3-Hour Eulogy: The Life and Layers of Mr. Kevin Carter

In this episode, Dr. Branch sits down with Kevin Carter—a true jack of all trades. He’s a content creator, business owner, software engineer, comedian, entertainer, rapper, and scholar. Kevin does it all, and instead of trying to write it out, we let him tell it.Kevin opens up about living a life so full that he hopes his eulogy lasts three hours—not from ego, but because of how deeply he’s committed to creating impact. He talks about intentionally stepping into discomfort to grow, pushing himself into new lanes, and living in a way that leaves real ripples. From his past to his present and into the future, Kevin shares gems, stories, and insight that remind us that the only thing we’ll truly be remembered for is what we do.

🎯 3 Challenges Here are 3 challenges for listeners based on Kevin Carter’s episode:

1. Do one thing this week that makes you uncomfortable on purpose.
   Choose something small but unfamiliar. The goal is to stretch, not succeed.
2. Write your future eulogy.
   What would people say about you if you passed today? What do you want them to say? Let that guide your next move.
3. Audit your impact.
   List the ways you've shown up for others—family, friends, community, or work. Then ask yourself, “Where can I do more with what I already have?”

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Kevin is a man of many talents and one who loves to give back and help those other than himself. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Three Parallel, Three Parallel, Three Parallel, three Parallel podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Welcome back to the Three Parallels Podcast with your hosts
The Doctor Jason Branch. Where we transition from who we
once were, we embrace who we actually are and make
room for our better selves.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Today's guests.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
As you all know, when I bring family on, we
have a good time. So we're gonna have a good
time anyway. We're just bringing y'all into the conversation. And
this next guest, I'm telling.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
You, he is on fire.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
When I say that this man has done everything. And
when I say everything, I mean everything that you could
ever think of.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
He's done it. If you can't think of it, he
hasn't done it yet, but he will. This brother, i'm telling.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
You, is a he's a business owner. He's a producer.
He's in different industries. He's well educated. He's a software
engineer and data analysis. I mean, he does it all.
He's a creative, he's a content creator, he's a podcaster. Listen,
we don't have enough time for me to tell you
all the things that this brother do. Oh he also

(01:09):
is a rapper as well. Just drop the album recently
and I hope he shares it. With y'all expects he's
gonna share with y'all. But ladies and gentlemen, I bring
to you the one and only Kevin Carter.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Has it going? Has it going? Man?

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
I'm thankful that you allowed us to be graceful with
your presence.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Please know it busy man.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
You got a lot going on and I appreciate you
sharing time with us and the listeners. So to the audience,
please know Kevin got some gems, he got some jewels,
he got a lot of life experience in experiences, and
he's going to share a lot. So get your journals
ready to start writing down these notes because a lot
of things is gonna come up, all these breadcrumbs, and
as we talk about bread crumbs, it's things that we
need that's hitting in playing sight. So let's dive in.

(01:51):
Let's start from the beginning. How would you describe this
version of you now who's doing all of the all
of the things, and who were you before you got
to this place?

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I would say, Uh, the version I am in now
is free. I think that's where I'm at now. I'm
free right now. And the person I was before before
that moment was probably I don't want to use the
word lost, but just unsure, you know what I'm saying, inconsistent,

(02:26):
you know, things like that, but more unsure, you know
what I'm saying, not really knowing, you know what I'm saying,
because at the end that you don't know what you
don't know. But when you when you find out, when
you find out what you know, you realize, oh, I
didn't know, you know what I'm saying. So, uh, it's
one of one of them situations. But I think right
now at this point in my life, man, I feel
very very free.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
So I love it free, freedom, freedom and free.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Uh. So you paid the price to get this freedom,
this level of freedom, and I want to talk a bit.
I want to talk a bit about the diversity, Like
you have a diverse background platform of all these different
things you're doing, from you know, your your main job,
to comedy to stand up, to business to podcasting to

(03:10):
even entertainment, Like how do you juggle all these hats
that you wear?

Speaker 1 (03:15):
The first thing is I don't sleep, but but but
but but the keep to keep it real with you
was like I don't, I don't. It doesn't seem to me,
it doesn't seem like I'm busy, right, it seems like
I have time, you know what I'm saying. So my
thing is, I guess I kind of prioritize in a

(03:36):
way to where I can make things work out. I've
been blessed with, you know, in the way my job
structure works out. It gives me time to do different
things and stuff like that. But yeah, it's just it's
just I just I just make time for it, man.
And it's like, I know, I know a lot of
people who be like, man, if I if I'm not
doing it at the house, I'm going to sleep or something, right, Like,
I can't. I don't think that way. And it's not
a situation where I had to grow to do that, right,

(03:58):
It's always been me. It's like I'm up, you know,
grew up. I'm up, I'm outside, I'm doing something, doing
something that's always been me. And it gets to the
point now where it's like if I'm if I'm at
the house all day but doing nothing, I'm miserable, like.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
I hate this.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
I hate this, bro, And so I gotta do something, man.
And to me, what that does It keeps the mind moving,
It keeps the mind sharp. You know what andything like
that if playing a video game, and they was talking
about how like when it comes to like Alzheimer's and
stuff like that. They said a way that it's a
video game. By the way, a possible way to combat
that is to keep the mind learning something new, because

(04:35):
keep keep keep the mind going, keep the mind doing
something whatever. And you know what I'm saying. And I've
always looked at that, even though it's just a video game.
I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna always learn something new,
I'm always do something and I'm just gonna expand my
life resume. You know, it's always help hitting my life resume.
So I want my life resume to be the size
of a book.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
So that's what I let's let's let's let's stop here
for a minute, because we're on a journey together and
sometimes we're gonna.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Take an exit off.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
So I want to take an exit off for this
into your life resume. Because I've never even heard the
term before. I'm sure the listeners hasn't either. But tell
us more about this idea of a life resume. How
did you develop it and what does it look like?

