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Speaker 1 (00:00):
No, right, we continue on. Fred Rgan Jonas knocks in
today for Rodney out a five to seventy LA sports Jonas.
You want to shout out our winner.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Congratulations is in order for the one and only Cynthia
in Baldwin Park.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
You are You're the big winner.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
You are going to see the Dodgers and Padres next week. Hey,
don't be jealous that you didn't win. Well, Cynthia's thrilled.
Everybody else just relax. Yeah, don't lose it. We're giving
more tickets away this hour. Somebody else is going to
see that game. Then we expect you to have the
same kind of energy at that game as the people
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in San Diego had when the Dodgers were there. Hell yeah,
And if you don't show that in the first dating,
we will take your tickets away and eject you from
the stadium.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Good call.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Dave Weis will be there watching everybody. Dave Weis, who
does every job, will now also be in charge of that.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Dave We's walking over and being like, what, I need
those back? Please? It's like this, I don't like the energy.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
You got a minute, got a minute, Come on over,
give me the tickets back. Get out. You're not doing
what we need you to do. And you know what
that is, Jonas, If you don't know what's that? The
iHeart way? What do you think heart is in our name? Yeah?
(01:26):
Because we're full of love?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
All right, here's a man we love having on the show.
Let's welcome him. Dylan heard of the La Times. Dylan?
How are you today?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I am great? How are you guys?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Good?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Dylan?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
We're doing well. Love the piece you wrote on Dave
Roberts maybe long overdue, quite frankly, because he has been
the constant and the calm in every single storm. There's
an art form to that, isn't there?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:55):
There really is, And you know it's been kind of
fun here right. Roberts has been here now ten years
and it's just kind of watching his evolution.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I think as a manager over the years. You know,
obviously he's always.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Kind of you know, projected positivity and trying to kind
of you know, be call right or project the calmness.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I think like this is like, really he really is
right now.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
You know obviously he's you know, managed what like fourteen
fifteen hundred.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Games I think now to include like the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
He's seen this before, right, And I think there have
been times in the past maybe where it was kind
of like, Okay, I know this is a time where
I kind of have to project a certain calmness now
he just did, you know, And it's that I really
do think it kind of that kind of spreads down
to the players obviously. You know, look, he's got great
players that have won before. They know what they have
to do, you know. And Roberts himself kind of mentioned that.
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But all in all, I think the team is again,
they're very aware of their situation right now. And you know,
I think the last time I was on I kind
of mentioned this, right, this this stretch that they're in
right now, twenty six consecutive games against teams with putting records.
You know, they've got a bunch of pitchers down. This
was a kind of a dangerous spot in that, like, look,
things could have unraveled here, right, And I think the
team kind of understood, like, look, if we lose one game,
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it's not the end of the day, you know, we
just have to kind of just get through this period.
Schedule will get easier. Our guys will come back, right,
the pittures will come back and we'll be fine.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
And I think that that.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Calmness has really helped them again, you know, kind of
keep the bonta float, so to speak.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Till do you ever think because obviously there's been discussions
when the Dodgers have come up shorter or had disappointing postseasons,
there's been the calls for, well, they got to move
on from Dave Roberts, et cetera, et cetera, which I
always thought was laughable. You know, it's not him that's
going one for eighteen at the top of the order.
It's not you know, he's doing the best he can.
The players should be held accountable at some point or another,
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But do you has it ever been close? Has it
ever been close to where?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Maybe maybe like he legitimately was on the hot seat
if they didn't do this and they would have potentially
moved on.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Yeah, I think so, you know, because I think a
lot of times I think managerial changes, coaching changes, Uh,
these are like pr moves as much as anything. Sometimes
right and even you know, things can be going right.
