Wha to know about Colon Cancer

Today, Doug Pike interviews Dr. Shinil Shah about colon cancer.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
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Speaker 2 (00:46):
Thursday edition of the program starts right now. Thank you
all so very much for allowing Will and me to
jump into your lunch hour, happy hour, whatever it may be.
Thank you Will. That was kind of creepy. It just
kind of slid underneath the monitor and over the board,
and it just it almost appeared to be, I don't know,

(01:08):
just coming from nowhere. But then I realized what it
was and I wasn't scared anymore. Cold cold morning this morning,
Holy cow, wind blowing out of the north all night.
I actually came up with a way, I have issues
at home and probably more severe freezes than we had
last night, or we'll have tonight. But I've had issues

(01:30):
in the past of a spigot on the outside of
the house hooked the hose up water the backyard back
before I had a sprinkler system. That particular spigot tends
in heavy freeze to freeze even though I had the
little cover on it. Got the little cover on there
like I have on all the others around the house,

(01:51):
but that one in particular tends to freeze up and
knock on wooden. I've had no problem thawing it before
I had to deal with anything busting in the house
or anything. But I wanted a better way to cover it.
And I had all these weird ideas in my head

(02:11):
contraptions and boxes and towels and all these things to
put atop the foam cover to make it a little
more insulating. And I even had one halfway tape. I
had to cut foam with a knife and all this
stuff yesterday to try to build something, and it just

(02:31):
wasn't working out. And then it dawned on me that
about a month ago, maybe two, my wife and I
received a gift of some food that had to stay cold,
some sausages being delivered from about halfway across somewhere I
don't know where, but they arrived in a very thick,
very thick styrofoam box and fairly large styrofoam box, and

(02:59):
I thought, I wonder if that'll hold over the foam
cover that I have on there now and then snug
up nice and tight to the bricks as well. And
it's a It fits like a glove. It fits like
a glove.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Now.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
The only thing I'm gonna have to do is when
I take it down this time from this mild freeze
we had. I don't know about the other descriptions that
were in it, but once I take it down, I'm
going to I'm going to add some a little bit
looser foam, kind of like the little covers have on.
I'll find some of that stuff somewhere. I don't know

(03:37):
whether i'll find it in a hardware store, craft store, what,
but I'll find it. And once I do, and once
I adhere it to the bottom of that thing, it's
gonna I'll take that thing in zero degrees and be
confident that it's gonna work. So anyway, little side of
the house that's actually the back of the house. Issue

(03:59):
Low's tonight going to go to about twenty six degrees,
I think, and local forecasters have issued a severe weather warning,
or or you might hear an extreme cold alert. And
every time I hear that and look at the numbers,
I just do a little search for temperatures across the
United States, either on my phone or on my laptop,

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and lo and behold, there are people farther north of us,
still in the United States, whose temperatures are in single digits.
They might be below zero. And suddenly twenty six doesn't
sound that bad. And then I remind myself that there's
actually an entire country north of us, the one that
booed our national anthem at a hockey game recently, by

(04:43):
the way, and twenty six looks.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Warmer all the more.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
All that the only time and I witnessed this, what
was it Tuesday morning? Maybe yesterday, no, yesterday morning actually
when it was cold, when it was actually well Chile anyway,
it didn't quite freeze, I don't believe, or maybe it did.
In any event, I came across I had to go
pick up some medication for my wife, and when I did,

(05:11):
I noticed that at this particular no, its Walgreens, at
this particular Walgreens, not not close to where we live. Actually,
this is the only place that had what she needed.
There was a guy asleep on the sidewalk adjacent to
the parking lot of Walgreens, huddled up against the wall

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and fairly well clothed. He was heavily clothed. I don't
think he was cold at that point, but man, it
just I felt so sad about that. And I got
to thinking about how much money that we thrown away.
We're finding up about out about more and more money
that we just threw away all around the world. And

(05:53):
I got thinking, here's here's an American sleeping on the
ground outside a drug store in freezing or near freezing temperatures,
and we sent money to South America to put on
a drag show somewhere. That's just messed up anyway. Fisher