Speaker 1 (05:12):
So I came up with I say, I came with somebody.
Somebody probably said it for, but my thought behind it was,
when you when you die, the only thing you're going
to be remembered for is what you've done, right, who
you are and what you've done or whatever. And I

(05:32):
wanted to be like, in a selfish way, I want
my eulogy to last three hours.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Hold on, time out. I told y'all he was gonna
bring it. I told y'all, what, wait a minute, explain,
break it down, Break it down.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
So it's like the eulogy when they talk about they
always talk about the good you've done, the person you are.
You see what I'm saying, And y'all, I've been a
lot of funerals, unfortunately, but I've been the funerals where
the unity is not that long that the person that's
given you you don't really know the person they're talking about,
you know what I'm saying, stuff like that, And it's like,
that's not what I want. I want my unity to

(06:09):
be long, like this is what this guy did, and
then on top of that, this is what he did
for other people, you know what I'm saying. So that's
stout and that to me, that's part of that life resume.
Within that life resume we talk about we talk about
bucket lists. So of that, right, I'm the type of
person I will add to my bucket list and check
it off right then and there. So my bucket list

(06:30):
is more than just it's a forever changing list, right,
it can always be updated. So I'll do something I
never was on my bucket list that, I'll do it
and be like, you know what, that's a bucketst item.
Let me add that to it, mark it off. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
So if you could share, what, what's the last bucket
list item you did something from?

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, the last thing I did was about two weeks ago.
I jumped in the golf of Mexico and I can't swim,
so I jumped in that bitch and swim out. Now,
mind you, as soon as I jumped in, I got
right back on that boat. I ain't stop me. But
it was crazy because like they you know, I've jumped,

(07:10):
I've jumped off. I jumped thirty five feet into a
lake before. I can't swim, but I had a life
jacket on. I had alight jacket on, and then in
my head I'm like, I trust this life jacket. It's
around the neck everything like this. The one in Mexico
it was around the waist. It was like around the
stomach or something like that. It was like a new
lif jacket. W It's like, he's around the stomach. I
didn't trust that thing. I'm like, I don't this isn't
gonna work. I need something around my neck. It's like,

(07:31):
it's fine, it's fine. Everybody already in the water. Everybody
in the water. So I'm like, all right, I'll do it.
So he and my thing is, I'm like, I'm standing
there and I'm nervous. I mean, I'll tell you my stomach,
bro my chest everything. But then I was like, if
y'all count down, I'll jump. It's like, if y'all count
me down, I will jump. I promise you that. So
they count me down. Said, fuck it, they did they part.

(07:53):
I gotta do mine. So I jumped in there. Man
came up and it was like and it was like, uh.
My cousin Tammy was there and she was like just relaxed.
I'm relaxing, and I started just going with the wave
because I'm relaxed, right, I'm just start going with the waves,
going back like I said, I can't swim, so I'm
just listening to her, just going with the waves, going
with the wave. And then there was a little turbulence
because it was real choppy it was with Wendy, and

(08:14):
a little bit got in my mouth from my nose whatever,
and I immediately started the panic, and he started the panic.
Right now, I'm still floating, but in my mind I'm drowning,
right even though I'm still floating and stuff. Oh, trust me,
this is a message. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
This is a message. So I'm here.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
So so I had I had lost that relaxation right,
and for this specific moment, for this like reality situation,
I couldn't get that moment back. I couldn't get that
relaxation back. So I had to get back on the
boat or whatever, right and then calm myself down and
everything like that. And I was fine after that. But
when I got done it, my chest was hurt. I'm like,
what's my chest hurting? And my friendly like he was panicking.

(08:53):
My chest was literally hurting from panic, you know what
I'm saying. But I was floating the whole time. I
was safe the whole time, but I was panicking over
just a little bit of choppy waters.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Ooh, you get a word. Word?

Speaker 1 (09:05):
I do this, man, I do this in my sleep. Mane,
I love it.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
I'm here for it. I'm here for it.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
So this connects and to the listeners, this connects to
what I share about us being willing to do something new,
different and uncomfortable every single day. And how I'm just
curious how being from Dayton and ended up in the
Gulf of Mexico. Like those two parallels, they just don't
really connect, like I can't and not even that like
you just you travel the globe, you travel the world.

(09:32):
How have you been able to uh be this version
of you that's a risk taker that don't mind just
jumping out there, trying different things, putting your life at risk.
Like for you to jump to go to Mexico and
ksewim that is a risk that a lot of people
are willing to take it, willing to take it, and
you survive it and tell the story about it. Where
did this this courage come from? Because it sounds like

(09:54):
courage to me.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yes, I see so many people around me growing up,
people around me now where they just coast, they're just coasting.
It's just coasting man, and I'm like, I mean, that's
cool for you, but like, in order to get in
order for me to be greater, I have to do
something I have to done before. How can you grow

(10:18):
by doing the same thing, right, So it's like I
have to do something I haven't done before. So I've
just kind of like became that mantra of myself. It's like,
I'm just gonna do it. There's a term that we
use an improv you know what it's because improv comedy
helped me with this as well. But there's a term
we use an improv that's called we just say get
off the wall. So the idea of getting off the

(10:40):
wall means when you're when you're doing in the improv scene,
you're just on the wall watching what's happening, but getting
off the wall and getting in the scene and doing something.
So I live by that by saying, you know what
I'm saying. If I never get off this wall, I'll
never know you know what I'm saying. So I have
to get off the wall and do something. And then,
like I said, it's like it's one of the situations
where I can always tell this story. Yeah, if I

(11:01):
never jumped in that water. I would never be able
to tell this story. You see what I'm saying. I'm
still here, still can't it still standing, but I can.
I have a story now, and I don't want my
story to be I should have. Man, I thought about it,
you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't want that
to be my story. I wanted to be. I did.
I messed up, I fucked the whatever, but at least
I did it, you know some of that. So it
came from that man, And like I said, a lot

(11:23):
of it is due to improv and just understanding that
get off the wall mindset and just saying fuck it
and just going to go do it and just live
with the results and stuff.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
So oh wait, oh he's dropping gems. Listen, Kevin is
hitting y'all in the head with honey. But I understand
you getting busted upside their head with truth, with love,
just risk taking and willing to just step out the
comfort zone. And as you said, get off the wall.
And for the listeners who are still stuck on the
wall in life and whatever it is that you're doing,

(11:51):
I hope this story gives you what you need to
get off that wall. So with that being said, I'm
curious to learn more. You know, you're you're well educated,
college educated, and you do all these different things. How
do you or what made you decide I'm not just
gonna do one thing. I'm more than just my job.
I'm more than just an entertainer, more than just a rapper.

(12:12):
How did you develop this sense of I can do
all things?

Speaker 1 (12:22):
I think it's just from a from a standpoint of
just doing I like these things, you know what I'm saying.
I like these do I like to do these things?

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Right?