But if you know you're a certain team or a
certain you know, college football program that has certain expectations
and you don't meet those and then you know, then
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it kind of gets into the internal politics of the organization,
right Obviously, you know, the people above him that put
the team together, they're not they don't want to be
held responsible, you know, right, you know the owner is
going to kind of be looking then it's just okay,
I'm spending a lot of money on this team, you know,
why isn't just working out?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
And then a lot of.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Fingerpointing happens, and sometimes you know, people get kind of
cast aside, almost as a sacrificial lamb. And I definitely
could see that happening, you know. I mean, honestly, if
if they don't win last year, I'm not saying he
would have been fired, but there definitely would have been
a discussion. I mean, that was kind of the word
around baseball, you know. You know, you kind of you know,
certain people I'll say this, like have a way to
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you know, communicate to you that they would be interested
in job if it game open.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
You know, maybe sometimes through intermediaries, and you.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Kind of started hearing, you know, you started getting those
phone calls last year, right from people. I think that
was the expectation throughout the industry. So yeah, I think
like winning last year, really did you know, I mean
it changed everything for Roberts, right, I mean, they put
him on this Hall of Fame trajectory.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
It got him this extension.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
I think the way they won, you know, with kind
of like again, he didn't have a he was playing
without a full deck last year. You know, people were
shocked the other day when they punted on that game,
and he punted a World Series game. You know, he
pumped an NLCS game. He's done this before now, and
I think, you know, from here on out, I think
it's going to be pretty, you know, clear sailing, and yeah,
I do think we're going to kind of forget some
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of these tough times that he did go through.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Well, there is some news on the horizon. Tyler Glass
now had his third bullpen session, Blake Snell had his
first bullpen session. They both taken major steps pardon me
to return sooner than later. Did you get any indication
of what these guys might come back?
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Yeah, I think, you know, I mean they're hoping obviously
within a month. You know, I think even ough Tani too.
I mean, I think, you know, there was like a
slight change in the in the way Roberts described, you know,
Otani's timeline. I mean he was saying, you know, it
could be. I mean, I think before he was pretty
comfortable saying it would be after the All Star break,
and you know, he moved to it's a non north
of non zero, right, non zero north of zero.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I think it's the way he praised it, that he
could come back before that. So I think the hope.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Is that, you know, these guys come back in the
next uh, you know, the Glassnow's case, you know, Tawane's case,
maybe the next few weeks. Glass now is probably about
a month out. But you know, you kind of don't
know either, right, I mean, you know, glass Now has
been kind of shut down, right, you know, during this process,
it has been stopping go. Uh you know, so I
do think they're hoping for the best, but until these
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guys actually get back out.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
There, you're never quite sure.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
So, you know, I think it's one of those things
they're kind of hoping for the best, but kind of
bracing themselves, you know, for the worst, which would be
to kind of continue on the way they are right now.
And you know, again, the goal is they're close enough
to the top two seeds let's not lose sight of that, right.
You know, obviously they're winning the division as a priority,
but you know, another priority to kind of finish as
a top two seed in the NL, to get that
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first round. By they're within striking distance there, right, They're
not that far behind the clubs to that number two seed.
I think they feel like, okay, we can kind of
even the way we're going right now. We can kind
of do this and let's make sure we're healthy for October.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Who's your unsung hero? Somebody not named Otani, Freeman Betts.
You know, we know the Hall of Famers, the future
Hall of Famers, but somebody that you look at and say,
this team is where they are because of blank.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Oh, that's a pretty good one, you know.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
I I mean, personally, I'm just like a big fan
of Kim.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
I guess I love the way he plays. I also think,
you know.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Him being at the bottom of the lineup and his
ability to kind of turn over the lineup. You know,
it was kind of a game changer there for a while.
You know, I think, you know, he played a big
part in Otani having as a big a may as
that he did, you know, I mean Otannie's usually been
like a big June guy. That came a little bit early.
I think I think maybe Kim had had a bit
to play with that. You know, Tani obviously had the
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fifteen home runs, which kind of kept the team afloat again,
you know, when when a lot of their pitching was
was down.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
All right, all that being said, when you saw Alex
Vesia finish it up last night or yesterday afternoon, I
should say, and the reaction he had on the mound.
We talked about this earlier, Dylan, I mean, first, I
love it. I love his emotion, I love his reaction.
And Jonah said he's never seen him that pumped. What
do you think?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Yeah? That was I mean, look, Dodger's padre.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
These games matter now, you know, And I think it
reminded me a bit actually of kind of the Yankees
series too, right, where like you know, I think then
both of those series, you know, the elements were in
place for them to even be swept, just because again
what they're, what their pitching situation was, and you know,
for them to kind of come out and win both
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of those series. You know, with again everything kind of
stacked against him. It just kind of shows that they
they you know, I know Roberts says this a lot.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
So maybe you know, kind of the effective of his
orn off over time. But these guys just.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Kind of know how to win, right And I think
Bessie again, the you know, that emotion that he brings,
that's kind of part of that that chemistry that they
got going on there. Uh So yeah, you know again,
I they you know, they could have again, they could
have you know, been swept here in San Diego, gone back.
You know, I guess they would have been what a
game or two back at that point.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Uh, this was big.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
They made a statement, you know, they're just you know,
you can they can have guys down, but that they're
gonna win it. You know, they're going to win these games.
