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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Okay, we continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Peak on five
seventy LA Sports. Betty Bond Senior will jump on the
program that's coming up in the very next segment. But
let's talk Rodney just about the Dodgers overall winning the
World Series, what it means to the city. I like
to say they're on their world tour from the time
they won. They were on Dancing with the Stars, they
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were on Jimmy Kimmel, they were at the Laker game,
and they were at the Kings game.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
They have a very full.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Dance card, and I think Blake snows at every one
of those events. That's how much he wanted to win.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
He was soaking it all in, wasn't he.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
He was cheasing so hard.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
You could tell he absolutely like he said, he wanted
to be here. He wanted a World Series championship, and
he wanted to do it as a Dodger.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I think we talked about the other day.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
He made it known that he wanted to be a
part of this team. I think I think he knew
and been trying to get here since twenty twenty Fred
kem Cash pulled him out of the game. He wanted
to be a Dodger after that, and he finally got
his wish and played a big role. Just think about
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them and him and this staff going forward, like next year,
in the next year, the next two years. Now, you
can't guard against any injuries, but they had massive injuries
on that pitching staff, the starting rotation.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Just imagine if.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Not all five guys are down, but just maybe one
and not at the same time. You know, I just
think now that they're gonna get settled in. Yamamoto's gonna
have another year under his belt with the team. Blake
Snell's gonna have another year under his belt with the team.
Otani's second year pitching with the team now is his
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team ain't going anywhere. Freddy ain't going anywhere anytime soon.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Well, the thing is, the only thing that will get
them is age, because they're older now.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, but I'm not you don't get out the next
two years. Think about the next two years because yeah,
Freddy's getting older and Mookie's gonna be older, and you
know the other guys, the oscars on the back eight,
uh so you know, maybe even the back four now
and so yeah, there's gonna be some turnover. I'm just
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talking about that. Just the very near future. The next
two years, they got a chance not only the three
pet but the four peat.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, I agree with you. By the way, I think
they have a very good chance to one of the
next two years. I would agree with that. What about
the relationship the city has with these guys. So if
you lived in Los Angeles for any period of time,
what teams did you connect with the most? So, all right,
if you go far enough back, everybody knew the Showtime Lakers,
Magic Kareem Worthy, Coop, that group Byron Scott, right, everybody
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knew that group as they won. I would say the
next team that had that kind of impact in the
city the Showtime Lakers, I should say, the Kobe Shack Lakers.
Same kind of thing. You knew those guys. They were
part of the fabric of Los Angeles. They were top
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of the mind, center stage, and the only other team
that I think has had that kind of love affair
with the city. And you love the Dodgers, you love
the Lakers year and year out.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I got it.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
But I mean this is a different level. Is this
Dodger team. I think there's that same emotional connection with
this Dodger team as there was with the Showtime Lakers
or the Shack Kobe Lakers, and really aside from those three,
and everybody has their favorites. You know, well, I love
the Kings with Gretzky, I got that, But I mean
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the biggest picture.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, they didn't.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I don't think the Kings as great as that time
was with Gretzky. The run like the like the potential
run the Dodgers have the three peat with the with
the Lakers, and you know Showtime went in five and
what eight years? The only thing maybe I would say
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because they didn't have there wasn't a team here is
the Pete Carroll two thousand and three, the two thousand
and six, two thousand and five USC team, that run of.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Three national titles.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
It's uh, that was they They captured the city and
there was a love affair with USC, right because I
don't think there was any any other college team on
the west coast. Oregon was coming on at that point.
They were making their run and getting getting themselves going.
But on the west coast, you go west of the
Mississippi for at college football was all USC. And so
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that that mid two thousand, two thousand, like I said,
two thousand and three, four, five, the three Heisman trophies
in there, you know, back to back national titles.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
It was that.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
But but yeah, this team had the chance to blow
it all away, blow all of them away. They win
one more and go in three p and in this era,
this stage and this time where it is extremely difficult
to do that. And we've talked about it throughout these
playoffs about no team has done it since the Yankees,
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and then no national team, no national league team since
the Big Red Machine and seventy five seventy six, that's
the last time a team national league team repeated as champs.