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Like? This stuff interests me. I always felt like growing
up a lot of my interests was based off of
what other people would think.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Oh turn out, whoa listen, I keep trying to worry
you hitting me right now?

Speaker 3 (12:48):
So please could you repeat that and then dive in
a little bit deeper?

Speaker 1 (12:53):
This is sorry, all right. A lot of my a
lot of my interests was based off of what other
people think, which means I'm afraid. I was afraid to
take chances because I was afraid of what somebody else
is going to say, and what I had to do
was honestly, it was like there was like a like

(13:13):
a female friend I had who was going through something
with her boyfriend or whatever, right, and I was just
talking to her and everything like that, and she was
crying everything like that, and I was like, you over
here crying over this guy who's probably sleep like a
baby right now. I'm not even worried about you and
you over here crying he sleeped like a baby. And

(13:34):
then I thought about that. It was like, I need
to practice that myself. Why am I putting so much
effort in what somebody else think when in actual why
they might not be thinking the damn thing, might not
care at all. I don't know, you know what I'm saying.
But it's like they might say this, they might say that,
I don't know. So I'm going to do me and
I'm going to have fun doing it. And that's and

(13:56):
that's been the the whole, the whole thing of it
is just doing that. So once I once I figured
that out and started doing that, it was like, you
know what, Yeah, I'm gonna go do it. Yeah, I'm
gonna do it. You know I'm saying because like I said,
a lot of stuff I do, a lot of black
people will be like, well you do that, that's what
white people do. I don't know where that comes from,
but that's what they say. That's what white people do.

(14:16):
You see what I'm saying, Like I play dungeons and Dragons,
I play magic, the gathering, everything like that. You know
what I'm saying. Because it's fun to me. You know
what I'm saying. I enjoy it. So why am I
putting a cap on my level of happiness? Right?

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Like?

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Why am I putting? Ah? Why am I putting a
roof over my own house? If the sky's a limit
for me? You know what I'm saying. So it's like,
why why why do I have a roof over here?
You know what I'm saying. So I just I just
took the roof off and said, I'm just. I'ma just
go as as a cancer.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
When I say bars, we're just talking.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
When I say bars, oh my god, the ceiling and
the roof in my house, like you really going to
a level. And I hope you all are paying attention
to what's being said. I'm curious to know the how
did you discover? First of all, man, I'm living my
life based off of excuse me, what people think? How
did you discover that? And then to move past it?
I'm choosing not to do that anymore.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
How did you do that? I discovered it when I
realized I had a lot of regrets.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Who once, let's go.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, So like once my regrets started piling up, then
I have to do my what do you call it,
my self assessment into why do I regret this? You
know what I'm saying. And then the why was most
of the time was well, I regret it because I
really wanted to do it, but I didn't. Well why
didn't you do it?

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:39):
And every time it came back to because I was
worried about what other people say.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
My goodness. So what I'm hearing is three parallels in action.
Who you were, who you are here becoming. So you
were having conversations with different versions of yourself, and it
sounds like your future self, better self, healthierself, was able
to kind of rationalize your truth. Yes, and that rationalization
of your truth allowed what you just what you said earlier,
allowed you to have freedom to choose, freedom to do,

(16:07):
and not concern yourself about other people's opinion perspective about you,
because it didn't matter. What matter was your opinion, your perspective,
which is powerful and a lot of people haven't been
able to do what you've done.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
That's huge.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, And I think what it is is because society
will put us in.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
A box and go somewhere we go.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Society puts us in a box. But well, I think
sometimes what we don't realize is that because of the
position of where we're at, we put ourselves in that box.
Do we feel this is the way because society says
this is what's going on, this is where we need
to be, that's where we are. And my thing is
just trying to understand that it's not about like to me,

(16:56):
like once the whole once George Floyd happened to me
and I started to really dig deeper on the country
and what's been told to me and what the lie
like when it comes to like the books in elementary
school or what there was teachers and like that. Once
I unlocked that myself, I'm like, well, I'm I'm questioning everything.
Then you know what I'm saying, I'm questioning the why

(17:17):
on everything. Another thing that I've learned from improv is
the idea of justification. So everything that happens, I need
justification on why this happened. If I can justify it,
then my question has been answered, because justification means you're
answering the why, you know what I'm saying. So I've
been I've been trying to find justification and stuff. So

(17:37):
when it comes to what society tells me, Like if
it's a situation where you know, I said, the man's
supposed to do this, the man's supposed to do that,
I'm like, why is this society telling me? This is just?
What's the justification on the why of this? You see
what I'm saying. And once I realized that, it's like, okay,
then debunk that. I'm going to do what I want
to do. And then and the funny part about that
is once I did that, once I started doing me

(17:59):
and just one who I am, that's when all the
goods started coming. Everybody appreciated it. Everybody respected like, man,
you do everything, but everybody respected it, you know what
I'm saying, because I no longer had that box for
what I wanted to do and stuff.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
So, oh, man, when you say justification, I love what
you're talking about because you're speaking a whole other language.
And that whole other language is the ability to question,
the ability to challenge, the ability to find facts behind
or facts and evidence behind the beliefs. And when I
call with that, because you're sharing the same thing, a
different concept is two plus two is five.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Two plus t was four.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
The difference between these two equations one is a fact
and one is a belief. And like I'm saying, within
our country, within our society, there's a lot of beliefs
that we were taught and told that we live by
to be facts even though they're not.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
So you've gotten to a place in your life where.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
You question everything everyone, where you're trying to find justification
or facts or evidence behind what's being said or told,
and you're realizing a lot of things that you were
taught and told may not be valid based off of
new information. So how have you been able to just
navigate learning in real time? Like Yo, I was talking,

(19:10):
I believe this my whole life, and now I'm questioning
it because I have different information that that belief or
that fact that I thought I knew is.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
No longer true true.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
How did you make the connection of number one, challenging
these beliefs and ideologies and then deciding I'm going to
do things my way and getting results immediately?

Speaker 3 (19:32):
How did you get.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
How did I how did I question?