And you know, again, I think for Vesia to kind of,
you know, close that out, I think it.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Was a big deal for the team.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
So you do consider it a rivalry because to me,
it's the best in baseball. ESPN can push Yankees Red
Sox down our throats for X amount of years all
they want Dodgers Padres is number one, and I don't
even think there's a close second, to be honest.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Yeah, for me, it is, you know now that said, right,
if we have a couple more series like this where
the Dodgers kind of keep dominating, because there is a
part of me that that looks at this Padres team
and think, you know, they're not as good as they
were last year or the year before. You know, obviously,
you know, they can't spend any more money now, so
like they're probably a franchise that's in decline right now,
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you know. And and I am looking at the Giants thinking,
you know what, like, given how good they're pitching is,
you know, they can't hit it all, but they can pitch.
I have a feeling that the Giants might be the
team that's kind of hanging around longer, you know. And
I think if we kind of go back over the
last like what decade and a half, you know, they
they've gone through, they've cycled through different rivalries, right it
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was the Diamondbacks, and then you know when the Giants.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Right then the Giants started.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Winning and it was the Giants, and then it became
the Diamondbacks again when they had those huge brawl, and
now it's kind of the Padres. I wouldn't be shocked,
you know, in the next couple of years here if
to cycle back to the Giants, uh, you know, and
you know, I do think that again that because of
where the Padres are right now, the franchise and the
confusion over their ownership group, this might be the end,
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you know, kind of the end of the rivalry. But yeah,
for sure, right now, as of right now, you know
where it feels like the Padres are a legitimate threat
to the Dodgers. For me, there's no question it is
the best rivalry in baseball.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
You actually think the Giants, when it's all said and
done this year, will be better than the Padres.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Yeah, I don't think either team's gonna throw. I think
the Dodgers are gonna run away with this, by the way, like,
I think they're gonna wind up winning the Division a
byt like ten games so like. But yeah, I think
of the two, I don't really like.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
There's something about this Padres team. I guess I'm not,
you know, because I think if you look at this
stretch right again, this this twenty six game stretch, there
nineteen games through it right now, the Dodgers are more
or less than a fight, right I think they're ten
to nine during that stretch so far, so more or
less like a five hundred team. If the Padres are
going to do anything, you know, make any kind of noise,
this was the time to do it, you know. And
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they just have not been able to make up ground
against the Dodgers. Like I just I just don't believe
in them, and I just feel that at some point
something's going to kind of go wrong. It's a it's
a very again kind of an emotional team. I could
see them just kind of having a bad months or something.
They kind of right, well, they'll just kind of fade.
And I think that the Giants pitching, you know, I
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think they I believe they have like the best bullpen
in baseball right now, or one of the better bullpens
in baseball.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
I just think that.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
That'll keep them afloat a little bit longer, right you know. Again,
it wouldn't be shocked if the Padres finished in front, obviously,
but I'm just that sold, I guess on this particular
Padre team.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Dylan, I know we got a little time before we
get to these discussions, but have you started to hear
any rumblings about potential deadline deals or players that could
be a target for the Dodgers.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Yeah, I mean I always have, right, they knock on
every door to check in on everything, you know. I
just think when you kind of look at it right now,
the feel that I'm getting is that, you know, despite
all the guys on the il right now from from
the starters, that they feel okay, you know what, none
of these are like that, you know, right, really really
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serious injuries. I think that they feel okay with the way,
with the way the pitching is coming up, coming together,
the starting pitching. Sorry, I do think I do foresee
like a move in the bullpen, right and it's going
to be somebody that's going to kind of you know,
I don't think it's going to be like a huge
name by any means, but I do think it's going
to be the type of guy that can feel like
a particular role that they'll need at that particular time.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You know.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Obviously, Copek since he's come back, has just kind of
been right. He's you know, it's been right.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
He's got in trouble finding the strike zone. So you know,
maybe somebody of like that ilk right where you know,
kind of like a hard thrower that they feel that
they can you know ride in the postseason. Uh, you know,
And obviously that will kind of depend on how COPEC
looks between now the deadline, but I could see them
on adding like an arm of like that ELK.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
All right, Dylan, Well, we appreciate you coming on. We
appreciate all of the information you shared. You're the man,
So thank.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
You, no, thank you for having me on. It's so
fun to talk with the guys though.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
All right, there goes our buddy, Dylan Hernandez at the
times uh wild Jonas he likes the Giants more than
the Padres.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah, a little surprising, a little surprised, but you know,
to his point, pitching carries I just and I also
was thinking about this, which who do you think has
a better ballpark?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
San Diego or San.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Fran Oh see, that's great for your liking because obviously
neither of Dodger Stadium. They don't have the you know,
the history and all that, but they're both unique and
they're both nice places.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
But which do you prefer?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Fred I think, boy, that's a good question. I'm trying
to remember. In San Francisco, you feel like you're right
on top of the action. Yeah, but pretty much the
same thing in San Diego. You feel like you're right
on top of the action.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
San Diego's kind of like wriggly. It just sort of
blends in with the neighborhood almost like you're walking around
and go, oh, there's a game going on, whereas San
Francisco does feel I don't know if it's bigger, but
it does feel like.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
It's its own it's its own place.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Well it's this. It's scarier to get there that, I'll
tell you. Yeah, you ever want to walk to the
park in San Francisco, you can, Oh, God, you better
you know what, you had a bad leg, I wouldn't
do that.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, well, why is that? Fred? What are you getting at?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Is there something on that chased down? You don't want
to do that? You do not want to do that.
