August 20, 2025 • 37 mins
Eric Dickerson joins us to talk NFL Training Camp, Matthew Stafford's health, Shedeur Sanders and more. Mark Prior didnt completely rule out Ohtani pitching out of the bullpen in the postseason. Is Deshaun Foster making things harder on himself than he needs to when it comes to the media covering UCLA football?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Ellwic continue on Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete on AM five
to seventy l a sports two hour show for US
Today and wandering around the halls getting ready for the
NFL season ed Eric Dickerson. You know he'll do the
show with us on Monday afternoons. But he's bopping around now,
so Ed, thanks for hanging out here.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
For a bit, No problem, Freddy an't thank for you
and Rodney if Rodney's around, but you know not Rodney is.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
He's everywhere, like Sam.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Rodney is everywhere.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
He's like Sam Wua Fair. He's everywhere. He's everywhere. You know,
he has been everywhere lately. I know he's doing a
lot of national stuff. He you know, he's getting a
little big for his britches.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Is he getting for his bridges? Rodney got a famous wife,
you know, that's the big thing. So they're asking him
to do these things because of his wife. Yeah, you
got a famous wife. Don't tell right, don't tell right none,
see it is no we'll keep down between us. That
won't go over well. Eric, how has your summer been?
He's been good. Fred, You know, I've had a good summer.
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I haven't been done that much traveling a little bit.
I haven't been out the country, being to Cabo a
couple of times. I've been back and forth to Dallas.
A matter of fact, I'm going to Dallas next week
when it's really hot in Texas. We opened the learning
Center in April there in Dallas, and going back. We're
having a mixer on that I think the twenty seventh
of the mixer there in Dallas, Texas for the upcoming
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next year for our golferment there in Dallas, Texas.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
But I've been pretty busy.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, And during this time of year, if you can
think back, do you think about what it was like
getting ready for training camp.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I try not to think about that.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Fred, I don't think i'd like think by getting them checks,
like to think about those days going to get to checks. Man,
I'm gonna tell you some fred I hated training camp.
I mean I just hated it because it was so long.
I mean, for us, it was six weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
When I came into the league, we came in two
weeks before the veterans showed up, and then we had
another four weeks to say so my rookie year, we
were there for six weeks and these guys out there,
there were ten twelve days something like that, and they
can't prayed practice and passed like never. I mean, we
practiced full pads, you know, the pretty much the whole
time we were there. Maybe in the mornings we might
to have full paths home. But you know I don't
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miss that, you know, I really don't.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I think. I asked Willie God, I.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Was at the Raider reunion this weekend, and I asked
him to because you know, I was watching the Raiders
in the forty nine ers playing. I said, well, do
you miss it? He said, man, a little bit? Sometimes,
He asked me, do I say? I said, only thing
I missed and he be both agreed on this. We
missed the guys. You missed the camaraderie. You know that
this is so much fun as a team. You have
so much fun on a team. But training camp, Hell no,
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I don't miss that crap. What was your worst memory
of training camp? My worst memory? The one thing that
will always stand out to you, like, oh God, well,
uh I got hurt in training camp. Well I didn't
really get hurt. I kind of faked it a little bit.
What do you mean fake? I faked it? A little bit. Man,
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it was so hot one day. I won't forget it
was so hot. I'm like, I'm so sick.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Good it is.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And I came across the middle like on a on
a on a seam route, uh, to catch a pass,
and Nolan Cromwell kind of closed line me, not intentionally,
but kind of closed line me.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
And I just laid out.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I wasn't gonna get up, and you know, you kind
of open your eye people around to see, to look
and see what everybody doing. And man, everybody was panicked.
I like, oh, I'm gonna lay here. So I just
laid there. You didn't, yes, I did. I laid there.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait you're on the ground.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I'm on the ground.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
And then you just kind of opened your eye.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You can't open your eye, you like like a cart
you open your eye to kind of peep and see
what like it's what they what they're gonna do, right,
And the trainers come running over. You know you okay again?
And I'm like, I'm like, say, my neck can hardly
move all day. They brought the ambulance out. The doctors,
I'm serious. The doctors came. The whole, the whole gambit.
So you know, I'll never forget this. I didn't know
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this part. You know, they I went to the hospital.
They took to the hospital on the neck brace to
stretcher and everything, and uh, the guy said, John Robinson said,
I don't know about y'all, but I don't feel much
like practicing. Then let's just call her today. And it
was early too, and he said, man. And so the
next day I didn't know that in practice for a
couple days. Because of that, I I had to you know,
I have to fake that the whole the deal out right,
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He said, Man, can you do that again so we
can get out of practice. So that was my worst day.
It wasn't my best day. Man.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I hated I hated training.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
But Eric, did you know when you opened your eyes
and then suddenly saw everybody around you that you were okay?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I knew I was okay. I knew I was alright.
When I would have hit me, I was alright.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
It wasn't no big deal, but it was, you know,
it looked, it looked bad, but it didn't hurt.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
It didn't hurt.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Then I lay when I'm like, I said, man, is
I'm because I'm like as hot as hell out here,
and I peeped around. I'm like, everybody's panicking, and I'm like, oh, okay,
let me lay here for a minute and see how
this works out. And I got out of I got
out of practice, and practice for two days. Didn't run
it shorts, all right? What about fights? When you have
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a scrimma just against another team, there always seems to
be a fight.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Were you ever involved in any of those?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
No, we didn't.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
We didn't.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
We didn't fight the other teams. They gotta say, I've
never got into a fight with another team. I got into.
The biggest fight we had was we played the New
York Jets in New York. And before the game, before
that that week, matter of fact, John Robinson told the
offensive line and Jackie Slater, they say, look, if Gasnow
gets a sack, we're not having him do that that
stupid dance he does. You're not We're not gonna put
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up with that. Now. I didn't know what it meant,
but you know, he just you know, just letting you know.
We end up we know we're not gonna put up
with that dance. So sure enough, Gasno gets a sack
and he goes do to dance and Jackie pushes him
and a fight breaks out. A big fight breaks out
on the field. And now I still don't know what
happened to Jackiet. I think jack I don't know. I
think I think Jackie went to the sideline and I'm
just Joe. But a big fight broke out, and I'll
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never forget. I had a dB downfair. I was giving
it to him too, you know't hurt him when he
got to pass something I was. I was trying to
punch him and stuff. And uh Cleco, remember Big Joe, Man,
Joe Clecko came to it me. I took off, Man,
I ain't no food now he was. It's funny he
was chasing me. I'm like, now, you ain't getting me.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
And during those fights, does anybody ever get hurt?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Not really, man, you I mean think about you got
so much equipment on you can't really hurt it. Let's
the helmet comes off. Now I'll never forget what I was.
In Indianapolis, Brian Baldigger bought Brian Baldinger snatched the guy's
face mass off. Now think about that. One of the
one of the defensive linemen they got into a fight,
snatched his face mass Off. I'm like, my go he
snatched his face mass off and uh, you know, and
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hit him over to him on top of him with
the face with with with the mask. But that's you know,
that's you know, well, you know you don't like to
see your teammates fight, but you know, man, it's you know,
you out there practice and you frustrated, you're mad. Sometimes
you getting beat. You know, you're getting yelled at, and
then the fight breaks out.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
And when that happens, Eric, does it bond everybody? Does
it bring them closer? Or do people just resent each
other and get pissed off?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
No, well, I say this much. Let's just say like, uh,
who was it? The quarterbacks for some team just got
into a scuffle. I just read it a couple of
days ago with with the with the one of the
defensive line and I think he threw a touchdown pass
and he says something the defense line and I think
the lineman pushed him. See once, if you do that
for for push a quarterback or ranning back, the offense
is gonna gonna go go jump the defense, and vice versa.
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If a defensive player gets into it with the with
the offensive player, the defense is gonna jump the offensive player.
I mean they they are together, but they are two
separate units, so they will fight each other. I mean,
then they'll fight as a group. I mean you'll have
like two or three offensive lineman fighting two or three
defensive line and vice versa.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And at the end of it, is there a defined
winner in these fights?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
No, less somebody really get the ass whipped. I mean,
really get get a good ass whip and you're like, whoa,
we got knocked out.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
But I haven'ts I haven't seen that. No, you've never
seen anything like that. Okay, So then the countdown to
the season, because the Rams in camp, the Chargers in camp, Uh,
at this point, they've played preseason games. At what point,
and back then you were in camp, you said for
like three months, but you know it's much shorter now.