Speaker 2 (19:41):
You're questioning things that for us as black folks specifically,
we don't question Number one, We're not questioning because we
were talking and told not to and when it comes
to an opinion of perspective, our parents will give it
to us.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
We don't want to get to have one.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
So how did you overcome that culturally to begin question
things globally to find out who you were individually or authentically.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
So it's not on the same level. So I know
this is what I'm about to say is not on
the same level. But I look at it if I
if I can give an answer, try to give an answer.
I look at it in the same way as somebody
who's trying to come out the closet or somebody who's
you know, saying come out the claus or whatever. I

(20:27):
knew something was different. I knew, you know what I'm
saying like, and I don't remember I'm not gearing, nohing
like that, but it's like I knew something like I
was fighting something right, I was fighting something within me
or whatever right, and I had to just come to
the realization where it's like I'm tired of hurting you
see what I'm saying. And I was hurting because I
wasn't being myself. And myself is like you knew me

(20:50):
ever since I grew up. It was all video games.
It was all video games. That's all it was. All
it was was all it was. So when I at
the time, when it came to college, I'm like, well,
I want to do computer science. You know what I'm saying.
I'm looking around. There's no black people in there. Yeah,
So I immediately almost shut down because I didn't see
a lot of black people in there. But then I

(21:11):
had to sit back because I talked to Greg a
long time ago. I talked to Grass like, now I
might go, I might go do something else. You know.
He's like for what. He's like, Man, you don't show you.
He was like, he was like, you're running. He's like,
you're running from the situation whatever. Right, And I was
running because it was only me in there and that
was something I was fighting with or whatever.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Right.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
But it was like Kevin, I like this stuff. Kevin,
you like you know what I'm saying, computers, You like
this stuff. Just go do it? Just go do you
like it? You see what I'm saying. And that's another
situation where I was taking away my likes and this
is what I like to do based on other people.
And now that I look back at it, like that's

(21:51):
the dumbest thing in the world. It's the dumbest thing ever.
Like I can't I can't imagine myself ever doing that again.
I really can't. And it was that like that was
just fighting it. I was fighting the whole time, and
it was like, I'm ready to stop fighting. When when
I started taking the improv classes, I just did it
because I was like, let me see what this doing whatever.
I walked in there and I've been there every day.

(22:12):
First in my life. I tell you, I'm in love
with improv comedy. I'm literally in love with it. And
I would have never known if I didn't do it
because it's not a lot of black people that do it.
So it's like when you go to our shows, it's
probably just I'm probably wanted only black people there. But
I love it and I don't care anymore, you know
what I'm saying, Like I love it a lot.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, So two questions come from that first thing, big
shout out to Greg. You mentioned Greg, And one thing
about this show I love how organic it is. Anybody,
any guests that shouts out somebody, I want to bring
that person on as a guest. So now that person,
Greg will be a participant on this show because you
spoke it.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
And I just believe in the ripple effect, the ripple effect.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
You throw a rock in the pond and there's gonna
be a ripple around it. So you sharing this experience
in this story and someone who's connected to it, Now
I want that person on the show so he can
create a ripple that can open up the doors for
so many other things.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
So that's the first.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
The second for you as you're navigating all these different spaces,
and what I'm hearing that theme is you're usually the
only black person in all these different spaces. How do
you navigate and have confidence and comfort and navigating these
spaces being the only person, the only one, only black male,
doing these different things?

Speaker 3 (23:26):
How do you navigate that?

Speaker 1 (23:28):
I think the biggest, the easiest way for me to
navigate it is stay true to myself. So it's like
I know, no matter where I go, for I'm always
a worry of my surroundings. So soon as I walk
into any situation, I already know I'm probably only black
out here within five seconds, right, but within that, I'm
still just going to be me, you know what I'm saying.

(23:48):
So the way I talk to you right now, the
same way I talked about bass, same way I talk
to my white fends, same wy I tek the black fans.
No one has ever accused me of like code switching
or something of that. I've never done that, you know
what I'm saying, Because I know who I am. All
my white friends that I have, I have a lot
of white friends, they all know me. They and they
know me to the point where it's like the dudes

(24:09):
and don'ts and we've never had the conversation. Right. But
also it's that aura, right, that energy, my energy brings
me around. White people who have the same energy as me,
were on the same page. So I've never had to
question it, you know what I'm saying, Like they're the
question thing when we're black people whatever, like we people

(24:29):
in our neighborhood and stuff like that. If they two
hood for me, the energy is off. It's not it's
not gonna work, you know what I'm saying. All the
black friends I got, we got the same energy. They
still do their thing. But they know me, you know
what I'm saying, and it's it's it's a beautiful thing, man,
when I'm right here just doing my thing and everybody

(24:50):
can gravitate towards me and respect me for doing these
different things that either they wouldn't do it or they
can't do you know what I'm saying. So it's been beautiful.
It's been beautiful.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah, you mentioned and this is this is just higher level,
higher level thought, higher level perspective. You mentioned aura and energy,
and it sounds like you're attracting people, places, and things
because or an energy. Could you share more with the
listeners about what that means, this aura and this energy
that you have and it's being centered, That's all I heard.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yes, I feel when it when it comes to energy
and everything like that, Like you you don't force that
right you are you are, you are who you are
right and your energy will will show that. I have
always and a big part of my energy is my confidence.
No matter what I do, I will always have confidence

(25:40):
in what I do. I can be completely wrong, right,
like like if it comes to me like playing golf,
whatever I golf, whatever I'm bad, I'm not good at it.
I'm not good at it at all, but damn it,
I'm swinging that club of confidence. I swing it with
confidence and they can like, yeah, I'll play with Kevin.

(26:01):
Come on, man, we're going we're going to play all.
Respect it. You know what I'm saying. You ain't the best,
but I respect it. You see what I'm saying because
you're trying, you know what I'm saying. So my confidence
and anything that I do shows people that It's like, Okay,
he's cool, peeples, he's a good person, you know what
I'm saying. Like I've met people for the first time
and we just talked for like out like talk for
days on Internet and stuff like that, right, and I'll

(26:21):
meet him for the first time in like a different
state or something like that, and it's an instant click.
And it's because I just know I'm being myself. It's
that whole, real, recognized, real thing. You know what I'm saying.
I've always been just myself and I can go I
can go anywhere and get and get loved no matter
where I'm at. And it's just that confidence, man, And
it's like it's I wish I knew how to obtain it, right,

(26:42):
Like to give it to somebody else, like this is
how you obtain this confidence. But I think the easiest
way to say it is like you have to be
you have to be tired of the monotony right you have.
You have to be tired of the complacency of where
you are, Like, you have to be tired of it.

