7/16 H3: Lawrence Frank talks PG contract; Haiku

Lawrence Frank speaks on the record about the Paul George contract offer controversey. Vic the Brick haiku

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think, is addressing the media andkind of filling everybody in on what's going
on with the Clippers. Let's startwith this. He was disappointed, quite
frankly that Kawhi Leonard was on theUSA basketball roster and then he was off.
He basically said, I understand theyhave to do what they have to
do, but it's still disappointing.He wanted to see Kawhi play. So

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USA Basketball made that decision, Rodney, they decided it. See, I
didn't understand how that came down.I didn't know if it was USA BA
basketball or was a joint decision mutualdecision with Kawhi and and and USA basketball
that he wasn't he wasn't gonna play. He was going to focus on getting
himself healthy or whatever. I didn'tknow it was one sided, fred I

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didn't. I thought it was likea mutual thing. Well, Rodney,
I believe it was Shamas who saidis yes. USA Basketball ultimately had the
final say, but the NBA,the league, and the Clippers were on
board with Kawhi not playing. Wasthe initial reporting. Yeah, so it's
interesting that Lawrence Frank said, wewere disappointed and we wanted him to play.

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Yeah, weird, weird how he'scoming out now and saying that.
And Tyler los an assistant by theway, Tyler Lo's an assistant coach on
the team right now too. Yeah, he's had the first hand experience of
what Kawhi is or isn't doing,or how he looks. Yeah, he
get keep him out of this drill. We're only going to play him five
minutes. I mean, Tyler Louisgot as much say as Steve Kerr when
it comes to his guy. Sothat whole situation is really interesting. Yeah,

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I found it fascinating. It kindof sounds like they cut him right,
That's kind of what it sounds like. They watched him and they believed
that he couldn't give them what theyneeded, so they cut him. I
don't think I've ever heard of thatbefore with USA basketball at this point,
with a player of that magnitude.No, That's why I wrote it off

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and didn't think a big deal becauseI was like, well, because we
all thought it was a stretch forhim to play anyway, right, he
hadn't played. There was controversy,you know, he didn't couldn't finish the
year with the Clippers. Why ishe playing USA Basketball with Clipper fans be
up in arms, And we hadthat whole discussion, and many people did,
you know, should he even beplaying? And he's is he taking

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a spot? And you know,kind of all that came into play,
and then when it came down andhe wasn't, it was like, Okay,
they cooler hills, cooler heads prevailedand they just looked at it and
go, let's just focus on gettingKawhi healthy for next year. Clippers are
on board. Ty Loo's the coach, as Kevin mentioned, give it.
Just get somebody else in there andtake the spot. But the way Lawrence

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Frank is saying that they they dissedhim, he kind of did him wrong
a little bit. What would possessthem to do that. It had to
be something in the way he waspracticing. Don't you think what else could
it be? Lawrence Frank said thatfrom what he understood, he looked fine
in practices. It had to befrom way Kawhi was practicing. Yeah,

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and that was part of the initialreporting to run. Is it based on
the first handful of practices we had? You know, wasn't a meeting up
to standard. Now Team USA didn'tsay that, but the reporter the leaks
were saying that about him, thathe wasn't practicing that. Well, Steve
Kerr ain't saying that, yeah,anything his practicing or in Tyler on the
staff. Well, we took alook and we evaluated Kawhi in practice,

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and yeah, he's not quite upto stand it. Really really, it's
like you're gonna ask Robert de Niroto audition, you know, for a
role. No, no, thatthat was a bunch of bs and look
good in practice. So we're gonnawe're gonna eliminate him from the squad.
Come on, give me how doeshe how does he not look good in
practice? No matter what, whetheryou like him or don't, whether you

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know he's injured all the time,or he's not I'll tell you, just
quiet and look good in practice.How could that be if he could walk,
How could that be to the levelof we want him off the team.
Not not he's not you know,he's not sharp, or he's he's
limping around, he's lumbering around,to the point where they say it's not
it's not for the betterment of theof the Olympic team. It's it's better

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for him not to be on theteam. That's how bad he was in
practice, that's what you're telling me. Come on, come on. Practice
has nothing to do with when thoseguys get there. They all know what
those guys can do. They allknow and watch them over years play the
reason they're there in the first place, and the reason they were picked.