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for you. So high tod high forty today, gosh overnight
low around thirty one, maybe twenty five, maybe thirty five
if you're outside the Grand Parkway to either extreme north
or south. Weekend might get a little sloppy. Then we
get sunshine and a mild Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday,

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when the high is supposed to be back to seventy
three degrees. And then in our future, our very near future,
the high for March fourth, just two weeks from today,
eighty degrees will We're going to eighty degrees and not
that far away off the market courtesy of Houston Gold Exchange.
All four indicators down at ten o'clock and then still

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down even by a little bit more, several of them
more than a full percentage point only just a few
minutes ago. You could blame Walmart. Walmart for a little
of that retreat, after it reported a growing profit but
said it was cautious about its outlook based on tariff
and inflation. Warriors oil up a little too seventy three

(07:39):
bucks last I looked, and gold up twenty dollars and
holding it around twenty nine fifty six per troy ounce.
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Speaker 1 (09:17):
Wait until the show's over, sleepy. Back to Doug Pike
as fifty plus continues.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
All right, welcome back to fifty plus. Thanks for listening,
certainly do appreciate it. Thanks as always for allowing willing
me to intrude on your lunch hour. And in this segment,
we'll return to a subject that will always make a
couple of you squirm just a little in your chairs,
and that subject is colon cancer. And to help us

(09:52):
explain kind of the what, when, and why, I will
enlist doctor Chanel Shaw, Board certified surgeon and Medical Director
of Clinical rese Search at ut Health Houston, among other
remarkable credentials. Actually, welcome to fifty plus, doctor.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Shaw, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Good afternoon, Yes, my pleasure. So let's start with a
definition of colon cancer. And I guess it would actually
be more proper more appropriate to use the term the
plural term is say, colon Cancer's right?

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yeah, So colon cancers kind of colon and rectal cancers
refer to tumors that arise in the large intestine. It
used to always be thought of as a kind of
a condition to cancer that affects older adults. And the
guidelines have actually changed in the last couple of years
because we're seeing more and more younger patients diagnosed with

(10:43):
colon cancer. I'm kind of in that forty to fifty
age range, and for that reason, the guidelines have really
suggested that we start screating patients earlier, as early as
forty five, and in certain cases, depending on family history,
even earlier.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Mercy, is there any Is there any knowledge yet about
why these things are starting up earlier.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, there's I think a couple of risk factors we
always think about is what are the risk factors, and
then what potentially could do to reduce those risk factors
getting older? As we get older, there's certainly a risk
of getting colon cancer. There are certain backgrounds African Americans,
Native Americans, Alaskan natives, that Asknazi Jewish population that unfortunately

(11:31):
have higher risks of colon cancer. Patients who have inflammatory
bowel diseases we think of like ulternative colitis and Chrohn's
disease can be at increased risk. But I think the
reason that we're seeing more and more younger patients. Unfortunately,
being diagnosed with colon cancer has a lot to do
with lifestyle factors. So with our increasing weight, with obesity,

(11:55):
a lower fiber, higher fat diet, kind of the reliance
on heavily or high processed foods, smoking, excessive alcohol consumption,
and diabetes, especially uncontrolled diabetes are all risk factors for
the development of colon cancer.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Boy, and all of those things, every one of them
seems pretty common. Not the smoking so much anymore, but
the rest of that pretty well would apply to people
very young in this country, wouldn't they. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
I think there's we always think about kind of genetic
causes that most cases are sporadic, and I think that's
the knowledge of that offers as potential opportunities for intervention,
and when we think about what we can do to
help all of us reduce the risk, is really targeted
on addressing a lot of those risk factors.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Are are these typically slow growing or fast growing cancers dot.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
So most of the time from a most colon cancers
will start out as a which is when we talk
about how can we identify early and potentially prevent colon cancer.
We think about colonoscopy to identify and remove polyps. I
like to think of polyps as like little pimples on
the inside of the colon, and traditionally for a polyp
to develop into colon cancers traditionally a two to three

(13:18):
year process. Now everyone's different, but it gives you the
idea that early detection removal of polyps can really help
prevent the development of colon cancer. But typically that process
from polyp to cancer is a two to three year process.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Doctor Chanel Shaw on fifty plus this afternoon, For those
of us who pay attention to changes in our bodies,
what are some of the symptoms of colon cancer that
we might be able to recognize ourselves?

