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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, we continue on Fred Rogan and Jonas knocks in
today for Rodney on a five seventy LA sports. Coming
up in a bit, Kevin will get us caught up
to date on everything that has happened in the past
two and a half hours with it slit. So if
you want to be caught right up to date, Kevin
Germain and we'll have that coming up in a bit.
All right, Jonas, shall we continue this conversation because I
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want to put it to bed.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, let's do it. You see real fired up about
this one.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Well, here's my here's my concern before the break. And
I don't know if you listening, bring your own bags
to the grocery store. I rebel. I'm not gonna lie.
I rebel. I don't like being told that, and I
shouldn't be paying the dime. And then Ronnie said, well,
what do you do with all the flasks to kill
all the wildlife? Is that what you do? You're a murderer,
You're a killer, You're an assassin.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, you're you're the You're the reason we have paper
straws now because one sea turtle got a straw stuck
up in his nose. Because he's a coke head. And
next thing, you know, we've got to we've got to
deal with paper straws falling apart our drinks.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
And my point is this, let's do something to help
these turtles get off drugs. Let's not molimentate the straws.
I'm with you anyway, here's my point about that. And
if you are old enough, you'll remember this. You know,
years ago, because I just actually did this on TV,
people were saying, we've got to get rid of paper bags.
We got to get rid of.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
We get we are trying, we are efforting a connection
with Fred Rogan here live here on Rogan and Rodney
on the blowtorch Am five to seventy LA Sports. Fred
was in the middle of talking about his rebellion against
paying ten cents for bags in the grocery store when
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all of a sudden, the grocery store owners got together
and cut his feed, cut his feed in order to
do this show. I mean, that's the kind of power. Look,
Fred's been pissing people off for years, and that's the
kind of power that they hold that they're going to
be able to make this move and be able to
disconnect Fred. At a moment's notice if he says something
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that's out of turn. I mean, this is what happens. Lesson,
learn when you go to break and open up the
next hour talking about your refusal to pay a dime,
your refusal to pay a dime for a bag in
a grocery store. This is the stuff you get, all right,
this is what happens. You want to call it karma,
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you can call whatever you want. But fred, I think
you've learned a valuable lesson. Don't you dare mess with
the plastic bag gods that run this country, or else
you're going to have to deal with the repercussions.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Oh that was pretty stupid. I don't know what happened here,
but my line was cut. My line was cut, and
it had to be by Big Lumber because I was
talking about paper bags and that's somebody from the lumber industry,
and I know somebody that works in that industry. Cut
my line. But I'm back now. But you can't silence me,
No you can't. So anyway, the thing was, do not
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use paper bags under no circumstances. Okay, they were basically banned.
We got a better idea, plastic. Everybody used plastic bags.
This will be the best. We'll save the trees. We'll
use plastic bags. Everybody used plastic bags. Okay, we did.
We got a problem. We're going back to paper. Bring
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your own or paper. Could we get it straight? Please?
Can we get it straight? Paper bags were awful, all right,
they made you stop. Now we went to plastic. Okay,
now they're awful. They went back to paper.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
God, I'm gonna have to push back on this, to
be honest with you, paper bags. That was always that.
Whenever my mom would go to the store, she always
preferred paper bags, and she would tell us because they
sat better upright, so if you had something, it wouldn't
tip over. So she always preferred paper bags. And also
for those of you that remember if you bought grocery
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and put it in a paper bag, depending on the
shape of the bag. Afterwards, in the condition you could
use that for a book cover. You remember that you
could cut the paper bag and use that for a
book cover. Old school move. So it actually served two purposes.
So whatever you were getting and whatever damage you were
doing to the environment or whatever, you know, hippies were
out there trying to do to get rid of paper bags,
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it did serve two purposes. It got your groceries home,
it got them organized, and it also served as a
book cover after you were done with it.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, and you could wear it over your head and
cut two holes in it if you would.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
For the New Orleans Saint that is true, the Aints.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
You would be the Aints.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
By the way, when's the last time somebody did that
in this town? Who's been Well? There were the Angels
never mind? Yeah, yeah, haven't the Angels had had paper
bags over their head before?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
A gay heman, you would know that.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Did Did the Clippers ever have that?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, even in their living years?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, no, because who would do that? I mean, tickets
were like twelve cents and you got to see Larry
Bird and Michael Jordan play it.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
To think about that. Clippers tickets were two cents more
than a bag.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, just about that.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
And by the way, Angel fans don't dress up with
paper bags there and they're over their head. They dress
up as empty seats. Oh, there we go, that's how.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Geez, that's pretty impressive line, Kevin. Yeah, so there are
a lot of those fans now, right, the empty seat fan.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Oh, there's a ton you know what it was wild. Though.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I'll say this. I will say this, So what I
went to so I'd never been to. I've been to
Angel Stadium a thousand times because I would fill in
there doing radio with the great Jeff Biggs back in
the day. So I've been to Angel Stadium a thousand times.
I've been to Monster Jam. I've taken my son to
Monster Jam there. It's the place is filled every time,
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like there's not an empty seat, like it's you know, however,
many thousands of people go from Monster Jam and Angel
Stadium every time. I went to the Angels Cubs game,
first of all, majority Cubs fans, not a surprise considering
just sort of you know that fan base and the
Angels and where they're at and all that. But I
go to use the restroom. One of the urinals is
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overflowing onto the floor, and these two guys spent about
five minutes laying into Artie Moreno to him about how
cheap he is, how cheap the organization is. They can't
even get decent plumbing here. They can't even get the
urinals fixed, They couldn't maintain, they couldn't retain show. Heyo, Tom,
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I we just went off on Arti Moreno and I'm
with my son and we're washing our hands, and I
wanted to tell him, like, hey man, this is what
it's like when you're root for a team like this.
So they may not have paper bags on their head
because you know, Fred's bought all of them and there's
none left. But at least they did take time to
air out the fact that their urinal cakes were overflowing
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onto the floor. Because Artie Moreno's a cheap ass.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
You understand why teams need to stadiums, right, you understand that.
I mean I saw a thing this morning City Field,
New York, which is beautiful. If you've not been, you
should go a big thing. They put dividers up between
the urinals, and now everybody's excited because they put dividers
up between the urinals. Ah man, And I think the
post was see what we care about the fans here?
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Now for you, that's that's probably very disappointed.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I mean, how am I supposed to look at some guys.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Watch exactly because you're always curious about what time it
is when you're in there. Yeah, I understand that, But
the reason you need a new stadium, and at what
point normally is the time for a new stadium after
how many years? Do we know?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Twenty five?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Correct? But why is it why?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I don't know, because Honda Center's old now at.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
This point nice though, really it's nice, okay or maybe not.