That is incredible and that tells you how hard it is.
So all those stupid arguments about the Dodger buying championships,
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it doesn't make sense. It doesn't hold weight because there's
not been a team that has done it, and it
goes to show you how hard and how difficult it
is it is to do. But I'm looking at the
next two years, Fred, while these guys are all still
in their prime. I mean, I'm not talking about hey,
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there's just at the end of the day, No, they're
still in their prime prime. The only guy that you
look up on this team he say, maybe he's he's
filling the age a little bit. Is probably Freddie, you know,
going forward in the next year and he's still playing
at a high level. Who hit another walk off home
run in the World Series? So you know, what are
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we talking about? And and you know, yeah, maybe Munsi
up there a little bit, but he still got it.
It went off the facade in Toronto a big bomb.
And the thing about it, fred is that what we
talked about. You mentioned it earlier in this show. The
depth of the Dodgers gives them an opportunity to do this.
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The depth, these guys don't have to play one hundred
and fifty games.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
They don't have to.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
They don't have to play one hundred and twenty games.
They just gotta be ready for October. And because of
their depth, they will be allowed to do that. Munths
he doesn't have to play all those games at third base.
You know, Freddy, They're gonna have to drag him off
the field because Freddy wants to play every single game,
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but they're gonna have to force him not to. You know,
Mookie is getting those days. He's kind of in that
almost in that Freddy a couple years younger, than Freddy,
but in that Freddie category where he's not gonna need
to play one hundred and twenty games or one hundred
and thirty games or anything like that, just be ready
for October. And the depth that they have allows those
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guys to be interchangeable and not put that wear and
tear on the body, including the pitching staff. We saw
it this year. We saw it this year where everybody's, oh,
they're in trouble. They're in trouble. They're they're not getting
enough innings in you know, this start is not getting
enough and they're going to be rusty when October comes around. No, no,
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it was all part of the plan. And if we
laugh about it, we laugh about it, but it actually
was part of the plan.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, it was. It was part of the plan.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
And because of that, for that very reason and the
way they operate and the success of the team and
the players, it is very rare. We live in a bubble.
Sports is a bubble, believe it or not. If you
love sports, it's a huge thing to you, but you know,
it's a very insignificant part of life.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
It truly is. It's a bubble. If you're in it,
you're in it.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
And you love it, you're passionate about it, but it's
an entertainment vehicle and it's really hard. And in our
world we know all the players, but in the real world,
it's very hard to transcend sports. It's really hard to
become top of mind for everyone, not just the people
that care about the team or the sport. Michael Jordan
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was that guy. Tiger Woods was that guy. So you understand,
those are the kind of people that transcended what they do.
Everybody knew them. I would say the Kobe shack Lakers
certainly transcended to a degree, and Showtime transcended, Magic Johnson
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transcended not even a question. Everybody knew this Dodger team,
if it hasn't already, it's very close to transcending. Meaning
worst case, if you live in LA.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
You know those guys.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
And if you live in LA, it's not like, well, yeah,
I'm a Dodger fan, you know the players. When you
get to that point, when a majority of a market
gets to that point, you have transcended sports, and then
that is something really special. And I think that's what
this Dodger team has done. They have transcended baseball. And
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because they've won because of their skill set, because they
spend all this money. For whatever reason, they have transcended.
And everybody in Los Angeles is on a first name
basis with the guys or nickname. I mean, you don't
call mash Muncie, Keik, Mookie, Freddie think about it Row.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I mean, yeah, he goes on and on. You know them.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Now, we know him, and if you listen to the
radio station, you know him. No hard that is for
most people to know him. How incredibly difficult that is
for most people to know them. And when they do,
that's when it's something special. That's when it's something unique.
Roki Otani Yamamoto, you don't even call them by the
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first and last name. It's one or the other one
as you feel like you know them, and at that
point in time, something special has happened. Now, there was
an international incident during Game four. I found it odd
right off the bat that Prince Harry and Megan Markle
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were sitting there behind home plate. Now, maybe it's just me.