At what point do you say, I've had enough camp,
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let's go to work.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Well, you know, I mean I felt like back even
back then, I felt like three weeks or two weeks
was enough. You kind of get it because see, we
played in the preseason. I mean a lot of these
teams don't play their starters. I played. I played in
every preseason game. You know, unless I would, you know,
got hurt or something. I didn't play when my rookie year,
I got hurt the first preseason game against San Diego Chargers.
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Hurt my back and I didn't play the next week.
But other than that, I played, even not my Swendy
Hear a run for two thousand yards.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I play.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
You played the first quarter, sometimes the second quarter, or
they put you in maybe in the third and fourth,
you know, to get you you know, you got to
get acclimated to getting hit. So it was it was
a different time. I mean you just kind of know,
like were read lesten, let's start this season.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And I like it.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You know, they played three preseason games. They should play
maybe one or two and get it over and just
start the season, you know, just get it. But you know,
those owners, that's money they can make. They don't have
to pay the players.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, yeah, so they play the games. But of course
the league wants to go to another game anyway.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Well try it.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
If it was left to the NFL, they would have
twenty five games if they could do it. I'm serious,
I'm telling it. They don't care about them players. They
kept about that money. That's what it's all about. I
get it. I mean, but your body can't take it. Man,
your body just cannot take that beating. I mean it's
a people. You know, you sit at home and you
watch football and you're like, oh, man, what come you
doing this? You're not playing like he's numbally play well?
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You don't know Fred Usually from let's just say sometimes
from week one, but from week probably three on, you've
got something going on. You've hurt something. I mean by
week four or five, for sure you hurt it. So
you plan hurt the whole season. No one plays injury free.
Maybe a quarterback kind of a little bit, but no
one plays injury free the whole season. It's doesn't work
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like that.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
See. And that's what's concerning me about Matthew Stafford in
the situation with the Rams, because obviously he's not practiced
a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
He's doing it now.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
He's got the bad back, he had an epidural, and
my concern Eric is not will he be able to
go out there and play?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I think he'll make it.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I think he'll be able to go out there and play,
but with this lingering issue, one hit and he could
be done for the year.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Am I wrong? When I when I have to sit
right for it. I mean, because you know, in practice,
they're not hitting him in these little scrimmages. They're not
hitting him in a real game. They're gonna hit you
and take you down. We don't we don't care. They
don't care about Matt Saford. They don't care about the rams.
They want to. They want to, they want to beat
you at all costs. To me, now this is just
and then I'm gonna go back you talking about the quarterbacks.
Matt Stafford. I don't see. This is my opinion. Why
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didn't we draft? Should do a Sanders?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
We could have gotten cheap.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Why didn't we draft? We need a backup, We needed
a backup quarterback.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
But I see we got We've got out, we've got
got Garoppolo, and we've got the other kid's name from
from Georgia. He seemed like doing a pretty good job.
Yeah right now. But I thought that that would have
been him, since we we talked about Matt Stafford possibly,
you know, this would be his last year. If he
got hurt, it's just throwing throw them into the mix.
It It wouldn't have hurt anything. I mean, it wouldn't
have cost you with a fourth round pick or something like that.
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But you're right. One thing about about a back, and
I side have a bad back, a back injury. Fred,
you didn't even have to get hit the cap of
back to church your back. If you got a bad back,
I won't never get a super Bowl in Dallas, Texas,
whatever year that was.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I gett in.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Either shower, reached for a towel hanging on the rack,
and my back would pop. And I'm like, oh my gosh,
but three months my back was messed up. You heard
it pop. You heard it pop, just know it would pop.
And I'm like, you've got to it's just reaching for
a towel. I mean, that's how. That's how. Anybody who's
listening to this backs they know. Man, if you got
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a back, it is so debilitating for it. It's no fun.
You You just think everything else feels good for my back.
You're like, if I just matter, just had another back.
But it don't work like that, man, And I'm trying
to play football with the back. It's impossible. You can't
do it.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
No, Well, the problem is you can't go anywhere without
your back, right, It goes with you everywhere. So if
it's bad you're bad. Like you hear it, that goes
everywhere with you. You're right, you know, But about your doors, Sanders,
Here's what I think happened. I think people and team
shot away from him just to get away from the noise.
I think he became a spectacle, quite frankly, and I
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don't think the NFL functions that way.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
They're not about that.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
You know, that might work in basketball, but it doesn't
work in the NFL. And somebody making a lot of
noise coming in wearing a Rolex when he played that
kind of stuff, I don't think it flies well. And
maybe from a RAMS perspective, if they looked at it
and said, we don't need this headache. I mean, I
don't care how good he is. How good could he
be given the noise he's making.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Well, I disagree with that. If you if you're good,
you know they'll make exceptions. And you know that. I mean,
he's not on his dad's level. If he was, If
it was his dad, his dad made a lot of
noise coming in, a lot of noise, Rolex gold, the
dance and everything. I mean, but his dad was a
different kind of athlete, you know. I just feel like
and I'll tell you as much of what and what
I heard from someone that's in the NFL that the
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NFL put it told other don't draft him, do not
draft him. We're gonna make we're gonna make an example
out of him. And this came from a very good source,
a very good source. And he said that I won't
say who. Somebody called the Cleveland Browns and said, don't
do that. Draft really, yep, draft him, don't don't. Don't
do that because they weren't no drafted either, They weren't
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gonna drafted. They were forced into drafting drafting him because
because somebody made a call to them.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Said it's cause you know, and.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I said, when I say this is a this is
an NFL side source for sure, you know, so this
is not this is not here said look one thing
about it is. And I just said, you know, they
don't like when when when when guys have brand, especially
black players, you know, and that's mostly us with the brand,
you know, we kind of some guys are flashing and
all that kind of stuff. They don't like that. They
don't like that this kid pred I don't think you
knew this. He had already made seventeen million dollars buy
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up from a card deal that he already signed a
card deal, yes, seventeen million ready for that, then had
another fourteen I think from uh was it a shoot
Nike or some some shoe deal. So he was good
with money wise. But I know he wants to play
in the National Football League for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
So how does he do that? I mean, Cleveland picked him.
I find it fascinating. Eric, you're saying somebody even called
the brons and said, don't do that. Yeah, somebody somebody
called him. Brown said, So what was the objective? He
doesn't get picked. He's an undrafted That's exactly. That's exactly
what's gonna happen. They were gonna have him and he
was not gonna get drafted to basically show show you
this is what happens when you when you do this.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I mean, look, you know, mcfred, the NFL got all
kind of power, they do all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
You know that and I know it too. But no,
they were they were not gonna draft him. And like
I said, when I said, I came from a good source.
It came from a very very good source. He said
they were gonna draft him. I like, because I when
I saw it, when he went to the second one,
I said, oh, I said, I said it out loud.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
They're not gonna draft him. They're gonna make an example
out of him. I knew it.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Do you think so the guy that they d after,
the quarterback they drafted ahead of him, he wasn't as
good as Shador? He even said it. I mean, how
do you draft a guy that you know that's not
better than the guy that you drafted after?
Speaker 5 (15:09):
That?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Though it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Do you think Shador knew they wanted to make an
example out of him?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I don't think he realized to the extent that the
NFL would go to make an example out of him. No,
I don't think he knew that. I didn't think his
dad knew the extent they would go to make an
example out of him. I mean, but you know, the
NFL has their own way of doing things, and it
is what it is.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I mean that honestly, that that's pretty serious.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
It's very serious, Fred, It's just serious. I mean, look, look,
the NFL, man, man, you know how I know. Look,
the NFL is gonna make it by making money. They
want to have this great image that they say that
they treat the players right there. They're the good guys,
and in a lot of ways they're not the good guy.
You know, they're not call like I see it. I mean,
they've done some good things, I'll put it to you
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like that, they've done some very good things. But they've
done some very heinous things, just like you know, and
I hate to go back to it, just like the race,
the race norming thing.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
You know that that's horrible. I mean it's it's horrible,
and they admit it.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
They did it. So you can't. You can't. You can't
have it both ways. You can't. You it's that you
can't sit on the fence. I mean, you you one
way or the other. I mean, you're trying to do
the right thing. Look, I could see if your door
Sanders was a real problem, like had you know, say
out of games of Lakers, say assault, fighting, drugs, all that,
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all that kind of stuff. But he's not that kind
of He's not that kind of kid you might not
like because he's a flashy like his dad. Like his
dad was flashy, just like his pops. But that but
you gotta stand for it. That was back in the
in the eighties, so now you know, stuff is more.