It wouldn't be considered the best neighborhood to walk through.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I mean, listen.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
One of my favorite moments, and there's been a lot
of fun moments getting to fill in for you guys
here on the blowtorch Am five seventy, but one of
my favorite moments was David Vasse when I was filling
in on Petra some money calling in and literally was
calling in from San Francisco. Moments after, he was at
a pizza place and a guy walked in and robbed
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the tip jar off the counter and ran out, Like
Dave's on hold waiting to come on the air, and
some guy walks in and takes the tip jar and
runs out of the place right broad daylight.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Okay, all right, what do we call that? What's that?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Eyewitness news? He was there, he saw it, well done,
he could report it. Yeah, all right, uh oh, we
still have to give away tickets for the Dodgers and Padres.
The game's next week. We have to give him away
this hour. So please, if you want to win, don't
go anywhere. And if you care about you don't care
about winning the league right now, feel free, Okay your excuse,
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but if you want to win, you got to stay
right here. Fred Rogan Jonas Knock Sunday and five to
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baseball are so resistant to my idea.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I don't know why they should have more of a
say in what happens with them than I do. But
we need to talk about that.
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Speaker 1 (17:31):
App throw Back Thursday. Jonas ns in today for Rodney
Uh Jonas. I'm a huge fan of the automatic strike zone.
I like it. I think it makes sense. I think,
despite the fact games are played by humans. I've said
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this to Rodney a thousand times. If we're watching, we
cannot know more than the people there. It makes no sense.
If we can absolutely see that the ball is four
inches outside and the umpire calls it a strike, that
makes no sense. It doesn't compute. That's not how we
function as human beings. So I've said all along, let's
just do it. Go to the automated strike zone. Call today.
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Do you know that sixty three percent of players say
they are not fans of the automatic strike zone? Yeah,
sixty three percent.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I mean sixty three percent of them have more of
a heart than you do. That's not surprising.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
What is that supposed to mean? Why am I heartless
if I want the automated strike zone.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Some of what you want some robo ump to be
out there as opposed to some guy who's, you know,
trying to make a living.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Well, let me ask you.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Here's a percentage question for you. What percentage of balls
and strikes calls do you think umpires get right?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Right? Yes, I think they need to be in the
ninety percentile.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Okay, but how far out of the ninety percentile would
you say they are?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I'd say there are. I'd say there are a good
number in the low nineties, maybe a high eighties.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Okay, we're not talking about like a forty percent success rate. Well,
you know they're missing a few balls and strikes here there,
And I agree that they are totally egregious, like some
of these are. You're looking at it going how is that?
I can understand wanting to get it right, but why
do you want to get rid of the human element?
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Like these are human beings trying to provide for their
family and you want them ousted. You're probably the same
guy who was pickinging outside grocery stores saying no, no, no, no, no,
all self checkout, get rid of everybody. Let's make it
all self checkout. I've heard stories about you, ever, the
way you behaved like at the Ralphs off Canaan in
Agora Hills, like you petitioning outside that grocery store telling
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people to get out of there, boycott Ralphs until they
get rid of all human beings and have it just
be operated by robots. I mean this, So now you're
gonna do it with baseball.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I totally disagree, Fred.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Okay, two things first, I never did that at Ralph's
on Canaan. Oh ever, the one in Calabasa is a
different story.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Okay, fair enough, all right.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
But never Routs on Canaan.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
My mistake.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
You know, we're not taking jobs away from these guys.
