November 18, 2025 • 45 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, we continue on Fred Rogan Jonas knaxon today
for Rodney A five seventy LA Sports later this hour,
vincente bon Signore, we'll join the show.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
That's what we're going with.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Now, Yeah, that's his that's our NFL insider, vincente bon Signore,
we'll join the show coming up later on in the hour.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
So was he like half Mexican half Italian?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Or I think Fred, what you meant to say was Vincenzo?
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Is that what I meant? Yes, yes, it's not been sent.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
To corrections and retractions on you miss.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
He says, half Mexican half what I mean?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Fred?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Fred, do you know what you should do when he
comes on to say, well, what's the difference? The flags
look the same and see how that lands over?
Speaker 6 (00:50):
Well?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Absolutely? Did you just call him Vindie bon signor Fred?
Speaker 5 (00:53):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Because I want to call him by his full name.
I just gooped him. I'll ask him when he comes on.
But you know, okay, let me ask you this then?
What nationality is a man I've talked about in the past.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Chico Schultz, Hey, hey, Kevin, you ever had chicken palm tacos?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Although now that you mention it. I'm actually intrigued by that.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
So I think they have those out in the desert, right, Fred,
So what is.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Chico Schultz in? What nationality is that?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I mean he could be half Mexican, half Jewish. I
don't know, you know, Chico, what is he?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Fred? Why would Chico Schultz be half Mexican and half Jewish?
I know what Chico is. Chico is the man, thank you,
Ronnie nice Pole. Nice Pole. No, he was Mexican and German,
Chico Schultz. So you can't just think when you hear
someone's name that it automatically indicates there're a certain way.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Nothing like seeing a sombrero at a Ramstein concert.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
No, right, okay, anyway, Vincenzo will be on Vinnie Bonnor.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
By the way, why am I googling Chico Schultz? Why
am I doing this?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Look him up? See where he is?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I don't see any like there's nothing here I'm like
looking at Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
He played third base for Phoenix Union. Okay, does that
have his career stats? Third basement, Phoenix Union High School?
Chico Schultz.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Now, I got to do a real dive on this.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
As a matter of fact that I don't know if
I mentioned this, Kevin to you. I was invited to
my most recent high school reunion. I didn't go. I
don't go to them.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I mean important.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Well, no I'm not try nothing's coming up.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I'm looking Chico Schultz Phoenix union. And like the third
option on, there is list of people who disappeared mysteriously.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Well there, now we know what happened to him.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Okay, well yeah, bad as.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Bad against Carl Hayden and he was gone done. Okay,
it happens, allright, No, I'm not too good. I went
to my tenure reunion and that's when I showed up
and I talked to a guy who didn't have any team,
and that bothered me. And I had the conversation with
the guy about welding for forty five minutes. And that
was only ten years after high school.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Fred the Sheer didn't show up to a homeless encampment thing?
Is this the ten year.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Get lost?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
You do get lost a lot for it shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Be Friend's like, why everybody? Why is everybody walking around
with a Vaughn's bag full of aluminum cans? What am
I missing here? Can anybody wear the same pair of shoes?
Or do you have like different what's going on here?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Anyway? Another reason I didn't go, And this is terrible,
and if you've been to your reunion you understand this.
I went and there was this table and it had
all these pictures in it. When I first walked in,
I thought, oh my god, these people are obviously being
celebrated for incredible accomplishments. No, they were dead. I was like, oh,
this is such a downer. It was horrible. All right,
I'll get a drink, right Seah, where's the bar? So
(03:50):
now I had another reunion. Whatever number it was is irrelevant.
I didn't go, thank god. But they sent out some
videos and stuff and I was mortified. First of all
of the people that went, I really didn't know any
of them, Like two people I knew, Gilbert Garcia. I
think we all remember Gilbert.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
He's German too.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
There are another ones Africa.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
So there was that, and then they sent out this
video and I cried. I can't believe how many people
I went to school with aren't alive anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
It was terrible.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
It was terrible, and I thought, God, do I really
want to see this? Because you know, as people get
older and you guys probably know this well, of course
you don't because you're not there yet, but you will
be a lot too. When you think, you know, the
only time you hear from people is when something bad happens.
Have you experienced that yet in your life?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I mean yeah, that's yeah. Basically, it's like, hey, if
you need anything, let me know. It's like, hey, if
there's anything I can do, you know, let me know. Well, yeah,
you could have showed up, you know, at some point
while they were still alive and in the last twenty
five years.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
But I mean, like this, phone rings. You haven't talked
to somebody in thirty years? Phone rings? You answer, you
have the name of the person obviously in your phone.
You go, Hi, Oh my god, did you hear? Well? First,
why would I hear I haven't talked to you in
thirty years? Well, you heard about old whatever his name was.
I said, no, will you remember him, don't you? I went, well,
(05:26):
kind of, I'm not sure. Well, we were in science
class biology together.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I went, come on, Fred, you don't remember Willis Goldberg.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
It was like that, and I'm like, no, I got
to tell you what happened. It's terrible. Okay, So now
I haven't talked to you in thirty years and you're
gonna tell me a story about someone I don't remember,
and all I know is it's gonna be terrible. Tell me,
Oh my god, you know he'd gone through so much
and he finally got a job. Oh that's good to know.
(05:55):
I thank god. So this has a happy ending. No
it doesn't. This is a true story. So he was
working for like the Department of Roads. I said, all right,
So he was out working on the road. Yeah, a tractor.
A tractor backed up and ran over him and killed him. Hey,
(06:20):
I went, oh my god. And the person says to me,
can you even go on? This is so upsetting, And
I'm thinking, yes, it's upsetting, but I don't even know
who you're talking about. Yeah, and I haven't heard from
you in thirty years.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I mean the real victims the tractor. So, by the way,
just to open up the show, you should have said
this segment brought to you by John Deere. I'll say
that would have been nice, just to see how that
would have landed.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I guess my guess, friend, is you either get those
or you get like, oh Frey, what's going on? I'm
willis whatever? Like a Jonah said a second ago, Goldberg, Goldberg.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Are you a murmer me for fourth grade?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
So I'll turned on to TV the other day and
I saw you making that big TV money. Huh, So
I'd have fallen on a little bit of hard times,
you know what I'm saying. So you can break off
a couple of you know, twenty five thousand dollars a
way that joy.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Anybody ever ask you for money, Fred, Anybody ask for
handouts because you're because you're probably the most famous person
from your class. No, anybody ask for cash.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
No, No, No one's ever asked me for a cod.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
You're rich, like, nobody's asking you for money? Like, come on, Fred, listen,
it's been a tough time for me.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
No one's come on with the work, Fred and say
they knew you're from way back. When are they your
distant cousin from somewhere?
Speaker 5 (07:35):
You haven't gotten that.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I have not gotten that, to be very honest with you,
I really haven't, you know, and I've been really fortunate
in life, but I've never gotten that from any time
went to school.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
With Hey Fred Man, remember me, Man? The damn government,
these racist bastards. They shut down my they shut down
my crystal meth lab those races. Come on, Fred kicked
me down a few bucks. Nobody's ever hit you up
for cash.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
No, no one has ever hit me up for cash.
You know, the and the kids that would have and
I don't even know if they're alive anymore, but the
kids that would have would go to these parties on
the weekends, and that's when Eddie Ortiz ran out of
the house naked. I think we remember that story. Every
party that Eddie or Teas would go to, we'd come
running out of the house naked, and nobody could figure
(08:16):
out why.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Friend, did you go to school that any white people.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Talk about?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Its like, was there no diversity? Were you like Howard
Stern like you would do it like basically an all
black high school?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
So born in Detroit, I think you can pretty much
appreciate the demographic breakdown there.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yea hop skipping a jump away from Guadalajara.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I got you, and then I went to, you know,
move to Phoenix, and I think you can pretty much
understand the demographic breakdown there. So I'm a man of.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
The people, I guess, very cultured. Still nothing on Chico Schultz,
by the way.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, and by the way, lest I assume the nationality
of Edie Ortez. I mean, we don't have to go
very far for a confusion from this very show to
determine whether someone's name can determine their nationality or their lineage.
Because Jonahs has a brother named Tyrone.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That's right, We've talked about that.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, and a friend named Marcus. Yep, two of them,
and neither of them are black.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, Brady Quinn's dad Tyrone.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
But here's the thing. Here's the thing. And I asked
you that question before on the air because I was
really curious, you know, is that your real brother? He
answers yes. Now the reason, Kevin, the reason we draw
a certain conclusion as to what that means, just the
way you say it now and you just did it now,
(09:41):
what did I say? All right? We learned that Jonas's
brother is named after Toddrone Powers, the actor.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I think so. But but again, like I got a
lot of stories growing up, like I don't even know
what my nationality is, to be honest with the ideonomage
we've gone into that. But cool, I mean, it keeps
it easy. I've heard all sorts of stuff from my day. Well,
we're one fifth Blackfoot Indian. It's like, what really what?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Okay? But back to this, Tyrone Powers was a great,
great actor. But the way you say it, Kevin is Tyrone.
And that's why I came to the conclusion, I.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Know I'm with you, Fred. I didn't even realize it,
but now now I know Kevin's black.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I'm always people every now and then you know, Okay,
I understand.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Way to ruin the mystery, keV.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
But that's why, Kevin, it's the way you said it.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I said, so it's different. I say this is my
friend Tyrone versus and it's my homie Tyrone. Because I
was trying to say.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
That's that's what the Eric Dickerson voice, you know, he
Kevin be a good producer. Make Fred feel comfortable, please, Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
That's why I was confused. It's like when Jacob and
Ronny called you.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Yo, oh, Fred's trying to deflect Jonas.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
That's when I thought you were on me.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
In fairness, uh, I've been We we had a stretch
on this show when I would fill in where I
think we were at at least five to six straight
shows where I got called something different. It was either Jonas, Jonah, Jason.