(27:03):
You see what I'm saying. You have to be tired
because if you won't grow, you know what I'm saying, Like,
you have to be able to get tired of that stuff.
So that's it's hard to explain that stuff, man, But
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
You explaining it.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
You're explaining it very well to me and I'm sure
to the listeners as well. So as I mentioned before
to the listeners, I hope you're writing this stuff down.
Some of these concepts and ideas that he's sharing. Some
may hit home, some may hit you in the head,
some may hit you later because the things whatever's not
connecting now. It's a perspective that you may not have
arrived to just yet, but you'll get there because it

(27:34):
took work and evolution for you to become this version
of you. Which leads me to another question, Like we
grew up same hometown, same family, whole background, and both
of us are completely different who we are presently than
our upbringing. Like just the way we live life, the
way we move is very different than how we were raised.
So I'm curious, how have you been able to make

(27:57):
this transition where you're a totally different person, uh now
than you were from where you're raising your environment.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
I think starting off, it was almost like a rebellious
type thing. Honestly, I didn't want to go back to
living the way I lived, the way I grew up whatever, right,
Like nobody wants to be poor, right, so it's like
I don't. I don't like that. So I was distancing
myself from anything that would uh trigger those habits or whatever,

(28:28):
right Like I mean, for example, hypothetically it's this wasn't
the case, but like ramen noodles, Like nope, I remember
I did that as a kid. I don't want do
that no more. You see what I'm saying stuff like that,
But on a on a grander scale, you know what
I'm saying when it comes to that stuff. But it
started as a rebellious thing or whatever, like I don't
want to go back. But as I was, I was
in it of being at rebellious part. It was, like

(28:49):
I said, I started developing like Okay, I'm I'm enjoying this.
I'm liking this, you know what I'm saying, Like, and
got to the point to where it's like now I'm
at a point where I can respect where I was
from and what happened, because now I understand that's what
got me here. You see what I'm saying. I feel
like everybody there's a point in everybody's life. I tell

(29:11):
people all the time, like if every person has a book,
there's always a point in your life where you're going
to have to do a start new chapter right, and
that new chapter base is based on a decision you make.
I'm like, at some point in everybody's like, I don't
care what your upbringing was, rich, poor, whatever, there's a
certain point in your life where you can either go

(29:31):
this way or that way, and it's all about the
choice that you make. You can't blame nobody for that choice.
It's a choice you have to make and you're either
going left it right. You see what I'm saying. Now,
when you go that's on you. But you have to
look deep within yourself and accept that you made that choice.

(29:52):
You see what I'm saying, You made that choice. So,
like I said, it's like when when people struggle and
everything like that and theyve growing up in a rough
home and stuff like that. I do feel for I
really do, because no one should have to go through
that type of stuff, but especially if you're an adult
at this point, it's hard for me to fully sympathize
with the past if you're still living like your past.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Oh bar, another bar. I ain't gonna be able to
contain you this. I can't contain it. Could you please
go back to that share that one more time?

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Like, I can't fully sympathize for you with your past
if you're still living your past right like, because there
hasn't been growth, because it's hard for me to believe
you had no options. It's hard to be believe you
had no no decisions in your life that you could
have made. You know what I'm saying, Like, everybody has
a choice at some point. I'm not saying everybody has

(30:49):
choice but everything, but everyone has a choice at some point,
and it's sometimes you have to you have to make
a certain decision. So that's that's how I look at it,
right so even when it comes to and I've always
been this way, it's like when it comes to like
and sometimes it's just within you, right, sometimes just in you.
So be Growing up, it was like if things got
hard for me, I was just literally like, fuck it,

(31:10):
I gotta deal with it. I gotta do it. Let's go.
And that was just in me. There was no spark.
That was just that's always been in me. You know,
my situation my dad when I was in Florida, it
was like, fuck, I gotta do it, Manny, can I
stay with you? I just gotta do it. I just
gotta go, right. And that was eighteen, you know what
I'm saying, trying to figure that stuff out. So that's
something that's always been in me. Is when the going
gets tough, of course, you know, I just got to

(31:30):
keep going and stuff.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
So oh man, oh man, this is beautiful. This is beautiful.
So I want to get to celebration of who you are,
celebration of life, Like how do you cause?

Speaker 3 (31:43):
I love to hear the story. I love you sharing it.
I love you.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Know. People get to know this side of you, this
version of you. I'm curious to know. Do you celebrate
who you are? Now, and how do you celebrate this
growth like to come from where you come from and
to be where you are right now, and you like constantly, Oh,
I'm just starting, I'm just starting, I'm just I'm just getting,
you know, I'm just building in this.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
How do you celebrate you and these major accomplishments.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
The part of me, the present me, I can't really
say I celebrate a lot because I'm so busy in
it right I'm in it, and it's hard for me
to celebrate what I'm currently in. I can, yeah, I don't. Yeah,

(32:34):
I think I was about to lie. Even when I
look back where I came from and everything like that,
it's easy, like celebrate where you came from everything. I
recognize where I came from, but it's hard for me
to celebrate it because I ain't know. I'm not done yet,
right so, and I know that's not that's part of
the future me of understanding the celebration in the moment.
But I'm not there yet. I'm too busy trying to

(32:56):
get to the next level, you know what I'm saying.
So it's hard for me to celebrate right now because
I know I'm not done. It's easy for somebody to
look on the house said, man, it's easy for you
to say I'm still working. I'm still doing this, you
know what I'm saying. So I know that's growth, that's
growth that I need within me. But I'm so I'm
so into what I'm doing that I know I'm not

(33:18):
there yet, and it's like it's hard for me to
celebrate that.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Gotcha, gotcha. So I want to offer you something. This
is free, This is real, organic. It's happening because I
understand where you are because I was there. And what
that means is is a very black and white mentality.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Either I win or I lose. You know, it's win
and lose. It's very black and white.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
So I'm just trying to win, which means every time
I show up, I need.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Comfetti to fall.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
I need competti to fall because I'm trying to win
a championship, not recognizing that everything that I'm doing is practice.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
For the championship.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
If you think about any professional athlete in the world
that's ever won a championship, I promise you I can
almost guarantee that they've practiced two to three times as
more as as much as they ever won a championship.
So that practice piece is a part of the celebration
of I get to do this in order to do this,
so to go a little bit deeper, I love to

