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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, here we go a big three hour show today.
Fred Rogan an America's All Star. Jonas Knox in for Rodney. Jonas.
Thanks for hanging out today.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hey Fred, how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
We're good? You know, got dumped on out here, so
we uh, you know, try to crawl through the puddles
to continue on. And I heard flying day. Yeah, it
was it like just didn't stop. It just continuous rain
and did not stop. And uh. And then you know,
the commute to work this morning at two in the
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morning to go in and do the radio show Cake Cake. Well,
except for the fog and you you could not see
where you were driving, and so it created kind of
an interesting dynamic where I wasn't really sure whether or
not there was a pile up or people were just
being very cautious as they were trying to merge onto
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the four or five. You couldn't see the signs, you
couldn't see the roads. Very disorienting. But you have a driver,
you don't have to worry about any of that stuff.
But if you're behind the wheel, it's a it's a problem, yeah,
a little bit of a problem.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Let me ask you this, and if you. If you're
a registered driver, you should have the answer to this.
So when you are driving in fog like that, what
should you do with your lights?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Okay, I'm so glad you brought this up, all right,
because I've heard two different things.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Years ago, I had my brights on and I got
yelled at because that wasn't what you're supposed to do
because it could impact others on the road if all
of a sudden in the fog there's some brights on,
and it could be very distracting. So I was always
(01:45):
told you don't put your brights on, and then I
heard years later, no, you do put them on. So
I can't figure out which is which. I just went
with standard head light beams. I just went with the
standard today and it worked. But I'm wondering whether or
not I've pissed off anybody that happened to be on
the road because I was doing it incorrectly. I still
(02:06):
haven't gotten the straight answer on that.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Okay, if we up on the phone lines, I know
people do know how to drive and fok eight six
six ninety seven two five seventy if you have a
tip for Jonas, because I know the correct answer. By
the way, Now, you may not want to take advice
for me because I have been nicknamed the mobile Assassin.
Well that that moniker pretty much indicates you should not
take driving tips for me.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Okay, that I mean, that's a that's a real fun name.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Well yeah, but here's the thing, Jonas. You know, I
don't want to belabor this, and you know, when we
work together, things come up. Yes, sure, I have been
involved in a few fender benders. I did drive through
an apartment building wall. Okay, not my fault.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Oh really, yeah, oh yeah, you know that happens to
the best of us. I mean, you know, you thought
it was a drive through. Well, you know, like you
didn't know exactly where to pick the food up from.
Next thing, you know, you're you're sitting in somebody's laugh
next to the coffee table.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, it wasn't good. It wasn't good. But it happened. Okay,
and uh yeah, yeah, raining I hit the center divider
in the freeway, scaffolding truck crashed into me. Stuff has
happened t bone NBC one.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
The scaffolding truck crashed into you.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, well, here's what happened on that one. Scaffolding truck
is driving and a CHP officer is driving next to
the scaffolding truck on the freeway and moves in front
of the scaffolding truck. I am in the lane next
to the scaffolding truck, so I'm just driving. The scaffolding
truck comes over and basically took off my entire my
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left side mirror and then in my car. But it
wasn't my fault. It wasn't my fault. And here's what
I'll say, given what I've been through, I think I'm
a very good driver. Now there are people that drive
with me that go, you're awful, You're an off. Oh yeah, yeah,
But I do not believe that because I have somehow
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survived all of these skirmishes to be here with you today. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
But there's a lot of bad cooks out there that
have never burned the house down. They just think they're
a great cook. It's like, well, I mean the house
is still here, how could it be bad. It's like, well,
you ever notice everybody eats out before they go to
your place when you host, like a dabor knows that,
like like you can see food wrappers in the car,
Like that's probably an indicator you're a bad cooking Yeah,
but I've never burned the place down. So that's that's
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kind of an interesting way to claim that you're a
great driver, just you know, based on going through all
those wrecks and and surviving to tell about it. I mean,
it's you know, I just think that people aren't used
to driving in the inclement conditions and the weather conditions,
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and so because of that, we have issues when there's
the first rain, when there's the first you know, you
name it like people, people struggle with that and God
forbid it. Whorre to snow out here. I don't know
if you're supposed to wear chains on your tires. Uh,
but you know that could be a problem as well too.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
No, no, again, this is a mistake. Should you put
chains on your tires and snow That is incorrect. You
should wrap your feet in chains.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Oh that's me, look at me there. Everybody's got to
fetish these days. And there's probably a page on Instagram
built that me there for somebody. So if you are
in chains on feet and that's your that's your go
to do. You do what you gotta do.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
That is troubling and disturbing what's that handle by the.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Way, Yeah, Rex Rex Ryan's bound in chain Bounding gag Chamber.
Dot net is where you can find all the further
details and how to be involved there. They got all
the links to their socials up there on the main page.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Low beam headlights, that's the answer.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Oh you got to go low beam? Yeah, well, I
mean my truck's old. It's I mean, that's what it is.
