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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's go to work, Fred Rugan, Rodney Pete on a
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and three. Nice. Nice last night last night the most
watched regular season baseball game on MLB Network history, the
most watched on MLB Network history. Padres and the Dodgers
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and Shoe Otani. So we were right. He only went
one inning. Probably wanted to go more. What he threw
twenty five pitches, I believe, yeah, something like that. Uh
didn't get any help from the umpire early should have
punched somebody out that turns into a hit. His velocity.
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It was tatis. I believe it was right.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Fatis went around and they didn't call it when he
checked his swing.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
But oh, machado, Machado. Rodney with a machada.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Okay, yeah, clearly went around and they didn't give it
to him.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
But overall, though, Fred, what did you think, Well, the
guy's dorown ninety eight miles an hour, one hundred. He
had one hundred a couple of times. Think about that.
He hadn't pitched in a year and a half. Show. Hey,
go out there, just stretch out, feel good, don't push it.
Let's just get the mechanics in the rhythm down. No problem,
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I'll just rifle the ball one hundred miles an hour.
Just think about that. If you really think about what
happened last night, was it an outstanding, sparkling first inning. No, no,
it wasn't. I mean, threw a lot of pitches, only
gave up a run, got out of it cheaply enough,
Asvin would have said. But if you really think about
what happened last night, this guy hasn't pitched in almost
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two years. He's faced no one in a game. They
didn't send him anywhere to get back into shape. He's
throwing simulated games before games, and then they just threw
him in and said, go, I have to tell you,
if that is a precursor to what is to come,
everybody better watch out because he is throwing the ball
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one hundred miles an hour, ninety eight miles an hour. Now,
he wasn't incredibly crisp and sharp, or was he for
a guy that hadn't pitched in two years. I thought
it was remarkable Rodney. Yesterday we said, no matter what
happened to him, he couldn't lose. And then on top
of it, okay, so they take him out, they're down
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one nothing, he ties the game. Yeah, okay, I got
that one back for you boys. Now let's go get him.
I thought it was a great outing. What'd you think? Yeah, now,
I thought it was great.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I think it accomplished what they wanted to accomplish, and
what he wanted to accomplish was get into live game action.
Didn't matter how it went, you know, as you mentioned,
it wasn't you know, as Chris, probably as he would
have liked. He threw an assortment of pitches, you know,
topping out at one hundred miles an hour. I thought
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was impressive, but you can you can probably chalk that
up a little bit to adrenaline, you know, him being
pumped up going into that game, but that's his norm.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Though. He's a ninety eight ninety nine mile an hour guy.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
And sometimes he when he cuts it loose, he can
go triple digits. But I thought, you know, for him
not pitching in a year and a half, it looked great.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
And you're right, you're right.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
And then now now the Dodgers, they have to keep
trotting him out there, getting them, you know, one inning
and get him. Now he threw twenty five pitches, maybe
he throws forty pitches and then six. I mean, he's
got to keep trotting him out there because this guy,
come October, is a tremendous weapon, a tremendous weapon. And
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you're right, you know, the kind of competitor that he
is is if he gives up a run, you know,
when he comes up to the plate and his mindset is,
I got to get that back. Well, I got to
help myself out. If I'm pitching, right, I'm gonna pick
myself up. I'm not gonna I'm pissed off that I
gave up that hit and I gave up that run,
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so now I'm gonna hit it out. That's the kind
of mentality he has, and it's a it's incredible to
watch how.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
How good he is on the mound.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
He's just as good on the mound as he is
at the plate, and it's it's pretty incredible.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah. And the thing about when we watch him, uh,
he seems pretty well, what's up? The good happens? He smiles,
but let's face it, you know what, he walks up
to the plate. He's got a very pleasant demeanor. I
wouldn't him gregarious at any moment. But he smiles and
he goops around, looks like he's having a good time.
You never see him really frown or he's disappointed. He's
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very reserved in how he approaches things, except apparently when
he pitches, because then we're going to see a little
something else, another side of sho heeo tani. And when
the machado check swing no call occurred, you could see
on his face that that wasn't good. You could tell
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so for everything that you see when he hits, and
he doesn't seem to be phased by anything, and he
internalizes everything. What he didn't get that call. You could
see it he wasn't pleased. I like that. I like
that competitor. I like that it comes out there. You know,
if you're going to pitch and Rodney, you can speak
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to this better than anybody. A part of the game
is intimidation. You think you can beat me, You think, okay,
all right, because it's you and me right now, you
think you can get me. And I think if a
pitcher shows any type of displeasure or anger, I don't
think that's a bad thing. I think it's a good thing.
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I think it's everybody unnoticed. It's a great thing to
show emotioned and.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And you know, we we sometimes joke and talk about
Alex Bessie out there, but it is it's an emotional situation.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
It's you know.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
And that's the unique thing about baseball is that although
it's a team game, there are one on one matchups
and it is personal. When you step in a box,
it's one on one with the pitcher. And that's the
thing I always loved about baseball because it was a
team game, but also it was that you against me mentality,
and same thing with the pitcher.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It's you versus the hitter.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And he gets both both of those worlds when he's
when he's pitching.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
But you're right, I think there's more.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
There's a lot more animation from him when he's on
the map than it is when he's at the plate.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
You know, he does.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
He comes up and he thanks thanks the umpire and
says a low to the catcher and says a load
to the opposing manager, and they all know he's gonna
do that, and he's a good guy. He's absolute assassin
though when he steps in the box and he's trying
to kill you. But he just doesn't show it outwardly
as much as he shows it on the mound as
we saw last night, although they're a moment where he
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shows it in the box too, you know, like when
he hit that home run against the Padres last year
in his first playoff game, or when he, you know,
Mack Guriel doing this thing in Arizona. You'll see it
come out, but oftentimes it comes out when he's on
the hill. And even when they called Tattis safe at home,
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you know, he was animated about that because he thought
he was out and he did the pump in the
fist and wanted the Dodgers to challenge, and.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
You know Tattoos was actually safe.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
But yeah, there's a lot more animation, I think to
him on the mound, and I don't know if it's
just you know, he hadn't been there in a long time.
Fred that he was excited about being back on the hill,
and that's how he you know all or that's how
he always is when he's pitching, but certainly last night
he was very animated.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Well, you know what, who could be Rodney. When he's pitching,
he is controlling the game. It's him, it's on him,
it's about him. When he's hitting, he's one of nine.
Sure he wants to contribute, and God knows he does,
but when he is pitching, it is about him. He
is in control. And maybe what that shows us is
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he holds himself to a very very high level. He
expects great things of himself, and he's not gonna put
up with it if he disappoints himself or if someone
disappoints him while he's pitching. And I think that's a
good thing. It's funny if you saw the beginning of
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the game, you would have thought that a great historical
figure had risen and was standing at Dodger Stadium when
he started to pitch. Everybody was on their feet for
the first pitch of the game. I'm not talking about
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ninth inning closers in let's shut them down and get
out of here. Everybody was on their feet with their
phone pointed at the mound so they could record that
moment because they did see the first time he pitched
for the Dodgers, albeit only an inning, but they were there.
They can say they were there. And what's fascinating about
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it is because if you play for the Dodgers, everything
is so much bigger, so much larger. The guy pitched
for the Angels, Did we forget that? And when he
pitched for the Angels he was pretty good? Did we
forget that? Yet for the Dodgers, everybody was on their
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feet capturing this moment for posterity, where just a few
years ago he pitched far more than one ending a
game and was good. But this is the one that
counted Rodney. This moment on this team was the moment
that everyone will remember.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, and I think you know, look, if he pitched
last year, it wouldn't have been that this year. It
wouldn't have been the excitement of him coming out, but
the anticipation of when he's gonna pitch and leading up.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
And leaning up to it.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
You know, when everybody thought it was after the All
Star break and then all of a sudden, we found out,
you know, a few days ago, he's gonna go on Monday,
and they broke that.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
News to everybody, and everybody get ready for this.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And you know which is amazing and short notice that
it became the highest rated MLB TV game ever because
they didn't have a month lead in to tell everybody
watch on Monday. It was just from I think Friday
or Saturday when they announced it.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
He but that's what people.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Were anticipating, not just you know, him hitting fifty home
runs like he did a year ago. The beauty and
the uniqueness of Otani was him pitching and hitting in
the same game. And that's what everybody was waiting for.