My point is this, The reason you build new stadiums
is because everything internally starts to break or get old,
like plumbing. You don't think that, No one thinks that.
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But after so many years.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Oh yeah, plumbing goes.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yes. Yeah, that's why every twenty five years they go,
it's time for a new stadium.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Because and I say, look the Honda Center, like that
was the the spot to be. And I think what
Honda Center opened up? Was it ninety four ninety five? Maybe,
so they're looking at thirty years.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
But maybe they've done some stuff we don't know about.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
But ten years ago, walking into Honda Center, ten years ago,
I can remember being like, wow, this this place looks
old and so yeah, maybe they've they've repaired, yeah, like
it felt. And I've been there since, and but it
just it seems I don't know because I don't know
if it's old or if it's outdated. Like, but there
was the look, there was a time where Honda Center
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was the spot like that was that was the place,
you know, like they had to wrestle Mania there. They
had all sorts of big events there they had to.
But I want to say, Honda Center open up in
ninety five. When did Staples Center open up?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Kevin ninety That was ninety and I was the first
the first year the Kobe shakh Lickers won the championship,
So that was the ninety nine two thousand, So ninety nine, yeah,
is when they opened. I just looked up Hondason and
by the way, apparently they're in the midst of a
renovation right now and then go it's a one billion
dollar renovation project that's going to be completed next in
twenty twenty seven, so two years from now. So they've
already started making incremental adjustments to that, to that arena.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I guarantee you if some of that is plumbing, you
don't even know about it. There's a lot of stuff
that goes on that they have to fix or maintain
or uprate.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Did you did you see the video of a couple
of years I think it might have been last year
the year before so FedEx Field where the Washington Commanders play.
You know, formally known as something else that I won't say.
Fred probably wants to say their former name, but I
wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I was remember what was it you said it last week?
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Fred, what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Credit was a field?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
No, the name of the former football team, the former.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
No, that was a baseball team. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
By the way, if anybody's playing Fred Rogan's racial slur
bingo game, you can check that box off from last week.
So the FedEx Field where the Commanders play, people noticed
that it was leaking, and they're like that there was
drops coming down on them, and they couldn't figure out
because it was there was no rain in the forecast.
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And it turned out that one of the pipes from
the bathroom that goes over the top of the overhang
above them had broken and was leaking everywhere. And the
Commanders tried to tell everybody, oh, no, that wasn't you know,
that wasn't from the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
That what?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
So you could have had possibly sewage from the bathroom
draining out onto people, because that too, is an older stadium.
Dan Snyder, the former owner, was a guy much like
Ardie Moreno, maybe not. You know the off field stuff
that people have been complaining about for years, and he
would go on the cheap and he would do it,
and to your point, the plumbing went awry. And next
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thing you know, people are sitting there trying to watch
a bad football team, and they've got some guy's fece's
laying on their shoulder because they can't fix the plumbing
there at the stadium. It's unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well, there you go. That's why you have to fix things, Jonas,
That's why you have to maintain them.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Next to Dodger Stadium, what's your favorite venue in town?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Oh? Okay, Well I do love Dodger Stadium a lot. Well,
how many are there? Let's start with that. There's Dodger Stadium,
the Crypt, the Intuit Dome.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I mean, would you would you count Honda Center? Would
you count those places? Or is that all beneath you
because it's so far south?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
No, I wouldn't you said in town? You said in town? Okay,
So you know what, I think the Honda Center is
cozy and friendly. I do. I'd like it there. I okay.
And and Kevin has yelled at me about this before.
I'm sorry, I think Angel Stadium is awful.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Now yell this strong. I just think it's as the crep.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It's not as you're trying to make it seem like
it's the open Alameda Coliseum.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
It's not that bad, friend, It.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Really isn't that.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
No, no, but it's not great, But it's not that terrible.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I mean the parkings convenient. You can get in and
out of there quicker than do your stadium. That's right,
that's less people.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
But that's the best part, the parking. The parking is
the best part. But when you go in and you
know what it's it's laid out well, but it just
needs to be upgraded. It's like everybody loves Wrigley Field,
and to me that place is just like, oh.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
God, have you been there recently? They've done some stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
It looks three years ago. I was there.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
It looks every time I go there, because we go
once or twice a year. Every time I go there,
it looks different than the last time. They've They've expanded
and grown so much around there that it's so corporate
now it's different, but they have improved some of the
stuff there. Have you been to MGM Grand in Vegas recently?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
No?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Okay, that place got old in a hurry, like it
actually kind of reminds me of Hondas. And I don't
know when MGM Grand, the MGM Grand Garden Arena like
was built, but that too was one of those places
that was the go to spot. And now you've got
t Mobile and you've got other venues in Las Vegas
that are that are sort of the the in thing now,
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but it is it is kind of crazy. You think
about all these venues that have had all these and
it is right around the twenty five year mark where
you start to look around and go, yeah, that's a
place that needs to be upgraded.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Ninety three, by the way, is one of the MGM
Grand opened.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, all around the mid nineties.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
To me, the MGM Grand is too massive. It is enormous.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
They but if you go you would think that, and
then if you go into the arena now it's tiny.
You can walk the concourse in two and a half minutes,
the entire concourse, like I swear. That's what was like
shocking to me because I went out there. I was
covering the the Pacquiow fight in July and I just
kind of walked around in between fights just trying to
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check the place out because I had seen a UFC
fight in two thousand and eight, and it seemed massive,
and it's like going back to your old elementary school,
Like you go back and you go, oh, this place
seemed massive when I was there, and then you go
back there and it's tiny. MGM. Grand Garden Arena feels tiny.
Dodger Stadium always feels massive. Like you go in. You
could probably set Wrigley Field inside Dodger Stadium because Wrigley
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Fields tiny like it is like it's a confined space
because it's in a neighborhood. You you go to Dodger
Stadium and you see how massive it is, and it
feels like it gets bigger the more they add on
to it every year.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, well, they've done a masterful job with Dodger Stadium.
But when Goggenheim took over stan Cast and said they
were going to do that, there was a train of
thought at first, are they going to tear the stadium
down and start again? And really Dodger Stadium Frank McCourt
tried to make some improvements, but Frank McCort ran out
of money, so the stadium did need a lot of work,
and they really did a terrific job Googenheim, They get
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a fantastic.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Can I ask you a dumb question? And maybe this
is a bigger conversation, but I asked this because you
have dinners with all these people, Like nobody knows who
the hell I am in town? All right, but you're
Fred Rogan, You've got stroke. Why isn't there more closer
by to Dodger Stadium for people to enjoy like postgame?