I'd never seen them at a Dodger game. Doesn't mean
they hadn't gone, But that didn't seem like gigantic one
hundred and sixty two game, Dodger fans. But there they
were front and center and Prince Harry and you couldn't
miss them. I mean they were front and center. Prince
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Harry wore a Dodger cap. You gotta respect that, don't you. Yeah,
I gotta respect that. You're gonna sit right behind home
plate right walk the Dodger cap. I mean, Canada, that's
that's that's part of Great Britain, We'll see. That's the problem.
Is a Commonwealth country that the couple had called home
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and whose head of state is Harry's father, King Charles
the Third. So because he wore this hat, this Dodger cap,
he had to make a public apology to the people
of Canada. He wants to apologize to Canada. He was
under duress. He was under duress. There wasn't much of
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a choice. He said that wearing a cap felt like
the polite thing to do after he was invited to
the game by the team's owner. He later switched to
the Blue Jays cap for the rest of the series,
showing delated support for the only Canadian team in Major
League Baseball. So he says he was forced under duress.
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He was under duress. What happened was perhaps the Dodgers
didn't invite him, and he said, look, if you don't
wear this Dodger cat, we're gonna break both your legs.
You're under duress, You're in a bad state of mind,
so you better do what we say. Or you know something,
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We're not gonna feed in the stadium.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Club.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
That's not gonna happen for you. You're gonna have to stand
against the wall and watch everybody eat if you don't
wear that Dodger hat. And on top of it, if
you're being objective, do you think anybody wearing a Toronto
Blue Jay hat would be seated right behind home plate?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Remember the owner of the Diamondbacks when the Dodger fans
were all decked out in Dodger gear in that one
shot where you could see all the fans, he told
him to take off.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
The gear or we'll move you.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
If that didn't work, then he sent down Diamondback gear
to put on so everybody wouldn't be looking at the
Dodger stuff every pitch.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Wait, I don't remember that. Who did that? Diamondbacks? That
did happen to man?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, well that doesn't shock me that it's a guy that.
You know, that guy that wears the Marlins all the time,
mister Marlin, he's always behind home plate. Of course the
Marlins are not in it, not playing. It's random, but
he's always behind home plate. So you know, I don't
find it overly shocking. The guy plays enough money, you know,
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he's gonna sit wherever he wants and wear whatever he wants.
You know, if he could get away with it, Justin
Bieber would have been buying on plate with this Toronto
Blue Jay hat.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
That' have been a bad call. Thatt have been a
really bad call.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
He was instead, he was in the box, you know,
hanging out so nobody could really you know, see him
front and the center. That would have been a bad call,
especially if if he was, you know, wearing and sporting
all kinds of blue paraphernalia. That would have been That
would have been bad. His American sales and his record
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would dipped.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Wouldn't go well.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Today three relive the memories of World Series Game seven
year Dodgers bounce became back to back World champs. Here
the game on AM five seventy LA Sports on the
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The back champion Los Angeles Dodgers Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan
on a beautiful Friday, as we can get ready for
a really, really good weekend. Freddy, it's really the first
weekend we don't have baseball.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I know you feel a little empty, a little bit,
a little bit, a little bit, right, Bill, nostalgic.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
You know what's interesting now we have to kind of
shift gears. I mean, we'll keep talking about the Dodgers,
because that's what you want to hear about every day,
to be caught up on stuff and what might or
might not happen. But now everybody here has to start
shifting their focus. So, as I said the other day,
the NFL season officially kicks off this weekend.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Here, it's like nine games in.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
But now everybody will start focusing more on the NFL
because at this point in time, your mind is is
coming around.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
The Dodgers did it. That's great.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Now we move on like the Lakers have been playing,
the Kings have been playing.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
The Kings had beat last night.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
But now we start focusing on other things, and we
bring on our NFL insider, our good friend, Vinnie Bennie.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
How are you.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
I'm doing good. How are you guys doing? I survived.