They're still going to be standing there. You're not only
going to work with three umpires, you're still going to
have four. And you talk about the human element, That's
not how we think anymore. That's not what this is about.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
That's like telling a traffic cop to go work a crosswalk.
You just want them to stand there and just hold
stuff up and just like well here, like you're like
one of those guys on the sideline at a college
football game. Where he's holding up poster board with like
different play calls on it.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I mean, come on, man, he's still going to call
people out and safe. He's still going to determine if
the ball is fair or foul. He's still going to
be there if the system goes down. But what's interesting
to me is it's the players that are going on,
I don't know if we like this very much. By
the way, it has nothing to do with the accuracy.
That's not what they're concerned about. They're concerned about the
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fact that it fundamentally changes the game. Example, when Austin
Barnes was with the Dodgers, Austin Barnes was terrific at
framing pitches. He was really good. Yeah, all right, if
you have the automated strike zone, that becomes a lost art.
It doesn't matter nobody's framing anything. It is what it is,
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So it doesn't matter if you pull it up real
quick or pull it inside real quick, it doesn't matter.
The call is made and the players are saying, well,
that's going to cost guys jobs. That is going to
hurt the game. No, it's going to help the game,
but it's going to basically render anybody that's a great
pitch framer for that obsolete. You won't need it anymore.
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That's one of the major reasons they don't like it.
It's going to cost guys jobs. Technology changes the world
in every arena, and if you can use technology and
improve your product, you do. People go, I'm not going
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to mess with a AI. No, not me, I'm not
messing with that stuff. You gener Many businesses are now
operating many of their functions with AI.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, a lot of them.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Right, Well that's not for me. Well, then you're behind.
It's pretty simple because that's the way it's going now.
You adapt or you die. And if you have technology
to make your product better, why wouldn't you use that technology?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
And by the way, is it next year that they're
bringing in the challenge system for Boston strikes?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
To me? And you know how that works? Right?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Do you know how the challenge system works?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Get to challenge balls and strikes?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
But do you know how you do it? How you
stand there and go challenge?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Okay? So what do you want to do? Shoot up
a flare gun?
Speaker 4 (23:10):
All right?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
You don't do that. You do not yell challenge?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Okay? Like who cares?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
How they challenge it, Like, what do you want a
T shirt cannon into the crowd that says challenge, one
of those old guns that says bang when you fire
the trigger, like, what are you?
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Like?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Who cares? Just but that one that's not going to
take long.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
You tap your helmet, right, that's how you do it.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Okay, Well, how many guys are going to get confused?
Are you challenging or not by tapping your helmet?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I had an itch, yeah, challenge.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, I'm adjusting my helmet on my helmet. Oh I
thought you were challenging the pitch. No, no, like that.
That feels awkward. But I just to me, like robot
umps is a bit too far. The challenge system is
quick and easy. There's a strike zone. We all see
it on television. They look at it quickly and say,
all right, it was either a ball.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Or a strike. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
You're not eliminating jobs like you like you were demanding
me do.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I'm not eliminating anybody's job. The only job that's going
to be eliminated is the job of framing pitches. You
still have two catchers, but and you'll still have an umpire.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
And how many challenges are you getting next year?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I think you get three a game.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
I think two challenges per game?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Is that what you get?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, so you get two of those a game.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
You should challenge every pitch good And if you could
challenge every pitch, then why wouldn't you just have the
automated strike zone? Get it right? What I don't want
to do? The human element, the human element. The pitch
is a foot outside, you called it a strike. The
ball bounced, you called it a strike.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I know what's going on here. I know what's going
on here.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
You think I have alterior motive?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, I know what's going on here.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (24:53):
You wanted to be an umpire when you were younger? Yes, yeah,
And so because they didn't allow you into the umpire world,
you're now trying to take jobs away after the fact to.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Try and wield a little bit of power.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
It's like, it's like the guy who was the geek
in high school who ends up running a business and
one of the guys that bullied him like is working
at this business and they're like, oh, you're just gonna
fire him. He said, no, no, no, I'm just gonna
go ahead and downgrade his pay, and I'm gonna go
ahead and make him, you know, work out front, bottom
of the barrel type gig. Either that or you lose
your job completely. You want to shame these people just
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because they didn't allow you to be a part of
their world. And I think at some point somebody's got
to pull you aside and say, hey, Fred, you gotta
let it go. You've had a successful run. You're the
Desert Dean, You're one of the all time great broadcasters
in the history of Southern California. Why can't you just
let these guys call balls and strikes and ump a
game without you trying to take away anything that they
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still have.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Left to hold on to.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Well, thank you for that. First. It was not as
if I was shunned or locked out of the Major
League umpire development program. That didn't happen, nor was I
ever shunned by professional baseball. There was a point where
I decided to not pursue that to do something I
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thought far more meaningful, which was talk and get paid,
which got me to radio. But let me say this,
if I was an umpire a Major League empire right now,
I think I would welcome the automated strike zone. Welcome it.