That's what people believe. That's why you paid him seven
hundred and x y million dollars and he gave it
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to us last night, just a little glimpse of of
doing both of those things, which is remarkable at the
high level that he does it.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
It was special, it really was. And the Dodgers won
the game, and that was another thing. He gave up
the run, he got the run back then they went
on to win. And if I'm the Padres, I'm starting
to think to myself. And it's very early. I know,
I know, but I'm starting to think to myself, Oh,
this ain't good. They got us in San Diego, now
they got us here in the first one with pitching,
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and the Dodgers look much better. They just do. Now
that can all change, you know, they're ebbs and flows,
but right now the Dodgers seem far better than the
Padres when you watch them. Yeah, I think they're looking
at it more so.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
You know, Otani's gonna be a tany if you face him,
you know, went down the stretch.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
You're gonna face him once in a series.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
But I think they look at it and go We
had a chance to gain a lot of ground, or
at least take the lead in the West over these
last couple of months because the Dodgers were decimated by
injuries and we had opportunities to really take a stranglehold
on the West and we didn't do that. Now they're
getting healthy again and guys are starting to get into
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a groove. And when you got guys down the line
up like Pahz that are gonna beat you, then that's
when it gets scary, because you know about Otani, Freddie
and Mookie and Will Smith. But now you've got Pahz
to wordorry about, you got Edmund to worry about, you
got all these guys to worry about other than those
top three guys. Then it becomes really scary for the
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other teams. And I think that's what's going through their
minds now. It's like we missed a golden opportunity to
really get a stranglehold on the West and we didn't
do it.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
H Andy pa Has was upset last night Dylan Sees
hit him. Pi Has thought he was thrown at him.
I believe it was Manny Machado who that said, if
we're gonna throw on anybody, why would it be him?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, and then he tried to give him a backhand
compliment he's having a great year though, he's having a
great year, and uh, you know, I think you will
continue to have a great year. But yeah, he started
off with me doing superstars on that team. Why are
we throwing at him?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Uh? Yeah, So that might have been a little gamesmanship.
I'm not sure Dyllen Cesar was thrown at Andy Piez,
but nonetheless, at least pi Haz had a chance to
say that it reminded me of last year during the playoffs,
and there are times I think about this. Rod remember
the game at Dodger Stadium, and I think it was
Machado or somebody threw the ball in between Nave Roberts. Yeah,
(14:08):
it was Dave Roberts. And afterwards Dave said, you know what,
it was unnerving. It was unnerving. And then you find
out later, well, it wasn't really that close to Dave Roberts,
but it was kind of gamesmanship on his part.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
No, it was close, don't get me wrong. It wasn't
just a toss either. It was he fired it to
the dugout and it one hopped the fence in front
of him. Who knows how tricky of a hop it
could have took. But yeah, that was that was That
was odd called a gamesmanship or whatever that was. That
was bs to me. You don't do that to the
opposing manager.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
But when he used the word unnerving, sometimes I swear
I think about it and I just laughed, What a
great word to use, What a great word. It was
just unnerving. So the PA has comment, you know, he's
trying to throw at me. It's kind of like that
just kind of getting in her heads a little bit,
just to mess with them a little bit. Put him
on the defensive, put them on the defensive, the Padres
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putting them on the put put the Pods on the defensive,
or put pods putting the Dodgies on there. No, No,
we think he's thrown at him, puts the Padres on defensive. Well, first,
did he really throw at him? But on the other hand,
what says, But I don't think he did. I don't
think someone either. So Pi Haz says that they have
to answer that question, like, what do you mean we
wouldn't do that? We wouldn't do that last year when
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the ball bounced. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I don't know if Andy Pie has said that much
thought into reacting that way, be.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Honest with you, Yeah, but I think the Padres then
react to that, and I think that's good. They play defense. Now,
were you throwing at guys? Are you throwing at guys? Really? No,
we didn't know, of course we didn't. Oh did you
really rifle that ball right at Dave Roberts. It was unnerving.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
No, I'm saying that wasn't. That wasn't PI has thought
in that moment it wasn't. He wasn't saying Oh, this
is a moment to get in their skin or get
in their heads. I'm gonna just I'm gonna say that
they threw at me.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
No, well, I agree. I don't think he was intentionally
doing that, but I think that's the result, you know,
and I think, you know, I don't know if it
gets into Padres head that moment, it's just other than Bushley,
you know, the guy I mean thrown at him.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
That's like Maddy said, It's like, I'm sure they all
think that we're gonna throw somebody. We're gonna throw it,
Freddy a Mookie. Oh time, We're not throwing at you.
What does this guy think he is?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Right? So, you know, I don't.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I think it's just it is what it is, and
it blows over. It's not anybody's head.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Well, what it is now is the Dodgers, despite all
of their injuries, are playing really well against good teams.
Ebbs and flows, don't get too up, don't get you down.
But right now you can get up a little bit.
It's okay because the Dodgers are playing well against their
division foes. Every division game counts two game two tonight
against the Padres. So far, it's been a really good
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stretch for this is the big one. This is the
big one. This is the one. Well, it's big for
the Padres. This is when the Padre's got.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
To get because if they lose in a four game set,
they lose two to the Dodgers, then the last two
are must wins for them, right, So at least if
they win this one, then they can split the last
two and that the pressure is not as much on them.
But they go down and lose the first two games
to the Dodgers after losing to them, you know what,
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a week and a half ago in a series, then
it becomes a real pressure back situation for them, and
then they do start to wonder, can we can we
ever beat these guys?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Bullpen game for the Dodgers today, according to David Bassey,
and tomorrow Emmin Shehan will start. He's back. Good to
have him back.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, yeah, it's good to have him back. Good to
get some guys coming back now, except we're not gonna
get it.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Sazaki back, Fred, No, it looks like he's done for
the year. I know that's really sad and frustrated. Yeah,
twenty three years old. But he'll have to I mean, look,
there when he was when you watched him and he
was effective, you got it. There's no questions. Young answer
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learned to pitch. He probably pitched too much. He didn't
want to come out because he thought he was hurting
the team. But when you really watched him, we saw
him in Japan, we saw his first game in Japan,
then you saw him over here. That stuff is electric.
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
He's got all the talent in the world, and he's
got the body built for it, tall bringing it over
one hundred miles an hour. Uh, you know, he's got
the different pitches. Yeah, And I think yeah, And I
think he'll learn a lesson from that that when you
start to feel something as a pitcher, you can't play
around with it. If it's the slightest little twins or
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any kind of feeling, you got to let people know
because it could have been one of those things that
if he just rested and didn't push it, that he's
not out for the season. They fixed or they let
him rest and get it better. But he pushed through
it thinking he had to help the team, like you said,
and now everybody's.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Hurting from it.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
So it's a young thing, and I think he'll learn
from that going forward. But you're right, they're going to
miss him because he is as The more he pitches,
which he needs, the more experienced he is a tremendous
weapon for the Dodgers going forward.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, Gel Tunny in the dugout afterwards, checking the iPad,
he was probably analyzing every pitch He's through, every pitch,
he was studying that thing, looking intently at it. I'll
bet you in his perfect world, he'd be pitching today.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Oh yeah, you know, and through twenty five pitches. So
I'm sure he feels like, hey, I can go some more,
or he can't wait till the next one. I bet
he goes to them next time. Hey I want to
go three innings next time, or I want to go
sixty pitches. You know, I guarantee he goes to the
I just I couldn't get going just throwing that one inning.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I need more.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I don't get loose until the third inning, so you
gotta let me go. I'm ready. Looks like he went
to him told him he was ready to pitch in
a real game. I bet he went to him and said, Hey,
I felt good out there. I gotta go again. When's
my next out and next down, and you're not gonna
put the handcuffs on me.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
You're gonna let me go a little bit. I could
see that happening. Yeah, they're gonna have to protect him
from himself, exactly, they are because it was fun last night.
He had fun last night. If you were there, you
were lucky. You know. That's the thing. You never know
what's gonna happen in any game. One night you might
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be there, show hal Tony pitches. Another night you might
be there. You see Key k Hernandez in the sixth
You don't know, you know who's pitching? Who's pitching? Performance?
Will you remember more? Show hal Tony or keyk hernanders
which one? You don't know what you're gonna see. Anything
could happen. We need Mickey Rohas out there on the
hill again. You just don't know. Oh no, it's all right.
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Jose Mota who works for the Dodgers, but saw show
hey pitch for the Angels. We'll join us at one o'clock.
David Vassay will be on the program at two o'clock.
Don't forget we're giving away soccer tickets. We have three
pairs of tickets to give away. This week and we'll
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Speaker 4 (21:55):
Oh yes, let's go. It's a beautiful Tuesday. Rodney, Pete
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Speaker 1 (22:03):
Okay. We talk about this all the time, and it
has to do with the way you consume your information.
You listening right now for Temple. If you listen to
the show, you are consuming information and in our world
today we call it content. You are consuming content and
you consume it differently than you used to because many
years ago there were only a few places where you
(22:24):
could get it. Now you can get it anytime you want,
in any form you want. We're pleased and thrilled and
thankful that you share some of your time with us
and get content here. But television has changed the business.