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Practice has nothing to do with whetheror not the guy's on the team unless
yes, unless yeah, they lookedat practice and it was just so clear
that he cannot run up and downthe court, and then it's like,
okay, we can't. He can'teven run up and down the court.
There's no way he can play,and then they make the decision. But

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that's not what they're saying. That'snot what Laurence Frank Frank is saying.
See, he's disappointed that he's noton the team. And who was more
best in his health than Lawrence Frank. Lord Frank ad giver rats about the
USA Olympic team. He wants Kawhihealthy for the Clippers. And this is
Lawrence Frank saying, No, he'sfine, he should be playing for the
Olympic team. That is weird.Didn't makes sense, all right. Lawrence
Frank also talked about the Paul Georgesituation. Now we heard Paul George and

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Paul talked about the fact that theycame to him and it didn't work,
and he was actually surprised when theystarted the negotiations and it simply got to
a point where he went, no, that's not gonna work. He sort
of felt disrespected with what they didwhen they were negotiating with his potts.
He said he was respecting. Yeah, okay, Well, Lawrence Frank talked

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to the media. Now here's whatLaurence Frank had to say about Paul George
and the negotiation. Yeah. Ithink, you know, not speaking for
Paul, but I think the numberhe probably didn't include was the first number
is is opting number at fifty million, so fifty million plus sixty so it
was one hundred and ten. Andthis was all prior to getting that heavy

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lifter. Once we got James,without anyone asking for anything more. For
both Kwy and PG, the offerers, both of them went significantly higher still
managing max Caapspas in twenty six twentyseven and being out of the second aprin
in twenty five twenty six. Andthe goal was get you as much money
as possible. But we still haveto add to the team. I think

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the important part is you have tobe honest with your players. Look,
we're trying to win a championship.That's why we brought this group together.
That's why we gave up so muchto get Paul Kawai. The unfortunate part
of it, we only had onehealthy postseason. That's not anybody's fall,
but that's three out, so we'regonna have to add another major player to

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the group. Makes sense. Myquestion is, and maybe you guys remember
better than I do, didn't theyget Kawhi done before James Harden I believe
they did. Ale double check,but I believe Saw. I believe Kawhi
got done in December possibly, ifI remember correctly. Okay, So if
that's the case, how did Kawhi'soffer go up higher? He's done?

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How did that offer get better?He's already done. And Paul George's position
was all he wanted initially is whatKawhi had. Now I agree with Lawrence
Frank a billion percent. We gotto win here. We gotta have money
to improve the team. Well,we've got to put together a team we
believe can contend. So I getthat, but I just I don't underst

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stand if at the very beginning PaulGeorge said, just give me what Kawhi
has, whatever that is, I'mgood to go. That's what Paul George
said. Is that what you said? Friends? Well, I'm not really
understanding what Lawrence Frank said, butjust to jump in, by the way,
So they traded for They traded forJames Harden on October thirty first,

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and Kawhi Leonard signed his extension inJanuary. Okay, so they took care
of Kawhi before they took care ofJames Harden. I remember when Kawhi Leonard,
Well, they always traded for JamesHarden with the idea we'll see how
this goes and if it works out, will extend you. So I'm not
worried about that part of it.But Kawhi when he signed, he said,
I basically got assurance is that everybodythat needs to be back is going
to be back, and everybody assumedthat meant Paul George. So Kawhi at

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the time that he signed had adecent inkling that Paul George and the Clippers
are going to be able to getsomething worked out. Yeah, But what
I'm not understanding is Lawrence Frank saidonce they signed James Harden, unless I
misunderstood the offers for Kawhi and PaulGeorge and Kreaes. But Kawhi was done
so well, he wasn't done yet. He didn't say that he did,

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but but it wasn't done yet.Again. October is when they traded for
James Harden. Kawhi signed his extensionin January, but James Harden just signed.
My point, is am I missingit? Maybe I am. I'm
thinking. Maybe I'm thinking about whenthey acquired James Harden. I think the