H I guess they called that a football game last
night and had to graders in the Broncos. But yeah,
another another another long day at the office for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Vinnie, Vinnie, Vinnie. We got to start there, Vinnie, I know, unfortunately, Vinnie. Yeah,
a season that that sounded.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
And we've we've talked on the regular basis, Vinnie since
uh since trading camp basically, and how excited everyone was
about this Raider team this year, Geno Smith, Pete Carroll
with all of his energy, and this was, uh, this
was a perfect fit. And and here we are, Vinnie,
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that I look at that team and I don't I
don't know what I'm watching.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I really don't Yeah, what's the what's it?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I mean, what's obviously the mood is not great, and
you when you're losing like that and it's ugly, it's terrible.
But what is the attitude in the mood up there
at with the Raiders right now?
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Yeah, it wasn't good last night. There was a lot
of frustration inside the locker room and kind of like,
you know, why does this keep happening when you when
you look at last night's game, I mean the Broncos
were begging the Raiders to win that game and giving them. Yeah, exactly,
and you know, even on plays, you know how football
comes down to. A football game comes down to what
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three or four plays, which we're being really honest about it,
and the writers made the plays, but just on those plays,
they shot themselves in the foot a long run, you know,
by asking gent that would have put him in line
to you. They take a ten to nothing lead or
a fourteen to nothing lead, gets gets called back by
a rookie holding penalty, then a touchdown that would have
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that would have made a fourteen to nothing on a
nice play design and everything with Jae Tucker. What happens
a rookie gets called for offensive pass in appearance he
picked the guy. There's ways to do that, you know,
there's Rodney as a veteran that that you do it discreetly,
You make the play and you just kind of kind
of create a little bit of a room. But you
made it so obvious that every it seems like every
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referee on the on the on the field through a
flag on that one that touchdown. And then and then
and then when Dante Thornton gets wide open on a
long pass that could have given them a ten to
seven lead at halftime, he drops it, you know, And
it's just the plays were there and in a couple
of instances they made them. But they've got rookie mistakes
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or they have special teams breakdowns. It's just one thing
after another, and it's really frustrating because last night they
were a competitive football team. Last night they were competitive
against the Jacksonville Jacksonville Jaguars. They should have beaten the
Chicago Bears. But just uncharacteristic of a Tom or excuse
you know, of a Pete Carroll team, they just keep
having these these breakdowns. They can never put together four
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quarters of good football.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
That's got to be frustrating for everybody there. I mean,
because going in Vinnie, the expectations were much.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Greater than this. Mm.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Yeah it was. And Pete Carroll, you know, wasn't shy
about setting those expectations. He's gonna win a whole bunch
of games. He wins ten games going all the way
back to his USC days every every year. And and
if you averaged all that out, he did every year
from his US days until he stepped down with the
Seattle Seahawks, his team's average ten wins per season. Well,
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that's not going to happen. And I think I think
in retrospect, he now knows he kind of been off
a little bit more than he can chew in terms
of setting those types of expectations. And what that does
does is it got all it got the fans, you know,
all excited and buying in and anything short of that,
and it looks like they're gonna fall well short of that.
You know, now all of a sudden, the good will
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that he had has gone out the window. There's a
lot of people now that that you know, are calling
for his job. I don't think that that's what they
should do, but you know, by by setting those expectations,
he created this massive letdown if you don't. And that's
that's what's going on right now. And you know what
they what they need to do is do a full rebuild.
And as tough as the of a pillows as it
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is a swallow, the best way to do that, the
quickest way to do that is really to finish with
the highest draft pick, and that that means losing games.
You look at the New England Patriots back to back years,
they finished with a third pick and the fourth pick.
What does that happen? What they get out of that?
Their franchise quarterback. It looks like Jake May is definitely
on his way and they got a left cackle for
the next decade, you know, in the in the LSU
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tackle Will Campbell and and and all of a sudden,
they spent some money and they built their building around it.