So so I'm in the then good.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
You mean even if you turn them on their low beam?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean the things I mean
were at three hundred and ninety one thousand miles. Okay,
it doesn't even have lights. It's got basically polaroids of
the sun from six months ago attached onto the beams,
and that's usually what we're showcasing his lights. I liked
a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Every tell you about the time I drove in the
dust storm.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
No, yeah, I can't believe you've missed. You've missed telling
me that one. That's that's stuff of all the ones
I was I was thinking myself, Man, have you ever
ran into a dust storm before?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Here's the thing so you talked about it's kind of
scary when you're driving to the fog. And that's true.
I mean we can sit here and laugh about it,
but that is really scary city living.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You literally couldn't see like you could not And I'm
coming from Thousand Oaks and there was a stretch from
Agra Hills to the valley where I didn't know where
I was, and you know where it gets it's like, really,
you know, there's not a lot of lights when you
when you're on the one to one going towards the
valley and you're passing through Calabasas, there just ceases to
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be lights anywhere at certain stretches.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Like you've gone past a gora.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, it's just like you can't see anything, and so
you're like looking around, going.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
You can see now you can see. No, I drove
that road for years, the one.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
When when it gets foggy out, it's difficult. Yeah, it's difficult.
And then it was also you got to the valley
and from the valley all the way to the four
or five could not see like it was. It was bad.
So you know, people were driving slow, being cautious, but
it was a problem today man.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
And what time was it?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Two o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
A lot of drunks out then too.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, I don't know if they were, if they were
going to take their chances driving that like that would
have been I mean, it's already dumb enough. You're drinking
and driving. If you're drinking and driving with you know,
basically seventy five percent blindfolded, and that's probably not a
good idea. And that's basically what it felt like.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Let me ask you this, even early in the morning,
is there a backup or a log jam until you
hit receipt a boulevard.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
No, but at that time if for whatever reason, there
is a log jam or a backup and you've got
to take side streets like it's hard to find an exit.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
There was actually an accident on the way in a
few weeks back where there was like a painters truck
that went into the into the sidewall and not the
center divider, but the sidewall in the valley. There was
stuff scattered all over the freeway and so there was
one cop that was there and he just shut it
all down, just like, yeah, we're not taking any chances,
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We're just going to shut it all down. And so
that created a problem. But as far as traffic goes.
It's not until about five o'clock, five or five thirty
in the morning that the one oh one to the
four or five starts getting jammed up. And when PCH
was closed, I mean it was it was a nightmare, right, Yeah,
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it was. That was really really bad. That's that's when
I've seen it at its worst, following the fires and
the closures there.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So so when you leave at six am, six fifteen, know,
when you six oh two am, you just run for
the car. Yeah, you get back on the one on
one or no you don't go?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, way you got Yeah you go, yeah back on
the one on one to the twenty three. Yeah, straight shot.
Yeah for a minute. Yeah you could, but it would
just it would add more time to everything. If there's
no if there's no incident on the one on one,
your best bet is just to take the one on
one bet and then by that time at six o'clock,
you know, the one on one to the four or
five heading that direction, the one on one south. That's
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that's that's a pain in the ass.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah. So here's the thing I want to tell you
about my uh my dust storm story. What would you
do in a dice storm? I present this to everybody
listening right now.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Take pictures. I'm a weather nerd, so like I would
take pictures and I'd go which month of the calendars
is going to be.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
You're not one of those. You're not a weather nerd.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yes, not a weather ner I've talked to you about
this before. I've got multiple weather apps. My son and
I we we checked the radar every day. I'm a
complete geek. I love it. I'm obsessed with it. I
love it.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
What gets you off about the weather?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Excuse you?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I wonder why do you like the weather?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
You want to rephrase that, sir, I don't care. That
was yeah, I mean, but since you're asking, I don't know. Hey, hey,
we really got turned on by that typhoon. Huh. We
got a little tight in the trousers there. That that
F three really got you? And whatch taha. I don't know.
(10:38):
I just like some people, you're just some people learn anything.
Some people learn the cars like some people are carguy.
I just I was just into weather, like weather and sports.
I just liked it. I don't know. I don't know
what it was, you know, just my thing.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Man. All right, I'm driving in the dust storm no,
I did not take pictures because I'm in a dust doorm.
I'm in a dust storm, and I'll tell you where
the dustorm was, and I never experienced before. You might
not know this, and if for those of you that don't,
then this will be very good for you to understand
the area known as the Coachella Valley. If you're on
the ten and you're heading back to LA and I
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do all the time. People think I'm out here all
the time in the desert. That's not true. I am
back in La an awful lot like.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
You seem to get really fired up and make a ventay.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Well, here's why, because I know this. And as you
drive down the ten, if you're headed home or you're
coming out here, you know one of the iconic spots
to look at is the windmills. You know this, Jonas, Yes, right, yeah,
all the windmills.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I am driving back. It's gonna be seven o five
one night, seven o five, but it was not before
the time changed, so it was still light. I'm driving
back and I see boint. Things are really getting sandy
here in this area. The next thing I know, I
am on the ten and I cannot see I am
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stuck on the ten driving in a dust storm, and
I mean, you cannot see two feet in front of you.