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contract negotiations probably started at that point. No, I hear you, but
it wasn't done. It wasn't done, Kevin, can we play that one
more time? Sure? Absolutely?Yeah. I think, you know,
not speaking for Paul, but Ithink the number he probably didn't include was

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the first numbers is opting number atfifty million, so fifty million plus sixty
so it was one hundred and ten. And this was all prior to getting
that heavy lifter. Once we gotJames, without out anyone asking for anything
more for both kuying PG, theoffers both of them went significantly higher.
And when I apology, he says, once we got James, meaning once

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they acquired James Harden in October,right as the season was starting, So
they basically it sounds like they werein negotiations with Paul and Kawhi before the
season, before they even acquired JamesHarden. Now them acquiring James made them
go back to the drawing board andincreased their offers for whatever reason. That's
what he's saying. They had nothingto do with James's extension that he signed
this offseason. It was after theyacquired him. But he also pointed out

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that Paul had a fifty million optin correct, and a sixty million they
offered him. It would have beensixty in new money basically, so sixty
plus fifty is how the Clippers werelooking at it, right, But what
Paul George said, again, ifI'm wrong, I'm wrong. I wanted
the three to start. I wantedthe three year like Kawhi got. Yeah,
and that's not what their initial offerwas, okay, which Lawrence Fring

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basically confirmed, Yes, our initialoffer, we looked at it as three
years, one ten, assuming hewas going to opt into his player with
two more years, correct, right, and which Paul said on his podcast
gave me the same thing. Yeah, Paul said that was a slap in
the face, that that initial offer. So then Lawrence Frank says once they
traded for James Harden, they uppedtheir offer. Now Lawrence didn't say by

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how much or what they're offering,but he said they upped their offer.
Okay, Okay, whatever it was. Obviously it wasn't satisfactory for Paul.
And then Lawrence is basically using theargument of we're trying to field the team
here. I can't pay all youguys all this money because it also hasn't
worked these last five years, andI want to pay you guys, compensate
you guys as much as I possiblycan, but it's hard to pay everybody

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everything that they want and also feelthe competitive team my by that right,
which is what we said last weektoo. By the way, the Clippers
just didn't say that publicly until now. Yeah. By by that, yeah,
we gotta win. Yeah. Butwas that conveyed to Paul George.
See, that's the thing, Rodney. He Paul didn't say that on the
pot. I'm assuming it was,but he didn't point that part out.

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I can't believe that during the negotiationsthey didn't say, look, man,
we want to pay you what wecan, but the luxury tax, the
new CBA, all this stuff,we can only pay so many people so
much money. Maybe they didn't saythat. That's hard for me to believe
that. He even said, wewant to be honest with our players.
Yeah, from that perspective, itsounded like they filled them in. Yeah
that Paul omitted that part from hispodcast ran well. I think he was

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just so upset with the initial offer. Could be give them what he said
that after that it was over.You know how that is, Rodney.
They come to you with an offer, Yeah, and you know, like
the first they come to you andthey go, You're expecting whatever, and
they come to you with this andit's like, well, what is that?
The hell's that? Right? That'snot even is that laughable? What

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are we doing here? We allknow what this needs to be and you
kind of blindsided me with this.And maybe they would have got to wherever
they wanted to get to. That'sfine, yeah, but when you start
a certain place, it rubs youthe wrong way to be in with It's
like, that's where they're starting,and we got to play these games to
get to where we feel comfortable.You know, this is after Kawhi signed,

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so you know, you kind ofknow where you're at. You know
where the ballpark is, and theydon't come to at least the playground,
and so you're sitting there going wow. And so we got to we got
to go through all this BS negotiationsto kind of land at a place that's
close. Well, we got togo through the BS to land at a

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place where we know we're going toland. So why are we playing games?
Why are we playing games? Weknow the number, we know where
we need to be, But whyare you starting twenty millions lower or whatever
they you know, why are youstarting right down there? We know what
we got to get to. Iwant to be here. I've said that
to you guys. I want tobe here. I want to work this
out. I understand. Kawhi iskawhi? Why are we? Why are

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we? Why are we playing thesegames of you know, like I'm a
rookie and we got to start lowand end up in the middle. I
don't know that you the wrong waythough, if you're an adult, did
you ever have one of those?Yeah? I did where it started off,

