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March 10, 2025 48 mins
Description: Dr. Branch interviews Mrs. Amy Rosa, the Senior Director of Enterprise Accounts at Motivo.  Amy shares how she left her small town in the Midwest and ventured out to Boston and then Los Angeles, trying different careers before finding her passion in the startup world. A major theme is Amy's identity as an empath - she discusses how she learned to navigate that and protect her energy. Amy also shares lessons she's learned, including the importance of not settling and always pushing yourself to be around people who can help you grow.  Amy provides advice to the listeners about finding your "zone of genius" - the things that energize you and keep your cup full. Overall, the conversation covers Amy's personal and professional growth, her spiritual journey, and insights she's gained that she hopes will benefit the listeners.

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3) Identify and lean into your “zone of genius” – the activities and environments that energize you and make you feel most alive. Make an effort to spend more time in your zone of genius. 

4) Explore and embrace your identity as an empath.  Seek out resources and practices to help you navigate and protect your sensitive energy.  

5) Reflect on past and current relationships and life decisions that no longer serves you.  Be willing to make tough choices to move forward, even if it means going against the advice of friends and family.  

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Amy is a coffee addict, wine enthusiast, and proud Maltipoo mom, surviving life one sip at a time. Married to her husband and living the dream in sunny SoCal, she retreats to Napa Valley whenever possible because, let’s face it, that’s where true happiness lies. On a holistic journey of self-discovery and growth, she embraces cheesy quotes and believes life should always be balanced — with a little coffee, a little wine, and a whole lot of fun! 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/maltipoociano/


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Speaker 2 (02:16):
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Speaker 5 (02:23):
Welcome back, Welcome back, Welcome back to the Three Parallels
podcast with your hosts The Doctor Jason Branch, where we
discover who we were, who we are, and who we
are becoming. In today's guests, we y'all better buckle up, Buttercup,
because this guess is I consider family, and y'all know
what I bring family on.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
We have a good time.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
And when I think about family, these could be people
less related to me, not related to me. I just
consider them as family. So you get it this high.
Are they related to me?

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Or are they?

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Are they not? But the reality is does it really matter?
Let's dive in. So who I'm bringing you on today?
This is Amy Rosa. Now I got to tell you
the story of how we met. So this was during
the spring twenty twenty four, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah,
I had to be this year where I was at work,
but not at work physically because I worked virtually and

(03:11):
I think it was like a Friday. I'm at the
dentist office in the parking lot, filling myself because I
had my glasses on my hat. I just finished my
check up. My dinnist said my teeth looked phenomenal. That's
a big deal for me. Because most majority of my life,
my dinners said, your teeth look a mess. So I
was already in a space of growth and change. And

(03:32):
then I reached out to Amy at Matievo because I
was interested in bringing Matibo into the university I work
at to help graduate students many of the listeners and
I hopped on the call filling myself, glasses on and
all having a conversation with Amy, and she accepted me
for who I was and what I brought to the table.
And there was just this kinetic energy that we had.

(03:53):
The smile, her personality, her energy, her heart, her vibe.
I just felt all of it and just felt from
that moment I got a friend for life. So now
you all can have a friend for life because I
want to introduce you to the one and only Amy
Roso welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Thank you so much, doctor Branch. That is an incredible introduction.
And I have to say your memory is spot on.
That's exactly what happened. I remember the second you said hi,
it was like an energy that we just were part
of the same, like life path or something.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yeah, fast forward six months later, stoke to be sitting
here with you today and let's stop my life.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
I love it. I love it now.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
Amy is the senior director of Enterprise Accounts at Motibo,
which is a mouthful.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Amy's a big deal. I need you to know.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
This is who y'all dealing with a big deal now,
before you became that, because this is who you are now,
before you got here.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I'm curious, the listeners are curious, who were you before this?

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yeah? Before this role? Oh my god, it took me
a while to get here, doctor Branch. I don't want
to age myself, but I'm kind of halfway through my
life and wh I was before?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Old time? Well time out now halfway? Do you like?
Do you know your death day? I know?

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Two shows? You know, you're just like you got up
in this reflective period of life, right you know? If
you know, how did I get here? What were some
of the things that these like milestone markers that led
me to the role that I'm at now? And I
do have to say professionally what I do every single day?
I adore. I feel like I found like my zone
of genius where it's like every every project or task

(05:28):
or interaction I have, it just feels like I'm exactly
where I should be like the energy alone in my
day is like my cup is overflowing. So I have
to just be so grateful that Motiva created the space
for me to really thrive and shine. But it hasn't
always been like this stuck a branch, like if I
would take yeah, let me take you back.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
To let's go We're here, that's why we're here, that's
why we are Let's go back.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Yeah. Starting with I think, let me just share a
little bit of my story. Born in the Midwest, you know,
pretty pretty sheltered life I did. I went to Catholic
school for the first grades, and then I went to
college and I remember one of my first interactions we
were talking about like the sign of the Cross, and
like someone didn't know what that was, and I was like,
how do you not know what the sign of the
Cross was? Right? And it was like this reality of