What was the what was the other one? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(11:32):
there was one more and and just so people a
little peak behind the scenes here, just so people know
every time that happened, Yes, we noticed it, and the
first people that noticed it were myself, second to Ronnie
and Kevin, who both laughed in my ear the second
that somebody said it, like, hey man, sorry, I don't know.
I say whatever, that is what it is. You know,
(11:54):
people call what.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Did you want me to do? You think I didn't
notice it? What was I supposed to do? Yonas hoonus?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Well, yeah, like yonis, I get called back. You know
the in laws, you know their mexicanis or some of
them just say yonis like they have trouble pronouncing the jay. So, uh,
I don't know, Fred, I don't know. I don't know.
You're looking at me like that. I don't know. That's
just what they But I'm not offended by it. I
don't care.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Well if you're If Fred hears them speak, he clearly
knows the nationality they are by based on what they say,
So that's correct. I can decide for that instantaneously.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Do you don't think you thought that was an unfair
statement for me to make? Kevin.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
No, in some senses.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
No, No, it's okay. That's my point, JENNI your book
by its cover, Nah, I was. I was going by
what Kevin said. And here's the thing. I think we've
learned a lesson here again, every day, a life lesson.
If we don't learn something new every day, what happens
to us? Jonas, do you know what happens? One new
thing every single day? We have to learn?
Speaker 4 (12:53):
So what did you learn?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Fred? Here's what I First of all, if we don't
learn something every day, we die. Every day we have
to learn something. We look out, we see a tree,
never saw it before. Maybe it took a different route
to work. I don't know, maybe it had something different
to eat. Just change it up. We learned something every day,
and if we do that, we're a better person because
we're growing every single day. Here's what I learned. Not
(13:16):
to listen to the way Kevin says names. Oh gotcha?
All right, that's what I learned.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Okay, And you've learned that because his pronunciation of tyrone
makes you uncomfortable, it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Make me uncomfortable at all.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
It led me to a conclusion, just like Jacob and
Rondie calling you Yonis led me to believe you were
Amish or Jason.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
And by the way, Jason, I can understand it. It's
the same letters, it's just in different combination. And also,
I don't believe that there is an Amish person named Yonis.
I don't believe that. I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Do you know the homage No.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I would love to, but from what I gather, they
don't listen to this show really well.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I thought we were very big in the image community. Kevin,
can you book somebody from the homage community. That might
be a tough proposition, Fred, because they don't have phones.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yeah. Wow, I can go to the homage community and
invite someone and maybe they can bring their horse and
buggy over to one of our remotes, that Hollywood Park
or something.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Oh, it would be yeah, make them feel comfortable. Hey,
look there's more you're kind over there and she's a
bunch of horses, so you know, like, yeah, but I
do wonder this.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
And by the way, I did Grock Chico Shultz because
I really needed to get to the bottom of this.
What is Brock Well, groc is the X version of
AI And so I grocked. Okay, and a little bit
of the information I got on this because there was
nothing really on Chicos Shultz. But the second paragraph said
(14:55):
if this refers to someone else, more contexts would have
help arrowed down. Common search results often confuse it with
unrelated names like Charles M. Schultz, who was the Peanuts creator,
or Richard Dick Schultz, prosecutor in the Chicago seven trial.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Did you put his hair with shoulder length and black?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
With that help, I did not, but I can definitely
work on that as well too, so you can get
to the bottom of who Chico Shultz is for.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
As you know what I learned, I'm gonna stop calling
you Fred Rogan lest someone thinks that you're a Mexican
or something, so I'll make sure i'll stop doing that.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Listen, you don't know this, but I've had my uvula removed,
so I cannot roll ours or anything like that anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I've never been able to do it, Okay, and you
still have yours. Yeah, and I'm married to a Mexican.
Like It's just there's all sorts of confusion going on
in the house.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
No, but I'm saying, do you still have your Youvula,
I believe so where is it?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
It's like a little boxing glass that hangs down in
the back of your throat.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, when I had mind remove that took away any
sound like that or rolling of ours?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
God Fred, you sound like a lot lizard.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Vincenzo Bonci Boncia. We'll join the show next.
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Speaker 1 (16:38):
All right, Jonas not sitting in for Rodney today. Uh,
you know what, we do have to talk about Lebron,
but we're getting Vinnie on the phone. Want to do
a quick thing on Lebron first, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
So.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Lebron's great, Lebron's practicing two three, bron King, whatever you
want to call him. He's getting back, he's ready to role,
he's excited. The Lakers are ten and four without him.
You know what I say, I mean, aside from giving
Brownie a chance to start, which of course is everything. Uh,
and that's really why they're ten and four. But here's
(17:13):
what I say, No Rush lebron. Okay, we'll continue this
now we have Bennie. Now we have Bennie. All right, Vine,
are you there, Vinnie are you there?
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Got me? Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna ask you a question. Okay,
Jonas is laughing. I'm that serious about this. We've known
each other a long time, right, yeah, yes, very good,
I said earlier.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Just before Fred starts, be prepared to potentially be offended.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
No, don't be offended.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
But I'm not man, We don't get offended.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
All right, good, exactly. So I was going to I
was talking about bringing you on earlier because we're excited
you're here. We're friends, and I wanted to use your
formal name, and I said, joining the show will be
vincente Bonci.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Okay, close, what part the name is both? Actually it's
Vincenzo bone signor that's how you that's how you you
you pronounce it correctly. You know, I'll accept anything. So Vinniecenzo,
Big Vinnie, little Vinnie. You know, chens Vincenzo, Vince Vinnie.
(18:29):
You know, there's a there's a thousand ways to say it,
but the correct way is Vincenzo.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Okay, So I was close.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
You're close.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I was trying. I was trying to do something nice informal,
and then everybody yelled at me because I called you
vince Vincente.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Yeah, that would be the Spanish version of close close,
maybe not necessarily on the same continent. Well, yeah, it
would be the same. Well no, no, actually wouldn't be
the same continent.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
An I tried to do something nice.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Okay, it's out of love, so I always appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Thank you, Thank you, Vinik.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Did you think the Raiders were this bad? Like, because
I didn't think that they were going to be a
playoff team, but it seems like they're getting worse as
the season goes on, not better.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah. No, I didn't think they were gonna be this bad.
I didn't think I thought they would be, you know,
at the highest highest if everything went right, nine nine wins,
eight nine wins, that's if everything went right. As we've
seen pretty much, everything has gone wrong. You know, they've
had three chances for really to win games, and they were,
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you know, basically within an earshot of winning four games.
But that's but but when you can't do that, and
when you consistently miss on those opportunities or shoot yourself
in the foot. In those situations where the games are
actually competitive, it pretty much tells you where where you are.
And then then you have knights like last night, or
against the Kansas City Chiefs, or earlier this season against
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the Washington Commanders, where it's just it's just you're you're
at a serious disadvantage from a from a talent perspective
across the board. And it doesn't help, of course that
they're you know, they're missing their left tackle, Colton Miller,
they're missing their right guard Jackson Powers Johnson. I think
you saw the effects of those losses. This wasn't a
good offensive line, you know, even with their starters, but
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it's gotten even worse now because they're down probably they're
two best starters. So it's a there's a lot of
there's a lot of issues with this team. It's gonna
take a few years to get this right. Interestingly, Tom
Brady was in the building last night. I can't imagine
that the limited partner owner who's basically the de facto
president of football operations was was happy with what he
(20:51):
saw last night. There's no way he could have and
and you know, you wonder if that's going to spur
him to be even more involved. Now, after seeing what
this looks like, and you're one of him, kind of
being in charge of everything, albeit remotely, you wonder if
if it's maybe time for him to not to not
to take up more seriously, because I know he takes it,
takes it serious, but this is a full time job
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and to do it right, he needs to attack it
that way. And it'll be interesting if after seeing what
he saw last night, if he's gonna up the empty
a little bit in his involvement.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
What happened with Caleb Rodgers, the third round pick, with
the injuries on offensive line, there was some thought he
was going to get some playing time and then it
was ruled in active before the game.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Yeah, he just you know, his opportunity came last week
in practice, and from what I've been told, he didn't
take advantage of that opportunity. Now, there's there's two schools
of thought with that, and within the within the Raiders building,
there's two distinct, uh you know, uh schools of thought
on that. I think on the personnel side, their their
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whole thing is get him out there. You know, this
is how you get better is by getting reps. This
is a lost season for the Raiders who are not
going anywhere. Dress him out, play him, take your lumps,
even if he's not quite ready right now. That's how
you get him ready. There's eight games seven now for
you to make a determination on him in terms of
the viable piece moving forward. You know next year, can
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you count count on him next year? Is that a
position that you're going to have to go into free
agency or back into the draft to go get You
only find that out if he plays. And you know,
talking to some people last night, it should have never
come to the point where his debut is going to
be on Monday night against Dallas Cowboys. There were plenty
of opportunities earlier in the season for him to dress
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out and at least get some reps in during the
course of a couple of blueouts or when Jackson got
dinged up or Dylan Parham got dinged up. It shouldn't
have come to that. So that was a waste of
opportunity earlier in the season to get him a little
up to speed so that by this time when guys
invariably and inevitably get hurt, he would have been much
more prepared to show the coaches what they need did
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to see in practice last week and go out there
and acquit himself a little bit better than maybe he
would have been his tape.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
All right, Benny, So here's the question. One of two answers.