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Absolutely, I think the symptoms that should be like red
flags to when to call your primary care doctor, internus,
et cetera. Blood in the stool, unintentional weight laws. Obviously,
a lot of just want to lose weight, but if
the weight's coming off and we're not doing anything to
help with that should raise some concern. Unexplained stomach pain.

(14:07):
We have pain that goes on for weeks, days, weeks,
not getting better with kind of over the counter remedies,
changes in our battle habits. If someone was very regular
all of a sudden, they start going a lot less frequently.
Those are all kinds of things that become obvious. The
unfortunate reality of colon cancers is until they get large

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in the sense where they cause symptoms from blockage like
partial blockages or they bleed, a lot of them become
are asymptomatic and won't be diagnosed unless someone gets either
a screening test or incidentally diagnosed while they're getting something
else worked up. The other thing, especially for men, when

(14:50):
men have unexplained anemia, especially if they have unexplained iron deficiency,
that should always at least raise the concern and commendation
for colonoscopy or screening tests to look for potential colon cancer.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
So we've talked about the early diagnosis and how important
that is for positive outcome. Let's start with a cancer
that is caught relatively early. How treatable are those now?

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Very treatable, So early stage colon cancer, even in colon
cancer that has spread to what we call lymph nodes.
I like to think of lymph nodes as kind of
the intermediary between the colon and every other organ in
the body. Survival is excellent with surgery plus or minus chemotherapy.
Radiation typically is not part of the normal treatment for

(15:36):
colon cancer, but is for rectal cancer some very low
tumors of the colon and rectum, but with early detention
and treatment, patients can live really kind of normal lives
after they complete treatment.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Is there anything other than other than watching how much
we smoke or well, not smoking at all? I think
is a good way to go for anybody who's at
risk for pretty much anything that changing diet. What's a
better diet? You mentioned higher fiber. What are some of
the choices we could make that would increase the fiber

(16:11):
in our diets pretty QUICKLYPS?

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yeah, I think that's probably the most important thing, is
increasing fiber in our diet, preventing constipation and straining fiber
rich foods. Think about fruits, vegetables, beans like lagoons whole week,
and then we also recommend consideration for like fiber supplements
like metamus, soul or benefiber. You can get powdered cilium

(16:35):
or these powdered fiber supplements. People use like gia seeds
and flax seeds as fiber sources, but we all need
about twenty five to thirty grams a day of fiber
in our diet. Unfortunately most of us don't get that,
but combined with fiber rich foods in our diet plus
potentially adding a fiber supplement are really good ways to

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help increase fiber reduce our risk of colon can through.
The other thing is I think we're all guilty. Everyone's
on the go, and we don't spend enough time, don't
take enough time for ourselves to eat, and just sometimes
the reality is is our diet is unfortunately pretty processed,
but as best as we can. Minimizing heavily processed foods

(17:17):
and certainly some of the higher fat and processed meats
are also kind of important things to think about when
we think about preventing colon cancer. It's always hard to
tell someone to not do something, but I think moderation
is really important when we think about our diet.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, and moderation would probably be enough for most Americans
because we're already on the far side of that. Believe
it or not, we're also on the far side of
the clock. Sorry, doctor Shaw, uh, Doctor Saniel Shaw, Yeah,
thank you so very much. I really appreciate the information.
We'll get you on again soon, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
I appreciate the opportunity.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Thank you. It's my pleasure. Thank you. All right, we
got to take a little break here. On the way out,
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Speaker 1 (19:26):
Now they sure don't make them like they used to.
That's why every few months we wash them, check his fluids,
and spring on a fresh coda wax. This is fifty
plus with Doug Pike. All right, welcome back fifty plus.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Thanks for listening. Certainly do appreciate it. I'm just looking
at text exchange with my buddy Allan, who is suffering
through something I've suffered through with my golf game now
for the past three months probably or so. Can't put
two nines together. One nine is going to be really good,
the other one not so good, And I never know