I worked in has changed. I say all the time
to people, as I've created a new model for the
(22:46):
presentation of local news. It's not the business I grew
up in anymore. And if you're at a certain age,
you watched when I was on Channel four long ago,
it's not that way anymore. It doesn't exist. The relevance
of what we do in that form is diminished because
people consume their content differently. For example, you probably have
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something to do with AI on a weekly basis, if
not daily, That didn't exist many years ago. So everything changes.
And the one thing that has changed, and at first
people were skeptical Rodney didn't think it would be a
real deal streaming. Streaming has changed the game. Years ago,
if you worked in the business, you realized something was
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going to give and you need to get into this new,
weird world of streaming. By the way, before that, you
wanted to get into cable, so there was broadcast. It
went to cable. Not cable is dying because people don't
need it anymore or as much. You do in LA
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if you want to watch the Lakers or the Dodgers, Kings, Angels, Ducks,
the local teams, but now it's on streaming and It's funny.
I knew Rodney that younger people did not watch what
we would call linear television anymore. So what would that
(24:12):
be if you're not acquainted with the term. The NBA
Finals will be on ABC. ABC is linear television. NBC
is linear television, CBEs. That means what everybody can get
it broadcast television free, broadcast TV free, don't have to
pay for it, don't have to pay your cable provider.
(24:33):
You get rabbit ears, you can get it. Correct, that's
exactly right. Of course, there are people that would never
know what rabbit ears are listening right now, but yes,
you get it for free. That is linear television. Okay,
there are going to continue to be sporting events on
linear television, and quite frankly, that's going to happen because
(24:53):
that's really the only way it's going to survive long
term live sports works. But even with nbcn Monday Night Football,
well you can watch it on Channel four or you
can watch it on Peacock. If you think about it,
every one of the networks has a streaming service attached
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to it. Disney has Hulu and Disney Plus right, NBC
has Peacock, CBSS Paramount Plus everybody's got them because that's
where the audience is going. And what I found really fascinating,
and I read this this morning. I know, let's say,
people twenty five and younger, they don't even know what
network TV is, correct, They have no clue none. And
(25:38):
actually even with ABC and CBS Channel two, channel four,
channel seven, five eleven in LA, you can watch it
on YouTube TV. Oh yeah, oh yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
When we moved we recently moved to four or five
years ago, whatever it was, even our kids, you know,
we were setting up the house and on all those things.
It's like, okay, we're gonna set up you need to
you need a you want the cable box in your room.
It's like, we never watched that. We just we stream everything.
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We watch either Netflix or YouTube or whatever. But we
don't watch local TV or we don't watch traditional TV.
So they didn't We never even set it up, and
majority of the house. But I'm old school, so I
still want it, Like you said, you still want to
get the Dodgers and the Lakers and the Clippers and
all those games. But for the most part, the kids,
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the younger generation, as you mentioned, they don't even know
what it is. They don't care because they can stream everything.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Now. You know, it's not called a television anymore, it's
called a monitor. Monitor. Yeah right. You don't go out
and buy a new TV. You go on by a monitor,
just what size, and they're all equipped to handle all
of those. They've already got it loaded in on all
the new TVs, so you don't even have to do
anything other than put it in your password and all
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of a sudden, all the things come up exactly. So
I knew people younger than twenty five were streaming. Here's
what I found interesting, And I'm sure there are people
of this generation listening to us now or close. You know,
people over sixty five now stream more than they watch
broadcast TV. And I never thought that would have been
(27:21):
possible because people are set in their ways. Right, the
older you get, the more set in your ways you are.
And this is how we've always done it, And get
off my lawn. We are finding more people now sixty
five are over streaming for the streaming industry. That's a
very good thing. Why do you think that is right?
(27:42):
I think what it is is you're going to have
to pay for something, and are you going to pay
for cable and really get a lot of channels you
don't want, or are you going to stream? And let's
take get Netflix. Okay, you're set. They have new shows,
or Apple TV or Prime Video they have cool shows too.
(28:06):
The way everything or Hulu, the way everything happens is
so different now. And when I saw that, the old
the old because the older generation you can always count
on them for what your your local news, right, that's
what they wanted, give me my local news. I want
to see Fred Rogan at eleven, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
And but you're saying that that has changed now that
they don't necessarily care about having their local channels anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
True. Now, to be fair, as you pointed out, you
can still use rabbit ears and get them. Or if
you have YouTube TV, for example, then you get all
of your local channels. That's not a question. It's just
like cable. But if you got YouTube TV and Netflix,
your seton the thing is that's why all of these
networks are putting their big ticket events streaming as well
(28:57):
as broadcast, because eventual it's all going to be streaming.
So you'll want to buy Peacock if you want the
Olympics and you want the NBA and you want the
NFL and the Kentucky Derby. That's where you'll see them eventually,
not tomorrow, within ten years.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Why do you think, why did it go that direction
so fast? Is it because of internet, wireless internet and
all of those things that are happening that people can
watch it anywhere. You don't have to be in a
specific location to watch the Kentucky Derby or watch the
Super Bowl. You could be on a plane and watch it,
or you can be anywhere in your car and you
(29:40):
can watch any show or any even live broadcast now
from your phone or your tablet. Is it because the
access to anywhere is why streaming just just as overwhelmed
cable and linear TV this quickly.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
That's a big part of it. Technology. Absolutely, here's the
other part. Everybody listening right now, your life is very
different than it was ten years ago. I don't care
where you were or what you did, your life is
very different than it was ten years ago. And the
reason being when you can access through technology, entertainment or
information and the palm of your hand whenever you wanted,
(30:22):
the whole game changed. Back in the day, a show
called Seinfeld was on NBC or Friends. Shows like that
er Desperate Housewives on ABC, and that would be what
we called appointment television. You would sit and you would wait,
and you'd watch the clock and the show would come on,
and everybody would be glued to their TV sets because
(30:45):
those were the top shows in the country at that time.
You couldn't see them again, You couldn't see them when
you wanted to see them. You had to see them then.
In today's world, if you miss it eight o'clock Eastern
on Sea at nine o'clock Eastern on CBS, you can
stream it on their streaming service. You're not beholden to
(31:09):
anything any longer. You're not beholden to waiting for the
news at five o'clock. You don't have to. You can
get it whenever you want in your hand. You can
watch a TV show that you missed, that you needed
to see, or you really wanted to see. You can
watch it in the palm of your hand. And when
that happens, the rules change. So as that became technology
(31:32):
allowed us to advance into that arena. I don't have
to sit here and wait for anything. The only thing
you'll watch is live stuff and mostly sports, mostly sports,
because there is a build up to it, people talk
about it, people could be betting on it. It's usually
(31:52):
a part of pop culture and you want to be
in the know at that moment. And also you don't
know the outcome. It's like a reality show, right right.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
The unknown is what people are drawn to still, right,
and that's why live sports are still king. And in
terms of you know, the networks, the broadcast network that
that also stream and simulcast it, is there a lot
more money into it for them to do that? You know,
(32:24):
like now you will see a lot of games, right
they're on ABC, but yet they're on YouTube as well
at the same time, or they're on Amazon, you know,
and they're on multiple multiple channels, whether it be broadcast,
linear TV and a streaming source at the same time.
Is there is that the revenue for the say like
(32:47):
the NFL, or is that revenue for say ABC that
has Monday night football.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
It's for ABC, AB or Disney for example. Yeah, gets
to capitalize on that. So you're saying, why do they
do that? Why would you run it on Channel seven
and on Espnplus or whatever their streaming site is. Why
would they do that? Here's why in the perfect world,
(33:13):
it wouldn't run on Channel seven anymore. But you see,
the only way Channel seven, Channel four, Channel two, Channel
eleven they're going to survive is with sports. You take
the sports off a broadcast platform. Who's watching it? Nobody,
(33:34):
and they still make money on that platform. NBC owns
a network. Channel four in Los Angeles is an owned station.
WNBC in New York is owned. There's like ten twelve
owned stations, but the other stations around the country are affiliates.
Affiliates carrying network programming produced by NBC and pay NBC
(33:57):
for the right to carry it. So for they're still
making money on the linear platform, not as much so
anything they have that you see on Channel four that
also runs on peacock. You have to understand. And people
were adverse to this a couple of years ago, and
(34:19):
they missed the boat. It's all going to go over there.
One day. It will all be there. You will not
watch TV like you have. It will all be A
question is for ABC, who has the rights to Monday
night football, why would they want to drive the traffic
to ESPN Plus or a streaming service and not drive
(34:39):
everybody to Channel seven. They have no choice. They have
no choice. They're gonna all go over there eventually anyway.