The Rams won impressive, won a tough game. Did the
Rams win because they won or did they win because
Seattle played poorly and lost?
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Which one? Well, I would say that I would say
primarily because Seattle played badly, But I will also say
this a little qualifier. When you can win a division
game when you're not even close to being on your
A game and their Rams were not on their A
game whatsoever. That was probably the worst game that Matthew
Stafford obviously this year and maybe in a while with
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the Rams. When you can still win a game against
a really good opponent and you have you have things
that you can fall back on when your primary strength
I throwing the ball at Matthew Stafford isn't working, that's
to me the mark of a good team. So so,
without a doubt, Sallo played badly. Sam Bradford or six
Sam Darnold had four interceptions, but also credit the Rams
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defense for putting him in that position. So I thought
it was actually more of a positive for the Rams
that you can win a game against a good opponent
not playing your egg game, not even close tofying your
egg games.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Vinny, when you watch the Rams, is it me or
are there times where like on Sunday, for example, Kyron
Williams is averaging at one point nine ten yards of
carry and I know a lot of it was on
a big run, but like they were having success running
the football and then he just disappears and they either
rotate in Blakekorn or they decide they're just they're going
to try and throw the ball. Like it feels like
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they go away from him when he's on the verge
of really, you know, having one of those games. And
I can't figure that out. I don't know if Sean
mcvay's trying to get Matthew Stafford the MVP, and I
say that half joking, but I can't figure out why
in a game like that, where your defense is playing
the way they are, you're getting Sam Darnold to throw
four picks. You can grind them down, grind that game
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out on the ground, and it feels like they go
the opposite.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Yeah, it felt like to me, what what Sean was
trying to do is get the knock out blow. You know,
you get up by fourteen points and then it was
a fourteen to three, you're kind of dabbling in that
world a little bit. I think they wanted to go
for the jugular right there, and yes, they they may
have got away from them from the run game in
that quest. And I also think, you know, in Seawn's head,
(25:31):
all right, Matthew is going to get back on track here.
It's just a matter of time before he hits a
big one and we're up three scores now and we
kind of coast home to this win. And so I
think did he try to force feed it maybe a
little bit to really get Matthew back on track. Probably,
And you know, in retrospect, had had I mean, Matthew
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to me missed a couple of open guys. If he
hits those guys, then we're not even having necessarily the
discussion because it looked great. And then you could always
go back to the on once you get up by
three scores, and now you really feature the run game
and leave the lead the clock out. So I think
there was a little bit of that, But I think
the reason that he did that was because there was
an opportunity really there to put the Seahawks away. It
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was just that Matthew's having kind of a rough day
and they weren't able to do that, and as a result,
they had to white bare knuckle it at the very
end and help somebody missed the field goal, and that's
exactly what happened.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Then he Chargers. That was awful, just awful. I can't
think of a bigger way to lay an egg. What
does that mean?
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Yeah, it's just they're not they're not they're not ready
to be to be to be that kind of a
team just yet, you know. And I don't know that
that's gonna I mean, obviously they've had injuries, so you
take that into account. But you got to go take
care of business against that Jacksonville Jacks. I saw them,
you know, two weeks ago, and they're not anything to
write home about whatsoever. I know, it's a long trip
(26:58):
out to Jacksonville, but good teams go down there and
take care of business. And and and the Chargers not
only did not take care of business, but you know,
they kind of got embarrassed a little bit. That can't
happen like you can lose a game honorably. You can
lose a game because you know, a tip ball or
whatever the case was. But you but you were competitive
and you and you put up a good fight to
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lose the way they did. That's a red flag, you
know for me. You know, conversely, especially when you've got
the Denver Broncos, who you know, on Thursday night look
really bad against the Raiders, and then they come back
and beat the Chiefs, you know, at home. Taking care
of business. That's what good teams do. And I'm not
even sure that the Broncos are a good team, but
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they take care of business when they need to. As
opposed to the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
The Chargers just don't look like a playoff team like that.
That's and I just wonder if Justin Herbert can survive,
you know, the injuries around him and all that for
only so long before it's like come on, like you Gackers,
Yeah yeah, And that's that's what I look at, and
it's like, well, you know, Justin Herbert got bench. I
think Jim Harbaugh realized, man, he's our only shot because
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he's the only one. I mean, like, first of all,
he can't be your leading rusher and he is a
lot of times, and it's with the injuries in the backfield,
the injuries on the offensive line. I just I think
you've got to just run him as far as you can,
but also maybe think keep an eye on the future, Like, man,
we don't want to get this guy damaged long term
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because he takes a pounding out there, and without him,
I can't imagine where this team would be.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Yeah, and you're absolutely right, in a game like that,
where it was, where it started getting out of hand,
you got to get him on the bench. I know
that that doesn't always sit well. It s hands, but
but you got to live to see another day, especially
with that quarterback. If he means so much, there's there's
probably not a player in the NFL, or you'd be
hard pressed to find a player in the NFL that
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means especially now with all those injuries and they don't
have any kind of a running game a player that
means as much, which as justin means to the Chargers.
So you got to protect him and fight for another day.
But you know, the NFL is definitely a battle of attrition,
and right now that battle is getting the best of
the Chargers because you can't sustain the type injuries that
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they have. You talk about the talent that they have
that's not on that offensive line, that's over there on
the bench somewhere watching from the sidelines. You're talking about
some really good players, and it's it's hard enough to
get those kind of players, let alone replace those kind
of players in mid season. It's almost impossible. It is impossible.
I'm just gonna say it. It's impossible to replace that
(29:34):
caliber of player. And right now you're seeing the effects
of that with the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
And I know that, Look, everybody deals with injuries, but
doesn't it feel like the Chargers have the worst luck
with injuries. Like every year there's some like major borderline
catastrophic to the team injury that they have to deal
with every year. And Charger fans are probably listening to this, going, yeah,
that's that's great. The season didn't even start. Rashawn Slater
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gets a long term extension and like an hour later
he blows his mee out. It's just I don't know
what it is that team.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
It's it's uncanny and you don't want to use the
dredded curse word or anything like that, but I mean,
it's a year after a year. And I mean, like,
like that's not hyperbole or exaggeration. It just always feels
like when it gets right down to it, they can
never really stay healthy with some of their premier players.
And again it's costly. Those offensive line is so hard
(30:30):
right now to really build a good offensive line and
to and to really get great players at their positions.
There's not many human beings that could be that big
and that fast, and that tough to deal with the
kind of uh, you know, defensive ends and defensive linemen
that that that are being produced nowadays as well. And
then when you lose both of them, oh my goodness,
that's like it's it's pretty much a non starter. You're
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not going to be able to replace guys like that.
So they're feeling that effect and and and as a result,
it affects your run game, your play calling, It affects
the health of your quarterback and the viability of your quarterback.
You can't call the same plays that you normally would.
And then also putting your quarterback in injuris and dangerous
a way, and he's taken a beating. I can't imagine
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that there's a quarterback in the league right now on
a good team, especially that that's that's taking the kind
of pounding that that Justin hasn't, and he's going to
feel that. I know he already is feeling it, but
as the season goes on and we get into December,
he's going to feel that even more. It gets a
little bit colder, the body starts feeling a little bit
more achy. He's not as mobile as he was. He's
(31:35):
maybe not, you know, able to really step in and
use the arm strength as as he normally would. So
they got to get it together. I don't know how,
because again, it's going to be hard to protect him
going down the stretch.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
All right, Well, thank you for protecting us today, Benny.
We really appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
You got it, and thank you for the outstanding try. Fred,
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Hey, I'm here for the people, and you're one of
the people, so I'm here for you.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Man always all right, there goes our good friend Vinnie
bon Signor should we continue when we come back the
Lebron conversation or do you want to do that later
and talk about smiling at Target? You get to pick.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Bet your show. I'm just a guest I don't want to.
I mean, what do you feel strongly about?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
All right? Well, smiling at Target because I don't think
if Lebron plays are not right.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, you've got you've got like what a lot of
people in this town have Lebron fatigue? Okay, so yeah,
maybe that's the better route to go.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
How much is a smile worth? That's next?
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Speaker 1 (33:05):
No right, Jonas Knox is in today for Rodney. Now,
have you heard the new rule about Target? Uh?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
No, I try and avoid that place.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Okay. So here's the deal. They've got a new rule.
They've talked to their employers, their employees, and they said, look,
business is down a bit, A lot of retails down, Jonas.
I don't know if you're aware of that. I found
these kinds of things I've heard, because you know what,
there's more to life than sports. We need to know
what's going on in our world.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
You know, Look, I'm with you. You know, I also
think you know, going and shopping in person is not
what it used to be.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Black Friday is a little different nowadays than what it
used to be.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, a lot of people get stuff online anyway. So
Target said, we're a little down. We got to figure
this out. We've got the answer. So they called everybody
in or they had a zoom call, they had meetings,
and they said, this is what we're going to do.
When you are in the store working, if someone a
customer happens to catch your eye and glance at you,
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you smile. You smile at every single person you see.
Smile at them. Rule number one, smile at every person
you see. By the way, if they get closer to you,
then you can engage, how's your day? How can I
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help you look great? You Also, if somebody catches your
eye from a distance, wave good to see you. Nice
seeing you here in the store. But the key here
is if you make eye contact with somebody, smile at them.