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and I knew kind of where wherewe wanted to land because it had
been kind of thrown out there alittle bit, and and and what some
other people were making, and butthe starting point was so far off that
it was they're not serious, youknow. It's like, let's let's see

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if we can get him. Let'ssee if we can get him, is
the way, you know, youkind of take it, your initial reaction,
let's see if we can get oneover on him, you know.
And then and then they start throwingout, well, you know you didn't
do this, and you know thisguy's camp and he's only doing this.
It's like he's trying to make upor make sense of why they offered your

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low ball due knowing that they're goingto get to a point where you guys
are close enough to make a deal. You know, there's a there's a
point where you know, Okay,we're in, we're in. We're in
the neighborhood. We're in the neighborhood. Let's make it. We're gonna make
this happen, you know, whetherthat means and incentive to make it happen
or just number. We're gonna makeit app We're gonna make it win the
neighborhood. But when they start outsidethe neighborhood, they're on a different block.

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You're like, what, why,why are we wasting everybody's time?
That's exactly what I think, youknow, as we kind of workshopping here,
maybe that's what happened. Yeah,it's like that, and that's what
he said. He felt disrespected,he felt insulted. Yeah, guys,

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we know where we gotta be.We're on the same page and we we
ultimately know where we're gonna get,So why don't we just get to it.
Yeah, well we're gonna get toit. Why are you gonna put
a bad taste in my mouth?I've had one of those in my TV

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career. Yeah, I had one, and you know, you know where
you're gonna end up. So andmy deals were really easy to do.
As a matter of fact, thiswas a little different because the corporate structure
had changed. And so here wego again. They called to go,
this is where we're starting, andI just started laughing. Uh huh,

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I just started laughing. I said, why are we doing that? You
know the number, I know thenumber. We all know the number.
It's not a surprise, it's nota secret. We all know where we're
going to go. Why are youdoing that? Why? Well, to
make who win in a negotiation?Yeah, you gotta pie somebody to say

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we started here, this is wherewe started, this is what we offered.
Or were you trying to insult meor trying to get one over on
me and say I think that maybeI just take it, and maybe you
kind of you do, by theway, to get what over on me
because I I got so desperate I'mjust gonna take it. Is that what
you tried to do to me?The psychology of negotiation is really fascinating in

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that Okay, here's our initial offer, right, and you're not going to
take it. But at the endof it. But at the end of
it, you know what they cansay, See, we met you,
we met you, we gave,we came up, we gave you all
the way up. Look at us. We gave. And when you negotiate
with people, that's why it's sucha waste of time half the time because

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you know they're going to start lowand the minute you get that number,
the minute you get that number,you go three times higher than you want.
Mm hm Okay, now let's takethree weeks and get to where we
should be. Pretty simple, butthere's an art to negotiating, and people
that do that for a living,they always want to feel like they've won.

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The ultimate negotiation is everybody it feelslike they got what they wanted,
but everybody feels like it didn't allgo their way. Then it's a win.
Yeah, right, then it's awin. And then you can say
to the whoever you're negotiating with,Okay, thanks man, you know,
I know this is where you started, but you got me to don't get

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it. I didn't get everything Iwanted, but I it was fair.
That's fair. It was instead ofjust going like this, this is it,
this is it, and when theygive you this is it. They
should always give you a little wiggleroom too. This is it's no,
it's this, this is it.Can you do it a little better?

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Yeah? Yeah, yeah, butthis is it last and final. So
it feels like they gave a littlebit and you feel like, Okay,
I got everything I could. Ilove nothing on the table exactly. We
fought for what we wanted. Wereally we had our number behind behind closed
doors. We had our number,and we already we got there. So
we're good. We're good, youknow. And maybe they had their number

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two, and maybe there's some otherlittle throat things thrown incentive why it's thrown
in there, But we got ournumber, so we're good. Let's try
get a little bit more. Ifwe can try get a little bit more,
let's do it. Then it's reallygravy, but we're at our number,
so we know it's gonna work.Yeah, and they do too,
right of course, businesses, here'sthe thing. Look at the Dodgers and
Corey seeger. Let's just look atthat. For example, they knew they

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were not going to pay him whathe got paid in Texas, period,
right or wrong, good or bad, like it or not, mistake or
great decision. They knew there wasa number. What we don't even need
to play games here. Yeah,we're gonna make you this offer. That's
our number if you can beat ournumber, because we decided that's it.