(15:38):
Like why have they not figured out when everybody else
has figured out? Hey, like even Angel Stadium, the you know,
you've got Brewery X, the Carl Strout, Like, you've got
all these different places right there. If you want to
go to with Dodger Stadium, that's the one gripe. I
think everybody has that after the game, if you know,
you want to have a couple more throat burners and
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you want to have a time after the game, you're
sitting in a parking lot. It takes forever to get out,
and then there's nowhere really immediate to get to to
where you can hang out and have a couple of
more drinks or enjoy the rest of your day or
the rest of your night to where In a lot
of places nowadays they don't just build a stadium. They
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build an entire community around the stadium with small businesses
and places for people to hang out, much like they
did with you know, by Staple Center when it opened
up and they started expanding there. Why haven't they done
more with that? Is it even allowed? Do they have
the right to do it? All?
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Right? Do you know? Honestly? Because there was an answer.
And when Frank McCort owned the Dodgers, what he was
trying to do is hang on, hang on to get
to that big TV deal, because then all of a
sudden he would have operating capital. He wasn't fluid in cash.
Everything was leveraged. When he had that money, the plan
was to develop the parking lot and build a ballpark
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village there, restaurants, businesses, bars, things like that, and turn
Dodger Stadium into a destination spot three hundred and sixty
five days a year. So even if the Dodgers weren't playing,
they would have this area there where you could go,
and some even suggested they would build condos. Now, when
they started the talk about America's most important project, the gondola,
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and I believe that's Frank's son that's overseeing that, but
you look at it and say it's the same deal.
People thought, oh, this would be cool. They sold it
as you go from Union Station to Dodger Stadium, and Kevin,
we did something like one percent of the crowd would
be able to do that on the gondola.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Less than one percent of the traffic congestion would be
be improved by this gondola project. So basically negligible will
make no difference whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Right, So then if you really looked at what they
submitted plan wise, and you knew how to read these things,
you realize that somewhere in there they wanted to be
able to develop the part parking lots. Now, because Frank
McCourt owns half the parking lots or some percentage of them,
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because that's how he made his money with parking lots.
I think he sold a couple one of them in
Boston to be able to buy the Dodgers. So the
plan was to develop the land in the parking lot
at Dodger Stadium. Jonas and I have to tell you,
I'm not sure that's dead. I don't know when it
would happen, but I assure you that that is somehow
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part of the overall plan to construct what you're talking
about and put it in the parking lot.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
That's what that's That's my one gripe with Dodger Stadium. Like, look,
the traffic is the traffic.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
It is.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
What if you don't like traffic, don't live here, Like
that's just that's when when people bitch about traffic in
other parts of the country, I always laugh. But that
what I would say is the one thing that is
quote unquote missing is when you go there. It's not
just go to the game, hangout and then you know,
you got to leave early or you got to like
to try and navigate through the traffic. Like if you
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had stuff there for people to do postgame, maybe some
people could wait for the traffic to die down while
they're going to you know, to throw a bowling at
And I know these are all you know like these
you know, these these sorts of problems, you know, on
the grand scheme of things aren't aren't big problems. But
if you were to nitpick about anything when it comes
to Dodger Stadium, I would say the surrounding area, what
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can you do to make that more appealing to people
to where they can enjoy not just Dodger Stadium, but
the surrounding parts of it. I mean, it's just still
it still doesn't explain why you don't pay ten cents
for plastic bags. I mean, still like that whole conversation.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, I know, I would like to continue that, but
then we would be doing a one hour podcast with
no commercials, So we had to take a break at
this point. I mean, I don't know what you think
you're doing. You come in here and you think, well,
I've just got something to say, and we don't have
any kind of format we follow. Sorry, when you're here,
is that how this works?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Sorry about that, Fred, That's right.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
We'll get you caught up on its lip next.
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Speaker 1 (20:24):
All right, Jonas Knox is in today for Rodney, and uh,
it has been a very long day. Much has happened.
We have an obligation to you to get you caught
up and Kevin will do that with it slit It's Lip.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Stories lighting up the sports headbox that's right, friend.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
As you and Jonas alluded to earlier in the show,
the countdown is on to the return of Lebron. James
and sham Sharanire earlier today set that Lebron is aiming
to return to the Lakers tonight when they host the
Utah Jazz is going to go through his on court
work like he typically does, to see how he responds,
and if he feels well enough, it is his intention
to play against Utah tonight. The interesting thing is, so
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they play against Utah tonight, they don't play again until Sunday,
so they have a long stretch of time here of
days between games. So I guess the question is, even
if he is ready, do you just rest him an
additional night anyway, knowing you have what four days in
between before your next game in Utah?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, Like, why would you if you got that much
time in between, why not just you know, save him
for another game, pick up an extra few days of rest.
Because the only thing that could have it is if
he comes back and he tries to push it because
he wants to, you know, have his impact on the team,
and next thing you know, he gets hurt and he's
out for you know, another month or so, Like yeah,
to me, like, why why if the calendar is going
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to give you a break like this, why not use
it to your advantage?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Why rush it? And on top of it, they're ten
and four. There's absolutely no need for him to come
back right now.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
And with all due respect, they're playing against Utah geez,
I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Well, I'm just saying it's like they're ten and four.
They don't need him. Now, take some more time, and
when you come back, be ready and then you know,
hopefully you can go for a while. I already thinks
he feels like a kid, He feels great. Those days
are done. All we need to know is when you're
coming back and how much of an impact you're gonna
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make with these guys, because they're doing pretty well in
their own this group without him, No, they can out
win it with him, they got a much better shot.
So there's no rush.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
But wouldn't you say that this also gives you a
glimpse as to what they're going to look like next
year because he's not coming back right.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
No, yes, unless Rob Polinka says again, you know, it
would be my hope that when I die, Lebron is
buried with me because I want him to be with
me the rest of my life.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I mean, that does sound like something Rob would say,
So I know it sounds like you're trying to exaggerate Fred, but.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
We've heard Rob talk before, so he's just saying, but.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
You want his corpse in the casket with you?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, I just want to We're not giving him up
no matter what I mean. If you were to ask him,
he would say he is the greatest laker of all time.
Lebron James next to Contavious called well Pulp when Bread
came down from the sky.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah. But also, I mean, don't you think he was
just kind of playing the game. I mean, he seems
like he's really fallen in love with Luca and and
had no problem was sort of giving the keys to Luca,
even while not telling Lebron James about it. So maybe
he's maybe his new fetish is Luca. Maybe he's over
Lebron Good Good, So maybe he wants to sleep with
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Lucas corpse as opposed to Lebron.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Hey, whatever he wants.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I don't know how Lebron's corpse will take to that though,
So you might have a beef of the undead between
Lebron and Luca, and I don't think we want that,
you know, of course, hundreds of years in the future. Anyway,
getting back to the Dodgers, we talked about this earlier today.