I had no idea what was going on. What would
you have done?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I would say pull over, but I mean you could
you even see where to pull over.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
You could have hit somebody on your right.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, by the way, the people, the people driving around
you could barely see the lights in front of you.
I mean, this was awful. And you're going let's say seventy.
So what do you do?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Well, I probably wouldn't go seventy anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Well, you were going seventy at that point. It just
came upon you.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, I would. I would probably, you know, probably, you know,
take my foot off the gas just a little bit,
just to be safe since I couldn't see. And then
I don't sixty seven, Yeah, I mean something like that,
you know, something fair, all right? You know, you don't
want to drop all the way down to thirty five,
so you just go to sixty eight. And then I
would say, And then I would say, and I don't know,
because I've never driven in a dust storm. Again, these
are like canditions most of us don't have to deal
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without here, So I think we're probably the worst in
the country when it comes to this amazing people in Hawaii.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
No, listen, I want you to continue, but I want
to say this. I found that borderline insulting.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Well look, no, let me tell you what.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
No, no, no, let me tell you why. Most people consider
me very rugged and outdoorsy. So these are the kinds
of conditions that I would deal with all the time. Yeah,
you know, you know, during the holiday season, I go
out with an axe and I cut wood. You know that.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yes, well, I mean, listen, you grew up on eight mile,
like you and M and M were, you know, out
wearing flannel shirts and you know, and dickies and and
you guys were just trying to make ends meet out
there back in the day. I got you actually seven
mile for me. Yeah, like the the higher you went
up in mile age, the nicer the homes. God, So
you are actually stepped down for a mile for me.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
No, I was not good. I was next to Berry Gordy,
but I was on a side street. Okay, Marvin Gaye
bought that house at one point. But I digress. What
would you do in the sandstorm? Then I will tell
you what I didn't.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I just would wait to see what everybody else is doing.
I guess, but you can't see. I really don't know.
I would just I'd probably be terrified, like what's happening here?
How would get out of this?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Okay? I was concerned, but given my defensive driving skills,
given everything I had been through in my life, here's
what I did. I slowed way down and I turned
on my emergency flasher. I didn't pull right, I didn't
pull left. I did slow down. I turned on my
emergency flashers and continued at about twenty five miles an hour.
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Good move, I went, I would say, another three or
four minutes, the dust cleared. All of a sudden, I
could see forward. I turned off my emergency flasher and
I floored it because I was concerned I get caught
in another dust storm.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah that's good. I mean, listen to you may as
well outrace that bastard. Why not, you know, let's see
what they got. Step on your gas, mother nature, and
see if you can keep up.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
That's right, right, I could be an elephant running.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Couldn't I mean probably not.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
You go, you know what, look at that thing?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I mean, you know, I don't think we need to
air anybody out here on this show, like that's that's
all we're trying to do. But I would say this,
I would say I would say this, truckers and listen,
they're the best. Uh. They are the heart and soul
of the country. They they get things from, you know,
where they need to go to, and they work hard,
and they're away from their families for a long time.
(15:32):
And I've known people who've driven trucks, moving, et cetera.
Like it's like it is a bankless job and you're
out there driving in a lot of elements. There are
times where I can sense the truckers are just like
I don't have time for this, Like, listen, you know,
is what it is. I got to get to where
I got to go to, and I'm just gonna step
on the gas because the whole there, there's moments where
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they don't even bother going in the slow lane anymore.
They're just like this this is my highway. I got
to drop stuff off. I need to get to my destination,
and I really don't care who's in the way. It
is what it is. And if you drive in other
parts of the country, I can remember driving next to
a logging truck on a two lane highway and I
think we were in Amarillo, Texas, And I remember I
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was driving on a two lane highway in Amarillo and
this logging truck must have been going eighty miles an hour,
like it was like the thing was flying, and I'm
carrying a U haul on the back of my produce truck,
and I'm looking around, going, how's this fair?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
How is you're carrying a U haul on your well truck?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I mean listening, because at that point there were so
many things, you know, falling out of it. It was like,
you know, it just it looked like a produce truck.
So I'm trying to get I'm trying to get to
where I need to go. It was actually driving to
my first radio job, and I'm driving next to this guy,
and that was just somebody who was at a certain
point just realized I'm going to drive the way I
want to drive, and if I get a ticket, I
get a ticket. But I got to get this to someplace.
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So some of the truckers out there, they're the ones
that you really got to lean on when it comes
to how should you have handle these current conditions, because
there's by the book and then there's by the reality,
and they'd live in a reality that none of us
can relate to. For the most part, that's fair. Yeah,
there is a road. It's called Highway seventy four. I
don't know how many people have been on it. It's
a short cut from San Diego, let's say, to Palm Springs.
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It's very windy, it's two lanes. It's scary as hell.