It's a it's a bigger light on thing. You have
social media, so it makes you even bigger. So for sure,
you know, teams don't like that kind of stuff and
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the NFL doesn't.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, maybe you know his dad was flashy, no question,
and maybe teams are looking at it like, uh not
for our quarterback though, Uh huh. You're you're gonna bring
a lot of attention to us, unwarranted and unwanted attention.
We're gonna have to deal with the fact that you're
not playing. You're going to become the story and we
don't want that.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, I mean I can understand that too, But you
know what, you know what it comes down to Fred
winning football games. We don't care if you if you
want to wear a donkey head, you know, coming to
the stadium. If we winning, we could with it. He
put that donkey head on again, you know, if we
win it.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Uh, Eric, It's interesting when you talk about this because
then we kind of touched on it in the past.
Of all the leagues, NFL players have the worst and
they get hit the most. Oh my gosh. The funny
thing is I just talked to some basketball players.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I did it.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I did an interview with Uh. I can't think of
the show. Uh the basketball players. I can't think of
the name of the show. Got him he played for
the Lakers. Gosh, anyway, I can't think of the name
of the show. I did it. Did it last week?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
And Uh?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
He asked me, sir Eric, he said, let me ask
you a question. Uh, what is y'all's pinsion?
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Like?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I said, it's a joke. I said, let me ask
you this. Do y'all have health care? He said, yeah,
if we have health care for the rest of our lives,
our kids have health care to their twenty seven years
I think to twenty seven years. To say, I think
twenty seven years old. I'm like, wow, yeah, full health care,
I said. We have no health care Like me, when
I retired, I had no health care. I have to
pay for my health care, I said.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
In the NFL, the kids have health care until after
five years after retired. So if you retired thirty, you
got to thirty five. Now, Fred, are you gonna have
to start having problems at thirty five? Now? Think about that. No,
you're not. You're gonna start having problems later in life.
I mean, I mean our our Players Association as a joke.
You saw it just happened with Lord Howell. I mean
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it's a joke. I mean Fred Goodell ran over to
Marris Smith and I to me, I'm so glad that
Gruden said. I feel like Gruden his big lip ass.
I can't stand his ass. I'm just gonna say that
big lip. I thought it was funny with the mission
lip I said. I say, he ain't lying. That's like
somebody saying we're eric you with your bald head ass.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
What am I gonna say? Oh, I'm not bald headed.
I can't. I got I'm ball headed. If you got
big lips, you got big lips. It is what it is.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
NBA guys are gonna start making like seventy million dollars
a year. Seventy million dollars a year.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Hey, I don't.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I don't begrudge anybody getting paid. I think everybody should
make as much as they can. NBA guys making seventy
million dollars a year. Football guys granted, play fewer games,
but it's far more dangerous and at any moment career ending.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Does that seem a little out of whack to you?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
What do you think.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
NBA guys make that kind of money and football players don't.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
What do you think, Fred? Of course it's not a whack.
But you know, the the NFL can get away with it. Fred.
They because we don't have a good our union sucks.
That's why they do it. Look, you know the NFL.
The NFL is not gonna come in one day and say, man,
you know what, I feel bad. Man, you know what,
we're gonna start paying these players right. You know we've
been messing over them. They're not gonna ever do that.
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You have to force it. You have to stand up.
You have to stand together. The NFL players will not
stand together. You have to have those quarterbacks, have to
have the top guys. And they're not gonna do it.
It just doesn't work like that. And it's sad that
that happens. But that's just the reality. I mean, and
I always say this, Look look at it like this, Fred.
If I can pay you seventy million dollars, Fred, and
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I can pay another guy twenty five million, I can
pay another guy fifteen, I can pay another guy eight
on the basketball whatever, and I'm paying all these say my,
say my, let's just say my salary, my my my
for my team, I'm paying salaries. And say, let's just
say I'm gonna use the number. Let's say five hundred
million dollar. Let's use that number, all right. How much
money do you think I'm making? If I can do that,
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that's the owner you think I'm making. You think I'm
making like like like two hundred million dollars over absolutely
not fair. We're making billions, billions. I mean the NFL,
the NFL. I remember we had a license in the NFL.
This was years ago. And the guy that was over
the licensed, he was may Faker, Rodger Gooday was over
licensed at that time. He wouldn't even commissioner. But there's
another guy that who were dealing with, and he said,
(20:58):
I'm gonna tell you something. Say, you don't even notice
the NFL makes more money than any all sports combine Baseball,
say maybe except soccer becausist International, he said, Baseball, Basketball, NASCAR,
all of them. He said, they cannot touch the NFL.
He told me that that's been about twelve or fourteen
ft fifteen years ago. Now think about how much money
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they make now, Fred, I mean they they if the NFL.
You remember the NFL was a non profit for ers. Now
how you get away with that? Tell me how you
get being a non profit that? That doesn't make sense? No, no,
it doesn't.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
No.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
But hey, you know, the NFL is a is a
is A is a money machine. It's all about the
money if I can afford. When I tell people, the
guys don't know. I said, you know, I said, what
is the what is the was it? Was it silver
for the NBA? The commissioner, Yeah, Adam Adam Syrah.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
What does he? I say? They say he makes like
twenty five million dollars. I said, they'll make sixty four.
They were like what, like yeah, Like wait.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
A minute, I'm like, he makes high SA he makes
sixty four million dollars. Think about its red. He makes
sixty four million dollars a year, maybe more than that.
But the thing about it, he didn't pay for anything.
He got the NFL Black card, you know whatever card
they use, you know, the car.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
To get hit. Everything's on the NFL. Everything.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
So think, if I'm making sixty four million dollars, is
it a player making sixty four million dollars in the
National Football League?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
No. No, So he's the highest paid none player in
the in the in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
So but you can make this argument.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
You know, he is overseeing the business and he's in
charge of all profit things like that, how much money
they make, how they operate. And maybe he's just hitting
his targets, which tells you they're making a lot of money.
If he's hitting targets and making sixty four million.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Dollars a year. Yeah, but still he don't pet it.
He don't take one hit. No, he don't put on
one uniform. He probably don't even well he might see
if he played football. But you know, I still think
it's it's not right that that a commissioner makes more
than the than the players make. And the thing is
his stuff is all guaranteed. Why can't the players be guaranteed.
I mean, it's not gonna hurt them. Even if a
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guy goes down, it's not gonna hurt them. I mean seriously.
But the reason they're not guaranteed because our union sucks.
I didn't blame the NFL for that. I blame I
blame our union leaders for that. We don't have guaranteed contracts.
That's that's just ridiculous. And every sport, even I think
hockey has guaranteed contracts. We don't have guaranteed contracts.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Well, Eric, nice, nice job today, Thanks for coming in,
Thanks for hanging out.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Are you getting ready for Mondays again?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I've read I'm ready. Can't you tell them I'm gonna
get them getting warmed up already?
Speaker 4 (23:35):
You're warmed up?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
All right, we'll we'll see them in the NFL season
kicks off. Thanks for hanging Eric.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Okay, no problem.
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(24:06):
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Some thought he should be the closer. We'll talk about that.
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Speaker 4 (24:46):
We're joining us and giving us.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
His time as we get ready for the NFL season
coming up. Eric is not short on opinions, Fred, is
he No, He tells it like it is.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
No.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
He has spoken out against the union for years. And
by the way, rightful, Rodney, you a one hundred percent
at the very least, at the very least. And I
don't understand. Didn't understand it when I was playing when
older guys would say it. But don't understand of all
the leagues, why the NFL with all the money that
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they're making, with all the money that the owners, even
if the owners just stepped up and did it, let's
call it a day. But there is no lifetime healthcare
for NFL players, even if you've played four plus years,
which is what you qualify to get your benefits. But
guys that play ten years, twenty years in the league,
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there is no lifetime healthcare benefits for that person or
their family, which every other league. Every other league has,
and it's ridiculous that football doesn't have. It's really a crime,
right to be honest with you, it's a flat out crime.
It is a flat out crime, and you know it's
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never changed. Maybe down the road it will Otani goes
tonight for the Dodgers in Colorado. Here's something people have
kicked around. What about using Otani as a reliever? What
about using O'tani as a closer?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
How about that? How much of a difference would that make?