Jack Harris wrote a piece in the La Times this
afternoon about Cody Bellinger possibly being on the Dodgers radars
to rejoin the team. Of course, he can play in
the outfield. He can also spell Freddy Freeman at first base,
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and Jeff Passon of The Evil four Letter reported this
just a little bit ago. He says, the Dodgers have
quote unquote shown interest in a reunion with Cody Bellinger
as well. He would obviously become much cheaper, at least
you would assume he wouldcome much cheaper than Kyle Tucker.
And obviously there's a familiarity there.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
And he, you know, I would argue, had a better
year last year. I know it's the short porch with
the Yankees in right field, but yeah, look, if you
he knows the culture, he knows the locker room, the
fans would love it. You know, who knows the clubhouse?
The fans would love it. Like that would make a
lot of sense, and you'd probably get him at what
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a fourth a third of what you would have to
pay Kyle Tucker based on he's only gonna want here there.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, well, we're talking what four hundred plus million dollars
ten twelve years for Kyle Tucker. I'm looking at the
reporting for Cody Bellinger. It's about five to six years,
one hundred and fifty to one hundred and seventy five million.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
It's about yeah, it's about right. And it's about what
he was making or scheduled to make in some of
these deals that he's gotten in and around twenty five
to thirty million dollars a year. But he wanted the
long term security like he had opt outs in his
Cubs contract. He had obviously the one with the Yankees.
And yeah, look, and I would say if you asked
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Dodger fans just sentimentally to include that with it, they'd
rather have Cody Bellinger than Kyle Tucker.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Oh my god, Dodger fans would That's all they want.
I mean, if you check social media, that's all they want.
Bring back Cody Bellinger. There's a reason they let him leave. Now,
I think your point is well taken. He had a
better year than Kyle Tucker. Yes, he had a better
year Kevin Wdley two sixty career hitter right in that.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Ballpark, something like that.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Well, the reason they let him leave is because, with
all due respect to him, he was terrible his last
two years.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
He had the shoulder injury.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
He knocked his shoulder out of its socket when they
won in the bubble or whatever you want to call
it out there in sexas during COVID, and he just
wasn't the same after that until a couple of years.
I think Scott Boris even mentioned that in his free
agent courtship when he decided to leave the Dodger So
I think he didn't leave here on the greatest of terms.
But time heels wounds, and the Dodgers are still a
great team, and he's obviously a good player, so maybe
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the they can mend the fences a little bit.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I would be surprised if the Yankees let him go,
just based on what he did there and and sort
of his and look, there's also been conversation apparently all
is all his exes want him too, because the Cubs
are also interested, and like, apparently there's that also, but
you know, they're cheap, they're not going to pay those prices.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
They never do. So it's just.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Five five one fifty or six one seventy five is
what I've seen as the projection.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
For covid F. Wouldn't the Cubs pay.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
That because it's the Cubs. They don't want to do.
They don't want to do any deferred deals. They don't
want to make long term commitments like that. That's like
Tanner Scott was about to be a Cub and they
balked at the deferred payments. Same with Alex Bregman. Like
Alex Bregman, like the reason why Justin Turner was a
Cub last year is because the Cubs balked at whatever
contract demands Alex Bregman had and so they went with
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Justin Turner for like six million dollars the cheap.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Well, they don't make any money despite the fact that
they are in Chicago and have their.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Own TV deal. They're just trying to break even.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
That's what the owners is breaking even. That's it. Yeah, Yeah,
they're struggling every day. Yeah, just like the owners in
Kansas City. Same thing, Pittsburgh, Cobbs, Pittsburgh, same thing. Birds
of a feather of course.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Yeah, all right, that's what's lighting up the headlines.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Okay, we'll come back and put a bow on this
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Speaker 1 (27:59):
All right, Jonas Aden for Rodney Today and Jonas, it's
always a pleasure to have you. Before we get out
of here. I'm sure you guys discussed this last night.
Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens benched for the first time
first series of last night's game, Cowboys game disciplinary reasons. Yeah,
first series they were benched.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Well, you got you gotta lay the hammer down. You
gotta lay the hammer down. I mean, it is what
it is, you know, Like that's imagine that as a
punishment from Brian Long. You know, Fred, You're gonna miss
the first segment.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
That's really good. That's really making your point. It's really
letting people know, like don't screw around here. We drive
a hard bargain.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
By the way, how bad are the Raiders That those
two guys were benched the first series and nobody would
have known unless the Cowboys talked about it because they
didn't need those two guys.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I actually, and we had Vinnie on earlier. I am
dismayed over the Raiders this year. I thought they could
not be this bad.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
They're They're awful And back the way. Are the Raiders
and Cowboys the two most popular NFL teams in town?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Well, the Raiders are. I don't know about the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Cowboys have a pretty strong fan base here.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, but they yes, yes they do. I don't know,
and I see what you're saying. I would say this
is awful to say. I'd say the forty nine Ers
are more popular here than the Cowboys. Really. Yeah, yeah,
it's top Rams. It would be tough when they came back.
If things had gone differently, if they had got a
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stadium down in San Diego, it would have been the
Rams and Raiders here in LA because the Raiders wouldn't
have gone to Vegas. Ultimately, it was the best thing
for but it would have been the Raiders and Rams
in the stadium stan Kronki built. I don't know if
that would have been doing the Rams any favors.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, I mean the percentages will because the one thing
you can say, anybody who's been to Vegas since the
Raiders have moved back there, or since the Raiders have
moved there, like they like that that was a good move.
Like that is like that town is becoming a sports town,
maybe more so than it's becoming a casino and gambling town.
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Like they they are all about sports there. They're all
about the biggest sporting events that are going there now.
So between them and the Golden Knights and now the
A's or whatever they're going to be called when they
move there, you know, like it feels like they've made
significant progress trying to become more than just a gambling
town and people go there and they want to watch games,
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you know, but unfortunately the product on the field is
way worse than I don't think anybody thought it was
going to be.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Well, if that's the case, then they'll get ready for
the A's. What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
But don't you have more confidence and at least at
least the A's have a farm system that they can
just supply, you know, to the Yankees at the trade
deadline each year. At least the A's have got some
younger talent there. I mean, the Raiders have younger talent
and they're made in active for games like Ashton. Genties
nowhere to be found because that offensive line.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Is so brutal.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
So I would have more confidence in what the A's
can do than I would the Raiders at this point.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Mom, we will find out. Yeah, and thank you for
sitting in great.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
They've always fun. We got a lot done today, Fred
lot lizards and who's a Chico Swavee or whatever that
guy's name is, Yeah, Chico Schultz. Feel we got a
lot done.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
It's always fun when you're here, Ronnie, thank you, Kevin
appreciate it. And we're back tomorrow at noon
Okay, we continue on Fred Rogan and Jonas knocks in
today for Rodney on a five seventy LA sports. Coming
up in a bit, Kevin will get us caught up
to date on everything that has happened in the past
two and a half hours with it slit. So if
you want to be caught right up to date, Kevin
Germain and we'll have that coming up in a bit.