It doesn't matter because it's an audience.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
If you do that anyway, you'd be shortsighting yourself if
you don't allow it to be streamed.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah, well, and here's the thing. We're going to keep
it on Channel seven, but we're also gonna run it.
We're gonna stream it because the younger people are gonna
see it streaming. They're never gonna see it on channel
And you want the eyeball, the eyeballs is gonna is
what you're after. And yeah, in the eyeballs if we
stream it. But the younger eyeballs aren't even watching regular television.
They are watching streaming. So if you just said we're
(35:18):
gonna put this event on channel two, some people wouldn't
even know what channel two means. Right, What does that mean?
Channel two? I have no idea. I've never heard of
that crazy wacky thing. They are used to streaming. So
what you do is you keep it on the linear platform,
the broadcast platform, the platform we all grew up watching,
(35:41):
but also put it over here in streaming because that's
where everybody's going.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
I will say, by the way, they're moving away from
even doing that. The NFL HA said playoff games last year,
that was two years ago, extreme exclusively on Peacock. Yeah,
last year on Netflix. This year they'll have obviously Christmas
games and Amazon a big one Rodney's. So part of
the NBA's deal with Amazon and ABC, ESPN and Peacock,
(36:04):
Amazon is going to have i think six of eleven
NBA conference finals exclusively. So if you want to watch
the Western or Eastern Conference finals for six of the
eleven years of the contract, it's gonna be exclusively on Amazon.
So if you have only over the air TV or
a cable subscription and not Amazon Prime, you won't even
be able to watch those. So we're already moving away
from important events that are not even available to people
(36:27):
that have direct TV, standard cable, YouTube TV, you name it.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
And isn't is it isn't like the couple of those
Thursday night games on Amazon.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Aren't they only on Amazon? Correct? Now? Yes? Yeah, yeah
you can. You can't get it anywhere else, right because
they don't have a broadcast partner, right, they are their
own entity. That's what's going to happen. And people have said, uh,
I'm not buying a streaming service. Got to tell you yeah,
you are. It won't see me doing that, Yes we will.
(36:59):
We're gonna see you doing that. Years ago, a good
friend of mine who was a producer Channel four, they
changed the way things operated and all of a sudden,
the producers had to edit. He might be listening now.
I love him to death. He's a great guy. And
he said, listen, I was hired as a producer because
technology changed things. I'm not going to edit it. I said, okay,
you're not. No, he's a very good editor. By the way,
(37:22):
because technology changed that, yesh hour, the job changed. You're
not going to see me by the streaming service. I
would never do that, Okay, but you will. That's entirely
up to you. But you will because the way you
consume your sports has changed. One o'clock Jose Motive. He
saw Otani pitch for the Angels and always seeing him
(37:44):
pitch for the Dodgers, and you'll get to hear what
he thinks coming up at one.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
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Speaker 1 (38:03):
Oh yeah, come on. Today's afternoon delight is Won't Stop
by Gunner.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
The Atlanta native dropped this single over the weekend as
he gears up for the release of his yet to
be name album that will be released later this year.
The song is his first release of twenty twenty five
and reportedly debuted with well over a million streams within
the first twenty four hours of its release. Again, Today's
(38:32):
afternoon Delight is Won't Stop by Gunner.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
All right, and now from the court to the court
room with Jacob and Ronni Okay.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Now our weekly chat with our good friend Jacob em Ranni.
And today we say Jacob, Aloha, Helloha, Aloha, how.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
Are you guys?
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Hello ha Jacob sis sing sing me.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Some Don Ho for the Rams Mini camp that you over.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Man, Man, I'm telling you, I've I've been hearing so
much Don Holstins. I've gotten here and uh you know,
I mean, this place is paradise and it's been fun.
We got here yesterday with the Rams for Mini camp.
We're gonna be here a couple of days. I'm actually
in the bus actually on the way to the training
that they're doing this morning. Last night, the Rams did
(39:27):
at first class. They had a big lua with all
the players. So as you know, as a as a fan,
it's always fun to be able to hang out with
the likes of you know, Stafford and Davante and Kyron
Williams and all these guys you know, in a very
sort of casual hangout and had an opportunity to go
for an early morning walk with Sean mcway and you
(39:50):
know his wife. So Sean's an incredible, incredible guy and
just so personable. So it's great experience taking it all
in and sort of learning from this great organizations.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
I think it's great.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Uh I you know, when I heard this was happening,
I was like wondering why other organizations don't do this,
our teams don't do this more to not only you know,
change it up for the players and have something different
for the players, and incorporate the players' families as well.
It is the off season, so it's not as intense,
but you want to get the work in as well,
(40:25):
but also incorporate the fans and your sponsors and people
that support the organization.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
I just it's a great gesture.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
And a great move by by the Rams and and
every team. I think should find a way to do
this now. I was in Detroit and we went to
Tampa Bay in the springtime to go and do a
mini camp down there.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
But that wasn't for the fan base.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
That was for Wayne Fons, who wanted to get away
from his family and wanted.
Speaker 6 (40:52):
To happen.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Because that was his old stomping ground. But that's great.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
I'll tell you something. You hit it. You hit every point.
Last night at the Luas, they had all the officials
from you know, the Maui all the Senators, the House
of Representatives, all the people from the tourism and I
cannot tell you how appreciative they they wore. After the
wildfires two years ago, Maui has been hit in such
(41:21):
a such a major way. So I think the last
time the team was here was the Rams years ago.
That's what they were saying last night. And you know,
bringing the Rams, I mean, you know, we came on
a charter. They brought two big planes of people down here.
You know, the players and their significant others get a
chance to relax. Many of them never been to Hawaii
(41:41):
and it's just incredible for generally team bonding. Obviously, they
brought a you know, a small group of you know,
people like us, but team bonding and making sure that
people get to know you know each other and the families.
It's just incredible. And you're doing a great thing for
Maui that was so hard, you know, hard hit with
their economy.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Uh, all right, Jacob, you're over in Hawaii. You're doing
your thing. But we still have to ask you a
question because our listeners love this. When people are involved
in an accident, they're worried about telling their doctors about
pre existing injuries to their back or neck. If somebody's
involved in an accident but already has a back or
neck issue, does that exclude them from being able to
get paid for the accident that they were just involved in.
Speaker 6 (42:24):
Yeah, so that's an amazing question. You know. I think
most people who may have a pre existing injury or
something that's occurred before, when they're involved in an accident,
they try to hide I don't want to use the
word lie. When they go to the doctor. They're afraid
to tell their doctor whether they've ever been in an
accident before, or whether they have this kind of injury
to the back or the neck. But it's actually the contrary.
(42:46):
I always tell our clients and for our listeners, they
should know that they should always be honest because if
you've had a pre existing injury and you've recovered from it,
you're what we call an xshell, which is a legal
term for somebody who's a lot, you know, who will
get hurt a lot easier than a normal person with
no injuries. So it's always really important to understand that
(43:08):
if you've had a pre existing injury you had to
back or next before, do not lie to your doctors.
Make sure you're honest. The insurance companies try to catch
people on the lies. Instead, make sure you let them know, yes,
I had a previous injury, but I'm fully I was
fully recovered until this occurred. And you're more apt to
get injured because of the fact that you had the
injuries before. So I want to make sure that everybody
(43:30):
knows that you can still make a recovery. Do not
hide those information and be you know, upfront about it,
and the doctor will then know how to treat you
and how to give you the best treatment for a
pre existing injury or an X shell injury.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Jacob, I always wondered this, and I you know, I'm
fascinated by the legal profession and what you do. I
really am because I know it takes a lot of
hard work and obviously a lot of skill.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
But I always.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Wondered why why clients of yours or anybody's what hold
back from their attorneys that are on their side trying
to fight for them. Yet they don't always they're not
always forthright in telling the truth or given or giving
all of the information to their own attorneys.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Why is that? Why do you think that happens?
Speaker 6 (44:19):
You know, That's an amazing, you know question, and unfortunately
we deal with it all the time, even though we
ask people to be upfront with us. Where your attorneys
that's all attorney client privileged. I think a lot of
times people think that they can be smarter than the
professionals they hire, and they feel like they'll never find out.
But in today's world, you know, everything is documented. All
(44:41):
they got to do is put your social security number
in there. All they got to do is just you know,
ask for your last ten years of you know, injury,
and they'll see everything. And if more people are honest
about it, then the attorneys can do a much better
job of being able to tell their story. And we
tell that to all of our clients, and I hope our
listeners understand that as well.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
All Right, will Jacob have a great time in Hawaii,
be safe, go to a number of luau's and we'll
see you when you get back.
Speaker 6 (45:07):
Hello, ha see you guys, do alright?
Speaker 1 (45:10):
All okay show heel Jani makes his debut last night.