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Okay, we get it, Weget it right. Was it a mistake?
I don't know. Some people sayyes, some people say no,
Yeah, but that's how you doit. They know the number, right,
Corey, and they were up front, right, they knew. Scott
Boris knew. They knew that theywe can't do this, and somebody out
there is gonna do it. Justcame off of winning the World Series MVP.

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You know, they had back upbecause Trade Turner was still on the
contract. So whether they thought downthe road that they could re sign Trade
Turner in a year, who knows, but they knew that they couldn't.
They weren't going to be able topay Corey that and so they cut to
the chase. And the Dodgers areone of the few things because we talked
to Andrew Friedman about that. Youknow, look, we want to honor

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you because you've honored us. Gosee you can go see what you're what
you can get out there, Gosee go see you know what the market's
gonna bear for you. We justcan't match that. But if you can,
if you can get more, goget more. We respect you that
much because they always know the number. The Clippers knew that number. They

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knew the number because you always dobecause businesses operate in five year cycles.
It's not like you wake up inthe morning, go Okay, what are
we gonna pay everybody this year?How are we gonna do this? No,
they're working five year cycles. Sothey're projecting right now what their salary
will be in five years right now, and everything fits into a slot.

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Now. There could be some adjustmentsor alterations, but that's how business works.
They don't get up in the morninggo Rodney, what do you want?
Ten million dollars done? Kevin,what do you want? Eight million
dollars done? What do you want? What do you want? What do
you want? Okay, Oh,we're out of money. That's not how
they operate, that's not how businessworks. So the Clippers knew the number,
and it's just odd that it goesgot to go through the game plan

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to get get there. And again, you don't know, it's gonna rub
somebody the wrong way and I've seenit a lot of times where guys are
I've seen guys just like because ofthat initial number offer, whatever it may
be, or the conversations that happenbecause you got to negotiate, right,
you got to you gotta. Sometimesit goes ugly and the agent tells you,
which your agent probably shouldn't do.Well, this is what they're saying

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about you exactly. You know you'renot this and you're not that. Like,
well, the hell with them,I'm gone, I'll take less,
go somewhere else, just to stickit to them. I've seen that happen
a lot of times with guys.Yeah, I think that happens more than
you think. Yeah, it does. They're gonna insult me like that,
What the hell with them? Idon't care. I'm playing. I'm going

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somewhere else. I'm going to therival just for the right to stick it
to him. It's the right tostick it to him, just for that
right. And then you know ateam will come back and grobble and say
no, we'll meet your number.No, too late, too late,

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I gotta tell you, Tiaska Hernanda, it's got to feeling pretty good.
Ends up with the Dodgers in aone year deal. Really wanted to be
in the home run derby. Andnow we'll start in the All Star Game.
We'll talk about that next. Ohyeah, come on, keep it

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moving. Good news, good newsfor our guy, fred Ridpte Fred Rogan
on a Monday. Yeah, howcool is it for Tiascar Hernandez? Very
cool, very cool getting the start. I mean, to this point,
it's got to be a dream seasonfor him. We've chronicled his his his
story, how he got here,why he's here, has come up with

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some incredibly important hits for the Dodgers. Certainly he's been a bright spot.
No one can deny that wanted tobe in the home run derby. Some
guys shy away from it. Hewanted it, he got it, and
now he was voted onto the team. There was a question about that,
and now what taed Tee's hurt toask. Hernandez gets the start. I

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think that is really cool. Thatis great, great for him and a
guy that is beloved in the clubhouseworks his ass off to get here.
Like you mentioned, Fred, hehad he had some good years, but
had some ear years where he wasinjured and didn't fulfill some of that.
I think some of his potential.Wanted to be a Dodger and wanted to

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take advantage of what this organization cando for a for a player, young
player, middle, middle aged player, older player, what this organization spends
the time and effort to help playersprolong their career or better their career.
He wanted to be a part ofit. And he's here and he's reaping
the benefits of that right now.And it's great. You mentioned earlier,