(34:56):
The company believes that will encourage more people to come
into the store and ultimately buy something because they feel
good because they feel welcomed, because they feel at home.
What do you think of this philosophy?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Well, I guess look smiling at people when they walk
into your business or whatever, like, all of that is nice.
You know, it is a pleasant approach to somebody's shop
because there you know, a lot of times now if
you go into the store, it feels like there are
some people working at the store that are just miserable
having to be there, Like they don't want to be there,
(35:31):
they don't want to deal with you customer service. It
feels like it's at a low point for all of
us here, and so that's a little disheartening. But you know,
if you can go into a place and they're going
to smile at you, and that's sort of the rule
that's been handed down by the company, I'm all with that.
Here's where I think we're getting. I don't know a
little bit. There's a couple of different ways this could go.
(35:54):
When they tell you if they get closer to you,
you can engage. Well, what are we talking about here?
I mean, is this like the old uh, you know,
six feet of you know, social distancing and you know,
keep six feet away if they get within six feet
you can then talk. Is it within five feet? Is
it within four feet?
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Like?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
How close do they have to be before you can
engage in conversation? That if we're being honest here, if
they wanted to engage in conversation, they would have already
done it at that point.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
It feels like, yeah, I think it's first you want
to shout at somebody. You know, they're three aisles down. Hey,
how are you?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
You know, well, you've you've never lived with Mexican, So
that's fun.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Okay, Chico Schultz to you. Don't you don't want to
do that. I think if they just you know, get
within a reasonable distance, the company wants you to engage
with them. But here's my concern. I don't know how
you are when you go shopping, but I know how
I am.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, I'm uh yeah, but I'll let you go. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
And you know, I don't really want to talk to
anybody when I go. If I go to Target, for example,
and by the way, I've been to Target, or some
call it Targa, but.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I've been people man of the people like, come on.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Right, if I walk and Target's giganic and I never
know where I'm going but I know I go for
a specific reason. I will walk up and ask somebody,
excuse me, where are home goods? All you need to
tell me is I'le twelve. That's it. I'm good. I
don't need anything else answered for me. I'm going to
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Aisle twelve. Don't care. You don't have to engage me,
you don't have to talk to me. I'm just and
I'm pleasant. Hey, where's home goods? Aisle twelve? Great? I
don't need to say anything else, Jonas, I prefer you
not scowled at me when I asked. A smile would
be nice. But aside from that, I don't really care,
and it's not going to encourage me to go back.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I only ask for help finding something if it's the
last resort. Other than that, it's almost like a puzzle,
like a maze. If you will to where I'm like,
you know, let me see if I can find this,
Because like the stores that I go to, I'll go
to Ralph's and look, man, I know where everything is.
I know how to get in get out of there.
I know where to park, to exit the parking lot
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more efficiently like that, like I'm going in there to
get everything. I need and get the hell out of there.
It's like the gym. When you go to the gym,
some people like to hang out and camp out and
have conversations. I'm get in, get your workout, and get
the hell out of there. There's better things to do
than sit in a gym and watch some zero posts
on his Instagram while you're waiting to use the you know,
the preacher curl machine, Like, dude, move on, I got
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to get to that bench. You need to go elsewhere.
We go to the store, like I don't really care
about having conversations, Like I don't really talk to many
of the workers there because I go in with the
idea and mindset of I'm gonna find this, this is
my duty. They're busy with more important things. I don't
want to be a pest, so I'm not going to
bug them unless it's last resort and I have to
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ask them because I just can't find what I'm looking for.
That's my approach. So it doesn't offend me if people
don't smile at me, because there's nothing really to smile at.
I'm just a person going in to get what they
need and get the hell out of there.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
You know what, that's really interesting. See, and that's the
difference between the two of us. I'm being dead serious here.
I'd be the first guy to walk in someplace and go,
where is this? How can I do this? Where can
I find this? I do not want to search for
anything on my own nothing. I want to do things
the most efficient way possible. Hi, I'm here, I need
a screwdriver. Where are those? Please? Well they're an aisle fifteen. Great. Thanks.
(39:33):
I don't look for anything I walk in. Hi, I'm
at best Buy. I need to buy a TV. Where
are this size TVs? Right there? Thank you. I have
asked people questions and the answer was directly in front
of me. Excuse me, where can I find batteries? Well,
if you look directly to your right there, right in
front of you.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Wait, if batteries are one thing, you go into best
Buy and ask where the TVs are?
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Well, I was asking for a specific TV.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Well, okay, you been to best Buy? That is their thing.
Like they don't have TVs. They've got an entire section basically,
you know, showing every concoction of television and and what
you can do and how your home setup could look like.
TV's are the easiest thing in the world to find
(40:18):
in the Best Buy.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yes, that's fair, except I wanted a specific TV. Do
have this one?
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Number one? But didn't? And did they tell you? Did
they walk you over or did they just say, yeah,
it's over there with the rest of the TVs?
Speaker 1 (40:32):
They walked me over.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Okay, I don't think they. You don't think they. You know,
there's probably something better for them to do at that point.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
I'm sure there was. But I always I always act
like I'm completely oblivious and totally lost. Also, so I
get in all the places I get into because I
act like I don't even know what I'm doing. I
just have to show up places, and.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
That's a good approach. I would also say this this morning,
I went to Vond's to get some stuff out after
the show because we needed eggs and some other stuff.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
And uh.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Uh, the one off arbalis you know, off the twenty three.
Let me, Yeah, you're you're not willing to slum it
on on the twenty three, Fred, we know, like that's
that's beneath you.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
There's some very nice areas off the twenty three. I'm
not saying where you are is I don't know, but
there are some very nice areas.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
That's definitely, uh a fair point by you. Definitely not mine.
But I was in the vonds off Arblus and I
forgot to grab a bag before I left because this
was early morning before work, and I was like, I'll
just stop there after work. So I needed to get
the plastic bag.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Stop stop stop, why stop? You're not somebody that brings
a bag from the house.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Oh yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Bring a bag from the house.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Well, because the bag that we have is actually a
bag that we that I got some gifts from my
wife and son from super Bowl week and so the
bags are really sturdy, and so I'm like, yeah, these
are much easier. You can fit more in them.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Is it a forign concept or odd concept that you
bring your own bags to the store of Fred? Because
I feel like maybe not most a great majority I
do it. Ronnie says he brings his own head to Fred.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
I've got a nice Trader Joe's bag that I haul
around with me everywhere.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Matter of fact, that riple and sturdy.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
I have many Trader Joe's bags and I keep him
on trunk. Did I take my door?
Speaker 1 (42:19):
But do you go to other stores beside Trader Jones. Absolutely,
and use the bags absolutely, Fred, fredi'sier.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
You don't mind paying a fee, Fred for a piece
of plastic eight fred It, I can't go with that.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Bringing your own bag is the like the one time
that you can brag about being a whore because it
showcases everybody in that store. Oh, he's willing to go
to Home Goods and to Target and to Ralph's and
Vaughn's and the Dollar Tree. He'll go at anybody like
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you can walk into whatever store with whatever bag you got,
and I like to take multiple different bags just to
let him know. I sleep around. Okay, I shop around.
I'm a slut. And what are you going to do
about it? Not a damn thing, And I'm not paying
your ten cent fee for it. But this morning I
forgot to press that I needed one plastic bag. I
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pressed zero on accident, and I went and self reported
the violation so that they could come over and add
on the ten cents for me, and they appreciated me
being honest about it. Put that in your pipe and
smoke it, Fred.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
No, No, I would report that self violation. I would,
and I do pay, and I do pay the dime.
I'm being honest, and what would you do?
Speaker 2 (43:35):
You say? Since I reported it? Can I give you
a half?
Speaker 1 (43:38):
I'll give you a nickel. We'll call the date.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
No, come home.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
But every time I pay that dime, you know what
I say? What's that? God? This is stupid? Every time?
This is stupid, stupid to pay a dime.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
So bring it back from home.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
I won't do it.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
So why won't you bring a bag from home?
Speaker 1 (43:57):
What au the centrarian? I won't do it. I'm a
f a guy that doesn't know what can to put
stuff in. And we've gone over that for Fred. Are
you a plastic bag hoarder? I'm not a hoarder.
Speaker 4 (44:07):
What do you do with all those plastic bags that
you spend ten cents for every single time you go
to the store?
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Fred, how many?
Speaker 4 (44:13):
What do you do with those bags?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Fred?
Speaker 2 (44:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
That's why we're asking Fred.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
How many seagulls and turtles have have been strangled to
death because of your bonds?
Speaker 4 (44:23):
How much poison have you leached into the environment because
of your your ten cents? Fred, I'm gonna have to
have a bag.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Plastic stamination at the hands of Fred Rogan. It's our
oceans poison.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
You know what, We're going to continue this because then
I have a very important put. No, I'm serious, I'm
gonna ask you a question.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
I'm going to investigate you, Fred.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Listen, many have tried just go running. No, I'm gonna
ask you a question when we come back, and I
think it will explain everything on this topic. Also, next
hour we'll get caught up on its lit. Do you
ever want to talk about Lebron.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Jonny, I mean, he's making his triumphant return. Where would
they be without him? We have to you're ten and four, yeah,
but maybe they would have been eleven and three.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
All Right, we'll get to it.