(06:11):
oh my gosh, I've lived like a pretty you know,
small community suburbs of Saint Louis. I'm like, there's got
to be more to life than this. Yeah, And so
I went on this quest and I'm like, how you
know a lot of my friends after college were like
settling down and getting married and I'm like, I'm really
just not in that place. So I'm going to hop
in my car and I'm going to go east. And
I landed in Boston, Massachusetts.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Wow, what just random? Did you have an idea goal
or you just went It's.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
So funny, honestly, I mean, I can't believe I want tomit.
This Armagannon had come out like two a year before.
I loved Ben Affleck and I knew that was from
where he was from. And I'm like, i am going
to Cambridge, Massachusetts and I'm going to find Ben Affleck.
So wow, I broke out of my comfort zone headed
to Boston. Knew one person that I had met at

(06:55):
a summer camp the summer before. We moved in together,
and I lived there for a couple of years and
that was my first like, you know, I like this
feeling right, like meeting people having diversity, like not back home.
I could call it anybody in time, and here I'm
in this. It's me figuring out this world, you know.
And so I was able to create a pretty incredible
community and did that for a couple of years and
started teaching special ed. So this is kind of like

(07:17):
I'll interwoove my personal and professional life because I feel
like it's kind of heato to how I found where
I'm here now. And so, you know, worked in special ed,
had an underground psychology, so it was definitely, you know,
kind of dabbling in what I thought I wanted to
do professionally. And then lasted my first nor ease during
New England and I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna
head west. It's way too cold here. My sister was

(07:37):
doing the Hollywood thing in LA and I'm like, let
me hop in my car and head west. And so
I did that and kind of didn't have a linear
career professionally, kind of you know, gained some skills in
each role that I did. I dabbled in insurance, dabbled
in marketing, kind of entered the startup world, which is
definitely my wheelhouse, and took some skills that led me
to where I am today. Wow.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
Wow, there's a lot to unpack here. No, no apologies
needs it. We don't apologize on this show. We do
not apologize for being.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Who we are.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
Okay, I'm not allowing it, so you can apologize off
this show, but on this show, we're not doing it.
So a couple of things number one. Ben Affleck is
single now, So there's that. There's that it's never too late,
It's never too late, just my humble opinion.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
So that's first. The second this no mad.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
It's a nomad lifestyle what I heard, but it's a
nomad in a very different way. And when I think
about nomad, it's someone who wanders intentionally based off of
what they feel. So it's not just I'm not just
out here doing whatever. No, I feel moved to be,
to go to do, and you did that. So I'm curious,

(08:48):
especially with your background, you know, how did you develop
this mindset of I'm just gonna go and figure it out.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah, you don't know if I developed it. I think
it was always a Nate like I just remember even younger,
like you know, I wanted to go to school out
of state, but oh, my parents like, oh, you don't
know what you want to do career wise, or I
wanted to study abroad. It felt like just my environment
felt limited, not intentionally, but just you know, they're doing
My parents raised me the way that they were raised right,
And so I think innately there was just this like

(09:16):
I know, there's so much more out there. I would
literally get inspired by all we call them cheesy quotes
and sayings, and I would just buy quote books and
like just like read them and feel like goosebumps over
these like inspirational sayings. And so I think, you know,
I feel like there's always something you want to do
something and something pushes you. And so sure enough I
was dating somebody out of school and his brother had
just turned eighteen and committed suicide two days after his birthday.

(09:38):
And so that was the life short I got.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
To mean it happen.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
Yes, yeah, wow, that's that's incredible, and thank you. Thank
you for your vulnerability, thank you for your authenticity, thank
you for sharing your story, Like this.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Is incredible, and we're just we're just at you know,
we have to beginning. We wanted twelve.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
Mens like that epiphany. It sounds like where it's always
it was under the surface this whole time, But there
were life moments that happened that allowed you to decide
I'm gonna bet on me, I'm gonna try some things.
And it sounds like it's been trial and there ever
since you left.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, But that's part of the journey, right,
that's the fun. If it was all mapped out for you.
I guess I just yeah, I like to push the
limits and mentor into the unknown.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
So that's not normal, like Amy, I know you're just
saying it, like I just that's not the norm from
my humble experience. No, just like think about the opposite
for you another cross that's the norm, right, And then
you go to college and you discover what do you mean?
You don't know this? So you live a life that
you're so aware of and you're aware of yourself, and

(10:49):
it's such your norm. It's not considering the majority. And
this is my opinion, this is my perspective. I don't
know for sure, like it's.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Not a fact. But I've met a lot of people
in life.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
I teach, I'm a therapist, I do a lot of
different things, and I meet a lot of different people
and they don't have what you have. They don't they don't,
so they're trying to get what you have. Because think
about it, and this is for a lot of listeners,
what you shared earlier related to what you could have done,
you know, go to school, get the degree, get married,

(11:21):
have kids, blah blah blah blah blah. You didn't do
any of that. You decided I'm going to Boston. I'm
trying to find being. We're being fig nobody's doing that, Amy,
nobody is doing that. I need you to know that
nobody did that. I watched the movie too. I didn't
go find nobody. I just watched a movie. So you
are living life, in my opinion, exceptionally because you're living

(11:46):
life on your own terms. That's not the norm. So
how did you develop this identity of I'm going to
do what I choose? Also, you mentioned your sister in La.
You can talk about that too, because it sounds like
both of you don't mind living your best life.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Yeah, yeah, isn't that funny? I know. I guess maybe
our our parents did always teach us we could do
whatever we wanted to do. I think it was just
you look at I don't know if you've read that book,
The Five People You Meet in Heaven, but I feel
like there were people that said one sentence to me
and it helped, you know, kind of change my path forever.
And an example would be my sister moved out here.
She was living in you know, on Hollywood. I remember

(12:24):
coming to visit, and you know, Hollywood isn't as nice
as you think it is.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, you know, quick palls, quick fall, real quick. We
gotta go here, We gotta go here.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
So when we go to these different places, we're on
a we're on a journey, We're on a path. We
go to these different places, we gotta hop on off
the exit for a moment. It's a rest stop. So
we're gonna hop off at this rest stop and talk
about this moment and that moment because I feel as
though this connection let me slow down getting so excited.
This connection that you and I have now to the listeners,

(12:54):
Amy and I has never met in person, never touched
each other's skin, never breathe the same air.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
But I feel like it's it's family.