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Well.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Mark Pryor was on with Dan Patrick this morning and
they actually brought that up.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
It's been discussed, and it's really understanding kind of the
rules of him coming in as a reliever and knowing
that because of the world the way it's set up
right now, as a starter, he can come out of
the game and still maintain as a DH, but he
comes in as a reliever. You got to find that
line of where hopefully the game is because you can't
put him in in the sixth and then take him
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out as a pitcher in seventh and keep him in
as a DH. So it would have to be a
situation where it was probably we think the game's over
and he's closing, or be okay with him not coming
not hitting anymore.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
So that would be really the only scenario.
Speaker 8 (26:59):
Can I see it, absolutely, But it would probably be
closer to the back end when the game's you know,
kind of on the line, and it would be over
after he's done.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
So it is something Rodney the Dodgers have kicked around.
I think Bill Plash he's even written about it. Maybe
he should come in and be the closer. But now
you understand why that doesn't Oh yeah, yeah, But that's
the only way it works. As he just said, right,
if he comes in in the seventh, then the rule
state that he comes in in the seventh, unless he
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stays in and pitches the eighth and the ninth. He
would have to come out as a hitter. Right if
somebody else comes in to relieve him in the eighth
after he struck everybody out in the seventh, then he
wouldn't be eligible to hit. So you don't ever want
to take the bat out of his hand because you
never Knowesacally, the way the Dodgers are playing away baseball
is played that if you're down three runs or you're
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shutting it down in the seventh and the ninth, the
game could be tied up, and all of a sudden,
where's the bat that you need it? Where's Otani's bat
in the tenth or strainings. Uh, you don't want to
you don't want to be put into that situation. I
think there was another team that did that, I believe.
I think it was Atlanta. Michael Harris, who's on fire
right now, is killing it. He got a big hit
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or a home run, a big hit, and it's like
the seventh inning, they were down and they took him
out of the game, and all of a sudden they
started to come back and made it a game, and
his spot was coming up in the lineup again in
the ninth, and they didn't have him. They didn't have
him the guy struck out that replaced him. So it's
(28:33):
it's it's interesting. I mean, I know they they they
they they changed the rules for him as a starting pitcher,
right as a starting pitcher that he can stay in
the game and in d H. But as a reliever,
he's not gonna be able to do that. So the
only way you could see him as a reliever with
that scenario is you're up by three runs in the
ninth and trying to close the game out. Yeah, that
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would be it. Otherwise you would never want to lose
his back. So that answers the question. Yeah, what if
they what if he struggles in the night they're up
to and you want him to close, and all of
a sudden, the game gets tied and he's he can't
find a plate, and you you you gotta go get him.
Do you go get him or you gotta let him go?
When would he hit in the order he's coming up,
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he's coming up two and two the next inning, second
hit or the next inning. But he give he gave
up two runs in the ninth, and and it's uh,
there's a guy on second and third. Now he's done.
You gotta go get him. M Well, wait a minute.
Is the game tied? Now you're up by one? Okay,
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come second and third, one out, one out, second and third.
They they moved it to second and third, one out
in the ninth, and he's given up three straight hits
and now they're now the opposing team has second and
third with one out. He's coming up to hit second
in the bottom of the ninth.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
What do you do.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Second and third, one out? Yep, And no chance of
apple play. Sack sackfly ties it up second and third, yep,
one out and no chance of a double play.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Ball, Now, M.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Got it.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
You know what I guess. I guess you gotta let
him go one more. You gotta let him go one more.
You gotta let him go one more. Maybe what you do? Okay,
So he walks its loaded. I was gonna say, let's
put the guy in first base.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Now there's one out in the bases loaded, and you're
up by one. Yeah, and he's gonna hit second in
the bottom of the inning.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
So now you think to yourself, Okay, if we bring
in whoever and they get two outs, oh, Tony doesn't
even have to hit.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
We win.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
If they turned the double play or you get two outs, right,
you got a sacrifly fly ties it though. That's okay,
that's okay, because in the bottom of the inning you
have Otani hit it.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
No you don't.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
No, you haven't taken them out. Leave him in, Leave
him in. So he's in with the bases loaded. I
leave him in. He goes one more, Okay, he keeps
saying one more. So you said, let he goes one more.
With second, and third, and now he Now we we
walk the guy. The bases are loaded, he gets loaded
one out. You leave him in one more time, yep,
go for the double play. Okay, sacrifice fly. So now
(31:42):
runners are on first and second, two out, second, two outs,
games tied, leave him in. Okay, Now we need his bat. Okay,
here's the deal. Bases base hit, but they hold the
runner at at They hold the runner at third, still
two no base hit. Runners at second, third, one out
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base there's two outs because no sacrifice fly. Wait wait, wait, no,
I'm giving you a different scenario. Okay, all right, go ahead.
So runners at second, third, one out, rights hit, base
hit to the left field, hard hit, ball to left field.
Run scores to tie it up, but they hold the
runner at third. Now you got first and third, one out,
(32:28):
tie ball game. They hold him. They don't chance it.
They hold him up. Tie ball game, first and third,
one out. Well, at this point you definitely need him
to hit. He stays in.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
So what point do you not need him to hit?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
You're screwed. Now you're screwed. He's gonna stay in.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
The only way you don't need him to head is
if he retires aside and the game is over. If
you put him in, he's got to stay in now.
Now if he was hitting eight of the different story, Yeah, right,
but you're saying he's hitting second, he'shting second, and you
have no choice.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
You have no choice.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
All right.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Look, we got to get out of here pretty quick.
But we were talking about something earlier, and we have
an update on that when we come back. Remember we
were talking about how to deal with the LA media. Yeah,
the way to you know, work on things and present
yourself in a certain way.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Why do we have an update coming up?
Speaker 7 (33:33):
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Speaker 1 (33:54):
Wip Yeah, down to home Stretch, Rodney, Pete, Fred Rogan,
come on, Freddy talk to me.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Let's do this stuff happening? Yes, So we talked about coaches.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
And the way they deal with the media here in
Los Angeles, earlier I mentioned to Sean Foster. I said, well,
you know, he seems pretty approachable. He understands that you
have to communicate with the media. Ironically, just about forty
five minutes ago he had an exchange with the media.
So here's UCLA coach to Sean Foster. Can you explain
(34:26):
kind of the more restrictive media policies if you have
been put in place recently with no players today, no interview,
no feature interviews.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Yeah, you guys film or practice and put it online.
And if I was an opponent for another team, I'd
look right at your guys and stuff and see what's
going on. So for them not to get a beat
on Tino or our dept or anything that's going on.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
That's why it's close. Ever interviews, player interviews, that's the.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
Same thing because if they come over interview, then you
guys are going to ask me, are they a starter?
Are they this?
Speaker 7 (34:57):
Are they that I'm trying to get like human interest
feature type stuff?
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (35:01):
I know it's tough, but you know we want to
win games.
Speaker 7 (35:04):
Do you worry about the marketing impact for the program
at all?
Speaker 6 (35:07):
No, I'll let you guys have all of that. I
don't not worry about the marketing because all the marketing does.
If you win games, your.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Marketing, well, you look at it like that, you better
win games. Hard line Stance by Deshaun Foster. Yep, if
you look at it like that, you're better win games,
because that's not gonna uh, that's gonna win any.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Friends in the media.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
And at the end of the day, because they asked
about like human interest or feature stories on an individual
and he was like, no, the same thing, same thing.
You get too much information that can go to our opponents.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Country. Well, I get that.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
I get that, and he wants to win and he
wants to turn that program around. But I have to
tell you, there gotta be some give and take with
that because if you if you go that hard line
of a stance, it could backfire on you. It could backfire.
You got to give access to the media. I get
(36:06):
not filming practice. There's a there's rules, And it used
to be when I played that there was a certain
time limit that the media had access to practice, and
then they like thirty minutes of practice, and then they
kicked the media out and you couldn't film anything, you
couldn't shoot anything. And that's when you got into your
real ex's and o's a practice. I don't know why
it's changed. I don't know why you can't still do
(36:27):
that because you don't have to allow the media to
film the bulk of your practice or the meat of
your practice. But the first fifteen to twenty minutes has
always been open and then you go from there. Yep,
So you better win because here's what happens. If you
don't win, Oh, and you don't talk to the media,
it's going to get way. It will make come to
(36:49):
its own conclusions, and they're always very unpleasant. Yes they are, Ronnie,
great job, Thank you. Kevin appreciate it as well. Hey, Rodney,
over off tomorrow. Dodgers have a day game, so we'll
talk Friday.