Giant trucks should not be driving on this road. And
one road is like the side of the mountain. The
other is look down and it's over without a lot
of guardrails. I mean, it is a terrifying, terrifying road.
There's a truck hauling cars. The truck is driving up
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seventy four because the navigation said it's a shortcut to
get to wherever they're going. The guy gets so freaked
out he pulls the truck over, gets out, puts a
note on the windshield and says, I'm not driving on
this road. Had somebody pick them up, and the truck
sat there for two weeks with all these cars. That's
how scary that road is.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
So if you wanted a Nissan, it could figure out
how to get it off. That truck up on the road.
You could do it all.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Right, if you can pick a lock, it's yours, It's
all yours.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, so truckers know everything except roads like that.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Well, yeah, he probably should. It's probably not the best
road for him. There's alternate routes and he might have
gotten lost.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
But yeah, well they don't take the alternate routes because
then you have to go through the truck scales at Banning.
These are things you need to know.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
By the way, have you heard that there's like trucker
groupies too?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Tell me you know what there? Well, I'm just saying like,
there's you know, if you get a truck stops. I
have heard anybody driving a truck right now? Maybe you can,
maybe you can speak to this. But I have heard
that there are trucker groupies and they have a name.
Can you guess the name of what a trucker groupie is?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
A truckie?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
No, it's a good guess.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Okay, what's it start with?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Starts with an L an L Yeah, a lucky Kevin
Kevin Irani. Can you take a guess as to what
a trucker groupie is? Somebody who's a groupie for for truckers.
You know, can you would you guys like to you know?
Unfortunately I do not know. Okay, just I mean a guess.
I mean any you know, guessing is losers. I mean
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that's that's aggressive. And I didn't go there, Yeah I didn't.
We don't know. I mean, you.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Told me to take a guess.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
So there is Kevin. You want to you want to
try and guess what a trucker group he is called
truck group? Kevin stepped out, he stepped out of them.
He's probably looking for one of them. I don't blame him.
They're called lot lizards.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Lot lizards.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, how about that?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Really? You know, I don't think I've ever met anyone
who identifies as a lot lizard.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, listen, that's what I was told. That again, could
also be inaccurate, but I'm gonna go I'm gonna lean
on the side of trusting my source. But I've been told, yeah,
lot lizards are groupies for truckers.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Well, and what are the groupies for truckers do?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I mean? You know, they're uh, they hang around and
at some of these lots, some of these you know, uh,
you know, truckers stop you know where truckers stop to
either gas up or fuel up or whatever, and they'll
hang out. Like you can see them on the side
of road. It's like even in Calabasas, you see them
all on the side of the road. They're just kind
of hanging out.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I've never seen women walking up and down on the
side of the road in Calibasa talking to truckers.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
There's a group there's groupies for everything. Man, there's you
think it's just rock stars and athletes, like like truckers
can't get a can't get fondled a little bit from
time to time. So they're out there. You know, they're
trying to make these trips, make the towns, deliver the goods.
They stop off to get something to eat. You know,
they're trying to eat as quick as they can. They
look to their left, they look to the right, and
all of a sudden, somebody taps them on the shoulder
and it's a four on a scale of one to
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one hundred. Who says, Hi, I'm lot lizard number ten.
What do you say? Why not? What's the problem?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Is it? Like the people that you are identifying and
really in a very derogatory way as lot lizards is
it like they work at Sonic where a trucker pulls
over and they go up to the truck and they
give them whatever they need.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I mean, well, that feels like it's armed robbery at
that point. Like that's I wouldn't say that they're being
robbed of anything other than maybe their dignity and whatever
built up aggression they have or frustration at that point.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
But one the trucker or the lot lizard, Well, I mean,
who knows.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
The lot lizard is very aggressive. I mean they're you know,
they've they've they've got to do what they've got to do.
But I'm almost certain that if you're if you are
a groupie for a trucker, you're moniker. Is a lot lizard?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Do they behave? Very much like the armadillo?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Which is what does the armadillo do? Just turn on
their back? No, I'm saying that sounded bad. I didn't mean.
I didn't mean it like that, because look, those are
tight quarters. They might not have any choice. So I'm
just but isn't that what an armadillo does? It just
like roll on their back? Or am I confusing that
(21:58):
with a possum? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Wait, doesn't that have a hard shell de armadillo.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, okay, maybe I'm confusing that with a possum. I
don't know what.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Possums are not your friends, No, they're not. Do not,
do not confront the possum.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, do not pet a possum unless you're holding a
nine millimeter.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Anyway, how do you manage an aging roster? That's next?