Speaker 5 (13:01):
Like whenever we do get together, it's going to be
a time, because we have a time virtually.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Anyway.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
You and I both have that lived experience of being
from the Midwest, going to Hollywood literally and then figuring
out it's nothing of what it's painted out to be.
So while we're at this rest stop, could you share
your experience of recognizing what things are versus what you
thought they were going to be.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Related to Hollywood, Oh yeah, I thought.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
My sister, you know, I see her the way. What
inspired me to go was I was literally watching the
season finale and she was the makeup artists, and I
thought I was going to get to Hollywood and it
would be just like shiny buildings and everything was clean,
and you know, it's just like this, like you're treated
like a movie star. And you know, I get there
and she's literally living in this like beat up apartment

(13:51):
super close to Hollywood Boulevard, which tends to you know,
ladies of the night. You know, I just like, that's
the cleanest. And when I get there and I'm like, man,
coming from you know, the Midwest, only seeing Hollywood on TV,
it seems like it's such a shiny place for lack
of better word, and it's anything but. And so yeah,
when I get there, I did some background work and

(14:12):
I remember just being like, man, I really want to
come here permanently. So I did like a side step
to Hollywood, went home, and then her roommate at the
time was like, well why can't you? And I was like,
why can I move to California? I mean, it costs
so much money. How am I going to get there?
And it was just one thing like why not you? Amy?
And I was like, why not me?

Speaker 5 (14:30):
Oh, bars, are y'all getting this?

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Are you getting this? Why not me?

Speaker 5 (14:35):
So to the listeners, ask yourself the same question, why
not me? Because Amy, you now serve as that old
roommate to the listeners.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, woo yes, yes, yes, that's right happened.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
That's what just happened because you asked the question and
you gave people permission to do something they want to
do fear or beliefs prevent them from doing it.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yeah, I told.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
You you was the ship. You're gonna blame me one day.
Thank you. So off the exit, back on the journey.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
So that journey with your sister, you know she's doing
all these big things, but when you got there, you recognize, like,
this is not as pretty as y'all make it to be.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
And even then you still decided.

Speaker 5 (15:27):
I could do this. I could do California. So tell
us more about that, that experience, that transition.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
So, I mean, luckily, when I came to California, I
had met somebody in Boston that was living there, And
I mean, honestly, once I got here, it wasn't glitz
and glamour. I did background work for a little bit,
got two of my three SAG vouchers, which is apparently
a big deal. You get.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Listen, I told you, Oh my god, I'm so excited.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
So Amy, you got to slow down because the listeners
and myself don't know about this world, this culture, the
sad culture, and this awar. If you could break that
down to us, to educate us about this world because
a lot of people don't know.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
Yeah, absolutely, So Basically, when you're doing background work or
extra work, these are the people that when you're watching
TV you see them like walking around in the background,
and so you can. There was an agency called Central Casting.
You can basically if you meet the parameters, like sometimes
it's like, oh, we're looking for women in ages you know,
I don't know twenty to forty to play this role.
You get picked, you go on set, and then if

(16:26):
you for instance, I was a stand in, So basically
it means when your main actor steps out, they have
a stand and come into like adjust for lighting. And
so because I was picked to be a stand in
at the show twice in a row, you get a
SAG voucher each time you're a stand in. And the
thought is what you get, well.

Speaker 5 (16:42):
Real quick sag What is said again to the listeners.
We don't know, so what is sad?

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yeah? I guess it's a unit for actors to join,
and it's a decent amount of money. But then once
you join, you get paid a little bit more because
you're part of a union, you get insurance benefits. So
it was like a big deal once you become sack
because then you just have more opportunities that you can
be doing class.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, thank you for breaking it down again. You live
this life. We don't, so we don't. We don't. We
don't know it. We don't know it. So are you
saying you're a sack actor right now?

Speaker 5 (17:12):
No?

Speaker 4 (17:12):
So I basically in a couple of months, I got
these vouchers, but then decided, you know, I don't acting
ism for me, and I believe it or not, doctor
BRANCHI I went into the most boring career insurance. Is
that crazy to pit like that?

Speaker 5 (17:27):
So you went from that from Hollywood to a flak?
Is that what you're telling you? He was really on being,
keep it on being for a long time, like you here,
went to the insurance because of his last name, it
means it's not the same. But you know, I'm trying
to say, hey, I know, listen, this might be your time,
like now this season telling you he's on the market.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Oh you're so great. Yes, Ben Duffel's inter woman throughout
my journey for sure.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
I love all of this, all this keep going. So
you went to insurance from acting, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
So crazy, And I was a clean adjuster and honestly,
I probably wouldn't do really well in the corporate world
because I feel like there's a formula that you follow
and there's a hierarchy, and you know, if you perform well,
you get a promotion.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
And because you dropped me so much real quick. So
the listeners, this is where this is why you need
your journal. Okay, get your scales journal, get your journal out.
Amy is dropping gyms, you dropping nuggets' hitting you in
the head with a honeybuon. I need y'all to take
these notes because we're going to go off on another
exit again, and this exit talks about corporate structure corporate America.