(34:11):
use this analogy related to the salamander and the gator
and what I hear from you and what I see
from you and what I know from you. You are
a gator, however, you may not fully live that gator life.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
I gotta talk about it, the Gator life. There's five
seeds to Gator life.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
There with gator life, being a gator, understand the gator,
a lot of things rub.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Off their back, fall off their back.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
They got scales and what you're saying, a lot of
things fall off your back because you're not You're no
longer investing in the opinion or perspective of other people.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
That's gator talk. So you do the gator talk. Part
of that Gator talk. Number one.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
The first seed is consistency. Gators are consistent. You've proven
that consistent no matter what, Like you said, I may
not be the greatest one, I'm gonna keep singing, You're consistent.
I just want to give that gator love for a minute,
all right. That's the first thing consistency. The second thing
is curiosity. You're curious. I wonder what life would be
if I jumped in this damn golf with with with

(35:07):
no swimming experience.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
You don't have to keep adding and no swimming experience.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
We got you.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
I got nobody jumps in the golf of Mexico that
cannot swim, but you, nobody's doing nobody's doing that. So
I gotta talk about it. I gotta talk about it's
people that can swim that will not do it. I
just want to give you that, man, I gotta give it.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
To you, all right. So consistency curiosity number three creative.
Gators are creative. Man. You created an empire by yourself,
develop a team. You did all these different things.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
I gotta give you your flowers because it's hard to
smell them if I'm focused on the goal. I'm focused
on the championship trophy, right, I can't celebrate in between.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
So gators are creative.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
You already proven that creativity comes from authenticity. You are
as authentic as they come, and you know it, and
you're comfortable and confident in it. Not arrogant, but confident.
So that's what gators are. The fourth sea of gators.
Gators are courageous.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Did we mention GoF of Mexico. We're gonna leave that
out there right there.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
The last thing, keV, I can't have you talking this
gator talk and not finishing the gator talk, because the
last see that gators do is they celebrate before, during,
and after whatever it is that they do. They celebrating before, during,
that after. Meaning as many the listeners in anybody Black knows,
you know, with our grandmothers or within the culture community,

(36:34):
it's always said, you know there is you're in the
middle of the storm, you just got out of the storm,
or you're preparing to get into a storm, and they storm.
To me is life, the ups and downs of it.
So I would challenge you, and this is in real time,
I would challenge you to reconsider your celebration meaning it's
whatever you say it is. So for example, I'll share
mind one way I celebrate of making it out and

(36:58):
being different and coming a better version of me.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
I'll give you two examples.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
One I barely graduated high school and what was important
to me during that time in high school was getting
a pair of shoes. I couldn't afford pair of jordansm
So for me, that was my highest level of success
with getting a pair of shoes because I never thought
I would graduate high school, let alone go to college.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Let them go a longet a PD. So to celebrate
who I was at that time in the classroom. Now
as a professor, I wear Jordans more often than not.
That's me celebrating who I was because he's a part
of me. Part two, This is my business. You ain't
gotta share it every now and then. I need a
couple of rhym of noodles, I need some spam, I
need some pot of meat.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
I carry it in my frigerator, in my cabinet to
celebrate where I've been. I don't have to do this.
I choose to do this.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
That's gator talk.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
So I want to challenge you, man, challenge this idea
like you made it out, dude, celebrate every day.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
How do I celebrate? I made it out?

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Because I know exactly where I was. I can drive
out of it right now. I just want to talk facts.
Consider consider it because you live life currently as a gator.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Gater, celebrate man.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
One thing I love about gators as well, the underbrelly
is vulnerability and you're sharing your vulnerability because with the
gator that Underbrella being vulnerable, no one has access to
it unless they want you to have access. So it's
hard for me to sit up here and watch a
gator and not see you what your gator had on
celebrating birthday. So I challenge you for that in real time.

(38:33):
So we're gonna to use a moment that's your life work,
use some life now, and you're going to share some
life work with the audience before we finish up. So
I want to switch gears to some rapid fire questions.
And the first question, because you're so eloquent in sharing
the different versions of you, because you know yourself so well,
how would you describe who you were, who you are,

(38:55):
and who you are becoming those three versions?

Speaker 3 (38:58):
How would you describe that? Uh?

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Like I said, what the person I was was very
very focused on other people than myself, other people's thoughts,
other people's opinions, things like that. I was very focused
on other people's stuff before myself. Where I'm at now

(39:24):
is at a point where I feel like I understand
my purpose in life and it's about helping other people
and helping other people become better humans better versions of
themselves because I've I've learned that I really really get
excited when other people succeed, Like it's weird, Like I

(39:46):
really get excited and I really like other people smiling,
you know what I'm saying, And I didn't, you know
what saying. I never realized that until I realized that,
you know what I'm saying. Uh, And that was the
point of me doing the whole festival before them. By dating,
It's like I get to see people smile every year,
you know what saying, doing that stuff. But but where

(40:07):
where I want to go, Like I said, my future
self is I think we just talked about this, like
I want to be able to be comfortable saying yeah, yeah, yeah,
I did that, yeah, and I'm and I'm doing it,
you know what I'm saying. I want to be I
want to be comfortable with that because like I said,
it's still what's funny is like me not being comfortable

(40:28):
with that. It's probably still me thinking about what other
people may think, you know what I'm saying, Like I
don't want to see cocky or arrogance or anything like that,
and that could be a thought of other people may
see me as that way if I do that, So
it's all still intertwined.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
You know, I love like, I love it, But yeah,
sot out of your life. You're connected with a lot
of different people and different types of people. What would
you say you've learned about people over the years.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
What I've learned about people is everybody's going through something.
Who like, like, I mean, everybody's going through something. You
know what I'm saying. And the degree of what that
level is what they're going through it varies, but they're

(41:19):
level three of going through something. May be my level one,
but it's still going through something, you see what I'm saying.
So I can't be one to be like, man, I
ain't no big deal. It's a big deal to them,
you see what I'm saying. And I had to be
able to like sit back and like almost like stop
judging people, you know what I'm saying, Like, hey, listen,
it's a big deal to them. Be compassionate and see

(41:40):
if there's way you can help, See if there's a
way you can be Yeah, you may not think it's
a big deal, but they do. And you can see
how they're reacting to it. And just by me knowing
that everybody's going through something. It helped me realize and
be comfortable knowing that and not everybody's perfect. And if
I know to know about not everybody's perfect, I don't
put anybody on a pest because I understand nobody's perfect.
You see what I'm saying, So I'm not I'm not

(42:02):
looking for you. I'm not looking for perfection in any person.
I'm looking for you to be yourself. You know what
I'm saying, Like, that's that's what that's what I want.
So that's that's what That's what I've learned a lot,
you know I'm saying when it comes to that, it's
just not everybody's perfect. Man, when I come to every
single individual, I've learned that, and that helped me respect
them and helped me look at them as human, look
at them with a certain level of you know what