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App, Dodgers Now and uh Times reporting today. As a
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funny they've won the World Series Nationally, you're in the
middle of the NFL season, you're kind of heading on
the home stretch very soon, and here we still talk
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about the Dodgers every day. Do you find that odd
because National League Baseball is done?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
No.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I think that just illustrates the grasp the Dodgers have
on the town. Like that's I mean, and I don't know,
you can argue and debate, well, who's bigger is it Lakers,
is it Dodgers. I mean, the fact that it's even
an argument at this point, I think speaks volumes to
where both those organizations are at and what the Dodgers
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have done to take over the interest, and I guess
the what to model your franchise off of, not only
in this town, but also nationally because as many people
that hate on them and say, well, you know, they're
buying championships, are doing all that they're doing. Like we've
(23:48):
talked to Ned Kletti about this multiple times. It's not
just the fact that they spend the way they spend.
It's just from the floor up, like the foundation's good,
the farm system's good, management's good, the players, the coaching staff.
They do it the right way. And so I think, yeah,
even in the midst of football season, you know, why
do you want to try and talk about another team
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in town who doesn't do it? As well, when you've
got one that just won two World Series in a
row and they do it better than anybody.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So we talk about him every day. Free agency, whispers
of Cody Balancer. Now here's the dilemma the Dodgers have
to face. The roster's getting older. So it comes down
to how do you manage an aging roster? How do
you balance winning now with the winning in the future.
Certainly you're not going to start blowing guys out now.
(24:38):
I mean, this will probably be it for Max Munson,
It'll probably be it for Mickey Rojas, right, and it
may be it for keyk as well. So you're going
to have openings on the roster now. Some people are saying,
go out and get Kyle Tucker. I was reading today
that he's going to want a ten year deal for
four hundred million dollars. I mean, okay, that doesn't seem
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like a very positive reaction.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Well, it's just like, I get here would be my
only thought because if you mentioned that, you know, because
Kyle Tucker's name has been out there and obviously you know,
the Cubs you know did it basically, you know, took
a gamble and brought him in for one year. But
like the past couple of years have been marred by injuries.
It wasn't just this past year in Chicago where his
splits there and on the road were you know, very
(25:27):
drastic as far as when he performed better, but he
you know, he couldn't stay healthy. He got in this
rut that actually, you know, apologies to Kevin figures he
kind of got out of when he was out here
in Los Angeles or excuse me, Anaheim taken on the Angels,
and the year before he missed a bunch of time
because of the injuries. Also, So it feels like that's
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somebody who's starting to get older, and you're going to
commit ten years and that much money to a guy
who went back to back seasons hasn't been able to
play a full season like that. I mean, sure, I
guess if you want to splurge in that area, but
it just seems like that one's a little bit I
find that one hard to believe.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, I do too, be very honest with you, I
do too, and I think the Dodgers feel that way.
There's no ten year deal. You can't keep doing that.
I tell Rodney all the time, you cannot keep locking
guys up for ten years. You can't. It is not efficient.
They found the secret sauce this go round and it worked.
I mean, Freddy has two years left on his deal.
(26:30):
Guys are gonna get older. There will be a point
of diminishing returns. And here's something I would ask you
to consider. And it's a conversation we have all the time.
I kind of look at it differently. Hey, if the
Dodgers win three World Series in a row, then the
following year they don't look very good. And the following
year they still don't look very good because everybody aged out.
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If you're the fans, what do you do? Do you
sit and go We won three World Series in a row,
So if we go to Hell a couple of years here,
that's fine because we got free. I don't think that's
how fans really feel.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Ooh, you don't think so.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
No. I think this. We want you to be as
good as you can be every single year at the
beginning of the year, at least in this market. If
you're in Pittsburgh, it's a different story. But in this market,
I believe fans say, we want you to win everything.
You might not, but you can't go to hell, either
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you can't, and I think you always hit a point
of diminishing returns. And when I worked at NBC, they
had a philosophy we'd rather make a change a year
early than a year late. So if we think whoever
this individual is is about to reach their ceiling, we're
going to make the move now, even though they could
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perform well this year, We're going to make the move
now because we don't want them to hit it and
then face diminishing returns. And that's why when the Dodgers
are getting back to work here and figuring out their roster,
I think it's very dangerous to start offering another guy
a gigantic deal.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Well, what it makes sense then if that's the approach,
because this would be my thought, if there you're in
an envious position from everybody else in the league. Because
the Dodgers have one two World Series and the fan conversation,
I do want to get back into that, but just
from a strategic standpoint for the team, if you've if
you've got the roster you've got, can't you afford to
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go through the growing pains of bringing somebody up from
the farm system to see whether or not they're the guy,
or you know, just let them develop, Like you may
want to spend ten years and four hundred and fifty
million dollars on Kyle Tucker, or you can trust your
farm system, put somebody out there in the outfield and
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work around whatever growing pains they're going to go to
while you still have this roster that is aging. But
then you you're not basically just throwing everybody else and
bringing in a new crop. You're just sort of one
piece at a time, developing them as the other ones
start to age out and start to go other places.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah, that would be I thought, And that's Andy pa
Has for example. Yes, that's Andy pa Has. That's Kim
the second basement, right, you've got to that's Dalton Rushing.