All right, we continue on Fred Rogan Jonas knaxon today
for Rodney A five seventy LA Sports later this hour,
vincente bon Signore, we'll join the show.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
That's what we're going with.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Now, Yeah, that's his that's our NFL insider, vincente bon Signore,
we'll join the show coming up later on in the hour.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
So was he like half Mexican half Italian?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Or I think Fred, what you meant to say was Vincenzo?
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Is that what I meant? Yes, yes, it's not been sent.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
To corrections and retractions on you miss.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
He says, half Mexican half what I mean?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Fred?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Fred, do you know what you should do when he
comes on to say, well, what's the difference? The flags
look the same and see how that lands over?
Speaker 6 (00:50):
Well?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Absolutely? Did you just call him Vindie bon signor Fred?
Speaker 5 (00:53):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Because I want to call him by his full name.
I just gooped him. I'll ask him when he comes on.
But you know, okay, let me ask you this then?
What nationality is a man I've talked about in the past.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Chico Schultz, Hey, hey, Kevin, you ever had chicken palm tacos?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Although now that you mention it. I'm actually intrigued by that.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
So I think they have those out in the desert, right, Fred,
So what is.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Chico Schultz in? What nationality is that?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I mean he could be half Mexican, half Jewish. I
don't know, you know, Chico, what is he?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Fred? Why would Chico Schultz be half Mexican and half Jewish?
I know what Chico is. Chico is the man, thank you,
Ronnie nice Pole. Nice Pole. No, he was Mexican and German,
Chico Schultz. So you can't just think when you hear
someone's name that it automatically indicates there're a certain way.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Nothing like seeing a sombrero at a Ramstein concert.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
No, right, okay, anyway, Vincenzo will be on Vinnie Bonnor.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
By the way, why am I googling Chico Schultz? Why
am I doing this?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Look him up? See where he is?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I don't see any like there's nothing here I'm like
looking at Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
He played third base for Phoenix Union. Okay, does that
have his career stats? Third basement, Phoenix Union High School?
Chico Schultz.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Now, I got to do a real dive on this.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
As a matter of fact that I don't know if
I mentioned this, Kevin to you. I was invited to
my most recent high school reunion. I didn't go. I
don't go to them.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I mean important.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Well, no I'm not try nothing's coming up.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I'm looking Chico Schultz Phoenix union. And like the third
option on, there is list of people who disappeared mysteriously.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Well there, now we know what happened to him.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Okay, well yeah, bad as.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Bad against Carl Hayden and he was gone done. Okay,
it happens, allright, No, I'm not too good. I went
to my tenure reunion and that's when I showed up
and I talked to a guy who didn't have any team,
and that bothered me. And I had the conversation with
the guy about welding for forty five minutes. And that
was only ten years after high school.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Fred the Sheer didn't show up to a homeless encampment thing?
Is this the ten year.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Get lost?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
You do get lost a lot for it shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Be Friend's like, why everybody? Why is everybody walking around
with a Vaughn's bag full of aluminum cans? What am
I missing here? Can anybody wear the same pair of shoes?
Or do you have like different what's going on here?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Anyway? Another reason I didn't go, And this is terrible,
and if you've been to your reunion you understand this.
I went and there was this table and it had
all these pictures in it. When I first walked in,
I thought, oh my god, these people are obviously being
celebrated for incredible accomplishments. No, they were dead. I was like, oh,
this is such a downer. It was horrible. All right,
I'll get a drink, right Seah, where's the bar? So
(03:50):
now I had another reunion. Whatever number it was is irrelevant.
I didn't go, thank god. But they sent out some
videos and stuff and I was mortified. First of all
of the people that went, I really didn't know any
of them, Like two people I knew, Gilbert Garcia. I
think we all remember Gilbert.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
He's German too.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
There are another ones Africa.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
So there was that, and then they sent out this
video and I cried. I can't believe how many people
I went to school with aren't alive anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
It was terrible.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
It was terrible, and I thought, God, do I really
want to see this? Because you know, as people get
older and you guys probably know this well, of course
you don't because you're not there yet, but you will
be a lot too. When you think, you know, the
only time you hear from people is when something bad happens.
Have you experienced that yet in your life?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I mean yeah, that's yeah. Basically, it's like, hey, if
you need anything, let me know. It's like, hey, if
there's anything I can do, you know, let me know. Well, yeah,
you could have showed up, you know, at some point
while they were still alive and in the last twenty
five years.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
But I mean, like this, phone rings. You haven't talked
to somebody in thirty years? Phone rings? You answer, you
have the name of the person obviously in your phone.
You go, Hi, Oh my god, did you hear? Well? First,
why would I hear I haven't talked to you in
thirty years? Well, you heard about old whatever his name was.
I said, no, will you remember him, don't you? I went, well,
(05:26):
kind of, I'm not sure. Well, we were in science
class biology together.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I went, come on, Fred, you don't remember Willis Goldberg.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
It was like that, and I'm like, no, I got
to tell you what happened. It's terrible. Okay, So now
I haven't talked to you in thirty years and you're
gonna tell me a story about someone I don't remember,
and all I know is it's gonna be terrible. Tell me,
Oh my god, you know he'd gone through so much
and he finally got a job. Oh that's good to know.
(05:55):
I thank god. So this has a happy ending. No
it doesn't. This is a true story. So he was
working for like the Department of Roads. I said, all right,
So he was out working on the road. Yeah, a tractor.
A tractor backed up and ran over him and killed him. Hey,
(06:20):
I went, oh my god. And the person says to me,
can you even go on? This is so upsetting, And
I'm thinking, yes, it's upsetting, but I don't even know
who you're talking about. Yeah, and I haven't heard from
you in thirty years.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I mean the real victims the tractor. So, by the way,
just to open up the show, you should have said
this segment brought to you by John Deere. I'll say
that would have been nice, just to see how that
would have landed.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I guess my guess, friend, is you either get those
or you get like, oh Frey, what's going on? I'm
willis whatever? Like a Jonah said a second ago, Goldberg, Goldberg.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Are you a murmer me for fourth grade?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
So I'll turned on to TV the other day and
I saw you making that big TV money. Huh, So
I'd have fallen on a little bit of hard times,
you know what I'm saying. So you can break off
a couple of you know, twenty five thousand dollars a
way that joy.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Anybody ever ask you for money, Fred, Anybody ask for
handouts because you're because you're probably the most famous person
from your class. No, anybody ask for cash.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
No, No, No one's ever asked me for a cod.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
You're rich, like, nobody's asking you for money? Like, come on, Fred, listen,
it's been a tough time for me.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
No one's come on with the work, Fred and say
they knew you're from way back. When are they your
distant cousin from somewhere?
Speaker 5 (07:35):
You haven't gotten that.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I have not gotten that, to be very honest with you,
I really haven't, you know, and I've been really fortunate
in life, but I've never gotten that from any time
went to school.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
With Hey Fred Man, remember me, Man? The damn government,
these racist bastards. They shut down my they shut down
my crystal meth lab those races. Come on, Fred kicked
me down a few bucks. Nobody's ever hit you up
for cash.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
No, no one has ever hit me up for cash.
You know, the and the kids that would have and
I don't even know if they're alive anymore, but the
kids that would have would go to these parties on
the weekends, and that's when Eddie Ortiz ran out of
the house naked. I think we remember that story. Every
party that Eddie or Teas would go to, we'd come
running out of the house naked, and nobody could figure
(08:16):
out why.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Friend, did you go to school that any white people.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Talk about?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Its like, was there no diversity? Were you like Howard
Stern like you would do it like basically an all
black high school?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
So born in Detroit, I think you can pretty much
appreciate the demographic breakdown there.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yea hop skipping a jump away from Guadalajara.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I got you, and then I went to, you know,
move to Phoenix, and I think you can pretty much
understand the demographic breakdown there. So I'm a man of.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
The people, I guess, very cultured. Still nothing on Chico Schultz,
by the way.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, and by the way, lest I assume the nationality
of Edie Ortez. I mean, we don't have to go
very far for a confusion from this very show to
determine whether someone's name can determine their nationality or their lineage.
Because Jonahs has a brother named Tyrone.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That's right, We've talked about that.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, and a friend named Marcus. Yep, two of them,
and neither of them are black.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, Brady Quinn's dad Tyrone.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
But here's the thing. Here's the thing. And I asked
you that question before on the air because I was
really curious, you know, is that your real brother? He
answers yes. Now the reason, Kevin, the reason we draw
a certain conclusion as to what that means, just the
way you say it now and you just did it now,
(09:41):
what did I say? All right? We learned that Jonas's
brother is named after Toddrone Powers, the actor.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I think so. But but again, like I got a
lot of stories growing up, like I don't even know
what my nationality is, to be honest with the ideonomage
we've gone into that. But cool, I mean, it keeps
it easy. I've heard all sorts of stuff from my day. Well,
we're one fifth Blackfoot Indian. It's like, what really what?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Okay? But back to this, Tyrone Powers was a great,
great actor. But the way you say it, Kevin is Tyrone.
And that's why I came to the conclusion, I.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Know I'm with you, Fred. I didn't even realize it,
but now now I know Kevin's black.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I'm always people every now and then you know, Okay,
I understand.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Way to ruin the mystery, keV.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
But that's why, Kevin, it's the way you said it.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I said, so it's different. I say this is my
friend Tyrone versus and it's my homie Tyrone. Because I
was trying to say.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
That's that's what the Eric Dickerson voice, you know, he
Kevin be a good producer. Make Fred feel comfortable, please, Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
That's why I was confused. It's like when Jacob and
Ronny called you.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Yo, oh, Fred's trying to deflect Jonas.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
That's when I thought you were on me.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
In fairness, uh, I've been We we had a stretch
on this show when I would fill in where I
think we were at at least five to six straight
shows where I got called something different. It was either Jonas, Jonah, Jason.