(20:09):
until about the fourth hole whether the front will be
good or the back will be good. The only saving
grace so far is that when I've had a bad
front nine, it's always been followed by a pretty good
back nine. And for those of you who don't care
about golf, I apologize. I'm coming back into the real world,
stepping into the news. A Michigan judge came up with

(20:34):
the way he hopes will discourage shoplifters at a small
town Walmart store in that state and little of jail time.
What do you think about this idea? Will So, here's
what this judge wants to do, and he's doing. It's
going to start in summer. It's not going to start
now because it would be seasonally inappropriate, but comes summertime
in lieu of jail time, people who steal from that

(20:56):
store and are caught and convicted will be Requ's wired
to hand wash customers cars in the parking lot. Walmart's
on board, They're going to furnish supplies, and the judge
thinks that just being there pushing a sponge on somebody's
car will deter would be thieves who'd rather not be

(21:17):
seen doing that by friends and family members. I think
that's a good idea. I kind of like it.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
I don't know what's wrong with it. I don't know
if there's anything wrong.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Okay, well then that's a glowing endorsement from you. Then
you can't come up with something wrong. Yeah, I think
that we've got to get created it. I don't think
that somebody necessarily needs to go do a bunch of
jail time, but maybe just something that will make them
think twice about doing that again is not a terrible idea.

(21:49):
Uh doge just keeps on turning up cases of At
the very least, I'll call it questionable spending of taxpayer dollars.
In a recent example, those discovered that the Department of Education,
while reducing its number of employees between twenty twenty twenty four,
somehow managed to increase its spending by do we have

(22:13):
a drum roll?

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Will?

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Can you get me one? No, you refuse to find
a drum roll? Well, then tap on the console a
little bit with your mic on and see if it
sounds like it you're not tapping loudly enough. Will enough stop?
It's okay. They have reduced their spending. It has reduced

(22:37):
its spending. It's an agency by seven hundred and forty
nine percent, despite having that smaller payroll or that smaller
staff roll payroll much bigger. So I don't know, maybe
we got something for our money, right, better education for
our kids. Well no, Actually, student achievement still hasn't even

(22:58):
recovered from when we yank kids out of school during
the pandemic. So they've got seven and a half times
as much money being doled out to fewer employees, but
apparently supporting also financially at least some really questionable projects

(23:19):
and programs. There's a Fox News story out this group
called Open the Books, says that a tremendous amount of
that money is moving through the Department of Education and
into all sorts of programs that are rapidly becoming obsolescent
or unnecessary or by law illegal to continue in this country.

(23:46):
Just a long list of things other than actual education
in the most basic subject, which is where we're falling
behind around the world too. By the way, we have
been so focused on dei and gender issues and pronoun
and all of that stuff that the world is racing
past our kids. The world's kids are racing past ours

(24:06):
in math and science and language and other things that
probably are at least as important. Well, they're more important
really as far as getting along in the world and
remaining successful and strong in this world. And to clarify
something that Elon must mentioned recently, he said that there's

(24:29):
millions of people older than one hundred still on Social
Securities Register. He didn't say they're collecting checks. He just
said they're there, and wondered why when there's thousands I
think it was of people who are up to two
hundred years old. It's just ridiculous that those names are
even there, that those numbers are even there. But there
they are, just there they are. And the left's news

(24:53):
gathering strategy these days, as always, really continues to be
grab it spin at share the spin than have a
everyone on the team spit out the same lie, because
the more you say it, the more believable they think
it becomes. Only we don't believe it anymore. I found
it a little humorous really that the latest one that

(25:14):
montage you could make up now probably forty to fifty
people in big time media talking about a constitutional crisis
that was on every talking head's lips for I don't
know a few days only and then it very quickly disappeared.
I haven't heard it, since it doesn't work anymore, and
they're having meltdowns over Americans finally seeing through all this stuff.

(25:38):
All right, well, let's lighten it up for a minute. Breakfast, lunch,
and dinner of champions way back when, or out the door,
out the door. This one it'll involve a question for
you Will. How much would it take Will for you
to quit your job, drop everything and just travel the world?