Ellwic continue on Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete on AM five
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Today and wandering around the halls getting ready for the
NFL season ed Eric Dickerson. You know he'll do the
show with us on Monday afternoons. But he's bopping around now,
so Ed, thanks for hanging out here.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
For a bit, No problem, Freddy an't thank for you
and Rodney if Rodney's around, but you know not Rodney is.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
He's everywhere, like Sam.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Rodney is everywhere.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
He's like Sam Wua Fair. He's everywhere. He's everywhere. You know,
he has been everywhere lately. I know he's doing a
lot of national stuff. He you know, he's getting a
little big for his britches.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Is he getting for his bridges? Rodney got a famous wife,
you know, that's the big thing. So they're asking him
to do these things because of his wife. Yeah, you
got a famous wife. Don't tell right, don't tell right none,
see it is no we'll keep down between us. That
won't go over well. Eric, how has your summer been?
He's been good. Fred, You know, I've had a good summer.
(00:56):
I haven't been done that much traveling a little bit.
I haven't been out the country, being to Cabo a
couple of times. I've been back and forth to Dallas.
A matter of fact, I'm going to Dallas next week
when it's really hot in Texas. We opened the learning
Center in April there in Dallas, and going back. We're
having a mixer on that I think the twenty seventh
of the mixer there in Dallas, Texas for the upcoming
(01:19):
next year for our golferment there in Dallas, Texas.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
But I've been pretty busy.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, And during this time of year, if you can
think back, do you think about what it was like
getting ready for training camp.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I try not to think about that.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Fred, I don't think i'd like think by getting them checks,
like to think about those days going to get to checks. Man,
I'm gonna tell you some fred I hated training camp.
I mean I just hated it because it was so long.
I mean, for us, it was six weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
When I came into the league, we came in two
weeks before the veterans showed up, and then we had
another four weeks to say so my rookie year, we
were there for six weeks and these guys out there,
there were ten twelve days something like that, and they
can't prayed practice and passed like never. I mean, we
practiced full pads, you know, the pretty much the whole
time we were there. Maybe in the mornings we might
to have full paths home. But you know I don't
(02:08):
miss that, you know, I really don't.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I think. I asked Willie God, I.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Was at the Raider reunion this weekend, and I asked
him to because you know, I was watching the Raiders
in the forty nine ers playing. I said, well, do
you miss it? He said, man, a little bit? Sometimes,
He asked me, do I say? I said, only thing
I missed and he be both agreed on this. We
missed the guys. You missed the camaraderie. You know that
this is so much fun as a team. You have
so much fun on a team. But training camp, Hell no,
(02:32):
I don't miss that crap. What was your worst memory
of training camp? My worst memory? The one thing that
will always stand out to you, like, oh God, well,
uh I got hurt in training camp. Well I didn't
really get hurt. I kind of faked it a little bit.
What do you mean fake? I faked it? A little bit. Man,
(02:54):
it was so hot one day. I won't forget it
was so hot. I'm like, I'm so sick.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Good it is.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And I came across the middle like on a on
a on a seam route, uh, to catch a pass,
and Nolan Cromwell kind of closed line me, not intentionally,
but kind of closed line me.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
And I just laid out.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I wasn't gonna get up, and you know, you kind
of open your eye people around to see, to look
and see what everybody doing. And man, everybody was panicked.
I like, oh, I'm gonna lay here. So I just
laid there. You didn't, yes, I did. I laid there.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait you're on the ground.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I'm on the ground.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
And then you just kind of opened your eye.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You can't open your eye, you like like a cart
you open your eye to kind of peep and see
what like it's what they what they're gonna do, right,
And the trainers come running over. You know you okay again?
And I'm like, I'm like, say, my neck can hardly
move all day. They brought the ambulance out. The doctors,
I'm serious. The doctors came. The whole, the whole gambit.
So you know, I'll never forget this. I didn't know
(03:53):
this part. You know, they I went to the hospital.
They took to the hospital on the neck brace to
stretcher and everything, and uh, the guy said, John Robinson said,
I don't know about y'all, but I don't feel much
like practicing. Then let's just call her today. And it
was early too, and he said, man. And so the
next day I didn't know that in practice for a
couple days. Because of that, I I had to you know,
I have to fake that the whole the deal out right,
(04:15):
He said, Man, can you do that again so we
can get out of practice. So that was my worst day.
It wasn't my best day. Man.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I hated I hated training.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
But Eric, did you know when you opened your eyes
and then suddenly saw everybody around you that you were okay?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I knew I was okay. I knew I was alright.
When I would have hit me, I was alright.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
It wasn't no big deal, but it was, you know,
it looked, it looked bad, but it didn't hurt.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
It didn't hurt.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Then I lay when I'm like, I said, man, is
I'm because I'm like as hot as hell out here,
and I peeped around. I'm like, everybody's panicking, and I'm like, oh, okay,
let me lay here for a minute and see how
this works out. And I got out of I got
out of practice, and practice for two days. Didn't run
it shorts, all right? What about fights? When you have
(04:59):
a scrimma just against another team, there always seems to
be a fight.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Were you ever involved in any of those?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
No, we didn't.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
We didn't.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
We didn't fight the other teams. They gotta say, I've
never got into a fight with another team. I got into.
The biggest fight we had was we played the New
York Jets in New York. And before the game, before
that that week, matter of fact, John Robinson told the
offensive line and Jackie Slater, they say, look, if Gasnow
gets a sack, we're not having him do that that
stupid dance he does. You're not We're not gonna put
(05:25):
up with that. Now. I didn't know what it meant,
but you know, he just you know, just letting you know.
We end up we know we're not gonna put up
with that dance. So sure enough, Gasno gets a sack
and he goes do to dance and Jackie pushes him
and a fight breaks out. A big fight breaks out
on the field. And now I still don't know what
happened to Jackiet. I think jack I don't know. I
think I think Jackie went to the sideline and I'm
just Joe. But a big fight broke out, and I'll
(05:47):
never forget. I had a dB downfair. I was giving
it to him too, you know't hurt him when he
got to pass something I was. I was trying to
punch him and stuff. And uh Cleco, remember Big Joe, Man,
Joe Clecko came to it me. I took off, Man,
I ain't no food now he was. It's funny he
was chasing me. I'm like, now, you ain't getting me.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
And during those fights, does anybody ever get hurt?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Not really, man, you I mean think about you got
so much equipment on you can't really hurt it. Let's
the helmet comes off. Now I'll never forget what I was.
In Indianapolis, Brian Baldigger bought Brian Baldinger snatched the guy's
face mass off. Now think about that. One of the
one of the defensive linemen they got into a fight,
snatched his face mass Off. I'm like, my go he
snatched his face mass off and uh, you know, and
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hit him over to him on top of him with
the face with with with the mask. But that's you know,
that's you know, well, you know you don't like to
see your teammates fight, but you know, man, it's you know,
you out there practice and you frustrated, you're mad. Sometimes
you getting beat. You know, you're getting yelled at, and
then the fight breaks out.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
And when that happens, Eric, does it bond everybody? Does
it bring them closer? Or do people just resent each
other and get pissed off?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
No, well, I say this much. Let's just say like, uh,
who was it? The quarterbacks for some team just got
into a scuffle. I just read it a couple of
days ago with with the with the one of the
defensive line and I think he threw a touchdown pass
and he says something the defense line and I think
the lineman pushed him. See once, if you do that
for for push a quarterback or ranning back, the offense
is gonna gonna go go jump the defense, and vice versa.
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If a defensive player gets into it with the with
the offensive player, the defense is gonna jump the offensive player.
I mean they they are together, but they are two
separate units, so they will fight each other. I mean,
then they'll fight as a group. I mean you'll have
like two or three offensive lineman fighting two or three
defensive line and vice versa.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And at the end of it, is there a defined
winner in these fights?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
No, less somebody really get the ass whipped. I mean,
really get get a good ass whip and you're like, whoa,
we got knocked out.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
But I haven'ts I haven't seen that. No, you've never
seen anything like that. Okay, So then the countdown to
the season, because the Rams in camp, the Chargers in camp, Uh,
at this point, they've played preseason games. At what point,
and back then you were in camp, you said for
like three months, but you know it's much shorter now.