And that looks like a playoff team this year. So
it's probably a page that the Raiders should follow. They
they've always been kind of stuck in that middle and
that no man's land, and it doesn't really get you
the kind of talent that you need, especially at the
quarterback position. Uh, it's probably high time that that that
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they went ahead and and and kind of embraced that.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah, Yeah, that's like you said, it's a hard pill
of swallow when the it'd be one thing if the
expectations weren't high. You know, they went out and they
went out and sought Geno Smith. You know, Pekroll knew him,
and they found and we talked.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
They they got their guy.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
And when you don't that guy turns out not to
be the guy, it really sets your franchise back. Because
you've got today and today's NFL. You got to get
the quarterback right. And if you don't get the quarterback right,
it can set your franchise back a long long way.
And it just seems like that trickled down to the
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rest of the team. When the quarterback's not playing with
confidence and the head coach and the team doesn't have
confidence in the quarterback. Man, that's a recipe for, like
you said, getting the number one pick in the draft.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Absolutely, And you know, to me, you know, if we're
looking at this realistically, Pee Carol has brought in and
hired to raise the floor of the Raiders. I maybe
not the ceiling necessarily, but the floor, you know, and
considering his age and you know, how long he's probably
going to be here. You know, if he could do
that then hand it off to somebody, his time here
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will have been, you know, well spent. But after these
last couple of weeks and he's like, that's that's not happening.
I think the Raiders need to look at take a
good hard look at themselves and why they keep getting
it wrong in a in a lot of ways. And
maybe it's just time to bring in somebody that's going
to lead this thing.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
And I'm not saying the fire Pete Carroll or anything
like that, but but you know, as as time goes on,
bringing the leader that's going to be able to raise
the ceiling and the floor kind of at the same time.
And that's just not just not happening right now. And
and Gino, you know, it's it's it's hard to explain
how kind of far he's fallen. I wouldn't necessarily even
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though he didn't play great yesterday. It's tough when you know,
you spring open your speedy wide receiver and he drops
the ball, or when a touchdown pass to Tray Tucker
gets called back because of a of a rookie mistake.
You know, a lot of Raider fans, and rightfully so,
have been clamoring for the young guys to play. You
gotta play the young guys. You gotta play the young guys.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Well.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
When you have a bunch of young guys on the field,
the chances of mistakes happening increase. It's just the way
it is. I mean, even ashing genty, was that a
perfect throat by Gino that led to the interception? No,
it needs to be in front of him, and if
it is, you might be talking about a touchdown on
that play because he had a he had a foot
on his on his defender, but instead it bounces off
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of his hands or his shoulder pads glows up for
you know, an interception that goes on Geo Smith Ledger.
I don't necessarily think it was his fault, but that's
the way the season has kind of been going for
him and the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
All right, Benny forty niners, Rams give it out tight?
The division is? Is it a must win?
Speaker 4 (24:53):
I don't necessarily think it's a must win, but I
think the Rams without question has some revenge on their mind.
That was a if they should have won. You talk
about shoot yourself in the foot, You know, you can't
fumble up the goal line the way they did, And
so I think the Rams are the better football team
and I would be surprised if they don't win that game.
But it's up there, and it's the division rival, and
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it's a bitter rival at that in the forty nine ers,
those games are always pretty close. But talent wise, I
just think the Rams are the better team and they
just need to go up up to the Santa Player
and take care of business.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah, we talked about this, I believe yesterday or the
other day, Vinny. Is Matthew Stafford being overlooked as as
an MVP candidate. It just seems like all the tough
when quarterbacks come up that he is the forgotten guy.
You know, everybody talks to Josh Allen and and you
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know they Lamarg and Dalen Hurts and Jenna Hurts not
even there, but Patrick Maholmes and and all these guys,
and then the young guys come into play. You know,
you talk about Jordan Love and all these guys. But
but Matthew Stafford is the twelfth on the list, Like
he's in no man's land when it comes to rating
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the quarterbacks. And he just doesn't get the credit, Manny,
Why do.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
You think that is?
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Yeah, part of it is because of the lack of
success in Detroit, even though when you really look at
those years, i mean they were knocking on the doors.