(26:01):
How much would it take? Yeah, what kind of what's
what's your buyout? And just go travel the world have
fun for the rest of your life? You think for
how much money enough to live on? Well, that's not
an answer answer, that's just the thought. No, Well, they're
actually the average American. What do you think the average

(26:22):
American said was enough money to just bail and go travel?
It must have been a lot of young people, honestly,
who don't understand finances. And I'm not picking on you
for that. The average answer was only two hundred and
eighty eight thousand dollars. Two hundred and eighty eight thousand dollars,
that's all they need to go travel the world. And

(26:42):
I guess when they run out they'll come back because
to eighty eight it for someone your age that would
last you a while. I'm sure you're you're probably a
pretty pretty careful spender, would I Is that accurate? Or
do you just blow money all over town?

Speaker 5 (26:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (26:58):
I love blowing money. Well, you know what, there's a
woman in Virginia that kind of Yeah, I've got time
for this. Cashier in Virginia gave a woman the wrong
lottery ticket. And this is you and I never have
this kind of luck, will, at least not so far.
So she gets the wrong lottery tickets. Oh well, no worries,

(27:20):
no problem at all. Two million bucks. She won two
million dollars on a lottery ticket she didn't ask for,
but said, what the heck, let's see what happens. And
what happened was she's two million plus. She could go
probably travel the world for a little while and be okay.
And depending on where she went, she could probably live

(27:40):
like a queen. All Right, we gotta take a little
break here. We'll come back in a few minutes and
wrap up this edition of fifty plus right here on
AM nine to fifty kprc Aged to perfection. This is
fifty plus with Dougpike. Welcome Back fifty plus, fourth and

(28:12):
final segment starts. Now, will do you want to talk gum?
You want to talk moderately humorous, because that's all these
little things I find are. They're not really knee slappers.
You want to do that? You want to go back
to the serious pages? Or do you want chicken news
give me the moderate knee slappers? Dang it, this is

(28:33):
serious man. This is from Texas Department of Agriculture Sid Miller.
I thought a moderate knee slapper. No, that's not a
This is some big time stuff on eggs. Guess how
I'm gonna give you a pop quiz here? Will how
many birds? How many chickens and other birds? I guess

(28:55):
have been depopulated? If you know what I meand flu
related depopulation has resulted in the loss of how many
birds since night? Or excuse me, since twenty twenty two?
Like a stab I don't know, Take a stab a
wild gus? I don't know, dug how about yeah, go ahead,

(29:19):
spit out of number. It's okay, okay, things right, I'll
give you a percentage point. Well I don't have a
percentage I have a flat number here, all right, Well
give me the number. Well, then it wouldn't be a quizit.

Speaker 5 (29:32):
I'll tell you if it matches my percentage.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Oh oh will, oh will, twenty eight years old. One
hundred and fifty million birds, including and here's why eggs
are so hot, including more than one hundred and twenty
three million laying hens. No wonder eggs or so expensive?

(30:02):
No wonder back in where see In February of twenty
twenty one, a dozen eggs cost a dollar and sixty
cents on average around the country, which means around here
there are probably a buck, ten buck, twenty four dollars
and ten cents by December of twenty twenty four, and

(30:24):
already now four ninety five per dozen on average. Trump
Administration's prioritization of enhanced biosecurity measures this is from Sid
Miller's office, and targeted medical interventions rather than the widespread
and costly mass culling of infected flocks, is a common

(30:44):
sense approach. While some depopulations may still be necessary in
severe cases, this new strategy offers a more sustainable and
effective path forward back to affordable omelets. Omelets you can
get without having to swing by the ATM, that you
can get without having to tap into your four oh

(31:04):
one k so fingers crossed and now we can go
to your funny stuff. Will daydream Believer? Do you know
what band? Actually, that's kind of a reference to a
long ago band will. Do you know who who did
daydream Believer? Daydream Believer? Without looking it up? Uh? Is it?

(31:28):
Is it the police? No, it's a band with the
name of an animal, the plural name of an animal,
and that's all I'm gonnaday.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
You a band with the plural name of an animal.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, this name is an animal's name in plural. Well,
we only have like four minutes left the Wombats. Oh
you're so not close. Day Dream Believer was done by
Have you ever heard of the Monkeys?