At what point do you say, I've had enough camp,
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let's go to work.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Well, you know, I mean I felt like back even
back then, I felt like three weeks or two weeks
was enough. You kind of get it because see, we
played in the preseason. I mean a lot of these
teams don't play their starters. I played. I played in
every preseason game. You know, unless I would, you know,
got hurt or something. I didn't play when my rookie year,
I got hurt the first preseason game against San Diego Chargers.
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Hurt my back and I didn't play the next week.
But other than that, I played, even not my Swendy
Hear a run for two thousand yards.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I play.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
You played the first quarter, sometimes the second quarter, or
they put you in maybe in the third and fourth,
you know, to get you you know, you got to
get acclimated to getting hit. So it was it was
a different time. I mean you just kind of know,
like were read lesten, let's start this season.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And I like it.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You know, they played three preseason games. They should play
maybe one or two and get it over and just
start the season, you know, just get it. But you know,
those owners, that's money they can make. They don't have
to pay the players.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, yeah, so they play the games. But of course
the league wants to go to another game anyway.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Well try it.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
If it was left to the NFL, they would have
twenty five games if they could do it. I'm serious,
I'm telling it. They don't care about them players. They
kept about that money. That's what it's all about. I
get it. I mean, but your body can't take it. Man,
your body just cannot take that beating. I mean it's
a people. You know, you sit at home and you
watch football and you're like, oh, man, what come you
doing this? You're not playing like he's numbally play well?
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You don't know Fred Usually from let's just say sometimes
from week one, but from week probably three on, you've
got something going on. You've hurt something. I mean by
week four or five, for sure you hurt it. So
you plan hurt the whole season. No one plays injury free.
Maybe a quarterback kind of a little bit, but no
one plays injury free the whole season. It's doesn't work
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like that.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
See. And that's what's concerning me about Matthew Stafford in
the situation with the Rams, because obviously he's not practiced
a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
He's doing it now.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
He's got the bad back, he had an epidural, and
my concern Eric is not will he be able to
go out there and play?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I think he'll make it.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I think he'll be able to go out there and play,
but with this lingering issue, one hit and he could
be done for the year.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Am I wrong? When I when I have to sit
right for it. I mean, because you know, in practice,
they're not hitting him in these little scrimmages. They're not
hitting him in a real game. They're gonna hit you
and take you down. We don't we don't care. They
don't care about Matt Saford. They don't care about the rams.
They want to. They want to, they want to beat
you at all costs. To me, now this is just
and then I'm gonna go back you talking about the quarterbacks.
Matt Stafford. I don't see. This is my opinion. Why
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didn't we draft? Should do a Sanders?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
We could have gotten cheap.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Why didn't we draft? We need a backup, We needed
a backup quarterback.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
But I see we got We've got out, we've got
got Garoppolo, and we've got the other kid's name from
from Georgia. He seemed like doing a pretty good job.
Yeah right now. But I thought that that would have
been him, since we we talked about Matt Stafford possibly,
you know, this would be his last year. If he
got hurt, it's just throwing throw them into the mix.
It It wouldn't have hurt anything. I mean, it wouldn't
have cost you with a fourth round pick or something like that.
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But you're right. One thing about about a back, and
I side have a bad back, a back injury. Fred,
you didn't even have to get hit the cap of
back to church your back. If you got a bad back,
I won't never get a super Bowl in Dallas, Texas,
whatever year that was.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I gett in.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Either shower, reached for a towel hanging on the rack,
and my back would pop. And I'm like, oh my gosh,
but three months my back was messed up. You heard
it pop. You heard it pop, just know it would pop.
And I'm like, you've got to it's just reaching for
a towel. I mean, that's how. That's how. Anybody who's
listening to this backs they know. Man, if you got
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a back, it is so debilitating for it. It's no fun.
You You just think everything else feels good for my back.
You're like, if I just matter, just had another back.
But it don't work like that, man, And I'm trying
to play football with the back. It's impossible. You can't
do it.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
No, Well, the problem is you can't go anywhere without
your back, right, It goes with you everywhere. So if
it's bad you're bad. Like you hear it, that goes
everywhere with you. You're right, you know, But about your doors, Sanders,
Here's what I think happened. I think people and team
shot away from him just to get away from the noise.
I think he became a spectacle, quite frankly, and I
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don't think the NFL functions that way.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
They're not about that.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
You know, that might work in basketball, but it doesn't
work in the NFL. And somebody making a lot of
noise coming in wearing a Rolex when he played that
kind of stuff, I don't think it flies well. And
maybe from a RAMS perspective, if they looked at it
and said, we don't need this headache. I mean, I
don't care how good he is. How good could he
be given the noise he's making.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Well, I disagree with that. If you if you're good,
you know they'll make exceptions. And you know that. I mean,
he's not on his dad's level. If he was, If
it was his dad, his dad made a lot of
noise coming in, a lot of noise, Rolex gold, the
dance and everything. I mean, but his dad was a
different kind of athlete, you know. I just feel like
and I'll tell you as much of what and what
I heard from someone that's in the NFL that the
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NFL put it told other don't draft him, do not
draft him. We're gonna make we're gonna make an example
out of him. And this came from a very good source,
a very good source. And he said that I won't
say who. Somebody called the Cleveland Browns and said, don't
do that. Draft really, yep, draft him, don't don't. Don't
do that because they weren't no drafted either, They weren't
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gonna drafted. They were forced into drafting drafting him because
because somebody made a call to them.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Said it's cause you know, and.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I said, when I say this is a this is
an NFL side source for sure, you know, so this
is not this is not here said look one thing
about it is. And I just said, you know, they
don't like when when when when guys have brand, especially
black players, you know, and that's mostly us with the brand,
you know, we kind of some guys are flashing and
all that kind of stuff. They don't like that. They
don't like that this kid pred I don't think you
knew this. He had already made seventeen million dollars buy
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up from a card deal that he already signed a
card deal, yes, seventeen million ready for that, then had
another fourteen I think from uh was it a shoot
Nike or some some shoe deal. So he was good
with money wise. But I know he wants to play
in the National Football League for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
So how does he do that? I mean, Cleveland picked him.
I find it fascinating. Eric, you're saying somebody even called
the brons and said, don't do that. Yeah, somebody somebody
called him. Brown said, So what was the objective? He
doesn't get picked. He's an undrafted That's exactly. That's exactly
what's gonna happen. They were gonna have him and he
was not gonna get drafted to basically show show you
this is what happens when you when you do this.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I mean, look, you know, mcfred, the NFL got all
kind of power, they do all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
You know that and I know it too. But no,
they were they were not gonna draft him. And like
I said, when I said, I came from a good source.
It came from a very very good source. He said
they were gonna draft him. I like, because I when
I saw it, when he went to the second one,
I said, oh, I said, I said it out loud.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
They're not gonna draft him. They're gonna make an example
out of him. I knew it.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Do you think so the guy that they d after,
the quarterback they drafted ahead of him, he wasn't as
good as Shador? He even said it. I mean, how
do you draft a guy that you know that's not
better than the guy that you drafted after?
Speaker 5 (15:09):
That?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Though it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Do you think Shador knew they wanted to make an
example out of him?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I don't think he realized to the extent that the
NFL would go to make an example out of him. No,
I don't think he knew that. I didn't think his
dad knew the extent they would go to make an
example out of him. I mean, but you know, the
NFL has their own way of doing things, and it
is what it is.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I mean that honestly, that that's pretty serious.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
It's very serious, Fred, It's just serious. I mean, look, look,
the NFL, man, man, you know how I know. Look,
the NFL is gonna make it by making money. They
want to have this great image that they say that
they treat the players right there. They're the good guys,
and in a lot of ways they're not the good guy.
You know, they're not call like I see it. I mean,
they've done some good things, I'll put it to you
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like that, they've done some very good things. But they've
done some very heinous things, just like you know, and
I hate to go back to it, just like the race,
the race norming thing.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
You know that that's horrible. I mean it's it's horrible,
and they admit it.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
They did it. So you can't. You can't. You can't
have it both ways. You can't. You it's that you
can't sit on the fence. I mean, you you one
way or the other. I mean, you're trying to do
the right thing. Look, I could see if your door
Sanders was a real problem, like had you know, say
out of games of Lakers, say assault, fighting, drugs, all that,
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all that kind of stuff. But he's not that kind
of He's not that kind of kid you might not
like because he's a flashy like his dad. Like his
dad was flashy, just like his pops. But that but
you gotta stand for it. That was back in the
in the eighties, so now you know, stuff is more.