I think they made the playoffs one year or at
least maybe even two and and we're knocking on the
door a couple of those years. He was holding that
darn thing together for all those years, like it was
a bad situation that Detroit, whatever winning they were doing
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when he was there, was basically the result of him. Uh,
you know, and uh and and what he did in
the passing game, he's he's he's one of the best
quarterbacks that has that has been in this league in
a long long time. I mean, he is such a
natural thrower of the football and to make every throw
and you know, the no look passes that he does,
that's hard to do. Uh, those those things. But maybe
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it's because of that lasting impression or all those years
where you know, he was kind of up there in
Detroit and the team wasn't very good and he just
kind of wrote wrote it all off, you know, and
and he didn't get the recognition on the good side
that he deserved, and you know he's coming to Los Angeles,
He's won a super Bowl, they're perennially in the playoffs.
I think he's playing as good as any quarterback in
the league right now. He doesn't do it necessarily in
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the flashy kind of a way that that the Josh
Allens and the Lamar Jackson's do it, but he's pretty
darn effective. And and the Raiders and the Rams need
to keep him healthy because healthy Matthew Stafford and Puka
and and and DeVante Adams, who, by the way, is
on his way to anundred thousand yard season. I think
Rampens are learning how how good he really is. Even
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at this age. They've got all the ingredients, and maybe
that's what it'll take another Super Bowl win or another
Super Bowl appearance for people to realize how good this
quarterback is.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Okay, let's switch over Sunday night. Pittsburgh and the Chargers.
I don't know the Chargers, even when they're good it all,
he seems like you're teetering with them. How important is
this game?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yeah, this is really important. And it's a sneaky game
to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Historically they're going to come they're
going to bring it, they're going to be physical, they're
going to get after the quarterback. And that's kind of
a been an issue obviously with the Chargers, with the
offensive line banged up the way it is now, losing
Joe Alt, that's that's a scary game for me, for
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for for testing, primarily because you know, the Steelers are
not going to feel sorry for him, and they're going
to take full advantage of where that offensive line is.
And and they've never been able to run the ball
against the Steelers. They can't. They can't have to, you know,
put themselves in a position where they got to drop back,
you know, thirty times a game, thirty five times a game,
because they'll they'll they'll make them pay for that. Number
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one and number two. You know, Aaron Rodgers is still
playing pretty good football himself too. So it's a it's
a dangerous offense, it's a dangerous quarterback that you're playing.
It's always a well coached team. So this is not
a game that the charge I don't think there's any
games anymore where with where their Chargers are, especially with
their offensive line, that they could just overlook anybody. So
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if they come right they're gonna be there. They should
be okay, but I don't know. For some reason, that
game scares the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah, yeah, me too, just just because the Chargers are
that Jecklin High team, right They one day you feel
like they can beat anybody and should beat anybody, and
then you know, for whatever reason is, and we say
it every year, this this team is snake bitten when
it comes to injuries and they get them at key
times during a year or key players on that lineup
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that that you just like shake your head, is like,
how does this keep happening to to to this team?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
In terms of the Rams and the UH and the
Chargers specifically Vinny, how critical is this a year? And
when you look around to to first, you know, justin
Herbert's got to get over the home you know, everybody
continues to put him right in the upper echelon of quarterbacks,
but he he's got to get over the hump in
terms of deep into playoffs, you know, hardball. Second year.
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Now he's got to He's got to make some movement.
And then you flip to the Rams. It's like, okay,
twenty UH was the twenty twenty was great, But when's
the next championship coming before Stafford is gone.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
And then Sean McVay.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
You know, he's still you know, regarded as one of
the top two to three coaches in the league.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
But where's that, where's that other championship?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
And I think that it feels like, I don't want
to say the walls or even in but it feels
like the pressure with these two teams to go deep
this year is really starting to be there.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Yeah, And I think in the RAMS case, you know,
they they've they've built up such good will, they're they're
they're pretty much always in the thicket things, and you know,
they they've they've lost it in unfortunate ways, especially last
year in the playoffs set the Philadelphia Eagles. They were
you know, they they they played the Eagles closer than
anybody in the in the playoffs and then the Super Bowl,
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so you know, if they could have just closed the
deal there, I think they go beat the Campiscity Chiefs
in the Super Bowl. It didn't happen, and that's that's
that's their fault. But I think they're okay, And it's
just it's it's what what you what you realize, especially
in the RAMS case, it's just so hard to thread
that needed to be one of thirty two. It really
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is very, very difficult. And you know, I think I
was talking to Mark Davis and he was looking back,
since he's been the owner of the Raiders since the
passing of his father, there's and that's two thousand and eleven.