(18:33):
So if you could share that system that you developed,
because again, a lot of people don't know, and a
lot of people work corporate listening to this and still
don't know. So if you could share what you discover
from the work that you were doing to help the
listeners navigate those spaces or decide to go or leave
those spaces based off of your lived experience.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Gosh, I love that.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
So basically I just stumbled upon this role. It's called
the claims adjuster and it was through Mercury Insurance not
Affect Mercury. So, you know, you start entry level with
the college degree, and to me, it felt like with
a corporate structure, they already have a model in place,
right like they do the numbers, data stats. They have
an incredible training in place, and so they take the

(19:13):
time to really invest in your training. And then you
start the role and then it actually becomes successful. In
that role, more opportunities of growth within the organization starts
to appear. So you apply for those roles to kind
of basically my in two and a half years, I
was at three different roles that continue to climb to
make me closer to like leadership or management.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Yeah. And so you know, of course with new promotions
comes you know, more money, and it felt like that
path was already laid out for me. And remember doctor Branch,
you know, I'm that one who likes to conform right.
I don't like it. And so I did that survive
longer than I think I was marring my three year mark,
and I'm like, I don't see myself growing in this field,

(19:54):
and so I want to pivot.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
So let me ask.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
Let me ask, because now we're going to get back
on anestate. I love these exits, So.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Let me ask.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
Does this mean I'm curious because I'm noticing a pattern?
Does this mean about every three to four years you transition?

Speaker 4 (20:12):
I too, but I don't think I really realized that
until you just brought that up.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
We in the basement. Now we in the basement. So
I love the basement. Let me explain. So to my
new listeners people are just joining, I have to break
down some of the concepts that we talk about because
we speak a different language on this podcast. But anybody
who listens to anybody that's connected, they know the language.
It's a culture, it's a community. So if you hear
somebody say you got hit in the head with the honey,

(20:39):
but you know where it came from because nobody's saying that.
So the basement, same deal. If you hear that, you
know where it came from. So I look at us
as people as human beings. As a house, everyone has
a house. It's a house. I don't care if you're
a twin, you still got a different house. It's designed
differently inside and outside. And there's three major layer boats
to every house. Number one top level is the attic.

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The attic is nice, it's comfortable, it's beautiful. You got
bosky out on the wall, picasso. You got a wine bar.
It's beautiful, it's plush, California king size bed, two of
them put together, and it's just you, I mean comfort, right.
And then the second floor, second level, you got the
living room. Living room nice, not as nice as an attic,
but it's nice. You on the couch, kickback, shoes off,

(21:22):
socks off, rubbing them toes together, watching your favorite TV
show or a movie. And then you have the basement.
The basement is usually pad locked. It's locked up because
we don't spend a lot of time in the basement.
And the basement is dark, it's musty, it's sweaty, it's stinky.
We don't go down there. Spiderwebs its boxes, it's dust.
We don't spend a lot of time in the basement.
Now that's the figurative idea literal. We can connect the

(21:44):
dots as well, but let's go to the heart. And
the heart is in the basement. That's the emotion, that's
the trauma, that's the drama, that's the things that we
don't know about that's been sitting hidden in plain sight.
The living room is your present, it's how we live
our most organic and authentic space. And then the attic
is your head. That's why it's so comfortable because you

(22:04):
spend so much time there. So what you didn't know
that I saw was the basement every four years. The
reason I'm able to see it because I'm the same way.
I've never worked a job over three years until.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Never.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
Ah, true story three to four years is mine as well.
That's why I saw it for you because mine is
the same thing. Again, I told you we family. So
this trajectory of every three to four years, my belief is,
is because we get bored or we outgrow people, places
and things. So, now that you got some context to

(22:42):
your truth, because I'm just picking up without what you're
putting down, this transition every three to four years, if
you could share more with us about that and what
was it like for you, because this is my assumption.
I don't know, but what was it like for you
to have these experiences and then three to four years
it's a totally different experience.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Yeah, wow, Yeah, you were spot on. I look at
it as you said, like, I just there's no more
growth in this. Like I felt sad to me, like
I was helping people who had been in car accidents,
like they much needed help. But it didn't fill my cup.
I didn't feel energized by it because I'm an impact
so I felt grained by that. And so I'm like,
I want to be in a role where I can

(23:21):
be creative and I can be around energies. And so
of course I pivoted to marketing and marketing, especially in
Los Angeles, we had, you know, Butterfinger was our main account,
and so I'm like on, you know, back to full circle.
I'm on like sets, like doing like digital campaigns with
like you know, Lufa Rigno and Eric Strata, you know,
and so we it felt like it was fun and
exciting to me. And so that's what that is. When

(23:43):
I feel like I'm at my I shine right, I'm
at my true authentic self.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
So the creative spaces that give you a chance to
just be fluid and flexible and free. Okay, yeah, I
see so you said something else again. We just were
on a journey now can take an exit. We just
don't put it all together, okay, because we ain't got
time to get off, so we we're just gonna keep going.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
You mentioned being an EmPATH. Yeah, what the hell? Yeah?
What is that?