You gotta start bringing these guys in and not spending
money on a ten year deal. I just do not
see them doing that. I think that would be a
(29:32):
really bad decision because in life, even though you know,
everybody's excited and they should be, and the Dodgers could
win this thing again next year. I mean, it's remarkable
what they've done. They're built for sustained success. But we
live in a world of what even done for me lately.
That truly is the world we live in. Okay, that
was great, Now what because everything is immediate and urgent. Okay,
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that was fantastic. Now what? Oh yeah, a bad year,
but gonna raise ticket prices. That's how people really think.
If they raise prices and keep winning and go, well,
what are we going to do? I mean, they're investing
back in the team. So if if that's the feeling,
I believe you've got to start integrating younger guys and
Emmit Shean for example, there's a young guy. Yeah right,
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River Ryan will be back. There's a young guy. They
have Robleski's up here. Now there's a young guy. So
they've got to integrate these young players. And that's why
I think ten years for Kyle Tucker. No, no, you know,
I'd sign, but there's nowhere for him to play for
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five years. If he could play anywhere besides DH, I'd
sign Kyle Schwarburn all of the day.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Oh I mean could that would be way? That would
be worth the price of admission just for batting practice,
just to see him and Otani. See ay, which one
can hit a ball to Galita? Just give it a
give it a whirl. So just somebody get out there
and like, just that would be worth the price of admission.
But I'm with you, like where do you put him?
(31:08):
Like it's it's d H or nothing. And he came
up and he was a catcher, Like he was a catcher.
The Cubs tried to put him in the outfield and
then you know, his rookie season, he got hurt, you know,
trying to trying to make a catch I think in
Arizona and missed the entire year and then showed back
up for the World Series like they've they've teams have
tried to put him out in the field. But he's
(31:29):
a DH. I mean, just it is what it is
and that and that's fine, Like he's gonna make a fortune,
but yeah, that's that would be somebody who would be fun.
But yeah, I think that's a long shot. I also
think this when you mentioned the fans and sort of
their desire to want to continue on with this, and
I hear you, but I think then you're treading on
the line of becoming a Philadelphia fan. And what I
(31:50):
mean by that by this is is this or what
I mean by that is this Philadelphia fans like the
Eagles will win a super Bowl or get to a
super Bowl and the next year the coaches on the
hot seat or the next year something's got to change.
They just won a super Bowl last year, They've lost
(32:11):
like two games in like four hundred days, and there's
talks about hot seats and trading this guy and AJ
Brown's not happy and this guy's not happy and the
offense is broken, and there's never once a thought of like,
you know what, let's just be a little patient. And
it's what makes the fan base awesome, but it also
(32:31):
makes them borderline ungrateful for do you know how good
you have it? And I wonder if deep down Dodger
fans are because I heard a lot of them say, hey,
whatever happens this year. We got the World Series last year,
And then I would ask them, yeah, well, how were
you feeling in Game seven of the World Series this year,
Like did it enter your mind? Like, ah, whatever happens,
(32:52):
don't worry about it. We got the one last year. No,
you really wanted this one. And as that series went
on and it looked like they were done, and you realize, oh,
there's really a potential of this happening. Like Mickey Ross
really did just hit that home run. PA has really
did make that play. Then you get in your mind
like no, no, no, no, we want this one too, and you
get greedy. So I get all that, but I do
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think after a game and a series that wrapped up
and ended the way that it did, I think there's
a large segment of Dodger vans that are like, you
know what, man, not a bad way to get this one,
and then you know, whatever happens next year, happens next year,
Like it's it's not a bad thing to fall back
on to go we won two in a row, and
(33:33):
I know that we want to be greedy, but at
one point, are you being greedy and not being appreciative
to the situation that you're in and what you've already accomplished.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I think they are appreciative, and you might be right,
you know, let's let's just be thankful what we have
until opening day next year? Well, I mean until opening day.
And also that's how people are going to think Jonas.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
And what's going to happen after next year, Like are
we getting a lockout? Is there going to be It
feels like everybody just foregone conclusion is going to be
a stoppage, and so that's that's also what I wonder,
how does that impact how you're handing out contracts this offseason,
because are you want are you wanting to commit long
term to somebody without knowing what financially and what the
(34:15):
structure of the of you know, the salary capital or
if there's going to be a salary like do you
if you don't have those answers, are you really willing
to give guys long term security? And and that's why
I'm curious to see how this market's going to shape
up for a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Listen, you better tell us if you're going to stay
or not. By the way, if you don't tell us,
there's nothing we can do to you anyway, but you
better tell us. That's next.
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Speaker 2 (35:33):
Hey, by the way, somebody told me that, just for
clarification purposes, sorry to interrupt, I said lot lizards were
truck stop groupies. Somebody said they're basically prostitutes. It's like,
I mean, we're splitting hairs here, like what do we
you know? It's like, come on, man, like what's the difference?
Speaker 1 (35:51):
You know? What do you mean? Somebody said that a
groupie for a trucker is a prostitute.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Well no, I said, a groupie for a trucker is
called a lot lizard, because that's what I was told.
And somebody said a lot lizard is actually a prostitute.