Jose Mota saw him pitch for the Angels. He was
at Dodger Stadium last night. Jose joins US next
Let's go to work, Fred Rugan, Rodney Pete on a
five to seventy LA Sports, a big three hour show today.
Jose Mota will join us at one and David Vasse
Rodney will be on the program at two. We are
also giving away a pair of soccer tickets and we'll
be doing that sometime between now and three o'clock. It's
the FIFA Club World Cup at the Rose Bowl. It
(00:23):
starts June fifteenth. We got a pair of tickets. You'll
have a chance to win them coming up between now
and three. Nice. Nice last night last night the most
watched regular season baseball game on MLB Network history, the
most watched on MLB Network history. Padres and the Dodgers
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and Shoe Otani. So we were right. He only went
one inning. Probably wanted to go more. What he threw
twenty five pitches, I believe, yeah, something like that. Uh
didn't get any help from the umpire early should have
punched somebody out that turns into a hit. His velocity.
(01:09):
It was tatis. I believe it was right.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Fatis went around and they didn't call it when he
checked his swing.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
But oh, machado, Machado. Rodney with a machada.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Okay, yeah, clearly went around and they didn't give it
to him.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
But overall, though, Fred, what did you think, Well, the
guy's dorown ninety eight miles an hour, one hundred. He
had one hundred a couple of times. Think about that.
He hadn't pitched in a year and a half. Show. Hey,
go out there, just stretch out, feel good, don't push it.
Let's just get the mechanics in the rhythm down. No problem,
(01:43):
I'll just rifle the ball one hundred miles an hour.
Just think about that. If you really think about what
happened last night, was it an outstanding, sparkling first inning. No, no,
it wasn't. I mean, threw a lot of pitches, only
gave up a run, got out of it cheaply enough,
Asvin would have said. But if you really think about
what happened last night, this guy hasn't pitched in almost
(02:04):
two years. He's faced no one in a game. They
didn't send him anywhere to get back into shape. He's
throwing simulated games before games, and then they just threw
him in and said, go, I have to tell you,
if that is a precursor to what is to come,
everybody better watch out because he is throwing the ball
(02:28):
one hundred miles an hour, ninety eight miles an hour. Now,
he wasn't incredibly crisp and sharp, or was he for
a guy that hadn't pitched in two years. I thought
it was remarkable Rodney. Yesterday we said, no matter what
happened to him, he couldn't lose. And then on top
of it, okay, so they take him out, they're down
(02:49):
one nothing, he ties the game. Yeah, okay, I got
that one back for you boys. Now let's go get him.
I thought it was a great outing. What'd you think? Yeah, now,
I thought it was great.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I think it accomplished what they wanted to accomplish, and
what he wanted to accomplish was get into live game action.
Didn't matter how it went, you know, as you mentioned,
it wasn't you know, as Chris, probably as he would
have liked. He threw an assortment of pitches, you know,
topping out at one hundred miles an hour. I thought
(03:20):
was impressive, but you can you can probably chalk that
up a little bit to adrenaline, you know, him being
pumped up going into that game, but that's his norm.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Though. He's a ninety eight ninety nine mile an hour guy.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
And sometimes he when he cuts it loose, he can
go triple digits. But I thought, you know, for him
not pitching in a year and a half, it looked great.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
And you're right, you're right.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
And then now now the Dodgers, they have to keep
trotting him out there, getting them, you know, one inning
and get him. Now he threw twenty five pitches, maybe
he throws forty pitches and then six. I mean, he's
got to keep trotting him out there because this guy,
come October, is a tremendous weapon, a tremendous weapon. And
(04:10):
you're right, you know, the kind of competitor that he
is is if he gives up a run, you know,
when he comes up to the plate and his mindset is,
I got to get that back. Well, I got to
help myself out. If I'm pitching, right, I'm gonna pick
myself up. I'm not gonna I'm pissed off that I
gave up that hit and I gave up that run,
(04:31):
so now I'm gonna hit it out. That's the kind
of mentality he has, and it's a it's incredible to
watch how.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
How good he is on the mound.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
He's just as good on the mound as he is
at the plate, and it's it's pretty incredible.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah. And the thing about when we watch him, uh,
he seems pretty well, what's up? The good happens? He smiles,
but let's face it, you know what, he walks up
to the plate. He's got a very pleasant demeanor. I
wouldn't him gregarious at any moment. But he smiles and
he goops around, looks like he's having a good time.
You never see him really frown or he's disappointed. He's
(05:10):
very reserved in how he approaches things, except apparently when
he pitches, because then we're going to see a little
something else, another side of sho heeo tani. And when
the machado check swing no call occurred, you could see
on his face that that wasn't good. You could tell
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so for everything that you see when he hits, and
he doesn't seem to be phased by anything, and he
internalizes everything. What he didn't get that call. You could
see it he wasn't pleased. I like that. I like
that competitor. I like that it comes out there. You know,
if you're going to pitch and Rodney, you can speak
(05:52):
to this better than anybody. A part of the game
is intimidation. You think you can beat me, You think, okay,
all right, because it's you and me right now, you
think you can get me. And I think if a
pitcher shows any type of displeasure or anger, I don't
think that's a bad thing. I think it's a good thing.
(06:13):
I think it's everybody unnoticed. It's a great thing to
show emotioned and.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And you know, we we sometimes joke and talk about
Alex Bessie out there, but it is it's an emotional situation.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
It's you know.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
And that's the unique thing about baseball is that although
it's a team game, there are one on one matchups
and it is personal. When you step in a box,
it's one on one with the pitcher. And that's the
thing I always loved about baseball because it was a
team game, but also it was that you against me mentality,
and same thing with the pitcher.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It's you versus the hitter.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And he gets both both of those worlds when he's
when he's pitching.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
But you're right, I think there's more.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
There's a lot more animation from him when he's on
the map than it is when he's at the plate.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
You know, he does.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
He comes up and he thanks thanks the umpire and
says a low to the catcher and says a load
to the opposing manager, and they all know he's gonna
do that, and he's a good guy. He's absolute assassin
though when he steps in the box and he's trying
to kill you. But he just doesn't show it outwardly
as much as he shows it on the mound as
we saw last night, although they're a moment where he
(07:25):
shows it in the box too, you know, like when
he hit that home run against the Padres last year
in his first playoff game, or when he, you know,
Mack Guriel doing this thing in Arizona. You'll see it
come out, but oftentimes it comes out when he's on
the hill. And even when they called Tattis safe at home,
(07:46):
you know, he was animated about that because he thought
he was out and he did the pump in the
fist and wanted the Dodgers to challenge, and.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
You know Tattoos was actually safe.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
But yeah, there's a lot more animation, I think to
him on the mound, and I don't know if it's
just you know, he hadn't been there in a long time.
Fred that he was excited about being back on the hill,
and that's how he you know all or that's how
he always is when he's pitching, but certainly last night
he was very animated.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Well, you know what, who could be Rodney. When he's pitching,
he is controlling the game. It's him, it's on him,
it's about him. When he's hitting, he's one of nine.
Sure he wants to contribute, and God knows he does,
but when he is pitching, it is about him. He
is in control. And maybe what that shows us is
(08:34):
he holds himself to a very very high level. He
expects great things of himself, and he's not gonna put
up with it if he disappoints himself or if someone
disappoints him while he's pitching. And I think that's a
good thing. It's funny if you saw the beginning of
(08:55):
the game, you would have thought that a great historical
figure had risen and was standing at Dodger Stadium when
he started to pitch. Everybody was on their feet for
the first pitch of the game. I'm not talking about
(09:17):
ninth inning closers in let's shut them down and get
out of here. Everybody was on their feet with their
phone pointed at the mound so they could record that
moment because they did see the first time he pitched
for the Dodgers, albeit only an inning, but they were there.
They can say they were there. And what's fascinating about
(09:38):
it is because if you play for the Dodgers, everything
is so much bigger, so much larger. The guy pitched
for the Angels, Did we forget that? And when he
pitched for the Angels he was pretty good? Did we
forget that? Yet for the Dodgers, everybody was on their
(10:02):
feet capturing this moment for posterity, where just a few
years ago he pitched far more than one ending a
game and was good. But this is the one that
counted Rodney. This moment on this team was the moment
that everyone will remember.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, and I think you know, look, if he pitched
last year, it wouldn't have been that this year. It
wouldn't have been the excitement of him coming out, but
the anticipation of when he's gonna pitch and leading up.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
And leaning up to it.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
You know, when everybody thought it was after the All
Star break and then all of a sudden, we found out,
you know, a few days ago, he's gonna go on Monday,
and they broke that.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
News to everybody, and everybody get ready for this.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And you know which is amazing and short notice that
it became the highest rated MLB TV game ever because
they didn't have a month lead in to tell everybody
watch on Monday. It was just from I think Friday
or Saturday when they announced it.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
He but that's what people.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Were anticipating, not just you know, him hitting fifty home
runs like he did a year ago. The beauty and
the uniqueness of Otani was him pitching and hitting in
the same game. And that's what everybody was waiting for.