What was the what was the other one? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(11:32):
there was one more and and just so people a
little peak behind the scenes here, just so people know
every time that happened, Yes, we noticed it, and the
first people that noticed it were myself, second to Ronnie
and Kevin, who both laughed in my ear the second
that somebody said it, like, hey man, sorry, I don't know.
I say whatever, that is what it is. You know,
(11:54):
people call what.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Did you want me to do? You think I didn't
notice it? What was I supposed to do? Yonas hoonus?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Well, yeah, like yonis, I get called back. You know
the in laws, you know their mexicanis or some of
them just say yonis like they have trouble pronouncing the jay. So, uh,
I don't know, Fred, I don't know. I don't know.
You're looking at me like that. I don't know. That's
just what they But I'm not offended by it. I
don't care.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Well if you're If Fred hears them speak, he clearly
knows the nationality they are by based on what they say,
So that's correct. I can decide for that instantaneously.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Do you don't think you thought that was an unfair
statement for me to make? Kevin.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
No, in some senses.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
No, No, it's okay. That's my point, JENNI your book
by its cover, Nah, I was. I was going by
what Kevin said. And here's the thing. I think we've
learned a lesson here again, every day, a life lesson.
If we don't learn something new every day, what happens
to us? Jonas, do you know what happens? One new
thing every single day? We have to learn?
Speaker 4 (12:53):
So what did you learn?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Fred? Here's what I First of all, if we don't
learn something every day, we die. Every day we have
to learn something. We look out, we see a tree,
never saw it before. Maybe it took a different route
to work. I don't know, maybe it had something different
to eat. Just change it up. We learned something every day,
and if we do that, we're a better person because
we're growing every single day. Here's what I learned. Not
(13:16):
to listen to the way Kevin says names. Oh gotcha?
All right, that's what I learned.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Okay, And you've learned that because his pronunciation of tyrone
makes you uncomfortable, it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Make me uncomfortable at all.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
It led me to a conclusion, just like Jacob and
Rondie calling you Yonis led me to believe you were
Amish or Jason.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
And by the way, Jason, I can understand it. It's
the same letters, it's just in different combination. And also,
I don't believe that there is an Amish person named Yonis.
I don't believe that. I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Do you know the homage No.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I would love to, but from what I gather, they
don't listen to this show really well.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I thought we were very big in the image community. Kevin,
can you book somebody from the homage community. That might
be a tough proposition, Fred, because they don't have phones.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yeah. Wow, I can go to the homage community and
invite someone and maybe they can bring their horse and
buggy over to one of our remotes, that Hollywood Park
or something.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Oh, it would be yeah, make them feel comfortable. Hey,
look there's more you're kind over there and she's a
bunch of horses, so you know, like, yeah, but I
do wonder this.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
And by the way, I did Grock Chico Shultz because
I really needed to get to the bottom of this.
What is Brock Well, groc is the X version of
AI And so I grocked. Okay, and a little bit
of the information I got on this because there was
nothing really on Chicos Shultz. But the second paragraph said
(14:55):
if this refers to someone else, more contexts would have
help arrowed down. Common search results often confuse it with
unrelated names like Charles M. Schultz, who was the Peanuts creator,
or Richard Dick Schultz, prosecutor in the Chicago seven trial.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Did you put his hair with shoulder length and black?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
With that help, I did not, but I can definitely
work on that as well too, so you can get
to the bottom of who Chico Shultz is for.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
As you know what I learned, I'm gonna stop calling
you Fred Rogan lest someone thinks that you're a Mexican
or something, so I'll make sure i'll stop doing that.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Listen, you don't know this, but I've had my uvula removed,
so I cannot roll ours or anything like that anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I've never been able to do it, Okay, and you
still have yours. Yeah, and I'm married to a Mexican.
Like It's just there's all sorts of confusion going on
in the house.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
No, but I'm saying, do you still have your Youvula,
I believe so where is it?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
It's like a little boxing glass that hangs down in
the back of your throat.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, when I had mind remove that took away any
sound like that or rolling of ours?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
God Fred, you sound like a lot lizard.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Vincenzo Bonci Boncia. We'll join the show next.
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Speaker 1 (16:38):
All right, Jonas not sitting in for Rodney today. Uh,
you know what, we do have to talk about Lebron,
but we're getting Vinnie on the phone. Want to do
a quick thing on Lebron first, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
So.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Lebron's great, Lebron's practicing two three, bron King, whatever you
want to call him. He's getting back, he's ready to role,
he's excited. The Lakers are ten and four without him.
You know what I say, I mean, aside from giving
Brownie a chance to start, which of course is everything. Uh,
and that's really why they're ten and four. But here's
(17:13):
what I say, No Rush lebron. Okay, we'll continue this
now we have Bennie. Now we have Bennie. All right, Vine,
are you there, Vinnie are you there?
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Got me? Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna ask you a question. Okay,
Jonas is laughing. I'm that serious about this. We've known
each other a long time, right, yeah, yes, very good,
I said earlier.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Just before Fred starts, be prepared to potentially be offended.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
No, don't be offended.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
But I'm not man, We don't get offended.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
All right, good, exactly. So I was going to I
was talking about bringing you on earlier because we're excited
you're here. We're friends, and I wanted to use your
formal name, and I said, joining the show will be
vincente Bonci.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Okay, close, what part the name is both? Actually it's
Vincenzo bone signor that's how you that's how you you
you pronounce it correctly. You know, I'll accept anything. So Vinniecenzo,
Big Vinnie, little Vinnie. You know, chens Vincenzo, Vince Vinnie.
(18:29):
You know, there's a there's a thousand ways to say it,
but the correct way is Vincenzo.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Okay, So I was close.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
You're close.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I was trying. I was trying to do something nice informal,
and then everybody yelled at me because I called you
vince Vincente.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Yeah, that would be the Spanish version of close close,
maybe not necessarily on the same continent. Well, yeah, it
would be the same. Well no, no, actually wouldn't be
the same continent.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
An I tried to do something nice.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Okay, it's out of love, so I always appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Thank you, Thank you, Vinik.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Did you think the Raiders were this bad? Like, because
I didn't think that they were going to be a
playoff team, but it seems like they're getting worse as
the season goes on, not better.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah. No, I didn't think they were gonna be this bad.
I didn't think I thought they would be, you know,
at the highest highest if everything went right, nine nine wins,
eight nine wins, that's if everything went right. As we've
seen pretty much, everything has gone wrong. You know, they've
had three chances for really to win games, and they were,
(19:44):
you know, basically within an earshot of winning four games.
But that's but but when you can't do that, and
when you consistently miss on those opportunities or shoot yourself
in the foot. In those situations where the games are
actually competitive, it pretty much tells you where where you are.
And then then you have knights like last night, or
against the Kansas City Chiefs, or earlier this season against
(20:05):
the Washington Commanders, where it's just it's just you're you're
at a serious disadvantage from a from a talent perspective
across the board. And it doesn't help, of course that
they're you know, they're missing their left tackle, Colton Miller,
they're missing their right guard Jackson Powers Johnson. I think
you saw the effects of those losses. This wasn't a
good offensive line, you know, even with their starters, but
(20:29):
it's gotten even worse now because they're down probably they're
two best starters. So it's a there's a lot of
there's a lot of issues with this team. It's gonna
take a few years to get this right. Interestingly, Tom
Brady was in the building last night. I can't imagine
that the limited partner owner who's basically the de facto
president of football operations was was happy with what he
(20:51):
saw last night. There's no way he could have and
and you know, you wonder if that's going to spur
him to be even more involved. Now, after seeing what
this looks like, and you're one of him, kind of
being in charge of everything, albeit remotely, you wonder if
if it's maybe time for him to not to not
to take up more seriously, because I know he takes it,
takes it serious, but this is a full time job
(21:13):
and to do it right, he needs to attack it
that way. And it'll be interesting if after seeing what
he saw last night, if he's gonna up the empty
a little bit in his involvement.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
What happened with Caleb Rodgers, the third round pick, with
the injuries on offensive line, there was some thought he
was going to get some playing time and then it
was ruled in active before the game.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Yeah, he just you know, his opportunity came last week
in practice, and from what I've been told, he didn't
take advantage of that opportunity. Now, there's there's two schools
of thought with that, and within the within the Raiders building,
there's two distinct, uh you know, uh schools of thought
on that. I think on the personnel side, their their
(21:56):
whole thing is get him out there. You know, this
is how you get better is by getting reps. This
is a lost season for the Raiders who are not
going anywhere. Dress him out, play him, take your lumps,
even if he's not quite ready right now. That's how
you get him ready. There's eight games seven now for
you to make a determination on him in terms of
the viable piece moving forward. You know next year, can
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you count count on him next year? Is that a
position that you're going to have to go into free
agency or back into the draft to go get You
only find that out if he plays. And you know,
talking to some people last night, it should have never
come to the point where his debut is going to
be on Monday night against Dallas Cowboys. There were plenty
of opportunities earlier in the season for him to dress
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out and at least get some reps in during the
course of a couple of blueouts or when Jackson got
dinged up or Dylan Parham got dinged up. It shouldn't
have come to that. So that was a waste of
opportunity earlier in the season to get him a little
up to speed so that by this time when guys
invariably and inevitably get hurt, he would have been much
more prepared to show the coaches what they need did
(23:00):
to see in practice last week and go out there
and acquit himself a little bit better than maybe he
would have been his tape.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
All right, Benny, So here's the question. One of two answers.