It's like okay, like listen, like at that time of
night in those locations you don't even It's not like
you can shop down multiple aisles. Okay, somebody knocks on
the window and says, hey, man for forty five bucks,
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and you hagle them down to forty next thing, you know,
the next fifteen minutes, you're hanging out relaxing for a minute.
It's like, what are we talking about here? Stuff splitting hairs, prostitute,
lot lizard who cares well, hold on, So I just
looked this up and do some deeper research into this
because this is very important distinction, because neither of you
are wrong. A lot lizard apparently is a prostitute who
(36:37):
does work at truck stops. So you're both right. So
a lot lizard is a type of prostitute. Yeah, so
the holidays are coming up around the corner and people
want to, like, you know, like draw a line in
the sand and say we get to pick one or
the other. They're like, no, can't we both be right? So,
oh yeah, we're on the same team. Then lot lizard
prostitute call them what you want. Lot Lizard's a fun name, though.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
I never even thought that. I thought you were talking
about these were people that brought like cookies and hot
cocoa on cold nights.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
To the drivers, amongst other things, just.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Put a smile on their face. I didn't think anything
else happened.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Whatever you choose to call it, Fred, you know the
same difference, yea, Like if they show up with cookies,
hot cocoa and a hair tie, Like, everybody's gonna have
a good time, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Nobody gets hurt.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Hey, let's hope not.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Can you answer this for me real quick? Since you
talk a lot about.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Like why do you why do you steer us into
a ditch? You just grow up a little bit from
time to time. Serious.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
First of all, I didn't even bring this up.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
You just did like you mentioned earlier. Oh, I was
driving through a you know, a dust storm, a dust storm,
trying to get to my lot lizard. I'm like, what's
a lot lizard?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
No, I did not say that.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I thought that's how I win. I win. I'm sorry,
that's not how it went.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Explain this to me. You know, Lane Kiffin and LA
fans will remember Lane because he was fired on the tarmac.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
By the way, that was the first. By the way,
how have things gone for le Kiffin versus USC sins?
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, that was the best time act firing in college
football history. Now is at Ole Miss. He's turned that
everywhere he goes. He figures it out right now the
ten and one. So there's talk that Lane, because the
LSU job is opening the Florida job were open, that
he would be a candidate for both. So much so
that apparently LSU sent a private plane for Kiffin's family
(38:24):
to visit Baton Rouge. She's back with his wife. Yeah,
the Kiffins took a similar trip to Gainesville the day before.
Lane Kiffin didn't go on either one, but apparently his wife,
the kids, and whoever else went just to get an
idea of what it's like. So that tells you how
much other institutions are interested in Lane Kiffen.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Now I heard on the show this morning, and I
could say this public league is Brady Quinn said it
publicly that from people he's talked to, it's going to
be Florida for Lane Kiffin. That it's almost basically a
done deal at this point. And to now it looks
like the misjob is going to open up. So LSU's
throwing their name in the hat. But you know, sort
(39:05):
of with where they're at and the governor getting getting
involved in Brian Kelly getting you know, like that fiasco
with his contract and them trying to get some of
the money back. You know, you know, Blane Kiffin amongst
others are looking at that job, going eh, if there's
other opportunities, we'll go elsewhere. That's right, I heard.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
So anyway, anyway, maybe it is Florida. Maybe it is
because really, if we're honest, and I think we have
If we don't have honesty, we have nothing.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Jonas agreed, fair, Yeah, I would agree. That's why we
do sports radio. Okay, who wants to live in Baton Rouge, Louisiana?
Oh geez, Fred.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
I don't want to talk out it. I don't want
to talk out of school. I don't want to talk
out of school. But I'll say this. I know someone
that went down. I was considering LSU, very excited football program.
The SEC goes down looks at LSU actually was being
recruited as an athlete time. So it goes down, looks
(40:03):
around at a football player and meet so some of
the kids there, you know, because that's what you do
when you're recruited. Jonas, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, if you know that, you got to Okay.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
You know what they told this person, do not come
to school here. We're all trying to get out. Do
not come to school here. We don't want to be here.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
I've not been to Baton Rouge, but I was. I
spent a week in New Orleans for a Super Bowl
this past Super Bowl, and I got to tell you, man,
like when the people that work there are like, man,
we're glad you guys showed up, and it's like, why
because they finally cleaned the place up because they had
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they had company coming over. It's like when you know
when your mom would tell you, hey, so and so
is coming over and there'd be this mad scramble to
clean the house in fifteen minutes and you're like, you're
just like shoving every day. That's basically what they did,
and I'd be fascinated to know what it looks like.
So I don't know if that's the same as Baton Rouge.