That's what people believe. That's why you paid him seven
hundred and x y million dollars and he gave it
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to us last night, just a little glimpse of of
doing both of those things, which is remarkable at the
high level that he does it.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
It was special, it really was. And the Dodgers won
the game, and that was another thing. He gave up
the run, he got the run back then they went
on to win. And if I'm the Padres, I'm starting
to think to myself. And it's very early. I know,
I know, but I'm starting to think to myself, Oh,
this ain't good. They got us in San Diego, now
they got us here in the first one with pitching,
(12:01):
and the Dodgers look much better. They just do. Now
that can all change, you know, they're ebbs and flows,
but right now the Dodgers seem far better than the
Padres when you watch them. Yeah, I think they're looking
at it more so.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
You know, Otani's gonna be a tany if you face him,
you know, went down the stretch.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
You're gonna face him once in a series.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
But I think they look at it and go We
had a chance to gain a lot of ground, or
at least take the lead in the West over these
last couple of months because the Dodgers were decimated by
injuries and we had opportunities to really take a stranglehold
on the West and we didn't do that. Now they're
getting healthy again and guys are starting to get into
(12:45):
a groove. And when you got guys down the line
up like Pahz that are gonna beat you, then that's
when it gets scary, because you know about Otani, Freddie
and Mookie and Will Smith. But now you've got Pahz
to wordorry about, you got Edmund to worry about, you
got all these guys to worry about other than those
top three guys. Then it becomes really scary for the
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other teams. And I think that's what's going through their
minds now. It's like we missed a golden opportunity to
really get a stranglehold on the West and we didn't
do it.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
H Andy pa Has was upset last night Dylan Sees
hit him. Pi Has thought he was thrown at him.
I believe it was Manny Machado who that said, if
we're gonna throw on anybody, why would it be him?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, and then he tried to give him a backhand
compliment he's having a great year though, he's having a
great year, and uh, you know, I think you will
continue to have a great year. But yeah, he started
off with me doing superstars on that team. Why are
we throwing at him?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Uh? Yeah, So that might have been a little gamesmanship.
I'm not sure Dyllen Cesar was thrown at Andy Piez,
but nonetheless, at least pi Haz had a chance to
say that it reminded me of last year during the playoffs,
and there are times I think about this. Rod remember
the game at Dodger Stadium, and I think it was
Machado or somebody threw the ball in between Nave Roberts. Yeah,
(14:08):
it was Dave Roberts. And afterwards Dave said, you know what,
it was unnerving. It was unnerving. And then you find
out later, well, it wasn't really that close to Dave Roberts,
but it was kind of gamesmanship on his part.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
No, it was close, don't get me wrong. It wasn't
just a toss either. It was he fired it to
the dugout and it one hopped the fence in front
of him. Who knows how tricky of a hop it
could have took. But yeah, that was that was That
was odd called a gamesmanship or whatever that was. That
was bs to me. You don't do that to the
opposing manager.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
But when he used the word unnerving, sometimes I swear
I think about it and I just laughed, What a
great word to use, What a great word. It was
just unnerving. So the PA has comment, you know, he's
trying to throw at me. It's kind of like that
just kind of getting in her heads a little bit,
just to mess with them a little bit. Put him
on the defensive, put them on the defensive, the Padres
(15:06):
putting them on the put put the Pods on the defensive,
or put pods putting the Dodgies on there. No, No,
we think he's thrown at him, puts the Padres on defensive. Well, first,
did he really throw at him? But on the other hand,
what says, But I don't think he did. I don't
think someone either. So Pi Haz says that they have
to answer that question, like, what do you mean we
wouldn't do that? We wouldn't do that last year when
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the ball bounced. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I don't know if Andy Pie has said that much
thought into reacting that way, be.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Honest with you, Yeah, but I think the Padres then
react to that, and I think that's good. They play defense. Now,
were you throwing at guys? Are you throwing at guys? Really? No,
we didn't know, of course we didn't. Oh did you
really rifle that ball right at Dave Roberts. It was unnerving.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
No, I'm saying that wasn't. That wasn't PI has thought
in that moment it wasn't. He wasn't saying Oh, this
is a moment to get in their skin or get
in their heads. I'm gonna just I'm gonna say that
they threw at me.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
No, well, I agree. I don't think he was intentionally
doing that, but I think that's the result, you know,
and I think, you know, I don't know if it
gets into Padres head that moment, it's just other than Bushley,
you know, the guy I mean thrown at him.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
That's like Maddy said, It's like, I'm sure they all
think that we're gonna throw somebody. We're gonna throw it,
Freddy a Mookie. Oh time, We're not throwing at you.
What does this guy think he is?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Right? So, you know, I don't.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I think it's just it is what it is, and
it blows over. It's not anybody's head.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Well, what it is now is the Dodgers, despite all
of their injuries, are playing really well against good teams.
Ebbs and flows, don't get too up, don't get you down.
But right now you can get up a little bit.
It's okay because the Dodgers are playing well against their
division foes. Every division game counts two game two tonight
against the Padres. So far, it's been a really good
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stretch for this is the big one. This is the
big one. This is the one. Well, it's big for
the Padres. This is when the Padre's got.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
To get because if they lose in a four game set,
they lose two to the Dodgers, then the last two
are must wins for them, right, So at least if
they win this one, then they can split the last
two and that the pressure is not as much on them.
But they go down and lose the first two games
to the Dodgers after losing to them, you know what,
(17:23):
a week and a half ago in a series, then
it becomes a real pressure back situation for them, and
then they do start to wonder, can we can we
ever beat these guys?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Bullpen game for the Dodgers today, according to David Bassey,
and tomorrow Emmin Shehan will start. He's back. Good to
have him back.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, yeah, it's good to have him back. Good to
get some guys coming back now, except we're not gonna
get it.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Sazaki back, Fred, No, it looks like he's done for
the year. I know that's really sad and frustrated. Yeah,
twenty three years old. But he'll have to I mean, look,
there when he was when you watched him and he
was effective, you got it. There's no questions. Young answer
(18:13):
learned to pitch. He probably pitched too much. He didn't
want to come out because he thought he was hurting
the team. But when you really watched him, we saw
him in Japan, we saw his first game in Japan,
then you saw him over here. That stuff is electric.
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
He's got all the talent in the world, and he's
got the body built for it, tall bringing it over
one hundred miles an hour. Uh, you know, he's got
the different pitches. Yeah, And I think yeah, And I
think he'll learn a lesson from that that when you
start to feel something as a pitcher, you can't play
around with it. If it's the slightest little twins or
(18:50):
any kind of feeling, you got to let people know
because it could have been one of those things that
if he just rested and didn't push it, that he's
not out for the season. They fixed or they let
him rest and get it better. But he pushed through
it thinking he had to help the team, like you said,
and now everybody's.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Hurting from it.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
So it's a young thing, and I think he'll learn
from that going forward. But you're right, they're going to
miss him because he is as The more he pitches,
which he needs, the more experienced he is a tremendous
weapon for the Dodgers going forward.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, Gel Tunny in the dugout afterwards, checking the iPad,
he was probably analyzing every pitch He's through, every pitch,
he was studying that thing, looking intently at it. I'll
bet you in his perfect world, he'd be pitching today.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Oh yeah, you know, and through twenty five pitches. So
I'm sure he feels like, hey, I can go some more,
or he can't wait till the next one. I bet
he goes to them next time. Hey I want to
go three innings next time, or I want to go
sixty pitches. You know, I guarantee he goes to the
I just I couldn't get going just throwing that one inning.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I need more.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I don't get loose until the third inning, so you
gotta let me go. I'm ready. Looks like he went
to him told him he was ready to pitch in
a real game. I bet he went to him and said, Hey,
I felt good out there. I gotta go again. When's
my next out and next down, and you're not gonna
put the handcuffs on me.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
You're gonna let me go a little bit. I could
see that happening. Yeah, they're gonna have to protect him
from himself, exactly, they are because it was fun last night.
He had fun last night. If you were there, you
were lucky. You know. That's the thing. You never know
what's gonna happen in any game. One night you might
(20:42):
be there, show hal Tony pitches. Another night you might
be there. You see Key k Hernandez in the sixth
You don't know, you know who's pitching? Who's pitching? Performance?
Will you remember more? Show hal Tony or keyk hernanders
which one? You don't know what you're gonna see. Anything
could happen. We need Mickey Rohas out there on the
hill again. You just don't know. Oh no, it's all right.