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just a thought, the Major LeagueAll Star All Star Game. Here here,
here's the bottom line. The AllStar games are obsolete. They don't
matter anymore. You can argue withme for an hour. They just don't
matter now. They matter to theplayers if you have money associated with making
the team. Something like that.Innefetitive stand you're not You're not one that

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agreed with bud Selik that decided thatit was going to determine who had home
field advantage the All Star Game.You didn't agree with that, that decision
that affred well, you know,what he was doing was trying to give
it relevance, trying to force guysto compete. Truth of the matter is,
nobody wants to get hurt, uhTheir teams don't want them to get

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hurt. We don't need and youpointed out earlier Pete Rose crashing into Ray
Fosse and basically ending Foss's career inthe All Star Game. You don't need
that. You don't so, Imean, and now, because you can
see everything in social media, it'sreally they're they're not very relevant again except

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if you get a bonus. TheNBA is a joke. It has been
a joke. No one can denyit's a joke. The NHL All Star
Game is awful. It is justawful. I give the NFL credit.
They realized how pathetic that was andjust stopped it, just adopted. There's
no reason to even continue that.But baseball, I don't know. Maybe

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because it's such a long season,there's still a charm to it. Yeah,
I'm with you. And the waycan you make it, how can
you make it more incentive other thanyou know, what see tried to do
is make the winner the winner gets, you know, it gets the home
field. But that that didn't workout right because you know, like you

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said, guys didn't want to gethurt in the All Star Game, and
you're not gonna wear out a pitcherin an All Star game just so you
can, especially if you're not inthe race. Why are you gonna and
you made the All Star team,why are you gonna, you know,
grind out a picture and get impossiblyhurt in an All Star game when your
team is not even in a pennantrace. So that didn't work. Money

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doesn't work anymore. It used tobe the money incentive in the NFL,
where it was, you know,that little extra change when guys weren't making
forty million dollars a year. Thatwas cool. But that doesn't work anymore.
So I don't know how do youincentivize guys to play hard or at
least, you know, make itreally really competitive, Because I think you're

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right. I think baseball is thelast one of those. It's really competitive.
I think Fox does a very goodjob in the production. Keep in
mind, it's a TV show.I tell you that all the time,
they've got pictures miked while they're pitching. That's pretty cool. They've got guys
miked all over the place. Theyknow how to do what they make it
interesting. They understand production, sothey do a pretty good job. I

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would just ask you to consider thisduring this year's All Star breaking the NBA.
They talked to Rich Paul. Nowyou would think Rich Paul as one
of the top agents in sports.Certainly the NBA would always defend the players
always, and he was asked aboutthe All Star Game and he said,
we got a problem. These guysgotta understand what this means. Just from

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the perspective of sponsors. They're payingmoney, money that ultimately is shared with
the players. You can't not showjust go through the motions and run up
and down the court. People aregonna stop paying for that. And when
they stop paying, you make lessmoney. So you gotta give it what

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you got, or at least actlike you care. Because it's really bad.
But baseball I do still think there'sa charm to it. All Right,
Now, let's bring on Victor Brickfor the Daily Haikup at two and
Vic Good Afternoon. He's the hiddenhaught and soul of NBC's Olympic coverage.

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I'm Fred Rogan. I'm not reallyBick. I'm really not doing anything.
But you were back in the day. Yes, you thought you were in
Soshie or you were in Nagano,you were in somewhere, but really you

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were in secaucus, uh Stanford,Stanford, Connecticut. That's the caucus for
as you were the king of curling. Yes, I was North America's foremost
expert, at least the United Stateson curl. He is our Olympic flame,

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Rodney Pete pet Yes, sir,his eternal gold medal is baby,
oh, baby, olive. Everythingyou're looking on now, faster, higher,
stronger together, Rodney Fossio Gold Medalist, King Flavor. Y'all, well,

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look look at me. I'm stilla wreck from We don't want to
put him through that. We gethim be a wreck. My god.
You liked that one, didn't you. Rodney. That was a good one.
That that was one of the betterones right there. That was good.