Speaker 5 (24:12):
And I'm gonna be ignorant for this, right, What is
an impath? And you said it because you know who
you are, and I just discovered being an impath about
three four years ago. Yeah, though, if you could share
with me, share with the listeners, what does that mean?

Speaker 2 (24:27):
What does that look like? What does it mean to
be an impath?

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Yeah? Great question. You're right. I sometimes I just you're right.
It's an impath means you can feel other energies, and
so I typically and I'm not quite sure if this
is a NAT or if this has learned too, but yeah,
I basically I can go into a room and I
can or I can sense if somebody's already been in
an argument and I see them, I can sense ooh,

(24:51):
something's upsetting this person, or it's like for better or
for worse. I can feel the energy of any room,
any person. And so what I try and I have
to it's called like building armor to protect yourself sometime
with that energy because you'll go to take it on
and you know, this is not my energy, this is
somebody else's energy. I need to build a shield to

(25:12):
protect myself.

Speaker 5 (25:13):
So how did you discover this about yourself? And now
like you it sounds like you're mastering living life as
an impath. How did you discover it and how did
you get to this level of mastery?

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Yeah? Great question. So, doctor Branch, this is where we're
going to pivot. But it's the journey that built me.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Do you want to go there? What? I live in
the basement? What are we talk What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (25:37):
Let's go Okay, we're going to get there anyway. But ultimately,
I truly believe everybody is here to learn a lesson,
right could be one lesson, multiple lessons my kind of
and it's through a struggle that you learn this lesson.
And so mine was through fertility. My husband and I
really wanted to have a family, and you know, especially
being from the West, we already talked about it felt

(25:58):
like that was the place book of life. And if
it's one guarantee if you followed this playbook, you will,
you know, have your dreams come true. And so about
a year, a few years and to be married and
trying it wasn't working. And so because it's one thing
that you feel is guaranteed, you start to question everything
one being God right, you know how, I like, it's
all full circle. I'm like, how could God, knowing how

(26:21):
important this is to me, not let this happen. And
so then you start to tap into other things that
start to bring meaning and the connectivity of the universe,
and you start to tap into other things like energies.
And so that's when I started to realize I started
to dissect myself and why I respond certain ways, why
I feel certain ways, And so that's how I came
about really understanding who I am, what makes me tick,

(26:44):
and also just kind of my approach in life.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
Yeah, so thank you for your authenticity. I love when
we're in the basement because that's how we grow. Understand
growth happens in the basement. So we can be in
that basement intentionally, like we chose to walk down these steps,
take that pad lock off, and sometimes we just end
up being there because life situations happen. I'm curious to know, like,
did you have a coach, a shaman, did you have

(27:07):
a teacher, oh, who taught you about this life as
an impath?

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Or was it just all self discovery?

Speaker 4 (27:13):
Yeah? Great question, And I honestly had a lot through
the journey. I went to shaman's in Arizona. I went
to healer's Argentina. I even had like, you know, somebody
who cracked up in cold cases from a psychic. She
was a psychic. I had to open up cold cases. Yeah,
I did cream the leading yoga, Like I think it's

(27:34):
all these like you know, trying to make sound baths,
healing circles, like trying to make something that doesn't make sense.
And so it wasn't like one thing that's like, oh
because of this, you're an impath. I remember going to
the shaman in Arizona. He's the one that taught me
I need to put literally physical armor on to protect
myself from energies when I like go to concerts and
when I go to the mall, you know, it's like

(27:55):
and so I've learned skills on how to kind of
you know, adjust, But I love being an impath. Back
to branch. I love it because my intuition is so
strong because I'm able to read those energies and feel situations.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
You know what's wow, Oh my godness, this is so wild.
I'm an impath as well. Yeah, it's official. It's official.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Again. We family, right.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
So I didn't know I was an impath my whole
life until my wife allowed me to know that, Like,
you know your impath right, And I'm like, what's that?
I didn't eat nothing bad as that disease?

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Like I didn't.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
I didn't know, like my growing an extra arm. I
didn't know what an impath was. I'm thinking it's a
trail in the forest. I just didn't know, Okay, I
didn't know. So once she told me about it, she said, yeah,
you feel and absorbed energy. And I said, yeah, how
did you know? And she's like, well, I mean we
are together, we are married.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
I see it.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
And she said, I'm an impath as well, but a
different type, because I didn't know there were different types
of impaths. So her connection is to animals, so she
connects really really well with animals, so she can just
see a lot of different things will relate to animals,
and it just doesn't make any sense to me, but
mind relates to people. So we have two different worlds,

(29:09):
but we're both connected at being impath because every empare,
every impath has a different connection or line.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Of what they feel what they absorb.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
Because there are some that feel pain, there are some
that feels that energy and that like sickness where somebody
may be sick in their house and they end up
being sick, and that's that absorbing that energy. So when
I discovered that was the plant, that was the seed
planet for me from me and once she told me,
then I started to look into it myself. So for

(29:38):
the listeners, many of you may be an EmPATH and
don't even know at all. So the first thing that
I came across was number one. I was looking for
impaths of people of color, black impaths. Didn't find any
from my research, which means I'm probably the person that's
going to create that. But I'm speaking life into existence
in real time. So I did connect with a woman,
white woman, Judith Orloff, doctor Judith Orloff. She's an impath specialist.