Why Okay? So when they first went to the challenge
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system on the basis, you knew immediately if somebody challenged something,
you knew that umpire. This is just when they instituted
it was like, oh damn h you could tell. It
was like, you don't want to be wrong. You don't
want your call overturned. You don't want to look like
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you missed it. Now every play, everybody expects you to challenge.
That's why they give you time. The umpire puts his
hand up, he calls the guy out. He immediately puts
his hand up. You're gonna challenge that or not? What
are you gonna do? It's part of the game now,
just the way it works. Everybody wants to get it right.
(27:25):
I think the challenge system for balls and strikes is
gonna be very different. I think those guys are gonna
feel like they're eating it every time, because if you
challenge a pitch, I'm gonna bet you seventy five percent
will get overturned. Seventy five percent, I'll bet you that,
and those guys are gonna be embarrassed. It's very different
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than being on the basis if you're working the plate
and they challenge and they're right, and they challenge and
they're right, and they challenge and they're right. And one
more because you're saying the teams get two each. That's
not gonna sit well, that's that's that will embarrass you.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah, but what would be more embarrassing is who is
the umpire?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Who?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
God, it was Galarraga's perfect game. I forget his first name.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Guy was working first base.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah, like they get that guy was in tears afterwards
because he got that call wrong at the challenge system
or replay review been in in existence. Then they get
that call right, they overturn the call, and that guy's
got a perfect game and he's on in rarefied air
in the history of baseball. Like, I think there's a
lot of umpires to look at it and go, man,
I want to get it right too.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I'd also like to keep my job.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
But you're not going to lose your job. That's my point.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
You're just standing there. What's like, I'm just staying like,
you don't think there's gonna be their pay is going
to be impacted. Why are we going to give you
this salary? You don't even you don't even make call
balls and strikes anymore. Like, why don't you just blow
up a win puppet that you could find outside a
car dealership and put him back behind home plate? If
that's the case, Like, at what point, what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
There are still is a ball fouler? Fare? We that
a bok? How about that? There are still those calls
outer safe at the plate?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
That's boring? How many boks are there?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Well, there'll be more if they go to this because
I'll have to do something, so they'll start focusing on
the box.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yeah, they'll they'll start they'll start ejecting more people. Why
am I getting thrown out?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
You said something? Oh, say anything to you?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Like, so you're basically they're gonna have to find other
things to do while umping a game.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I think it'll make them more exciting. Anything could happen.
Isn't that what you want? Mister human elements?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Unpredictability, Yeah, that's what baseball is all about, all right.
You know, well, let's give those tickets away eight six, six,
nine eighty seven two five seventy. There are tickets for
the Dodgers and Padres next week. Jonas, what coller number
should win the tickets.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Why don't we get on them fast and get on
them early? Caller one.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
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Speaker 2 (30:11):
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Speaker 1 (30:17):
All right, who's our winner? I know we have a winner.
Speaker 7 (30:23):
We have one in Siam Valley Tego one.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Congrats, Big bad one. You've got those tickets. You're going
to see the Dodgers and Padres. And you know what,
we got another pair to give away, Jonas, another pair
of tickets. We'll do it between now and three.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Do you think do you think he was at the
Cronies event that I met you guys up at and
see me for a while back.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I don't know. I don't know if he was at
the at the Cronies. That's a good question. Yeah, good question.
Maybe maybe he was down there. But nonetheless, he's going
to the game and we wish them well. Okay, so
now listen. I don't know who wants this or doesn't,
but there's good news. It's available to you. Who wants
(31:08):
free weed? We're not giving that away. You know, we're
not giving Dodger.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
Say please, what the hell are you doing last night?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
All right? College six?
Speaker 4 (31:19):
All right?
Speaker 7 (31:19):
Are the phones lighting up more for free Dodger tickets
or free weed? Who knew?
Speaker 2 (31:24):
It's just like?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Is that like when Fred offered to buy around for
everybody at the remote and it Don.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
Martin almost closed lined him about the elbow off the
top rope?
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah, well man, what the hell are you doing? Listen?