There's only been eight teams that have won Super Bowl
since then. So that means that, as he put it,
twenty four other teams fail every single year. It's just
hard to it's hard to be the last man standing
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when it comes to the NFL. But the you know,
the Rams have always they keep putting themselves in a
position to at least give that a good run. And
they have one one, and so I think there's really
good will there. It's one of the most well run
organizations in all of football and all of sports. They've
been doing it together for a long time and and
that obviously shows. On the other hand, you're right about
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the Chargers because we keep having this conversation about them
and about Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert, you know, you can
you can make the case that he's every bit is
a good a quarterback, as as Matthew Stafford. From a
tools perspective, he can run better. You know, he's bigger,
he's he's he's got just as good of an arm.
He can make plays. He makes plays that you're just
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we're up there in the press box going, how the
heck did he just do that? Like he was getting
sacked and the next thing you know, he's throwing it
on a dime forty forty yards down the field. So,
but for the Chargers, it literally is just closing the
deal and that starts. It's it's it's it's kind of
crazy that we're saying this, but it starts with winning
a playoff game. They have not done that since they
got to Los Angeles, Whereas you know, the Rams have definitely,
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you know, won playoff games, got the multiple Super Bowls.
So they're i think, in pretty good standing and it's
not a do or die thing for for them. But
but for the Chargers, it's time for them to make
real progress. And as we said over and over and
over again, it starts with some playoffs. Except that's how
you build enduring, lasting connections with your with your with
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your fan base, and especially in the Chargers, Gate is
still trying to build a fan base in Los Angeles,
so you keep waiting for it to happen. But every
time they've gotten there, it's a situation almost like with
the Raiders. They shoot themselves in the foot when they
get there, and maybe this is the year that that
they don't. But it's so it's so interesting to me
when you look in their division, the AFC West, and
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I think the I think the Chiefs are the best
team maybe you know, definitely in their division, but you
look at the standings and if you're the Chargers, you're going. Man,
the Denver Broncos were better than the Broncos, and I
firmly believe that, and I firmly believe that it's not
even a discussion who the best quarterback is between Bo
Nicks and Justin Herbert. They're not even in the same universe.
And yet you look at the records and the Broncos
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are are now eight and two and there and the
Chargers are looking up at a team that's inferior to them.
So that's got to be frustrating as well.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Any great stuff. Thanks for coming on, all.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Right, guys, I have Agree one and Joy games this weekend.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
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You want? I like number six?
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for you. What would you do if somehow the company
paid you everybody's salary on Payday?
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Would you give it back?
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Speaker 3 (35:14):
Come on taking you for a ride on a Friday,
riding to bet fred Rogan.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yes, come on, Freddy, all right, what would you do?
Simple question? Put yourself in this guy's shoes. I think
I know what everybody would do, but maybe there's a
different way to look at it. So the guy works
at a factory. It's payday and he's waiting to get paid.
He looks at his account. He goes, oh my god,
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Oh my god, I've never been paid this much in
my entire life. That happened in Russia. So payday for
him was five hundred and eighty one dollars. Okay, it
was five hundred and eighty one dollars. You know what
his pay was on this one day, eighty seven thousand dollars.
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So the guy thinks to himself, Wow, I have done
a hell of a job. Good for me, good for me?
Work hard, or they about the time they figured it out.
How ald I work it right? Or I've been promoted
and nobody told me. But this is the happiest day
of my life. So the money's in the bank and
he's got it now. So it turns out a couple
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of days later, the company realizes no one in the
company got paid except him.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
On payday.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
As a matter of fact, due to a glitch, he
got everybody's salary. He got everybody's pay on one day.