All right, Jonas, shall we continue this conversation because I
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want to put it to bed.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, let's do it. You see real fired up about
this one.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Well, here's my here's my concern before the break. And
I don't know if you listening, bring your own bags
to the grocery store. I rebel. I'm not gonna lie.
I rebel. I don't like being told that, and I
shouldn't be paying the dime. And then Ronnie said, well,
what do you do with all the flasks to kill
all the wildlife? Is that what you do? You're a murderer,
You're a killer, You're an assassin.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, you're you're the You're the reason we have paper
straws now because one sea turtle got a straw stuck
up in his nose. Because he's a coke head. And
next thing, you know, we've got to we've got to
deal with paper straws falling apart our drinks.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
And my point is this, let's do something to help
these turtles get off drugs. Let's not molimentate the straws.
I'm with you anyway, here's my point about that. And
if you are old enough, you'll remember this. You know,
years ago, because I just actually did this on TV,
people were saying, we've got to get rid of paper bags.
We got to get rid of.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
We get we are trying, we are efforting a connection
with Fred Rogan here live here on Rogan and Rodney
on the blowtorch Am five to seventy LA Sports. Fred
was in the middle of talking about his rebellion against
paying ten cents for bags in the grocery store when
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all of a sudden, the grocery store owners got together
and cut his feed, cut his feed in order to
do this show. I mean, that's the kind of power. Look,
Fred's been pissing people off for years, and that's the
kind of power that they hold that they're going to
be able to make this move and be able to
disconnect Fred. At a moment's notice if he says something
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that's out of turn. I mean, this is what happens. Lesson,
learn when you go to break and open up the
next hour talking about your refusal to pay a dime,
your refusal to pay a dime for a bag in
a grocery store. This is the stuff you get, all right,
this is what happens. You want to call it karma,
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you can call whatever you want. But fred, I think
you've learned a valuable lesson. Don't you dare mess with
the plastic bag gods that run this country, or else
you're going to have to deal with the repercussions.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Oh that was pretty stupid. I don't know what happened here,
but my line was cut. My line was cut, and
it had to be by Big Lumber because I was
talking about paper bags and that's somebody from the lumber industry,
and I know somebody that works in that industry. Cut
my line. But I'm back now. But you can't silence me,
No you can't. So anyway, the thing was, do not
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use paper bags under no circumstances. Okay, they were basically banned.
We got a better idea, plastic. Everybody used plastic bags.
This will be the best. We'll save the trees. We'll
use plastic bags. Everybody used plastic bags. Okay, we did.
We got a problem. We're going back to paper. Bring
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your own or paper. Could we get it straight? Please?
Can we get it straight? Paper bags were awful, all right,
they made you stop. Now we went to plastic. Okay,
now they're awful. They went back to paper.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
God, I'm gonna have to push back on this, to
be honest with you, paper bags. That was always that.
Whenever my mom would go to the store, she always
preferred paper bags, and she would tell us because they
sat better upright, so if you had something, it wouldn't
tip over. So she always preferred paper bags. And also
for those of you that remember if you bought grocery
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and put it in a paper bag, depending on the
shape of the bag. Afterwards, in the condition you could
use that for a book cover. You remember that you
could cut the paper bag and use that for a
book cover. Old school move. So it actually served two purposes.
So whatever you were getting and whatever damage you were
doing to the environment or whatever, you know, hippies were
out there trying to do to get rid of paper bags,
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it did serve two purposes. It got your groceries home,
it got them organized, and it also served as a
book cover after you were done with it.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, and you could wear it over your head and
cut two holes in it if you would.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
For the New Orleans Saint that is true, the Aints.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
You would be the Aints.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
By the way, when's the last time somebody did that
in this town? Who's been Well? There were the Angels
never mind? Yeah, yeah, haven't the Angels had had paper
bags over their head before?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
A gay heman, you would know that.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Did Did the Clippers ever have that?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, even in their living years?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, no, because who would do that? I mean, tickets
were like twelve cents and you got to see Larry
Bird and Michael Jordan play it.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
To think about that. Clippers tickets were two cents more
than a bag.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, just about that.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
And by the way, Angel fans don't dress up with
paper bags there and they're over their head. They dress
up as empty seats. Oh, there we go, that's how.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Geez, that's pretty impressive line, Kevin. Yeah, so there are
a lot of those fans now, right, the empty seat fan.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Oh, there's a ton you know what it was wild. Though.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I'll say this. I will say this, So what I
went to so I'd never been to. I've been to
Angel Stadium a thousand times because I would fill in
there doing radio with the great Jeff Biggs back in
the day. So I've been to Angel Stadium a thousand times.
I've been to Monster Jam. I've taken my son to
Monster Jam there. It's the place is filled every time,
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like there's not an empty seat, like it's you know, however,
many thousands of people go from Monster Jam and Angel
Stadium every time. I went to the Angels Cubs game,
first of all, majority Cubs fans, not a surprise considering
just sort of you know that fan base and the
Angels and where they're at and all that. But I
go to use the restroom. One of the urinals is
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overflowing onto the floor, and these two guys spent about
five minutes laying into Artie Moreno to him about how
cheap he is, how cheap the organization is. They can't
even get decent plumbing here. They can't even get the
urinals fixed, They couldn't maintain, they couldn't retain show. Heyo, Tom,
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I we just went off on Arti Moreno and I'm
with my son and we're washing our hands, and I
wanted to tell him, like, hey man, this is what
it's like when you're root for a team like this.
So they may not have paper bags on their head
because you know, Fred's bought all of them and there's
none left. But at least they did take time to
air out the fact that their urinal cakes were overflowing
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onto the floor. Because Artie Moreno's a cheap ass.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
You understand why teams need to stadiums, right, you understand that.
I mean I saw a thing this morning City Field,
New York, which is beautiful. If you've not been, you
should go a big thing. They put dividers up between
the urinals, and now everybody's excited because they put dividers
up between the urinals. Ah man, And I think the
post was see what we care about the fans here?
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Now for you, that's that's probably very disappointed.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I mean, how am I supposed to look at some guys.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Watch exactly because you're always curious about what time it
is when you're in there. Yeah, I understand that, But
the reason you need a new stadium, and at what
point normally is the time for a new stadium after
how many years? Do we know?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Twenty five?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Correct? But why is it why?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I don't know, because Honda Center's old now at.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
This point nice though, really it's nice, okay or maybe not.
My point is this, The reason you build new stadiums
is because everything internally starts to break or get old,
like plumbing. You don't think that, No one thinks that.