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Hey it's the monkeys. Yeah, I've heard of the people
say we monkey around? There was that song that Davy
Jones guy had some real slow song that all the
girls liked. I can't remember the name of it in
any event. According to a new study, people who daydream
regularly are more likely to remember their dreams, even the

(32:27):
ones they have while sleeping. Do you ever wake up
from a crazy dream and then a minute later can't
remember what it was about? Is that your norm? Or
do you remember them? For longer periods.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
I think it kind of depends on what happens in
the dream. I think usually the scarier dreams I remember,
Really you don't remember the good ones. I mean I
can remember if I feel good, like I remember my
dream from last night.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Do you yeah, vividly or just kind of barely just
the topic?

Speaker 5 (32:58):
No, I kind of remember. I can miss a picture.
I can picture certain places that we were.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Don't go there, will you just said we were? Oh
my gosh, well yeah I was.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
I was.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
I was with a group of pals. Oh, I don't
know about that. Will I don't know if we want
to hear about that. The old switcheroo will only the
good that's another musical reference. And way back when, way
back when, let's do that. Okay, what is closer will
to the debut of Judge Judy the to the moon

(33:37):
landing or to today? And because it's so yeah, Judge Judy,
well it's it's clearly the former, not the latter. Judge
Judy debuted closer to the date of the moon landing
than today. That's how long ago? When did Judge Judy debut?

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (33:58):
I didn't even click on the part that says for
more information. I just just fit with that doesn't matter.
Do you care? I thought it would be interesting if
I'll look it up and tell us then okay, Well,
while you're doing that, I'll do this. This I found
rather disturbing, and it really I'm not sure how it's
gonna all turn out, but it really it's just it's

(34:18):
weird and tragic and sad and all all wrapped into
one thirty eight year old woman. And I saw this
a couple of days ago after you, but I hadn't
gotten to it yet. Suing an IVF clinic in Georgia,
after they mixed up embryos and she winds up giving
birth to someone else's baby. They do the genetic chest

(34:42):
of DNA check. I guess after the baby's born, and
lo and behold not just one or the other. Lo
and behold, she gave birth to somebody else's baby. That
that's horrifying for her. And I don't I don't know
how you. I don't know how you get through that. Honestly.

(35:02):
Let me see if there's one shorty Judge. Judy debuted
in July of Oh let me get September of nineteen
ninety six. Oh wow, I thought it was maybe even
a little earlier than that. Nineteen ninety six though, that
got to go back to the sixties. No, seventies for
the moon, seventies for the moon. So okay, it's close,

(35:24):
it's very close right here in Texas. Yeah, I've got
time for this state sentence passed items that would deny
bail to criminal illegals. Isn't that redundant in any way?
No bail for them and for certain violent offenders. If
this goes through, which it should, and quickly, I think
that would be better. I'll scratch that one out. I

(35:46):
had time for it. I'm not going to go to
what's going on in Maine because it's just really weird,
it really is. Let's go back to something solid. We
got a minute and a half, right, is that correct? Yes? Okay,
well boring nothing this audience doesn't know already. And that's
one which came first, and we'll go back to oh, no,

(36:09):
total waste of money one of those three total waste
of money? Yeah, I mean, seriously, researchers are looking and
being paid to look at why it looks so intense
when people text with periods after everything? Yes, isn't that

(36:30):
pretty simple? To figure out because it is intense that
they mean to They mean to draw out a little
angst in you there. This is like we need to talk.
That's pounding on the desk in text right the period
after every word and maybe bold at all caps, even
if you want to make it worse, would you agree.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
I feel like it's only I only feel somewhat scared
if I get a text from my mom and a
says okay period now.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
As an answer to something you asked, or is something
you wanted permission to do, or what I'm just saying,
I love you, Hey, I love you mom, and she
gets okay. Yeah, there's somebody, one of the managers here
for a long long time, when any anything we would
do like that, he would just respond kas kay, like
I got it, leave me alone. I want to leave

(37:26):
you guys alone for a little while, at least twenty
three and a half hours or whatever it is. We'll
be back tomorrow. Thank you for listening. We'll wrap up
the week then, Audios