It's a it's a bigger light on thing. You have
social media, so it makes you even bigger. So for sure,
you know, teams don't like that kind of stuff and
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the NFL doesn't.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, maybe you know his dad was flashy, no question,
and maybe teams are looking at it like, uh not
for our quarterback though, Uh huh. You're you're gonna bring
a lot of attention to us, unwarranted and unwanted attention.
We're gonna have to deal with the fact that you're
not playing. You're going to become the story and we
don't want that.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, I mean I can understand that too, But you
know what, you know what it comes down to Fred
winning football games. We don't care if you if you
want to wear a donkey head, you know, coming to
the stadium. If we winning, we could with it. He
put that donkey head on again, you know, if we
win it.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Uh, Eric, It's interesting when you talk about this because
then we kind of touched on it in the past.
Of all the leagues, NFL players have the worst and
they get hit the most. Oh my gosh. The funny
thing is I just talked to some basketball players.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I did it.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I did an interview with Uh. I can't think of
the show. Uh the basketball players. I can't think of
the name of the show. Got him he played for
the Lakers. Gosh, anyway, I can't think of the name
of the show. I did it. Did it last week?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
And Uh?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
He asked me, sir Eric, he said, let me ask
you a question. Uh, what is y'all's pinsion?
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Like?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I said, it's a joke. I said, let me ask
you this. Do y'all have health care? He said, yeah,
if we have health care for the rest of our lives,
our kids have health care to their twenty seven years
I think to twenty seven years. To say, I think
twenty seven years old. I'm like, wow, yeah, full health care,
I said. We have no health care Like me, when
I retired, I had no health care. I have to
pay for my health care, I said.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
In the NFL, the kids have health care until after
five years after retired. So if you retired thirty, you
got to thirty five. Now, Fred, are you gonna have
to start having problems at thirty five? Now? Think about that. No,
you're not. You're gonna start having problems later in life.
I mean, I mean our our Players Association as a joke.
You saw it just happened with Lord Howell. I mean
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it's a joke. I mean Fred Goodell ran over to
Marris Smith and I to me, I'm so glad that
Gruden said. I feel like Gruden his big lip ass.
I can't stand his ass. I'm just gonna say that
big lip. I thought it was funny with the mission
lip I said. I say, he ain't lying. That's like
somebody saying we're eric you with your bald head ass.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
What am I gonna say? Oh, I'm not bald headed.
I can't. I got I'm ball headed. If you got
big lips, you got big lips. It is what it is.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
NBA guys are gonna start making like seventy million dollars
a year. Seventy million dollars a year.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Hey, I don't.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I don't begrudge anybody getting paid. I think everybody should
make as much as they can. NBA guys making seventy
million dollars a year. Football guys granted, play fewer games,
but it's far more dangerous and at any moment career ending.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Does that seem a little out of whack to you?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
What do you think.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
NBA guys make that kind of money and football players don't.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
What do you think, Fred? Of course it's not a whack.
But you know, the the NFL can get away with it. Fred.
They because we don't have a good our union sucks.
That's why they do it. Look, you know the NFL.
The NFL is not gonna come in one day and say, man,
you know what, I feel bad. Man, you know what,
we're gonna start paying these players right. You know we've
been messing over them. They're not gonna ever do that.
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You have to force it. You have to stand up.
You have to stand together. The NFL players will not
stand together. You have to have those quarterbacks, have to
have the top guys. And they're not gonna do it.
It just doesn't work like that. And it's sad that
that happens. But that's just the reality. I mean, and
I always say this, Look look at it like this, Fred.
If I can pay you seventy million dollars, Fred, and
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I can pay another guy twenty five million, I can
pay another guy fifteen, I can pay another guy eight
on the basketball whatever, and I'm paying all these say my,
say my, let's just say my salary, my my my
for my team, I'm paying salaries. And say, let's just
say I'm gonna use the number. Let's say five hundred
million dollar. Let's use that number, all right. How much
money do you think I'm making? If I can do that,
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that's the owner you think I'm making. You think I'm
making like like like two hundred million dollars over absolutely
not fair. We're making billions, billions. I mean the NFL,
the NFL. I remember we had a license in the NFL.
This was years ago. And the guy that was over
the licensed, he was may Faker, Rodger Gooday was over
licensed at that time. He wouldn't even commissioner. But there's
another guy that who were dealing with, and he said,
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I'm gonna tell you something. Say, you don't even notice
the NFL makes more money than any all sports combine Baseball,
say maybe except soccer becausist International, he said, Baseball, Basketball, NASCAR,
all of them. He said, they cannot touch the NFL.
He told me that that's been about twelve or fourteen
ft fifteen years ago. Now think about how much money
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they make now, Fred, I mean they they if the NFL.
You remember the NFL was a non profit for ers. Now
how you get away with that? Tell me how you
get being a non profit that? That doesn't make sense? No, no,
it doesn't.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
No.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
But hey, you know, the NFL is a is a
is A is a money machine. It's all about the
money if I can afford. When I tell people, the
guys don't know. I said, you know, I said, what
is the what is the was it? Was it silver
for the NBA? The commissioner, Yeah, Adam Adam Syrah.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
What does he? I say? They say he makes like
twenty five million dollars. I said, they'll make sixty four.
They were like what, like yeah, Like wait.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
A minute, I'm like, he makes high SA he makes
sixty four million dollars. Think about its red. He makes
sixty four million dollars a year, maybe more than that.
But the thing about it, he didn't pay for anything.
He got the NFL Black card, you know whatever card
they use, you know, the car.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
To get hit. Everything's on the NFL. Everything.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
So think, if I'm making sixty four million dollars, is
it a player making sixty four million dollars in the
National Football League?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
No. No, So he's the highest paid none player in
the in the in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
So but you can make this argument.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
You know, he is overseeing the business and he's in
charge of all profit things like that, how much money
they make, how they operate. And maybe he's just hitting
his targets, which tells you they're making a lot of money.
If he's hitting targets and making sixty four million.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Dollars a year. Yeah, but still he don't pet it.
He don't take one hit. No, he don't put on
one uniform. He probably don't even well he might see
if he played football. But you know, I still think
it's it's not right that that a commissioner makes more
than the than the players make. And the thing is
his stuff is all guaranteed. Why can't the players be guaranteed.
I mean, it's not gonna hurt them. Even if a
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guy goes down, it's not gonna hurt them. I mean seriously.
But the reason they're not guaranteed because our union sucks.
I didn't blame the NFL for that. I blame I
blame our union leaders for that. We don't have guaranteed contracts.
That's that's just ridiculous. And every sport, even I think
hockey has guaranteed contracts. We don't have guaranteed contracts.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Well, Eric, nice, nice job today, Thanks for coming in,
Thanks for hanging out.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Are you getting ready for Mondays again?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I've read I'm ready. Can't you tell them I'm gonna
get them getting warmed up already?
Speaker 4 (23:35):
You're warmed up?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
All right, we'll we'll see them in the NFL season
kicks off. Thanks for hanging Eric.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Okay, no problem.
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His time as we get ready for the NFL season
coming up. Eric is not short on opinions, Fred, is
he No, He tells it like it is.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
No.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
He has spoken out against the union for years. And
by the way, rightful, Rodney, you a one hundred percent
at the very least, at the very least. And I
don't understand. Didn't understand it when I was playing when
older guys would say it. But don't understand of all
the leagues, why the NFL with all the money that
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they're making, with all the money that the owners, even
if the owners just stepped up and did it, let's
call it a day. But there is no lifetime healthcare
for NFL players, even if you've played four plus years,
which is what you qualify to get your benefits. But
guys that play ten years, twenty years in the league,
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there is no lifetime healthcare benefits for that person or
their family, which every other league. Every other league has,
and it's ridiculous that football doesn't have. It's really a crime,
right to be honest with you, it's a flat out crime.
It is a flat out crime, and you know it's
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never changed. Maybe down the road it will Otani goes
tonight for the Dodgers in Colorado. Here's something people have
kicked around. What about using Otani as a reliever? What
about using O'tani as a closer?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
How about that? How much of a difference would that make?