It was a good idea on paper. It was a
good idea on paper. First twenty five people, I got
your drinks. Don't you worry about it? Because I thought
we're starting at noon, and you know how many people
show up for lunch. Well, apparently people thought that was
a pretty good idea.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
You want everybody to be plastered because PMS was coming
on from from the location after us. You just wanted
to be hammered it to sabotage their show.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I didn't want to sabotage their show. I just wanted
people there for ours, and I thought, of you know,
I bought drinks, they'd show.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
I didn't care about the collateral damage after that.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
It's right, brib them.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I didn't everybody. It's live and learn. So I made
a mistake. First I didn't know like fifty people would
show up, and then I didn't realize free drinks that
meant free so I could power back four or five
in an hour. And what really, gods was that guy
(32:30):
in the hat Kevin?
Speaker 7 (32:31):
I had one guy, that's right, who you bought like
six drinks by the time it was twelve fifteen.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Okay, what what?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
What are all right?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
But what are the drinks? Is he having just beers?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Is he doing whatever you want?
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (32:42):
Fred did not put caps on anything. Whatever, whatever you order.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, I thought this is a very nice gesture. This
guy got so tanked that he started screaming. We were
well he started screaming. Period, that was that was distracting,
But he started screaming that we would buy him drinks
for the entire afternoon. And by twelve thirty he really
(33:09):
was I mean, he was gone, but he kept complaining.
And that's when Don got there, and Don said, there
was somebody here that claims you said you would buy
him drinks all afternoon and I never said that. And
that's when he announced this is over done. Whatever you
said doesn't exist anymore. It's over. We're not doing it anymore.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Ok So, I'm sorry to because I'm trying to piece
this all together. So this was twelve thirty when he
was noticeably annihilated.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah, Kevin, that's not unfair, is it not at all?
Speaker 4 (33:39):
No?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
And the show started when noon. So this guy was drinking,
was ripping a drink every five minutes. He was on
a drink every five clip and thirty he.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
Was I'm pretty sure every drink was a double.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Okay. By twelve thirty, the guy already ruined it for
everybody else.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Right, Well, no good deed goes unpunished. See try something nice,
And that's what happened.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
That's literally like one of the worst ideas I've ever
heard in my life.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
John said, we can get sued. I never thought of that.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Like, I gotta understand, I'll buy around, but you just
bought drinks for everybody, okay.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
And the better part of it was this. He comes
up and he says, knock it off. Stop. He just
walked right up in a break. We come out of
the break, Rodney doesn't hear him and goes free drinks
for everybody.
Speaker 7 (34:32):
That's right, I forgot about that. Rodney didn't hear the message.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
So Rodney comes out of the break and just shouts that,
and Don gave me the dirtiest look. I didn't tell
him to say that. What are you mad of mean?
Speaker 5 (34:52):
For?
Speaker 1 (34:54):
All right, anyway, we're not giving away free weed. But
here's the deal.
Speaker 8 (34:57):
Okay, here's the deal. Way to clarify, No, I want
to point that out. I mean people lined up outside
like a dispensary. No, we're not doing it, but there
is a dispensary in Michigan, Okay, that will give you
free weed if and I think it's for a long time.
(35:20):
I mean, they're gonna hook you up if you have
this photographic evidence a bigfoot.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Now we're talking. Now we're talking. Now you've done something.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
If you can provide photographic evidence a bigfoot, this dispensary
will give you the free weed. And they're not falling around.
They'll do it. That's all you gotta do.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
See, this is where you're gonna really you're going to
decipher who are the real potheads and who are the fakes?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
The phone, how bad do you.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Want this exactly?
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Because there's probably a a couple of pot junkies that
are looking at this and they're getting together, going, hey, man, let's.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Just go to the woods. Yeah, we can do this.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Sure, and they hang out and listen, they'll probably never
make it out. Something terrible is gonna happen to them,
much like your terrible idea and offering free drinks for anybody,
and you had a guy already drunk a half hour
into the show, Like, I mean, this is gonna end
up poorly for somebody, but at least, you know, the
commitment for the weed is such that they're willing to
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go find something that doesn't exist.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
To try and get free weed.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
But here's the thing. If you are someone in search
of the free weed, right, the Mary.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Jane, Yeah, the hippie lettuce.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
The hippi lettuce. If you're that person, the green wolf, right,
you might try to invent something because you probably already
have some anyway, so you're not even there.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Oh yeah, I listen, I'm with you if if I'm
that into this and I'm such a pothead, I'm teaching
my dog to walk up right, Like, hey, buddy, all
those chew toys you got, do me a solid walk
on your back legs for at least ninety seconds. We'll
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grow your hair out and then if you can't give
out a yelp, but just give me ninety seconds walking
upright and don't stumble into the fire we made and
you and I are going to be smoking weed together
for the rest of our eternity.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
That could happen. They could try to build some sort
of bigfoot and put it in the woods. Yeah, where
you kind of took a picture of it sideways from
a tree, so you know there's something there. Yeah, but
you can't really tell. Maybe have one of your friends
dress up like my mother did. Is uncle Yavi Pappy?