(30:01):
She has an impath assessment. So I took the assessment
full blown impath and I'm like, oh my god this
whole time. And then she has a book about survivor
for Survivor's Guide to Being an Impath, where she talks
about saying thing the armor protecting yourself, that ain't your business,
all of that. So I learned skills from reading this
book and diving into it. But I didn't know for

(30:22):
thirty plus years that I had this gift and this ability.
And now I feel like I'm glad this conversation came up.
I feel like there's so many of us who are
impaths and have no idea it exists, the term, or
anything about it. And that's why I'm saying you're at
a level of mastery because not only do you know
you know you, you know what works for you, you know

(30:42):
what doesn't, You know what you need, and you allowed
yourself to discover different people, places and things to figure
amy out. And to the listeners, I challenge you to
do the same thing. Sometimes you have to be willing
to step outside your comfort zone to find what works
for you because a lot of things that we do
don't work.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
We just don't know who all day all day.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
So if you are an impath, think you might be
I'm gonna give Judith or Law a shout out and
you can be on the show Judith whenever you're ready.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I'm ready for you.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
So so go online, google it Judith or impath assessment.
Take the assessment and see where you are. Once you
find out where you are, ooh, this is good. When
you find out where you are, you find out what
you need. When you discover who you are, you discover
what you need.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
I'm gonna leave that on that. I'm gonna leave that
right there.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
Okay, so let's get back to it. So this it
sounds like a holistic journey with the sound bath and
the yoga and this spirit of spiritual journey as well.
And I am curious, you know, with this holistic journey again,
it's so different from religion. It's a spiritual journey. And

(31:58):
you mentioned your background with religion and then you transition
or pivoted to spiritual. So how do you navigate and
manage those worlds? Because for a lot of people's Jesus
or nothing, it's God or bus, it's whatever higher power
or nothing at all. Yeah, And what I've discovered, and
it sounds like you discovered the same thing.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
You can have both you can. You can manage both.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
You can, you can just you can do whatever you want.
So how do you navigate? How do you manage those worlds?
And even being here with that experience, that lived experience
you had, that you're still here, you still pushing, you
haven't given up.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Yeah, yeah, no, I mean great question. I think because
the Catholic peace was so part of like my fundamental upbringing. Right,
It wasn't like I chose, it was just it is.
And so I think because you know, there's a couple
of things. A with the fertility stuff, and then B
I was with my dad when he passed, and my
dad loved Jesus like best friends. They literally are hanging

(32:54):
out dancing, you know, so.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
He got he had backstage patches on Earth that's all.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Oh absolutely, he is at church, loudest one thing with you,
like my dad. Yeah, that's And so I think when
my dad passed is pretty traumatic, and I started to question,
like if God knows how much my dad loved him
and let him die that way, then maybe there's another thing,
you know, maybe I need to think beyond just religion
like that. That's me in super bowlder ball. I don't

(33:21):
even think any of it.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
I love it. Thank you, Thank you for sharing that
with us.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Absolutely, you are.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
A gym, Amy, you are a gym. Thank you so
much for that. So we're gonna pivot. We're back on
the journey. We're gonna pivot a bit because we want
to get into some rapid fire questions as we get
ready to close out, because this is so much, it's
so intense.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
I'm having you back.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
This is just the first season. I got your first season.
I have you back the second season it's already happening.
So because you don't know how you impact people by
sharing your truth, sharing your story, and before we transition,
I want to put a ball on where we wereppreciate
you for being vulnerable. I appreciate you for trusting me
in this process because this has been a work in

(34:05):
the making for at least six months and now we're
here and now you're sharing yourself with us, with me,
and I value that and I appreciate and I respect
it because oftentimes we're not able to do that, or
we choose not to. So not only are you able,
you choose to do it, and that means the world
to me.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
So thank you.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
Yeah, absolutely, thank you.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
So as we pivot. I'm curious. I'm so curious.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
This is my hunger ground, hunger for knowledge, and the
knowledge is twofold. One question, at all these years, from Boston,
Saint Louis to Cali to all over, what would you say,
in all the way to where you are now, who
you are now?

Speaker 2 (34:48):
What would you say? Have you learned about people? And
what have you learned about yourself?

Speaker 4 (34:52):
Yeah? Great question. I think what I learned about people
was people will give advice based on their own experiences,
and I think.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, that's a bar.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
That's a bar. Listen, y'all just got hit in here
with Honeymoon again. Could you break that down a little bit?

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (35:10):
Absolutely, And I learned this And I feel like you
learned these lessons for experiences obviously. And so I was
engaged prior to marry my husband and every and I
knew he wasn't the person I was supposed to be
with forever.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
But I'm sorry, I'm sorry to interrupt you. Amy.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
You don't know your greatness because the things that you're
sharing of what you went through, someone is in it
right now, someone is about to marry someone they know
right now.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
This ain't it.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
But they're doing it anyway because of culture, community, society
and everything else. And you're talking about I was that person,
but I overcame it.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
That's a big deal. Amy. And you're married now.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
And still from the Mary ben Affleck Like, come on,
do y'all see this. Make sure your husband don't listen
till after you get married.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
So he down for you?

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Good?