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Well.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Mark Pryor was on with Dan Patrick this morning and
they actually brought that up.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
It's been discussed, and it's really understanding kind of the
rules of him coming in as a reliever and knowing
that because of the world the way it's set up
right now, as a starter, he can come out of
the game and still maintain as a DH, but he
comes in as a reliever. You got to find that
line of where hopefully the game is because you can't
put him in in the sixth and then take him
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out as a pitcher in seventh and keep him in
as a DH. So it would have to be a
situation where it was probably we think the game's over
and he's closing, or be okay with him not coming
not hitting anymore.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
So that would be really the only scenario.
Speaker 8 (26:59):
Can I see it, absolutely, But it would probably be
closer to the back end when the game's you know,
kind of on the line, and it would be over
after he's done.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
So it is something Rodney the Dodgers have kicked around.
I think Bill Plash he's even written about it. Maybe
he should come in and be the closer. But now
you understand why that doesn't Oh yeah, yeah, But that's
the only way it works. As he just said, right,
if he comes in in the seventh, then the rule
state that he comes in in the seventh, unless he
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stays in and pitches the eighth and the ninth. He
would have to come out as a hitter. Right if
somebody else comes in to relieve him in the eighth
after he struck everybody out in the seventh, then he
wouldn't be eligible to hit. So you don't ever want
to take the bat out of his hand because you
never Knowesacally, the way the Dodgers are playing away baseball
is played that if you're down three runs or you're
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shutting it down in the seventh and the ninth, the
game could be tied up, and all of a sudden,
where's the bat that you need it? Where's Otani's bat
in the tenth or strainings. Uh, you don't want to
you don't want to be put into that situation. I
think there was another team that did that, I believe.
I think it was Atlanta. Michael Harris, who's on fire
right now, is killing it. He got a big hit
(28:12):
or a home run, a big hit, and it's like
the seventh inning, they were down and they took him
out of the game, and all of a sudden they
started to come back and made it a game, and
his spot was coming up in the lineup again in
the ninth, and they didn't have him. They didn't have
him the guy struck out that replaced him. So it's
(28:33):
it's it's interesting. I mean, I know they they they
they they changed the rules for him as a starting pitcher,
right as a starting pitcher that he can stay in
the game and in d H. But as a reliever,
he's not gonna be able to do that. So the
only way you could see him as a reliever with
that scenario is you're up by three runs in the
ninth and trying to close the game out. Yeah, that
(28:56):
would be it. Otherwise you would never want to lose
his back. So that answers the question. Yeah, what if
they what if he struggles in the night they're up
to and you want him to close, and all of
a sudden, the game gets tied and he's he can't
find a plate, and you you you gotta go get him.
Do you go get him or you gotta let him go?
When would he hit in the order he's coming up,
(29:19):
he's coming up two and two the next inning, second
hit or the next inning. But he give he gave
up two runs in the ninth, and and it's uh,
there's a guy on second and third. Now he's done.
You gotta go get him. M Well, wait a minute.
Is the game tied? Now you're up by one? Okay,
(29:43):
come second and third, one out, one out, second and third.
They they moved it to second and third, one out
in the ninth, and he's given up three straight hits
and now they're now the opposing team has second and
third with one out. He's coming up to hit second
in the bottom of the ninth.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
What do you do.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Second and third, one out? Yep, And no chance of
apple play. Sack sackfly ties it up second and third, yep,
one out and no chance of a double play.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Ball, Now, M.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Got it.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
You know what I guess. I guess you gotta let
him go one more. You gotta let him go one more.
You gotta let him go one more. Maybe what you do? Okay,
So he walks its loaded. I was gonna say, let's
put the guy in first base.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Now there's one out in the bases loaded, and you're
up by one. Yeah, and he's gonna hit second in
the bottom of the inning.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
So now you think to yourself, Okay, if we bring
in whoever and they get two outs, oh, Tony doesn't
even have to hit.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
We win.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
If they turned the double play or you get two outs, right,
you got a sacrifly fly ties it though. That's okay,
that's okay, because in the bottom of the inning you
have Otani hit it.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
No you don't.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
No, you haven't taken them out. Leave him in, Leave
him in. So he's in with the bases loaded. I
leave him in. He goes one more, Okay, he keeps
saying one more. So you said, let he goes one more.
With second, and third, and now he Now we we
walk the guy. The bases are loaded, he gets loaded
one out. You leave him in one more time, yep,
go for the double play. Okay, sacrifice fly. So now
(31:42):
runners are on first and second, two out, second, two outs,
games tied, leave him in. Okay, Now we need his bat. Okay,
here's the deal. Bases base hit, but they hold the
runner at at They hold the runner at third, still
two no base hit. Runners at second, third, one out
(32:07):
base there's two outs because no sacrifice fly. Wait wait, wait, no,
I'm giving you a different scenario. Okay, all right, go ahead.
So runners at second, third, one out, rights hit, base
hit to the left field, hard hit, ball to left field.
Run scores to tie it up, but they hold the
runner at third. Now you got first and third, one out,
(32:28):
tie ball game. They hold him. They don't chance it.
They hold him up. Tie ball game, first and third,
one out. Well, at this point you definitely need him
to hit. He stays in.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
So what point do you not need him to hit?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
You're screwed. Now you're screwed. He's gonna stay in.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
The only way you don't need him to head is
if he retires aside and the game is over. If
you put him in, he's got to stay in now.
Now if he was hitting eight of the different story, Yeah, right,
but you're saying he's hitting second, he'shting second, and you
have no choice.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
You have no choice.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
All right.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Look, we got to get out of here pretty quick.
But we were talking about something earlier, and we have
an update on that when we come back. Remember we
were talking about how to deal with the LA media. Yeah,
the way to you know, work on things and present
yourself in a certain way.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Why do we have an update coming up?
Speaker 7 (33:33):
Hello Rogan and Rodney.
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Speaker 1 (33:54):
Wip Yeah, down to home Stretch, Rodney, Pete, Fred Rogan,
come on, Freddy talk to me.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Let's do this stuff happening? Yes, So we talked about coaches.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
And the way they deal with the media here in
Los Angeles, earlier I mentioned to Sean Foster. I said, well,
you know, he seems pretty approachable. He understands that you
have to communicate with the media. Ironically, just about forty
five minutes ago he had an exchange with the media.
So here's UCLA coach to Sean Foster. Can you explain
(34:26):
kind of the more restrictive media policies if you have
been put in place recently with no players today, no interview,
no feature interviews.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Yeah, you guys film or practice and put it online.
And if I was an opponent for another team, I'd
look right at your guys and stuff and see what's
going on. So for them not to get a beat
on Tino or our dept or anything that's going on.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
That's why it's close. Ever interviews, player interviews, that's the.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
Same thing because if they come over interview, then you
guys are going to ask me, are they a starter?
Are they this?
Speaker 7 (34:57):
Are they that I'm trying to get like human interest
feature type stuff?
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (35:01):
I know it's tough, but you know we want to
win games.
Speaker 7 (35:04):
Do you worry about the marketing impact for the program
at all?
Speaker 6 (35:07):
No, I'll let you guys have all of that. I
don't not worry about the marketing because all the marketing does.
If you win games, your.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Marketing, well, you look at it like that, you better
win games. Hard line Stance by Deshaun Foster. Yep, if
you look at it like that, you're better win games,
because that's not gonna uh, that's gonna win any.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Friends in the media.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
And at the end of the day, because they asked
about like human interest or feature stories on an individual
and he was like, no, the same thing, same thing.
You get too much information that can go to our opponents.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Country. Well, I get that.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
I get that, and he wants to win and he
wants to turn that program around. But I have to
tell you, there gotta be some give and take with
that because if you if you go that hard line
of a stance, it could backfire on you. It could backfire.
You got to give access to the media. I get
(36:06):
not filming practice. There's a there's rules, And it used
to be when I played that there was a certain
time limit that the media had access to practice, and
then they like thirty minutes of practice, and then they
kicked the media out and you couldn't film anything, you
couldn't shoot anything. And that's when you got into your
real ex's and o's a practice. I don't know why
it's changed. I don't know why you can't still do
(36:27):
that because you don't have to allow the media to
film the bulk of your practice or the meat of
your practice. But the first fifteen to twenty minutes has
always been open and then you go from there. Yep,
So you better win because here's what happens. If you
don't win, Oh, and you don't talk to the media,
it's going to get way. It will make come to
(36:49):
its own conclusions, and they're always very unpleasant. Yes they are, Ronnie,
great job, Thank you. Kevin appreciate it as well. Hey, Rodney,
over off tomorrow. Dodgers have a day game, so we'll
talk Friday.
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