(42:23):
I'm saying, who they are and stuff like that. That
helped me out a lot.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
So I love it. I love it.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
What's a word, phrase, memory, or moment that has stuck
with you personally or professionally.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
It was a it was a phrase I heard. I
don't know where I saw that. I know they would
have saw that, but the phrase was when going through hell,
keep going yeah, and it was like I heard that
and I was like, huh, it was so simple, but
I was like, yeah, you go, oh yeah, yeah, that's fire.
That's no pun intended. I was fire though, but I

(43:00):
live by that, you know what I'm saying. And then
like the other phrase, like I said that get off
the wall. That get off the wall has really helped
me too. It's like, go out there and do something
and go be something with yourself, whatever, take chances things
like that, you know, get off the wall. So that's
that's been my thing more than anything. Get off the
wall for sure.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Yeah, oh man, this is great. This is great.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
So I don't know, we may need a whole other
episode for this next question, but if you could summarize
you mentioned, I understand my purpose. I discovered I found
out what my purpose is. How can someone discover their purpose?

(43:38):
But you discovered something about yourself. It took something for
that to happen. So if you could offer it to someone,
where would they go? How do you begin looking to
find out what my purpose is?

Speaker 1 (43:51):
I think I think it starts with truly looking into
looking inside yourself and figuring out what it is you
do to make you happy or whatever? Right like, what
what makes me happy? I don't care if I've never
done it, I don't care if no one knows it.
I'm talking to me. I'm talking within myself right now.
I'm in the room by myself, and I'm talking to myself.

(44:13):
What makes me happy? You know what I'm saying, because
what happens is everybody feels like it's not everybody. There's
people that feel like, Man, nothing makes me happy. I'm
so sad. I don't believe it. I'm not one to
believe that, and I refuse believe it. Something makes you smile.
Something makes you smile right now, If you want to

(44:36):
force yourself to not think of that, that's on you.
But something makes you smile. What is it? Whatever?

Speaker 3 (44:43):
That is?

Speaker 1 (44:45):
What gets you there? What helps you get to that point?
You see what I'm saying. And like I said, my
thing was, what helps me get to smiling is seeing
other people happy people. I love seeing other people. I
love be happy. You see what I'm saying. Like I'll
watch I'll watch like like a like a game show

(45:07):
or something like that, like if it's American Idol or
something like that, And I wouldn't. I would turn it
off if somebody is getting bad news because I don't
like that feeling. I don't like that feeling. And it's
not even me.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
I don't like that feeling.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
But I love watching them win. You see what I'm saying,
Like it's it's and it's like it's hard to explain it.
That's just me. But it's like understanding your purposes, like
I said, being comfortable with who you are and understanding
what makes you happy. You have to start there because
being in your purpose means you're doing something that you know,
this is what you're meant to do, and it's something
that you enjoy doing. You're not going to be in

(45:40):
your purpose and not like it and not enjoy it,
you know what I'm saying. So that's that's that's what
That's what I would say too, is first dig deep
down and figure out what makes you happy. Build from
there and build your life around that happiness. You know
what I'm saying, Like, that's where the energy come from.
Shift your energy to that happiness. You're going to get
other stuff. I understand that, but I can almost guarantee

(46:03):
if your energy is from a peaceful standpoint, there's gonna
be people. There's gonna be bad energy trying to penetrate, right.
They don't know they got bad energy, No one really.
Sometime a lot of people know that. It could be
your best friend, It could be your best friend. You
see what I'm saying. They got bad energy, and you'll
start to realize their bad energy. The more your a
positive energy grows, the more your energy grows, you'll start

(46:25):
to realize, Oh, their energy is not the same with man,
and you won't. You don't realize it in the forefront.
You just know something's off. You just know something's off.
Y'all not talking as much a y'all used to blah
blah blah. The energy is different, you see I'm saying.
But but you have to you have to open yourself
up and receive that and know what that is. When
I be teaching, yeah, when I be teaching improv and

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stuff like that with the students, they'll do something good
and not know that they did something good. You se
what I'm saying, And I'm like, congrats, kudos on doing
something good. But in order to learn from it, you
have to know that you did something good. You have
to be able to understand you did something good. So
now you did it good. Now why did that work?

(47:08):
Now that you know why that worked, let's keep it going,
you know what I'm saying. Let's let's focus on that.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
And stuff like that. So yeah, powerful, powerful.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
I love the way you were able to summarize that
because it's a whole episode.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
That's the whole episode.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
That's a whole another episode. Man, that's a whole episode.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
I love it. So who would you say, is or
was your hero.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Or she ro?

Speaker 1 (47:32):
I would this is? This is? This is real? Right,
we've being organ It'll be you and Greg.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
That's real. Let's talk about.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
It to be you and Greg. I look at when
I think of Greg, I look at somebody and, like
I said, the basis of all of this is because
we all grew up the same way. So that's the
base of it. And I see where we are now whatever, Right,
But I look at Greg and I look at just
real business minded right and understands what he's what his

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thing is. You know what I'm saying, Hey, this is
my thing business. I like that, I like doing this
blah blah, and I respect that. And he's always had
my back growing up. You know what I'm saying. So
I've always respected that. And he's doing something positive, he's
making money, making moves and stuff like that. I've already
appreciate that. And what I look at with you is
it's the mind for me, right, Like every time I

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got to this point in my life where it's like
when I'm talking about, you know, saying my purpose like that,
because I've I've talked to colleges, elementary schools, middle school,
I'm talking to all types of kids about this type
of stuff. And I never wanted to do that. It
just happened or whatever. Yeah, I always look at you
for inspiration because I'm like, well, my cousin is doing
this type of stuff. You know what I'm saying. And

(48:46):
I noticed the older mean you got, the the more
deeper our conversations get. Right, It's not just about sports,
you know what I'm saying. It's like deep conversation. And
like I said before, it go back at the beginnings,
Like that's how the mind continues to grow. That's how
my mind always stays sharp. It is having those conversations.