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But after so many years.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Oh yeah, plumbing goes.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yes. Yeah, that's why every twenty five years they go,
it's time for a new stadium.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Because and I say, look the Honda Center, like that
was the the spot to be. And I think what
Honda Center opened up? Was it ninety four ninety five? Maybe,
so they're looking at thirty years.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
But maybe they've done some stuff we don't know about.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
But ten years ago, walking into Honda Center, ten years ago,
I can remember being like, wow, this this place looks
old and so yeah, maybe they've they've repaired, yeah, like
it felt. And I've been there since, and but it
just it seems I don't know because I don't know
if it's old or if it's outdated. Like, but there
was the look, there was a time where Honda Center
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was the spot like that was that was the place,
you know, like they had to wrestle Mania there. They
had all sorts of big events there they had to.
But I want to say, Honda Center open up in
ninety five. When did Staples Center open up?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Kevin ninety That was ninety and I was the first
the first year the Kobe shakh Lickers won the championship,
So that was the ninety nine two thousand, So ninety nine, yeah,
is when they opened. I just looked up Hondason and
by the way, apparently they're in the midst of a
renovation right now and then go it's a one billion
dollar renovation project that's going to be completed next in
twenty twenty seven, so two years from now. So they've
already started making incremental adjustments to that, to that arena.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I guarantee you if some of that is plumbing, you
don't even know about it. There's a lot of stuff
that goes on that they have to fix or maintain
or uprate.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Did you did you see the video of a couple
of years I think it might have been last year
the year before so FedEx Field where the Washington Commanders play.
You know, formally known as something else that I won't say.
Fred probably wants to say their former name, but I
wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I was remember what was it you said it last week?
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Fred, what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Credit was a field?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
No, the name of the former football team, the former.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
No, that was a baseball team. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
By the way, if anybody's playing Fred Rogan's racial slur
bingo game, you can check that box off from last week.
So the FedEx Field where the Commanders play, people noticed
that it was leaking, and they're like that there was
drops coming down on them, and they couldn't figure out
because it was there was no rain in the forecast.
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And it turned out that one of the pipes from
the bathroom that goes over the top of the overhang
above them had broken and was leaking everywhere. And the
Commanders tried to tell everybody, oh, no, that wasn't you know,
that wasn't from the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
That what?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
So you could have had possibly sewage from the bathroom
draining out onto people, because that too, is an older stadium.
Dan Snyder, the former owner, was a guy much like
Ardie Moreno, maybe not. You know the off field stuff
that people have been complaining about for years, and he
would go on the cheap and he would do it,
and to your point, the plumbing went awry. And next
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thing you know, people are sitting there trying to watch
a bad football team, and they've got some guy's fece's
laying on their shoulder because they can't fix the plumbing
there at the stadium. It's unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well, there you go. That's why you have to fix things, Jonas,
That's why you have to maintain them.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Next to Dodger Stadium, what's your favorite venue in town?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Oh? Okay, Well I do love Dodger Stadium a lot. Well,
how many are there? Let's start with that. There's Dodger Stadium,
the Crypt, the Intuit Dome.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I mean, would you would you count Honda Center? Would
you count those places? Or is that all beneath you
because it's so far south?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
No, I wouldn't you said in town? You said in town? Okay,
So you know what, I think the Honda Center is
cozy and friendly. I do. I'd like it there. I okay.
And and Kevin has yelled at me about this before.
I'm sorry, I think Angel Stadium is awful.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Now yell this strong. I just think it's as the crep.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It's not as you're trying to make it seem like
it's the open Alameda Coliseum.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
It's not that bad, friend, It.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Really isn't that.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
No, no, but it's not great, But it's not that terrible.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I mean the parkings convenient. You can get in and
out of there quicker than do your stadium. That's right,
that's less people.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
But that's the best part, the parking. The parking is
the best part. But when you go in and you
know what it's it's laid out well, but it just
needs to be upgraded. It's like everybody loves Wrigley Field,
and to me that place is just like, oh.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
God, have you been there recently? They've done some stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
It looks three years ago. I was there.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
It looks every time I go there, because we go
once or twice a year. Every time I go there,
it looks different than the last time. They've They've expanded
and grown so much around there that it's so corporate
now it's different, but they have improved some of the
stuff there. Have you been to MGM Grand in Vegas recently?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
No?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Okay, that place got old in a hurry, like it
actually kind of reminds me of Hondas. And I don't
know when MGM Grand, the MGM Grand Garden Arena like
was built, but that too was one of those places
that was the go to spot. And now you've got
t Mobile and you've got other venues in Las Vegas
that are that are sort of the the in thing now,
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but it is it is kind of crazy. You think
about all these venues that have had all these and
it is right around the twenty five year mark where
you start to look around and go, yeah, that's a
place that needs to be upgraded.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Ninety three, by the way, is one of the MGM
Grand opened.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, all around the mid nineties.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
To me, the MGM Grand is too massive. It is enormous.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
They but if you go you would think that, and
then if you go into the arena now it's tiny.
You can walk the concourse in two and a half minutes,
the entire concourse, like I swear. That's what was like
shocking to me because I went out there. I was
covering the the Pacquiow fight in July and I just
kind of walked around in between fights just trying to
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check the place out because I had seen a UFC
fight in two thousand and eight, and it seemed massive,
and it's like going back to your old elementary school,
Like you go back and you go, oh, this place
seemed massive when I was there, and then you go
back there and it's tiny. MGM. Grand Garden Arena feels tiny.
Dodger Stadium always feels massive. Like you go in. You
could probably set Wrigley Field inside Dodger Stadium because Wrigley
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Fields tiny like it is like it's a confined space
because it's in a neighborhood. You you go to Dodger
Stadium and you see how massive it is, and it
feels like it gets bigger the more they add on
to it every year.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, well, they've done a masterful job with Dodger Stadium.
But when Goggenheim took over stan Cast and said they
were going to do that, there was a train of
thought at first, are they going to tear the stadium
down and start again? And really Dodger Stadium Frank McCourt
tried to make some improvements, but Frank McCort ran out
of money, so the stadium did need a lot of work,
and they really did a terrific job Googenheim, They get
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a fantastic.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Can I ask you a dumb question? And maybe this
is a bigger conversation, but I asked this because you
have dinners with all these people, Like nobody knows who
the hell I am in town? All right, but you're
Fred Rogan, You've got stroke. Why isn't there more closer
by to Dodger Stadium for people to enjoy like postgame?