Speaker 5 (36:00):
Yeah, tell him, Hey, you better watch yourself because my
boy is single again. But anyway, anyway, Yeah, you say
it because you've lived it. That's why you can say it.
There's people currently living it or preparing to live it
what you've already went through. So I wanted to take
a moment because I have to highlight the things that

(36:23):
we don't pay attention to because we've gone through it.
That was a long time ago, that that was the
old version of Amy. You're a different version now, you're
a different person now, but that still happened, and that's
what made you who you are. These experiences that we have,
it's what propels us or haunts us, because that's what
the old version, the old version of us dies. Right,

(36:44):
that person is dead and the only person that's left
is the ghost. And that ghost is either gonna haunt
you or propel you. And it sounds like that experience
you have propelled you to even consider doing it again.
And now you're happily married and finna get married again.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
But right that is growth.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
That is growth, And I wanted to take a moment
on that because you had to become somebody else to
get out of that when you recognize it.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Didn't work for you. Yeah, and that is to be celebrated.
Hats off with it. Huh, you could have money, thank.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
You and I and I love that you brought up
somebody else could be going through this right now, because
what I want to share is not one person supported
me in that decision. Everybody told me amy relationships are
about memories, you know, challenges, struggles, all my family, all
my friends, they all we were dating for seven years,
and like, not one person, it felt in my mind
that was supportive of me kind of transitioning, you know,

(37:43):
out of the relationship. And I think my thought was
I would rather be alone the rest of my life
than get married to this person. And so I was like,
it doesn't matter what anybody's telling me, because at the
end of the day, I'm the one that's living this life.
But I just made the decision and it was the
best decision I ever made because I found my husband
who was exactly and so much more than I thought
could exist in this world.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
And love me. That's beautiful. Shout out to your husband.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
Oh man, that's so beautiful.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
That's so beautiful. And what did you learn about yourself?

Speaker 5 (38:11):
So that's about people, and I love that that thought
because a lot of people, and this again for the listeners,
a lot of people before I got my pad, I
asked people about a pad, and most of the negative
things people said about a PhD came from people that
didn't have one. So to the listeners, want to get
your pahd. Stop talking to people that ain't got one.
The facts so you learn love it facts, you have facts.

(38:37):
So what did you learn about you? I love what
you shared about people? What did you learn about you?
Because I'm hearing lessons of resilience. I'm hearing a lot
of resilience in growth and willingness to change. What did
you learn about you from all of this?

Speaker 4 (38:50):
I think, just better my better on yourself. Like I
feel like what like there were times, especially in the
fertility journey, that you kind of go in a very
dark place because you don't understand by and so I
think that is the journey that broke me, But it's
also the journey that built me, because to see who
I am on this side feels like a strong, capable,
anything's possible woman, because I know I went through this

(39:13):
journey and made it out on the other side better
than I ever could have expected.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Look at that. So listen for y'all.

Speaker 5 (39:19):
In that horrible ass relationship, horrible marriage, get out of it.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
So find your way out.

Speaker 5 (39:27):
Now Again, this this podcast is not substitute therapy.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
It does not substitute couples counseling. It doesn't substitute real
clinical work.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
Yes, I'm a I'm a clinician. I'm a therapist, but
I'm not your therapist unless I'm in. Unless i am,
and even if I am, I can't confirm nor deny.
So get you a therapist, work with someone. Do not
just divorce your husband and say doctor brands tell me
I can do this. Don't do that because I Am
not going to vouch for you and they not gonna
find me. So next question, I love the question. I'm
curious about hero. Hero she rose alive?

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Or dead? Who is or what your hero.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Ooh man, I love that. I feel like I have
a few different heroes, but I think we'll go with
my dad. He had passed and it was one of
those things where my dad had some health issues before
I was even born. So he had a stroke and
was paralyzed on his left side and so he like
walked with a limp and that was just my norm.
And now looking back, how much adversity he had to
overcome because of he didn't have any function being on

(40:25):
his left side, and so he kind of compensated it
by being the funniest person I ever knew, because he
was always the one everybody was looking at, but everybody
in the room knew him because he had a nickname
for everybody. He was the funniest guy. He made everybody laugh.
And so I think just always having that level of like,
you know, you just got to make you know the
best of the situation, because he was given kind of

(40:46):
a very tough hand to cards and he dealt with
it the best that he could and it was through humor.
And so to this day, he's the funniest person I've
ever met.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
Powerful I love it. Thank you, Amy, Thank you for
sharing you with us, like real talk. Thank you so
much for that. I'm curious to know. Is there a word, phrase, memory,
or moment that has stuck with you personally or professionally
you want to share with the listeners.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
Yeah, oh, can I do another story?

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Oh oh, day you know a lot of basement let's
get it, okay.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
So this is the lesson I learned, and I learned
it or really and I do want to share it
with everyone, and a lot of you may already know this.
So I played soccer, you know, basically from the time
I was like five, and so I got to freshman
year and I our team was horrible. It was horrible,
but the varsity, to you was incredible and they were
going to state. They went to state every year. And

(41:33):
so sophomore year tryouts, I had the opportunity to try
out for varsity and I was so intimidated. So I
went to my coach and I was like, Coach, I'm like,
can I please stay on the JV team? Even though
we're losing every game? And even though I was captain
and MVP at that point, I didn't push myself or
challenge myself to be with the people that I could
learn most from. So my lesson in life is never

(41:55):
settle and stay. Not that I was better than them,
but a little bit more skilled than the people on JV.
Always push yourself to be in a room with people
that are smarter, wiser, more experienced, because those are the
people that you can learn from.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
I love it dropping gems hitting you in the head
with a honeybud. Next question, what's an interesting fact about
yourself or something about you that people wouldn't believe?