(37:54):
Maybe do that? I'm sorry who uncle Yavi Pappy?
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Is that the name of the dispensary?
Speaker 1 (38:02):
No, that was what I told. I told kids in
elementary school I had an uncle Yavi Pappy that lived
in the mountains, feeling you exactly, and uh, they said,
we want to see your uncle Yava Pappy and they
started betting me I didn't.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Have one, and you pulled your pants down.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Okay, that wasn't the case. So I went home and
I said, oh God, I'm in trouble here. These kids
had bet me all this money. They're like quarters and stuff,
not like today, you know, like still to me a
quarter's a lot of money. I was probably in fourth grade.
I said, I told all these kids I have uncle
Yavi Pappy, and they bet me all this money. My
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mother said that was pretty stupid. I said, dah it was.
I said, Uncle Yava Pappy will be at school tomorrow.
Said okay, we're sitting there. I look out the window.
My mother dressed up as like this thing, Oh Jesus,
and walked by the window. I went, see, there's my
uncle Yavi Pappy right there. I'm keeping all the money.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
And this wasn't This was in Michigan as well, too, right, Yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Maybe you're onto something. Maybe that's the move.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
But they you can't find like some stoner fourth string
offensive lineman for Michigan State and be like, hey man,
can you not shave and just like play the part
and you can leave whatever football dream you've still got
and let's just go smoke weed for the rest of
our lives. You're support, you're six', eight you're not, Playing
(39:31):
you're not gonna, play and you're not going, anywhere and
you don't even like being there. Anyways dress, up grow
your hair, out pretend to be, bigfoot and you AND
i are gonna have hippie lettuce for the NEXT x
amount of.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Years but here's the concern. Here there is a concern,
here AND i think you're you're dismissing it just because
you're a big guy that grows your hair. Out, yeah
don't you need hair all over your. Body but you
can't be a guy with long hair and a know
A Michigan state. Jersey you got to look like some
(40:03):
sort of.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Creature oh, listen you've got.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
TO i, mean there's a certain criteria that has to be.
Met you, know it's, like not everybody can play every
role in a, movie even though you might find a better,
actor or you need somebody who's got to look the.
Part you do need somebody who's gonna look the. Part
so it's going to take a little bit of effort,
here which you, KNOW i don't know how many of
those pothead who are interested in this are willing to put.
Out but, yeah it's gonna take a little. Effort but
it's not, undoable is What i'm. SAYING i, mean you
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did it with your your, uncle you. Know, yeah a
PAPPY yachti pappy.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Or whatever it.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Is, no it's NOT yachti pappy it was you have the.
Pappy by the, Way one man indicated that a, big
heavy animal hit the ground and crouched and started moving
towards him through the. Bush the animal got away without
a single piece of evidence being. Recovered so there is
somebody that thought they Saw. Bigfoot, yeah and, uh here's the.
(40:55):
THING i don't know If bigfoot will be In michigan.
Speaker 6 (40:59):
Or our.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Leader i'm not. Sure so everybody that wants this should,
search take the picture and go To.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Michigan oh so this is not just A michigan. Event
this isn't.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
It if you can Find, bigfoot bring us a picture
and you get the. Weed and what the stor's model,
is bring photo proof Of bigfoot for a free pre.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Roll look, THERE i mean, listen never underestimate a loser
with a. Purpose SO i think this IS i think
this is very. Doable and if you are one of
those people out, there and maybe you're listening to The
iHeartRadio app right now and you just listen To Fred
wax poetically About, bigfoot, uh you, know and you've you,
(41:48):
know you're you're you're doing what you're doing with your funny.
Stuff this is this is open for business and a
possibility for you.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Too as to, continue we will give another pair of
tickets for The dodgers And padres coming up this, hour not,
now don't call it's too. Soon don't do. It if
you call, now your, band we will write your number
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down and ban you because you have to. Listen so
do not call. Now we will do that next, hour
and let's get back into The dodgers when we come.
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