(15:38):
Like why have they not figured out when everybody else
has figured out? Hey, like even Angel Stadium, the you know,
you've got Brewery X, the Carl Strout, Like, you've got
all these different places right there. If you want to
go to with Dodger Stadium, that's the one gripe. I
think everybody has that after the game, if you know,
you want to have a couple more throat burners and
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you want to have a time after the game, you're
sitting in a parking lot. It takes forever to get out,
and then there's nowhere really immediate to get to to
where you can hang out and have a couple of
more drinks or enjoy the rest of your day or
the rest of your night to where In a lot
of places nowadays they don't just build a stadium. They
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build an entire community around the stadium with small businesses
and places for people to hang out, much like they
did with you know, by Staple Center when it opened
up and they started expanding there. Why haven't they done
more with that? Is it even allowed? Do they have
the right to do it? All?
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Right? Do you know? Honestly? Because there was an answer.
And when Frank McCort owned the Dodgers, what he was
trying to do is hang on, hang on to get
to that big TV deal, because then all of a
sudden he would have operating capital. He wasn't fluid in cash.
Everything was leveraged. When he had that money, the plan
was to develop the parking lot and build a ballpark
(17:00):
village there, restaurants, businesses, bars, things like that, and turn
Dodger Stadium into a destination spot three hundred and sixty
five days a year. So even if the Dodgers weren't playing,
they would have this area there where you could go,
and some even suggested they would build condos. Now, when
they started the talk about America's most important project, the gondola,
(17:23):
and I believe that's Frank's son that's overseeing that, but
you look at it and say it's the same deal.
People thought, oh, this would be cool. They sold it
as you go from Union Station to Dodger Stadium, and Kevin,
we did something like one percent of the crowd would
be able to do that on the gondola.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Less than one percent of the traffic congestion would be
be improved by this gondola project. So basically negligible will
make no difference whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Right, So then if you really looked at what they
submitted plan wise, and you knew how to read these things,
you realize that somewhere in there they wanted to be
able to develop the part parking lots. Now, because Frank
McCourt owns half the parking lots or some percentage of them,
(18:07):
because that's how he made his money with parking lots.
I think he sold a couple one of them in
Boston to be able to buy the Dodgers. So the
plan was to develop the land in the parking lot
at Dodger Stadium. Jonas and I have to tell you,
I'm not sure that's dead. I don't know when it
would happen, but I assure you that that is somehow
(18:30):
part of the overall plan to construct what you're talking
about and put it in the parking lot.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
That's what that's That's my one gripe with Dodger Stadium. Like, look,
the traffic is the traffic.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
It is.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
What if you don't like traffic, don't live here, Like
that's just that's when when people bitch about traffic in
other parts of the country, I always laugh. But that
what I would say is the one thing that is
quote unquote missing is when you go there. It's not
just go to the game, hangout and then you know,
you got to leave early or you got to like
to try and navigate through the traffic. Like if you
(19:04):
had stuff there for people to do postgame, maybe some
people could wait for the traffic to die down while
they're going to you know, to throw a bowling at
And I know these are all you know like these
you know, these these sorts of problems, you know, on
the grand scheme of things aren't aren't big problems. But
if you were to nitpick about anything when it comes
to Dodger Stadium, I would say the surrounding area, what
(19:27):
can you do to make that more appealing to people
to where they can enjoy not just Dodger Stadium, but
the surrounding parts of it. I mean, it's just still
it still doesn't explain why you don't pay ten cents
for plastic bags. I mean, still like that whole conversation.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, I know, I would like to continue that, but
then we would be doing a one hour podcast with
no commercials, So we had to take a break at
this point. I mean, I don't know what you think
you're doing. You come in here and you think, well,
I've just got something to say, and we don't have
any kind of format we follow. Sorry, when you're here,
is that how this works?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Sorry about that, Fred, That's right.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
We'll get you caught up on its lip next.
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Speaker 1 (20:24):
All right, Jonas Knox is in today for Rodney, and uh,
it has been a very long day. Much has happened.
We have an obligation to you to get you caught
up and Kevin will do that with it slit It's Lip.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
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Speaker 3 (20:44):
As you and Jonas alluded to earlier in the show,
the countdown is on to the return of Lebron. James
and sham Sharanire earlier today set that Lebron is aiming
to return to the Lakers tonight when they host the
Utah Jazz is going to go through his on court
work like he typically does, to see how he responds,
and if he feels well enough, it is his intention
to play against Utah tonight. The interesting thing is, so
(21:05):
they play against Utah tonight, they don't play again until Sunday,
so they have a long stretch of time here of
days between games. So I guess the question is, even
if he is ready, do you just rest him an
additional night anyway, knowing you have what four days in
between before your next game in Utah?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, Like, why would you if you got that much
time in between, why not just you know, save him
for another game, pick up an extra few days of rest.
Because the only thing that could have it is if
he comes back and he tries to push it because
he wants to, you know, have his impact on the team,
and next thing you know, he gets hurt and he's
out for you know, another month or so, Like yeah,
to me, like, why why if the calendar is going
(21:42):
to give you a break like this, why not use
it to your advantage?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Why rush it? And on top of it, they're ten
and four. There's absolutely no need for him to come
back right now.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
And with all due respect, they're playing against Utah geez,
I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Well, I'm just saying it's like they're ten and four.
They don't need him. Now, take some more time, and
when you come back, be ready and then you know,
hopefully you can go for a while. I already thinks
he feels like a kid, He feels great. Those days
are done. All we need to know is when you're
coming back and how much of an impact you're gonna
(22:18):
make with these guys, because they're doing pretty well in
their own this group without him, No, they can out
win it with him, they got a much better shot.
So there's no rush.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
But wouldn't you say that this also gives you a
glimpse as to what they're going to look like next
year because he's not coming back right.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
No, yes, unless Rob Polinka says again, you know, it
would be my hope that when I die, Lebron is
buried with me because I want him to be with
me the rest of my life.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I mean, that does sound like something Rob would say,
So I know it sounds like you're trying to exaggerate Fred, but.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
We've heard Rob talk before, so he's just saying, but.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
You want his corpse in the casket with you?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, I just want to We're not giving him up
no matter what I mean. If you were to ask him,
he would say he is the greatest laker of all time.
Lebron James next to Contavious called well Pulp when Bread
came down from the sky.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah. But also, I mean, don't you think he was
just kind of playing the game. I mean, he seems
like he's really fallen in love with Luca and and
had no problem was sort of giving the keys to Luca,
even while not telling Lebron James about it. So maybe
he's maybe his new fetish is Luca. Maybe he's over
Lebron Good Good, So maybe he wants to sleep with
(23:39):
Lucas corpse as opposed to Lebron.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Hey, whatever he wants.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I don't know how Lebron's corpse will take to that though,
So you might have a beef of the undead between
Lebron and Luca, and I don't think we want that,
you know, of course, hundreds of years in the future. Anyway,
getting back to the Dodgers, we talked about this earlier today.