(21:13):
Jose Mota who works for the Dodgers, but saw show
hey pitch for the Angels. We'll join us at one o'clock.
David Vassay will be on the program at two o'clock.
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Speaker 4 (21:55):
Oh yes, let's go. It's a beautiful Tuesday. Rodney, Pete
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Speaker 1 (22:03):
Okay. We talk about this all the time, and it
has to do with the way you consume your information.
You listening right now for Temple. If you listen to
the show, you are consuming information and in our world
today we call it content. You are consuming content and
you consume it differently than you used to because many
years ago there were only a few places where you
(22:24):
could get it. Now you can get it anytime you want,
in any form you want. We're pleased and thrilled and
thankful that you share some of your time with us
and get content here. But television has changed the business.
I worked in has changed. I say all the time
to people, as I've created a new model for the
(22:46):
presentation of local news. It's not the business I grew
up in anymore. And if you're at a certain age,
you watched when I was on Channel four long ago,
it's not that way anymore. It doesn't exist. The relevance
of what we do in that form is diminished because
people consume their content differently. For example, you probably have
(23:08):
something to do with AI on a weekly basis, if
not daily, That didn't exist many years ago. So everything changes.
And the one thing that has changed, and at first
people were skeptical Rodney didn't think it would be a
real deal streaming. Streaming has changed the game. Years ago,
if you worked in the business, you realized something was
(23:30):
going to give and you need to get into this new,
weird world of streaming. By the way, before that, you
wanted to get into cable, so there was broadcast. It
went to cable. Not cable is dying because people don't
need it anymore or as much. You do in LA
(23:50):
if you want to watch the Lakers or the Dodgers, Kings, Angels, Ducks,
the local teams, but now it's on streaming and It's funny.
I knew Rodney that younger people did not watch what
we would call linear television anymore. So what would that
(24:12):
be if you're not acquainted with the term. The NBA
Finals will be on ABC. ABC is linear television. NBC
is linear television, CBEs. That means what everybody can get
it broadcast television free, broadcast TV free, don't have to
pay for it, don't have to pay your cable provider.
(24:33):
You get rabbit ears, you can get it. Correct, that's
exactly right. Of course, there are people that would never
know what rabbit ears are listening right now, but yes,
you get it for free. That is linear television. Okay,
there are going to continue to be sporting events on
linear television, and quite frankly, that's going to happen because
(24:53):
that's really the only way it's going to survive long
term live sports works. But even with nbcn Monday Night Football,
well you can watch it on Channel four or you
can watch it on Peacock. If you think about it,
every one of the networks has a streaming service attached
(25:14):
to it. Disney has Hulu and Disney Plus right, NBC
has Peacock, CBSS Paramount Plus everybody's got them because that's
where the audience is going. And what I found really fascinating,
and I read this this morning. I know, let's say,
people twenty five and younger, they don't even know what
network TV is, correct, They have no clue none. And
(25:38):
actually even with ABC and CBS Channel two, channel four,
channel seven, five eleven in LA, you can watch it
on YouTube TV. Oh yeah, oh yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
When we moved we recently moved to four or five
years ago, whatever it was, even our kids, you know,
we were setting up the house and on all those things.
It's like, okay, we're gonna set up you need to
you need a you want the cable box in your room.
It's like, we never watched that. We just we stream everything.
(26:11):
We watch either Netflix or YouTube or whatever. But we
don't watch local TV or we don't watch traditional TV.
So they didn't We never even set it up, and
majority of the house. But I'm old school, so I
still want it, Like you said, you still want to
get the Dodgers and the Lakers and the Clippers and
all those games. But for the most part, the kids,
(26:33):
the younger generation, as you mentioned, they don't even know
what it is. They don't care because they can stream everything.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Now. You know, it's not called a television anymore, it's
called a monitor. Monitor. Yeah right. You don't go out
and buy a new TV. You go on by a monitor,
just what size, and they're all equipped to handle all
of those. They've already got it loaded in on all
the new TVs, so you don't even have to do
anything other than put it in your password and all
(27:01):
of a sudden, all the things come up exactly. So
I knew people younger than twenty five were streaming. Here's
what I found interesting, And I'm sure there are people
of this generation listening to us now or close. You know,
people over sixty five now stream more than they watch
broadcast TV. And I never thought that would have been
(27:21):
possible because people are set in their ways. Right, the
older you get, the more set in your ways you are.
And this is how we've always done it, And get
off my lawn. We are finding more people now sixty
five are over streaming for the streaming industry. That's a
very good thing. Why do you think that is right?
(27:42):
I think what it is is you're going to have
to pay for something, and are you going to pay
for cable and really get a lot of channels you
don't want, or are you going to stream? And let's
take get Netflix. Okay, you're set. They have new shows,
or Apple TV or Prime Video they have cool shows too.
(28:06):
The way everything or Hulu, the way everything happens is
so different now. And when I saw that, the old
the old because the older generation you can always count
on them for what your your local news, right, that's
what they wanted, give me my local news. I want
to see Fred Rogan at eleven, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
And but you're saying that that has changed now that
they don't necessarily care about having their local channels anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
True. Now, to be fair, as you pointed out, you
can still use rabbit ears and get them. Or if
you have YouTube TV, for example, then you get all
of your local channels. That's not a question. It's just
like cable. But if you got YouTube TV and Netflix,
your seton the thing is that's why all of these
networks are putting their big ticket events streaming as well
(28:57):
as broadcast, because eventual it's all going to be streaming.
So you'll want to buy Peacock if you want the
Olympics and you want the NBA and you want the
NFL and the Kentucky Derby. That's where you'll see them eventually,
not tomorrow, within ten years.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Why do you think, why did it go that direction
so fast? Is it because of internet, wireless internet and
all of those things that are happening that people can
watch it anywhere. You don't have to be in a
specific location to watch the Kentucky Derby or watch the
Super Bowl. You could be on a plane and watch it,
or you can be anywhere in your car and you
(29:40):
can watch any show or any even live broadcast now
from your phone or your tablet. Is it because the
access to anywhere is why streaming just just as overwhelmed
cable and linear TV this quickly.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
That's a big part of it. Technology. Absolutely, here's the
other part. Everybody listening right now, your life is very
different than it was ten years ago. I don't care
where you were or what you did, your life is
very different than it was ten years ago. And the
reason being when you can access through technology, entertainment or
information and the palm of your hand whenever you wanted,
(30:22):
the whole game changed. Back in the day, a show
called Seinfeld was on NBC or Friends. Shows like that
er Desperate Housewives on ABC, and that would be what
we called appointment television. You would sit and you would wait,
and you'd watch the clock and the show would come on,
and everybody would be glued to their TV sets because
(30:45):
those were the top shows in the country at that time.
You couldn't see them again, You couldn't see them when
you wanted to see them. You had to see them then.
In today's world, if you miss it eight o'clock Eastern
on Sea at nine o'clock Eastern on CBS, you can
stream it on their streaming service. You're not beholden to
(31:09):
anything any longer. You're not beholden to waiting for the
news at five o'clock. You don't have to. You can
get it whenever you want in your hand. You can
watch a TV show that you missed, that you needed
to see, or you really wanted to see. You can
watch it in the palm of your hand. And when
that happens, the rules change. So as that became technology
(31:32):
allowed us to advance into that arena. I don't have
to sit here and wait for anything. The only thing
you'll watch is live stuff and mostly sports, mostly sports,
because there is a build up to it, people talk
about it, people could be betting on it. It's usually
(31:52):
a part of pop culture and you want to be
in the know at that moment. And also you don't
know the outcome. It's like a reality show, right right.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
The unknown is what people are drawn to still, right,
and that's why live sports are still king. And in
terms of you know, the networks, the broadcast network that
that also stream and simulcast it, is there a lot
more money into it for them to do that? You know,
(32:24):
like now you will see a lot of games, right
they're on ABC, but yet they're on YouTube as well
at the same time, or they're on Amazon, you know,
and they're on multiple multiple channels, whether it be broadcast,
linear TV and a streaming source at the same time.
Is there is that the revenue for the say like
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the NFL, or is that revenue for say ABC that
has Monday night football.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
It's for ABC, AB or Disney for example. Yeah, gets
to capitalize on that. So you're saying, why do they
do that? Why would you run it on Channel seven
and on Espnplus or whatever their streaming site is. Why
would they do that? Here's why in the perfect world,
(33:13):
it wouldn't run on Channel seven anymore. But you see,
the only way Channel seven, Channel four, Channel two, Channel
eleven they're going to survive is with sports. You take
the sports off a broadcast platform. Who's watching it? Nobody,
(33:34):
and they still make money on that platform. NBC owns
a network. Channel four in Los Angeles is an owned station.
WNBC in New York is owned. There's like ten twelve
owned stations, but the other stations around the country are affiliates.