But there's there's some problems out there, you know, like
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kids holding kids. You know what the move out is
in New Orleans that I found out. So kids will
walk up to you on the street and they'll be
holding a box of candy and they'll you know, say
would you like to buy some candy, and they'll make up,
you know, some signage on there that it goes to
this or goes to this fund or goes to this
chair like whatever it is. Or I'm trying to get
(41:27):
to two hundred dollars so I can you know, buy
a bike or whatever it is. So they hold this
box of candy, and if you say sure, and you
pull out cash to pay for your you know, KitKat
bar whatever they're selling, then they make a signal there's
somebody around the corner, and they walk out with a
(41:48):
hand canon and get the rest of your cash off you.
But if you pay with card, then they wave the
person down like it's not worth your trouble because they've
got you know, an amex or whatever it is as
opposed to some cash. And so what they do is
they huddle up in the you know, around the corners,
the street corners there in New Orleans, and they get
together and they game plan, especially when you know there's
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tourists walking around or if it's Super Bowl week and
they'll just send a kid out there with a box
of candy bars and if you pull out some cash,
next thing, you know, you feel something against your spine
and it's some guy's revolve or asking for the rest
of your cash. So maybe Lane heard those stories and
was like, you know, I'm just gonna go ahead and
I'm going to opt into Florida instead.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Well here's the thing, by the way, that's a fascinating
business model.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
It probably works.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
That's a fascinating business model. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
I mean, look, hey, lot Lizards, Dodgers off season talk,
and candy bar crimes.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Right, okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
I mean, Fred, welcome to the peak and pinnacle of
your career in sports radio right here. And I was
here to be a part of it. I'm honored.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
But you know that all being said, and all of
it was critical. I mean, it has been a very
informative first hour, there's no denying it. But here on
this show, it's not just about sports. It's about life lessons.
It's about knowing a little more than you did when
you cut it for you know what, A lot of
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the stuff we've talked about today, these are nice icebreakers
at a party.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
I mean agree. You know, I was listening to the
radio earlier. You know what a lot lizard is like? No,
what's that like? A you know, like like a termite.
It's like, no, no, no, it's actually just a hooker
looking for truckers. By the way, the super Bowl's up
in Santa Clara, the Bay Area, San Francisco, terrible Stadium. Well,
I mean if they started cleaning that place up yet
or no, I mean it's too soon. Yeah, you're right,
(43:51):
it's gonna be one of those mad dashes like your
mom growing up. Like you know, fifteen minutes before the
tourist and people arrive for super Bowl week, then we'll
start cleaning everything up.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Good, move away. Here's my point about Lane Kiffin. We
kind of got sidetracked a little.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
He's got a job at all, miss ole, miss apparently
you said, okay, buddy, I'm going to give you two weeks,
two weeks, yeah, to make a decision before el Yeah,
and here's my question, or else what or else? What
you better decide in two weeks? Or else? Or else?
What what are you gonna do? Fire me?
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yeah? It's it feels like there's been some wishy washiness
and maybe they haven't gotten the because Lane Kiffin knows
how to play the game. The one thing I'll give
Lane Kiffin is that when you hire him. He knows
how to play the game and he knows how to
stir the pot, and you know, he you know, was
asked about the New York Giants head coaching job because
obviously Jackson Dart was the guy that he coached in college,
(44:50):
and some people thought, well, you know, maybe they would
bring you into to coach in the NFL again. He
did years ago with the Raiders. It was a disaster,
and he you know, he knows how to play the
game and kind of a manipulate the storylines and all that,
and so there is some thought that maybe, you know,
Ole miss is growing impatient with his commitment to the program.
So they're like, all right, we're going to give you
this time before our biggest game of the year, which is,
you know, our rivalry against Mississippi State called the Egg Bowl,
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for you to make a decision. But I'm with you,
It's like, what are they going to do? Like, the
way this goes is that head coach gets to pick
where he wants to coach. You're hoping it's you, but
it's probably going to be somewhere else like Florida. And
then you need to start figuring out who it is
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that you are going to hire when he leaves, and
I think that they're just almost trying to be the
aggressor here. Deep down, they know he's probably out the door,
and they're probably already looking at other candidates as well too,
because old Missus is an SEC school and a good
job as well. But you know, Lane Kiffin leaving would
be a big loss for them because he has brought
back the program, He's revitalized the program.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
There is there anything they could do to hold on
to him, or it's like I want out of here.
I'd rather go to Gamesville.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
No, because I think in college football, like you, you've
sort through. Look, unless you're thinking to yourself, all right,
why don't we just fire him with cause? And then
you've got to go through and see whether or not.
You know, he used the moniker Joey Freshwater at a
at a frat party or something like that, which is
one of the all time great moves where he didn't
want he was, you know, talking to talking to women apparently,
(46:21):
and he didn't want them to know his real name.
So his fake name was Joey Freshwater, which is just
an incredible and incredible name to give somebody, and he
didn't deny it. Yeah, he didn't deny it. He was
just like, yeah, whatever, it is what it is. You know,
I don't want people knowing who I known who I was,
and why get my name out of If I could
just give out a rock star name like Joey Freshwater,
maybe I'll take that to Florida.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
You know, with the Lakers, not only did Bron he
start a game? Hell yeah, but Lebron is back? Should
he be? Let's talk about it.