The Rams won impressive, won a tough game. Did the
Rams win because they won or did they win because
Seattle played poorly and lost?
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Which one? Well, I would say that I would say
primarily because Seattle played badly, But I will also say
this a little qualifier. When you can win a division
game when you're not even close to being on your
A game and their Rams were not on their A
game whatsoever. That was probably the worst game that Matthew
Stafford obviously this year and maybe in a while with
(23:45):
the Rams. When you can still win a game against
a really good opponent and you have you have things
that you can fall back on when your primary strength
I throwing the ball at Matthew Stafford isn't working, that's
to me the mark of a good team. So so,
without a doubt, Sallo played badly. Sam Bradford or six
Sam Darnold had four interceptions, but also credit the Rams
(24:08):
defense for putting him in that position. So I thought
it was actually more of a positive for the Rams
that you can win a game against a good opponent
not playing your egg game, not even close tofying your
egg games.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Vinny, when you watch the Rams, is it me or
are there times where like on Sunday, for example, Kyron
Williams is averaging at one point nine ten yards of
carry and I know a lot of it was on
a big run, but like they were having success running
the football and then he just disappears and they either
rotate in Blakekorn or they decide they're just they're going
to try and throw the ball. Like it feels like
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they go away from him when he's on the verge
of really, you know, having one of those games. And
I can't figure that out. I don't know if Sean
mcvay's trying to get Matthew Stafford the MVP, and I
say that half joking, but I can't figure out why
in a game like that, where your defense is playing
the way they are, you're getting Sam Darnold to throw
four picks. You can grind them down, grind that game
(25:05):
out on the ground, and it feels like they go
the opposite.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Yeah, it felt like to me, what what Sean was
trying to do is get the knock out blow. You know,
you get up by fourteen points and then it was
a fourteen to three, you're kind of dabbling in that
world a little bit. I think they wanted to go
for the jugular right there, and yes, they they may
have got away from them from the run game in
that quest. And I also think, you know, in Seawn's head,
(25:31):
all right, Matthew is going to get back on track here.
It's just a matter of time before he hits a
big one and we're up three scores now and we
kind of coast home to this win. And so I
think did he try to force feed it maybe a
little bit to really get Matthew back on track. Probably,
And you know, in retrospect, had had I mean, Matthew
(25:52):
to me missed a couple of open guys. If he
hits those guys, then we're not even having necessarily the
discussion because it looked great. And then you could always
go back to the on once you get up by
three scores, and now you really feature the run game
and leave the lead the clock out. So I think
there was a little bit of that, But I think
the reason that he did that was because there was
an opportunity really there to put the Seahawks away. It
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was just that Matthew's having kind of a rough day
and they weren't able to do that, and as a result,
they had to white bare knuckle it at the very
end and help somebody missed the field goal, and that's
exactly what happened.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Then he Chargers. That was awful, just awful. I can't
think of a bigger way to lay an egg. What
does that mean?
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Yeah, it's just they're not they're not they're not ready
to be to be to be that kind of a
team just yet, you know. And I don't know that
that's gonna I mean, obviously they've had injuries, so you
take that into account. But you got to go take
care of business against that Jacksonville Jacks. I saw them,
you know, two weeks ago, and they're not anything to
write home about whatsoever. I know, it's a long trip
(26:58):
out to Jacksonville, but good teams go down there and
take care of business. And and and the Chargers not
only did not take care of business, but you know,
they kind of got embarrassed a little bit. That can't
happen like you can lose a game honorably. You can
lose a game because you know, a tip ball or
whatever the case was. But you but you were competitive
and you and you put up a good fight to
(27:19):
lose the way they did. That's a red flag, you
know for me. You know, conversely, especially when you've got
the Denver Broncos, who you know, on Thursday night look
really bad against the Raiders, and then they come back
and beat the Chiefs, you know, at home. Taking care
of business. That's what good teams do. And I'm not
even sure that the Broncos are a good team, but
(27:40):
they take care of business when they need to. As
opposed to the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
The Chargers just don't look like a playoff team like that.
That's and I just wonder if Justin Herbert can survive,
you know, the injuries around him and all that for
only so long before it's like come on, like you Gackers,
Yeah yeah, And that's that's what I look at, and
it's like, well, you know, Justin Herbert got bench. I
think Jim Harbaugh realized, man, he's our only shot because
(28:07):
he's the only one. I mean, like, first of all,
he can't be your leading rusher and he is a
lot of times, and it's with the injuries in the backfield,
the injuries on the offensive line. I just I think
you've got to just run him as far as you can,
but also maybe think keep an eye on the future, Like, man,
we don't want to get this guy damaged long term
(28:27):
because he takes a pounding out there, and without him,
I can't imagine where this team would be.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Yeah, and you're absolutely right, in a game like that,
where it was, where it started getting out of hand,
you got to get him on the bench. I know
that that doesn't always sit well. It s hands, but
but you got to live to see another day, especially
with that quarterback. If he means so much, there's there's
probably not a player in the NFL, or you'd be
hard pressed to find a player in the NFL that
(28:53):
means especially now with all those injuries and they don't
have any kind of a running game a player that
means as much, which as justin means to the Chargers.
So you got to protect him and fight for another day.
But you know, the NFL is definitely a battle of attrition,
and right now that battle is getting the best of
the Chargers because you can't sustain the type injuries that
(29:14):
they have. You talk about the talent that they have
that's not on that offensive line, that's over there on
the bench somewhere watching from the sidelines. You're talking about
some really good players, and it's it's hard enough to
get those kind of players, let alone replace those kind
of players in mid season. It's almost impossible. It is impossible.
I'm just gonna say it. It's impossible to replace that
(29:34):
caliber of player. And right now you're seeing the effects
of that with the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
And I know that, Look, everybody deals with injuries, but
doesn't it feel like the Chargers have the worst luck
with injuries. Like every year there's some like major borderline
catastrophic to the team injury that they have to deal
with every year. And Charger fans are probably listening to this, going, yeah,
that's that's great. The season didn't even start. Rashawn Slater
(30:01):
gets a long term extension and like an hour later
he blows his mee out. It's just I don't know
what it is that team.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
It's it's uncanny and you don't want to use the
dredded curse word or anything like that, but I mean,
it's a year after a year. And I mean, like,
like that's not hyperbole or exaggeration. It just always feels
like when it gets right down to it, they can
never really stay healthy with some of their premier players.
And again it's costly. Those offensive line is so hard
(30:30):
right now to really build a good offensive line and
to and to really get great players at their positions.
There's not many human beings that could be that big
and that fast, and that tough to deal with the
kind of uh, you know, defensive ends and defensive linemen
that that that are being produced nowadays as well. And
then when you lose both of them, oh my goodness,
that's like it's it's pretty much a non starter. You're
(30:52):
not going to be able to replace guys like that.
So they're feeling that effect and and and as a result,
it affects your run game, your play calling, It affects
the health of your quarterback and the viability of your quarterback.
You can't call the same plays that you normally would.
And then also putting your quarterback in injuris and dangerous
a way, and he's taken a beating. I can't imagine
(31:13):
that there's a quarterback in the league right now on
a good team, especially that that's that's taking the kind
of pounding that that Justin hasn't, and he's going to
feel that. I know he already is feeling it, but
as the season goes on and we get into December,
he's going to feel that even more. It gets a
little bit colder, the body starts feeling a little bit
more achy. He's not as mobile as he was. He's
(31:35):
maybe not, you know, able to really step in and
use the arm strength as as he normally would. So
they got to get it together. I don't know how,
because again, it's going to be hard to protect him
going down the stretch.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
All right, Well, thank you for protecting us today, Benny.
We really appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
You got it, and thank you for the outstanding try. Fred,
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Hey, I'm here for the people, and you're one of
the people, so I'm here for you.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Man always all right, there goes our good friend Vinnie
bon Signor should we continue when we come back the
Lebron conversation or do you want to do that later
and talk about smiling at Target? You get to pick.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Bet your show. I'm just a guest I don't want to.
I mean, what do you feel strongly about?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
All right? Well, smiling at Target because I don't think
if Lebron plays are not right.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, you've got you've got like what a lot of
people in this town have Lebron fatigue? Okay, so yeah,
maybe that's the better route to go.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
How much is a smile worth? That's next?
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Speaker 1 (33:05):
No right, Jonas Knox is in today for Rodney. Now,
have you heard the new rule about Target? Uh?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
No, I try and avoid that place.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Okay. So here's the deal. They've got a new rule.
They've talked to their employers, their employees, and they said, look,
business is down a bit, A lot of retails down, Jonas.
I don't know if you're aware of that. I found
these kinds of things I've heard, because you know what,
there's more to life than sports. We need to know
what's going on in our world.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
You know, Look, I'm with you. You know, I also
think you know, going and shopping in person is not
what it used to be.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Black Friday is a little different nowadays than what it
used to be.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, a lot of people get stuff online anyway. So
Target said, we're a little down. We got to figure
this out. We've got the answer. So they called everybody
in or they had a zoom call, they had meetings,
and they said, this is what we're going to do.
When you are in the store working, if someone a
customer happens to catch your eye and glance at you,
(34:13):
you smile. You smile at every single person you see.