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All right, we'll find out whyVic is a wreck next. Come
on, we desperately needed, desperately, desperately need that spirituality the show on
a Monday to kick off the week, right way, bring it back,
Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan, Victor, Break Jacobs, come on, right,

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Vick, You're right, Dodger fansfeeling you. Seven deep breaths.
It was a horrific meltdown in theMotor City, There's no doubt. But
again, when you're pitching staff isin tatas and its shattered, as the

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great Jaggo would say, you gotproblems. But still when you're up five
in the ninth, you're leading nineto four over the Tigers, and you'll

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lose eleven, nine and ten.Okay, that's devastating, But that's the
beauty of baseball, right you comeback the next day one out of one
sixty two. You let it go, and then the next day you're playing
a solid game. You know you'reup three to nothing in the first the

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way of Tay to ask. Hernandezdrives in a big run, Pie Has
drives in a run. The pitchingis relatively solid until you know the butchering
of the buns so upshot. Thisteam has so much character. Why do

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I dub them blue bamboo? Becausethey bend and they will not break.
Is that what you've dubbed them?Oh? Absolutely blue bamboo. And there's
a lot to be disconsolate about whathappened, you know, over the weekend
in Detroit, but what happened inOklahoma City. I was watching Clayton Kershaw

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on his rehab start in okay See, and he looked, he looked good.
His breaking pitch was sensational. Threehit List innings. M H.
So, I know there's a lotof negative energy right now, you know,
over what happened to List days inDetroit. But moving forward, and
we must move forward. They havea seven game lead in the West,

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okay. But the important thing isreinforcements are coming. Kursh look good,
Joe Kelly el Mariachi had one onescoreless inning in OKC. So those are
positive signs, no, sure,of course, big of course, all

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positive and mad love to Tascar.Hernandez getting the start at the Globe tomorrow,
the home run Derby tonight, sohe'd be slugging tonight. He's a
shot to win the one million dollars. That's the payoff. He's going up
against the polar Bear, Pete Alonso. You know Alonzo loves it. Oh,

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he loves it. He's looking forhe's looking for a third title.
The only other player who has wonthree home run derbys, you guys know,
the kid Ken Griffy Jr. Mm. Then you got Alex Baum from
the Phillies, Marcella Sooner from theBraves, the hometown favorite out of list

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Garcia from the Guardians, Jose Ramirez, from the Royals, Bobby Witch Jr.
And from the Orioles Gunner Henderson.I'm thinking, I'm thinking Hernandez has
a shot. Mm hm. Theyall got a shot. Big get hot,
get hot. Everybody got a shot. Who's got a shot In Nagoya,

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Day one of the Grand Sumo tournamentsin the books, Oh, lot
of upsets? Everybody who's upset?Who got upset? Who? Who?
I'm not gonna like the hear gotupset? Don't you tell me? Darren
the Fuji the yokozuna advanced, buthe was the only top tier RICHI wrestler

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who advanced in Nagoya. Everyone elsewas stunned. On the positive side,
Waka Taka Kage after the off dueto injury back in the dojo. He
missed a year, but he lostlost his opening match to Taka Refuji.
But his brother Waka Taka Haru wonhis first match on opening day over Abi.

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So that's good news, Haru.Huh. What's very sad is my
beloved bar Yugosakamoto and my favorites,the Bear Takayasu a injury on the first
day. I'll lah Max Muncy thesame type of injury m hm. So

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that's a bummer. I believe he'sgonna be out of the entire tournament.
No, that's a tough one.Vic, the whole tournament, I believe
so that nothing official yet, butit didn't look good man. You know
where that leads this too, Alwaysto the source thread. Yes, and

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this is a combination plate of BAShow and myself. Go some combination what
B show and VIC A little bitslight enhancement, wait for it, go
something like this. This high coolis for you on this Monday, July
the fifteenth, on the temple bellglowing at the globe. Another mammoth home

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run from te Oscar Hernandez. TheWay of Tay. I'm feeling you,
the Way of Tay, the dayof day. Yeah, Ronnie, thank
you, great job, Kevin.I really appreciate it. Let's see how
TA does tonight. And if hegets his way, Rodney will talk tomorrow. Ratto