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And I look at when I look at you, I
look at somebody who's very, very very secure with who
they are, right, and even you're doing this podcast, even
your your job, your degree, you're in the business of
helping people. And like I said, that's that's that's who
I am. That's that's me. I don't I don't got no,
I ain't get a doctorate.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
You know I.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Do. But but I like, I like helping people, you
know what I'm saying, And I can relate to that.
So when I see it happening with you, I relate
to it fully and I admire it because it's like,
that's that's what I'm that's the type of time i'm
you know what I'm saying is that it's that same aspect,
So it would be you and Greg. Don't tell nobody though.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
Oh well, the whole world knows now.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
And for me being the emotionally intelligent person that I am,
I receive my flowers, man, and I thank you for that.
I thank you for sharing that, And it means the
world to me because who I am and what I
do it's impactful directly and indirectly. So if that's you know, family,
you know, it's it's it's friends, it's colleagues, it's classmates,

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it's students, it's it's all these different people that I'm
able to impact and.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
Inspire just by being me and it to me what
you just share.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
It gives me permission to continue to be this, to
continue to push and challenge and change and shift, because
you never know how you impact other people by being
exactly who you are, with that giving you some flowers back.
I don't know if you know the impact that you
have on the listeners with everything that you're sharing in
your story and your truth. So I appreciate you being
here and being on the show to talk about it.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
I love it. I love it so a couple more
and we're gonna get out of here because you have
things question.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
What would you say is an interesting fact about yourself
or something about you that people wouldn't believe.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
I absolutely love musicals, like like Rent is one of
my favorite movies of all time.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Just give me, give me your top three musicals, Give
me your top three.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
My top three is Rent Is number one. I would
probably say Hamilton's number two, and the Book of Mormon
might be number three for me. The Book of Mormons.
I went and saw that when I was in England,
went and saw the player in England. I was like, hey,
I was like, bucket lists added check off.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Yeah, I really appreciate all of this because it's honest,
it's real, and no one would ever suspect that from
you or from anybody based off of where we're from.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Noo, he would ever believe it.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Like musical, like, hey, listen, man, I love musical.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Man.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
I mean I go to New York. I want to go.
I want to that's my That's another thing. I want
to go to a Broadway music. I don't give damn
what it is. I want to go to a Broadway musical.
Dress up, sit now and go watch a Broadway musical.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
It's going to happen. Because you speaking, you see that,
you shared it, It's going to happen. So when it does,
I'm on back.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Let's talk about it.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Last thing is not really a question, but an opportunity
to offer something to the listeners. On this show, we
offer life work. Life work is a little different from homework.
Homework you take it home, you do it, you turn
it in, you never remember it again. Life work, you
take it home, you do it. Your life will change.
So if you can offer something to the listeners to
encourage or impact them in order to shift to change.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
What would that be?

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Open up yourself, open up yourself to receive new everything,
new information, new opportunities, new people, new experiences. Like open
yourself up to that give yourself the ability to try it.

(52:46):
I think I forgot who said it, but it was
like nobody if you never jump, you never know if
you can fly, you know what I'm saying. So nobody
has become successful in anything without taking the chance. We
take a chance every single day and we just don't
realize it, you know what I'm saying. So just open
yourself up, man, and don't be locked in. Don't be

(53:09):
closed in. You have to get out there. You have
to get out there and just try it, man, because
I guarantee your life is way better when you try
things more than not trying it. You know what I'm saying.
Your life is way better. Man. You always have a
story to tell. So that's my thing.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Oh man, you just shut it down.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
You just shut the whole episode down. Shut the door.
Y'all just got hit upside the head with a honey bun. Listen,
you might have a little nod on your head after
listening to this episode. I just want to be real,
just want to be honest. So with that, man, thank you,
thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Appreciate it here.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Thank you for being you, thank you for sharing of
yourself with the listeners. I love the fact that we're
family and we can do this. You know, we're having
a conversation that we would normally have. We just bringing
people in to listen. We talked this all the time.
I really appreciate you, man, I love you. I'm so
proud of you. I can believe who you are and

(54:03):
who you are becoming because you said it, You've done it.
You have this mentality even from a young age, that
I want to try it. I want to do it,
I want to be good at it. I'm willing to
take a risk. I'm willing to try it. Let's see
what happens. You just always had this curiosity of let
me just see what happens. And here we are now
based off of let me see what happens.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
So, Man, I mend you.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Hats off to you. Keep pushing, keep going. So final thoughts, man,
the final thoughts, find up thing you want to share.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Yeah, like I said, if people are looking for podcasts
to listen to, you know what I'm saying. Along with yours.
I'm part of a podcast called The Novelizers. We're on
all streaming platforms. What we do is we take movies that,
for the most part, don't have books written to them,
and we do audiobooks to them. We have actual comedy

(54:52):
writers write chapters for the movie, and we have actors
and actresses narrated like an audiobook. We've at Pat Oswald, JK. Simmons,
Wayne Brady, We've had All I Wanted Man, and we're
we're doing our We just finished up our fourth season,
so we got three seasons on there. Now you know,
I'm a producer for it. I'm also I do improv

(55:13):
comedy on there. I improv on there and stuff like that.
So I will say, check that out. Man, it's uh,
it's growing. So it's it's pretty cool to be a
part of that stuff.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
So love it. Love it.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
And if people want to get in contact with you,
want to connect with, you, want to be involved, can
they get in contact with Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Instagram is at son of hip Hop. I also do
hip hop music.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
UH.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
I just released the vinyl UH with Safe called Safe
Money UH and it's also on all streaming platforms. But
UH S O N O F h I P H
O P. We'll just find me on Facebook Kevin Carter,
or you can go to my website www dot v
Kcarter dot com. So I'm also there as well. And
uh it sounds weird, but if you google me, if

(55:54):
you google k Carter, it'll pop up so you can
find anything. I'm the first one to pop up now,
so I made it.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
You are googleable. Now you know you're on another level,
on another level. I love it. I love it. I'm
here for it.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
So everyone, thank you, thank you all for tuning in again. Kevin,
thank you for being on the show. If this episode
has been beneficial, helpful, if it blessed you in any way,
don't keep the information to yourself, share it, give it away.
Tell people about this this podcast, Tell people about this episode,
Tell people about k Carter, Tell people about what helps

(56:31):
you in life. Because if I choose to share this
with someone, we don't know what could happen from them
getting this information. And to me, information rules the nation,
so the more we know, the higher we grow. This
has been another episode of the Three Pail Loves podcast.
What's Your hosts The Doctor Jason Branch, whill we transition
or transform? From where we were to accept who we

(56:53):
are and make room for the better version of ourselves.
Thank you for tuning in. I appreciate you. Have a
good night, good day, good morning, good week, good luck, peace,