Oh,
it's a big game.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yes, yeah, two of the top teams in football will
battle it out.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
How about to come back of Sam Donald?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Fred how about that when they rowed him off when
he was with the Jets, and now he had a resurrection.
Kyle Shanahan believed him and believed in him, and San
Francisco went to Minnesota, had a great year and now
he's uh, he's got the helm in Seattle as the
guy and just really is being the Sam Donald everybody
thought he was going to be when he left that seat.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
And the thing is, and you said it so many times,
you go to the wrong team. Even if you're good,
you look pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yes, where you land Cooper Cup a chance to say
hello to him? Once again.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Yeah, Cooper Cup coming back, you gonna have a little
incentive and something to say about this game.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Absolutely, after observing what is going on this year, the
Rams probably made the right move and Cooper Cup had
a chance somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Yeah, you know, it comes a time where you got
to move on, and it was I think it works
out for both both the team and the player in
this situation.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
With Cooper Cup. You know, his salary was so.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
High, but the Rams are able to use that and
move on and Cooper Cup found a new home to
finish out his career, and I think it's working out
for both parties.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
All right, Uh, Ronnie, thank you for today. Really appreciate it.
Great work, Kevin, outstanding work as well. Truly appreciate your efforts. Everybody,
be safe, try to stay dry. And Rodney a one
hour show for us Monday, So I'll talk to you
then right home, let's go
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