Smile at them. Rule number one, smile at every person
you see. By the way, if they get closer to you,
then you can engage, how's your day? How can I
(34:34):
help you look great? You Also, if somebody catches your
eye from a distance, wave good to see you. Nice
seeing you here in the store. But the key here
is if you make eye contact with somebody, smile at them.
(34:56):
The company believes that will encourage more people to come
into the store and ultimately buy something because they feel
good because they feel welcomed, because they feel at home.
What do you think of this philosophy?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Well, I guess look smiling at people when they walk
into your business or whatever, like, all of that is nice.
You know, it is a pleasant approach to somebody's shop
because there you know, a lot of times now if
you go into the store, it feels like there are
some people working at the store that are just miserable
having to be there, Like they don't want to be there,
(35:31):
they don't want to deal with you customer service. It
feels like it's at a low point for all of
us here, and so that's a little disheartening. But you know,
if you can go into a place and they're going
to smile at you, and that's sort of the rule
that's been handed down by the company, I'm all with that.
Here's where I think we're getting. I don't know a
little bit. There's a couple of different ways this could go.
(35:54):
When they tell you if they get closer to you,
you can engage. Well, what are we talking about here?
I mean, is this like the old uh, you know,
six feet of you know, social distancing and you know,
keep six feet away if they get within six feet
you can then talk. Is it within five feet? Is
it within four feet?
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Like?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
How close do they have to be before you can
engage in conversation? That if we're being honest here, if
they wanted to engage in conversation, they would have already
done it at that point.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
It feels like, yeah, I think it's first you want
to shout at somebody. You know, they're three aisles down. Hey,
how are you?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
You know, well, you've you've never lived with Mexican, So
that's fun.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Okay, Chico Schultz to you. Don't you don't want to
do that. I think if they just you know, get
within a reasonable distance, the company wants you to engage
with them. But here's my concern. I don't know how
you are when you go shopping, but I know how
I am.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, I'm uh yeah, but I'll let you go. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
And you know, I don't really want to talk to
anybody when I go. If I go to Target, for example,
and by the way, I've been to Target, or some
call it Targa, but.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I've been people man of the people like, come on.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Right, if I walk and Target's giganic and I never
know where I'm going but I know I go for
a specific reason. I will walk up and ask somebody,
excuse me, where are home goods? All you need to
tell me is I'le twelve. That's it. I'm good. I
don't need anything else answered for me. I'm going to
(37:29):
Aisle twelve. Don't care. You don't have to engage me,
you don't have to talk to me. I'm just and
I'm pleasant. Hey, where's home goods? Aisle twelve? Great? I
don't need to say anything else, Jonas, I prefer you
not scowled at me when I asked. A smile would
be nice. But aside from that, I don't really care,
and it's not going to encourage me to go back.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I only ask for help finding something if it's the
last resort. Other than that, it's almost like a puzzle,
like a maze. If you will to where I'm like,
you know, let me see if I can find this,
Because like the stores that I go to, I'll go
to Ralph's and look, man, I know where everything is.
I know how to get in get out of there.
I know where to park, to exit the parking lot
(38:10):
more efficiently like that, like I'm going in there to
get everything. I need and get the hell out of there.
It's like the gym. When you go to the gym,
some people like to hang out and camp out and
have conversations. I'm get in, get your workout, and get
the hell out of there. There's better things to do
than sit in a gym and watch some zero posts
on his Instagram while you're waiting to use the you know,
the preacher curl machine, Like, dude, move on, I got
(38:33):
to get to that bench. You need to go elsewhere.
We go to the store, like I don't really care
about having conversations, Like I don't really talk to many
of the workers there because I go in with the
idea and mindset of I'm gonna find this, this is
my duty. They're busy with more important things. I don't
want to be a pest, so I'm not going to
bug them unless it's last resort and I have to
(38:55):
ask them because I just can't find what I'm looking for.
That's my approach. So it doesn't offend me if people
don't smile at me, because there's nothing really to smile at.
I'm just a person going in to get what they
need and get the hell out of there.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
You know what, that's really interesting. See, and that's the
difference between the two of us. I'm being dead serious here.
I'd be the first guy to walk in someplace and go,
where is this? How can I do this? Where can
I find this? I do not want to search for
anything on my own nothing. I want to do things
the most efficient way possible. Hi, I'm here, I need
a screwdriver. Where are those? Please? Well they're an aisle fifteen. Great. Thanks.
(39:33):
I don't look for anything I walk in. Hi, I'm
at best Buy. I need to buy a TV. Where
are this size TVs? Right there? Thank you. I have
asked people questions and the answer was directly in front
of me. Excuse me, where can I find batteries? Well,
if you look directly to your right there, right in
front of you.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Wait, if batteries are one thing, you go into best
Buy and ask where the TVs are?
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Well, I was asking for a specific TV.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Well, okay, you been to best Buy? That is their thing.
Like they don't have TVs. They've got an entire section basically,
you know, showing every concoction of television and and what
you can do and how your home setup could look like.
TV's are the easiest thing in the world to find
(40:18):
in the Best Buy.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yes, that's fair, except I wanted a specific TV. Do
have this one?
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Number one? But didn't? And did they tell you? Did
they walk you over or did they just say, yeah,
it's over there with the rest of the TVs?
Speaker 1 (40:32):
They walked me over.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Okay, I don't think they. You don't think they. You know,
there's probably something better for them to do at that point.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
I'm sure there was. But I always I always act
like I'm completely oblivious and totally lost. Also, so I
get in all the places I get into because I
act like I don't even know what I'm doing. I
just have to show up places, and.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
That's a good approach. I would also say this this morning,
I went to Vond's to get some stuff out after
the show because we needed eggs and some other stuff.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
And uh.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Uh, the one off arbalis you know, off the twenty three.
Let me, Yeah, you're you're not willing to slum it
on on the twenty three, Fred, we know, like that's
that's beneath you.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
There's some very nice areas off the twenty three. I'm
not saying where you are is I don't know, but
there are some very nice areas.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
That's definitely, uh a fair point by you. Definitely not mine.
But I was in the vonds off Arblus and I
forgot to grab a bag before I left because this
was early morning before work, and I was like, I'll
just stop there after work. So I needed to get
the plastic bag.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Stop stop stop, why stop? You're not somebody that brings
a bag from the house.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Oh yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Bring a bag from the house.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Well, because the bag that we have is actually a
bag that we that I got some gifts from my
wife and son from super Bowl week and so the
bags are really sturdy, and so I'm like, yeah, these
are much easier. You can fit more in them.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Is it a forign concept or odd concept that you
bring your own bags to the store of Fred? Because
I feel like maybe not most a great majority I
do it. Ronnie says he brings his own head to Fred.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
I've got a nice Trader Joe's bag that I haul
around with me everywhere.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Matter of fact, that riple and sturdy.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
I have many Trader Joe's bags and I keep him
on trunk. Did I take my door?
Speaker 1 (42:19):
But do you go to other stores beside Trader Jones. Absolutely,
and use the bags absolutely, Fred, fredi'sier.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
You don't mind paying a fee, Fred for a piece
of plastic eight fred It, I can't go with that.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Bringing your own bag is the like the one time
that you can brag about being a whore because it
showcases everybody in that store. Oh, he's willing to go
to Home Goods and to Target and to Ralph's and
Vaughn's and the Dollar Tree. He'll go at anybody like
(42:52):
you can walk into whatever store with whatever bag you got,
and I like to take multiple different bags just to
let him know. I sleep around. Okay, I shop around.
I'm a slut. And what are you going to do
about it? Not a damn thing, And I'm not paying
your ten cent fee for it. But this morning I
forgot to press that I needed one plastic bag. I
(43:14):
pressed zero on accident, and I went and self reported
the violation so that they could come over and add
on the ten cents for me, and they appreciated me
being honest about it. Put that in your pipe and
smoke it, Fred.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
No, No, I would report that self violation. I would,
and I do pay, and I do pay the dime.
I'm being honest, and what would you do?
Speaker 2 (43:35):
You say? Since I reported it? Can I give you
a half?
Speaker 1 (43:38):
I'll give you a nickel. We'll call the date.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
No, come home.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
But every time I pay that dime, you know what
I say? What's that? God? This is stupid? Every time?
This is stupid, stupid to pay a dime.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
So bring it back from home.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
I won't do it.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
So why won't you bring a bag from home?
Speaker 1 (43:57):
What au the centrarian? I won't do it. I'm a
f a guy that doesn't know what can to put
stuff in. And we've gone over that for Fred. Are
you a plastic bag hoarder? I'm not a hoarder.
Speaker 4 (44:07):
What do you do with all those plastic bags that
you spend ten cents for every single time you go
to the store?
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Fred, how many?
Speaker 4 (44:13):
What do you do with those bags?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Fred?
Speaker 2 (44:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
That's why we're asking Fred.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
How many seagulls and turtles have have been strangled to
death because of your bonds?
Speaker 4 (44:23):
How much poison have you leached into the environment because
of your your ten cents? Fred, I'm gonna have to
have a bag.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Plastic stamination at the hands of Fred Rogan. It's our
oceans poison.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
You know what, We're going to continue this because then
I have a very important put. No, I'm serious, I'm
gonna ask you a question.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
I'm going to investigate you, Fred.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Listen, many have tried just go running. No, I'm gonna
ask you a question when we come back, and I
think it will explain everything on this topic. Also, next
hour we'll get caught up on its lit. Do you
ever want to talk about Lebron.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Jonny, I mean, he's making his triumphant return. Where would
they be without him? We have to you're ten and four, yeah,
but maybe they would have been eleven and three.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
All Right, we'll get to it.
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