So then the company calls him and says, hey, I
got to tell you Boris or whatever his name is.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Uh, why's he got to be Boris? Russian guy?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
I gotta be honest with you. You know, let's let's
have some borsch here and go over this. And the
problem is, you got everybody salary. You know what you
actually made, so you know, just please return all of
the other money, but keep your original salary. Any guy
says no, I'm not doing it. You paid me, it's
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my money. I'm not giving any back. It's your mistake,
it's not mine. So the money is mine. So then
the company says, look, you know it was a mistake.
You know you don't make eighty seven thousand dollars. You
better give the money back or will sue you. The
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guy says, sue me, I'm not giving the money back.
What do you think, Rodney. Oh, by the way, the
guy's name was Vladimir, not Boris.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
My bad Well close clothes right close, yeah, Vladimir Boris Natasha.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
You know all works. First off, this is where you know.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
It and and no disrespect to Russia, but it is Russia.
So the likelihood of him keeping the money and getting
away with it is very, very slim. And the fact
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that he refused and I don't know because we weren't
in the room, how how did he refuse? Did he
was he adamant about it? It was like, oh, hell no,
you ain't getting that money back. Oh maybe I got
to check it in with my accountants to make sure
that this is right. And it's gonna it's gonna take
a few months, Fred for me to figure this out. Meantime,
he's back, his bags are packed ready for the Bahamas.
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Man first, that's so, that's so sad because he got
a little taste to that. He saw those numbers, and
guy all excited to juice is a flowing Fred. And
when you say his wife's name was Natasha, something like that.
His last Natasha, Vladimir and Natasha. He told Natasha, hey, baby,
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we got a raise, we got a bonus, we got something,
but we got more money than we've ever had. Let's
stay pack your bags, baby, pack your bags. We're gonna
take a little trip. And it's hard to take that
back though, Fred, it's hard to go back. Once you've
seen it, once you've done it, once you've felt it,
it's hard to go back. But again, as I said
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at the beginning, we are dealing with Russia. We are
dealing with Russia, and you better give that money back, Fred,
or you know, he might end up missing somewhere.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Well, but look at it like this.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
That's a kind of way report it. Kind of like
mister Kim who keeps assalting mister Kim. Yeah, don't pop
it up. Here's what's interesting about it. So the company
said we wanted they're suing him. He appealed to the
Supreme Court of Russia. Vladimir did. Now you would think
this would be so cut and dried. They say, we're
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not going to hear this. Right, this is cut.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
It was a clear mistake getting the money. Are you
talking about like that, right? Yeah, at that side of it. Hey, hey,
it's a clear mistake, buddy, Come on, give the money back.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
The Supreme Court said, we'll hear the case the exact
doppinson of what you would think.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, we want to hear this one.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
We want to hear so listen, if somebody in that
company is piss off somebody in the Russian government.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
That guy might get to keep the money. He might
he might get to keep it, right.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
If yeah, if if somebody would, like you said, pissed
off somebody in there in the government that that's hearing
the case or a part of the case, or pissed
off a clerk or whomever, or you know, ran his
wife or kids off the road. I haven't and they
found out it was him. Hey, let's do all we
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can to help the little guy.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
It goes against every principle of our law, but we'll
make an exception in this case.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yeah, yeah, man, what would you do, Fred? How would
you handle that? If you were giving You weren't Fred
Rogan and people didn't know you, so you were just
a random cat? Would you give it right back?
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Right away?
Speaker 1 (41:30):
I'd give it back as soon as I could, because
I knew they'd come get.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
It in one way or another. They'd come to get it.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Oh, they'd come and get it. Unless it was such
an obscene amount of money. I mean, eighty seven thousand
dollars is a nice chunk, but it's not going to
set up for the rest.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Of your life.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yeah, let's say it was a half a million dollars
then you know, look, I think it was that. Then
what you would have to do, honestly, run to the airport,
get lost, move the money into an offshore account, and
ever you heard from again.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
That would be your only choice not to give it back.
You already thought this through.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
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