Affiliates carrying network programming produced by NBC and pay NBC
(33:57):
for the right to carry it. So for they're still
making money on the linear platform, not as much so
anything they have that you see on Channel four that
also runs on peacock. You have to understand. And people
were adverse to this a couple of years ago, and
(34:19):
they missed the boat. It's all going to go over there.
One day. It will all be there. You will not
watch TV like you have. It will all be A
question is for ABC, who has the rights to Monday
night football, why would they want to drive the traffic
to ESPN Plus or a streaming service and not drive
(34:39):
everybody to Channel seven. They have no choice. They have
no choice. They're gonna all go over there eventually anyway.
It doesn't matter because it's an audience.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
If you do that anyway, you'd be shortsighting yourself if
you don't allow it to be streamed.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah, well, and here's the thing. We're going to keep
it on Channel seven, but we're also gonna run it.
We're gonna stream it because the younger people are gonna
see it streaming. They're never gonna see it on channel
And you want the eyeball, the eyeballs is gonna is
what you're after. And yeah, in the eyeballs if we
stream it. But the younger eyeballs aren't even watching regular television.
They are watching streaming. So if you just said we're
(35:18):
gonna put this event on channel two, some people wouldn't
even know what channel two means. Right, What does that mean?
Channel two? I have no idea. I've never heard of
that crazy wacky thing. They are used to streaming. So
what you do is you keep it on the linear platform,
the broadcast platform, the platform we all grew up watching,
(35:41):
but also put it over here in streaming because that's
where everybody's going.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
I will say, by the way, they're moving away from
even doing that. The NFL HA said playoff games last year,
that was two years ago, extreme exclusively on Peacock. Yeah,
last year on Netflix. This year they'll have obviously Christmas
games and Amazon a big one Rodney's. So part of
the NBA's deal with Amazon and ABC, ESPN and Peacock,
(36:04):
Amazon is going to have i think six of eleven
NBA conference finals exclusively. So if you want to watch
the Western or Eastern Conference finals for six of the
eleven years of the contract, it's gonna be exclusively on Amazon.
So if you have only over the air TV or
a cable subscription and not Amazon Prime, you won't even
be able to watch those. So we're already moving away
from important events that are not even available to people
(36:27):
that have direct TV, standard cable, YouTube TV, you name it.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
And isn't is it isn't like the couple of those
Thursday night games on Amazon.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Aren't they only on Amazon? Correct? Now? Yes? Yeah, yeah
you can. You can't get it anywhere else, right because
they don't have a broadcast partner, right, they are their
own entity. That's what's going to happen. And people have said, uh,
I'm not buying a streaming service. Got to tell you yeah,
you are. It won't see me doing that, Yes we will.
(36:59):
We're gonna see you doing that. Years ago, a good
friend of mine who was a producer Channel four, they
changed the way things operated and all of a sudden,
the producers had to edit. He might be listening now.
I love him to death. He's a great guy. And
he said, listen, I was hired as a producer because
technology changed things. I'm not going to edit it. I said, okay,
you're not. No, he's a very good editor. By the way,
(37:22):
because technology changed that, yesh hour, the job changed. You're
not going to see me by the streaming service. I
would never do that, Okay, but you will. That's entirely
up to you. But you will because the way you
consume your sports has changed. One o'clock Jose Motive. He
saw Otani pitch for the Angels and always seeing him
(37:44):
pitch for the Dodgers, and you'll get to hear what
he thinks coming up at one.
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Now our weekly chat with our good friend Jacob em Ranni.
And today we say Jacob, Aloha, Helloha, Aloha, how.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
Are you guys?
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Hello ha Jacob sis sing sing me.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Some Don Ho for the Rams Mini camp that you over.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Man, Man, I'm telling you, I've I've been hearing so
much Don Holstins. I've gotten here and uh you know,
I mean, this place is paradise and it's been fun.
We got here yesterday with the Rams for Mini camp.
We're gonna be here a couple of days. I'm actually
in the bus actually on the way to the training
that they're doing this morning. Last night, the Rams did
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at first class. They had a big lua with all
the players. So as you know, as a as a fan,
it's always fun to be able to hang out with
the likes of you know, Stafford and Davante and Kyron
Williams and all these guys you know, in a very
sort of casual hangout and had an opportunity to go
for an early morning walk with Sean mcway and you
(39:50):
know his wife. So Sean's an incredible, incredible guy and
just so personable. So it's great experience taking it all
in and sort of learning from this great organizations.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
I think it's great.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Uh I you know, when I heard this was happening,
I was like wondering why other organizations don't do this,
our teams don't do this more to not only you know,
change it up for the players and have something different
for the players, and incorporate the players' families as well.
It is the off season, so it's not as intense,
but you want to get the work in as well,
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but also incorporate the fans and your sponsors and people
that support the organization.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
I just it's a great gesture.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
And a great move by by the Rams and and
every team. I think should find a way to do
this now. I was in Detroit and we went to
Tampa Bay in the springtime to go and do a
mini camp down there.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
But that wasn't for the fan base.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
That was for Wayne Fons, who wanted to get away
from his family and wanted.
Speaker 6 (40:52):
To happen.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Because that was his old stomping ground. But that's great.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
I'll tell you something. You hit it. You hit every point.
Last night at the Luas, they had all the officials
from you know, the Maui all the Senators, the House
of Representatives, all the people from the tourism and I
cannot tell you how appreciative they they wore. After the
wildfires two years ago, Maui has been hit in such
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a such a major way. So I think the last
time the team was here was the Rams years ago.
That's what they were saying last night. And you know,
bringing the Rams, I mean, you know, we came on
a charter. They brought two big planes of people down here.
You know, the players and their significant others get a
chance to relax. Many of them never been to Hawaii
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and it's just incredible for generally team bonding. Obviously, they
brought a you know, a small group of you know,
people like us, but team bonding and making sure that
people get to know you know each other and the families.
It's just incredible. And you're doing a great thing for
Maui that was so hard, you know, hard hit with
their economy.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Uh, all right, Jacob, you're over in Hawaii. You're doing
your thing. But we still have to ask you a
question because our listeners love this. When people are involved
in an accident, they're worried about telling their doctors about
pre existing injuries to their back or neck. If somebody's
involved in an accident but already has a back or
neck issue, does that exclude them from being able to
get paid for the accident that they were just involved in.
Speaker 6 (42:24):
Yeah, so that's an amazing question. You know. I think
most people who may have a pre existing injury or
something that's occurred before, when they're involved in an accident,
they try to hide I don't want to use the
word lie. When they go to the doctor. They're afraid
to tell their doctor whether they've ever been in an
accident before, or whether they have this kind of injury
to the back or the neck. But it's actually the contrary.
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I always tell our clients and for our listeners, they
should know that they should always be honest because if
you've had a pre existing injury and you've recovered from it,
you're what we call an xshell, which is a legal
term for somebody who's a lot, you know, who will
get hurt a lot easier than a normal person with
no injuries. So it's always really important to understand that
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if you've had a pre existing injury you had to
back or next before, do not lie to your doctors.
Make sure you're honest. The insurance companies try to catch
people on the lies. Instead, make sure you let them know, yes,
I had a previous injury, but I'm fully I was
fully recovered until this occurred. And you're more apt to
get injured because of the fact that you had the
injuries before. So I want to make sure that everybody
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knows that you can still make a recovery. Do not
hide those information and be you know, upfront about it,
and the doctor will then know how to treat you
and how to give you the best treatment for a
pre existing injury or an X shell injury.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Jacob, I always wondered this, and I you know, I'm
fascinated by the legal profession and what you do. I
really am because I know it takes a lot of
hard work and obviously a lot of skill.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
But I always.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Wondered why why clients of yours or anybody's what hold
back from their attorneys that are on their side trying
to fight for them. Yet they don't always they're not
always forthright in telling the truth or given or giving
all of the information to their own attorneys.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Why is that? Why do you think that happens?
Speaker 6 (44:19):
You know, That's an amazing, you know question, and unfortunately
we deal with it all the time, even though we
ask people to be upfront with us. Where your attorneys
that's all attorney client privileged. I think a lot of
times people think that they can be smarter than the
professionals they hire, and they feel like they'll never find out.
But in today's world, you know, everything is documented. All
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they got to do is put your social security number
in there. All they got to do is just you know,
ask for your last ten years of you know, injury,
and they'll see everything. And if more people are honest
about it, then the attorneys can do a much better
job of being able to tell their story. And we
tell that to all of our clients, and I hope our
listeners understand that as well.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
All Right, will Jacob have a great time in Hawaii,
be safe, go to a number of luau's and we'll
see you when you get back.
Speaker 6 (45:07):
Hello, ha see you guys, do alright?
Speaker 1 (45:10):
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