Speaker 4 (42:18):
Okay, I think this thumb right here, So this is
my left thumb. It's famous. In two thousand and eight,
there was an e reader that launched and I was
a thumb model. So this interesting fact. But a lot
of people though my left thumb is famous.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Your left thumb is famous. This is good. This is
so good. This is so good. Listen listeners.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
Right now, Amy and myself have a Chiquita banana or
dole sticker on our forehead because we are organic.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
That is the most beautiful thing ever.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
Your thumb is famous, Like your thumb is a sag artist,
Like it's a sag actor.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Like really you still getting checks from your thumb?

Speaker 5 (42:56):
Okay, so great, Okay, last thing, last thing, and this
is your opportunity to give something to the listeners. I
call it life work. Yeah, well, life work is a
little different, well a lot different from homework. Homework you
take it home, you do it, you turn it in,
nothing happens, you never remember it. Life work, you take

(43:16):
it home, you do it. Your life will change. So amy,
if you could share something with the listeners related to
a keepsake life work, something that they can do, Now,
what would that be?

Speaker 4 (43:27):
Yeah? Oh my gosh. I feel like the one thing
that comes to mind, and it's mainly inspired by my
current role is finding your zone of genius. And so
what that is is it's basically things that you wake
up and you can't wait to do in the morning.
And I think the goal is to really write out
a list of things on a piece of paper that
energize you and keep your cup full. Because the hope
is if a majority of your day is filled with

(43:47):
things that are in your zone a genius, it gives
you energy to do the things that maybe don't keep
your cup full. And as you start lift your vibration
and lift your energy, that's when you start to attract
more incredible things. So my words of wisdom is to
find things that are fall within your zone of genius,
because that'll raise your energy and your vibration to attract
even more greatness.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Done done ooh hashtag.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Bacs love the circle backs.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
I love always always.

Speaker 5 (44:15):
So, as we get ready to close out for the listeners,
you have attracted a lot of people because of your energy.
That's how you and I got together, That's how we
friends for life. You can't do nothing about it. You
stuck with me forever. So and I'm gonna be at
the other wedding too, me and your current husband.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Okay, I'm gonna stop. I can't help it. I'm silly,
like I've been this way my whole life. I'm just
hearing it what you are.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
So, if people want to connect with you, how can
they get in touch with you?

Speaker 4 (44:44):
Yeah? A great question. I'm happy to share. My email
address is Amy J. Rosa at gmail dot com. You're
more than welcome to follow me on Instagram. It's multipuciano.
I'm a huge wine lover and I love multipuo puppies. Yeah,
but please feel free to reach out. Happy to continue
the conversation. I meet up for coffee too.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Wine and puppies.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
Oh my goodness, there are so many levels. There's so
many layers to all of us, but a lot of
times we don't get to see them because we don't
talk about them. And I really appreciate you hopping on
the podcast being a guest to talk about them, and
what you shared to me and to many of the
listeners is life changing information if you're paying attention because

(45:25):
you dropped a lot of beread crumbs, and bread crumbs
are all around us all the time, we just don't
see them. But when I become aware, I begin seeing
things that's been hidden in plain sight. Again that basement.
So the more time I spend in the basement, allow
myself to be in the basement, the more I'll see
the bread crumbs in the living room.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Bars.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
So if I start picking up those bread crumbs, eventually
I'm get a loaf. And if I keep picking and
eating and picking up these loaves, I'm gonna end up
sleeping in a Panera bread that's the bread factory, because
they don't run out.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
That's where I live at.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
But I was also told from a friend that you
can go even further than Panera, because he saw himself
in Paris. What a bag at as big as the
Eiffel Tower. That is growth that's moving to a different level.
And the deeper I go in my basement, the higher
I go, and the higher I go, the more my.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Perspective shifts or changes.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
So, Amy, what you're sharing is a perspective that a
lot of people didn't even know existed. You are phenomenal,
You are this shit. I'm telling you what I know,
not what I heard, and I greatly appreciate you for
taking a risk and deciding I don't know what the
hell gonna happen, but I trust Jason enough.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
I'm gonna do what I do.

Speaker 5 (46:43):
And you have been a blessing to me and everybody listening,
and I thank.

Speaker 4 (46:47):
You, yeah, thank you so much for creating a space
to just be one hundred percent comfortable and being myself without.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
A doubt, without a doubt.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
So you heard it here first. This is the first
She's coming back season two. When you heard it here first,
Amy rosa a gem, a jewel, an EmPATH. And now
you all have access if you decide to pick up
the bread crumb. She shared a contact information that's a
bread crumb Boom, Honeybourne. So This concludes our episode of

(47:18):
the Three Para Levels podcast with your hosts doctor Jason Branch,
where we discover who we were and create distance from
that person because that person is dead. Who you once
were is now the walking dead. It's a zombie and
going in any direction that you allow that person to go.
The current you is where you are right now in
the living room with them shoes and socks off, rubbing
them toes together. Who you're trying to become is a

(47:40):
better version of you that's outside the house knocking on
the door waiting for you to let them in. Because
once that better version of you comes in, a lot
of things leave your house. So if this episode, if
this show has been a blessing to you, if you
got something from it, don't keep it to yourself, share it,
give it away. My hope is that we can directly

(48:01):
and indirectly impact three million people. That's the goal. That's
my goal, which is our goal. If you're part of this,
I'm creating. I'm creating a community and a culture. We
speak a different language, and that language is love. Thank
you for listening. I have a great game.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Peace,
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