Jack Harris wrote a piece in the La Times this
afternoon about Cody Bellinger possibly being on the Dodgers radars
to rejoin the team. Of course, he can play in
the outfield. He can also spell Freddy Freeman at first base,
(24:05):
and Jeff Passon of The Evil four Letter reported this
just a little bit ago. He says, the Dodgers have
quote unquote shown interest in a reunion with Cody Bellinger
as well. He would obviously become much cheaper, at least
you would assume he wouldcome much cheaper than Kyle Tucker.
And obviously there's a familiarity there.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
And he, you know, I would argue, had a better
year last year. I know it's the short porch with
the Yankees in right field, but yeah, look, if you
he knows the culture, he knows the locker room, the
fans would love it. You know, who knows the clubhouse?
The fans would love it. Like that would make a
lot of sense, and you'd probably get him at what
(24:43):
a fourth a third of what you would have to
pay Kyle Tucker based on he's only gonna want here there.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, well, we're talking what four hundred plus million dollars
ten twelve years for Kyle Tucker. I'm looking at the
reporting for Cody Bellinger. It's about five to six years,
one hundred and fifty to one hundred and seventy five million.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
It's about yeah, it's about right. And it's about what
he was making or scheduled to make in some of
these deals that he's gotten in and around twenty five
to thirty million dollars a year. But he wanted the
long term security like he had opt outs in his
Cubs contract. He had obviously the one with the Yankees.
And yeah, look, and I would say if you asked
(25:20):
Dodger fans just sentimentally to include that with it, they'd
rather have Cody Bellinger than Kyle Tucker.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Oh my god, Dodger fans would That's all they want.
I mean, if you check social media, that's all they want.
Bring back Cody Bellinger. There's a reason they let him leave. Now,
I think your point is well taken. He had a
better year than Kyle Tucker. Yes, he had a better
year Kevin Wdley two sixty career hitter right in that.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Ballpark, something like that.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Well, the reason they let him leave is because, with
all due respect to him, he was terrible his last
two years.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
He had the shoulder injury.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
He knocked his shoulder out of its socket when they
won in the bubble or whatever you want to call
it out there in sexas during COVID, and he just
wasn't the same after that until a couple of years.
I think Scott Boris even mentioned that in his free
agent courtship when he decided to leave the Dodger So
I think he didn't leave here on the greatest of terms.
But time heels wounds, and the Dodgers are still a
great team, and he's obviously a good player, so maybe
(26:13):
the they can mend the fences a little bit.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I would be surprised if the Yankees let him go,
just based on what he did there and and sort
of his and look, there's also been conversation apparently all
is all his exes want him too, because the Cubs
are also interested, and like, apparently there's that also, but
you know, they're cheap, they're not going to pay those prices.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
They never do. So it's just.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Five five one fifty or six one seventy five is
what I've seen as the projection.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
For covid F. Wouldn't the Cubs pay.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
That because it's the Cubs. They don't want to do.
They don't want to do any deferred deals. They don't
want to make long term commitments like that. That's like
Tanner Scott was about to be a Cub and they
balked at the deferred payments. Same with Alex Bregman. Like
Alex Bregman, like the reason why Justin Turner was a
Cub last year is because the Cubs balked at whatever
contract demands Alex Bregman had and so they went with
(27:06):
Justin Turner for like six million dollars the cheap.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Well, they don't make any money despite the fact that
they are in Chicago and have their.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Own TV deal. They're just trying to break even.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
That's what the owners is breaking even. That's it. Yeah, Yeah,
they're struggling every day. Yeah, just like the owners in
Kansas City. Same thing, Pittsburgh, Cobbs, Pittsburgh, same thing. Birds
of a feather of course.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Yeah, all right, that's what's lighting up the headlines.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Okay, we'll come back and put a bow on this
in a minute.
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Speaker 1 (27:59):
All right, Jonas Aden for Rodney Today and Jonas, it's
always a pleasure to have you. Before we get out
of here. I'm sure you guys discussed this last night.
Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens benched for the first time
first series of last night's game, Cowboys game disciplinary reasons. Yeah,
first series they were benched.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Well, you got you gotta lay the hammer down. You
gotta lay the hammer down. I mean, it is what
it is, you know, Like that's imagine that as a
punishment from Brian Long. You know, Fred, You're gonna miss
the first segment.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
That's really good. That's really making your point. It's really
letting people know, like don't screw around here. We drive
a hard bargain.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
By the way, how bad are the Raiders That those
two guys were benched the first series and nobody would
have known unless the Cowboys talked about it because they
didn't need those two guys.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I actually, and we had Vinnie on earlier. I am
dismayed over the Raiders this year. I thought they could
not be this bad.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
They're They're awful And back the way. Are the Raiders
and Cowboys the two most popular NFL teams in town?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Well, the Raiders are. I don't know about the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Cowboys have a pretty strong fan base here.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, but they yes, yes they do. I don't know,
and I see what you're saying. I would say this
is awful to say. I'd say the forty nine Ers
are more popular here than the Cowboys. Really. Yeah, yeah,
it's top Rams. It would be tough when they came back.
If things had gone differently, if they had got a
(29:36):
stadium down in San Diego, it would have been the
Rams and Raiders here in LA because the Raiders wouldn't
have gone to Vegas. Ultimately, it was the best thing
for but it would have been the Raiders and Rams
in the stadium stan Kronki built. I don't know if
that would have been doing the Rams any favors.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, I mean the percentages will because the one thing
you can say, anybody who's been to Vegas since the
Raiders have moved back there, or since the Raiders have
moved there, like they like that that was a good move.
Like that is like that town is becoming a sports town,
maybe more so than it's becoming a casino and gambling town.
(30:20):
Like they they are all about sports there. They're all
about the biggest sporting events that are going there now.
So between them and the Golden Knights and now the
A's or whatever they're going to be called when they
move there, you know, like it feels like they've made
significant progress trying to become more than just a gambling
town and people go there and they want to watch games,
(30:42):
you know, but unfortunately the product on the field is
way worse than I don't think anybody thought it was
going to be.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Well, if that's the case, then they'll get ready for
the A's. What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
But don't you have more confidence and at least at
least the A's have a farm system that they can
just supply, you know, to the Yankees at the trade
deadline each year. At least the A's have got some
younger talent there. I mean, the Raiders have younger talent
and they're made in active for games like Ashton. Genties
nowhere to be found because that offensive line.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Is so brutal.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
So I would have more confidence in what the A's
can do than I would the Raiders at this point.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Mom, we will find out. Yeah, and thank you for
sitting in great.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
They've always fun. We got a lot done today, Fred
lot lizards and who's a Chico Swavee or whatever that
guy's name is, Yeah, Chico Schultz. Feel we got a
lot done.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
It's always fun when you're here, Ronnie, thank you, Kevin
appreciate it. And we're back tomorrow at noon
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